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[03:51] <lytefyre> hi anyone know how to fix screen resolution , I have a dell latop capable of doing 1024x768 but im only getting 640x480
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[03:55] <zeratha> I am having some issues with kubuntu. No one in #kubuntu is very helpful, as they seem more intrested in their cars... :-(
[04:01] <Riddell> zeratha: I don't have a car
[04:01] <Riddell> what are the issues?
[04:01] <zeratha> All KDE based apps I install fail with a rather long, annoying error message. After installing kubuntu and logging into KDE I get this message: "Could not start process. Unable to create io-slave. Klauncher said Unknown protocol 'file'.
[04:02] <Riddell> zeratha: some library not talking to some other library.  how did you install?
[04:02] <zeratha> via synaptic.
[04:02] <Riddell> and what did you install?
[04:03] <zeratha> First just K3b and the Amarok, after that I uninstalled both and tried the entire Kubuntu-desktop
[04:03] <zeratha> Twice now.... :-(
[04:03] <Riddell> from hoary?
[04:03] <zeratha> I really just want those to apps
[04:03] <zeratha> Yes
[04:03] <Riddell> I wonder if that's k3b doing evil permissions things
[04:04] <zeratha> It doesn't seem to be K3b related. I have done this on two other machines without a problem
[04:04] <Riddell> make sure /tmp/.kde-myuser is owned by myuser
[04:04] <zeratha> OK, BRB
[04:04] <Riddell> and /tmp/.ICE-unix is owned by root
[04:04] <zeratha> ok
[04:05] <dato> itym /tmp/kde-user
[04:05] <Riddell> dato: itym?
[04:06] <dato> "I think you mean"
[04:06] <Riddell> so I do
[04:06] <dato> (dict itym says)
[04:06] <zeratha> /tmp/kde-zeratha is owned by zeratha.users.... /tmp/.ICE-unix root.root.....
[04:07] <Riddell> tis a mistery
[04:07] <dato> I'd say something is screwed under ~/.kde
[04:07] <zeratha> Tell me about it.
[04:08] <zeratha> dato, I'll try renaming it and see.
[04:09] <zeratha> BRB, gotta log out
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[06:33] <Riddell> new kdelibs, kdemultimedia and kdebase uploaded with various fixes to k-menu
[06:33] <Riddell> new konserve uploaded with patch for kmenu and layout
[06:34] <Riddell> new kubuntu-default-settings with anti-aliased fonts
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[06:59] <fabbione> guys can you please fix (this time for real) kdesdk? it's 3 uploads that it FTBFS
[06:59] <fabbione> becuase one patch doesn't apply
[06:59] <fabbione> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/kdesdk/4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3/
[06:59] <fabbione> thanks :-)
[09:24] <amu> moin
[09:25] <amu> fabbione: it's on the way 
[09:25] <fabbione> thanks amu :-)
[09:33] <haggai> I thought Riddell was going back to a normal sleep pattern
[09:39] <elmo> amu: fixing kdepim is still on your todo list right?
[09:39] <amu> elmo: yep
[09:39] <amu> elmo: i'll fix also the last know bugs 
[09:40] <elmo> ok, just checking
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[11:02] <dholbach> hey
[11:02] <dholbach> what was the final decision towards python2.4?
[11:02] <dholbach> i can't remember it
[11:04] <haggai> that you were looking at an obsolete package?
[11:07] <dholbach> no... it was included more than one package - i just wanted to make sure, i could tick off everything kde-related from our lists
[11:07] <haggai> more than one source package?
[11:10] <dholbach> yes
[11:10] <dholbach> but i'm making sure first
[11:10] <dholbach> before i'm becoming a pain in the neck :-)
[11:11] <haggai> looks like sip-qt3 needs love
[11:11] <dholbach> herve is working on it
[11:12] <haggai> great
[11:12] <haggai> kdevelop has a 2.3 dep but Riddell is working on that anyway
[11:12] <dholbach> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePythonTransitionTODO still says:
[11:12] <dholbach>  JonathanRiddel?
