=== lytefyre [~lytefyre@cpe-24-58-21-200.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:12] amu: the ide=reverse dint work [12:14] lytefyre: meanwhile i found probably a solution, please check http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8050.html [12:15] thanks in advance [12:16] hi! what can I do with this problem: xorg causes a lag of about 4 seconds... typing "top" shows xorg using a lot of cpu-power, in X everything is "paused".. any idea? [12:16] yeah... i am totally having probs with the repositories [12:23] lytefyre: in adition you should file a bug :) it shouldbe fixed asap [12:23] thanks, just went through the whle site,seens like it has something to do with bugs 496 and 3363 === Quinn_Storm is now known as Quinn_Away === Shaquile [~Shaquile@h216n2fls34o888.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:25] am going to try the new install method , wish me luck ;) ! === kbitty [~kbitty@60-240-141-4-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === Quinn_Away is now known as Quinn_Storm === hoschbert is now known as hoschbert_away === hoschbert_away is now known as hoschi === hoschi is now known as hoschbert === hoschbert is now known as hoschbert_away === francesc [~francesc@196.Red-80-59-233.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #KUBUNTU === neom [neom@neom.ca] has joined #Kubuntu === hoschbert_away is now known as hoschbert [12:36] Hi, I'm having problems with the Xservers file, with kdm in kubuntu I can't get it to work... [12:37] I've made a link and copied from xdm to /etc/kde3/kdm/, but I still can't set the -dpi to 75 [12:38] anyone has had this issue? === HillTop [~chatzilla@cpe-204-210-35-9.san.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:38] kdm from kubuntu seems to use other config files, different from debian ones, but which ones? === mindframe [mindframe@ip24-254-49-115.br.br.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:45] There there a cli command to generate a random password? === HaPpYhObO [~shane@sdn-ap-017dcwashP0151.dialsprint.net] has joined #kubuntu === HaPpYhObO [~shane@sdn-ap-017dcwashP0151.dialsprint.net] has left #kubuntu [] === HaPpYhObO [~shane@sdn-ap-017dcwashP0151.dialsprint.net] has joined #kubuntu === slim [~PsYcHo@pool-141-150-99-202.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:47] Kumbuyah my Lord kumbuyah [12:47] lol HaPpYhObO wtf === HaPpYhObO [~shane@sdn-ap-017dcwashP0151.dialsprint.net] has left #kubuntu [] [12:47] neom, you can it uuidgen and also there are 2 extensions for firefox that do that job === slim [~PsYcHo@pool-141-150-99-202.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:48] neom, you can try uuidgen and also there are 2 extensions for firefox that do that job [12:48] so... nobody is missing the Xservers file in the Kubuntu's kdm?? === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.94.81.230] has joined #kubuntu === P229 [~P229@pool-138-88-147-61.esr.east.verizon.net] has left #kubuntu ["contact] [01:10] thanks a lot, what a great community... :( === mindframe [mindframe@ip24-254-49-115.br.br.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === amu tries now kaffeine-0.6 === hoschbert [~hoschi@p54830913.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === hoschbert is now known as hoschbert_away === Glin|Jol [~bobo@66-108-244-133.nyc.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === sander__ [~sander@pool-141-157-237-26.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === maxchee [~maxchee@209.195.79.18] has joined #kubuntu [02:21] any work being done by the devs to make kde mroe usable? [02:22] yes [02:22] maxchee: all suggestions happily accepted === chiavo [~craig@c-24-99-109-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === chiavo [~craig@c-24-99-109-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:53] Riddell: Just one thought, but maybe move the games out of the different subdirectories of Games, and into one menu? [02:54] and hide the application name that currently appears next to the description of menu items === neom [neom@neom.ca] has joined #Kubuntu === brian_ [~brian@S01060003478e1f8c.rd.