[03:28] <zul> hola
[03:30] <zul> so much pain not good..
[03:31] <lamont> whaddya do?
[03:31] <zul> well i tore a tendon in my knee a couple of weeks ago and tonight i was playing indoor soccer
[03:33] <zul> so right now my knee is kind of puffy
[04:03] <zul> night..
[06:32] <fabbione> mjg59: still aroung?
[06:32] <fabbione> morning guys
[07:28] <fabbione> mjg59: http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/12/17/187
[07:29] <fabbione> mjg59: this patch has a possible 3com fix for suspend resume. i must know if it looks sane or not
[10:05] <mjg59> fabbione: Just the 3com bit of it? It looks ok
[10:06] <fabbione> mjg59: ok.. too bad it won't make for haory :(
[10:55] <dilinger> fabbione: ping
[11:07] <fabbione> dilinger: pong
[11:09] <dilinger> http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2005/03/msg00527.html
[11:10] <dilinger> curious what your thoughts are on that
[11:10] <dilinger> scroll to the end; the ABI stuff
[11:11] <fabbione> reading now
[11:12] <fabbione> >   5) we add support for the series patch handling support which is
[11:12] <fabbione> >   superior to the ubuntu one.
[11:12] <fabbione> this is true...
[11:13] <fabbione> >   6) we add support for per-arch/subarch patchsets, which is needed for
[11:13] <fabbione> >   replacing the current kernels.
[11:13] <fabbione> so do we
[11:13] <fabbione> at least per-arch
[11:14] <fabbione> i don't like the idea of patches per subarch
[11:14] <fabbione> already the patch per arch is stupid...
[11:14] <fabbione> but we need to support it
[11:14] <dilinger> ok, but.. that's not really what i'm interested in :)
[11:14] <fabbione> subarch should be part of arch
[11:14] <fabbione> yeah i am reading all of it :-)
[11:18] <fabbione> hmm yes
[11:18] <fabbione> i like the idea of building at install time, but that would bloat a bit
[11:19] <fabbione> specially on Ubuntu where we don't ship gcc :-)
[11:19] <fabbione> or install rather
[11:19] <dilinger> when i wrote that, i wasn't really thinking about d-i
[11:19] <dilinger> i'm not sure how that would be handled
[11:19] <fabbione> d-i needs a rebuild at datacenter/buildd level
[11:20] <dilinger> d-i could probably be special-cased
[11:20] <fabbione> as well
[11:20] <fabbione> i still need to sit down and think on the best way to handle it
[11:20] <dilinger> have udebs generated using the old method, so you end up w/ udebs that contain third party kernel modules.. 
[11:21] <dilinger> during install, grab the foo-source packages so that the next kernel upgrade doesn't forget to rebuild the modules?
[11:21] <fabbione> but i think there should be some kind of /etc/kernel-modules-hooks.d/
[11:21] <fabbione> that has a makefile or a bash script or whatever to install the thirdy part modules
[11:22] <fabbione> also the option to check what is in /lib/modules/<kernel> that does not belong to the old package might give an idea
[11:23] <dilinger> suck, almost 5:30am
[11:23] <fabbione> eheh
[11:25] <fabbione> go back to work :-)
[11:27] <dilinger> hehe.  i've got a deadline.  the guy who gave this to me is going to ask for a status update at a poker game tonight ;)
[11:28] <fabbione> ehehe
[01:18] <jbailey> lamont: Around?
[01:35] <fabbione> bah
[01:35] <fabbione> we need to get -31 out too
[01:35] <fabbione> today
[01:40] <fabbione> dilinger: ping?
[01:44] <fabbione> dilinger: boot net ramdisk_size=32000 rootfstype=ext2 works perfectly here
[01:44] <fabbione> (sparc netboot)
[01:46] <fabbione> ok this is weird....
