[12:02] i simply hate when autoconf-stuff doesnt work in the buildd anymore [12:07] hrmm [12:07] think I found a bug in muine :) === schweeb pokes tseng [12:07] tseng: you wanna test something for me? [12:08] what [12:08] tseng: make a path to some music with a '#' sign in it.... i.e. "Chevelle - Point #1"... and see if the files under it play in muine [12:08] um [12:09] /home/brandon/rips/mp3/Fugazi/Repeater + 3 Songs/03. Fugazi - Brendan #1.mp3 [12:09] hows that [12:09] the path [12:09] uh [12:09] the directory I think does it [12:09] from what I can tell [12:10] cause I can play 'Chevelle - Open.ogg" when it's under /home/files/music but not under /home/files/music/Chevelle - Point #1 [12:10] so what happens for you [12:10] and it spews some glib assertions on the console [12:10] and stops at 0:00 [12:11] yeah [12:11] yea, it just doesn't play... the play button goes to 'play' but does nothing [12:11] right [12:11] so you see the same behavior? [12:11] yes [12:11] I'll report upstream === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.96.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:18] ah, good, already reported and fixed [12:21] tseng: and if you're not horribly busy, wanna review those gsf-sharp packages I have... dholbach suggested I ask you... he's already reviewed them, as has jdub [12:21] where to [12:21] http://schweeb.org/~chris/ubuntu [12:22] and write any comments in http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUNewPackages [12:22] yeah dyde [12:22] dude. [12:22] it looks good [12:22] im not going to build it atm, since they did [12:22] i read the diff.gz [12:23] (i didnt build it) [12:23] jdub did I'm pretty sure, dholbach didn't === tseng trusts jdub [12:24] :) [12:25] but the debian/ looks fine [12:25] dholbach: should I get anyone else to review, or that good enough then? [12:25] schweeb, did you fix the unstable/hoary thing ? [12:25] yep [12:26] so i would say its ready to go in [12:26] excellent :) [12:26] 3 reviews are enough [12:28] hey, discover pbuilds here [12:30] uuuh discover...ugly [12:35] tseng: better to discuss it here, read http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-hardened/2005-March/000003.html [12:36] hm [12:36] i thought you started off #ubuntu-hardened? [12:37] dholbach: yeah [12:37] so why do you need to discuss that here ? [12:38] ogra: maybe it's of the interest of other people [12:38] then i would join -hardened === trulux takes his marbles and continues on #ubuntu-hardened [12:38] it's not exactly motu related, is it? not wanting to chuck you guys out [12:39] dholbach: nah, it's ok, will continue on -hardened [12:39] right [12:39] free beers there, anyone interested, join ;D [12:39] heh === dholbach has tea and cookies here [12:39] trulux, sorry, nothing personal... === dholbach isnt that hard. ;-) === ogra neither === dholbach throws 5 in the "stupid wordplay cash box" [12:42] so no more uploads today it seems... [12:42] buildds get turned off or what? [12:42] right upload.u.c's going away! [12:43] dunno for how long [12:43] ahh [12:43] hrm [12:45] what's you guys' opinion on this... Xen is in the Priority list... albeit about halfway down... but, it's a really really old version... I've been working on making packages of 2.0.5 myself... should I fix the old ones, or should I try getting mine good enough to upload? [12:45] xen 2.0 packages are stuck in debian NEW queue [12:45] yea [12:45] doogie's packages are hackish [12:46] from what I saw [12:47] although, xen's python stuff may have to be used w/ python2.3... I don't know firsthand, but fabbione only got them working w/ 2.3 [12:47] looks like it takes a bit for uploads.ubuntu.com to come up again (see -devel) [12:48] haha [12:48] nice [12:48] .5TB fsck [12:55] well, I guess it'll come back up in a few hours then ;) [12:57] lets see waht elmo decides... [12:59] ogra: glad we share taste in filesystems... I won't touch reiser either [01:00] :) [01:01] although I've had a couple of XFS incdents as of late... related to the 2.6.8 kernels [01:01] but playing out the journals fixed it [01:07] yeah, thats the great thing with xfs, you'll be always able to fix it [01:08] good night... i'm off [01:08] night [01:08] night dholbach [01:08] this may just be the "gentoo effect" but it seems to me that XFS is faster too [01:09] dholbach: night [01:09] (than ext2/3) === schweeb heads home [01:14] bye schweeb === lamont fixes exim. [02:15] well, shut it up anyway === goedson [~goedson@200.150.28.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:19] hehe === schweeb browses the priority list for something else to fix [02:23] ogra: ping. [02:44] ok, gkrellm builds on "all 4" arches now, so removing from UniverseDoesNotBuild [02:45] cool [02:45] <3 gkrellm === koke sleep() === blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chesty [~chesty@unconcerned.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [~daniel@td9091940.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:24] gooood morning [08:25] morning dholbach [08:26] hey daniel [08:26] how are you? [08:26] not too bad, wrapping up here at work, about to head home [08:27] yes... that sounds good :-) [08:28] i worked the popcon data into our lists and saw that xfce is _quite_ popular [08:28] i must underestimated that :-) [08:28] so good to have you and jani working on it [08:29] I should ping elmo again regarding that, thanks for reminding me :) [08:30] yeah and write a mail to him about it too [08:30] that's what he told me wrt morgu-ification [08:31] ok. james@nocrew.org ? [08:32] i wrote to james.troup@canonical.com - i guess they all end up at the same place :-) [08:32] sure thing === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:06] hrm... i'm trying to find out, how to find all of those lines from file1 that are simply NOT in file2 ( grep -v -f file1 file2 didn't work) and i can't stop diff from worrying about line changes [09:16] ok... python's a.