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:55] I guess that's two thoughts [02:56] ggilbert: imteresting idea with games, will consider. why don't you like to know which application you are running? === mighty is now known as ozmighty === ozmighty is now known as mighty [02:58] Riddell: I like knowing what I'm running, but it seems redundant to list something as Personal Information Manager ( Kontact ) or Web Browser ( Konqueror ). [02:58] if you have 2 web browsers installed you wouldn't know which you were about to run [02:59] yeah that is a problem [03:00] how does gnome handle it? Do they do the same thing as KDE? === ggilbert installs and looks [03:03] eek, I made someone install gnome :) [03:03] haha [03:03] I do it every release anyways :p [03:03] lol [03:04] if they just hide the app name, then the kde way might be the lesser of two evils [03:05] i just came in and i'm not sure what you are talking about. It sounds like menus? [03:05] brian_: yeah [03:05] brian_: The current menu entries being Description ( Name ) [03:06] okay, I just think that kde can be complex without being complicated [03:06] right now the UI is chaotic [03:07] it would be a lot nicer if the saner configs and better organizations are applied [03:07] also, is kubuntu aware of the KDE usability group? [03:08] I read on dotKDE that they are drafting a HIG for KDE! [03:08] maxchee: kubuntu-default-settings attempts to do this [03:09] maxchee: concrete suggestions would be very welcome [03:09] i like Internet - Web Browsers - Mozilla etc.. then list all browsers that you have installed on your computer [03:09] then the next thing would be to make the UI more context-aware [03:09] maxchee: I am incontact with the usability man, we plan to have a good look at all the settings sometime after hoary [03:09] ie. more context-aware popup menus [03:10] maxchee: indepth ui changes are a little outside the realm of the distribution maintainer though [03:10] maxchee: right click means exist throughout KDE [03:10] ggilbert: I am aware of that [03:10] ggilbert: it would be better if kubuntu can help kde to simplify its yi [03:10] sorry, I mean UI [03:10] Riddell: they are just too long [03:11] Riddell: and a lot of menus can be replaced by drag and drop (example: the applet addition/deletion menus) [03:11] brian_: personally i don't like the idea of adding too many submenus. It breaks it makes things a bit tougher to get to. [03:12] Riddell: and although people are complaining about gconf, it would be nice if kde have such a thing [03:12] s/it breaks// [03:12] Riddell: a lot of the settings are rarely used [03:13] ggilbert: a gconf/about:config like system will pacify the advanced users and help less advanced users adopt [03:14] Riddell: also, I believe it's a good idea to separate konquorer into two apps [03:14] ggilbert: I guess for me it is eaiser, when I want to run a app that is internet related I just go to the Internet menu then to whatever submenu I need [03:15] Riddell: this is inline with the unix philosophy of small tools with focused functions. [03:16] I dunno, I've always thought of konqueror as being in line with that philosphy [03:17] ggilbert: but it's a file manager and a browser all rolled into one! [03:17] maxchee: sounds like you have a few KDE gripes (all perfectly valid) [03:17] :) [03:17] and the UI shows it [03:17] Riddell: I really wanted to use kde [03:17] maxchee: applet addition/deletion is being fixed in the next KDE version [03:17] Riddell: I am big fan of DCOP/Kparts [03:17] Riddell: is the next version 4.0? [03:17] maxchee: next version is either 3.5 or 4.0 [03:18] gconf smells, the problem is to sort and allow to search configutaion options in a usable way [03:18] Riddell: did the usability team set a schedule on the adoption of HIG by apps shiped with KDE? [03:18] which is also being looked at for KDE 4 [03:18] maxchee: KDE 4 [03:18] is the schedule [03:18] Riddell: well, I think about:config in firefox might be a better example [03:19] maxchee: konqueror is a very small tool with a focused function (to load kparts) [03:19] maxchee: about:config being a configuration dialogue? [03:19] Riddell: type about:config into firefox [03:19] i have no firefox [03:20] Riddell: it is a bit too primitive for kde, but it might work better than gconf (which is comparable to the dreaded windows registry) [03:20] Riddell: or mozilla [03:20] I have no mozilla [03:20] Riddell: well, I will send you a screenshot then [03:20] Riddell: basically it just lists all of the config file options for mozilla in one long html page [03:21] yes [03:21] I dont think it's all that useful myself [03:21] again, firefox does not have all than many settings, which means it is very primitive [03:21] since you dont necessarilly know what are valid responses in the