[12:55] <mdke> hi all
[01:52] <sabmoc> mdke, hello hello
[01:52] <mdke> hi sabmoc 
[01:52] <sabmoc> hiya
[02:23] <mdke> sabmoc, how are you doing?
[02:23] <sabmoc> mdke, Im pretty good
[02:23] <mdke> :)
[02:23] <sabmoc> mdke, how are you this fine day?
[02:23] <mdke> i am really well
[02:24] <sabmoc> good stuff
[02:24] <sabmoc> Im pretty busy, everything is so chaotic
[02:24] <mdke> sabmoc, you should get your locoteam approved by the community council
[02:24] <mdke> i forgot to tell you there was a meet yesterday. There will be another in 2 weeks i think
[02:25] <sabmoc> yeah, I found out last night
[02:25] <sabmoc> that was a big bummer
[02:25] <mdke> sorry :(
[02:25] <mdke> anyway
[02:25] <sabmoc> Kinnison says they may have a meeting sooner but it will most likely happen in 3 weeks
[02:25] <mdke> its no biggie
[02:25] <sabmoc> yeah its ok, no biggie
[02:25] <sabmoc> heh
[02:25] <mdke> you can keep working
[02:25] <sabmoc> I am
[02:25] <mdke> and then get approval next week or whenever
[02:26] <sabmoc> yeah we have sooo much to do
[02:26] <mdke> cool
[02:26] <sabmoc> mdke, do you know if there are any templates available for ubuntu style sites?
[02:27] <mdke> not sure
[02:27] <mdke> i recollect the dutch one is pretty similar to the ubuntu main one
[02:27] <mdke> but the main one is changing soon anyhow
[02:28] <sabmoc> They had a contest for the new look of the main site, is it possible that we get access to those files?
[02:28] <mdke> erm
[02:28] <mdke> shit
[02:28] <sabmoc> or since it was a contest and canonical paid money for it, we are not aloud
[02:28] <mdke> someone posted a test page yesterday at the meeting
[02:28] <mdke> you can probably get hold of the log
[02:28] <mdke> oh hang on
[02:29] <mdke> i'll dig mine out
[02:29] <sabmoc> ok
[02:30] <mdke> check this out
[02:30] <mdke> not sure what it is tho
[02:30] <mdke> http://www.theopencd.net/ubu/index1.html
[02:31] <sabmoc> lets find out!
[02:31] <mdke> you wanna see the italian one? http://www.ubuntuitalia.org
[02:31] <sabmoc> ooOOoo pretty :D
[02:32] <sabmoc> I seem to remember that one getting second or third place, but to be honest I think its my favorite
[02:32] <mdke> real sexy yeah
[02:32] <sabmoc> yeah
[02:34] <sabmoc> I think I need to learn python
[02:34] <mdke> lol
[02:34] <mdke> you sound like a hard worker to me
[02:35] <mdke> all that laziness talk was just show...
[02:35] <sabmoc> knowledge is power, and the quest for knowledge never ends
[02:35] <sabmoc> but I love being lazy
[02:35] <mdke> hmm
[02:35] <sabmoc> :P
[02:35] <mdke> sounds like you're torn
[02:35] <sabmoc> I am
[02:35] <mdke> pick one or the other dammit
[02:35] <sabmoc> haha
[02:36] <sabmoc> mdke, how can I get that index page?
[02:37] <mdke> no idea
[02:37] <mdke> you could find the guy who posted it
[02:37] <mdke> nick: "hno73"
[02:37] <mdke> without quotes naturally
[02:37] <sabmoc> I dont know if matthias has plone or zope on his server, but I guess we'll need it
[02:38] <mdke> how come?
[02:38] <sabmoc> mdke, we have a site now
[02:38] <sabmoc> ubuntu-ca.org :)
[02:38] <mdke> ok will check it
[02:38] <sabmoc> dont look its ugly!
[02:38] <sabmoc> haha
[02:39] <sabmoc> *shudder*
[02:39] <mdke> what's wrong with the normal wiki?
[02:39] <sabmoc> I dont know
[02:40] <sabmoc> well, matthias is hosting the site, and he setup a wiki for us on his server. At the moment we dont have a main page.
[02:40] <mdke> ok
[02:41] <sabmoc> hmm.. mabye its a better idea if we just use the main wiki
[02:41] <mdke> not sure
[02:41] <mdke> i like the idea of using the main wiki
[02:41] <mdke> we use it for docs
[02:42] <mdke> but mailing list for other group stuff
[02:42] <sabmoc> Im asking myself; what is the advantage of hosting our own wiki?
