[12:03] xenonite: it is localized for as many languages as we could fit [12:03] xenonite: which one did you try? [12:05] apokryphos: after changing sources.list (taken from this: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary/view?searchterm=hoary%20upgrading ), the command I need to issue is apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade ? [12:06] Pointwood: that will get you hoary [12:06] cool === Pointwood starts... [12:06] 8) [12:07] 675 upgraded, 163 newly installed, 28 to remove and 1 not upgraded. [12:07] 7 not fully installed or removed. [12:07] Need to get 268MB/478MB of archives. [12:07] After unpacking 251MB of additional disk space will be used. [12:07] will take some time :) [12:07] Heh, yup. For all the details and to know what you're doing, check the "installingKDE" article on the wiki [12:08] it estimates ~15 min. to download it [12:08] will do [12:08] sweet [12:09] hopefully I'll end up with something that's not completely broken :p [12:10] apt upgrades have generally gone very well, as far as I've seen === apokryphos is off for a bath [12:10] yeah, that's what I hear :) [12:10] :) [12:10] let me know if you have any more problems/questions [12:10] thx === apokryphos is now known as apokaway [12:10] I'll go read up on kubuntu :) [12:11] kubuntu installed nicely [12:14] i am gonna try this: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/RreprobeMonitor/view?searchterm=resolution ...for my dell 2405fpw issue... If I am successful, I will be sure to tell. [12:15] i should probably apt-get and do the nvidia driver installation too in recovery mode === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:18] can anyone help me with my nvidia card === dreamwave [~dreamwave@69-163-64-118.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:20] maybe me... what is your problem? [12:20] i have installed the nvidia drivers un ubuntu but now that i am in Kubuntu the nvidia control panel; doesn't open [12:21] not a real loss [12:21] lol [12:21] try running it from a terminal and see what errors you get. [12:23] Geez!!! Im Such a Dub-ass sometimes.... [12:23] i had a typo in the command in the menu =) [12:23] you said that yourself ;) [12:24] lol [12:24] well... good that it is remedied [12:24] and it looks like no one is arguing with you :p [12:24] thanks [12:24] wouldn't have thought of checking the command till you said to run it in a terminal window [12:25] cool [12:25] anyone here know anything about modprobe errors???? [12:25] i am currently doing a reprobe of my monitor to get my dell 2405fpw display working: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/RreprobeMonitor/view?searchterm=resolution [12:26] I followed the instruction on ubuntuguide.org and added pciehp to the blacklist file... but i still get the error: modprobe fatal error inserting pciehp....... device does not exist === LeeJunFan [~junfan@64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:32] the dell 2405fpw is currently probed with id: dell 2405fpw, a max res of 1680x1680, freq: 30-81 56-76, distype: crt .... wrong wrong wrong [12:34] i remember when installing it to my laptop after the first restart i was able to check what the display resolutions would be... i didn't get the same privilege when installing on my desktop... i immediately was presented with a "cannot display" error from my monitor after the first restart === buga is now known as buga-away === Faust [~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:43] no easy work around... i'll just take a break for a while before i go in to manually edit config files === Faust is now known as Mestapheles === apokaway is now known as apokryphos === Mestapheles is now known as Faust === jsubl2 [~jsubl2@209.144.23.220] has joined #kubuntu === Mestapheles [~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu === _b [~b@adsl-68-250-48-64.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === ca_ca [~internet@a19208.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu === Brian_P [~b@adsl-68-250-48-64.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:58] can anyone help me get my nvidia 3d working? I updated the driver with Kynaptic and rebooted and still no 3d... [12:59] anybody home here? lol [01:01] Brian_P: [01:01] hi [01:01] you probably have to edit your xorg.conf [01:01] ok [01:01] I know how to do dthat [01:01] I did for the ati drivers anyway. [01:01] just wasnt sure I needed too [01:02] to [01:02] Thanks Billy [01:02] np. [01:02] hopefully that works for you. [01:02] was going to make a flaming comment, but you quelled my urge [01:02] check the wiki out too. [01:02] :D [01:02] that should have a fairly complete howto on how to get it all set up. [01:02] ok [01:03] where is the wiki? [01:03] which is probably why noone else was saying anything. [01:03] ubuntulinux.org === jsubl2 [~jsubl2@209.144.23.220] has joined #kubuntu [01:03] no one else was saying anything cuz their all dead stiffs :D === FX|Laptop [~FX@c71.10.126.185.stp.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:05] Hello [01:06] I just installed kubuntu through apt and it seems pretty nice [01:06] Couple of questions though. [01:06] Can I get icons for like say the trash can and my home on the desktop and if so how? [01:09] For Home: Right-click > Create New > Link to Location. Then enter /home/user [01:10] duh..........thanks. lol [01:10] For trash, same thing [01:10] link to: trash:/ [01:10] apokryphos: upgrade finished :) [01:10] cool [01:10] I guess I should restart then :) [01:10] yup [01:10] kernel reboot [01:11] there goes my (not so excellent) uptime :p [01:11] how many hours? [01:12] 00:12:37 up 3 days -- not bad, for me. [01:12] 01:12:23 up 17 days, 1:50, 8 users, load average: 1.33, 1.62, 1.64 [01:12] heh [01:13] 8 users? [01:13] weird; mine has just the two. [01:14] I need to find a email notification like gnome has. [01:15] Supported in Kmail [01:15] I use Thunderbird [01:15] you can also have it tell you how many new in systray icon [01:16] Not sure if it has a feature for that; possibly not. [01:16] I've tried to like Evolution, but that was a no go in warty at least [01:16] I'm using Thunderbird [01:17] Evolution is not bad, and Thunderbird isn't too bad if a little simple. Kontact's tight intergration is hard to ignore, though. Kmail is sweet. [01:18] I was trying to live with as many gnome apps as possible since Ubuntu is gnome based :) [01:18] I like Thunderbird [01:19] Sure; whatever floats your boat. :) [01:19] yeah :) [01:19] but if I switch to kubuntu, who knows ;) [01:20] hmm how can I configure systray? [01:21] FX|Laptop: what are you looking to change? [01:21] Well I would like to get some kind of email notification. === xxenon [xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #kubuntu [01:22] oh, you'll have to check w/Thunderbird. Not sure if it has a tray icon, even. === jsubl2 [~jsubl2@209.144.23.220] has joined #kubuntu [01:23] I was looking for something maybe in superkaramba [01:23] Thunderbird has a sound notification, but really doesn't work well. === mainer [~mainer3@bb-205-209-66-76.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:24] where is the faq that gives you the deb sources for w32codecs [01:24] jsubl2: you can't get it from apt? [01:25] really [01:25] apt-get install w32codecs [01:25] FX|Laptop: kde-look.org is your best bet, for that. Though doubtful, as kmail is kde's email client. [01:25] Couldn't find package w32codecs.. i must be missing a line in my sources.list [01:26] jsubl2: yup; one sec, I'll find you the link [01:26] thank you [01:26] www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/restrictedformats [01:26] should be mentioned there [01:26] thanks [01:27] np [01:27] sorry i use debian repositorys at times === Pointwood [~Pointwood@212.242.222.232] has joined #kubuntu === treke|laptop [~ggilbert@tinman.treke.