context of the config [03:22] somehow, by making the config system a two-tier system, it allows people to tweak the common settings quickly to get to work and tweak kde further when they have time to get rid of their small complains so that it fits like a glove [03:22] ggilbert: that's true [03:23] Riddell: my gripe with konqueror is that I would like it to have a UI focused on browsing only when it is in browser mode [03:23] I'm kind of the opinion that if an option is not important enough to put in the preferences, then it probably should just be removed altogether [03:24] ggilbert: that's another option. although some kde people hate to learn from the gnome project [03:24] Riddell: and a UI focused on file management and loading kparts for preview without any browsing functions [03:25] maxchee: That stuff is improving [03:25] ggilbert: although it still needs some work before it can reach firefox's simplicity [03:26] maxchee: yeah === BROKEN_LADDER [~BROKEN@h-67-103-32-183.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [03:27] ggilbert: I think kde needs to be simple, yet has its unique qualities [03:27] ggilbert: flexibility and ultra-tight intergration between apps would be its best qualities [03:27] gnome bonobo is just brain-dead === Riddell goes to bed [03:28] sweet..i just plugged in my usb mouse and took my ps/2 mouse out and it just works.. [03:28] but you have to keep kde fast too [03:28] that's way to simple for linux. [03:28] ggilbert: also will KDE 4 require a longer period of time to develop? [03:29] ggilbert: since it's a major revision. [03:29] it needs more work, and I teahteag [03:29] blah [03:29] yeah [03:29] ggilbert: but will it take as long as KDE2? [03:29] don't know, i seriously doubt it though [03:30] kde 1 and kde2 are much more different from each other than kde 2 and kde 3 seem [03:30] i hated kde 1 [03:30] ggilbert: both gnome2 and kde2 sufferred from long dev time [03:30] brian_: I actually think kde 1 is much better compared to gnome 1 [03:31] brian_: at least most things work [03:31] lastly, anyone here using koffice? [03:31] yes you are right but i found it very bloated [03:31] I dont think suffered is quite the right word. Both projects took the time to stop and focus a bit more. KDE suffered from the second system effect a bit more than gnome [03:32] ggilbert: second system effect? [03:32] I actually liked kde 1 quite a bit. I started using the betas of it when i started with linux, and it was a very nice desktop for the time [03:32] maxchee: A bit over built [03:32] ggilbert: yeah. [03:33] maxchee: the idea is that the second time you build something you tend to over compensate for design flaws in the first one [03:33] ggilbert: a lot of popular oss suffer from feature-creep, but right now firefox is setting a better trend [03:33] ggilbert: so over-engineered? [03:33] catch you later kids bath time [03:33] gnome did the same thing, but in the opposite direction :) [03:33] i mean my kids bath time [03:34] ggilbert: under-built? [03:34] maxchee: a bit. They got the idea that their stuff was too chaotic and tried to simplify it. I think they went a little too far === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@218.208.195.131] has joined #kubuntu [03:34] ggilbert: that's true [03:34] I think both systems are gradually moving towards a good medium though [03:35] ggilbert: metacity made sense, but natutilus is a bit too far [03:35] the other thing is, it would be nice if kde and gnome could share more infrastructures. [03:35] it's not productive to make two vfs systems, two drawing libraries etc. [03:35] this is why I think freedesktop is so important [03:36] I dont think that will ever change, there are just too many core disagreements there [03:36] ggilbert: but will qt ever adopt cairo as it drawing library [03:36] ggilbert: after all, it's a freedesktop project [03:37] ggilbert: although I do understand that it's difficult to work together [03:37] ggilbert: when two projects have vastly different goals [03:37] remember, qt is outside of the scope of kde [03:37] ggilbert: that's true [03:37] ggilbert: although kde does have some say in it [03:37] ggilbert: or am I wrong? [03:38] maxchee: I'm sure trolltech pays attention to the opinions of some KDE developers, but all decisions are made by Trolltech === regeya [~shane@dialup-4.159.56.28.