=== Glin|Jol [~bobo@66-108-244-133.nyc.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:02] Not quire sure what you mean by that; it's reasonably new to me, but I think I understand what it does... not sure on its actual usage, though. Help/man seem to conflict. [12:04] thx [12:07] <_P_> apokryphos: do you know when kdeaddons is added to kubuntu? [12:07] _P_: nope; though, it has been suggested in the article on the Wiki. [12:08] <_P_> i can't install because dependecies problem with some konq [12:08] it is an official package released with KDE, so hopefully... soon. [12:08] <_P_> ah === tudoaver [~azuzak@201009179241.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === ikama [~ikama@p5081B8F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === delltony [~delltony@c-24-99-11-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:43] i have a question for some reason when i close my laptop and then come back to it later its as if x dies or something. all i get is a black screen with a flashing cursor in the upper left corner. I can't launch a virtual shell or anything to see whats going on? any idea. I believe its something with power management but i don't know how to resolve it. If its hibernation id personally rather get rid of that crap. all if anything i [12:43] would like is to simply turn off the monitor nothing more. === thoreauputic [~debianarc@wolax6-015.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:48] delltony: try pressing ctrl+alt+f7 === thoreauputic [~debianarc@wolax6-015.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === dreamwave [~dreamwave@69-163-64-118.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:50] delltony: it is probably something like sleep/standby mode... [12:50] delltony: try switching VTs first to a console one and then back, that often resets things. [12:50] delltony: as 'psn' suggests 50% of the way. === markus- [~markus@pD9535C74.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu [] [01:00] aww ok didn't do the atl f7 [01:00] i was doing f1 and f2 [01:00] trying to get a shell to see what was causing it to hang [01:00] will try aft f7 again with the ctrl of course [01:01] when it happens thanks [01:01] is there anyway to turn off that sleep standby im using 3.4 and hoary preview === buga is now known as buga-away === LeeJunFan [~junfan@64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu === apokryphos is now known as apokaway === billytwowilly is now known as bung === bung is now known as billytwowilly === P229|away is now known as P229 === berli [~rasch@user-10lf8h9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === madstop [~damstop@24-90-94-112.nyc.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:29] http://members.shaw.ca/quilley/snapshot2.png [02:29] my kubuntu desktop in all its glory! [02:32] <|QuaD-> beautiful [02:34] thanks. [02:34] KDE is finally working close to how I want it to work;) === billytwowilly is excited [02:34] <|QuaD-> haha === Blissex [~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has left #KUbuntu ["Konversation] === psoulocybe [~psoulocyb@adsl-065-007-128-249.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.59.114] has joined #kubuntu === encKe` [~encKe`@ppp-70-249-172-43.dsl.mdldtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === markc [~markc@CPE-203-45-212-98.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [03:32] howdy, what might the default root passowrd be ? [03:34] for the livecds, that is [03:37] can anyone point me to where I might find out what the default root password is for the livecds ? ... I'm kinda stuck and on a borrowed machine to fet to this channel for help [03:39] markc: try sudo? === Sparhawk_ [~sparhawk@c-24-14-121-93.client.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === mainer1 [~mainer3@bb-205-209-66-111.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:43] is kde 3.4 a little buggy?,anyone/ === mainer1 [~mainer3@bb-205-209-66-111.gwi.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:48] berli> thanks, meaning there is no default root password ? I'm used to su - ing to root and continue working that way [03:49] markc: i'm new to ubuntu, but from what I can tell the only way to gain root priv's is via sudo. the installation doesn't even ask for a root p [03:49] pw === Roey [~Roey@pcp04370251pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:49] calc: you're here I see [03:49] ok, I suppose I can use sudo to change the root pw then... doh, I should have thought of that [03:49] sssh ;) [03:49] markc: didnt' work for me [03:49] <|QuaD-> i just apt-get remove kdelibs4 [03:49] nothing to see here move along ;) [03:50] are there any docs anywhere on how to remaster kubuntu, or at least unbuntu ? [03:50] markc: for me, the root password was already set to soemthing, and I didn't know what it was -- so I solved it by rebooting to the livecd, chroot'ing and doing passwd root to change the password. [03:50] <|QuaD-> whoooooa calc is here :) [03:51] the legendary calc [03:51] calc: you have fans [03:51] heh === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.84] has joined #kubuntu [03:51] Roey> so is the CD just a normal uncompressed isso9660 filesystem ? [03:51] markc: it's the livecd that you boot off of [03:52] Roey> sorry, I don't understand "rebooting to the livecd"... how is that different to just booting up on it normally ? [03:53] Roey> and how would you permenently change the root password when running it as a livecd ? [03:54] Roey> sorry to ask you all these questions :-) === vordul [~vordul@Toronto-HSE-ppp3915474.sympatico.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:54] markc: oh it's all fun [03:54] markc: so Ubuntu/Kubuntu has this "livecd" [03:54] you put it in, and you boot to linux [03:55] it runs off the CD (everything there is compressed, and it is uncompressed into memory behind the scenes for you) [03:56] Roey> iyes, I know all that, already done it, but I'm used to Knoppix and their compressed filesystem... I don't understand what you actually did to change the root password... I presume, so that it was still changed when you ran the livecd ? [03:56] OH [03:56] ok [03:56] at the prompt: [03:57] mount /dev/hdX /mnt/hdX # where hdX is your disk === thoreauputic is now known as thor|coffee [03:57] chroot /mnt/hdX /bin/bash # this starts a shell that maps '/' to /mnt/hdX [03:58] Roey> yep, done that... I can see there is a casper/filesystem.cloop so is IS a compressed filesystem, fine [03:58] passwd root # this will execute /mnt/hdx/sbin/passwd, remember. [03:58] note, hdX is your hard disk [03:58] you don't have to touch the cloop volume in any way (that is on the CD, leave it as it is) [03:59] Roey> oh, are you talking about after it's installed onto a partition ? [03:59] yeah [04:00] markc: I assume you had this installed and didn't have the root password [04:00] sorry, sorry ;) [04:00] you can use "sudo bash" to get a root shell. [04:00] from the ubuntu cd [04:00] Roey> doh... that simple :-) === Roey grins sheepishly [04:00] because