[02:42] <mdke> hmm
[02:42] <mdke> i can't see one
[02:42] <sabmoc> but for that I first need to know what our purpose is
[02:42] <mdke> fewer hits probably too
[02:43] <mdke> sabmoc, yeah obviously english speaking groups don't need to worry about docs or translating
[02:43] <mdke> but the ideas on that page look pretty good
[02:43] <mdke> #
[02:43] <mdke> We plan to hook into all of the Canadian LUGS(Linux User Groups) from coast to coast.
[02:43] <mdke> #
[02:43] <mdke> We will offer a wide range of local community support for Linux users.
[02:43] <mdke> sabmoc, maybe organise some promotional things
[02:43] <sabmoc> yeah
[02:45] <sabmoc> yeah I wrote that
[02:45] <mdke> omg
[02:45] <mdke> how can it be 01.45 already
[02:45] <sabmoc> lol
[02:45] <sabmoc> seems like I ask myself that everyday
[02:45] <sabmoc> omg 3am?!?
[02:46] <mdke> i thought i just got hoe
[02:46] <sabmoc> mdke, I think I will ask matthias to take down the wiki and we will continue to use the main site
[02:46] <mdke> *home
[02:46] <mdke> sabmoc, no harm leaving it up for a while until you decide
[02:47] <sabmoc> true
[02:47] <sm-afk> sabmoc, that's not a zwiki
[02:47] <sm-afk> nice skin though
[02:47] <mdke> lol
[02:47] <sabmoc> sm, hi
[02:47] <mdke> hi simon
[02:47] <sabmoc> sm, matthias set it up
[02:48] <sabmoc> you guys are so helpful
[02:48] <mdke> its a moin wiki innit?
[02:49] <mdke> heh
[02:50] <sabmoc> mdke, the only good thing about hosting our own wiki is control, we would have complete control
[02:50] <mdke> yeah
[02:50] <mdke> germany hosts their own iirc
[02:50] <mdke> and probably others
[02:51] <sabmoc> Matthias is team leader for LoCo-germany so he is probably hosting theirs too
[02:51] <mdke> you mean he is hosting your personally??!?
[02:51] <mdke> *yours/his
[02:51] <sabmoc> yes, on one of his servers
[02:52] <mdke> i assumed it was ubuntu/canonical hosted
[02:52] <mdke> how cool
[02:52] <sabmoc> well he calls it "my server" maybe he is just the admin. I dont really know.
[02:53] <mdke> sm,   can i just delete this line when converting from stx to moin: <dtml-var "'(Ce site tourne actuellement sur la version '"><dtml-var zwiki_version><dtml-var "').'"> ?
[02:54] <sm> yes
[02:55] <mdke> cool thanks
[03:01] <mdke> bed i think
[03:03] <sm> night
[03:03] <mdke> heh
[03:03] <mdke> going to bed is a long process for me
[03:14] <sabmoc> mdke, cya 
[03:14] <sabmoc> have a good night
[03:18] <mdke> gnight
[06:13] <EricNeon> sabmoc
[06:15] <EricNeon> how can I create a website for my team 
[06:16] <EricNeon> I couldn't find "proposed" table on LoCoTeamList.
[06:16] <sabmoc> EricNeon, I'll get the link
[06:16] <sabmoc> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LoCoTeamList
[06:17] <sabmoc> it says "New Community Teams, this is the list of porposed new teams"
[06:17] <EricNeon> o,my god!
[06:17] <sabmoc> haha
[06:17] <sabmoc> :P
[06:17] <EricNeon> I am wrong
[06:18] <sabmoc> thats ok
[06:18] <EricNeon> you can find I done after them in that site
[06:22] <EricNeon> in edit table?
[06:23] <sabmoc> yes, just add your team to the table
[06:28] <EricNeon> pls look at this : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LoCoTeamList
[06:29] <EricNeon> whether I do right?
[06:30] <sabmoc> it looks good to me
[06:30] <sabmoc> the only thing I would change: instead of saying your local is "chinese" I would say just "china"
[06:33] <EricNeon> I will change China to Chinese
[06:33] <EricNeon> can you look  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ ?
[06:34] <EricNeon> I edit it ,but I can't look out it now
[06:35] <EricNeon> This website maybe bloked by me,sorry!!!!