[01:48] <fabbione> we have a stolen-from-head_ppc32--uninorth-agp-suspend.dpatch
[01:48] <fabbione> that has been there since my grandma was born
[01:48] <fabbione> and never applied
[02:12] <fabbione> dilinger: anyway sparc can't install because of sparc.u.c being freezed
[02:39] <fabbione> hi zul
[02:39] <zul> fabbione: hey...the 3com stuff is already for a while but a user says it doesnt work 
[02:40] <fabbione> ok
[02:40] <fabbione> -30 is up
[02:40] <fabbione> i am preparing -31
[02:40] <fabbione> there is an extra security fix
[02:40] <zul> yeah saw that..the mirrors must hate you
[02:40] <fabbione> and i am unfucking the uninorth-agp-sleep patch
[02:40] <zul> did it fuck up?
[02:41] <fabbione> well the patch was never applied to the source in the first place
[02:41] <fabbione> there were 2 copies of them in debian/patches
[02:41] <fabbione> none of them applied
[02:41] <fabbione> and it FTBFS
[02:41] <zul> heh...crap
[02:41] <fabbione> because the patch is full of typos
[02:42] <zul> doh...
[02:43] <fabbione> anyway for -31 ia64/amd64 are go
[02:43] <fabbione> ppc is building now
[02:43] <zul> cool...
[02:43] <fabbione> i386 is go
[02:54] <lamont> jbailey: I replied to t-bone's email, if that's the question
[02:54] <fabbione> lamont: "crunchy corn"?
[02:55] <fabbione> for -31?
[02:55] <lamont> fabbione: works for me
[02:56] <zul> heh crunchy frog sounds better but its against the rules ;)
[02:57] <fabbione> ok -31 will be up pretty soon
[02:57] <fabbione> but i won't make the baz dance.. i need to go after
[02:57] <jbailey> lamont: Yup,thx. =)
[02:57] <fabbione> it is national holiday and i haven't spent 5 minutes with my wife
[02:58] <zul> hah
[03:00] <fabbione> hmm i forgot to give a release name to -30
[03:00] <fabbione> any idea on the fly?
[03:00] <fabbione> The "Fried Frogs" Release ?
[03:00] <fabbione> or Fancy Frogs ?
[03:01] <lamont> too french.
[03:01] <lamont> :)
[03:01] <fabbione> ok.. another one...
[03:01] <lamont> oh. wait.  ENOTBONE
[03:01] <fabbione> ehehehe
[03:01] <zul> crunchy cream
[03:01] <fabbione> no we have crunchy already
[03:01] <lamont> already got crunchy corn 
[03:02] <fabbione> Radioactive Rosbeaf ?
[03:02] <lamont> fabbione: whirled peas?
[03:02] <zul> yellow yams
[03:02] <lamont> blue bacon?
[03:02] <zul> blasted bacon
[03:02] <lamont> atomic artichoke?
[03:02] <fabbione> ahah
[03:02] <zul> heh
[03:02] <fabbione> atomic++
[03:02] <lamont> burnt bacon?
[03:03] <zul> ++
[03:03] <lamont> atomic artichoke is bonnie's - I like it/
[03:03] <zul> same
[03:03] <lamont> anyway, running away
[03:04] <fabbione> lamont: later
[03:05] <zul> buh bye
[03:06] <zul> so much email so little time
[03:11] <zul> no one in their right mind should be using dosfsck
[03:11] <fabbione> no one in their right mind should have a vfat partition
[03:11] <zul> stupid windows users
[03:15] <fabbione> upload on the way
[03:15] <zul> swwet
[03:20] <fabbione> it's up
[03:21] <zul> yay...go spend time with your wife now
[03:21] <zul> or she will have your balls
[03:21] <fabbione> i am waiting for the mails
[03:21] <fabbione> she already has them :)
[03:21] <zul> well then you arent missing much then
[03:21] <fabbione> eehhehe
[03:22] <fabbione> there they are
[03:22] <fabbione> i am off
[03:22] <zul> if we have any problems we wont call...yeah right :)
[03:22] <zul> c ya
[03:22] <fabbione> please remind lamont to do the baz dance
[03:22] <zul> ok
[03:22] <fabbione> otherwise there is no --pre32
[03:23] <fabbione> cya
[03:23] <zul> have a good weekend
[03:32] <zul> lamont: baz dance
[04:12] <lamont> /dev/sda1       /boot/efi       vfat    defaults,noauto         0       0
[04:12] <lamont> stupid boot loaders
[04:12] <zul> heh
[04:12] <zul> dance dance dance hah1
[04:13] <lamont> does that mean that fabbione uplaoded -31?