sudo is configured to let you execute any command [04:00] so [04:00] sudo ls [04:00] sudo blah [04:01] sudo bash, why not ;) === thor|coffee is now known as thoreauputic [04:02] Roey> yes, I was talking about using the livecd... I've been using linux for years but I'm not used to using sudo... and for instance knoppix has no root pw so getting to a root prompt is easy... this ain't knoppix :-) [04:02] well in knoppix just do su [04:02] withotu any passwrd. [04:02] Roey> thanks for your help, appreciated... one more question... is there any docs on how to remaster the livecd ? [04:02] markc: :) brb [04:02] oh [04:03] hmm [04:03] the knoppix livecd, or ubuntu? [04:03] ubuntu [04:03] kunbuntu even [04:03] I don't know about ubuntu, but #knoppix and #kanotix can help you with their stuff [04:03] I don't know [04:03] btw kubuntu is just an addon for ubuntu ;) [04:03] ok, thanks heaps :-) [04:03] aye! [04:03] hey [04:03] you're in oz arent' you [04:03] *aren't [04:03] yes [04:04] 1pm [04:04] cool, cool [04:04] hot isn't it? [04:04] moderately [04:04] I want to get a house in Australia, and a house in Washington DC -- when it gets cold in one place, I will fly to the other. Like a duck. [04:04] I donno, about 25c I think [04:04] * 9.0/ 5 + 32 [04:04] heh, I'd go to Tasmania for the summers if I could [04:05] 77F [04:05] heh [04:05] about that, maybe 80f [04:05] where are you ? === mmuzzy [~mmuzzy@ip24-250-44-152.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:09] maryland, usa [04:09] brb === Rene_S [~rskrodzki@CPE000ae62705a3-CM014490004397.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@c-5c47e055.560-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === Rene_S [~rskrodzki@CPE000ae62705a3-CM014490004397.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === Roey [~katz@pcp04370251pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:02] hi [05:02] I am compiling my own kernel based on /proc/config.gz config file. [05:02] How do I make an initrd.img with mkinitrd?? [05:02] I want to do this and then be able to use grub-update [05:02] and then I'll be able to choose my new kernel on bootup. [05:03] Can I just symlink an initrd to the existing initrd?? === pepsi is now known as motnahP === alm [~babybert@c-24-12-46-249.client.comcast.net] has joined #Kubuntu === regeya [~shane@sdn-ap-011ilchicP0339.dialsprint.net] has joined #kubuntu === ttf_ [~tom@p83.129.12.202.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu === HillTop [~chatzilla@cpe-204-210-35-9.san.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:26] roey, if you type mkinitrd it gives you the command line [05:26] but i believe it's somtheing like mkinitrd /boot/initrd-filename kernel-version [05:26] mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.6.11-roey1 linu-2.6.11-roey1 [05:26] oh [05:27] oh, ok. [05:27] so the /boot/ininitrd-2.6.11-roey argument is just the name of the output file. [05:27] ok. [05:27] and the linu-2.6.11-roey1 is the existing kernel image, great. [05:27] well, it's the name of the /lib/modules kernel version [05:27] without the /lib/modules [05:27] ok. [05:28] Sparhawk_: how do I know which modules to add to this rdinit.img ? [05:28] i don't use that file, i just put everything in mkinitrd [05:28] Sparhawk_: how does it know which System.map it should include? [05:28] what's everything [05:28] note, i've never done this on debian or ubuntu, only gentoo [05:28] ok [05:28] default mkinitrd is everything i think [05:28] ok [05:28] what [05:28] all the modules??? [05:29] system.map is not needed i think. [05:29] that's crazy.. I built all of them [05:29] all the modules in the initrd is not a problem [05:29] it'll stuff all several hundred megs of modules??? [05:29] gah! my monitor is going to die, and that makes me sad. [05:29] it's only used to get past the first stage of boot [05:29] you do not have several hundred megs of miodules, /lib/modules should only be a couple meg [05:29] ok [05:30] Sparhawk_: I built everything anyway (cat /proc/config.gz > .config) [05:30] er [05:30] zcat /proc/config.gz [05:30] that was just so that I could get the same kernel more or less as the default Ubuntu one === billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:30] 53m for 2.6.10-5-k7 ubuntu kernel, but the init does not actually store the moudles, just pointers [05:31] i'm not a kernel hacker, i'm more of those "it just works" kind of guys [05:32] ok [05:32] lemme try then [05:32] so it's: [05:32] mkinitrd initrd_img kernel_img ? [05:34] arg this don't work. === treke|home [~ggilbert@69-175-32-221.ventca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:44] is there a way to just add a newly compile kernel to the grub system? [05:44] with minimum pain and rdinit crap? [05:44] :) [05:47] umm... how do i take a screenshot in kubuntu? [05:59] psoulocybe - ksnapshot === songoku [~songoku@pool-151-202-101-186.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === motnahP is now known as ispep === P229 [~P229@pool-138-88-147-61.esr.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:15] hi all [06:16] i can't figure out why konq open new links in the same window === poize [~poize@dynamic-216-211-53-80.tbaytel.net] has joined #Kubuntu [06:17] is this a bug of kubuntu preview or something related with kde 3.4? [06:23] can anyone point me to more documentation on the extensions thing in konqueror 3.4? [06:24] is there a site of extensions? [06:24] http://neom.ca/1a.jpg or http://neom.ca/1b.jpg - What do you like better? [06:25] 1b [06:25] 1a is depressing. === psoulocybe [~psoulocyb@adsl-065-007-128-249.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:26] hm [06:28] 1a is cooler, imho [06:29] billytwowilly: They are part of kdeaddons [06:29] billytwowilly: which isnt available in kubuntu at the moment === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu [06:29] treke|home: Darn. Is there a list of what are there? I'm jonesing for some bugmenot plugin goodness;) [06:30] bugmenot? Probably not included [06:30] noooo! [06:30] oooh bugmenot [06:30] it isn't there. [06:30] I found some info. [06:30] firefox has a sweet bugmenot extension. [06:30] one of the things that has me thinking of installing firefox [06:30] Yah, firefox is nice, quite nice. [06:31] I actually like it better than konqueror, but konqueror looks better in kde. [06:31] when I look at firefox in kde something strikes me as wrong. [06:31] http://adblock.mozdev.org is why I can't use any other browser [06:31] billytwowilly, try installing a different firefox theme [06:32] so, the html rendering engine in firefox is being ported to konqueror, how about the extension engine?;) [06:32] There isn't one that quite fits my desktop [06:32] the renderer would just plug in in the place of khtml, so not much would really change plugin wise [06:33] all I really need to be happy with konqueror is a google search thing like in firefox (which I think is possible, I just haven't figured it out yet) [06:33] and bugmenot would be nice, but not necessary. [06:33] that's part of