| dholbach | i simply hate when autoconf-stuff doesnt work in the buildd anymore | 12:02 |
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| schweeb | hrmm | 12:07 |
| schweeb | think I found a bug in muine :) | 12:07 |
| === schweeb pokes tseng | ||
| schweeb | tseng: you wanna test something for me? | 12:07 |
| tseng | what | 12:08 |
| schweeb | tseng: make a path to some music with a '#' sign in it.... i.e. "Chevelle - Point #1"... and see if the files under it play in muine | 12:08 |
| tseng | um | 12:08 |
| tseng | /home/brandon/rips/mp3/Fugazi/Repeater + 3 Songs/03. Fugazi - Brendan #1.mp3 | 12:09 |
| tseng | hows that | 12:09 |
| schweeb | the path | 12:09 |
| tseng | uh | 12:09 |
| schweeb | the directory I think does it | 12:09 |
| schweeb | from what I can tell | 12:09 |
| schweeb | cause I can play 'Chevelle - Open.ogg" when it's under /home/files/music but not under /home/files/music/Chevelle - Point #1 | 12:10 |
| tseng | so what happens for you | 12:10 |
| schweeb | and it spews some glib assertions on the console | 12:10 |
| tseng | and stops at 0:00 | 12:10 |
| tseng | yeah | 12:11 |
| schweeb | yea, it just doesn't play... the play button goes to 'play' but does nothing | 12:11 |
| tseng | right | 12:11 |
| schweeb | so you see the same behavior? | 12:11 |
| tseng | yes | 12:11 |
| schweeb | I'll report upstream | 12:11 |
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| schweeb | ah, good, already reported and fixed | 12:18 |
| schweeb | tseng: and if you're not horribly busy, wanna review those gsf-sharp packages I have... dholbach suggested I ask you... he's already reviewed them, as has jdub | 12:21 |
| tseng | where to | 12:21 |
| schweeb | http://schweeb.org/~chris/ubuntu | 12:21 |
| schweeb | and write any comments in http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUNewPackages | 12:22 |
| tseng | yeah dyde | 12:22 |
| tseng | dude. | 12:22 |
| tseng | it looks good | 12:22 |
| tseng | im not going to build it atm, since they did | 12:22 |
| tseng | i read the diff.gz | 12:22 |
| dholbach | (i didnt build it) | 12:23 |
| schweeb | jdub did I'm pretty sure, dholbach didn't | 12:23 |
| === tseng trusts jdub | ||
| schweeb | :) | 12:24 |
| tseng | but the debian/ looks fine | 12:25 |
| schweeb | dholbach: should I get anyone else to review, or that good enough then? | 12:25 |
| ogra | schweeb, did you fix the unstable/hoary thing ? | 12:25 |
| schweeb | yep | 12:25 |
| ogra | so i would say its ready to go in | 12:26 |
| schweeb | excellent :) | 12:26 |
| ogra | 3 reviews are enough | 12:26 |
| koke | hey, discover pbuilds here | 12:28 |
| ogra | uuuh discover...ugly | 12:30 |
| trulux | tseng: better to discuss it here, read http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-hardened/2005-March/000003.html | 12:35 |
| tseng | hm | 12:36 |
| dholbach | i thought you started off #ubuntu-hardened? | 12:36 |
| trulux | dholbach: yeah | 12:37 |
| ogra | so why do you need to discuss that here ? | 12:37 |
| trulux | ogra: maybe it's of the interest of other people | 12:38 |
| ogra | then i would join -hardened | 12:38 |
| === trulux takes his marbles and continues on #ubuntu-hardened | ||
| dholbach | it's not exactly motu related, is it? not wanting to chuck you guys out | 12:38 |
| trulux | dholbach: nah, it's ok, will continue on -hardened | 12:39 |
| dholbach | right | 12:39 |
| trulux | free beers there, anyone interested, join ;D | 12:39 |
| ogra | heh | 12:39 |
| === dholbach has tea and cookies here | ||
| ogra | trulux, sorry, nothing personal... | 12:39 |
| === dholbach isnt that hard. ;-) | ||
| === ogra neither | ||
| === dholbach throws 5 in the "stupid wordplay cash box" | ||
| ogra | so no more uploads today it seems... | 12:42 |
| schweeb | buildds get turned off or what? | 12:42 |
| ogra | <elmo> right upload.u.c's going away! | 12:42 |
| ogra | dunno for how long | 12:43 |
| schweeb | ahh | 12:43 |
| schweeb | hrm | 12:43 |
| schweeb | what's you guys' opinion on this... Xen is in the Priority list... albeit about halfway down... but, it's a really really old version... I've been working on making packages of 2.0.5 myself... should I fix the old ones, or should I try getting mine good enough to upload? | 12:45 |
| ajmitch | xen 2.0 packages are stuck in debian NEW queue | 12:45 |