[06:40] <sabmoc> you cant edit the wiki? sometimes that happens
[06:41] <EricNeon> but maybe it is not my problem
[06:41] <sabmoc> I will try
[06:42] <EricNeon> help me!
[06:42] <sabmoc> ok, I fixed it, it says "china" now
[06:42] <sabmoc> maybe log out, close the browser, then try again
[06:43] <EricNeon> okthank
[06:43] <sabmoc> EricNeon, maybe we are going to have a chinese team in Canada someday
[06:44] <sabmoc> EricNeon, let me know if you ever meet someone from Ubuntu who is Chinese but living in Canada
[06:44] <sabmoc> EricNeon, my wife is chinese, but I am Canadian
[06:44] <EricNeon> I am never meet them
[06:45] <sabmoc> ok
[06:45] <EricNeon> ha~
[06:45] <sabmoc> :)
[06:51] <EricNeon> how long time you fix the wiki site?
[06:51] <EricNeon> I can't login now
[06:51] <sabmoc> very quick
[06:52] <sabmoc> how long does the page load for?
[06:52] <sabmoc> 30seconds? 10 seconds?
[06:53] <EricNeon> 10 sec
[06:57] <EricNeon> where is ubuntu web server?
[06:57] <EricNeon> USA?
[06:57] <EricNeon> or Germany
[06:57] <EricNeon> Site error
[06:58] <EricNeon> This site encountered an error trying to fulfill your request. The errors were:
[06:58] <EricNeon> Error Type
[06:58] <EricNeon>     AttributeError
[06:58] <EricNeon> Error Value
[06:58] <EricNeon>     FrontPage
[06:58] <EricNeon> Request made at
[06:58] <EricNeon>     2005/03/24 05:54:01.251 GMT
[06:59] <EricNeon> 
[07:00] <EricNeon> self-accusationing
[07:04] <EricNeon> are you ok
[07:08] <sabmoc> EricNeon, hi
[07:08] <sabmoc> EricNeon, I dont know where the server is located
[07:09] <EricNeon> ubuntu wiki is ok?
[07:09] <sabmoc> it looks ok to me
[07:10] <sabmoc> everything is ok for me
[07:10] <sabmoc> maybe there is some server lag near you
[07:10] <EricNeon> butI looks it as
[07:10] <EricNeon> Site error
[07:10] <EricNeon> This site encountered an error trying to fulfill your request. The errors were:
[07:10] <EricNeon> Error Type
[07:10] <EricNeon>     AttributeError
[07:10] <EricNeon> Error Value
[07:10] <EricNeon>     FrontPage
[07:10] <EricNeon> Request made at
[07:10] <EricNeon>     2005/03/24 06:03:38.984 GMT
[07:11] <sabmoc> I dont know
[07:11] <sabmoc> maybe ask in #ubuntu-devel
[07:12] <EricNeon> ohI will go to 
[07:45] <EricNeon> sabmoclook at ours kubuntu screenshotuse chinses UTF8 locale
[07:45] <EricNeon>  http://www.linuxsky.net/down/ftproot/incoming/f33k4/scrothot/01015.png
[07:52] <sabmoc> EricNeon, nice! :)
[07:55] <EricNeon> can you speek chinese?
[08:09] <sabmoc> EricNeon, no
[08:10] <EricNeon>  How could you wive a chinese girl?
[08:13] <sabmoc> same was as a Canadian girl, boy meets girl, boy falls in love, boy marrys girl. Simple.
[08:15] <EricNeon> hoho
[10:00] <jsgotangco> hello
[10:02] <EricNeon> hello
[10:04] <jsgotangco> salut enrico
[10:07] <enrico> jsgotangco: hi!
[10:08] <jsgotangco> hmmm wiki seems borked
[10:13] <EricNeon> 
[10:14] <jsgotangco> EricNeon: are you using a chinese keyboard?
[10:14] <EricNeon> US keyboard
[10:15] <EricNeon> there is no chinese keyboard in chinese pc
[10:15] <jsgotangco> ohhh i thought there was
[10:15] <EricNeon> we all used US
[10:16] <EricNeon> because linux users in chinese are all come from windows
[10:16] <jsgotangco> what is the biggest PC maker in China? Legend?