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:36] apokryphos: upgrade seems to have gone resonable well, though I have a sound problem [01:36] no sound? [01:38] I got "system sounds", but I tried playing the net radio I usually listen to with mplayer and that was a no go [01:38] xmms wouldn't play either [01:39] hm, I'm actually pretty bad with hardware ;-). Hmm, are your alsamixer settings alright? [01:39] I have no idea :) [01:40] terminal > alsamixer [01:40] check that, say, Master is up, and PCM.. [01:40] hrm...rythmbox can play [01:40] aha [01:40] It's likely an engine issue, then. === someguy32 [~nachos@129.62.114.189] has joined #kubuntu [01:42] yeah [01:43] Pointwood: not an amaroK fan? [01:43] It's very good. :) [01:43] apokryphos: does it play .asf streaming? ;) [01:44] no idea; I only use it for MP3s. You could check on their site [01:44] this is what I want to play: http://wmsc.dr.dk/e02ch03m?wmcontentbitrate=300000/.wma [01:45] which player plays mms streaming [01:45] ? [01:45] windows media player :/ [01:46] only wmp? [01:46] mplayer can do it too [01:46] Thanks for the help === FX|Laptop [~FX@c71.10.126.185.stp.wi.charter.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:46] no linux-player? [01:46] mplayer is a linux player ;) [01:47] i know but i cannot play mms-links [01:47] some mms-links [01:48] it worked here in mplayer, until I upgrade to hoary [01:48] Not quite sure; might have a plugin etc.. you can try in #amarok -- channel is generally reasonably active. [01:48] k [01:49] however I want to get mplayer to work again anyway [01:49] suffice it to say, they have one of the most active developemtn teams I've ever seen [01:50] Does your mplayer work with other things? Did you install it using the instructions described on the Wiki? [01:50] hrm...where have they put synaptic [01:50] www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/restrictedformats [01:50] and how do I edit the applications menu? [01:50] are u using mozplugger? [01:50] kmenuedit [01:51] I haven't ugraded to kubuntu yet [01:51] u better use mozilla-mplayer [01:51] Pointwood: oh, ok. [01:51] I should prolly ask in #ubuntu :) [01:51] Perhaps. I'm off to bed; late here. :) [01:51] Good luck [01:51] laters [01:51] it's late here too ;) === lymz_ [~lymz@ip68-109-136-240.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === regeya_ [~shane@dialup-4.254.118.220.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu === mainer [~mainer3@bb-205-209-66-76.gwi.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === BROKEN_LADDER [~BROKEN@h-68-164-187-120.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:58] hi... Can anybody here suggest a good CD burning program that will support .iso's === nifgraup [~nifgraup@a54.starfsm.hi.is] has joined #kubuntu === Elsidox [~Elsidox@CPE-69-76-103-192.wi.rr.com] has joined #Kubuntu === BROKEN_LADDER [~BROKEN@h-68-164-187-120.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [03:25] phxguy: k3b seems to be popular === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [03:32] kubuntu shouldn't call it self GNU/Linux [03:32] It doesn't use GNU tool kit [03:32] it doesn't use GNU's DE [03:32] (GNOME) [03:32] It should just be called 'linux' [03:33] or KDE/Linux [03:45] i can't get my multimedia keys to work as keyboard shortcuts. [03:46] BROKEN_LADDER: use ubuntu [03:47] BROKEN_LADDER: kde sucks because they still call it GNU/Linux when they are not using ALL the gnu tools [03:47] they are incorrectly using GNU [03:48] i am in ubuntu [03:48] duh [03:48] kde does suck. [03:49] but i'm banned from #ubuntu [03:49] for some reason [03:51] BROKEN_LADDER: they ban everyone [03:51] BROKEN_LADDER: look at the ban list [03:51] .lol [03:51] bob2 is a ban-a-holic [03:52] BROKEN_LADDER: ask in #gnome on gimpnet\ [03:52] daniels is also a ban-a-holic [03:53] cool. [03:53] lol [03:53] he is who i'm talking to right now. === AnotherData [~AnotherDa@c-67-162-131-213.client.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === AnotherData [~AnotherDa@c-67-162-131-213.client.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:56] i bought this new keyboard because my old m$ keyboard's lights don't work right, and it's from m$. but i dunno about this new one i got. the m$ one has pretty sweet key action. :/ [03:59] BROKEN_LADDER: #gnome [03:59] BROKEN_LADDER: Ignore HostingGeek. What is your problem? [04:00] treke|home: he is a ubuntu user not a stupid kde user [04:00] ubuntu == gnome === encKe` [~encKe`@ppp-70-249-172-43.dsl.mdldtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:02] :) [04:02] lol [04:02] exactly. [04:07] BROKEN_LADDER: i got unbaned w00t [04:07] from where? [04:09] BROKEN_LADDER: sometime i think daniels like making fun of me [04:09] look at this: [04:09] hmm.. [04:09] what about a -b? [04:09] :P [04:09] from where? [04:09] #ubuntu? [04:09] anyway goto go now the same as you.... [04:09] enjoy [04:09] (from /msg) [04:09] jesus. [04:10] --> You are now talking on #ubuntu [04:10] --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to daniels [04:10] that dude has me waiting around to get unbanned. [04:10] --- daniels sets ban on *!*@200.48.233.220 [04:10] he doesn't even know who originally banned me, because he just updated the ban. [04:10] --- daniels removes channel operator status from daniels [04:10] is that you? [04:10] wtf!? [04:10] thats is me [04:10] he's not so friendly eh? === YuriMaru [~kvirc@user-0cevcgv.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:10] And yet he forgot to kick you aswell? silly daniels.. [04:11] BROKEN_LADDER: he teased me [04:12] BROKEN_LADDER: heck i don't even know why he banned me [04:13] is there a way to request kubuntu cd's thru the mail? [04:14] YuriMaru: There probably will be after it's released - but almost certainly not before [04:14] YuriMaru: no because kde sucks [04:14] hehe [04:14] je4d: no there will not be at all [04:14] kde pwns [04:14] YuriMaru: you can get it on the dvd images [04:14] hehe === alm [~babybert@c-24-12-46-249.client.comcast.net] has joined #Kubuntu [04:14] the dvd images include all of main [04:14] would help if this pos could use dvd's [04:14] and kubuntu is also in main [04:15] HostingGeek: ok. "heck i don't even know why he banned me" <-- I do. and and If this channel wasn't sufficiently new that chanserv was sorted out, you'd have been out of here a while ago. [04:16] je4d: what did i do here that need me to be banned? [04:16] je4d: you have even asked me to stop [04:16] if you did i would [04:16] hmm only three people have chanserv access [04:16] HostingGeek: Please stop [04:16] calc: makes sense.. there's three people at canonical working on it [04:17] haggai doesn't work for canonical [04:17] treke|home: ok :P [04:17] BROKEN_LADDER: (you see they asked me to stop) [04:17] i think fooishbar is a bot or something [04:17] fooishbar is almost certainly controlled by daniels.. [04:17] yea === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #kubuntu ["muwhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahhahaha] [04:18] YuriMaru: I suppose it mostly boils down to whether or not the entity paying for the current Ubuntu cds ( Canonical?) decides to push Kubuntu [04:18] aha === mmuzzy [~mmuzzy@ip24-250-44-152.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === berli [~rasch@user-10lf8h9.cable.mindspring.com] has left #kubuntu [] [04:19] I can see why they might not though, to encourage a more predictable platform === Roey [~Roey@pcp04370251pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:23] hi [04:23] what package is the keyboard layouts in? [04:23] *are the [04:23] also, [04:23] who was helping me here earlier.... [04:24] I'll ask in #ubuntu rather. [04:26] I built a kernel, ran "mkinitrd initrd.img-2.6.11.5 2.6.11.5 ; grub-update", and when I booted the new kernel I get this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/OcvP9T58.html === pepsi [~pepsi@72-254-18-19.