| schweeb | yea | 12:45 |
| schweeb | doogie's packages are hackish | 12:45 |
| schweeb | from what I saw | 12:46 |
| schweeb | although, xen's python stuff may have to be used w/ python2.3... I don't know firsthand, but fabbione only got them working w/ 2.3 | 12:47 |
| ogra | looks like it takes a bit for uploads.ubuntu.com to come up again (see -devel) | 12:47 |
| schweeb | haha | 12:48 |
| schweeb | nice | 12:48 |
| schweeb | .5TB fsck | 12:48 |
| ajmitch | well, I guess it'll come back up in a few hours then ;) | 12:55 |
| ogra | lets see waht elmo decides... | 12:57 |
| schweeb | ogra: glad we share taste in filesystems... I won't touch reiser either | 12:59 |
| ogra | :) | 01:00 |
| schweeb | although I've had a couple of XFS incdents as of late... related to the 2.6.8 kernels | 01:01 |
| schweeb | but playing out the journals fixed it | 01:01 |
| ogra | yeah, thats the great thing with xfs, you'll be always able to fix it | 01:07 |
| dholbach | good night... i'm off | 01:08 |
| schweeb | night | 01:08 |
| ogra | night dholbach | 01:08 |
| schweeb | this may just be the "gentoo effect" but it seems to me that XFS is faster too | 01:08 |
| koke | dholbach: night | 01:09 |
| schweeb | (than ext2/3) | 01:09 |
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| ogra | bye schweeb | 01:14 |
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| lamont | well, shut it up anyway | 02:15 |
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| schweeb | hehe | 02:19 |
| === schweeb browses the priority list for something else to fix | ||
| goedson | ogra: ping. | 02:23 |
| crimsun | ok, gkrellm builds on "all 4" arches now, so removing from UniverseDoesNotBuild | 02:44 |
| schweeb | cool | 02:45 |
| schweeb | <3 gkrellm | 02:45 |
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| dholbach | gooood morning | 08:24 |
| crimsun | morning dholbach | 08:25 |
| dholbach | hey daniel | 08:26 |
| dholbach | how are you? | 08:26 |
| crimsun | not too bad, wrapping up here at work, about to head home | 08:26 |
| dholbach | yes... that sounds good :-) | 08:27 |
| dholbach | i worked the popcon data into our lists and saw that xfce is _quite_ popular | 08:28 |
| dholbach | i must underestimated that :-) | 08:28 |
| dholbach | so good to have you and jani working on it | 08:28 |
| crimsun | I should ping elmo again regarding that, thanks for reminding me :) | 08:29 |
| dholbach | yeah and write a mail to him about it too | 08:30 |
| dholbach | that's what he told me wrt morgu-ification | 08:30 |
| crimsun | ok. james@nocrew.org ? | 08:31 |
| dholbach | i wrote to james.troup@canonical.com - i guess they all end up at the same place :-) | 08:32 |
| crimsun | sure thing | 08:32 |
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| dholbach | hrm... i'm trying to find out, how to find all of those lines from file1 that are simply NOT in file2 ( grep -v -f file1 file2 didn't work) and i can't stop diff from worrying about line changes | 09:06 |
| dholbach | ok... python's a.__sub__(b) worked | 09:16 |
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| siretart | good morning | 10:43 |
| dholbach | hey siretart! | 10:45 |
| siretart | dholbach: I didn't ask elmo for whitelisting my email address. Shouldn't I first get a ubuntu "member" sending a signed the code of conduct to Mako? | 10:45 |
| dholbach | do both | 10:45 |
| siretart | I'm note quite sure about the procedures... | 10:46 |
| siretart | ok I'll do | 10:46 |
| dholbach | whitelisting is no problem and just requires adding your mailadress | 10:46 |
| siretart | for what exactly I'm whitelisted then? | 10:46 |
| dholbach | you'll receive the buildds receipt mails then | 10:46 |
| dholbach | and your name will appear on hoary-changes@ | 10:46 |
| siretart | ah, ok. I'll do | 10:47 |
| dholbach | good | 10:47 |
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| siretart | have fun, cu! :) | 10:49 |
| dholbach | re | 11:20 |
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| dholbach | i'll have a look at bzflag | 11:43 |
| tseng | dholbach: woooo | 11:51 |
| tseng | i got the mail from Manoj | 11:51 |
| tseng | about keysigning | 11:51 |
| dholbach | YES | 11:51 |
| dholbach | ROCK | 11:51 |
| dholbach | FINALLY | 11:51 |
| tseng | yeah | 11:51 |
