[01:38] <EricNeon> morning all
[01:38] <mdke> hi EricNeon 
[01:38] <EricNeon> hi
[01:41] <mdke> EricNeon, you made some slightly odd changes to the wiki this morning
[01:42] <mdke> *yesterday
[01:42] <EricNeon> yes
[01:42] <EricNeon> I add a chinese table
[01:42] <mdke> if you make a mistake, you can revert the changes easily
[01:42] <mdke> i mean, to the Front Page of the wiki
[01:43] <EricNeon> but when I select "undo",the wiki is down
[01:43] <EricNeon> and I couldn't login
[01:44] <mdke> hmm
[01:44] <mdke> strange
[01:44] <EricNeon> 
[01:45] <mdke> i cant see those characters
[01:46] <EricNeon> I tald this happen to jdub yestaday ,he should say "everthing is nice"
[01:48] <EricNeon> todaythe front page of wiki seems ok
[01:48] <mdke> yes it seems they have made a new one
[01:49] <EricNeon> so graveness
[01:53] <mdke> ?
[01:53] <EricNeon> today ,I should edit my ubuntu-zh.org
[02:03] <mdke> lol
[02:03] <mdke> enrico, was that you moderating that msg through?
[02:03] <mdke> i feel like such a dick
[02:04] <enrico> mdke: yes
[02:04] <enrico> I just moderated it in
[02:04] <enrico> I received the notification of the message just now, though
[02:05] <mdke> sorry :(
[02:05] <enrico> mdke: for what?
[02:05] <mdke> enrico, i sent an email a few minutes ago about the FrontPage
[02:05] <enrico> oh, don't worry
[02:05] <mdke> have now retracted it ;)
[02:06] <mdke> enrico, come mai sveglio?
[02:06] <enrico> mdke: non per molto :)
[02:06] <mdke> bravo
[02:06] <mdke> neanche io
[02:06] <enrico> I was just closing stuff and going to bed
[02:06] <mdke> k
[02:06] <mdke> EricNeon, it seems that the FrontPage was accidentally deleted yesterday
[02:06] <enrico> had a productive day, all things considered
[02:07] <mdke> EricNeon, it was down for 7 hours, so that is why you couldn't access it
[02:07] <mdke> enrico, yeah? glad to hear it :)
[02:09] <mdke> heh
[02:09] <EricNeon> yes I made it down since 11:00(+8:00)
[02:09] <mdke> hmm
[02:10] <enrico> EricNeon: not necessarily it is your fault
[02:11] <EricNeon> 
[02:11] <mdke> EricNeon, we can't read those characters: 
[02:12] <EricNeon>  what characters?
[02:12] <mdke> these ones: "EricNeon: "
[02:15] <EricNeon> oh, this meens smile in chinese network
[02:15] <EricNeon>  meens  smile,        and  :-(  meens  agony
[02:16] <mdke> they appear as distorted characters because I don't have the chinese locale installed
[02:21] <EricNeon> I used zh_CN.UTF-8
[02:22] <mdke> yeah
[03:28] <mdke> mako, hi
[03:55] <mako> ergh
[03:56] <mako> EricNeon: did you figure out what caused teh problem with the frontpage
[03:56] <mako> EricNeon: it's clear you did not intend wrong but I've heard that it probably was you that made the misstep
[03:57] <EricNeon> ok
[03:58] <EricNeon> at first,I want make a wiki for my ubuntu-zh team
[03:58] <EricNeon> so I look at wiki for help
[03:58] <mako> cool
[03:58] <mako> well, in most cases, it can be reverted automatically
[03:58] <mako> but for some reason i don't understand, it couldn't be this morning
[03:59] <mako> the important thing is that you know what happened so you don't do it again :)
[03:59] <mako> we clearly want to see a wiki for the ubuntu-zh team! :)
[03:59] <mako> EricNeon: in any case, we can get a wiki set up for you on a server we are using for loco teams
[03:59] <EricNeon> thank you 
[03:59] <mako> EricNeon: have you been in contact with matthias urlichs?
