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| sabmoc | anyone awake? | 07:16 |
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| froud | African Greetings | 09:05 |
| Kinnison | froud. | 09:06 |
| froud | morning enrico | 09:06 |
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| froud | Kinnison: hi | 09:06 |
| froud | OK, ideas wanted dudes | 09:06 |
| Kinnison | What does that mean for you? | 09:06 |
| Kinnison | (being capped) | 09:07 |
| froud | I have done docs for Ubuntu Update Manager | 09:07 |
| froud | Kinnison: yeah Telscum cap the DSL when you pass 3GB | 09:09 |
| froud | Kinnison: slllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww mooooooooooooooooooooooooooottttttttion | 09:09 |
| froud | Now Update Manager has moved to gnome cvs | 09:09 |
| froud | problem is I documented it on Ubuntu | 09:09 |
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| froud | question, how to keep the doc Ubuntu specific and neutral for GNOME | 09:10 |
| froud | ouch did anyone get what I just wrote? | 09:11 |
| sabmoc | would someone like to help me get started on working with the doc team? | 09:11 |
| froud | sabmoc: sure | 09:11 |
| sabmoc | ok, let me tell you where and what I am | 09:11 |
| froud | OK | 09:11 |
| sabmoc | I've read all the wiki pages on the docteam and howtogetstartedblahblahblah. I have used cvs but not svn yet. Dont think that should be too difficult. | 09:12 |
| sabmoc | I have read parts of the DocBook guide | 09:12 |
| froud | easy stuff | 09:12 |
| froud | good | 09:12 |
| sabmoc | I would like to learn more DocBook, and help the doc team if I can. | 09:13 |
| froud | good | 09:13 |
| sabmoc | That is all. | 09:13 |
| froud | what would you like to know next | 09:13 |
| sabmoc | hmm.. where do I start? Have any tasks that need taskers? | 09:13 |
| sabmoc | taskee's? | 09:14 |
| froud | well we are about to tag for release | 09:14 |
| sabmoc | yes, but I think that a good thing | 09:14 |
| froud | so not much writing is happening. | 09:14 |
| sabmoc | ah ok | 09:14 |
| froud | yes | 09:14 |
| froud | however, you should look at the following documents | 09:14 |
| sabmoc | This way I will see the breazy release from start to finish | 09:15 |
| froud | and see how you can contribute for the next release | 09:15 |
| sabmoc | froud, will I need to actually run the unstable release? | 09:15 |
| froud | look at User Guide, Admin Guide | 09:15 |
| froud | are you running Hoary now | 09:16 |
| sabmoc | yes, but when breazy comes out I dont plan to switch until it is very near release. | 09:16 |
| froud | next release is grumpy, no? | 09:16 |
| froud | then comes breazy | 09:17 |
| sabmoc | Oh! | 09:17 |
| sabmoc | ok, well s/breazy/grumpy/; | 09:17 |
| froud | Well same diff | 09:17 |
| froud | normally, yes you run the next release from the devel | 09:17 |
| sabmoc | froud, hmm.. | 09:18 |
| froud | however, not everything in those guides will require changes | 09:18 |
| froud | to grumpy | 09:18 |
| froud | one place to look if you want to stay on hoary is the FAQ Guide | 09:18 |
| sabmoc | Im sort of planning to buy another computer, maybe if I do then Ill install grumpy, but otherwise I really need a stable desktop. | 09:19 |
| froud | it is currently at warty | 09:20 |
| froud | and needs updaating to hoary | 09:20 |
| froud | I believe that Corey was gonna look at that | 09:20 |
| froud | he is not here now | 09:20 |
| froud | however, the last meeting notes will give you an idea | 09:20 |
| sabmoc | The notes are posted to the mailing list? | 09:20 |
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| sabmoc | The notes are posted to the mailing list? | 09:21 |
| froud | sorry i may disappear and reappear | 09:21 |
| sabmoc | I noticed :) | 09:21 |
| froud | my line has been capped | 09:21 |
| sabmoc | Thats strange, what does that mean, upload limits? | 09:21 |
| froud | I would start looking at all the docs and thinking what I can and want to do | 09:22 |
| sabmoc | Ok :) | 09:23 |