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:39] you have some overlap because some trolltech employees are kde developers [03:39] ggilbert: qt is a really nice toolkit, and trolltech have made a lot of compromises to make it more suitable for oss development [03:39] yeah they've really gone far beyond what could be expected of them [03:39] hopefully the qtwin32 4.x licensing change will cause more oss projects to adopt qt [03:40] ggilbert: but I guess most commercial companies are just too greedy [03:40] I mean toolkits cost very little compared to the labour cost etc. === maxchee leaving === maxchee [~maxchee@209.195.79.18] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === jsubl2 [~jsubl2@209.144.23.220] has joined #kubuntu [03:46] what is the name of the metapackage to install gcc === sander__ [~sander@pool-141-157-237-26.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === Roey [~Roey@h-69-3-4-130.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu === mighty is now known as ozmighty === azuzak [~azuzak@201009184067.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === katz_ [~Roey@h-69-3-4-130.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu === kaplanfx [~ubuntu@c-67-170-193-18.client.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === sander__ [~sander@pool-141-157-237-26.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === ttf_ [~tom@p83.129.2.220.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu === dimmak [~rroper@lsanca1-ar55-4-65-118-030.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:13] well i got 1920x1200 resolution working, using gtf i generated the following modeline, but it is incorrect: Modeline "1200x1920_60.00" 196.47 1200 1296 1424 1648 1920 1921 1924 1987 -HSync +Vsync [05:14] this is the one that works properly for me: ModeLine "1920x1200_60.00" 154.0 1920 1968 2000 2080 1200 1203 1209 1235 +Hsync -Vsync [05:15] KDE 1 BETTER than gnome 1? hah [05:15] well..gnome 1 was pretty ugly. but uglier than kde? i dunno.. [05:16] so apparently my dot clock frequency (pixel clock) gets improperly detected === kaplanfx [~kaplanfx@c-67-170-193-18.client.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:02] can someone help me out with configuring konquerer to use java [06:03] I have installed Java according to the instructioons on ubuntuguide.org but when i go to the java test page at java.com all i get is a grey box that says loading applet [06:07] phxguy> make sure about:plugins says something about java [06:08] the only things showing on the plugin page is the plugin for flash and acrobat [06:09] phxguy> make sure JAVA_HOME points to where java is installed [06:11] markc: the path to java executable is /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ [06:11] I have a symbolic linkk there.... according to the instructions on ubuntuguide.org === tackat [~tackat@p5493C12C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === Roey [~Roey@pcp04370251pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:12] hi [06:13] why aren't kubuntu debs prelinked? [06:13] Roey: becuase your mom [06:13] :) [06:13] ah [06:14] phxguy> try settings -> plugins and make sure one of the paths there is the right one, and rescan maybe === Roey jumps off a building [06:14] again and again and again. [06:14] Roey: you are using kubuntu now? [06:14] kaplanfx: yes but I will give up linux and computers in general within a week [06:14] haha [06:14] kaplanfx: this is stupid, all these problems. [06:14] kaplanfx: seroiusly!!!! listen: [06:14] kaplanfx: - cannot make my own kernel with grub because grub needs an initrd. [06:14] kaplanfx: - it's not enough to supply --initrd to make-kpkg, [06:15] kaplanfx: because I will need to patch my custom kernel with the cramfs debian-specific patches for initrd [06:15] is roey your real name? [06:15] kaplanfx: those patches are available only for specific kernel versions [06:15] Roey: no, you need to build initial ramdisk support in the kernel then build with --initrd to make an initrd kernel [06:15] kaplanfx: so I said, screw grub, I'll use LILO [06:16] kaplanfx: NO it is not enough [06:16] kaplanfx: the kernel must be patched with the debian-cramfs patch [06:16] kaplanfx: which only exists for specific debian kernels [06:16] debian+initrd has always been problematic [06:16] kaplanfx: so I can't use grub [06:16] kaplanfx: then I thought to use lilo [06:16] Roey: blame it on RMS [06:16] kaplanfx: but lilo just gave me some bullshit complaint about not recoginizing the drive type [06:16] kaplanfx: and then at that point I weent CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAZY [06:16] it scsi? [06:16] dimmak: yes [06:16] kaplanfx: SATA [06:17] kernel 2.6.11? [06:17] kaplanfx: what in the *BLUE FUCK* is wrong with libata???? [06:17] yes [06:17] 2.6.11.5 [06:17] .5? === kaplanfx goes to kernel.org [06:17] markc: okk i did that and now i get Error java executable not found [06:18] whoa [06:18] pronounced like joey? [06:18] they are using the new numbering system alredy? [06:18] already? === _chavo [~chavo@181.sub-70-212-24.