[04:00] <mako> EricNeon: if not, give me your email address and i'll send you an email introducing you guys
[04:00] <EricNeon> I had
[04:00] <mako> ok.. did you talk to him about creating a wiki for the ubuntu-zh team?
[04:00] <EricNeon> I want got a maillist for ubuntu-zh
[04:00] <mako> EricNeon: ok.. you should also talk to matthias or to jeff waugh (jdub@canonical.com)
[04:01] <mako> jeff has been a little unresponsive lately so maybe you can ping me if it's not created right away and i can help poke him
[04:01] <EricNeon> smurf had help me create chinese team wiki
[04:01] <mako> ok.. so you ahve the chinese team wiki already?
[04:01] <EricNeon> but there is no Content
[04:02] <EricNeon> www.ubunut-zh.org
[04:02] <EricNeon> you can got it 
[04:02] <mako> yes yes
[04:02] <mako> so you should work on *that* wiki, not on the main one at www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/
[04:03] <EricNeon> I see now!
[04:03] <mako> you editing the main english wiki
[04:03] <mako> which was bad
[04:03] <mako> because it made the english wiki unsuable for most of today
[04:03] <mako> the problem has been fixed now, but you should realize this so that it doesn't happen again
[04:03] <mako> and only editing on the chinese wiki at www.ubuntu-zh.org
[04:04] <EricNeon> yeah
[04:04] <mako> cool! :)
[04:04] <mako> then there is no problem :)
[04:04] <mako> the important part is that we learn from our mistakes :)
[04:04] <mako> how is the chinese ubuntu community going?
[04:05] <mako> how many people are participating?
[04:05] <EricNeon> thank you for your admonish
[04:06] <EricNeon> chinese team have all of the best developers in chinese
[04:07] <EricNeon> we not only for debian,but also every distrabution,include BSD and solaris
[04:08] <EricNeon> we work at chinese input for X,and emacs in cjk,and for gnome /kde
[04:08] <mako> oh wow.. that's great
[04:09] <mako> we should definitely get to know how you are fixing things
[04:09] <mako> can you make a list of input method pacakges and other packages that you think are essential for a chiense environment
[04:09] <mako> fonts, input methods, etc
[04:09] <mako> ?
[04:09] <mako> we can get them installed by default when people select chinese language support
[04:09] <mako> you should make a list with the other members and then email me at mako@ubuntu.com
[04:09] <EricNeon> yes,this is just my help
[04:10] <EricNeon> s/HELP/HOPE
[04:10] <EricNeon> hoho~
[04:10] <EricNeon> I will
[04:11] <mako> that's great!
[04:11] <mako> thanks
[04:11] <EricNeon> I will sent a mail to you this day, and tell you about my work for 
[04:16] <mako> that is great!
[04:16] <mako> i am going to eat dinner now
[04:17] <EricNeon> good appetite
[04:34] <Skywind> hi , all
[04:34] <Skywind> hi EricNeon 
[04:34] <EricNeon> hi
[05:16] <sabmoc> hi guys
[05:18] <Liz> hiya
[05:18] <Liz> alex
[05:24] <Skywind> hi, sabmoc ~
[05:27] <EricNeon> i am going to lunch now
[05:30] <Skywind> enjoy lunch
[08:36] <sabmoc> hi froud 
[08:36] <froud> sabmoc: hi
[08:37] <sabmoc> froud, hows life? :)
[08:37] <froud> cooking with gas and chocolate since it is easter weekend
[08:37] <froud> and you
[08:38] <sabmoc> hahah
[08:38] <sabmoc> how do you cook ^with^ chocolate?
[08:39] <froud> nah the easter bunny already done that
[08:39] <sabmoc> Im good too, a little hyper for no apparent reason
[08:40] <froud> Hyper, hyper, hmmm cut down on the chocolate :-)
[08:42] <sabmoc> more like cut down on whipcream
[08:44] <froud> everyone has their fantasies
[08:44] <froud> by life is no fun without them, so I say go ahead
[10:32] <jsgotangco> hi
[10:38] <sabmoc> hi jsgotangco 
[10:38] <sabmoc> :)
[10:39] <sabmoc> hows it going man?