| dholbach | PAAAAAARTYYYYYYYYYYy | 11:52 |
| tseng | its been weeks :( | 11:52 |
| dholbach | but you'll make it | 11:52 |
| dholbach | that's the only thing that counts :-) | 11:52 |
| tseng | yeah. | 11:52 |
| lamont | dholbach: btw, if you run across any test failures where things bitch that /dev/null: permission denied, please let me know - I'm certain there are some. | 11:56 |
| lamont | preferred format is in the form: sourcepackage_version (with epoc) | 11:56 |
| dholbach | ok | 11:56 |
| lamont | e.g.: kdeaddons_4:3.4.0-0ubuntu1 | 11:56 |
| dholbach | i'm all cracked up concerning the lists | 11:57 |
| dholbach | but will do | 11:57 |
| lamont | dholbach: actually, I expect I'll just run across all the log files looking for them once I'm awake again | 11:57 |
| dholbach | take a rest | 11:57 |
| dholbach | :-) | 11:57 |
| dholbach | you deserve it | 11:57 |
| dholbach | how can anyone make a native package of a 5mb tarball?! | 12:05 |
| tseng | s/5mb tarball//g | 12:05 |
| Treenaks | dholbach: why make a native package anyway? | 12:05 |
| Treenaks | dholbach: (99% of the time, that is) | 12:05 |
| dholbach | yeah | 12:06 |
| dholbach | i'm glad you're on my side | 12:06 |
| dholbach | i sometimes even cry the whole night in bed because of that | 12:06 |
| Treenaks | dholbach: just hit the guy who did it in the head with some heavy, blunt object | 12:07 |
| dholbach | i talked to my control-your-agressions group about that too, they said it was the wrong way to deal with it | 12:08 |
| tseng | you could take it out on HG instead | 12:09 |
| Treenaks | dholbach: it does feel good :) | 12:09 |
| === tseng jokes. | ||
| Treenaks | tseng: :P | 12:09 |
| Treenaks | tseng: maybe he made the package | 12:09 |
| tseng | he doesnt do packaging, he just pushes other peoples work as his own | 12:09 |
| Treenaks | oh yeah | 12:10 |
| tseng | and then tries to hit me with blackmail and FUD | 12:10 |
| === tseng sigh. | ||
| dholbach | bzflag fixed | 12:18 |
| Amaranth | tseng: what other people's work? | 12:22 |
| tseng | Amaranth: yours, some other guy csj iirc | 12:23 |
| tseng | he kept reffering to cjs's package as "mine" | 12:23 |
| Amaranth | heh | 12:24 |
| tseng | because csj, who was here for 10 minutes total and never spoke, was apperantly told by me I would ban him | 12:24 |
| Amaranth | he kept trying to make the package for my stuff | 12:24 |
| tseng | which i definately said to no one but HG | 12:24 |
| tseng | the next time I have to say something it will be a final warning | 12:24 |
| tseng | ive been extremely patient | 12:25 |
| Amaranth | * HostingGeek has quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) | 12:25 |
| Amaranth | Remenic \o/ | 12:25 |
| Amaranth | hehe | 12:25 |
| Amaranth | no one likes him | 12:25 |
| tseng | it seems that way, heh. | 12:25 |
| tseng | moving on | 12:25 |
| ogra | Amaranth, he's our channel pet ;) (i never give up hope sadly) | 12:25 |
| Treenaks | ogra: /j #ubuntu-ogra | 12:26 |
| Treenaks | :P | 12:26 |
| ogra | hehe | 12:26 |
| tseng | i need to be getting ready for work | 12:27 |
| tseng | cya tonight, hopefully with a workable gpg key | 12:27 |
| ogra | yaeh | 12:28 |
| tseng | manoj++ | 12:28 |
| ogra | yippie | 12:28 |
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| ogra | hey goedson | 01:08 |
| dholbach | bin grad mit meinen 2 cousinen am english-konversieren | 01:14 |
| dholbach | ich bin beeindruckt | 01:14 |
| dholbach | oops | 01:14 |
| goedson | Hi ogra. | 01:18 |
| goedson | I've uploaded a new gnomebaker package implementing your requests | 01:19 |
| ogra | goedson, changes done ? | 01:19 |
| goedson | Yep. | 01:19 |
| ogra | yeah, i'll look at it soon and do the upload ;) | 01:19 |
| dholbach | ROCK | 01:20 |
| Amaranth | dholbach: ever figure out what was wrong with gsf-sharp? | 01:32 |
| dholbach | hrm? | 01:35 |
| ogra | Amaranth, there is anything wrong ? | 01:35 |
| Amaranth | err, i think that's you | 01:35 |
| dholbach | i use amd64, so i can't really tell | 01:35 |
| Amaranth | yeah, that's what i meant | 01:36 |
| dholbach | what do you mean? | 01:37 |
| Amaranth | why doesn't it build? :) | 01:38 |
| dholbach | because on amd64 mono doesnt build | 01:38 |
| dholbach | at least 1.0.x doesnt | 01:38 |
| Amaranth | ah | 01:38 |