kdeaddons [06:34] the google thing? [06:34] yes [06:34] ok, I'll just wait for that, the kubuntu guys can't be much longer with it. [06:34] They've had 3.4 out for a week or so now. [06:34] or just type gg:foo in the title bar [06:34] heh, it's not the same;) [06:35] hmm. [06:35] wait, maybe it is. I forgot I modded firefox's behaviour to open searches in a new tab. [06:35] billytwowilly, you mean the search thing next to the address bar? [06:35] yah [06:36] konqueror has that already [06:36] well, when I say "I modded" I really mean "I installed an extension that did it for me. [06:36] P229: yah, it's in kdeaddons. [06:36] treke already filled me in. [06:37] oh... silly me, I didn't realize I had that installed [06:37] well, thanks guys, I'm going to save my karma and not ask anymore questions for a while;) [06:37] ttyl [06:38] P229: Is it part of kdebase? Thought it was in addons [06:44] treke|home, the google thing? I actually have no idea. I mostly use gnome, but I have kdeaddons installed and the google search thing does appear in konqueror === regeya [~shane@sdn-ap-011ilchicP0339.dialsprint.net] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu === poize [~poize@dynamic-216-211-53-80.tbaytel.net] has left #Kubuntu ["Leaving"] === regeya_ [~shane@sdn-ap-013ilchicP0411.dialsprint.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:32] cool, kubuntu ppc iso is done downloading :) === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu === spektr_ [~th@M995P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [07:53] kubuntu sucks it should be renamed to kuubuntu [07:56] why? [07:56] because if ku mean towards [07:56] and ubuntu means humanity [07:56] ... [07:56] hm [07:56] Any way the name doesn't make snese [07:57] kde is not towards humanity its towards power users [07:58] if kde and gnome would be BSD [07:58] gnome would be a mix of freebsd and netbsd [07:58] Well either way, we just prefer the kde software enviornment...so, yah. [07:58] while kde will be of just freebsd [07:58] I dont get the analogy [07:59] kde aim is not to be profonal or portable [07:59] it real aim is to be configurable [08:05] humanity means things work alike [08:05] gnome has a HIG [08:05] kde has a pile of widgets === ispep is now known as yz33rb [08:22] hrmmm. ppc installer doesnt want to work === treke|home hopes it's just a misburned cd === yz33rb is now known as Fhantom === Fhantom is now known as pepsi === thoreauputic [~debianarc@wolax8-235.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === kbitty [~kasper@60-240-141-4-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [08:32] http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=22042 [08:33] kubuntu blue and true [08:35] Are you a girl? [08:35] heh [08:35] lol [08:36] its purple! [08:36] riiiight. ;P === ttf_ is now known as ttf [08:36] http://neom.ca/kde1.png === pepsi is now known as _trebyps [08:36] sept with 3.4 now. [08:38] http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=22008&file1=22008-1.png&file2=22008-2.png&file3=22008-3.png&name=kubuntu+true === _trebyps is now known as nosnhojh [08:38] with blue [08:38] but i just ripped that wallpaper then the first link [08:38] if you didnt notice the kubuntu on it [08:38] top left === |QuaD- [~QuaD@beac872-0b01-dhcp149.bu.edu] has left #kubuntu [] [08:40] no one likes it ? [08:40] ne one got ne good bootsplash images they made or grub splash screens? === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #kubuntu ["KDE] === ttf [~tom@p83.129.12.202.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu === nosnhojh is now known as papsi [08:58] ok that's coool [08:58] suspend works on my laptop now that I installed ubuntu === papsi is now known as papsmear [09:00] does ne one have ne good wallpapper for kubuntu? === sabdfl [~mark@185.16.202.62.fix.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu === sabdfl [~mark@185.16.202.62.fix.bluewin.ch] has left #kubuntu [] === kmanTFM [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === tackat666 [~tackat@pD950189B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === remon [~remon@210-64-dsl.ipact.nl] has joined #kubuntu === kbitty [~kbitty@60-240-141-4-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === Quinn_Storm [~quinn@pa-bethelparkcadent1shills1d-6.pit.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === pv_ [~pv@jt11-57-1.tky.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:48] Hi all. [10:48] Is anybody else having problems using the Kmail IMAP resources (calendars etc. o [10:48] n IMAP) on Hoary's new KDE 3.4.0? === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === apokryphos7 [~apokrypho@host-84-9-33-175.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:00] pv_: I think there was a bug something like that in kde3.4 release, not sure if hoary has a patch in the repo yet or not...try making sure you're up-to-date [11:08] Quinn_Storm, This was on 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3 which seems to be the newest version. (I've also filed #7971 in bugzilla.) [11:09] pv_: ok, its probably that they haven't totally applied the patch yet...not certain though, sorry I can't help more, I don't use imap myself [11:11] Quinn_Storm, Ok, and thanks for the info. === azuzak [~azuzak@201009179241.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === apokryphos7 [~apokrypho@host-84-9-34-23.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.63.67] has joined #kubuntu === DaivdH86 [~ask@12-223-132-65.client.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu === marcusT [~marcus@router-office.fotango.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:31] mmm... I still have the looping kbuildsycoca problem === apokryphos77 [~apokrypho@host-84-9-34-128.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === dvoid [~dvoid@c-215fe155.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.213.112] has joined #kubuntu === markc [~markc@CPE-203-45-212-98.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [11:57] is there a remastering howto somewhere ? === dopez [~unknown@dopez.user] has left #kubuntu [] [11:57] specific to ubuntu/kubuntu, that is === azuzak [~azuzak@201009179241.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.32.27] has joined #kubuntu === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.212.75] has joined #kubuntu === tbarkley [~fref@24.107.196.152.charter-stl.com] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu === LeeJunFan [~junfan@64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu === Verwilst [~verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu [01:51] Riddell: ping [01:51] amu: ping === ubuntu [~ubuntu@CPE-203-45-212-29.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:54] Hey.. I just inserted a SoundBlaster Live card... Any ideas how I get it to work? [01:54] I'm booted up into kubuntu now, is there a way to save my custom settings ? [01:54] Shaquile> modprobe snd-emu10k1 [01:54] ubuntu: Already done [01:55] Shaquile> woops, I must have the default kubuntu irc nick :-) [01:55] ubuntu: Hehe [01:55] Shaquile> have you run alsamixer and turned up the volumes ? [01:55] ubuntu: That's not the problem.. ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such file or directory [01:56] Shaquile> modprobe snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss === dudley [~dudley@63.72.167.170] has joined #kubuntu [01:57] my old sblive is beeping away under kubuntu [01:58] ubuntu: already done.. [01:58] wow, irc nicks are unique so that means I must be the only idiot on freenode that's connected via a livecd!! [01:59] does /dev/dsp exist (ls -l) ? === insanekane [~Rajeev@202.83.44.203] has joined #kubuntu [02:01] amu: you there ? [02:01] maybe run this and it _might_ help pinpoint your problem http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=aadebug === jmki [~jmki@a81-197-235-95.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.56.148] has joined #kubuntu === gumdo [~hoju@210.108.213.123] has joined #kubuntu === buga-away is now known as buga === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === Telep_ [~telep@dsl-tregw3hb8.dial.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.242.88] has joined #kubuntu === _ronny_ [~ronny@pD9EC4D34.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === markc [~ubuntu@CPE-203-45-215-4.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === buga [~burjang@csomalin.csoma.elte.hu] has joined #kubuntu === dvoid is now known as _0x00045 === chakie [~chakie@tux.adsl.abo.fi] has joined #kubuntu [03:08] oo, lots of people here [03:10] i just downsucked the live cd, not even tested it yet, so i'm just a possible wannabe kubuntuer === rzei [~rzei@62-237-147-189.hpna.wlannet.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:13] hi everyone i just installed kubuntu and .... i don't remember being prompted for a root password at any stage [03:14] is this a known problem? :) [03:15] <_P_> rzei: there is not root passwd [03:15] <_P_> kubuntu and ubuntu uses sudo [03:15] _P_: oh.. i guessed something like that [03:16] aah, now i've got my root passwd :) [03:17] why does it look like that the font size 12 is much bigger than 11 and 13? === regeya [~shane@dialup-4.159.56.212.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:26] rzei: maybe u need to turn on anti-aliasing ? [03:40] rzei> bitstream vera fonts seem to be naturally bigger than helvetica (or airial) [03:40] ubuntulog: Still here? === katz_ is now known as Roey [03:40] msttcorefonts is not in kubuntu it seems. === dudley [~dudley@63.72.167.170] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [03:41] insanekane: markc: actually a restart took care of that [03:41] the only thing I can't figure is how to save all the settings I've changed in the livecd so I don't have to to it all again next time I boot into the livecd [03:42] but hey, there are some pretty insane default settings on kubuntu! every text/plain to text/x-c++ is opened to openoffice writer, and kate comes in next? where do i file a bugreport? [03:42] I thing a tarball of the home dir would be a reasonable workaround === Beineri [~Beineri@binner.kde] has joined #kubuntu === papsmear is now known as pepsi [03:44] rzei> I don't know where the bug reports should go but the Help -> Report Bug _> Launch Wizard goes to some loval html files so they could be tweaked for kunbuntu... that'd be cool [03:45] local [03:45] err.. where's my khexedit? [03:46] come on, what's this, every diff is supposed to be opened with openoffice? [03:46] perhaps a apt-get install away [03:46] yuk [03:46] markc: nah the khexedit is there, but it's just hidden [03:47] rzei: thanks :) [03:47] where was it... which didn't find it for me [03:47] damn there's more to tweak in this than in a lfs system :) [03:47] and i thought i could get away easily :) [03:48] lfs ? [03:48] linuxfromscratch [03:50] heh, I wonder how long I can last without rebooting! I just spent 2 hours tweaking this livecd instance. [03:52] =) [03:52] markc: so I see you got some help with that [03:53] Roey> sorry, with what ? ... no, I haven't figured out how to save all my settings yet... maybe just a tarball of /home/ubuntu might do the trick [03:55] markc: with remastering ubuntu livecds? :) [03:55] ah cool, I have a copy of a knoppix save config setup... the tarball is called "config.tbz" and the active script is calle knoppix.sh... hmm, might be able to adapt this for kubuntu [03:57] Roey> hell no, I haven't got anywhere yet except booted up onto the livecd with root access... and I was silly enough to spend a coupl of hours tweaking things the way I like them... couldn't help meself! [03:58] =) [03:59] am i the only one who's kcmshells sigsegv when closing? === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu === nubbe [~fsdhufsd@c-932970d5.031-17-67626713.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === Rene_S [~rskrodzki@CPE000ae62705a3-CM014490004397.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:01] yes, cool, knoppix's save settings file is just the home dir plus a couple of dozen files from /etc === alm [~babybert@c-24-12-46-249.client.comcast.net] has joined #Kubuntu [04:08] what web browser does everyone prefer? FF or Konq? [04:08] ff [04:08] although that's just me, not "everyone" ;) === Telep_ is now known as Telep [04:09] I understand, I am using FF now, but considering a switch, I was kinda wondering how flash, movies, etc render in konq === alm [~babybert@c-24-12-46-249.client.comcast.net] has joined #Kubuntu [04:25] heh, I added a comment to the KubuntuSuggestedPackages wiki, I wonder if anyone else will be interested, and if I can remain booted on this liveCD until there is a working sollution to save my settings :-) [04:29] *solution [04:29] cool [04:33] oh yeah :-) stupid keyboard === deltaex [~deltaex@212.62.75.9] has joined #kubuntu [04:37] WOW... apt-get works on this liveCD... damn, I wonder how that works... unionFS perhaps... too cool! [04:37] hmm [04:37] it was not unionfs [04:37] it was something else (i remmeber asking that) === deltaex [~deltaex@212.62.75.9] has left #kubuntu ["Verlassend"] [04:43] OH NO, there is no PHP in universe... wtf! [04:43] surely that can't be [04:45] hahahaha [04:45] lovely :) [04:46] Roey: "device mapper"? [04:46] Beineri: what of it? [04:46] Roey: instead of unionfs? [04:46] Beineri: oh! ok [04:46] device mapper ? got a URL ? [04:46] Beineri: that makes sense.. you have a ram disk and a CD disc and you use LVM to connect them [04:46] hmm [04:47] Roey: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDDesign http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCD [04:47] markc: #lvm, #evms [04:47] thanks === Pointwood [~Pointwood@212.242.222.232] has joined #kubuntu [04:50] Beineri: some of my RAID devices are listed in /proc/mdstat as normal software raid devices (that is, it shows /dev/md2 as sda&sdb), but others are shown with device names like dm-set1 or dm-something-3 [04:50] what's up with that? [04:50] that's after my installation of ubuntu [04:50] why is dm managing any of my physical partitions??? === thiesen [~marcus@80.169.162.72] has joined #kubuntu === Beineri_ [~Beineri@pD9E79C7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === Beineri_ is now known as Beineri === Telep [~telep@dsl-tregw3hb8.dial.