[12:01] doko, I let you think about it :-) [12:01] ++ [12:04] dholbach: gcc-2.95 _WANTS_ to die [12:04] and in fact, you can't fix it... (it needs bootstrap love, which I will only give it under duress) [12:04] gcc-3.2 too? === sPoof [~jonas@cpe.atm2-0-1301001.0x503f72d6.ronxx2.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:04] yep [12:04] doko approved it, but i wasnt sure [12:04] rocking [12:05] i'll tell elmo [12:05] well, 3.2 won't build - if you look at it, you'll find that there's a circular dep-wait [12:05] dholbach: make sure you use the actual words "wants to die" :) [12:05] how'd it get installed on i386... === dredg grrs [12:06] 23.00 and haven't eaten yet. ok, stopping work for today. === dredg orders food and peruses the list of things === Slant [~scott@w075111.wireless.fsr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:07] hrm.. actually, I might should maybe bootstrap gnat where I can... doko? thoughts? [12:07] What is the proper method of reporting Universe bugs? Or perhaps, a better question, where was I supposed to look to find out how? I wasn't able to find anything. [12:07] malone :) [12:07] it's your friend. [12:07] mmmm [12:08] happy... [12:08] *ahem* [12:08] sladen: it will be http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone , but for now, it's either this channel or ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com [12:08] argl [12:08] Slant: it will be http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone , but for now, it's either this channel or ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com [12:08] Ahh, ok. [12:09] Should I try using malone irght now, or just e-mail the list? [12:13] Slant: malone! [12:13] I tried. No access. === Slant shrugs. === sabdfl [~mark@185.16.202.62.fix.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:15] dholbach: UniversePriorityList is great :) [12:15] good === koke subscribing :) [12:16] :-) === sPoof [~jonas@cpe.atm2-0-1301001.0x503f72d6.ronxx2.customer.tele.dk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:19] dholbach: how did you made it? [12:19] some script? [12:19] i chucked the list together and then used a python script by mvo :-) [12:20] can you pass me that stuff, it'd be great to have info about what has to be done for each package [12:20] or at least, what transition/section does it belongs to [12:22] just a sec [12:24] anyone want to upload f-spot? [12:24] i completely lost track of what to upload [12:24] so just give it over here [12:24] :-) [12:24] url? [12:24] well you cant get to my site [12:26] hi === nohar [~nohar@je.suis.t1r.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Slant [~scott@w075111.wireless.fsr.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:29] UniversePriorityList looks big [12:35] it is due to UniverseDoesNotBuild [12:35] (which is not finished itself) === tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:36] tseng: how do i get them? [12:37] http://getsweaaa.com/~tseng/f-spot/ if you can [12:37] if you cant i guess i will have to put it somewhere else [12:38] cant [12:38] smarterits.com/~brandon/f-spot [12:39] uh [12:40] wtf === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@87-mia-9.acn.waw.pl] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [~travis@amaranth.user] has left #ubuntu-motu ["If] === Amaranth [~travis@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:37] tseng: were you the mono guy? [01:38] koke, he still is [01:38] ok, so I guess you also maintain tomboy [01:38] http://www.reigndropsfall.net/index.php?itemid=149 [01:38] " [01:38] Hmm, that Tomboy icon is really out of place (for any icon theme). If only theyd use a sane icon like the one that Jakub made a couple of months back" [01:38] what do you think about that?? [01:39] we could include a new HIG compliant icon in the ubuntu package while upstream realises the icon needs to be changed :) [01:39] koke: i think ive asked him to give me a working patch for it [01:39] and i give him credit, he took a nice stab at it [01:39] but it doesnt work [01:40] if anyone else has hacked in a new icon, ill happily take it.. dont really have time to waste on it [01:45] http://jimmac.musichall.cz/weblog.php/Artwork/LowresTomboy <-- the icons are missing :( [02:17] test-building wxwidgets2.5-2.5.3.2ubuntu3 (fixes FTBFS on ppc, which is holding up at least wxvlc) [02:19] libnet-ph-perl fixed [02:21] yay+# [02:24] looking at xlockmore [02:25] bah, morgue, we have a screensaver *g* [02:26] it seems to be quite popular on the debian end [02:26] hehe, was kidding...i know [02:26] oh... forgot the smiley :-) === scotth [~scotth@157.182.195.244] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:30] xlockmore looks goooood [02:32] what about icewm? [02:32] is it fixed? [02:41] tseng: http://koke.amedias.org/2005/03/24/tintin-is-not-hig-compliant/ [02:41] dholbach: did you have luck prioritizing according to the popcon data? [02:41] do you like that? [02:42] mdz: YEAH! wiki/UniversePriorityList [02:43] dholbach: that list looks just right; great work [02:43] mdz: but the list is as incomplete as wiki/UniverseDoesNotBuild - since the rebuilds will still be taking 2-3 days [02:43] kdebase is in main now [02:44] koke: dude jimmac made icons [02:44] mdz: yeah, it's not perfect and i'll try to poke the right people :-) [02:44] it builds and is installable, too [02:44] koke: they just need a patch to a few files [02:44] tseng: where the hell they are?? [02:44] mdz: must be still on one of the lists (python could be) [02:44] koke: one minute dude [02:44] http://jimmac.musichall.cz/weblog.php/Artwork/LowresTomboy <-- the icons are missing :( [02:44] its on his blog way back [02:45] oh, damn [02:45] if you guys can get only the top 25% or so of that list, I think you'll be in good shape [02:46] i can't stop the constant-headache i have, when i think about all the broken packages (and those to come) [02:46] try not to worry about the ones to come; we'll make it easy to exclude them from reports [02:47] from user reports to? :-) === koke goes for icewm, great wm :) [02:49] it seems just lacks a build-dep on libxinerama-dev [02:51] koke: quite likely, actually === ogra is impressed by the cleanness of the afterstep package... === koke pbuilding icewm [02:55] dholbach, didnt you talk about libdumb yesterday ? i thought you touched it [02:55] erm [02:55] i think i uploaded it already [02:55] its still on the X lost [02:55] list [02:56] chuck it out [02:56] please [02:56] [libdumb_0.9.2-5ubuntu1.dsc] [02:56] dholbach, sure :) [02:58] think I'll take a look at x2vnc, I know a bunch of peeps that use it [02:58] schweeb: I use it sometimes [02:58] actually I'm not sure if I use x2vnc or x11vnc [02:59] it's in the fails to build list ;) [03:00] x2vnc allows you to control a remote display using VNC protocol with your local X keyboard and mouse [03:00] similar to synergy, etc... [03:00] koke: if you recall jimmacs hd crashed [03:01] looking at ntop [03:01] x11vnc exports your X session for control [03:04] since I've never tried fixing any of these packages before - the source that failed to build is the same you get with apt-get source X? or are those sources stored elsewhere [03:05] apt-get source is fine [03:05] k, good [03:06] good night all === tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [03:09] cool, think I figured out x2vnc already :D [03:10] did ajmitch fix licq? [03:11] ah no.. he's working on it [03:11] is still tagged in the xosd list... [03:11] standard naming convention is to add -ubuntuX onto the end of the debian version, right? [03:12] no dash [03:12] k [03:12] schweeb: what typ of package is it? [03:12] blah-1.2.3-1 becomes blah-1.2.3-1ubuntu1 [03:12] native package? [03:12] no .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz? [03:13] no, it's not native [03:13] alright [03:14] debiain version is x2vnc 1.6-3, so new version would be x2vnc 1.6-3ubuntu1 [03:14] *debian [03:14] yup [03:15] looking at 3ddesktop [03:16] lintian complains about capital letter/article as first word in description, fix or leave alone? [03:16] the latter [03:16] hehe, the first :) [03:16] if it's your package or you plan to maintain it, ... :-) [03:16] schweeb, up to you [03:16] dissension among the ranks! === thoreauputic_ [~debianarc@wolax7-012.