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:19] dimmak: joey, accent on the second syllable [06:20] dimmak: Dima Kaznachey?? [06:21] BATFOYOMAT, LIBATA, YOU SUCK!!! take THAT linux!!! === Roey stabs linux with tears of frustration [06:23] dimmak: its like Roeee === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu [06:23] I knew I hated java for a reasonn..... [06:25] phxguy: YES YES YES [06:26] whats wierd is it work fine in firefox..... but not in Konquerer === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu === ian__ [~yella@h00a0cc665eeb.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #kubuntu === delphi [~delphi@host217-44-239-69.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:34] are there daily snapshot images available? [07:35] where are the best kubuntu screenshots? [07:54] has anyone here used reiser4 in ubuntu? [07:55] BROKEN_LADDER: resier4 is bad [07:56] bad? [07:56] it was highly touted on articles i read. [07:56] real bad [07:56] it broke my machine [07:56] I wouldnt trust it as far as I can throw the cd it's on :p [07:56] i can't even get it to work. [07:56] i installed the reiser4 kernel patch. [07:56] still nothing. [07:57] okay..i guess i'll hold off using it for now. [07:58] reiser (3?) worked for me for years, but I switched to ext3 for the better laptop support [07:58] ian__: reeiserfs and reiser4 are very different beasts [07:58] is reiser4 new? if so, it wasn't that. :) [07:58] BROKEN_LADDER: even grub cant currently use reiser4 [07:59] reiser4 looks really cool, but I wouldnt trust it until it gets quite a bit more testing [07:59] seeing the words "new" and "file system" anywhere near each other scares me :) [08:00] particularly around "hans reiser" :p [08:00] reiser3 was pretty dangerous when it was new [08:00] why, is he a nut? [08:00] gave it a really bad reputation [08:00] ian__: not bad [08:00] I chose it after reading some benchmarks [08:01] I'd stick with it, except the ext3 has the laptop-mode now [08:01] I used to use reiser3, it worked well [08:01] he does have some annoying ideas when it comes to licensing [08:05] like what? [08:11] ian__: He used to have a clause where you couldn't remove code from his tools that had to do with credits [08:12] ian__: then he added in code that would print out a list of anyone who had contributed money that would display when the tools tran [08:13] is there anything wrong with this line? /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hd2 reiserfs umask=0222 0 0 [08:14] BROKEN_LADDER: I'm going to venture a guess and say reiserfs is incorrect [08:14] uh..no, the partition is reiser [08:14] reiser4 is not reiser3 [08:15] make sure reiserfs is correct for a reiser4 partition [08:15] oh, it was the umask. [08:15] it's not [08:15] i changed the partition to reiserfs [08:15] for reiser4 it's "reiser4" [08:16] i just had to change the umask=0222, so i just put in "defaults" instead of figuring out what i typed wrong. [08:16] ah [08:17] what umask should i use to get the same as chmod 1777 ? [08:17] i want to make the partition so that everyone can store things in it. [08:18] 766? === Jeezis [~None@12.173.111.233] has joined #kubuntu [08:20] wait [08:21] umasks work by setting every bit set to 1 in the mask to 0 in the final result [08:21] so if you want 1777 you probably want 0000 [08:21] hmm that would allow suid [08:21] 6000 maybe [08:23] wouldn't chmod 744 be umask=7033? [08:23] or is the first bit of umask actually not a mask, but just like chmod? [08:23] I think so [08:27] warning: unknown mount option "umask=0222" [08:27] ggilbert: err, that is kinda nutty [08:28] ian__: the idea is to let you to force certain permissions off [08:28] ggilbert: no no, the last thing you said to me :) [08:28] ian__: ah [08:28] warning: unknown mount option "umask=004" [08:28] he may have changed his opinions recently and his software seems to be decent [08:29] and anyone who makes Free Software is ultimately alright in my book === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@218.208.195.131] has joined #kubuntu [08:30] yeah [08:31] until I'm declared supreme dictator for life ( still working on this one) people don't have to conform to my particular views :) [08:33] any day now === pv [~pv@jt11-57-1.tky.