[04:13] <zul> heh
[04:13] <lamont> bad fabbione - releaseing from --pre31
[04:14] <zul> Subject: Accepted linux-source-2.6.10 2.6.10-31 (source)
[04:15] <lamont> yeah yeah
[04:17] <lamont> any selections for -32's name? or do we wait for content?
[04:18] <lamont> interesting.
[04:19] <lamont> because _I_ did change it... dammit
[04:19] <lamont> baz switch kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--mainline--2.6.10
[04:19] <lamont> baz merge kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre31--2.6.10
[04:19] <lamont> baz commit
[04:19] <lamont> baz branch kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre32--2.6.10
[04:19] <lamont> is short dance
[04:26] <lamont> GCC ICE on ppc... woot!
[04:26] <lamont> feh
[04:26] <lamont> SIGILL
[04:30] <zul> heh sucker
[04:31] <zul> for the universe kernels couldnt we just reysync with debian?
[04:42] <lamont> which ones?
[04:43] <zul> gimme a sec
[04:44] <zul> linux-source 2.6.8
[04:45] <zul> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniverseUnmetDeps
[04:46] <lamont> zul: well, debian calls that kernel-source-2.6.8, so, um,no.
[04:48] <zul> um...ok 
[04:51] <lamont> and I think we specifically dropped that kernel from hoary with predjudice
[04:51] <lamont> we maintain it for warty,  but no sense promising an extra 6 months when it's old...
[04:51] <lamont> (dist release date + 18 months minimum)
[04:51] <zul> ok...well its way before my time
[04:52] <lamont> so one can expect to see 2.6.10 dropped from breezy, I expect.
[04:52] <zul> true
[05:02] <zul> bbl new furniture
[06:20] <zul> its nice to have new furninture
[07:13] <fabbione> re
[07:14] <fabbione> lamont: why there are so many i386 build of -31?
[07:15] <lamont> fabbione: don't ask.
[07:15] <lamont> you'll note they're all duplicates
[07:15] <lamont> I may clean them up sometime
[07:15] <fabbione> i don't want to know than :-)
[07:16] <fabbione> it's missing ia64...
[07:29] <zul> i have achieved office fengi shui
[07:41] <lamont> ia64 build takes 7+ hours, for starters.
[07:42] <fabbione> ok
[07:49] <zul> that was a pretty quick vacation fabbione 
[07:49] <fabbione> zul: well i have to spend time with my wife
[07:49] <fabbione> it doesn't mean i am leaving the house (or that i am allowed to do so :))
[07:50] <zul> heh
[07:50] <fabbione> but i think i am going to cook some food soon
[07:50] <fabbione> i will pass by later
[07:55] <lamont> Thu Mar 24 18:55:39 GMT 2005
[07:55] <lamont> linux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-31_20050324-1456 06:48:29 (8 entries, sigma 01:56:36)
[08:53] <dilinger> fabbione: hm, maybe 2.6.10 breaks it or something?  this is a sunfire 280
[09:39] <jbailey> fabbione: jb@justBE.com reassigned 1440 to you.  It's not obvious why from the commit log since it's an "it's working" message.  Is there any reason you want this kept open?
[10:04] <zul> does someone have amd64 and sata handy and they dma turned on their hard drives?
[10:08] <zul> damn...im late...c ya later
[10:52] <jbailey> mjg59: Funny that I came across your postings in a forum while looking for info on the suspend signatures in the swap file. =)
[10:52] <mjg59> jbailey: Haha
[10:52] <mjg59> To Nigel Cunningham?
[10:53] <jbailey> mjg59: Yeah, starting at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/525303?page=last
[10:53] <mjg59> Yeah, he's obsessed with doing it all in the kernel
[10:54] <jbailey> Yeah, I wne tthrough his pages first before realising it wasn't the implmenetation in the kernel.