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=== Beineri has committed some UI fixes to knetworkconfig...
=== Beineri also made a patch against Konserve to fix the worst UI problems - now whom to send? :-)
Beinerianyway, http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/konserve.diff.bz209:40
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sabdflBeineri: Riddell would be the best person to send them to10:13
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haggaiBeineri: great!  Can you attach the patch to a bug report?10:41
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Beinerihttp://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050321#new11:19
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Beineri"* Build openoffice.org-kde again." :-)11:45
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dholbachhi11:59
dholbachi'm trying to figure out, why kdelibs4-dev on ia64 pulls in  -lXinerama_pic12:00
dholbachcan anyone help me with it?12:00
dholbachthis is the problematic case:   http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/l/lineak-xosdplugin/1:0.8.3-1/lineak-xosdplugin_1:0.8.3-1_20050321-0911-ia64-failed12:00
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dholbachit's about "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXinerama_pic"12:01
haggaidholbach: there's a debian patch in kdelibs that we have to pull out for kubuntu12:01
haggaidholbach: did you already trace it to kdelibs4-dev or is it a guess?12:02
dholbachhaggai: mkedwards did12:02
haggaiis that a nick?12:03
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dholbachhaggai: yes... he's in here as well12:03
dholbachhaggai: what do i have to do make it work on ia64?12:03
mkedwardsDoes ia64 need -fPIC?12:06
mkedwardsdholbach: that "Disable Xinerama_pic hack" change needs to be backported to Ubuntu's qt-x11-free.12:15
dholbachmkedwards: we're discussing it in the right channel, but i'm not the one who could fix it :-)12:17
haggaidholbach: because of technical questions or upload rights?12:25
dholbachboth12:26
haggai:)12:26
dholbach:-)12:26
dholbachand i would never imagine to upload qt :-)12:26
dholbachand be whipped around the channels by you folks :-)12:26
haggaioooh yesss verwy dangerous here... here be dragons...12:27
haggai(shh don't tell anyone they're cute)12:27
dholbachyeah... ;-)12:27
haggaiso the problem is in qt itself?12:28
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=== dholbach cannot comment on that
mkedwardshaggai: need to diff debian 3:3.2.3-3 against 3:3.2.3-212:30
haggaimkedwards: thanks12:31
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ttfQerub: can you tell me why gtk2-engines-gtk-qt is not in main?03:06
Qerubttf: i'm the debian package maintainer of it, nothing more.03:10
Qerubttf: ask amu or Riddell...03:10
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ttfQerub: k - thanks03:23
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dholbachsee you later03:58
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haggaiRiddell / amu: HoaryPreviewKnownProblems:  Has anything been fixed or are all these problems still open?  How about we open bug reports for them and add the bugno next to each item in the list?09:35
haggaittf can file the bugs for us09:35
haggaiI think otherwise we'll loose track of what still needs doing09:35
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Burgundaviais there a kde equiv to gksu?09:36
Riddellhaggai: nothing has been fixed although some arn't real problems and some arn't our problem and so forth, but good idea to put them into bugzilla09:37
amuhaggai: working on them, just "fixed" the imap problems in kdepim 09:38
amuhaggai: Riddell isnt it possible to to find a way to communicate in a better way?  09:39
Riddellwe need an action plan09:40
apokryphosBurgundavia: you should be asking in #kubuntu :). kdesu.09:40
Burgundaviaapokryphos: I am looking to change the deps on qtparted right now09:41
amuex. i looked into python-kde, and ask ogra about some help, he told me you ( jr ) still working on it 09:41
Riddellamu: I'm not activly working on it, it's on my todo list but I'd be happy if someone else did it first09:41
Burgundaviaapokryphos: I am rebuilding as the current one is uninstallable, and am looking at fixing things09:41
amuRiddell: haggai isnt it possible we use bugzilla for it? 09:42
Burgundaviaapokryphos: does it do kdesudo?09:43
Riddellamu: for all our to do things?  and assign each entry to whoever it doing it?09:43