[10:39] <jsgotangco> im down with a flu
[10:39] <jsgotangco> hehe
[10:39] <jsgotangco> 2 days already
[10:40] <jsgotangco> i havent been doing anything except translate the wiki
[10:45] <jsgotangco> i noticed im much better writing in english than my native tongue (filipino)
[10:46] <EricNeon> hi
[10:47] <EricNeon> we are adding Content to wiki now
[10:47] <jsgotangco> EricNeon: hi you got to fix the wiki yet? :D
[10:47] <EricNeon> already no problem
[10:47] <jsgotangco> :D
[10:47] <sabmoc> jsgotangco, sorry to hear about that, get better soon!
[10:48] <sabmoc> hi EricNeon 
[10:48] <sabmoc> oh man, 2am already!
[10:48] <jsgotangco> sabmoc: what happened to the breezy badger
[10:48] <jsgotangco> hehe
[10:48] <sabmoc> jsgotangco, what what??
[10:48] <sabmoc> someone shot my badger?!?
[10:48] <sabmoc> NNNooooo
[10:49] <sabmoc> jsgotangco, let me guess, you are expecting regular badger updates now?
[10:49] <EricNeon> 
[10:50] <sabmoc> badger2.5_2ubuntu3.deb is now available for download
[10:51] <jsgotangco> youre kidding
[10:51] <sabmoc> yes i am
[10:51] <sabmoc> im tired
[10:51] <jsgotangco> then stop drinking red bull
[10:51] <sabmoc> lol
[10:51] <sabmoc> but redbut give you wings!
[10:51] <sabmoc> Im going to sleep, goodnight guy
[10:52] <jsgotangco> good night
[10:52] <jsgotangco> i gotta start cokking for dinner
[10:52] <jsgotangco> ill just come back later
[10:52] <EricNeon> this is ours team members
[10:52] <jsgotangco> bbl
[10:52] <jsgotangco> where?
[10:52] <EricNeon> http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/Wiki/ubuntu-zh
[10:53] <jsgotangco> oohhh you got your wiki running already
[10:53] <EricNeon> yes
[10:54] <jsgotangco> thats good well i'll see you later then
[11:16] <mdke> morning all
[12:09] <abelli> ciao a tutti
[12:10] <mdke> ciao
[12:10] <abelli> mdke: ciao
[12:15] <abelli> enrico: ciao
[12:15] <enrico> ciao
[06:20] <froud-work> maskie: how are the cows?
[07:24] <jeffsch> hi enrico
[07:24] <jeffsch> I just committed fix to bug 8188
[07:26] <enrico> jeffsch: great!
[07:27] <jeffsch> actually i lied a little bit :(
[07:27] <jeffsch> "window loads but title is stuck as Loading..."
[07:28] <jeffsch> I don't know how to fix that
[07:29] <jeffsch> yelp /usr/share/gnome/help/about-ubuntu/C/about-ubuntu.xml works fine on my system
[07:32] <enrico> It may have been fixed in my last upload, where things have been reshuffled a bit
[07:33] <froud-work> enrico: what's broken now
[07:35] <enrico> Nothing, afaik
[07:35] <enrico> Well, 
[07:35] <froud-work> all works fine on my systems
[07:36] <enrico> we miss the doc-base registration for the HTML versions (but jdub will have to tell me if that's needed at all)
[07:36] <enrico> we miss translations (pinged the translators today)
[07:36] <froud-work> ah yes
[07:36] <enrico> we miss the documents in front of yelp (jdub, again)
[07:36] <enrico> I don't know what else.  Maybe a trip through the bugzilla stuff would be helpful now
[07:37] <enrico> Oh, and we probably miss an upload with version set to "1.0" :)
[07:37] <froud-work> version set to 1.0
[07:37] <froud-work> or to hoary
[07:37] <enrico> The .deb is 0.4 so far (I increment by 0.1 at every upload)
[07:37] <enrico> right
[07:37] <enrico> But let's do it later on
[07:38] <enrico> when's the release day?