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| froud | Kinnison: arrrrrg this is what it means for me ;-( | 09:24 |
| sabmoc | heh | 09:24 |
| sabmoc | poor guy | 09:24 |
| Kinnison | froud: Oh dear | 09:24 |
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| sabmoc | get a new provider | 09:24 |
| froud | poor South Africa | 09:24 |
| Kinnison | just waiting for the regrade to complete | 09:24 |
| froud | lemme see if I can find a server on which I can get a shell | 09:25 |
| froud | sabmoc: in co.za it is all the same | 09:26 |
| sabmoc | froud, ok thank you for the information. So basically just read the current documents and wait for the next cycle to begin. I can do that. :) | 09:26 |
| sabmoc | froud, that is most unfortunate :( | 09:27 |
| froud | whats the command to run bitchx again | 09:27 |
| sabmoc | it is `xchat` | 09:29 |
| sabmoc | for me, at least.. | 09:29 |
| froud | sabmoc: yes, you can give patches on the docs I mentioned | 09:29 |
| sabmoc | where do I send them? | 09:29 |
| sabmoc | let me guess | 09:29 |
| sabmoc | as attachments to mailing list? | 09:29 |
| froud | yep | 09:30 |
| sabmoc | kk | 09:30 |
| sabmoc | anything else? | 09:30 |
| sabmoc | Actually, thats enough. | 09:30 |
| froud | BitchX is one of the most well-known IRC clients for the text console. It originated from ircii. It offers a lot of possibilities and settings. | 09:30 |
| sabmoc | froud, thanks goodnight | 09:31 |
| froud | aaaarg non of those hosts have bitchx | 09:31 |
| froud | sabmoc: my pleasure | 09:31 |
| froud | welcome | 09:31 |
| froud | to | 09:31 |
| froud | the | 09:31 |
| froud | docteam | 09:32 |
| froud | OK dudes, I cant stand the pain. I will drop in now and then to see you. | 09:33 |
| froud | c ya later | 09:33 |
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| abelli | ciao a tutti | 10:03 |
| Kinnison | ciao abelli | 10:03 |
| abelli | enrico: ding dong dang | 10:03 |
| abelli | Kinnison: hows life treating you?? | 10:04 |
| Kinnison | abelli: not bad thanks | 10:04 |
| Kinnison | abelli: you? | 10:04 |
| abelli | everything's ok thank u. | 10:04 |
| jsgotangco | hello hello | 10:13 |
| abelli | ciao | 10:13 |
| jsgotangco | ciao | 10:13 |
| jsgotangco | how long does the initial doc source take to dl? | 10:14 |
| abelli | jsgotangco: mmmm no idea sorry. | 10:16 |
| jsgotangco | ahh k | 10:16 |
| abelli | jsgotangco: i think you better ask enrico. | 10:16 |
| jsgotangco | i will i'm just getting my feet wet in docbook at the moment | 10:20 |
| abelli | :) | 10:22 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm | 10:31 |
| abelli | what? | 10:31 |
| jsgotangco | are wiki issues also discussed here? | 10:32 |
| abelli | i think so, yes. | 10:32 |
| jsgotangco | well it seems my wiki entry is deleted? | 10:32 |
| abelli | huh. | 10:33 |
| abelli | enrico is the team secretary... you should ask him. | 10:34 |
| jsgotangco | enrico u there? | 10:34 |
| jsgotangco | what the hell | 10:37 |
| jsgotangco | someone deleted my wiki | 10:37 |
| jsgotangco | grr | 10:37 |
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| mdke | hi all | 08:16 |
| Burgundavia | salut | 08:17 |
| Kinnison | Evening burger | 08:20 |
| mdke | hi Burgundavia Kinnison | 08:22 |
| Kinnison | mdke: | 08:24 |
| Kinnison | s/:/./ | 08:24 |
| mdke | lol | 08:24 |
| mdke | sup | 08:24 |
| mdke | sabmoc, ping | 08:25 |
| Burgundavia | well if sabmoc's ip is correct, he lives very close to me | 08:25 |
| Burgundavia | which means he may be a work | 08:25 |
| mdke | whoops | 08:25 |
| mdke | brb | 08:25 |
| mdke | (phone) | 08:25 |
| sabmoc | hello | 08:35 |
| sabmoc | someone still looking for me? | 08:35 |
| sabmoc | mdke, ping | 08:35 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, ping | 08:35 |
| Burgundavia | no | 08:36 |
| Burgundavia | sabmoc: where do you live? | 08:36 |
| Burgundavia | mdke: was looking for you, but he is on the phone | 08:37 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, near Vancouver | 08:37 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, do you live in BC too? | 08:38 |