BeineriShouldn't there be a openoffice.org-kde_1.1.3-7.8ubuntu1_i386.deb next to the gtk one now? :-|09:43
amuRiddell: yep09:44
haggaiamu: tht's what I meant by 'How about we open bug reports for them'09:44
haggaiBeineri: it needed changes to the package09:44
amuRiddell: haggai i force to users on #kubuntu to report their probs to bugzilla 09:44
Beinerihaggai: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hoary-changes/2005-March/003873.html says "Build openoffice.org-kde again"09:45
apokryphos(amu: do you prefer that?)09:45
Beinerihaggai: and there was a *-successful build log. 09:45
amu21:28 < billytwowilly> any idea when  python-kde3 will be updated?09:45
haggaiBeineri: ah right, in that case it needs elmo love09:46
amuapokryphos: sorry? 09:46
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apokryphosamu: do you prefer that we report our woes on bugzilla?09:46
apokryphos(essentially dependency issues/broken-packages etc.)09:47
amuapokryphos: yes, it's easier to follow, who's working on it, you see the status about an bug ... 09:48
haggaiamu: if you actually work on a bug then accept it.  I'll reassign to myself if I start on one09:49
apokryphosAlright; I'll put one in about kde-devel; I see you're already working on the PyKDE one...09:49
haggaittf: can you make issues for KubuntuPreviewKnownProblems items please?09:49
haggaiuh, bugs.  They're issues on OOo :)09:49
amuapokryphos: yep, i fixed the depends and run a testbuild, got some error's and ask agra for help, than he told me someone other was working before on it. That's very frustationg and wasted time. 09:52
apokryphosamu: sorry to hear that :(. It's down to libkcal2 as far as I can see. So, what do you reckon, no bug report?09:53
amuapokryphos: no a bugreport is fine, it doesnt matter about what, better 1 useless bugreport as some 1h lost time09:56
Riddellamu, haggai: for your information my current to do list is topped with putting the website in a baz repository so that other people can look after it, then sorting out the kde 3.4 modules that arn't done yet then all the other things10:00
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haggaiRiddell: great thanks.10:42
mdzRiddell: are you able to migrate it to the server we provided as well?10:42
Riddellmdz: did that last week10:44
mdzRiddell: oh, good10:44
mdzand k.ubuntu.com is live as well, I see10:45
Riddellmeans I didn't get to test my servers against a slashdotting, but on the other hand it also means kubuntu didn't make me go over a monthly bandwidth quota again10:45
Riddellno movement on kubuntu.org yet10:46
mdzI have pinged10:46
BeineriRiddell: no slashdotting? there was a slashdot story10:47
mdzBeineri: he moved the site first10:47
ttfhaggai: yup - working on it10:48
RiddellBeineri: slashdot story was after I moved the website from my server to ubuntu server10:48
mdzwhen would be a good day to hold a Kubuntu development meeting?10:51
Riddellmdz: covering what?10:51
mdzamu,Riddell,haggai: ?10:51
haggaiyup10:51
mdzRiddell: status review, milestones for the remainder of the release cycle10:51
amuyep?10:52
mdzsometime this week10:52
mdztuesday is a CC meeting, thursday I have another meeting10:52
mdzwednesday or friday?10:53
amulet's have Thu. a milestone-meeting?  10:53
haggaiI can't do Friday10:53
Riddellwednesday is good for me (as indeed is any day other than tomorrow)10:53
amuwed. is also fine for me10:54
haggaiwed is ok too10:55
Riddellnow we just need a time :)10:55
mdzanytime after about 1700 UTC is good for me10:56
Riddellhow about 17:00 GMT?10:57
haggaiat 1700 I have people coming to view our house.  My preference would be sometime between 19-2200, but I can make from 1730 if that fits better with everyone else10:59
RiddellI have no preference11:02
mdz1900 is fine11:03
mdzamu?11:03
amuack, doesnt matter for which time or date, i'm allways on ;)11:04
haggaittf: can you be around then too?11:08
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ttfyup - there11:14
mdzok, 1900 UTC, Wednesday 23 March11:31
mdzsee you there11:31
mdzhaggai: selling your house?11:31
haggaimdz: I wish :-/  Our landlord is selling our house :(11:36
haggaimdz: we wanted to stay here until we found somewhere to buy, but now we have to move in mid April11:36
mdzugh11:37
Riddellhaggai: I have a room free in my (rented) house, move in with us11:37
haggaimdz: thanksfully its been put a week back so it won't interfere too much with the kubuntu release11:37

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