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [04:57] Beineri> those links were exactly what I was after, thank you!!! === berli [~rasch@user-10lf8h9.cable.mindspring.com] has left #kubuntu [] === apokryphos77 [~apokrypho@host-84-9-34-128.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === SeeleyUSMC [~Shawn@ca-29palms-cmts2a-57.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:11] damned the download is slow [05:11] i had 4meg per second until 520 meg, then it dropped to 15k or so :( [05:11] Yeah really [05:12] I'm running the dl at 10KB/s...started at only 40 too === Pyre [~Pyre@host-84-9-34-128.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:12] strange though === _ronny_ can't run k3bsetup. Error: could not find moudle 'k3bsetup2' --> any solutions? :) [05:12] i redownloaded it, and the same, first 3-4 meg per second, at +- 520, back to 16 [05:13] 7 now even :' [05:13] :'( === nubbe [~fsdhufsd@c-932970d5.031-17-67626713.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [05:15] 21kbs now === jontiz [jontiz@c-feede253.15-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === berli [~rasch@user-10lf8h9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:27] anyone have a script to fix the KDE text file associations so they don't all open OpenOffice? I was just doing it manually until i tried to "view source" in konqueror [05:32] does it still hold true that wireless won't work without gnome-system-tools? [05:41] Telep: i don't have gnome-system-tools installed and wireless works fine === amiroff [~amiroff@dsl81-214-21642.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #kubuntu === Blissex [~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #Kubuntu === psn [~psn@psn.developer.konversation] has joined #kubuntu === spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:05] hi === benjanet [~benja@pc-52-169-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #kubuntu === amiroff is now known as amiroff_away === lymz [~lymz@ip68-109-136-240.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === amiroff_away is now known as amiroff [06:33] howdy === insanekane [~Rajeev@202.83.44.203] has left #kubuntu ["Most] === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] :D === treke|laptop [~ggilbert@69-175-32-221.ventca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === |ronny| [~ronny@pD9EC48F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === Rene_S [~rskrodzki@CPE000ae62705a3-CM014490004397.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === Pyre [~Pyre@host-84-9-34-128.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === treke|laptop [~ggilbert@69-175-32-221.ventca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === treke|laptop [~ggilbert@69-175-32-221.ventca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:24] g'morning all [07:27] amu: finally.... :-) === benjanet [~benja@pc-52-169-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #kubuntu === treke|laptop [~ggilbert@69-175-32-221.ventca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:42] hi === damn_yankee [damn_yanke@bb-205-209-66-76.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:44] I tried to install a new kernel by building it, then running 'mkinitrd initrd.img-2.6.11.5 2.6.11.5 ; grub-update'. Then I tried selecting it from the menu on bootup. It complains about a 'pivot_error: no such file' and that it "can't open /dev/console" or something like that. === benjanet [~benja@pc-52-169-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #kubuntu === spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:46] how do i minimize windows on KDE _ [07:47] benjanet: click the minimise button at the top right of the window === mfoxela [~legolas@port-212-202-8-100.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu === LeeJunFan [~junfan@64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:52] and ALL windows _ === nubbe [~fsdhufsd@c-a72970d5.031-17-67626713.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [07:55] hi, [07:56] I have installed the preview yesterday and I am missing the "add new network folder" in konqueror "remote:/" [07:57] hehe [07:57] I have seen this on debian/unstable kde 3.4pre packages [07:57] I just noticed that 30 seconds ago :) [07:57] is this rwmoved from kde final or from kubuntu? [07:57] s/rwmoved/removed/ [07:58] for the time being you can run knetattach to do that [07:59] thank you for the hint :) [08:00] benjanet: alt-ctrl-D [08:00] I'd put in a bug report, but I can't get to my mail atm to sign up for bugzilla [08:01] allee, Thanks >D [08:01] allee, Thanks :D [08:02] I can do that. bugzilla.ubuntulinux.org? [08:03] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ is what I found === treke|laptop [~ggilbert@69-175-32-221.ventca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:03] ok [08:03] mfoxela: it's a known issue [08:04] riddell: ok [08:04] mfoxela: there may already be a bugzilla entry, not sure, you should check first [08:06] Riddel: another proposition: what about adding the same tabs to the navigation panel as you can find on the system menu in the panel? === buga is now known as buga-away [08:06] I mean the navigation panel of konqueror [08:07] Riddell: All in all, I think you've done a terrific job on kubuntu. The default install is really nicely simplified [08:08] treke|laptop: you are right, thats the nicest and less bloated default kde installation I have seen [08:08] mfoxela: system menu? [08:08] treke|laptop: cool, thanks [08:09] in the panel you have the system button with Home folder, Storage media etc. [08:09] mfoxela: mm hmm [08:10] and the same 5 buttons could be found in the konqeror navigation panel [08:10] mfoxela: they're mostly already in the Go menu [08:10] which, like the rest of konqueror, could do with some user interface love [08:11] ridell: you are right, didn't see this [08:12] actually the system panel menu needs some improvements too [08:12] should i enable "sub pixel hinting" ? [08:12] benjanet: if you have an LCD screen and know which way round the colours go [08:12] benjanet: do you have an LCD display? [08:13] treke|laptop, nope..CRT :) [08:14] riddell: I think the hd partitions could be removed from storage media, or at least be separated from removeble media [08:15] mfoxela: agreed, I'll try and investigate that [08:16] hi :) <--- hellobot :P [08:17] j/k [08:17] Riddell, sorry again for Gwenview...I now realize how nice it is inside Konqueror [08:17] ztonzy: he he, a convert :) [08:17] hehe [08:18] Riddell, what though want...being able to do html gallery of my digicamera pics...also, would be neat [08:18] ztonzy: that's in kdeaddons which we havn't done yet [08:19] Riddell, yepp...hd's away from storage media...have loads of those now in storagemedia list :-/ [08:19] Riddell, ok...no hurry ? [08:19] Riddell: what html gallery stuff is in kdeaddons? [08:21] allee: there's a konqueror plugin to make an HTML gallery of all the images in a directory [08:21] ztonzy: try kipi-plugins + gwenview or digikam === Riddell spots kipi-plugins further down his todo list [08:22] well... digikam doesn't compress and make image gallery into html what I know, maybe I am wrong... [08:22] kipi ? [08:23] <`TUX``> Riddell: [08:24] ztonzy: kipi-plugins, is an enhanced version of image gallery of kdeaddons (I almost sure. But I now it was a copy from KDE cvs) [08:24] <`TUX``> i need to uses cups from localhost === tbarkley [~fref@24.107.196.152.charter-stl.