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:42] http://rafb.net/paste/results/LuhRpJ24.html [04:42] Why is the last raid device appearing differently than the first two ones?? === ttf_ [~tom@p83.129.2.210.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [~jsubl2@209.144.23.220] has joined #kubuntu === hitriko [~hitriko@24.175.245.155] has joined #Kubuntu === kaplanfx [~kaplanfx@c-67-170-193-18.client.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:25] hey guys i just installed Kubuntu and it looks good to me so far [05:25] but i'm having a problem [05:25] i can't login as root [05:25] .. [05:26] sudo passwd [05:26] and change it [05:26] then try using su [05:26] that is how i managed this task [05:28] WOW! awesome man [05:28] thanks [05:28] no prob [05:30] another problem [05:30] (i'm a linux noob man) lol [05:30] where do you go to change your ip and all in kde i know i can change the network file in the shell but how is it done in kde? [05:31] i'm trying to install gaim, i did ./configure and it does it ok but when i go to do "make" it gives me an erroe message === YuriMaru is now known as YuriMaru_bed [05:33] hitriko: why not apt-get install gaim? === YuriMaru_bed [~kvirc@user-0cevcgv.cable.mindspring.com] has left #kubuntu ["damn] [05:33] or use synaptic? === delltony_ [~delltony@c-24-99-11-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:37] huh? [05:37] i don't know anything about that... === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.62] has joined #kubuntu [05:38] kaplanfx: please explain... [05:38] where do you go to change your ip and all in kde i know i can change the network file in the shell but how is it done in kde? [05:39] i go to control panel and network and it says unsupported platform [05:39] kde doesnt have a front end that I know of for doing this [05:39] so you have to use network/interfaces? === dalerisham [~Owner@AC936C0C.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:39] yes [05:40] whats the gtk app that does it ill use it [05:40] join #ubuntu [05:40] i just removed all the stuff from here when i installed kubuntu [05:40] oops [05:41] ok so if there isn't a front in then what the purpose of network interfaces int he control panel? [05:43] it's intended to control network interfaces [05:43] but it doesnt support every distribution === dalerisham [~Owner@AC936C0C.ipt.aol.com] has left #kubuntu [] [05:43] ok [05:44] since we have kubuntu now is anyone gonna modify it so it does? === treke|home doesnt know [05:45] i have installed the reiser4 kernel patch but i still can't mount reiser4 partitions. [05:45] dlooks like they just removed it [05:45] can anyone help? [05:45] since I dont see anything related to interfaces in the control panel === kbitty [~kbitty@60-240-141-4-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === ttf [~tom@p83.129.8.32.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:19] Anyonehere familiar with kdebluetooth??? === chavo [~chavo@181.sub-70-212-24.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:22] Anyonehere familiar with kdebluetooth??? === Rene_S [~rskrodzki@CPE000ae62705a3-CM014490004397.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === jiyuu0|work [~jiyuu0@60.48.217.163] has joined #kubuntu === azuzak [~azuzak@201009179241.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu === stazz [~ville@a80-186-82-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [06:54] Hey... which is the current kde version on kubuntu? [06:54] 3.4 [06:54] really? this fast? [06:55] is kde available through ubuntu's normal package repositories? [06:58] kubuntu and ubuntu use the same package repository... [06:58] right.. so why is it called kubuntu then? [07:00] because there are cds for it that will install kde instead of gnome . [07:01] Think of it like this: mandrake, redhat, etc, do 3 or 4 cd releases with gnome and kde on them. with ubuntu you download one cd if you want gnome or the other cd if you want kde. [07:01] If you decide you want the other one you can pull it down from the repository no problem. [07:02] stazz: in some ways the kde project is a seperate project from the gnome version, even though they share a repository [07:03] right.. right.. [07:04] so, how does the new kde feel like? [07:05] slim === chavo [~chavo@181.sub-70-212-24.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu === landon [~landon@cpe-24-174-81-195.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === landon [~landon@cpe-24-174-81-195.houston.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === pablo928 [~pablo928@az-yuma-cuda1m-26.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === ttf [~tom@p83.129.8.32.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu === Mestapheles [~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu === BROKEN_LADDER [~BROKEN@h-67-101-149-9.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU === pablo928 [~pablo928@az-yuma-cuda1m-26.losaca.adelphia.net] has left #kubuntu [] === ztonzy [~ztonzy@c-b544e055.560-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === underlord [~underlord@c211-30-117-126.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === delltony [~delltony@c-24-99-11-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:49] ok i updated kubuntu now for some reason i see no place to find my files where can i find my files now before i had personal files but now its not on the menu === markc [~markc@CPE-203-45-215-4.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === mindframe [mindframe@ip24-254-49-115.br.br.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === tackat [~tackat@pD95010A3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === John_M [~johnm@cpe-24-167-93-22.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:22] where in the heck is the kde file manager ? === mindframe [mindframe@ip24-254-49-115.br.br.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:25] delltony: konqueror [08:25] understood [08:26] alt-f2 konqueror [08:26] but how the heck do you get it to open the home dir [08:26] on the menu [08:26] as in put it on your menu where you click on it and it opens home dir [08:26] it was once there i updated and not anymore [08:26] ah, ok [08:26] i'm a command type guy but i wanted the gui for that [08:27] if you know how that would be great === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:28] you want to add konqueror back to the k-menu? [08:28] yes [08:28] where when i click on [08:28] it opens home [08:29] actually id like it on that little quick launcher panel actually [08:29] but whichever works [08:30] well, you can at least right click on the panel, choose Add to Panel->Application and then find "Home" or something similar [08:32] its not there thats my point [08:32] oh, sorry [08:32] weird [08:34] dude all that needs to happen is this [08:34] but i don't know the the command [08:34] konqueor open in home [08:34] nothing more nothing less [08:34] i don't know the command to pass it though [08:36] lemme see what my "home" does [08:36] kfmclient openProfile filemanagement [08:36] that's the "Command" that my "Home" executes [08:36] ok === Lano [~bsa@BSN-77-101-47.dsl.siol.net] has left #kubuntu [] [08:37] ok thta works [08:37] now how do i add it to the little quick launch thing [08:38] the panel? [08:38] at the bottom? 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[11:27] membreya: sure [11:28] hrm, according to http://www.kubuntu.org.uk/faq.php I should just need to type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" I'm getting package not found === `TUX`` [~princoscr@host148-12.pool8291.