| Treenaks | people STILL write CPU-dependent C code? | 01:39 |
| Treenaks | *headdesks* | 01:39 |
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| ogra | goedson, ok, i'm ready to upload it, one thing, could you make a soure.changes file for it .... (debuild -S) | 02:41 |
| ogra | there is only a i386.chages.... | 02:41 |
| ogra | +n | 02:41 |
| goedson | ogra: Doing it right now. | 02:53 |
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| tritium | Good morning, ajmitch, ogra, trulux. | 02:56 |
| ogra | goedson, great...then we'll have it in today ;) | 02:58 |
| ogra | hi tritium | 02:58 |
| tritium | How are things going? | 02:59 |
| ogra | tritium, just uploaded gsf-sharp..... | 03:02 |
| ogra | tritium, lets poke haggai or amu to give some judgement about kreciepes | 03:03 |
| tritium | I see... | 03:03 |
| tritium | ogra, okay. amu has already reviewed it for me. | 03:03 |
| HiddenWolf | Did you guys see that OSnews posting about X11 catching up to tiger/longhorn? | 03:04 |
| ogra | tritium, he didnt comment on the MOTUNewPackages page | 03:04 |
| tritium | ogra, true... | 03:04 |
| ogra | schweeb, please move gsf-sharp from MOTUNewPackages to UniverseNewPackages, its uploaded | 03:06 |
| ogra | HiddenWolf, to catch up ? we're far ahead http://www.gnome.org/~seth/ | 03:07 |
| tritium | HiddenWolf, are you referring to that luminosity demo? | 03:09 |
| tritium | with the wobbly windows? | 03:10 |
| goedson | ogra: uploaded. | 03:10 |
| ogra | yeah | 03:10 |
| HiddenWolf | tritium: yup | 03:11 |
| ogra | goedson, uploaded, so now they have to pass elmos eagle eyes :) please do the same i told schweeb above... | 03:24 |
| goedson | ogra: I believe above is before I connected :) | 03:27 |
| goedson | ogra: Can you repeate? | 03:27 |
| ogra | goedson, please move gnomebaker from MOTUNewPackages to UniverseNewPackages, its uploaded | 03:27 |
| trulux | hey tritium !!! | 03:29 |
| tritium | Hey there trulux :) | 03:29 |
| trulux | tritium: how's it going? | 03:29 |
| tritium | I'm great, thanks. How are you? | 03:29 |
| trulux | tritium: fine, finished many work, just fixing some things in the new libssp packages | 03:31 |
| tritium | very good | 03:31 |
| goedson | ogra: OK. Will do it now. | 03:31 |
| ogra | goedson, good :) | 03:32 |
| goedson | ogra: So now gnomebaker is waiting for elmo in two NEW queues. Universe and Debian :) | 03:35 |
| ogra | heh | 03:36 |
| ogra | goedson, ubuntu is usually faster | 03:36 |
| goedson | ogra: I hope so. | 03:36 |
| goedson | ogra: Should I link to the source package in my repository, until it is approved into universe? | 03:39 |
| ogra | yop | 03:39 |
| ogra | goedson, if we can sync it from debian, you can remove it completely from the wiki | 03:40 |
| goedson | ogra, Will it be the case if it is in NEW? Or only when approved for Debian? | 03:42 |
| ogra | if its in the debian repo | 03:43 |
| ogra | our NEW policy only applies to packages that are in neither of them.... | 03:43 |
| ogra | so if its in debian and we can sync it, its a regular package for us | 03:44 |
| goedson | OK. | 03:52 |
| goedson | Should I remove the reviews from the MOTUNewPackages? | 03:53 |
| === goedson is going to lunch, now. | ||
| ogra | goedson, nope, leave them there if elmo has questions....if the package is in the archive you can remove them too | 03:57 |
| goedson | OK. | 04:00 |
| goedson | Done. | 04:03 |
| ogra | great thanks :) | 04:03 |
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| dholbach | re | 04:46 |
| dholbach | hi lamont | 04:47 |
| dholbach | lamont: you know what went wrong here (http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/p/pingus/0.6.0-8/) and here (http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/l/lbreakout2/2.5.1-1/)? | 04:48 |
| === lamont looks | ||
| dholbach | lamont: they both have funny "pkgstriptranslations: inconsistent /CurrentlyBuilding file, Package: value is YYY (should be XXX)"-lines | 04:48 |
| lamont | which arch? | 04:49 |
| dholbach | i386 | 04:49 |
| lamont | dholbach: there were two buildd's running on that machine... | 04:50 |
| dholbach | ah and then pkgstriptranslations didnt happen in the chroot? | 04:51 |
| lamont | dholbach: and then pkgstriptranslations killed the build in anger | 04:52 |
| tritium | hi dholbach | 04:52 |