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mramm [~mark@pcp09227548pcs.sanarb01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] yes, I guess if it gets synced with debian again, it'd be a kinda pointless fix [03:17] it's the workload, that makes us less anal === ogra has to often discussed with elmo about lintian warnings of NEW packages.... [03:18] s/us/me [03:18] so i try to avoid them always [03:18] lamont, ping [03:18] that gsf-sharp package passes lintian, except for the netlibs thing that it doesn't know about ;) [03:18] hope we get a new lintian soon ;-) === koke getting asleep [03:19] night koke === dholbach gives koke a cookie === ogra gives koke a pillow [03:19] I'll put icewm into th list tomorrow if it builds while I'm dreaming [03:19] koke: you rock [03:19] may I remove modconf from UniversePriorityList? It doesn't exist in Ubuntu. [03:20] it does [03:20] yeah, koke, that was really a nice workday from your side, respect [03:20] apt-cache showsrc modconf [03:20] what the [03:20] unfortunately [03:20] it's for the 2.4-kernels [03:20] crimsun, we also have kernel 2.4 [03:20] ogra: I just want a script to generate all the .desktop files :) [03:21] yeah [03:21] argh, does it even build? [03:21] koke: i want a fix-all-broken-builds-script [03:21] ogra: ak [03:21] maybe my target for tomorrow === crimsun checks buildLogs [03:21] dholbach: but you have to begin at something [03:21] :D [03:21] at broken-builds ;-) [03:21] schweeb: I should really fix that same lintian error in postfix, eh? [03:22] lamont, how hard would it be to add a http-refresh meta tag to the http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html page, my ctrl and R keys start getting glossy [03:22] 3ddeskop fixed [03:22] lamont: hah [03:22] ok, sounds reasonable [03:22] ogra: uh, tell me what it should say... :-) [03:22] yes [03:22] easy [03:22] ? [03:22] wait... [03:23] hrm.. will actually be work.. [03:23] today, the file consists of nothing but one-line-per-logfile, appended blindly as I go... [03:23] no , etc. [03:24] now I'm gonna have to notice that I'm starting a new file... [03:24] and if you tell me I have to tack something on the end of it, that'll be annoying enough to not do it.. :-( [03:25] in the header put something like [03:25] ah, no head, darn [03:26] well, can I have a head, but no tags? [03:26] hmm, might work.... [03:26] xlockmore_1:5.13-2ubuntu1_20050324-0219-amd64-successful
[03:26] i'm confused, how do i add something to MOTUNewPackages? [03:26] that's what the current lines all look like... [03:27] Amaranth: login (upper right), then click on edit above the page. [03:27] poking xdiskusage === ogra looks at the code [03:27] no, i know that [03:27] where do i add it? [03:27] oh. a harder question. sihg. [03:27] that first table with my name as NEW Maintainer? [03:27] in the table [03:27] yeah [03:27] alright, I got x2vnc fixed... I'm gonna upload to my site... should I sign the pkgs or what? (and how to do so manually) === lamont searched for a while to find the login button, you see... [03:28] schweeb: just upload it [03:28] k [03:28] lamont, i'll think about it, probably a frameset or something ..... tell you tomorrow .... [03:28] schweeb: if you dpkg-buildpackage, it defaults to signing, [03:28] otherwise, debsign is your firiend [03:28] my firefox is crashing very strangely today [03:28] ogra: sure [03:28] dholbach: could you please update http://amedias.org/~koke/misc/UniversePackagesWithoutDesktopFile for me?? [03:28] koke, thom just built 1.0.2 [03:29] I've extracted the window managers from the list [03:29] ogra: I guess it's a mozex problem [03:29] when I click the textarea it freezes eating my cpu [03:29] oh, youre using extensions... [03:29] schweeb: be sure to tell elmo he should whitelist your emailadress === Amaranth looks at https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUNewPackages :) [03:30] ah great afterstep is done... [03:30] koke: what shall i change? [03:31] just replace the wiki page with the URL's content [03:31] why dont you do it yourself? [03:31] dont you have a wiki account by now? :-) [03:31] when I click the textarea it freezes eating my cpu [03:31] oh nice [03:31] alright [03:32] I can try tomorrow anyway [03:32] but I've killed firefox about ten times in the last minutes [03:32] koke: 1.0.2 is in main. [03:33] crimsun: yeah, and update-notifier is telling me I have 241 updates [03:33] but I usually update at the university :) [03:33] koke: done [03:33] and I'm on holidays now :) [03:33] dholbach: thanks [03:33] de rien [03:33] where should I document that I've fixed this package now? [03:34] debian/changelog [03:34] \m/ [03:34] http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/w/wxwidgets2.5/2.5.3.2ubuntu3/wxwidgets2.5_2.5.3.2ubuntu3_20050324-0138-powerpc-successful [03:34] ypopup.cc:118:2: warning: #warning "FIXME: this logic needs rethink" [03:34] icewm comments are quite curious [03:34] dholbach, that != what [03:34] dholbach: I mean to tell others that I've fixed the package, so they don't duplicate work [03:34] ahhhhhhhh ok [03:34] ;) [03:34] schweeb, on which wiki page did you find it ? [03:35] UniversePriorityList [03:35] xdiskusage fixed [03:35] should I do it on there, or on UniverseTODO [03:35] hmm, must be on another list too [03:35] err MotuTODO [03:36] crimsun, with gtk2 ? [03:36] ogra: DoesNotBuild [03:36] ogra: yep. [03:36] wooot [03:36] schweeb, then there...and rip it off the Priority list [03:37] wtf is the diff between "Done" or "Taken Care Of" [03:37] dholbach, ? [03:37] if it has passed all 4 buildds on http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html [03:37] w0w, I was already tired anough but this http://www.burtonini.com/blog//life/india-2005-03-24-02-18 ... [03:37] then it's done [03:38] is "Taken Care Of" where you speak for the fact that you intend to fix something? [03:38] yeah or you fixed it and hope the buildds say the same :-) [03:38] forgive my green-ness, I'm just trying to do shit right the first time, and learn quickly [03:39] schweeb: you're doing admirably well [03:39] pbuilder is cleaning!!! icewm fixed [03:39] schweeb, six months ago we werent better ;) [03:39] i was worse [03:39] I'll sleep really tight [03:39] kinda helps that I've used debian day-in/day-out for the last 2 years [03:40] as an admin and an desktop user [03:40] yeah === ogra has his last cigarette... [03:43] nearly 4am [03:43] icewm uploaded, see you [03:44] I'm running out of batteries :) [03:44] bye [03:44] hmm, we probably should announce malone in ubuntu-users [03:44] koke [03:44] bye [03:45] dholbach, i've given up to try this, he's always gone to fast if he says that :) [03:45] argh,I really wish there was a way to stay always logged into the wiki [03:48] schweeb: i'll upload your packgae, right? [03:48] yea [03:49] i'll check it :-) [03:49] http://schweeb.org/~chris/ubuntu [03:49] unstable -> hoary [03:49] in the changelog [03:49] apart from that... good [03:49] err whoops === schweeb blushes === Amaranth is going to feel really stupid [03:50] not to worry :-) [03:50] there are tools that generate all this stuff, aren't there? [03:50] the control and changelog and etc [03:50] dh_make and friends [03:50] schweeb: i change and upload it, right? [03:50] dholbach: you mean you're fixing it, or you want me to? [03:51] schweeb: dch -i Dhoary <--- helps [03:51] hah, i took the files from pymusique and have been modifying them by hand [03:51] schweeb: i do it and spare you the pain [03:51] heh [03:51] alright, cool [03:51] schweeb: you tested it? it installs? [03:52] yes [03:52] rock [03:53] uploaded [03:53] cool :) [03:53] man, editing the wiki sucks... I can't get ffox to search the textboxes [03:53] schweeb: take a seat in the back row and enjoy: lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hoary-changes/2005-March/thread.html and http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html [03:53] Amaranth, be carful with that, one tends to make errors or leave old junk in....better use the debhelper scripts [03:54] ogra: *shrug*, all i really had to do was change every pymusique to menueditor and edit the control file [03:54] both are python apps that install the same way [03:55] dholbach: :D [03:55] Amaranth, try building it in pbuilder and let lintian check it... [03:55] lintian? [03:55] yup [03:55] lintian rocks [03:55] did