| Burgundavia | sabmoc: Victoria | 08:38 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, ah cool, I actually live in sechelt, just across the water from Nanaimo | 08:38 |
| Burgundavia | if you can, come down to VLUG, April 12 | 08:38 |
| sabmoc | Hey that would be cool! | 08:39 |
| Burgundavia | we meet 7pm, at UVIC | 08:39 |
| Burgundavia | www.vlug.org | 08:39 |
| sabmoc | Its possible that I could come. Im free on the 12th | 08:40 |
| Burgundavia | do you want to do a hoary presentation together on the 12th? | 08:40 |
| sabmoc | gah, no | 08:40 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 08:40 |
| sabmoc | well, what would be involved? | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | do you have a laptop? | 08:41 |
| sabmoc | nope | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | then I have to install hoary on something and bring it | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | and then we show them the cool new features | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | and we talk about where Ubuntu is going | 08:42 |
| sabmoc | hmm.. but what if Im a clueless twit? | 08:42 |
| mdke | lol | 08:42 |
| mdke | never | 08:42 |
| Burgundavia | if you use Ubuntu, you cannot be | 08:42 |
| mdke | hi sabmoc and welcome | 08:42 |
| sabmoc | hi mdke | 08:42 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, hmm | 08:43 |
| sabmoc | should I bring a tent? :D | 08:43 |
| Burgundavia | sabmoc: hmm | 08:44 |
| Burgundavia | Unfortunately, I live in a room in a house, and thus have no place to put you up | 08:44 |
| sabmoc | How many people usually show up? | 08:46 |
| Burgundavia | ~20-30 | 08:46 |
| sabmoc | sounds really fun | 08:46 |
| sabmoc | I'll have to think of where I would stay, since it would have to be an overnight trip for me, and I would have to get from Nanaimo to uvic, probably bus it. | 08:48 |
| Burgundavia | sabmoc: Nanaimo to Vic by bus (ouch, I have done that once) | 08:49 |
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| sabmoc | hahaha | 08:50 |
| Burgundavia | sabmoc: right | 08:50 |
| Burgundavia | sabmoc: about that getting out more | 08:50 |
| Burgundavia | sabmoc: you want to fly? (my brother is a pilot) | 08:51 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, I was thinking flying too | 08:51 |
| mdke | sabmoc, i don't believe that canadian team has grown up in 2 days | 08:51 |
| mdke | that's so cool | 08:51 |
| Burgundavia | have to counteract the european influence you know | 08:52 |
| sabmoc | aye, not to mention those pesky americano's | 08:52 |
| mdke | heh | 08:52 |
| mdke | get Burgundavia to join | 08:52 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, join | 08:52 |
| sabmoc | haha | 08:52 |
| mdke | he's only on 10 or so teams | 08:53 |
| sabmoc | pfft | 08:53 |
| Burgundavia | I am not | 08:53 |
| Burgundavia | I do stuff for universe and co | 08:53 |
| Burgundavia | s/co/doc | 08:53 |
| Burgundavia | that is it | 08:53 |
| mdke | just kidding | 08:53 |
| Burgundavia | ;) | 08:53 |
| mdke | but you're an active member of the ubuntu community | 08:53 |
| Burgundavia | I guess you could say that | 08:53 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, how much does the ferry to Nanaimo cost? | 08:54 |
| Burgundavia | 10, 5 if student | 08:55 |
| Burgundavia | each way | 08:55 |
| Burgundavia | from bcferries.com | 08:55 |
| sabmoc | Actually I meant with a vehicle | 08:55 |
| Burgundavia | more | 08:55 |
| Burgundavia | 31.25 each wa | 08:56 |
| Burgundavia | s/wa/way | 08:56 |
| Burgundavia | plus driver | 08:56 |
| sabmoc | so 72.50, plus about 35 for the Gibsons ferry, plus gas food and hotel. hmm | 08:57 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 08:57 |
| sabmoc | ouch | 08:57 |
| sabmoc | haha | 08:57 |
| Burgundavia | it doesn't have an airport, does it? | 08:58 |