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu === amiroff [~amiroff@dsl81-214-21642.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #kubuntu === _amiroff [~amiroff@dsl81-214-21642.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #kubuntu === dimmak [~rroper@lsanca1-ar55-4-65-118-030.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@218.208.197.1] has joined #kubuntu === incubii [~incubii@cor9-ppp1299.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [09:46] hello people, I've seen on many screenshots a kde utility similar to netstatus on gnome or windows (blinking monitors ). What is the name of it on KDE? === incubii shrugs [10:04] probably knemo he's looking for === Quinn_Storm [~quinn@pa-bethelparkcadent1shills1d-6.pit.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.63.161] has joined #kubuntu === marcusT [~marcus@80.169.162.72] has joined #kubuntu === hoschbert_away is now known as hoschbert === ttf_ is now known as ttf === huerlisi [~shuerlima@212.4.66.156] has joined #kubuntu === _alex [~alex@84-104-152-170.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #kubuntu === _alex is now known as lexNL [11:30] hiya guys [11:31] anyone knows how to get a bootsplash going with kubuntu? === trondaso [~trondaso@dsl-160-196.oeke.tiscali.no] has joined #kubuntu === trondaso [~trondaso@dsl-160-196.oeke.tiscali.no] has joined #kubuntu === incubii [~incubii@cor9-ppp1299.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [11:55] ah its lookin much better now === _ggilbert [~ggilbert@69-175-32-221.ventca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === incubii [~incubii@cor9-ppp1299.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:39] why is it after install the xserver is fine but as soon asi reboot the colors are all fucked up === incubii [~incubii@cor9-ppp1299.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:41] strange 16bit works and 24bit doesnt work properly :| === ubuntu [~ubuntu@CPE-203-45-212-170.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:47] would anyone know why a loop mounted iso image is ro (read-only) and how to change it to rw... (mount -o remount,rw dir does not work) ? [12:47] you might want to run gtf passed with your max resolution and max refresh rate at that resolution to generate a modeline, ie "gtf 1600 1200 85" ... Then replace the hardcoded display values in your xorg.conf to that single modeline... I had to do this to get my 1900x1200 display working properly. === ubuntu is now known as markc [12:47] from my knowledge and attempts you cant mount an iso rw === Elsidox [~Elsidox@CPE-69-76-103-192.wi.rr.com] has joined #Kubuntu [12:49] ill give it a try dimmak [12:49] i'll link you to where i got the info [12:49] it's an extracted cloop iso... this one is a knoppix image but I'm strying to solve a different problem with the kubuntu livecd image [12:51] whenever I try to remaster the current kubuntu livecd image it gets larger in size... so I was messing with a knoppix iso to see if it did the same thing, expect it's read-only even though it loop mounted [12:51] oh [12:51] because it uses a special defrag util [12:52] and symlinks multiple files [12:52] www.knoppix.net will have info as to why your ISOs will be larger then theirs [12:52] ah! where is this special defrag util ? [12:53] heh, I've spent hours trying to work this out ... would you know where on www.knoppix.net by any chance ? [12:53] lol [12:54] the customizing section ? [12:54] i havent looked into those problems for ages [12:54] I don't really care about the knoppix iso ro problem.. I really want to solve the kubuntu getting larger problem [12:54] damnit... i can't find the page by googleing... i am starting up my other computer that has the link in a log [12:54] bah [12:55] i suck [12:55] lol [12:55] incubii: this is similar >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3277 [12:56] and you generate the modeline that appears in the xorg.conf as i stated earlier with gtf [12:59] alrite brb [12:59] hopefully ittl work === incubii [~incubii@cor9-ppp1299.