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [11:31] <`TUX``> Administrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing. [11:31] <`TUX``> but are we joking? [11:32] <`TUX``> there is a way to trash sudo [11:33] <`TUX``> kprint crash gnome cups admin has 3 features and we can't use localhost:631 ... [11:33] <`TUX``> is this the ubuntu kubuntu way? [11:34] <`TUX``> to become a gui oriented distro more then mandrake? [11:34] <`TUX``> but mandrake has 5 years of gui administration with mcc .. don't uses somthing like gnome-cups-manager :/ [11:38] membreya: you need to enable the online repositories by editing the /etc/apt/sources.list === membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu === membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:00] psn: what sources are you referring to in the sources.lst? [12:01] remembering that I'm on an amd64 :) [12:02] I already have universe installed [12:02] membreya: hmm well then I don't know as the kubuntu packages are in main [12:02] I just filed a bug report regarding this question, #8053 [12:03] my problem haggai ? [12:03] membreya: yes. Can you show me your sources.list? [12:04] haggai: #flood [12:05] erm [12:05] membreya: you're using warty [12:05] membreya: you need to be on hoary [12:05] haggai: I've just been playing with this, replace the warty with hoary :) [12:05] only just copied and pasted it into my file [12:06] ok haggai ... don't bother about me :) I'm an idjet :) === membreya hides under a rock [12:07] membreya: it still needs the faq entry to be clarified === haggai updates bug [12:07] once I install kubuntu-desktop ...do I just restart? [12:08] there's a good doc somewhere === membreya goes a'lookin :) [12:09] http://www.inwords.co.za/kubuntu/inst/desktop-install.html [12:09] I gotta stop playing with my system on very little sleep [12:09] cute icon :) === remon [~remon@210-64-dsl.ipact.nl] has joined #kubuntu === Dudu678 [~soldando@26.Red-80-25-143.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:13] does any body know why when i mount by using smbmount i get strange characters in file names, but when i do it in konqueror using smb:// i see everything ok? [12:15] probably a character encoding problem [12:16] yup [12:16] but i cannot figure out [12:16] how to solve it [12:17] i've tried specifying in the mounting options [12:17] the charset [12:17] and also in the smb.conf file [12:17] it doesn't matter [12:18] from windows and from konqueror without mounting i see everything ok [12:18] when i mount, it all goes wrong [12:19] i'm using utf-8 in my system, of course [12:20] but the problem is that i have to share files with windows clients [12:22] what smbmount options did you actually try? [12:24] username=lf,password=******,gid=1000,uid=1000,iocharset=iso8859-1 [12:24] and also with iso8859-15 [12:25] in smb.conf i have dos charset = 850 [12:25] unix charset = ISO8859-1 [12:26] how about [12:26] codepage=unicode,iocharset=utf8,unicode [12:27] http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/unicode.html [12:28] I'm no expert but that page seems to explain what is going on [12:30] hmmm... ok [12:30] thank you [12:30] i'll try === Echylo [~Echylo@226-5.241.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu === amiroff [~amiroff@dsl81-214-21642.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi [~shuerlima@212.4.66.156] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi is now known as huerlisi_ === huerlisi_ is now known as huerlisi === huerlisi is now known as huerlisi_ === huerlisi_ is now known as huerlisi === huerlisi [~shuerlima@212.4.66.156] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi [~shuerlima@212.4.66.156] has joined #kubuntu === underlord [~underlord@c211-30-117-126.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:21] is there a way i can stop konqui from asking me if i want to have it remember passwords from html forms that doesnt involve a big hammer or throwing my monitor out of a window? === _chakie [~chakie@tux.adsl.abo.fi] has joined #kubuntu [01:23] underlord: control centre->web browswer->web behaviour-> [ ] Enable completion of forms [01:24] thats allready off === oscarh [~oscar@dynamic-47-27.chl.chalmers.se] has joined #kubuntu [01:25] you would expect that to work, but it seems that doesn't apply to storing username&pass combo's in the kde wallet service, only filling in of random information [01:26] ah [01:27] in kwalletmanager->settings you can either disable kwallet completely, or just disable it for konqueror === oscarh [~oscar@dynamic-47-27.chl.chalmers.se] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu === Blissex [~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu === ggilbert [~ggilbert@69-175-32-221.ventca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === oscar_h [~oscar@dynamic-47-27.chl.chalmers.se] has joined #kubuntu === warthylog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu === Topic for #kubuntu: Preview Released http://www.kubuntu.org.uk/ | Feedback please: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuPreviewComments | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuPreviewKnownProblems === Topic (#kubuntu): set by haggai at Sun Mar 20 10:35:48 2005 === alleeHol [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu === _chakie_ [~chakie@tux.adsl.abo.fi] has joined #kubuntu === apokryphos [~apokrypho@host-84-9-34-128.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === underlord [~underlord@c211-30-117-126.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi_ [~shuerlima@212.4.66.156] has joined #kubuntu === neom2 [neom@neom.ca] has joined #Kubuntu === phed_ [~phed@cm-80.111.239.215.chello.no] has joined #kubuntu [02:11] hi. can I upgrade from debian to kubuntu? === amu [amu@195.227.106.194] has joined #kubuntu === psn [~psn@psn.developer.konversation] has joined #kubuntu [02:11] phed_: it is not recommended; there have been a few success stories, but also quite a few problems around. === Riddell [jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #kubuntu === je4d [~je4d@demantoid.trinhall.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu [02:12] well, so I should just keep my home folder and wipe the rest and install? [02:12] phed_: I recommend doing that, yes. Do you have your /home on a seperate partition? [02:13] no, I don't. but I can probably just rm -R stuff manually. done that before. [02:13] however, I'm a tad fatalistic. how could I do a kubuntu apt-upgrade? [02:14] Why would that mean you're fatalistic ;-) [02:14] phed_: do you mean from Debian? [02:14] yes [02:14] In theory: change your sources.list, apt-get dist-upgrade [02:14] mm, I assume I find a sources list at the website [02:15] You can in fact, yes. www.ubuntilinux.org/wiki/guidetohoary [02:15] also, how successful is it to install stuff from the debian trunk? I mean, are there problems with apt'ing software that aren't in the kubuntu trunk? [02:15] I develop a lot, and tend to use quite a few hairy libs. ;) [02:16] Quite a lot of people have the marillat repository; I do too, and haven't experienced any problems. [02:16] Whoops, that link should have been: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/guidetohoary [02:18] Though, the Ubuntu repository is huge. Practically every single package in Debian is in Ubuntu. Apart from a few "restricted formats", which you just have to add a new repos for. === Glin|Jol [~bobo@66-108-244-133.nyc.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Clintology [~Clint@nr30-69-61-185-210.fuse.net] has joined #kubuntu === _chakie_ is now known as chakie === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu [02:26] apokryphos: yeah, I catched that. yeah, I am using debian on the laptop [02:26] and I think debian isn't as well suited for that task really. [02:26] but for development its excellent at least [02:28] mm, that sources, does that include kde? [02:28] phed_: KDE is now in the main repository, so yes. === ztonzy [~ztonzy@c-f844e055.560-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === teprrr [tpr@rytilahti.developer.kde] has joined #kubuntu [02:30] g'day ztonzy === kaplanfx [~kaplanfx@c-67-170-193-18.client.