[11:12] <dholbach> 
[11:12] <dholbach> kdebindings, kdevelop3, koffice -- KDE 3.4 is currently being packaged, no use transitioning 3.3 for now 
[11:13] <dholbach> that's why i was asking
[11:13] <dholbach> they all contain python bits somewhere
[11:13] <haggai> kdebindings:  that's what I'm doing right now, kdevelop: Riddell (yes Jonathan Riddell), koffice: nothing done yet
[11:13] <dholbach> but if you guys say WONTFIX, it's no problem and i'll chuck them from all our lists
[11:14] <haggai> koffice won't be a part of kubuntu main I don't think, so that's the only one that isn't getting any love at the moment
[11:14] <dholbach> it's just the amount of the MOTU lists grew more and more, so i want to regain control somehow :-)
[11:15] <dholbach> ok thanks for telling me
[11:16] <haggai> so where to put koffice?
[11:17] <haggai> is there a place for unloved packages, or should I leave next to Riddell?
[11:18] <haggai> I've updated the page
[11:18] <dholbach> unloved packages ... *sigh* it'll be a MOTU thing then
[11:20] <haggai> well we might find time but I don't want to hold things up by saying we will and then not doing it
[11:20] <dholbach> right
[11:21] <dholbach> and maybe we'll have MotuKdeEnthusiasts-Team soon
[11:21] <dholbach> we should encourage those kinds of teams pretty much
[11:22] <haggai> right
[11:23] <dholbach> ok... back to  UniverseDoesNotBuild
[11:27] <haggai> thanks for your help
[11:28] <dholbach> it's a pleasure :-)
[11:36] <amu> 11:34 < pitti> amu, Riddell: did I already forward you the long-outstanding TIFF vulns in
[11:36] <amu>                kdegraphics?
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[01:44] <Riddell> amu: I don't think he did firward the long-outstanding TIFF vulns
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[02:21] <Riddell> can anyone work out what has caused these failures?  http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/kdelibs/4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3/
[02:32] <Riddell> kdeaccessiblity is in, I'll bump up the version number
[02:36] <amu> Riddell: probably a missing Doxyfile.am /arts is missing ? 
[02:41] <Riddell> amu: but why would it build on the other architectures?
[02:41] <Riddell> amu: and what's wrong with powerpc, that's a different error
[02:58] <Riddell> amu: are you doing kdeaddons?  you need to take back 8038 if you are
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[04:44] <amu> Riddell: that looks strange, right
[04:44] <amu> yep i do, already fixed it
[04:44] <Riddell> amu: what looks strange?  fixed what?
[04:45] <amu> 14:41 < Riddell> amu: but why would it build on the other architectures?
[04:45] <amu> 14:58 < Riddell> amu: are you doing kdeaddons?  you need to take back 8038 if you are
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[04:46] <amu> Riddell: did you saw pitti's question on #u-d ? 
[04:46] <Riddell> amu: I did, want me to do it or shall you?
[04:48] <amu> Riddell: no it was a suggestion just in this case you're working atm on them, if not i'll add a bug
[04:48] <froud> amu: for knetwork-conf there is a bug. I dunno if it is kubuntu specific. but apparently when use presses "Apply" the environment should be updated.
[04:49] <amu> froud: did you tested it ex. on another system? 
[04:49] <froud> no just on kubuntu
[04:50] <froud> amu: but juan says it should work
[04:51] <froud> Try this: 
[04:51] <amu> froud: could you please add a bug with all the information
[04:51] <froud> 
[04:51] <froud> /ust/share/apps/knetworkconf/backends/network-conf --get > network.xml 
[04:51] <froud> 
[04:51] <froud> Edit network.xml and change some config value, for example your ip address. 
[04:51] <froud> 
[04:51] <froud> /ust/share/apps/knetworkconf/backends/network-conf --set < network.xml 
[04:51] <froud> amu: ok
[04:52] <froud> amu: btw did you know it is now in KDE cvs review
[04:53] <amu> :) yep, i'm in contact with upstream
[06:54] <Riddell> can someone test kdevelop3 at deb http://jasmine.19inch.net/~jr/away/kubuntu ./
[09:46] <haggai> Riddell: do you have a mirror with your new kdebase yet?  I see ubuntu9 built but my uk mirror doesn't seem to have it yet
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[10:03] <haggai> Riddell: I don't see a menu item
[10:03] <haggai> for kdevelop
[10:04] <haggai> Riddell: also, several icons missing in left hand pane of project options, e.g. General
[10:06] <Riddell> haggai: nope, don't have kdebase -ubuntu9, and if the uk mirror doesn't have it that means none of them do
[10:07] <Riddell> haggai: kdevelop seems to have some missing files, hopefully I can add them and that'll sort it
[10:08] <haggai> 30655 chris     25   0  773m 706m 2888 R 83.3 72.1   9:42.98 cc1plus
[10:08] <haggai> oggle
[10:10] <elmo> LOL
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[10:49] <Riddell> http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/lwn-ubuntu-kubuntu-review.html
[10:52] <apokryphos> Great comments generally all around; cool stuff. :)
[11:05] <Riddell> amu's on a roll today.  Gaelic added, about time too
[11:08] <amu> ... it was a bitcircumstantially to upload those 330MB  
[11:10] <amu> and of course a good test for elmo's buildd :)
[11:10] <apokryphos> Hm, so if there's problems with kde Universe packages, I can't create a bug report?