| sabmoc | I'll check the rates for a float plane, next to where I work is a float airline | 08:59 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 08:59 |
| Burgundavia | going to be more | 08:59 |
| sabmoc | they've given me free rides before | 08:59 |
| sabmoc | maybe we can work something out | 08:59 |
| sabmoc | Its funny that I've never been to Vancouver Island, yet I've been all over BC's interior. | 09:01 |
| Burgundavia | what do you do as a day job? | 09:02 |
| sabmoc | I used to fix photocopiers for sharp, but now I am in a transition taking over the family business from my father. We own a restaurant. | 09:02 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 09:02 |
| sabmoc | So basically Im a cook. | 09:03 |
| Burgundavia | I am currently enjoying being unemployed | 09:03 |
| Burgundavia | left my job about 2 weeks ago | 09:03 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, lucky bugger | 09:03 |
| Burgundavia | used to work for www.microserve.ca | 09:03 |
| Burgundavia | doing windows crap | 09:03 |
| sabmoc | ah cool | 09:03 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, I worked for Stream in Chiliwack for a while doing tech support | 09:03 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, are you going to school right now? | 09:04 |
| Burgundavia | went to CDI | 09:04 |
| Burgundavia | I was hired straight out of CDI last Sept | 09:04 |
| Burgundavia | was kind of nice | 09:04 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, wow | 09:04 |
| Burgundavia | then I realized that I was killing myself doing the job | 09:05 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, what did you take at cdi? | 09:05 |
| Burgundavia | and wasn't having much fun doing it | 09:05 |
| Burgundavia | network and internet security specialist | 09:05 |
| Burgundavia | basically msce+security | 09:05 |
| Burgundavia | thought I don't have the certs | 09:05 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, nice, you're not going to believe this but I went to CDI for a short time as well. | 09:05 |
| Burgundavia | what did you take? | 09:06 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, I didnt like it though, I was taking programming. | 09:06 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 09:06 |
| Burgundavia | ya | 09:06 |
| Burgundavia | they only teach m$ stuff | 09:06 |
| sabmoc | I droped out before the student loans went though the roof | 09:06 |
| mdke | lol@list | 09:06 |
| mdke | "bug first, then email" | 09:07 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, maybe you had desent teachers but when I was there all I did was read, there was almost no personal instruction going on at all, and I just figured why pay for this when I can do it myself for free. | 09:08 |
| Burgundavia | I didn't get much is the way of personal stuff | 09:08 |
| Burgundavia | but I did quite well | 09:08 |
| sabmoc | thats cool | 09:08 |
| Burgundavia | the instructor really really knew his stuff through | 09:08 |
| Burgundavia | though | 09:08 |
| Burgundavia | that helped | 09:09 |
| sabmoc | in hind site I probably should have finished it, just for the sake of finishing | 09:09 |
| Burgundavia | hey, water over the dam | 09:09 |
| sabmoc | our instructor had her own software company and was making a killing on some contracts, i dont think she really cared about her teaching job but its tuff to find qualified programmers willing to teach. | 09:10 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, yeah, doesnt really matter, I've taken a few classes at BCIT and Im taking another one next term. | 09:11 |
| Burgundavia | cdi pays like shit too | 09:11 |
| sabmoc | Burgundavia, probably, they have to finance to advertisments somehow. | 09:12 |
| sabmoc | s/to/those/; | 09:12 |
| sabmoc | oh no, gmail is down | 09:15 |
| Burgundavia | sabmoc: no, its not | 09:16 |
| Burgundavia | sabmoc: however, it was down for me | 09:16 |
| Burgundavia | sabmoc: I suspect rolling server outages | 09:16 |
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