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:24] kipi: KDE Image Plugins Interface [08:24] allee, thanks! will try and find it [08:24] <`TUX``> but i can't use administrator [08:24] <`TUX``> how can i renable it? [08:25] ztonzy, Riddell: deb http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary ./ ;) [08:25] hmm [08:25] another thing [08:25] Riddell, when I want to install with Kynaptic...the buttons below is not showing...the bottom borders needs to be dragged [08:26] allee: as I say, my the todo list :) [08:26] allee, what is it ? [08:26] Riddell, and I need to do it every time [08:26] ztonzy: what? the URL? [08:27] allee, yupp, what does it contain ? === DarthFrog [~rob@S010600036df5148f.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:27] no kipi-plugins in my repositry [08:27] Riddell: Did you see where kubuntu is actually a word in one of the Bantu languages? Means "to humanity". :-) [08:28] ztonzy: kipi-plugins + latest digikam release. Try http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary/Pkgs.php for a list === Lano [~bsa@BSN-77-101-47.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:28] DarthFrog: yes, pretty fortunate really, means the slashdot comments were about that and not slagging off the name :) [08:28] ztonzy: which buttons? [08:28] Riddell: It'll be more than Slashdot, I'm afraid. [08:29] Riddell: You might want to mention it front and centre on the kubuntu web page. :-) === BamaJank [~bamajank@68.212.213.6] has joined #kubuntu [08:29] might want to verify it's true before doing that : [08:29] :p [08:30] DarthFrog: it's on the FAQ [08:30] Riddell: Good idea. [08:30] let's see GNOME folks make up a super-gnome distribution and see how they try and justify Gubuntu. [08:30] and yes, like treke|laptop says :) [08:30] is there an easy way so KDE fonts dont look so bold ? [08:30] Riddell, continue when want to installed marked stuff in the list [08:30] Riddell: have I mentioned just how good a job you guys are doing? I'm seriously impressed with kubuntu. [08:30] Not GuGubuntu? [08:30] ztonzy: works for me, can you send a screenshot? [08:31] Roey: they called it ubuntu :) [08:31] allee, how to add this into synaptic? (kynaptic doesnt have a repositry lists) [08:31] Riddell, sure [08:32] treke|laptop: hence "super-gnome" distribution :) [08:32] So is KDE going to start releasing previews by way of LiveCDs now? === remon [~remon@210-64-dsl.ipact.nl] has left #kubuntu [] [08:34] Riddell, can you take DCC ? === remon [~remon@210-64-dsl.ipact.nl] has joined #kubuntu [08:35] ztonzy: nope, http prefered [08:35] Riddell, ok, wait === remon [~remon@210-64-dsl.ipact.nl] has joined #kubuntu [08:37] http://hem.bredband.net/b311031/tmp/kynaptic_button_bug.png [08:37] looks like that for me each time [08:38] ztonzy: strange. maybe the layout is done fixed with and you have larger fonts set [08:38] hmm...settings in Kontrolpanel ? [08:39] strange [08:39] all those are 8 points [08:39] and it is small [08:41] ztonzy: never used kynaptics. Booting ... === apokryphos [~apokrypho@host-84-9-34-128.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:53] apokryphos, hey [08:53] good evening [08:56] downloading preview release,now..any time-saving tips? [08:56] post-install config's? [08:56] not really apart from if you have Ubuntu, don't downoad it. :) [08:57] Not so much apart from general kcontrol stuff [08:57] don't care for gnome de [08:57] damn_yankee: are you currently on ubuntu? [08:57] is kde 3.4 real buggy? [08:57] Not at all [08:58] no,in windows and run debian-unstable,dual-boot,had o do doc's in winbloze,so dwnlding it now [08:58] ok, cool. [08:59] ran wrty 4.10,but i'm not big on Gnome,personal preference [08:59] Warty progs are very dated compared to hoary [09:00] cool..you can upgrade from debian testing/unstable repositorys? [09:00] or from ubuntu,only? [09:00] It is not recommended, but there have been a few success stories with a bit of alteration after. [09:01] apt-pinning to the rescue..:) [09:01] some have had problems though... [09:01] yes,not distro specific prob.. [09:02] o.k.,thanks,i'll lurk for a while to see what issues are common,yhanks for response! [09:02] 28% done [09:04] no problem [09:04] 1st time i've booted windows in a month:) === Ronny [~ronny@pD9EC48F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === encKe` [~encKe`@ppp-65-67-227-161.ded.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === Ronny [~ronny@pD9EC48F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === _ronny_ [~ronny@pD9EC48F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === Verwilst [~verwilst@dD576F2E8.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu [09:20] 90% and counting down.. [09:21] do all KDE users see big/bold fonts ?? [09:22] benjanet: I don't. But you can edit your fonts from kcontrol if there's a problem... [09:23] apokryphos, i find that the standard set of fonts, is wierd in size...copared to the gnome one [09:24] benjanet: could you send a screenie, perhaps? [09:24] i tried changing theme, but fonts continue all sizes [09:24] Theme won't change font-size [09:24] ok, what theme do u use [09:24] kcontrol > Appearance & Themes > Fonts will [09:27] benjanet: my impressin was that gnome uses px not pt. KDE uses pt (I would use 10 pt as default, but I'm sure 12pt has a 'deeper' sense.) [09:28] any idea when python-kde3 will be updated? [09:30] apokryphos:download complete,now,to burn,what firewall tools,if any,are installed by default/ [09:31] The conventional linux one, I think. [09:31] I know there are other firewall tools available, but I don't use/know them. [09:31] no guarddog,firestareter,o.k. ipkungfu will work just fine [09:32] thank you.. [09:32] i never connect w/o setiing up ip-tables f/w 1st..:) === _ragnar [~ragnar@a54.starfsm.hi.is] has joined #kubuntu === incubii [~cb239b9e@cyanidehosting.