[07:38] <froud-work> who knows only you
[07:38] <enrico> Oh  uh-oh...
[07:39] <froud-work> ditto
[07:39] <froud-work> :-) we muddle through
[07:39] <enrico> let's see HoaryReleaseSchedule (the secret source of my wisdom :)
[07:39] <enrico> April, 6th
[07:39] <froud-work> is that still being kept too
[07:39] <enrico> the 28th is the release candidate
[07:40] <enrico> march, 28th
[07:40] <froud-work> 3 days time
[07:40] <enrico> ...for the others to do their job.  We're fine :)
[07:40] <enrico> We've been for quite a while, even
[07:41] <froud-work> yes
[07:41] <froud-work> jeffsch: nice patch dude
[07:41] <froud-work> jeffsch: and nice patches on update-manager too
[07:41] <froud-work> jeffsch: it was decided to keep the ubuntu stuff in this version even though it is in GNOME cvs
[07:43] <jeffsch> froud-work: thanks.
[07:44] <jeffsch> It will be easier to keep ubuntu stuff
[07:45] <froud-work> mvo says they need to make changes for it to run on other distros
[07:45] <froud-work> I have added credit to you as most excellent editor
[07:46] <jeffsch> yes. especially the Edit Repository dialog
[07:46] <jeffsch> it is very Ubuntu specific
[07:46] <froud-work> hehe
[07:46] <froud-work> well that is al teast one more thing moved upstream
[07:46] <froud-work> I would like to see more stuff starting here and movingupstream
[07:47] <froud-work> oh dude my fingers hurt
[07:48] <jeffsch> you will need to send me all the changes you make so I can keep my version up to date
[07:48] <froud-work> yes, I am waiting for GNOME CVS account
[07:48] <froud-work> so I can commit
[07:48] <froud-work> then you can do checkout from CVS
[07:48] <jeffsch> froud-work: problem: hurt fingers. Solution: remove fingers from vise
[07:49] <froud-work> he he no cant I must convert 600 pages of OOo Writer documents to Docbook by end of week end
[07:49] <froud-work> but then the fun can start
[07:50] <froud-work> It's current all about using Linux on Mandrake
[07:50] <froud-work> so I am gonna profile it for Kubuntu
[07:51] <enrico> wow
[07:51] <enrico> You're using the automated stuff for it, aren't you?
[07:51] <enrico> there's even a ooo2dbk package that entered Debian recently
[07:53] <froud-work> yes
[07:53] <froud-work> but as you may know the python script needs the docs formatted against the ooo2db stylesheet
[07:54] <froud-work> these docs are not
[07:54] <enrico> gosh
[07:54] <froud-work> so I get a part port
[07:54] <froud-work> and have to hack the rest
[07:54] <enrico> You're going to become a master in this kind of porting
[07:54] <enrico> You'll have great feedback for the oo2dbk people
[07:55] <froud-work> I am working on one file now that is 8706 lines long and it was larger before I started
[07:55] <froud-work> ooo2db puts in loads of stuff that is not required
[07:56] <froud-work> but its the last file
[07:56] <froud-work> the other 6 are done, thank goodness
[07:56] <enrico> wo-wow
[07:56] <enrico> then you take a break and have people gently massage your hands
[07:56] <froud-work> the whites of my eyes are now red and I promise I did not smoke anything green
[07:56] <froud-work> are you offering
[07:56] <enrico> Nice interpretation of the italian flag :-)
[07:57] <froud-work> :-)
[07:57] <froud-work> can always count on you for a laugh
[07:58] <enrico> One of my hidden strong intentions is to take a Clown course
[07:58] <enrico> I'll do it sooner or later
[07:58] <enrico> They make these courses about 200km from my house
[08:02] <enrico> After the Clown course I'll become untolerable, probably :(
[08:05] <jeffsch> i must go and re-caffeinate. bbl
[08:08] <froud-work> Burgundavia: hello dude
[08:08] <Burgundavia> salut
[08:08] <froud-work> I must be off, tired
[08:09] <froud-work> c ya later