[10:16] <EricNeon> yes
[10:16] <EricNeon> legend
[10:18] <EricNeon> but never a pc make in Legend run linux
[10:18] <jsgotangco> we have acer and ecs here but those are taiwan brands but have red flag linux installed
[10:20] <EricNeon> hoho,red flag is a garbage
[10:20] <EricNeon> few pepole like use it 
[10:20] <jsgotangco> we overwrite them with ubuntu or slackware
[10:20] <Kinnison> sabmoc: I said what about a meeting?
[10:21] <jsgotangco> Sydney is easily one of the premier 'gay capitals' of the world. Every year, the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras is celebrated at the end of February, drawing people from all over Australia and the world for the celebrations.
[10:21] <jsgotangco> oohh good thing were coming on april
[10:24] <EricNeon> who manage ubuntu wiki?
[10:25] <jsgotangco> im beginning to hate our wiki
[10:25] <EricNeon> he will be sure to kill me
[10:26] <enrico> jsgotangco: that's normal
[10:26] <enrico> jsgotangco: add your issues to WikiWishlist and then you'll feel better for a while
[10:26] <enrico> ;)
[10:27] <jsgotangco> :D
[10:27] <jsgotangco> WikiRantList is more appropriate lol
[10:41] <jsgotangco> bbl
[10:51] <EricNeon> my wiki front page is still as "Site error"
[10:51] <EricNeon> I couldn't edit it
[11:00] <enrico> EricNeon: same here
[11:00] <enrico> Has it been notified to someone?
[11:01] <EricNeon> I had tell to jdub
[11:02] <EricNeon> but he said everthing is nice
[11:03] <EricNeon> who manager wiki site?
[11:03] <EricNeon> I'll mail to him
[11:19] <enrico>  < jdub> enrico: yes, being looked at atm
[11:19] <enrico> So they're looking at it
[11:21] <EricNeon> I talking about it with them
[11:50] <sabmoc> Kinnison, didnt you say that the CC might have a meeting sooner, but mostly likely it would be in at least 3 weeks?
[11:51] <Kinnison> sabmoc: I'm not on the CC
[11:51] <Kinnison> sabmoc: mako might have mentioned about it; but not me
[11:51] <sabmoc> lol, sorry I have you mixed up with Kamion
[11:52] <sabmoc> sorry about that
[11:53] <Kinnison> Mostly 'cos Kamion is sat across the table from me right now
[11:53] <sabmoc> HAH
[11:53] <sabmoc> thats really funny
[01:17] <froud> African Greetings
[01:18] <enrico> hello froud !
[01:18] <froud> he he 'ello
[01:18] <froud> upcapped at last
[01:18] <enrico> I had a chat with jdub and I'm restyling the debian packaging so that our documents are installed following the gnome standards
[01:19] <enrico> are you now the fastest .za-an on the web?
[01:19] <froud> OK, what about the KDE standards?
[01:19] <froud> no, just not capped anymore
[01:19] <enrico> I don't know anything about the KDE standards
[01:19] <froud> Hmm me niether
[01:20] <froud> normally a developer just does it
[01:22] <mdke> hi all
[01:22] <froud> mdke: hello
[01:22] <froud> cc: how you getting along
[01:22] <froud> cc: since our last chat
[01:22] <Burgundavia> salut
[01:22] <froud> Burgundavia: hozit dude
[01:22] <Burgundavia> not bad
[01:23] <Burgundavia> got my first package in Ubuntu
[01:23] <froud> Burgundavia: that means it could be better
[01:23] <froud> Burgundavia: cool which
[01:23] <Burgundavia> I have worked on so many the last few days, I don't remember
[01:23] <Burgundavia> but there is work on qtparted from me
[01:23] <Burgundavia> change to kdesu
[01:24] <froud> what change
[01:24] <Burgundavia> from gksudo to kdesu
[01:24] <froud> I am working on the docs for kntwork-conf
[01:24] <Burgundavia> cool
[01:24] <froud> Oh cool
[01:25] <Burgundavia> so actually looks native
[01:32] <Burgundavia> has everybody read the log?
[01:32] <Burgundavia> sm and I had a good discussion about fixing the wiki
[01:32] <froud> No have not, what did you decide
[01:33] <Burgundavia> not much
[01:33] <Burgundavia> he asked what the 3 biggest annoyances were
[01:33] <Burgundavia> he is zwiki dev
[01:33] <Burgundavia> we deferred at lot of stuff to post hoary, when we can have a fuller debate and make some hard decisions
[01:34] <Burgundavia> all the stakeholders, I mean
[01:36] <froud> Cool, anything about round-tripping?