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:35] apokryphos, hi...I am in just shortly [02:35] Need to get 562MB of archives. After unpacking 81.0MB of additional disk space will be used. [02:35] :) [02:35] <3 apt [02:35] phed_: Let's hope it goes well; no guarantees, though. :) [02:36] yeah. I usually get away with worse ;) [02:37] apokryphos: the last time I gave up when was I tried to upgrade from 2.0 to 2.2 in slackware. on a 200MB partition. [02:37] hah [02:37] Ubuntu is not nearly that light. [02:38] anyone know how to get ubuntu to see a usb modem thats plugged in after boot (usbnet module)? [02:39] apokryphos, any news or fun to tell ? [02:40] Not so much; just reading the comments on slashdot about kubuntu. [02:41] aah, what is it ? [02:41] http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/03/19/2045221.shtml?tid=190&tid=121&tid=106 [02:43] hmm [02:43] have to read later [02:44] Few useless comments, some interesting ones, some silly propaganda. [02:44] heh [02:44] well...later! [02:44] see ya :) === _P_ [~princoscr@host-84-220-132-214.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === dvoid [~dvoid@c83-248-230-17.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu === neom2 is now known as neom [03:20] Is anyone else have problems with very slow konqueror web browsing? I have googled and it seems to be common, but no solutions [03:21] fine here [03:22] Might be worth asking in #kde === garret [~garret@slobber.ruffdogs.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:25] So ubuntu has the tools for handling network interfaces, does kubuntu offer something like this also? [03:25] garret: Yup, knetworkconf. [03:26] great, looking now === _ronny_ [~ronny@pD9EC48F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [03:26] hmmm, not installed by default? [03:27] nope [03:28] nope === WorkRoey is now known as Roey [03:30] wtf, i just got spam in japanese :| [03:30] =) [03:30] awesome [03:30] good morning [03:36] what's the usage apokryphos? [03:36] command [03:36] don't see it popping up as an exectuable, or in menus [03:36] garret: check in kcontrol [03:36] Mornin' Roey [03:36] ahh. gottcha! [03:37] okay, seen this before . . . pick sarge? [03:38] I guess [03:39] k, craches on me going to admin mode :-( [03:40] fonts did the same, I'll get to it using konq [03:41] Re: crash; I have no idea; works fine here.. [03:41] one or two others had problem with going into Admin mode on the forum too [03:41] but no reported crashes [03:42] not a true crash, a loop [03:42] just takes me back to the choice again [03:42] garret: try running kdesu kcontrol, and thenc onfiguring [03:43] are you entering your user password? [03:43] yes [03:43] ah, good idea, get into kcontrol as root and problem is fixed, I like it [03:43] checking [03:45] works, but no control over wireless interfaces :-( [03:46] cool, and uncool [03:46] Does the Gnome one have such a feature? [03:46] yeah, has anybody actually gotten the the "Wireless network" setting to work? [03:47] yes, it control all interfaces for gnome [03:47] including wireless [03:47] I don't know; I suspect there's likely stuff on the Ubuntu forums [03:47] or even the ubu site itself [03:48] I'll take a look, just more of an IRC guy :-) [03:48] same [03:48] that whole "instant gratification" thing :-) [03:50] getting ready to install Kubuntu for 120 users, on two term servers [03:50] now trying to get the laptop stuff figured [03:50] have 10 of those also [03:51] garret: I think it's worth compiling a bug report (with a "recommendation") on wireless configuration with K. [03:51] garret: wow; excellent stuff. Good luck with that. [03:51] thanks, will do the bug report also === kbitty [~kbitty@60-240-141-4-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === noobietux [~noobietux@28.70.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu === noobietux [~noobietux@28.70.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu === Mithsir [~jonas@dsl-082-082-187-002.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:20] Hello! When I click on "Devices" in Konquerer, I get an error dialog box saying "Protocol not supported: devices" (or something like that). What am I missing? [04:23] Or in other words: how do I access my usb-cardreader that used to show up under devices? [04:25] cd /home/your_user_name/usb [04:25] sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /home/your_user_name/usb [04:25] no such file or diirectory. [04:25] oh, ok, I know how to manually mount stuff. but kde used to do that for me (which I liked).... [04:25] create that directory before [04:26] but somehow, since kde 3.4, this doesn't work anymore. [04:26] https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuPreviewKnownProblems [04:26] kde does not do this for you [04:26] its just another daemon [04:27] well, it used to. there were entries for any entry of /etc/fstab in "devices" [04:27] kde was only a front end of the configuration file i think [04:28] make a clean fstab and it will be ok [04:28] does someone use amarok here? [04:28] http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=22042 [04:28] (sorry for my english) [04:29] i moded the kde3.4 wallpapper and dropped the kubuntu logo [04:29] I use amarok [04:30] wich version do you have installed? [04:30] i use xmms or noatun [04:30] or mplayer [04:30] 5.04 [04:30] nice wallpaper kbitty [04:30] want it? [04:30] noobietux: 1.2.1 [04:30] noobietux, I cleaned my fstab, still no luck (do I have to restart some daemon?) [04:31] # amarok --version [04:31] Qt: 3.3.3 [04:31] KDE: 3.4.0 [04:31] amaroK: 1.2.1 [04:31] Mithsir: you haven't deleted your fstab? [04:32] is there a best practice to link kubuntu bugs to kde upstream bugs and vice versa? [04:32] i've got a really annoying bug with amarok: in my collection when i chose an artist/album classification nothing appear [04:32] noobietux, should I delete it? [04:32] Mithsir: no [04:32] noobietux, good :-) [04:33] make correct rules in it an everything will be mounted properly [04:33] Mithsir, http://geocities.com/kasper002003/KDE34_kooby.png [04:34] for kubuntu fans! [04:34] noobietux: did you select the directory to have amaroK import to collection? [04:34] yes, when i classify only by artist it works fine === DarthFrog_ [~rob@S010600036df5148f.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:35] I don't have that problem here; did you get it from the repos? [04:35] but when i choose album only or combined with another rule nothing appears [04:35] apokryphos: yes i think so [04:35] ne one thing this wallpapper i posted is better than default? [04:35] think* [04:36] kbitty, thanks [04:36] noobietux: could you paste the first line output of sudo dpkg -l | grep amarok? [04:36] kbitty, I like it. === dvoid [~dvoid@c-215fe155.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [04:37] ii amarok 1.2.1-0ubuntu5 versatile and easy to use audio player for K [04:37] ty Mithsir [04:37] Yup, definitely from the repositories. No idea why you're getting that error. [04:38] where can i find some kubuntu art work? [04:38] bootsplashes and so on? [04:38] kbitty: The release has just come out; such a site does not exist. [04:39] damn [04:40] well has ne one here got wallpappers or something of their own they made for kubuntu? === ozmighty [~david@144.139.181.201] has joined #kubuntu === DarthFrog_ is now known as Darthfrog [04:49] http://geocities.com/kasper002003/16580-2.png [04:49] good to use as login screen [04:50] :D [04:54] http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=20622 === ricardog [~ricardog@c-24-20-120-253.client.