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:37] does anyone else have any troubles burning the 5.04 CD images? OS X Disk utility just bombs out from trying to read the iso. Linux burns it but then when im installing from the media it bombs out with corrupt errors, any ideas ? [09:37] this is on the PPC version [09:38] damn_yankee: hmm, you might want to read: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FireWall [09:38] apokryphos:thanks === rickdangerous [~semaphor@85.99.64.103] has joined #kubuntu === spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:41] hi === LeeJunFan [~junfan@64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu === tackat666 is now known as tackat === remon [~remon@210-64-dsl.ipact.nl] has joined #kubuntu === NamShub [~wasted@dsl-151-117.aei.ca] has joined #kubuntu === Beuno [~bueno@98-143-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu [10:12] hey, I installed kubuntu over my ubuntu, with apt-get [10:12] now [10:12] I dont have the option [10:12] to load gnome any more [10:12] any ideas? [10:13] Beuno: no different ones, from me. :P [10:13] lol [10:13] :D === gman4e [~gman@193.10.185.3] has joined #kubuntu [10:13] Beuno: are you using kdm/gdm? === apokryphos is quite sorry, but I've got to dash for about 10 mins. Will be back later. [10:14] Im useing [10:14] apparently [10:14] kdm [10:14] just installed ubuntu yesterday, still kinda lost [10:15] liking it MUCH better then mandrake and fedora [10:15] http://www.kubuntu.org.uk/documentation.php#d0e340 [10:15] jsu got excited and installed kunutnu [10:15] i finally go kubuntu to burn properly in OS X [10:15] tells how to switch between gnome and kde [10:15] its installing now [10:15] tnx! [10:15] Ill give that a try! [10:16] n.p. [10:17] /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: gdm is broken or not fully installed [10:17] :/ [10:18] try,apt-get -f install as su or root [10:19] Reading Package Lists... Done [10:19] Building Dependency Tree... Done [10:19] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 69 not upgraded. [10:19] try apt-get -f gdm [10:20] E: Invalid operation gdm [10:21] wait [10:21] dod [10:21] did [10:21] apt-get -f install gdm [10:21] doing something [10:21] :D [10:23] ah ffs its stoped on network repositry [10:23] *it's [10:24] brb [10:24] going to re-boot in linux,b.b.l. === damn_yankee [damn_yanke@bb-205-209-66-76.gwi.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === benjanet [~benja@pc-52-169-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #kubuntu === incubii wishes escape would cancel the network lookup [10:26] 5 mins to time out is a bit too long :| [10:27] ack === Beuno [~bueno@98-143-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu [10:30] hey, apok: worked!!!! [10:30] :D [10:30] thanks a lot! [10:32] still waiting for security repositry to time out :| [10:32] go you good thing === buga-away is now known as buga === damn_yankee [~nobody@bb-205-209-66-225.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu === damn_yankee [~nobody@bb-205-209-66-225.gwi.net] has left #kubuntu ["I] [10:45] ooo kubuntu looks sweet === anna [~anna@p5083932F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@84-122-213-74.onocable.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:52] Hallo, mein Kubuntu spinnt === ubuntu is now known as arriero [10:53] Ich hab das .kde gelscht, und das Datum auf DD.MM.YYYY gestellt [10:53] Jetzt zeigt die Uhr z.B. DD.03.YYYY an [10:53] Kmail macht es genauso ... ich bin verloren === arriero [~ubuntu@84-122-213-74.onocable.ono.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Beuno [~bueno@98-143-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu === mainer1 [~mainer3@bb-205-209-66-225.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu === mainer1 [~mainer3@bb-205-209-66-225.gwi.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:57] anna: verfrag auf #knoppix oder #kanotix? [10:58] anna: *bitten Sie auf #knoppix oder #kanotix? Sie sprachen dort auf Deutsch [10:59] anna: oder verstehstu Anglisch? [11:00] heh :-/ [11:01] ztonzy: mein Duetsch ist *soooo* schlecht(er) [11:01] mein brokener Deutsch. [11:01] I'm not German, but I can guess what that means. :P [11:02] Roey, eller kanske svenska ;) ? [11:02] hehe [11:02] ztonzy: muy mal [11:02] very bad [11:02] I don't know it [11:02] I love languages but I don't know that one [11:02] what is it, danish? [11:03] :p [11:03] swedish? [11:03] swedish [11:03] yes! [11:03] got it [11:03] svenska is swedish [11:03] jupp [11:03] all I know of Swedish is "bork, bork, bork" [11:03] =) [11:03] that's just crap [11:03] I know [11:03] ztonzy: who was it here who was talking about it? [11:03] hehe [11:03] americans ;) [11:03] ah =) [11:03] I dont know [11:04] ztonzy: was it the two of us who were speaking about the Swedish Chef [11:04] no [11:04] hej [11:04] hejsan! [11:04] :D [11:04] hej d [11:04] =) [11:04] lol [11:04] That's the extent of my Swedish (just learnt it). [11:05] hejsa [11:05] that's fine === MindZEye [~MZE@seanparsons.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:05] or "tack" --> "thanks" [11:05] er der andre skandinaver her? :) [11:05] Pointwood, seems so [11:05] <--- me [11:05] and the most important: ?l == beer [11:06] hehe [11:06] l [11:06] :) [11:06] apokryphos: you forgot: [11:06] but in german that means oil [11:06] so I have heard [11:06] apokryphos: "enn nauwwwww, dee cho-ko-lette ferrrrr dee moooooooose" [11:07] Roey, hot chocolate with whipped cream ? [11:07] How could I forget! [11:07] =) [11:07] danish = piskefle [11:07] bork, bork, bork. [11:07] (what does it mean? ) [11:07] apokryphos: bork? [11:07] apokryphos: probably something important to swedes [11:07] apokryphos: like food or something [11:07] Roey, what ?? [11:07] apokryphos: bork mousse? [11:07] ztonzy: kidding, kidding! :) [11:07] apokryphos: it's a made-up word [11:07] I cant make any sense of it [11:08] piskefloede ;) [11:08] Pointwood, yay ! [11:08] ztonzy: "and now, the chocolate for the mousse" [11:08] skl [11:08] farligt [11:08] Pointwood, and let the tounge roll as ever !! [11:08] hehe [11:08] ztonzy: can you understand german at all [11:08] Pointwood, I can say it in danish [11:08] nice === ztonzy was grown up with danish radio/tv [11:08] "roed groed med floede" is the real test ;) [11:08] lol [11:09] oe = [11:09] Roey: I do [11:09] oe = ? [11:09] hur mycket [11:09] aa = ? [11:09] ae = ? [11:09] not sure if you can see them correctly [11:09] Pointwood: aaaha ok, I thought I saw 'german' uttered here. [11:09] io and some times y too' [11:09] and u [11:09] or the diff. charsets makes it look wrong [11:09] DaivdH86: =) [11:10] Pointwood: looks OK here. [11:10] Pointwood: I don't know how to type them though. [11:10] lol [11:10] (american US keyboard layout) === DaivdH86 thinks switch layout [11:11] Roey: if you still use konversation use Insert->Special Character [11:11] apokryphos: heya, just noticed you on #ubuntu too [11:11] psn: hey!!!!!! [11:11] Roey: you [11:11] psn: OK look I wanna start hacking Konvi again [11:11] Roey: yup :). Ubuntu is us. [11:11] :) [11:11] Roey: I've had german in school for some years [11:11] Pointwood: awesome [11:11] Pointwood: it's such a mechanical language, I love it :) [11:11] Pointwood: it's like.. ya know what it sounds like to me? [11:11] Pointwood, I use charset ISO-8859-15 :) [11:11] but that's some years back and when you don't use it regularly... [11:12] Pointwood: think of a Mecha, but built in the 19th century, out of wood and iron [11:12] Pointwood: that runs on steam [11:12] Roey: cool we'll have a release this week so we're a bit frozen at the moment :) [11:12] Pointwood: that's what it's like to me. [11:12] ztonzy: same here [11:12] psn: =) [11:12] Roey, no I dont understand german very well, but I can probably understand some text... [11:12] Mecha? [11:12] Roey, cause swedish and german are close related [11:12] aye === Beineri [~Beineri@binner.kde] has left #kubuntu ["CARRIER] [11:13] I guess bork in german would be translated to verpfeffengeschlecktenbock [11:13] bock bock bock. [11:13] lol [11:14] LOL [11:14] saurkraut [11:14] huge sausage :p ? [11:14] =) [11:14] see, [11:14] ztonzy: no [11:14] Jo jo jo [11:15] ahh, German, it's like this giant wood-and-iron Mecha that runs on steam. [11:15] I don't like german [11:15] i like it. [11:15] I want to learn it. [11:15] I took some Yidish courses in college, I want to learn them both. [11:15] German looks like it'll make my throat hurt after speaking it long. [11:15] heh [11:15] the people are, in general, very nice people [11:15] I think I'd have a hard time getting around there.. I'm vegan [11:16] I find most Europeans very nice, in general. Except for England, of course. :P [11:16] heh [11:16] vegan? [11:16] The best summing up I've heard from someone foreign who said, "they have cold bones". [11:16] Roey: and most people can speak english [11:16] Pointwood: strict vegetarian [11:16] oh [11:17] "I didn't fight my way to the top of the food-chain to be a vegetarian" [11:17] :P [11:17] that's something I will never become ;) [11:17] nor I [11:17] Pointwood: germans speaking english, wouldn't that be more like 19th century wood-and-iron mechas running on steam that can transform into wooden biplanes? [11:17] I guess I don't quite understand why :) [11:18] but as long as I'm allowed to eat som nice steaks and such, I'm happy :) [11:19] aye [11:20] France is prolly where you'd have to biggest problem in regards to language, unless you can speak French ;) [11:20] omg [11:20] French... [11:21] that's like.. hmm. === ztonzy is a meateater === jontiz [~jontiz@c-8aece253.15-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [11:21] A mecha made out of chocolate souffle that deflates after a poke or two [11:21] looks big [11:21] [11:21] deflates. [11:26] Don't poke me, I'm full of chocolate. [11:26] =) [11:27] humm :) === Roey imagines Stayed-Puff Marshmallow Man made of chocolate [11:27] that's what I mean [11:27] cvs-bf-blender has now transform widgets :P [11:28] but for normalmovements there isn't yet... (in editmode) [11:28] if anyone in here cares ;) === chakie_ [~chakie@tux.adsl.abo.fi] has joined #kubuntu [11:29] ztonzy: I'm interested. [11:30] MindZEye, aah :) [11:30] MindZEye, you use Blender ? [11:30] compile it yourself ? [11:31] No, I'm a lazy user. :) [11:31] haha [11:31] So when you say transform widgets, what exactly are we talking about? [11:31] no Blender user is a lazy user ;) === pv_ [~pv@jt11-57-1.tky.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] MindZEye, in Maya and MAX they have this when moving..colored axis to grab...and move certain location === MindZEye looks over at his Blender manual and decides to spend more time on it. [11:32] MindZEye, you have a printed manual ? [11:33] Yup. [11:33] MindZEye, which ? 2.3 ? [11:33] have happened a lot in Blender since then [11:33] Yup again. [11:33] Yeah, but it's getting me to understand the basics. Given that I'm a complete noob with it. [11:34] MindZEye, wanna have a build I did minutes ago ? packed and all ? [11:34] hehe [11:34] ztonzy: AMD64? === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:34] MindZEye, no...it is i386 [11:34] usual... XP2800+ is my CPU [11:34] I wouldn't be able to use it, I'm afraid. [11:35] could go to testbuild forum and find out === treke|laptop [~ggilbert@69-175-32-221.ventca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:36] but I dont see any late build I think [11:36] Can someone help me with my Kubuntu Installation.... [11:36] MindZEye, sorry [11:36] I have a Windows Partition (hda1) and an external USB Drive (sde1) they are mounted but do not show up on the DEsktop [11:37] phxguy: have you checked ubuntuguide.org? [11:37] yes i have... [11:37] the drives are mounted [11:38] i cvan goto /media and see the files from there but they dont show up on my desktop [11:38] or in the devices window [11:38] Oh yes, you mentioned it earlier... sorry, I have no idea. [11:38] very odd [11:39] sometimes they show up sometimes they donr [11:39] dont [11:39] Thanks anyway. [11:39] Is it me or is the new Kopete bah-roken? [11:39] Or maybe it's my net connection. [11:39] does it not help if you Refresh sometimes? [11:39] MindZEye: fine here [11:39] apokryphos: can you help with the MODPROBE FATAL error??? I followed the isntruction on ubuntuguide and added those lines but i still get a modprode error === MindZEye [~MZE@seanparsons.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:40] phxguy: nope; never encountered that; it's worth asking in #ubuntu [11:41] ok will do [11:41] hard to get someone to answer in there... its so busy [11:42] if they don't answer, you can always try at a later time. [11:44] night [11:44] sleep well ztonzy :) [11:44] I will [11:44] u 2 === encKe` [~encKe`@ppp-65-67-227-161.ded.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === Sparhawk_ [~sparhawk@c-24-14-121-93.client.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:45] so, are you all running kubuntu? [11:45] Pretty much, yes. [11:46] anybody else have any ideas about modprobe fatal errors [11:47] ooppps sorry wrong room [11:47] well, I consider trying it [11:47] but I need to upgrade to hoary first right? [11:48] Pointwood: are you on Warty? [11:50] yes [11:50] You can upgrade straight to Kubuntu [11:50] which is hoary, yes. [11:50] well I've added some packages from other repositores :) [11:50] but basically, I'm running warty [11:50] k === Roey is now known as WorkRoey [11:51] Pointwood: Warty is very behind package-wise; Hoary is much better. :P [11:52] I very much consider upgrading :) [11:52] You got a good Internet connection? [11:52] yes :) === Telep [~telep@dsl-tregw3hb8.dial.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [11:53] 2560/768 :) [11:53] dsl [11:53] Very nice; should be a nice quick download. [11:53] yeah === xenonite [~xenon@ulm9-d9bb354c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:54] okay, well maybe I should start by upgrading to hoary [11:54] hi, shortt question: [11:54] Pointwood: I think that would be a very good idea, yes. [11:54] the kubuntu live cd is not really localized, what is with the final? === dimmak [~rroper@lsanca1-ar55-4-65-118-030.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:57] can someone help me configure kubuntu so my 2405fpw display works... any help is greatly appreciated [11:58] i am so impressed with everything working just fine on my laptop... i was happy to destroy my fedora core 3 installation for a nice kubuntu one... everything seems wonderful... i'll just be happy to remedy this display issue