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sabmocanyone awake?07:16
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froudAfrican Greetings09:05
Kinnisonfroud.09:06
froudmorning enrico09:06
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froudKinnison: hi09:06
froudOK, ideas wanted dudes09:06
KinnisonWhat does that mean for you?09:06
Kinnison(being capped)09:07
froudI have done docs for Ubuntu Update Manager09:07
froudKinnison: yeah Telscum cap the DSL when you pass 3GB09:09
froudKinnison: slllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww mooooooooooooooooooooooooooottttttttion09:09
froudNow Update Manager has moved to gnome cvs09:09
froudproblem is I documented it on Ubuntu09:09
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froudquestion, how to keep the doc Ubuntu specific and neutral for GNOME09:10
froudouch did anyone get what I just wrote?09:11
sabmocwould someone like to help me get started on working with the doc team?09:11
froudsabmoc: sure09:11
sabmocok, let me tell you where and what I am09:11
froudOK09:11
sabmocI've read all the wiki pages on the docteam and howtogetstartedblahblahblah. I have used cvs but not svn yet. Dont think that should be too difficult.09:12
sabmocI have read parts of the DocBook guide09:12
froudeasy stuff09:12
froudgood09:12
sabmocI would like to learn more DocBook, and help the doc team if I can.09:13
froudgood09:13
sabmocThat is all.09:13
froudwhat would you like to know next09:13
sabmochmm.. where do I start? Have any tasks that need taskers?09:13
sabmoctaskee's?09:14
froudwell we are about to tag for release09:14
sabmocyes, but I think that a good thing09:14
froudso not much writing is happening.09:14
sabmocah ok09:14
froudyes09:14
froudhowever, you should look at the following documents09:14
sabmocThis way I will see the breazy release from start to finish09:15
froudand see how you can contribute for the next release 09:15
sabmocfroud, will I need to actually run the unstable release? 09:15
froudlook at User Guide, Admin Guide09:15
froudare you running Hoary now09:16
sabmocyes, but when breazy comes out I dont plan to switch until it is very near release.09:16
froudnext release is grumpy, no?09:16
froudthen comes breazy09:17
sabmocOh!09:17
sabmocok, well s/breazy/grumpy/;09:17
froudWell same diff09:17
froudnormally, yes you run the next release from the devel 09:17
sabmocfroud, hmm.. 09:18
froudhowever, not everything in those guides will require changes09:18
froudto grumpy09:18
froudone place to look if you want to stay on hoary is the FAQ Guide09:18
sabmocIm sort of planning to buy another computer, maybe if I do then Ill install grumpy, but otherwise I really need a stable desktop.09:19
froudit is currently at warty09:20
froudand needs updaating to hoary09:20
froudI believe that Corey was gonna look at that09:20
froudhe is not here now09:20
froudhowever, the last meeting notes will give you an idea09:20
sabmocThe notes are posted to the mailing list?09:20
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sabmocThe notes are posted to the mailing list?09:21
froudsorry i may disappear and reappear09:21
sabmocI noticed :)09:21
froudmy line has been capped09:21
sabmocThats strange, what does that mean, upload limits?09:21
froudI would start looking at all the docs and thinking what I can and want to do09:22
sabmocOk :)09:23
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froudKinnison:  arrrrrg this is what it means for me ;-(09:24
sabmocheh09:24
sabmocpoor guy09:24
Kinnisonfroud: Oh dear09:24
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sabmocget a new provider09:24
froudpoor South Africa09:24
Kinnisonjust waiting for the regrade to complete09:24
froudlemme see if I can find a server on which I can get a shell09:25
froudsabmoc: in co.za it is all the same09:26
sabmocfroud, ok thank you for the information. So basically just read the current documents and wait for the next cycle to begin. I can do that. :)09:26
sabmocfroud, that is most unfortunate :(09:27
froudwhats the command to run bitchx again09:27
sabmocit is `xchat`09:29
sabmocfor me, at least..09:29
froudsabmoc: yes, you can give patches on the docs I mentioned09:29