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:08] hi there [05:08] hi [05:08] would anyone like to help a kubuntu noob? [05:09] whats the problem? [05:09] I keep losing sudo-ability [05:09] everyhting is fine until I run kuser [05:10] (trying to add another account) [05:11] then I'm unable to sudo anything after that [05:12] hmmm [05:12] "sudo: no passwd entry for root!" [05:12] i could sudo kuser then exit and still use sudo === Pyre [~Pyre@host-84-9-34-128.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:13] now I'm a little stuck with what I'm able to do [05:13] any suggestions? [05:13] logging in and out does not help [05:13] restarting does not help [05:14] now I can't enable or log in as root === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.246.85] has joined #kubuntu === kqj [~kqj@62-101-126-233.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:19] OK, well thanks for your time, kbitty. I'll keep on hammering my head on the monitor === ricardog [~ricardog@c-24-20-120-253.client.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === bhna [~andreas@p54B830FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === jmki [~jmki@a81-197-235-95.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [05:30] is there any plan for a bootscreen like other distribution (e.g. SuSE) [05:33] Not sure, but you can make your own. [05:35] i read anywhere they developing a new typ of bootsreen [05:42] i use debian bootsplash [05:42] included on the cd [05:42] if i knew how to make the xpm images i will be making them [05:42] bhna join my ircd, if i manage to make a kubuntu one tonight [05:47] kbitty: erm, GIMP? [05:48] yes i can make them in gimp [05:49] i was talking about the tools in gimp is more difficult to use in gimp rather than me making my photoshop art [05:54] kbitty: but at least .XCF is a documented format. === Darthfrog [~rob@S010600036df5148f.vc.shawcable.net] has left #kubuntu ["Bye"] === DarthFrog [~rob@S010600036df5148f.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === dvoid [~dvoid@c-215fe155.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === bhna [~andreas@p54B830FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu [] === installnewb [~jpmyers@adsl-4-247-247.mem.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === buz [~buz@217-162-131-144.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [06:11] interesting === regeya [~shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:12] i was wondering, how do i activate gtk-qt? [06:12] I must have closed the list of people who are in the channel somehow [06:13] what irc client [06:13] see if there's a little grab-bar on the right-hand side of the window [06:13] that happens sometimes with xchat [06:14] Ahhh yes, success [06:14] Thanks [06:14] np :) [06:14] I'm slowly migrating to linux === buz finds this to be the first linux distro that really works for him. props for that [06:15] I'm getting errors when I try to do the apt-get install of Kubuntu over an existing install of Ubuntu [06:15] buz: it's pretty remarkable, isn't it [06:15] jpmyers@ubuntu:~ $ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [06:15] Reading Package Lists... Done [06:15] Building Dependency Tree... Done [06:15] E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop [06:15] yeah it is [06:15] Is that because I need to add more servers to the repisitory? [06:15] are you using hoary sources, installnewb? [06:16] I'm not sure, I'm working on a fresh install of 4.10 warty install. [06:16] i'm usually more the BSD guy but for desktops, BSD is a bit too picky about hardware support [06:16] How can I find out? [06:17] installnewb: well if it's a fresh warty install you're not [06:17] When your name is in yellow, is that a whisper? [06:17] I'm new to x-chat [06:18] It's probably an ordinary highlight, as your nick was mentioned. [06:19] oh i see, thanks [06:20] Is there a way to update Warty to Hoary? [06:23] yes; in /etc/apt/sources.list, iirc all you have to do is change every instance of "warty" to "hoary" [06:23] will it work to simply replace 'warty' with 'hoary' in /etc/apt/sources.list then use apt-get to upgrade my packages? [06:23] then apt-get update [06:23] then upgrade :-) heh [06:26] Should I take the octothorpe off these lines? # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe [06:26] # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe [06:27] I'm new to debian in general [06:28] I'm going to uncomment the universe respositories as I think they may be necessary for me [06:29] installnewb: Yes. And add multiverse to that line, too. [06:29] installnewb: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories [06:30] installnewb: And mentally substitue hoary for warty on that page. [06:30] does multiverse extend my package selection to the typical debian packages? [06:31] installnewb: Mulitverse contains non-free packages that have some restrictions. [06:31] installnewb: Universe will give you only free packages. [06:31] I see, thank you. [06:32] You're welcome. [06:32] And welcome to the Light Side of The Force. :-) [06:33] deb http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories :is this correct? It's saying malformed line [06:33] when i try to update === amiroff [~amiroff@dsl81-214-21642.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #kubuntu [06:35] hello, how can I make ctrl+enter work in konqueror like in firefox? === _ronny_ [~ronny@pD9EC5220.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:39] can someone help me with my External USB Drive? === tackat [~tackat@pD95010A3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu [] === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.94.81.139] has joined #kubuntu [06:55] phxguy: to do what? [06:58] for some reason my maxtor usb harddrive doesn't mount [06:59] does not mount as in "i click and nothing happens" or does not mount as in "I do "mount -something" and I get an error" === DavidH86 [~ask@12-223-132-65.client.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:02] marcusT: It shows up in the media folder and i click on it but i get an error that says mount: can't find /dev/sde1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab [07:02] phxguy: you installed pmount? [07:02] marcusT: how would I know?? [07:03] do I have to install that seperate from the kubunt insntall?// [07:03] phxguy: well, there's a bug out there stating that and the outstanding issues page says it too [07:03] but you're right, you don't have to... reason for people like me to stick around [07:03] phxguy: just apt-get install pmount [07:04] ok doing that now. what does it do (just out of curiosity) [07:04] ... yeah i saw that it doesn't automount in the 'known problems' area [07:05] marcusT: ok it is done downloading/installing [07:05] phxguy: user space mounting... makes it possible that for your hald to tell the userspace that there is a new device that can be mounted [07:05] do a /etc/init.d/dbus restart [07:05] it's dbus-1 [07:06] marcusT: i type: /etc/init.d/dbus restart and i got: /etc/init.d/dbus: No such file or directory [07:06] as I said, it's /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart [07:07] o sorry [07:07] marcusT: It told me permission denied [07:07] then prepend a sudo === treke [~ggilbert@tinman.treke.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:08] ok that time it did what it does It gave me 4 ok to the right [07:08] should i be able to access it now? [07:08] excelent, now try again what you did... [07:08] yepp, you should [07:09] it gove me an error still [07:09] does it say the same thing as before? [07:10] marcusT: The file or folder media:/sde1 does not exist [07:10] phxguy: well, maybe you need to restart kde [07:10] marcusT: do I have to make a folder for each sde device??? [07:10] nope, they'll be created automagically [07:11] marcusT: ok i think i do need to restart because now i cannot even access my home folder or linux drive [07:11] we'll that's something that should not happen... [07:11] marcusT: should i just log out and log back in or should do a full restart?? [07:11] phxguy: sorry, I have to leave... just restart and retry... [07:12] nope, just restart KDE, i.e. logout and login [07:12] alright thanks for your help. cross your fingers :) === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [07:20] guy is there a way to make konqui open a .com site with ctrl+enter shotrcut? === Pyre [~Pyre@host-84-9-34-128.