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lytefyreanyone have a pivot_root problem while booting ??12:13
lytefyreor dev/console not being found with kernel panic ?12:14
Kamionthat usually indicates that the initrd can't figure out how to mount your root filesystem12:14
Kamionplease file a bug against initrd-tools with all the information about your hardware that you can find; if you can boot the live CD, getting 'lspci' and 'lspci -n' output from that would be useful12:14
lytefyreim booting it off an usb external hard drive12:15
Kamionoh, god knows what it'll make of that12:16
Kamionfile a bug, probably not supported yet12:16
Kamionbut it would be good to fix that12:16
lytefyreinstallation went off fine , installed grub on MBR too, darn thing hangs with the above error !12:19
lytefyrecheck http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8050.html,seens like it has something to do with bugs 496 and  3363 12:24
=== haggai goes to bed
amun8 haggai 12:37
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elmoamu/haggai/riddell: ?05:31
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amumoin 09:19
haggaimorning09:33
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haggaielmo: what's up?11:35
haggaiRiddell: ping11:41
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amuhaggai: i'll remove crypto for kdepim, that fun keeps me too busy, removing it, readding, than removing it again .. that sucks a bit11:56
Kamionwhy remove again?11:59
=== haggai rolls up sleeves and gets stuck into recovering his lvm partition
haggaiKamion: you don't need any more info before I start?12:06
haggaiKamion: FYI pvscan says it is lvm212:09
haggainow that I have recreated it12:09
haggairoot@shawn:~ # pvcreate --uuid i7nrBb-JFYo-6idl-o744-306M-XyrY-Wqh9c9 --restorefile /etc/lvm-vg0-backup  /dev/hda712:10
haggai  Couldn't find device with uuid 'i7nrBb-JFYo-6idl-o744-306M-XyrY-Wqh9c9'.12:10
haggai  Physical volume "/dev/hda7" successfully created12:10
haggairoot@shawn:~ # pvscan12:10
haggai  PV /dev/hda7         lvm2 [61.73 GB] 12:10
haggai  Total: 1 [61.73 GB]  / in use: 0 [0   ]  / in no VG: 1 [61.73 GB] 12:10
Kamionhaggai: certainly now that you've recreated it, it will12:21
Kamionhaggai: LVM1 labels go in the first sector; LVM2 labels go in the second sector by default12:21
Kamionhence why lilo overwrites LVM1 labels12:21
haggaiah ok12:22
KamionI don't know what else goes in the first sector12:23
Kamionif you can get another LVM1 physical volume to compare with, you may find that there isn't much of interest there, and you can just dd the label back in, or something - but I don't know for sure12:23
haggaithere are tools to restore the config from text file backups which I'm trying to get working now12:24
haggaiKamion: surely I could have used my extended partition for lilo instead?  Any idea why I didn't get that as a choice?12:30
Kamionlilo-installer only ever offers MBR and the target partition; it's hard-coded12:33
Kamionnothing magic12:33
Kamionin fact removing the target partition from the offered list is kind of difficult :(12:34
KamionI don't really fancy trying to figure out how to offer the extended partition as well ...12:34
haggaiI see12:45
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Riddellhaggai, elmo: pong01:52
elmohaggai/riddell/amu: do you know about konq-plugins being uninstallable?01:52
Riddellelmo: it's because kdeaddons hasn't been updated to 3.4 yet01:53
elmook - when's that scheduled for?01:53
elmouninstallables in main make baby jesus cry01:53
Riddellelmo: as soon as possible, today or tomorrow probably01:53
elmook, cool01:53
haggaiRiddell: hi, wanted to ask your comments about kmilo on the livecd01:59
Riddellhaggai: well if mjg says it lets people overwrite the cmos seems it should be off by default02:00
haggaiRiddell: ah ok I didn't realise you weren't aware of that02:01
haggaiRiddell: so remove off the livecd by default right?02:01
Riddellhay I just wrote the thing :)02:02
haggaiwhat, kmilo? cool I hadn't seen that :)02:02
haggaiRiddell: also, ok with you to add knetworkconf to the installs?02:02
Riddellin theory it could be turned on with the live CD since that's root access anyway but I don't see that it's worth the hassle, it's the install that's the major issue02:03
Riddellhaggai: I wrote the thinkpad part of kmilo02:03
haggaicool02:03
Riddellhaggai: definatly to knetworkconf02:03
haggaiyup and for the install we should do something more clever with the groups, like making a thinkpad group eg02:03
Riddellhaggai: a thinkpad group sounds good, would there be an easy way to add people to it?  and how to have nvram module inserted as default and how to set /dev/nvram permissions by default02:04
haggaiyup something like that02:04
haggaimaybe better to call the group nvram rather than thinkpad, since there may be other uses02:05
Riddellgood plan02:05
Riddellso we need either a separate package or to modify kmilo so that it echo nvram >> /etc/modules; changes permissions on /dev/nvram (can that be done permanantly?) and adds your user into a new nvram group02:13
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Kamionwe talked about this for Ubuntu and concluded that it should be a dbus service, IIRC02:28
Kamionadding your user to the nvram group lets you do crap like modifying the BIOS password02:28
Kamionso a no-go02:28
Kamionreally needs to be root-only02:29
haggaihmm I guess we should be looking to get pyqt into main06:32
Riddellhaggai: I believe you volunteered for kdebindings :)06:32
haggaiRiddell: yeah its my idle-time job :)06:34
haggaiit is slowly creeping up the prio list06:35
Riddellhttp://jr2.quaker.eu.org/hu/index  cool06:50
Riddelldo we want to use this on the website (requires various things being set up and probably lots of hassling elmo)06:53
Kamionis that meant to have such a broken character set?06:54
Riddellno, it should be utf8 I assume06:54
KamionContent-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-106:54
Riddellfixed06:59
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haggaiRiddell: what options do we have open for allowing people baz write access? any idea?07:02
Riddellhaggai: I think it either has to be done over ssh or over webdav07:03
Riddelldon't know which elmo would prefer07:03
haggaiI think webdav would be less of a problem because you don't need to give full shell access out07:04
Riddellyep07:04
Kamioncheck that webdav write using baz actually works before you assume it does, though :)07:07
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dannyaRiddell: how come the kdevelop3 package is still broken?07:12
Riddelldannya: because I havn't fixed it yet07:13
dannya:)07:13
dannyaok07:13
Riddellthink I'll give that a shot now07:13
dannyaI really want to try out kdevelop 3.2! :)07:13
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Riddelldato: is there packaging for kdevelop3 from KDE 3.4 anywhere I can borrow?07:50
datonot that I know of. I don't even know the maintainer...07:51
Riddelldato: Christopher Martin no?  acroding to recent post on pkg-kde-talk07:52
datono, Norman Jordan. Christopher only asked for a requeue to lamont, which does not need being the maintainer ;)07:53
Riddellah I see07:53
dannyagoing well, Riddell? :)08:33
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haggaihmm did we want anything from kdebindings in main?10:24
haggairuby is in universe and its a builddep10:24

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