sabmocwhere do I send them?09:29
sabmoclet me guess09:29
sabmocas attachments to mailing list?09:29
froudyep09:30
sabmockk09:30
sabmocanything else?09:30
sabmocActually, thats enough.09:30
froudBitchX is one of the most well-known IRC clients for the text console. It originated from ircii. It offers a lot of possibilities and settings.09:30
sabmocfroud, thanks goodnight09:31
froudaaaarg non of those hosts have bitchx09:31
froudsabmoc: my pleasure09:31
froudwelcome09:31
froudto09:31
froudthe09:31
frouddocteam09:32
froudOK dudes, I cant stand the pain. I will drop in now and then to see you.09:33
froudc ya later09:33
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abelliciao a tutti10:03
Kinnisonciao abelli10:03
abellienrico: ding dong dang10:03
abelliKinnison: hows life treating you??10:04
Kinnisonabelli: not bad thanks10:04
Kinnisonabelli: you?10:04
abellieverything's ok thank u.10:04
jsgotangcohello hello10:13
abelliciao10:13
jsgotangcociao10:13
jsgotangcohow long does the initial doc source take to dl?10:14
abellijsgotangco: mmmm no idea sorry.10:16
jsgotangcoahh k10:16
abellijsgotangco: i think you better  ask enrico.10:16
jsgotangcoi will i'm just getting my feet wet in docbook at the moment10:20
abelli:)10:22
jsgotangcohmmm10:31
abelliwhat?10:31
jsgotangcoare wiki issues also discussed here?10:32
abellii think so, yes.10:32
jsgotangcowell it seems my wiki entry is deleted?10:32
abellihuh.10:33
abellienrico is the team secretary... you should ask him.10:34
jsgotangcoenrico u there?10:34
jsgotangcowhat the hell10:37
jsgotangcosomeone deleted my wiki10:37
jsgotangcogrr10:37
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mdkehi all08:16
Burgundaviasalut08:17
KinnisonEvening burger08:20
mdkehi Burgundavia Kinnison 08:22
Kinnisonmdke: 08:24
Kinnisons/:/./08:24
mdkelol08:24
mdkesup08:24
mdkesabmoc, ping08:25
Burgundaviawell if sabmoc's ip is correct, he lives very close to me08:25
Burgundaviawhich means he may be a work08:25
mdkewhoops08:25
mdkebrb08:25
mdke(phone)08:25
sabmochello08:35
sabmocsomeone still looking for me?08:35
sabmocmdke, ping08:35
sabmocBurgundavia, ping08:35
Burgundaviano08:36
Burgundaviasabmoc: where do you live?08:36
Burgundaviamdke: was looking for you, but he is on the phone08:37
sabmocBurgundavia, near Vancouver08:37
sabmocBurgundavia, do you live in BC too?08:38
Burgundaviasabmoc: Victoria08:38
sabmocBurgundavia, ah cool, I actually live in sechelt, just across the water from Nanaimo08:38
Burgundaviaif you can, come down to VLUG, April 1208:38
sabmocHey that would be cool!08:39
Burgundaviawe meet 7pm, at UVIC08:39
Burgundaviawww.vlug.org08:39
sabmocIts possible that I could come. Im free on the 12th08:40
Burgundaviado you want to do a hoary presentation together on the 12th?08:40
sabmocgah, no08:40
Burgundavia?08:40
sabmocwell, what would be involved?08:41
Burgundaviado you have a laptop?08:41
sabmocnope08:41
Burgundaviahmm08:41
Burgundaviathen I have to install hoary on something and bring it08:41
Burgundaviaand then we show them the cool new features08:41
Burgundaviaand we talk about where Ubuntu is going08:42
sabmochmm.. but what if Im a clueless twit?08:42
mdkelol08:42
mdkenever08:42
Burgundaviaif you use Ubuntu, you cannot be08:42
mdkehi sabmoc and welcome08:42
sabmochi mdke 08:42
sabmocBurgundavia, hmm08:43
sabmocshould I bring a tent? :D08:43
Burgundaviasabmoc: hmm08:44
BurgundaviaUnfortunately, I live in a room in a house, and thus have no place to put you up08:44
sabmocHow many people usually show up?08:46
Burgundavia~20-3008:46
sabmocsounds really fun08:46
sabmocI'll have to think of where I would stay, since it would have to be an overnight trip for me, and I would have to get from Nanaimo to uvic, probably bus it.08:48
Burgundaviasabmoc: Nanaimo to Vic by bus (ouch, I have done that once)08:49
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sabmochahaha08:50
Burgundaviasabmoc: right08:50
Burgundaviasabmoc: about that getting out more08:50
Burgundaviasabmoc: you want to fly? (my brother is a pilot)08:51
sabmocBurgundavia, I was thinking flying too08:51
mdkesabmoc, i don't believe that canadian team has grown up in 2 days08:51
mdkethat's so cool08:51