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === peca [~peca@82.202.116.206] has joined #kubuntu [07:50] ok now this is strange [07:50] if I have juk and noatun paused and then unpause noatun, both apps start playing === spiral [~pgarcia@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:51] hi [07:52] anyone using ubuntu on a ppc here ? [07:52] I do [07:55] treke: we wanted to make amarok the default player anyway === treke prefers the juk/noatun combination, but that's just personal preference [07:56] treke: nice... does it work nice ? [07:56] is it a recent one ? [07:56] spiral: works well [07:56] somebody just stole my laptop... [07:56] somewhat recent [07:56] and I want to buy a new one... [07:57] and I thought about buying an ibook [07:57] if you want to run linux, I wouldnt recommend buying an apple laptop [07:57] treke: is it so hard ? [07:57] hard? no [07:57] hardware support just isn't quite there [07:58] and quite likely never will be [07:58] treke: I had lots of problems with my pc laptop... [07:58] spiral: also running it on a ppc [07:58] amu: and you think the same about apple laptops ? [07:58] wireless will probably not ever work, and video performance is pretty poor [07:59] the single mouse button is an annoyance, but there is a way to emulate it other two on a keyboard that works pretty well [08:00] spiral: if you buy an new laptop, your wlan will not work. If you can live with this all other hardware will be supported, at least i run a pcmcia-wlan and a usb-wlan [08:00] spiral: linux on a ppc rocks [08:00] you're also not going to have any support for hardware accelerated opengl [08:01] treke: that would be a real problem if you rendering your own movies [08:02] I know suspend works on the ati based powerbooks, do you know if it works on the nvidias? [08:03] amu: wlan... I need wifi... [08:03] spiral: You can use a pcmcia card if you get a powerbook or a usb dongle [08:03] ah damn... the single mouse button... damn apple [08:03] and no scroll ? [08:03] no scoll wheel [08:03] treke: hmm never tried, i have 3 pb's and 1 ibook, all of then have a ati [08:04] hmmm, is it hard to keep macos & install kubuntu on the same laptop ? [08:04] That's something to look into before getting one [08:04] fairly easy [08:04] spiral: works out of the box [08:05] hmmm, yeah... and bluetooth ? [08:05] cool. I never tried it with ubuntu [08:05] needed the space, so I removed OSX [08:05] so I can't use included wifi modules if they exist ? [08:05] spiral: right [08:05] you can't use the built in wireless [08:05] spiral: i told you before all hardware is supported except extreme wireless === edulix [~edulix@136.Red-80-59-147.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:06] amu: what is extreme wireless ? airport thing ? [08:06] yes [08:06] perhaps some day a driver will exist [08:06] but I wouldn't count on it happening [08:06] treke: guess never :) [08:06] are they mac laptops wifi powered (no airport) ? [08:07] I think all of the current macs use airport extreme [08:07] which is one of the broadcom chipsets [08:07] treke: all right [08:08] if you want osx and linux then an apple is a good choice [08:08] I just don't think it's the best way to go for a linux only machine === P229 [~P229@pool-138-88-147-61.esr.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:14] treke: I have to use office for my school... [08:14] and can't stand windows anymore... [08:14] So I thought about apple... [08:16] I guess it comes down to preference [08:16] I'd rather deal with windows if I needed something like office [08:17] since linux would suit me better on the x86 hardware [08:17] and it's my primary use of the laptop === hoschbert [~hoschi@p548307C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:20] StarOffice seems much more compatible with Word formatting, if that's the issue [08:21] I've had some really bad experiences with openoffice and excell [08:21] I really dont trust it any more :) [08:21] P229: that would be difficult seeing as it is exactly the same codebase as OOo [08:22] haggai: well, maybe they just have the default formattings set differently. [08:23] haggai: I didn't mess around with it too much, so all I know is that OpenOffice doesn't correctly open some documents created in Word, but StarOffice (in Solaris 10) handled them ok [08:28] hi! what can I do with this problem: xorg causes a lag of about 4 seconds... typing top shows xorg using a lot of cpu-power, in X everything is "paused".. any idea? === huerlisi [~shuerlima@212-41-71-106.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has joined #kubuntu [09:02] hi all. Is there a way to get volumes mounting automatically with kubuntu? [09:02] do you have an equivalent to gnome-volume-manager [09:03] hmm, I think no, not yet [09:03] ok np [09:03] not sure about this though... === MindZEye [~MZE@seanparsons.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:11] salut tout le monde [09:11] Hello here === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:12] salut [09:12] does anyone know how to add a mirror's gpg key ? [09:12] hrmm, well you'd need to know the key first [09:13] i have the key but i don't know what to do with it [09:13] it is for this repository : http://archive.kalyxo.org/ === naerex [~naerex@81.56.207.53] has joined #kubuntu [09:19] hi i tested kubuntu and its GREAT !! (im french) ;) [09:19] formidable [09:19] Riddell> tu parles francais ? [09:20] ubuntu is good too but i never like gnome === LeeJunFan [~junfan@64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:22] naerex: un petit peux [09:22] mys fysiikkaa, matikkaa ja yleisesti matemaattisluonnontieteellisi aineita on melko helppo pst lukemaan yliopistoon, jos prjsi edes keskinkertaisesti lukiossa [09:22] naerex: un petit peut [09:22] oops [09:23] hmm [09:23] arr, silly split windows :D [09:23] kuduntu c'est vraiment bien [09:23] noobietux> ouais :) [09:23] tout fait [09:23] noobietux> je vais enfin passer en Full Linux ;) [09:24] :) [09:24] Kubuntu c'est bon mangez en [09:24] lol [09:25] noobietux: bon mangez? good to eat? [09:25] pour KDE en francais on fait comment par contre ? === bhna [~andreas@p54B803B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:25] Riddell: it's a way of saying that it is a good thing [09:26] quelle bizarre [09:26] j'ai DL ca --> kde-i18n-3.4.0.tar.bz2 [09:26] with apt-get [09:26] sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-fr [09:26] no i use kynaptic but this file i DL it with konqueror === mighty [~david@happ-p-144-134-61-55.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [09:28] oui kde-i18n etre fais cette semain j'espaire [09:28] Riddell: it is done i've already installed it [09:29] yes me too [09:29] 250Mo [09:29] mais kde-i18n 3.4 n'est pas en kubuntu maintainant [09:30] Riddell> tu veux dire : pas dans le depos ? === dimma1 [~dimmak@lsanca1-ar55-4-65-118-030.