[01:36] <Burgundavia> woot
[01:36] <Burgundavia> no nothing like that
[01:36] <froud> auh shucks
[01:37] <Burgundavia> we ran out of time on the 2nd thing
[01:37] <Burgundavia> I found a fix to my sound issues
[01:37] <froud> would be cool to have round tripping
[01:37] <Burgundavia> Quake3 and glest try and use /dev/dsp directly
[01:37] <froud> dont have any on Kubuntu machine cause I dont have a sound device :-)
[01:37] <Burgundavia> so I had to fill esd
[01:37] <Burgundavia> s/fill/kill
[01:38] <Burgundavia> I just found esddsp, which catches those requests and routes them through esd
[01:38] <Burgundavia> if it is not running, then the game dies because it cannot access /dev/dsp (as esd has it)
[01:51] <enrico> people, do you mind if I put about-ubuntu.xml into a subdirectory like the rest?
[01:51] <enrico> froud: ?
[01:52] <enrico> I have a problem because now I have to install it in a C directory, but doing so the various common, libs and so on would be ../common, ../libs
[01:53] <froud> enrico: no, go ahead
[01:53] <froud> makes sense to do so
[01:54] <enrico> great!
[01:59] <enrico> entity quickguide-rev not defined
[01:59] <enrico> and uhm... about-ubuntu has an image now.  Should do make imagelist for it as well
[02:00] <jsgotangco> ummm what happened to the wiki FrontPage?
[02:00] <enrico> jsgotangco: looks fixed now
[02:01] <jsgotangco> ah there
[02:01] <mdke> erm
[02:01] <mdke> from the FrontPage:
[02:01] <mdke> Please discuss any changes to the ChineseTeam on the  Documentation List BEFORE making them
[02:01] <jsgotangco> I KNOW
[02:02] <mdke> i'll revert it
[02:02] <jsgotangco> ill fix some parents as well
[02:02] <mdke> gimme a sec
[02:03] <enrico> these Chinese... always abusing wikis... :-)
[02:03] <mdke> lol
[02:03] <jsgotangco> lol
[02:03] <mdke> omg
[02:03] <jsgotangco> i guess he got so excited
[02:03] <enrico> froud: I committed my changes.  Could you tell me how come with make imagelist there's no build/aboutubuntu.txt showing up?
[02:03] <mdke> this bit is also a bit crazy:
[02:03] <mdke> Other Resources
[02:03] <mdke>     *
[02:03] <mdke>       Archive - sources.list configuration and CD image repository
[02:03] <mdke>     *
[02:03] <mdke>       {i} [wiki:XautoconfigurationDebug If automatic configuration of XFree86 doesn't work] 
[02:04] <jsgotangco> Eric Neon got pretty excited
[02:05] <mdke> lol
[02:05] <froud> enrico:  are there any pictures in aboutubuntu
[02:06] <mdke> who is Jane Silber?
[02:06] <enrico> froud: yes, one at least
[02:06] <enrico> ../images/IconUbuntu.png
[02:06] <enrico> mdke: Canonical's chief administrative something
[02:07] <jsgotangco> well its kinda fixed now
[02:07] <jsgotangco> its much better
[02:07] <mdke> ok well she seems to be fixing it
[02:07] <mdke> but she could just revert the changes ;)
[02:08] <enrico> froud: did you find it?
[02:08] <jsgotangco> is there something like a recycle thing on the wiki?
[02:08] <mdke> jsgotangco, 
[02:08] <mdke> yes
[02:08] <jsgotangco> yes sir
[02:08] <mdke> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/recycle_bin/name_of_page_you_want
[02:08] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[02:09] <mdke> jsgotangco, for pages which are deleted
[02:10] <enrico> froud: there's another problem with the &quickguide-rev; entity: it points to ../quickguide/VERSION, but when I install it, the quickguide is in a directory named "C"
[02:45] <enrico> froud: I solved it with a sub-optimal work-around
[02:52] <Kinnison> Jane says the wiki frontpage should be back now
[02:57] <froud> enrico: I am on the bongo-drums can chat now, will look at it
[02:58] <enrico> bongo-drums?