| === lamont gives both back just to be sure | ||
| dholbach | then someone should tell pkgstriptranslations to be nice and easy and maybe even sign the CoC | 04:52 |
| dholbach | hey tritium | 04:52 |
| ogra | dholbach, it hasnt yet ? | 04:53 |
| dholbach | well... if it is killing like that | 04:54 |
| dholbach | and not controlling anger... that makes me really sad | 04:54 |
| ogra | dholbach, talk to the maintainer ;) | 04:54 |
| schweeb | ogra: cool :) | 04:56 |
| ogra | schweeb, please leave the review stuff up until it passed elmo, if he has questions | 04:56 |
| schweeb | alright | 04:57 |
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| dholbach | thanks lamont | 04:59 |
| lamont | dholbach: if you see any more, and they aren't 'needs-build' in wanna-build, holler. ditto for any '/dev/null: permission denied' messages | 05:01 |
| dholbach | i will | 05:01 |
| dholbach | our lists are way to full anyway ;:-) | 05:01 |
| lamont | think of it as a challenge... | 05:01 |
| dholbach | i already do so | 05:01 |
| dholbach | lamont: but thanks for working with us, i'm glad you're around | 05:02 |
| schweeb | ogra: done | 05:03 |
| ogra | great | 05:03 |
| ogra | thanks :) | 05:03 |
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| === schweeb considers attempting to package mono 1.0.6 so we can get beagle 0.0.8 | ||
| ogra | schweeb, please coordinate with tseng, he's the MOTUMono teamlead | 05:10 |
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| schweeb | ogra: yea, sure will | 05:25 |
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| ogra | good | 05:25 |
| ogra | dholbach, oh, short dogwalk today | 05:26 |
| schweeb | I think he's been attempting to package 1.1.4 (as have I) but I run into problems as soon as I compile it as a package rather than just manually | 05:26 |
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| ogra | crimsun, i gave up on jack__, he simply doesnt listen... | 06:41 |
| tritium | hi crimsun | 06:49 |
| crimsun | hi tritium! | 06:51 |
| crimsun | &ogra :) | 06:51 |
| ogra | :) | 06:52 |
| tritium | :0 | 06:52 |
| tritium | :) | 06:52 |
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| jani | hello all | 07:08 |
| crimsun | alo | 07:08 |
| dholbach | hey jani | 07:09 |
| jani | looks like elmo did not sync xfce4.2 yet right? | 07:09 |
| jani | those build errors are for 4.0 | 07:09 |
| crimsun | jani: not yet | 07:09 |
| jani | did he ack the request though? | 07:10 |
| crimsun | hasn't gotten back | 07:10 |
| crimsun | just emailed, actually | 07:10 |
| crimsun | I batched the request with one for alsa-source/universe | 07:10 |
| jani | ok I thought it was just the IRC ping :) | 07:10 |
| crimsun | yeah, I pinged him earlier, but email was suggested | 07:11 |
| mdz | alsa-source is built by a package in main (alsa-driver), and a modified one at that | 07:11 |
| crimsun | mdz: ah that's right! | 07:11 |
| crimsun | mdz: unfortunately I guess I that means there's no chance of pulling in Thomas's 1.0.8+1.0.9rc2-1 packages | 07:11 |
| mdz | crimsun: I don't think that would be wise at this juncture, no | 07:12 |
| crimsun | mdz: right-o. | 07:12 |
| mdz | he has merged/obsoleted several of our patches, though, so we should be able to clean things up after Hoary | 07:13 |
| crimsun | great | 07:13 |
| jani | mdz, for GPG id whitelisting for uni upload is elmo the person? | 07:14 |
| dholbach | jani: yes | 07:16 |
| jani | thanks,I'll mail him then I never seem to catch him here | 07:16 |
| dholbach | jani: whitelisting (receipt mails) and keyring (uploading) are two different things | 07:16 |
| dholbach | that's soooo great! | 07:17 |
| jani | oh, well keyring then | 07:17 |
| dholbach | wiki/Uploads | 07:17 |
| tritium | I'm getting occasional Input/output errors when I ls, rm, mv, cat various files. | 07:22 |
| tritium | wonder if my journal is screwy, or if my drive is going bad | 07:23 |
| dholbach | tritium: anything in dmesg? | 07:23 |
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| tritium | dholbach, nothing that would indicate a problem, no | 07:24 |
| crimsun | tritium: journal errors are reported as journal errors and almost always result in an immediate remounting of the partition as read-only | 07:24 |
| tritium | crimsun, okay, thanks. Hmm... | 07:24 |