Burgundaviahave to counteract the european influence you know08:52
sabmocaye, not to mention those pesky americano's08:52
mdkeheh08:52
mdkeget Burgundavia to join08:52
sabmocBurgundavia, join08:52
sabmochaha08:52
mdkehe's only on 10 or so teams08:53
sabmocpfft08:53
BurgundaviaI am not08:53
BurgundaviaI do stuff for universe and co08:53
Burgundavias/co/doc08:53
Burgundaviathat is it08:53
mdkejust kidding08:53
Burgundavia;)08:53
mdkebut you're an active member of the ubuntu community08:53
BurgundaviaI guess you could say that08:53
sabmocBurgundavia, how much does the ferry to Nanaimo cost?08:54
Burgundavia10, 5 if student08:55
Burgundaviaeach way08:55
Burgundaviafrom bcferries.com08:55
sabmocActually I meant with a vehicle08:55
Burgundaviamore08:55
Burgundavia31.25 each wa08:56
Burgundavias/wa/way08:56
Burgundaviaplus driver08:56
sabmocso 72.50, plus about 35 for the Gibsons ferry, plus gas food and hotel. hmm08:57
Burgundaviahmm08:57
sabmocouch08:57
sabmochaha08:57
Burgundaviait doesn't have an airport, does it?08:58
sabmocI'll check the rates for a float plane, next to where I work is a float airline08:59
Burgundaviaah08:59
Burgundaviagoing to be more08:59
sabmocthey've given me free rides before08:59
sabmocmaybe we can work something out08:59
sabmocIts funny that I've never been to Vancouver Island, yet I've been all over BC's interior.09:01
Burgundaviawhat do you do as a day job?09:02
sabmocI used to fix photocopiers for sharp, but now I am in a transition taking over the family business from my father. We own a restaurant.09:02
Burgundaviaah09:02
sabmocSo basically Im a cook.09:03
BurgundaviaI am currently enjoying being unemployed09:03
Burgundavialeft my job about 2 weeks ago09:03
sabmocBurgundavia, lucky bugger09:03
Burgundaviaused to work for www.microserve.ca09:03
Burgundaviadoing windows crap09:03
sabmocah cool09:03
sabmocBurgundavia, I worked for Stream in Chiliwack for a while doing tech support09:03
sabmocBurgundavia, are you going to school right now?09:04
Burgundaviawent to CDI09:04
BurgundaviaI was hired straight out of CDI last Sept09:04
Burgundaviawas kind of nice09:04
sabmocBurgundavia, wow09:04
Burgundaviathen I realized that I was killing myself doing the job09:05
sabmocBurgundavia, what did you take at cdi?09:05
Burgundaviaand wasn't having much fun doing it09:05
Burgundavianetwork and internet security specialist09:05
Burgundaviabasically msce+security09:05
Burgundaviathought I don't have the certs09:05
sabmocBurgundavia, nice, you're not going to believe this but I went to CDI for a short time as well.09:05
Burgundaviawhat did you take?09:06
sabmocBurgundavia, I didnt like it though, I was taking programming.09:06
Burgundaviahmm09:06
Burgundaviaya09:06
Burgundaviathey only teach m$ stuff09:06
sabmocI droped out before the student loans went though the roof09:06
mdkelol@list09:06
mdke"bug first, then email"09:07
sabmocBurgundavia, maybe you had desent teachers but when I was there all I did was read, there was almost no personal instruction going on at all, and I just figured why pay for this when I can do it myself for free.09:08
BurgundaviaI didn't get much is the way of personal stuff09:08
Burgundaviabut I did quite well09:08
sabmocthats cool09:08
Burgundaviathe instructor really really knew his stuff through09:08
Burgundaviathough09:08
Burgundaviathat helped09:09
sabmocin hind site I probably should have finished it, just for the sake of finishing09:09
Burgundaviahey, water over the dam09:09
sabmocour instructor had her own software company and was making a killing on some contracts, i dont think she really cared about her teaching job but its tuff to find qualified programmers willing to teach.09:10
sabmocBurgundavia, yeah, doesnt really matter, I've taken a few classes at BCIT and Im taking another one next term.09:11
Burgundaviacdi pays like shit too09:11
sabmocBurgundavia, probably, they have to finance to advertisments somehow.09:12
sabmocs/to/those/;09:12
sabmocoh no, gmail is down09:15
Burgundaviasabmoc: no, its not09:16
Burgundaviasabmoc: however, it was down for me09:16
Burgundaviasabmoc: I suspect rolling server outages09:16
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