[11:11] <amu> apokryphos: which package? 
[11:12] <apokryphos> PyKDE stuff; I know you guys know of it, but I thought it would be helpful to keep track with a bug report...
[11:13] <Riddell> apokryphos: add it to kde marked for kubuntu
[11:13] <haggai> apokryphos: python-dcop or something different?
[11:13] <apokryphos> python2.3-kde3 and python-kde3
[11:15] <amu> apokryphos: yep, problem is universe is not supported by bugzilla, there's a kind of backdoor, Package is UNKNOWN and assign it to us, i started to fix it and it hangs on a unknown .sip error 
[11:15] <apokryphos> Ok, cool; adding now.
[11:15] <amu> ... i contacted the motu team, they told me riddell is also working on it :)
[11:15] <haggai> heh nice one Riddell :)
[11:16] <Riddell> well, it's on my todo list, anyone else who wants to do it first is more than welcome
[11:18] <apokryphos> To assign it to you guys I just put in kubuntu-bugs email address, right?
[11:18] <amu> Riddell: ok, i'll take it after kdesdk is done, what i did, i fixed/checked the depends, imho it's only this python sip problem.  
[11:19] <amu> apokryphos: yep, in this case directly to me, than we can save a bit time, someone readdress it.
[11:19] <haggai> bah, my laptop test env ran out of space, time to ditch ubuntu..
[11:19] <apokryphos> ok
[11:21] <amu> Riddell: if you did more than me, or if you're deeper in it, you're welcome to take it back, just look to my buildd
[11:21] <Riddell> amu: you go ahead
[11:21] <Riddell> I've not done anything so far
[11:22] <elmo> guys, are you nearing completion in your marathon of uploads?
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[11:23] <opi> g'day/night :)
[11:23] <amu> elmo: i just start it :) it will a nice evening for you idle cpu 
[11:24] <elmo> well, reason I ask is, there's a bunch of uninstallable's, wondering if that's because you're still mid-uploads, or if it's somethingI should be chasing you about
[11:25] <amu> elmo: it's cause of mid-uploads .... kdepim ppc is still missing, which blocks _all_  
[11:27] <elmo> ok, it's in needs-build.. one of the buildds should take it soon
[11:27] <elmo> or will now I've started one
[11:27] <amu> thx, 
[11:28] <elmo> kde-i18n is arch: any?
[11:28] <amu> elmo: needs-build is fine .... 
[11:28] <elmo> nm, no it's not
[11:29] <amu> ufff, i checked it very carefull, except the linitan
[11:30] <amu> hey opi ;)
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[11:39] <opi> hi ami
[11:39] <opi> and elmo
[11:39] <elmo> hi opi
[11:39] <opi> Anyone of you have some experience with QTDesigner and Python?
[11:39] <haggai> woo finaly a kdebindings that builds and has everything in the right places
[11:40] <opi> I mean, GTK has Glade and Glade-Python bindings
[11:40] <opi> it's kinda offtopic, but ;)
[11:41] <opi> I'm developing small thing, and I would like to add face to it, but I was building GUIs from hand back at AmigaOS, now I'm too lazy 
[11:41] <haggai> time for bed, back in the morning
[11:41] <Riddell> haggai: well done, not going to upload?
[11:42] <haggai> Riddell: I only said the files are in the right places, not that I'd actually tested them thoroughly...
[11:42] <Riddell> fair enough
[11:42] <haggai> :) night
[11:42] <Riddell> guid nicht
[11:47] <opi> night haggai 
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