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:00] that was awesome [01:00] 24bit [01:00] :D [01:00] thanks for that [01:00] good good [01:00] now if only i could work out why i can get sound in KDE and not XMMS [01:00] i had to find that out to get my display going today... i am glad the knowledge is paying off [01:01] last time i had sound working in xmms and not kde [01:01] i cant win [01:01] lol [01:02] well are you running multiple applications that would be trying to get access to the sound card... like kaffeine and xmms? [01:02] ah ffs now it works [01:02] i had to change it to ALSA about 40 times [01:02] now it works [01:02] :D [01:03] first linux distro to get sound working 100% on ppc for me [01:03] so have you been using kubuntu long? i have only been running it like 2 days now [01:03] i was so happy that it worked perfectly on my laptop [01:03] yeah its great, im a debian fan [01:03] and i dont like ubuntu [01:03] cause its gnome [01:03] someone mentioned kubuntu [01:04] so gave ti a try [01:04] yeah... i am not a fan of gnome [01:04] it rocks specially after using Yellow Dog Linux [01:04] i usually would do the install script for knoppix [01:04] incubii> did sound work with YDL ? [01:04] partially [01:04] its was borked [01:05] i played around with fedora core 3 for a while... but it just required way to much editing to get working right === incubii helped write knoppix HDD installer at the start [01:05] ;) [01:05] cool :) [01:05] i like kubuntu as much as knoppix... knoppix for running from cd... and kubuntu for installing natively [01:05] very cool [01:05] though Fabian has done an excellent job with it [01:05] mcuh better then i could [01:05] lol [01:06] yeah i use knoppix everywhere === dvoid [~dvoid@c-215fe155.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [01:06] and knoppix-std [01:06] so I was almost the right man about my knoppix ro problem... close [01:06] waiting for knoppix-std 0.2 to come out [01:06] lol [01:07] its probably an option you arent passing to the creation of the iso [01:07] hmm accelerated sound [01:08] thats an interesting problem [01:08] accelerated... our pitch problems? [01:08] it speeds up [01:08] or maybe its pitch [01:08] it sounds faster [01:09] duration the same? [01:09] length of song [01:09] yea [01:09] then it seems like pitch [01:09] chipmunk style? [01:09] nah not that bad [01:09] its like its running 10% faster [01:09] thats how it sounds [01:10] only happens after it loops back to the start === GNAM [~auauuuaua@natpool-1-16.pd.astro.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:10] definitely weird [01:10] incubii> the iso is the CeBIT 3.8, I use extract_compressed_fs on it, then mount -o loop the extracted file... chroot into it but it's RO !!! [01:10] i am playing around with the amaroK player right now... i like it so far [01:11] i honestly have no idea how to mount an iso rw [01:11] u might need something a lil more powerful then mount [01:11] like ultraiso for windows only the linux version [01:12] if there is such a program for linux [01:12] playing around with a live-cd you can save to? [01:12] incubii> np, but it's not the iso itself... it's the extracted file I am loop mounting... the kubuntu livecd iso works fine, as evry other livecd iso I've tried to remaster [01:12] wierd [01:12] hmm [01:12] that is weird [01:12] a klaus trick to prevent the cdbit image from being altered, I suspect [01:12] cebit [01:13] well if he can turn it on, you can turn it off [01:13] it does complain about no /etc/fstab inside the chroot, but, being ro I can't add one [01:14] yes, I would like to think so :) [01:14] incubii: you can also completely remove the subsection display modes from your xorg.conf... i did... i like not having unnecessary lines... be sure to backup your current working wrong... cuz i am sure that might not work on certain configs [01:15] alright... well i am gonna shower and sleep... adios [01:16] cya === membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:17] would anyone know why Control Center would be crashing my PC? [01:18] has it always done this from the get go? [01:19] incubii: yup, but in gnome ..my system will "occasionally" lock up when I'm using a web browser..everything but the mouse locks up (i can still use it but the buttons dont work) [01:20] only thing that's changed is that I've changed to reiserfs [01:20] all i can think of is something is broken [01:21] which is obvious [01:21] lol [01:24] Linux anubis 2.6.10-5-powerpc #1 Tue Mar 15 15:25:47 UTC 2005 ppc GNU/Linux === membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:26]