| crimsun | tritium: hardware errors are more likely :/ | 07:24 |
| tritium | I think you're right. I just replaced the hard drive in this laptop in November. | 07:24 |
| tritium | I wonder if the controller is bad. | 07:24 |
| crimsun | I envy you folks with laptops :p | 07:25 |
| tritium | crimsun, can't you use any of your university discretionary funds to get you one? ;) | 07:25 |
| dholbach | crimsun: i don't own one myself, hope that comforts you a bit :-) | 07:26 |
| jani | elmos email address? | 07:26 |
| jani | nocrew or canonical | 07:26 |
| dholbach | jani: wiki/Uploads | 07:26 |
| tritium | maybe I'll replace this soon anyway. ogra - you have an amd64 laptop, am I right? | 07:26 |
| jani | not his address but keyring at ubuntu.is he reading that? | 07:27 |
| dholbach | jani: he read it in my case | 07:27 |
| crimsun | jani: he reads that | 07:27 |
| crimsun | dholbach: :) | 07:27 |
| jani | ok thanks | 07:27 |
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| tritium | Thanks for the trouble-shooting advice dholbach and crimsun. I think I'm going to go backup some important files :) | 07:31 |
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| dholbach | alright... have a nice day/evening/morning pals... i'm off - must run to get the train | 07:32 |
| crimsun | cya dholbach | 07:32 |
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| herve | re | 07:37 |
| herve | erm | 07:37 |
| herve | hi | 07:37 |
| crimsun | hi | 07:38 |
| ogra | whoops, just fell asleep for an hour | 07:48 |
| crimsun | hehe | 07:48 |
| crimsun | power nap! | 07:48 |
| herve | it can't be bad :-) | 07:49 |
| ogra | yeah, preparing for the hacking night :) | 07:49 |
| crimsun | :) | 07:49 |
| ogra | crimsun, ubuntulog is fabbionnes logbot ;) | 07:56 |
| ogra | *grin* | 07:56 |
| crimsun | hehe, too fast with the tab-completion :) | 07:56 |
| ogra | heh | 07:57 |
| ogra | but nice that you apologized | 07:57 |
| mdz | jani: whitelisting is based on email address, but yes, elmo | 08:02 |
| herve | jani, I still wonder how you made the notary authenticate your GPG key | 08:04 |
| jani | herve, she just authenticated a declaration I gave | 08:04 |
| jani | anything in that decl is my responsability | 08:04 |
| herve | that's why I thought | 08:05 |
| herve | I could write about anything | 08:05 |
| ogra | herve, you fingerprint would be a good idea i guess ;) | 08:05 |
| herve | I should somehow type my password in front of her for a proof | 08:05 |
| herve | ogra, the real one? ;-) | 08:06 |
| ogra | :-P | 08:06 |
| === herve will add a photograph to his key, that's a start | ||
| === ogra -> dinner | ||
| crimsun | l8r ogra | 08:09 |
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| ogra | wohooo | 10:54 |
| trulux|working | voodooo | 10:54 |
| === ogra just found out that he leads his netblock | ||
| ogra | http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=HEUROPE-NET,217.115.138.0,217.115.143.255 | 10:54 |
| trulux|working | what a fuck, cracklib is an asspain while building new PAM (upgraded to 0.78) | 10:54 |
| ajmitch | heh | 10:58 |
| herve | yeah! I lead mine too! | 11:00 |
| herve | er... I'm alon on it :-p | 11:00 |
| herve | (alone) | 11:00 |
| ogra | heh | 11:01 |
| trulux|working | who maintains cracklib? I have the knife ready for fun | 11:02 |
| === trulux|working grins like a psycho | ||
| ogra | herve, i actually never thought i would pass the server of astalavista.com, its right beside mine | 11:02 |
| trulux|working | ajmitch: there? | 11:02 |
| ajmitch | well I was here 5 minutes ago.. | 11:06 |
| herve | maybe it was an answering machine :-) | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | perhaps ;) | 11:06 |
| trulux|working | ajmitch: I'm starting to get annoyed with the cracklib shit, the dicts are installed in the right place, cracklib is properly configured, but I won't be able to finnish Linux-PAM 0.78 for Breezy until someone tells me what's the hell that makes it saying "checking path to cracklib dictionary... configure: error: none found" | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | fun :) | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | got something for me to look at then? | 11:08 |
| trulux|working | ajmitch: I have a task for you if you want it | 11:10 |