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:32] Riddell: a fonctionne chez moi [09:32] noobietux> avec apt-get ? [09:32] oui [09:32] noobietux> ca ne derange pas le system de faire comme ca ? [09:32] sudo apt-get update avant [09:32] is this a french channel? [09:33] no [09:33] non :) [09:33] nein? [09:33] bhna> no but 2 french speak in french its easely ;) [09:33] naerex: apt-get is the default util for installing packages [09:34] but i cant understand [09:34] noobietux> kynaptic use apt-get ? [09:34] bhna> true [09:34] yes i think [09:34] bhna> sorry :) [09:34] kynaptic is a front end [09:35] noobietux> you don't use it ? [09:35] sometimes, when i don't know the precise name of the package [09:37] noobietux> when i create an user with Kuser it crash [09:37] why don't you use ctrl+f [09:37] naerex: i am quite new to linux [09:38] you can search name summary and description [09:38] bhna> for the bug ? [09:39] so who should i ask to get the 2405fpw monitor working by default without having to manually edit the xorg.conf file? [09:39] i thought this would be the first absolutely perfect distro for me since it works spectacularly on my laptop... just the desktop display doesn't work by default [09:40] everything else is perfect... i am quite impressed [09:40] what is 2405fpw ? [09:40] dell's 24" widescreen display [09:40] drimma1: what's the problem? [09:40] flatpanel... gets detected as a crt when probed [09:40] i don't know. the resolution is special ? [09:41] just doesn't work unless i edit the xorg.conf myself [09:41] puh, Angel on menny oudoksi [09:41] 1920 x 1200 === dorogoy [~inexile@80-28-19-197.adsl.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:41] kubuntu is perfect for day to day use :) [09:41] quite so [09:41] that is the native resolution [09:41] it can do lower no problem... it is that the refresh rate isn't detected properly... so it won't display after the first restart during installation [09:41] in french we says: sans se prendre la tete ;) [09:42] so i have to use recovery mode or ctrl-alt-FX to a different console to edit the xorg.conf file [09:43] dimma1> refresh is not 60hz ? [09:43] not by default [09:43] it gets detected as a typical crt [09:43] dimma1: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/printthread.php?t=47376 [09:44] with max resolution of 1600x1200 [09:44] i just wanted to make the report so hopefully it work by default in future releases [09:45] if there is anything kubuntu can do to remedy it [09:45] dimma1> knoppix detect your screen ? [09:45] "detect correctly" [09:45] i'll give it a shot [09:45] i dont understand [09:46] a shot ? [09:46] a try [09:46] i will boot up with knoppix to see what happens === lytefyre [~lytefyre@cpe-24-58-21-200.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:47] it a good test for see what happen [09:47] anyone sucessfull with booting kubuntu off an external hdd ? [09:47] yeah... is that how kubuntu detects hardware? === dorogoy [~inexile@80-28-19-197.adsl.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has left #kubuntu ["Abandonando"] [09:48] i have always been impressed with knoppix [09:48] kubuntu use udev hal and hotplug no ? [09:48] and dbus [09:49] naerex: yes media:/ [09:49] great :) [09:49] may need to install pmount first [09:49] ive got a pivot_root error on my kubuntu install [09:50] i have no luck with hal, dbus +pmount [09:50] Riddell> i plug usbkey and photo and he mount directly [09:50] kubuntu doesn't detecdt my usb-stick [09:51] bhna: in media:/ ? [09:51] but kubuntu is a beta ? [09:52] Riddell> yes, in media. no usbstick no icon ... [09:53] bhna: what does 'lsusb' tell you? [09:53] hi [09:54] I want to build CVS HEAD KDE on my own. Is prelinking KDE and/or Qt dangerous?? [09:54] i go to sleep bye all :) [09:54] Riddell>naerex>by [09:55] hello ? [09:55] bye naere [09:55] Riddell>i don't no, i will try it. [09:55] x [09:59] anyone know how to boot off external usb hdd , ive got the kubuntu preview === _andreas [~andreas@p54B803B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === ronny [~Ronny@pD9EC5220.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:00] install went fine and grub shows entries too, but it stalls with pivot_root:no such directory and cannot open dev/console === brainkilla [~chatzilla@217.26.66.163] has joined #kubuntu [10:01] #join #amarok === bhna [~andreas@p54B803B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:02] Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 [10:02] Riddell> lsusb: Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 [10:02] bhna: that doesn't list your device at all [10:03] bhna: it won't work in kde if the kernel doesn't even see it [10:03] hey guys [10:03] haggai> what can i do? no problems with knoppix, suse ... [10:04] if I start d/l-ing kubuntu now, what do I get? [10:04] I mean, kde 3.4, but what parts of it? [10:05] bhna: check the output of 'dmesg' to see if there is anything mentioned about the device [10:05] bhna: and try removing/readding the device [10:06] try sudo modprobe usb-storage [10:06] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 [10:06] haggai>dmesg: usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 [10:07] ouch [10:08] bhna: please file a bug against linux-image package and copy that output in the bug report [10:08] haggai>ok [10:11] haggai> any link for the bug-report-form === azuzak [~azuzak@201009179241.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [10:11] bhna: bugzilla.ubuntu.com [10:12] haggai> thanks ;-) [10:16] Riddell> lsmod: ide_core 118988 5 usb_storage,ide_cd,ide_generic,piix,ide_disk [10:18] there is a problem with kynaptic. it's starts only via konsole === alleeHol is now known as allee === bhna [~andreas@p54B803B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:26] anyone know how to boot off external usb hdd , ive got the kubuntu preview === Telep_ [~telep@dsl-tregw3hb8.dial.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === bhna [~andreas@p54B803B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi_ [~shuerlima@212-41-71-106.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu [10:35] anyone have a pivot_root error while booting ? [10:36] lytefyre: not happend till now [10:36] amu : any idea why it happens ? along with a dev/console not being found [10:36] lytefyre: you boot from a usb-cdrom and got this error? [10:36] amu: usb-hdd [10:38] hmm could you add an boot-argument: like ide=reverse as a kernel-bootparameter? [10:39] well it boots of grub so yeah i can add that argument but havent tried it..u think its worth a shot ? [10:41] lytefyre: you run a warty or hoary? [10:41] hoary [10:41] im trying to run a hoary..this is my first with an ubuntu :) [10:42] well, it's worth to try it [10:42] k thanks amu [10:42] lytefyre: the same happens on a liveCD? did you got the same error message? === LeeJunFan [~junfan@64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu === jmki [~jmki@a81-197-235-95.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === apokryphos [~apokrypho@host-84-9-33-55.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === apokryphos [~apokrypho@host-84-9-33-55.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.237] has joined #kubuntu === Quinn_Storm [~quinn@pa-bethelparkcadent1shills1d-6.pit.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === dimmak [~rroper@lsanca1-ar55-4-65-118-030.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:40] anybody timing out when trying to connect to us.archive.ubunu.com:80? [11:40] i can't apt-get with the default repository [11:41] dimmak: I think others are...I'm just using archive.ubuntu.com myself === buga-away is now known as buga === pepsi [~pepsi@72-254-18-19.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu === DaivdH86 [~ask@12-223-132-65.client.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi_ is now known as huerlisi === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:58] is anyone else experiencing problems with the ubuntu repositories??? [11:58] phxguy: some people are yes [11:59] thought so .... Im getting a lot of failed msgs when i try to refresh my repositories [12:00] Quinn_Storm, Do you thin i shouuld wait then before downloading kubuntu??? [12:00] phxguy: not sure