[03:00] <froud> enrico: telephone
[03:00] <enrico> ah, ok :)
[03:01] <enrico> froud: don't worry: everything works now (except the imagelist generation on the about-ubuntu)
[03:18] <froud> enrico: svn up and try it now. It should be fixed
[03:19] <froud> <!-- 
[03:19] <froud> -Enrico:Ihavetosimplifythese,orit'saproblemwhenIinstallthe 
[03:19] <froud> -packages:thefinaldirectorywherethedocumentationgoesiscalled"C",not 
[03:19] <froud> -"userguide","quickguide"andsoon. 
[03:19] <froud> - 
[03:19] <froud> -Asaquickfix,I'llhardcodethevalues. 
[03:20] <froud> enrico: I have planned for this with the next release
[03:20] <enrico> planned what?
[03:20] <froud> ^^
[03:20] <froud> leave it hard coded for now
[03:21] <enrico> Ok, good
[03:21] <enrico> I didn't like to put it hardcoded, but I could see no other way out
[03:21] <froud> when we restructure fo rgrumpy I take into account gnome/kde and the language files
[03:21] <froud> it's ok for now
[03:22] <froud> we need to rewrite and restructure stuff for next release, but only then
[03:22] <froud> does make imagelist work for you now;-)
[03:23] <enrico> yes, perfect, thanks!
[03:23] <froud> no prob
[03:26] <enrico> froud: I've committed the updates
[03:30] <froud> enrico: cool
[03:37] <froud> enrico: did the repository paths for hoary change or something
[03:40] <enrico> repository paths?  Not that I know of, why?
[03:41] <froud> synaptic cant find paths
[03:41] <enrico> try again
[03:41] <froud> did
[03:41] <enrico> When I was uploading the new package, it gave me "connection refused"
[03:41] <enrico> i retried and it worked
[03:41] <froud> third time
[03:41] <enrico> it may be that they're having problems
[03:41] <enrico> ah, oh, ok
[03:41] <enrico> try asking in #ubuntu, then
[03:42] <froud> ok
[04:42] <enrico> BuffaloSoldier: hello.  Did I read somewhere that you're Malaysian?
[04:42] <BuffaloSoldier> enrico: yes i am
[04:42] <enrico> Do you know Chua Wen-Kiat?  (the author of ubuntuguide.org) ?
[04:42] <BuffaloSoldier> enrico: no. i haven't had the opportunity to meet him
[04:42] <BuffaloSoldier> enrico: a lot of people are asking me about him though
[04:42] <enrico> ah, ok.  I tried sending him some mails, but he isn't answering
[04:43] <BuffaloSoldier> enrico: I'm not surprised, I think that guy has too much to handle at the moment :p
[04:43] <enrico> yes, that was my impression, too
[04:43] <enrico> ok, never mind, thanks!
[04:43] <BuffaloSoldier> enrico: I myself sent and email back in november 2004... until now no reply :P
[04:44] <mdke> lol
[04:44] <mdke> change of address?
[04:44] <enrico> well, he's been seriously sick for a while as well
[04:44] <mdke> ouch
[04:44] <enrico> then he came back, said he was great and back on rocking, then disappeared again :(
[04:48] <mdke> OT, is anyone familiar with gmane?
[06:59] <mdke> dudes
[06:59] <mdke> is anyone writing a definitive guide for upgrading warty -> hoary?
[07:15] <mdke> bump
[07:44] <mako> enrico: did you get that message from jane about the text in the about section? she had some criticisms
[07:45] <mako> it's a bit late but we need to change a few things.. i'm happy to make the change if nobody has yet
[07:59] <enrico> mako: hi
[07:59] <enrico> mako: jdub said he would post a review in the list
[07:59] <enrico> mako: however, if we wait for jdub we probably get to the night before release
[07:59] <enrico> mako: please do make all the changes you want
[07:59] <enrico> mako: the preferred way is:
[08:00] <enrico> 1) you checkout the repository
[08:00] <enrico> 2) you edit at will
[08:00] <enrico> 3) you post to the list the output of svn patch
[08:00] <enrico> mako: reviews and feedback are very very welcome
[08:00] <enrico> mako: esp. in the About Ubuntu, we've been asking for feedback for months now
[08:01] <mako> enrico: sounds good
[08:02] <mako> i've heard some doubt that jdub would get to it
[08:02] <mako> so i'll do it
[08:02] <enrico> mako: please.  Thanks a lot!
[08:02] <mako> enrico: yeah, i didn't see a problem with but jane and some other did
[08:02] <mako> well my brother is in the city for the next 3 hours only.. so it will be later this evneing :)
[10:03] <mdke> sm, ping