| trulux|working | make the coreutils package | 11:10 |
| ogra | hmm, probably your system knows that breezy is vaporware until next month... | 11:10 |
| ajmitch | is there something wrong with the current coreutils? :) | 11:10 |
| trulux|working | ogra: my system is frustrated, annoyed, overloaded, fscked up and not capable of understanding sarcasm.Sory. | 11:11 |
| tseng | ogra: he is trying to get some selinux stuff going early | 11:11 |
| tseng | ogra: (very impatient) | 11:11 |
| trulux|working | ajmitch: maybe should we add SELinux? | 11:11 |
| ogra | tseng, i see that | 11:11 |
| ajmitch | trulux|working: are there not already patched packages? | 11:11 |
| trulux|working | ajmitch: yes, without a fixed PAM they won't build ;) | 11:11 |
| trulux|working | ajmitch: read current https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SELinux | 11:12 |
| trulux|working | tseng: holidays put me on steroids, no holidays, no extra solar power, no Ubuntu work | 11:12 |
| ajmitch | probably because I've got 0.77-0.se5 installed still :) | 11:12 |
| trulux|working | 2 days left to the end of holidays | 11:12 |
| trulux|working | ajmitch: right, look at http://pearls.tuxedo-es.org/selinux/ubuntu/cron/ | 11:13 |
| trulux|working | erm | 11:13 |
| trulux|working | http://pearls.tuxedo-es.org/selinux/ubuntu/pam/ | 11:13 |
| trulux|working | that's just the upstream diff | 11:13 |
| ajmitch | hah | 11:13 |
| ajmitch | 1MB diff | 11:13 |
| trulux|working | I have modified some debian-related stuff to make it at least building | 11:13 |
| ajmitch | good luck reviewing that ;) | 11:13 |
| trulux|working | ajmitch: I did, it's done | 11:13 |
| trulux|working | that's because 15 minutes of wasted time fsck me up and make me feeling disappointed | 11:14 |
| ajmitch | heh | 11:14 |
| trulux|working | ajmitch: could you get coreutils sources? | 11:16 |
| trulux|working | then... | 11:16 |
| ajmitch | I've got the source | 11:16 |
| trulux|working | get http://people.debian.org/~adric/selinux/coreutils/coreutils-5.2.1-selinux.tar.gz | 11:16 |
| ajmitch | I'm just trying to access fedora cvs | 11:16 |
| trulux|working | don't do that | 11:16 |
| ajmitch | I'm grabbing the ubuntu source | 11:16 |
| trulux|working | use that tarball | 11:16 |
| trulux|working | use the tarball I sent to you, please | 11:16 |
| ajmitch | that depends on what changes there are | 11:16 |
| trulux|working | decompress it on debian/patches/ | 11:16 |
| trulux|working | red hat's ones but more fixed for compliance with other debian patches | 11:17 |
| trulux|working | I will work on the targeted policy | 11:18 |
| trulux|working | don't disturb ;D | 11:19 |
| ogra | trulux|working, could you do that i -hardened ? | 11:20 |
| ogra | in eevn | 11:20 |
| trulux|working | ogra: sure | 11:20 |
| ogra | who execpt dholbach worked on the priority list the last three days ? i know he is very dissapointed doing all the work alone recently ? and we are getting short of time... | 11:22 |
| === ajmitch hasn't really had any spare time in the last week | ||
| herve | ogra, no one I'm afraid | 11:24 |
| ogra | we have excatly 11 days to get this done https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePriorityList | 11:24 |
| ogra | looks like a lot.... | 11:24 |
| herve | hmm... | 11:25 |
| herve | I should clean packages I have done... | 11:25 |
| ogra | that would be good | 11:25 |
| herve | this | 11:28 |
| herve | just to be sure... | 11:28 |
| ajmitch | there are packages on that list such as kudzu that we just won't use | 11:28 |
| herve | it's ok for removing done packages from the sorted list? | 11:29 |
| ogra | but they are in universe | 11:29 |
| ajmitch | and what is wrong with packages like kismet? | 11:29 |
| ogra | ajmitch, look at the build logs | 11:29 |
| herve | kudzu is suggested for the morgue, as I rememer | 11:29 |
| === ajmitch needs to take a look - he uses that one on hoary | ||
| ogra | herve, great... | 11:29 |
| ajmitch | ogra: sure, it doesn't build on amd64 only | 11:30 |
| schweeb | ajmitch: kismet should be fine | 11:31 |
| schweeb | just needs another kick | 11:31 |
| === schweeb pokes lamont-away | ||
| ajmitch | schweeb: again? :) | 11:31 |
| schweeb | yea :-/ | 11:31 |
| schweeb | well | 11:31 |
| ajmitch | I see.. | 11:31 |
| ajmitch | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 11:31 |