my 200th upload *headbang* [03:56] nice! === ogra applauds dholbach [03:56] why do i need pbuilder to use lintian? [03:56] Amaranth: as a packager you need both [03:56] pbuilder to build packages in a clean environment, lintian to perform nitpicking-checks [03:57] Amaranth, pbuilder cares for the building like the buildd does, lintianb chacks for all the other chacks [03:57] outch, time for bed i think... [03:57] s/chacks/cracks ;-) [03:58] dholbach, come on, 4am, i'm allowed to make typos... [03:58] dholbach: so I need to tell elmo to whitelist my email? is that for when I start being able to upload stuff on my own (hopefully eventually), or do I need to it now? [03:58] you don't need it [03:58] but it's nicer [03:58] because 1) you get a receipt mail by the buildd 2) you appear with your full name on hoary-changes [03:58] and 3) elmo asked for it [03:59] k [03:59] and 4) you get reject notices [03:59] if any [03:59] schweeb, you'll see your packages even before you are allowed to upload, e.g. when dholbach uploads for you, you get katies nice ACCEPTED/REJECTED mails [03:59] so just ping him tomorrow, tell him your name and mail adress and that you're going to be rocking MOTU soon [03:59] alright [04:00] elmo's in the UK? what's the time offset between US->UK I always forget [04:01] 8h ? [04:01] where are you based, schweeb? [04:01] donno exactly and i guess it depends if youre west or east [04:01] k, sounds about right [04:01] EST [04:01] schweeb: he's approximately 5-6 hours ahead of you [04:01] we're (EST) -0500 GMT [04:02] whee, running pbuilder [04:02] ok, time to test on amd64. Sigh. [04:02] crimsun, sigh ? [04:02] ah, it's based off Greenwich... /me never even connected the 2 [04:03] ogra: I've been burned by 64-bit so many times that I just make it a point to compile on both arches now [04:03] err, i386 and amd64 [04:03] ah... i dont compile on 32bit anymore :) [04:03] :) [04:04] I need to get a 64bit machine [04:04] ok pals, i'm off to bed [04:04] good night [04:04] night [04:04] bye daniel [04:04] night dholbach, i'll follow up right away [04:04] crimsun: so you're EST? where you at? MI here [04:04] *wave* [04:04] schweeb: NC [04:05] nice [04:05] night all [04:05] night oliver [04:08] nice. guess I have "unstable" in my gsf-sharp package too [04:08] whoops [04:11] is there a config setting in devscripts.conf or something where I can tell it to always use hoary? [04:11] heh, pbuilder just found me an error in my control file :P [04:11] i forgot to build depend on python-dev [04:12] which is the point of pbuilder ;) [04:12] Amaranth: python2.4-dev, currently, please [04:12] oh, i just did python-dev (>= 2.4) [04:12] ok, that'll work [04:13] ok, so how do i use lintian? [04:13] lintian blah.deb [04:13] and I think you can do lintian -c blah.changes to check from a changes file... [04:15] http://rafb.net/paste/results/kXgVVQ88.html <--d'oh [04:16] are any of those serious? [04:17] all very easy to fix [04:17] `lintian -i' will give you full descriptions [04:18] well, i don't have a man page :P [04:18] write one [04:18] heh, can it just say the command and a short description? [04:18] there isn't anything else to it [04:21] if it's missing a man page, that's not RC [04:21] (release-critical) [04:21] you should definitely look into implementing one, however [04:21] i can make one, once i learn how :P [04:22] it's very straightforward [04:28] i've got it down to just the man page [04:28] i'll make one of those and upload -2 for consideration for universe === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-040-195.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgaway [~Burgundav@S0106000bdbb5820d.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_ [~ajmitch@port162-45.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:41] meh, i suck at creating man pages [04:41] ugh, this ethereal source is organized hideously [04:43] ok, -2 uploaded without a man page [04:53] is it appropriate to put a strict python2.4 dep in the build-deps? [04:53] yes [04:53] where it's currently just "python" [04:53] (no version whatsoever) [04:53] okay === schweeb is looking into ethereal/ethereal-dev [04:54]