| ajmitch | ethereal-dev: Depends: omniidl (> 1:3.0.4.1-10) but it is not installable or | 11:31 |
| ajmitch | omniidl4 (>= 4.0.1-2) but it is not going to be installed | 11:31 |
| ajmitch | Depends: snacc but it is not installable | 11:31 |
| ajmitch | E: Broken packages | 11:31 |
| schweeb | the buildd's were goofy yesterday | 11:31 |
| ajmitch | in the last build attempt | 11:32 |
| schweeb | which arch? | 11:32 |
| ajmitch | as I said, amd64 | 11:32 |
| schweeb | I usually only look at i386, as that's what I can build for :) | 11:32 |
| schweeb | ah | 11:32 |
| ajmitch | as amd64 is the only reason it's in the list :) | 11:32 |
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| schweeb | it wasn't building on x86 as of yesterday... | 11:33 |
| crimsun | i386 is usually not problematic; it's the other arches that we really have to fix up before March 30th | 11:33 |
| === schweeb checks the build logs | ||
| crimsun | (I recently got two friends to give me access to pbuilders on their amd64s so I could test) | 11:33 |
| schweeb | ajmitch: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/k/kismet/2004.04.R1-5/ | 11:34 |
| schweeb | there's the latest build logs for it | 11:34 |
| ogra | hmm, snacc segfaults on build... | 11:34 |
| schweeb | so, it wasn't building on i386 | 11:34 |
| ajmitch | uh.. | 11:35 |
| ajmitch | fun, so I was looking at the wrong build logs | 11:35 |
| schweeb | yea | 11:35 |
| schweeb | there's 2 sets | 11:35 |
| schweeb | I don't know how lamont's sorting them exactly :-/ | 11:36 |
| ajmitch | and it's the same culprit again, ethereal-dev | 11:36 |
| schweeb | which I fixed | 11:36 |
| ajmitch | Setting up ethereal-dev (0.10.4-3ubuntu1) ... | 11:36 |
| ajmitch | /var/lib/dpkg/info/ethereal-dev.postinst: line 7: /usr/bin/python2.3: No such file or directory | 11:36 |
| ajmitch | dpkg: error processing ethereal-dev (--configure): | 11:36 |
| ajmitch | crazy stuff | 11:36 |
| schweeb | I fixed that | 11:36 |
| schweeb | it would have worked, except the buildd's hadn't uploaded my fixes yet | 11:36 |
| schweeb | still missing snacc on amd64 though | 11:37 |
| ogra | hmm, seems it fails since quite some time, even in debian http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa-packages/2004/10/msg00120.html | 11:37 |
| schweeb | so, maybe no kismet for amd64? | 11:38 |
| ogra | looks like | 11:38 |
| herve | I don't want to blame anyone | 11:39 |
| herve | but I saw a package twice in the lsit :-) | 11:40 |
| herve | (poor daniel...) | 11:40 |
| trulux|working | pam 0.78 finished | 11:40 |
| trulux|working | (applause) :P | 11:40 |
| herve | clap clap! | 11:41 |
| herve | I pushed a few packages in the morgue proposal | 11:41 |
| ajmitch | depends if it works & has no regressions ;) | 11:41 |
| trulux|working | ajmitch: feel free to test, dear | 11:43 |
| trulux|working | ;P | 11:43 |
| ogra | herve, great, every package that is off the list will make dholbach happier | 11:43 |
| herve | I wonder how many need just a trivial fix | 11:44 |
| herve | ogra, you find it! | 11:44 |
| herve | that's the "let's make dholbach happy" transition! | 11:44 |
| ogra | yaeh | 11:45 |
| ogra | crimsun, whats the status of xfce4 ? | 11:46 |
| herve | doko, ping | 11:50 |
| crimsun | ogra: awaiting word from James | 11:51 |
| crimsun | ogra: I emailed him earlier regarding syncing from os-works | 11:51 |
| ogra | ah, great :) | 11:51 |
| ogra | ok, i added a can't build section on the page.... | 11:52 |
| ogra | crimsun, sorry, i'm to blind, just saw your comment on the list page, ignore me | 11:53 |
| crimsun | ogra: np | 11:53 |
| herve | hmm... | 11:55 |
| herve | strange slune is there | 11:55 |
| herve | another buildd bug it seems | 11:55 |
| ogra | what is slune ? seems i386 only... | 11:57 |
| herve | a 3D game in python | 11:58 |
| ogra | hmm, so why is it i386 only... | 11:58 |
| herve | I thought it could be broken by soya, that FTBFS | 11:58 |
| herve | but soya is even missing from the priority lsit | 11:58 |
| herve | though it's in the python transition | 11:58 |
| ogra | hmm, seems slune has only i386 in the arch list, weird...older versions are arch all | 11:59 |
| herve | apt-cache says Arch: all | 12:00 |
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