__sub__(b) worked === doko_ [~doko___@dsl-084-059-041-195.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.96.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:43] good morning [10:45] hey siretart! [10:45] dholbach: I didn't ask elmo for whitelisting my email address. Shouldn't I first get a ubuntu "member" sending a signed the code of conduct to Mako? [10:45] do both [10:46] I'm note quite sure about the procedures... [10:46] ok I'll do [10:46] whitelisting is no problem and just requires adding your mailadress [10:46] for what exactly I'm whitelisted then? [10:46] you'll receive the buildds receipt mails then [10:46] and your name will appear on hoary-changes@ [10:47] ah, ok. I'll do [10:47] good === dholbach is dogwalking [10:49] have fun, cu! :) [11:20] re === lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:43] i'll have a look at bzflag [11:51] dholbach: woooo [11:51] i got the mail from Manoj [11:51] about keysigning [11:51] YES [11:51] ROCK [11:51] FINALLY [11:51] yeah [11:52] PAAAAAARTYYYYYYYYYYy [11:52] its been weeks :( [11:52] but you'll make it [11:52] that's the only thing that counts :-) [11:52] yeah. [11:56] dholbach: btw, if you run across any test failures where things bitch that /dev/null: permission denied, please let me know - I'm certain there are some. [11:56] preferred format is in the form: sourcepackage_version (with epoc) [11:56] ok [11:56] e.g.: kdeaddons_4:3.4.0-0ubuntu1 [11:57] i'm all cracked up concerning the lists [11:57] but will do [11:57] dholbach: actually, I expect I'll just run across all the log files looking for them once I'm awake again [11:57] take a rest [11:57] :-) [11:57] you deserve it [12:05] how can anyone make a native package of a 5mb tarball?! [12:05] s/5mb tarball//g [12:05] dholbach: why make a native package anyway? [12:05] dholbach: (99% of the time, that is) [12:06] yeah [12:06] i'm glad you're on my side [12:06] i sometimes even cry the whole night in bed because of that [12:07] dholbach: just hit the guy who did it in the head with some heavy, blunt object [12:08] i talked to my control-your-agressions group about that too, they said it was the wrong way to deal with it [12:09] you could take it out on HG instead [12:09] dholbach: it does feel good :) === tseng jokes. [12:09] tseng: :P [12:09] tseng: maybe he made the package [12:09] he doesnt do packaging, he just pushes other peoples work as his own [12:10] oh yeah [12:10] and then tries to hit me with blackmail and FUD === tseng sigh. [12:18] bzflag fixed [12:22] tseng: what other people's work? [12:23] Amaranth: yours, some other guy csj iirc [12:23] he kept reffering to cjs's package as "mine" [12:24] heh [12:24] because csj, who was here for 10 minutes total and never spoke, was apperantly told by me I would ban him [12:24] he kept trying to make the package for my stuff [12:24] which i definately said to no one but HG [12:24] the next time I have to say something it will be a final warning [12:25] ive been extremely patient [12:25] * HostingGeek has quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) [12:25] Remenic \o/ [12:25] hehe [12:25] no one likes him [12:25] it seems that way, heh. [12:25] moving on [12:25] Amaranth, he's our channel pet ;) (i never give up hope sadly) [12:26] ogra: /j #ubuntu-ogra [12:26] :P [12:26] hehe [12:27] i need to be getting ready for work [12:27] cya tonight, hopefully with a workable gpg key [12:28] yaeh [12:28] manoj++ [12:28] yippie === goedson [~goedson@200.150.28.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] hey goedson [01:14] bin grad mit meinen 2 cousinen am english-konversieren [01:14] ich bin beeindruckt [01:14] oops [01:18] Hi ogra. [01:19] I've uploaded a new gnomebaker package implementing your requests [01:19] goedson, changes done ? [01:19] Yep. [01:19] yeah, i'll look at it soon and do the upload ;) [01:20] ROCK [01:32] dholbach: ever figure out what was wrong with gsf-sharp? [01:35] hrm? [01:35] Amaranth, there is anything wrong ? [01:35] err, i think that's you [01:35] i use amd64, so i can't really tell [01:36] yeah, that's what i meant [01:37] what do you mean? [01:38] why doesn't it build? :) [01:38] because on amd64 mono doesnt build [01:38] at least 1.0.x doesnt [01:38] ah [01:39] people STILL write CPU-dependent C code? [01:39] *headdesks* === ogra [~ogra@p5089ED6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === goedson [~goedson@200.150.28.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.96.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] goedson, ok, i'm ready to upload it, one thing, could you make a soure.changes file for it .... (debuild -S) [02:41] there is only a i386.chages.... [02:41] +n [02:53] ogra: Doing it right now. === tritium [~rimbert@ee213-dhcp-1.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] Good morning, ajmitch, ogra, trulux. [02:58] goedson, great...then we'll have it in today ;) [02:58] hi tritium [02:59] How are things going? [03:02] tritium, just uploaded gsf-sharp..... [03:03] tritium, lets poke haggai or amu to give some judgement about kreciepes [03:03] I see... [03:03] ogra, okay. amu has already reviewed it for me. [03:04] Did you guys see that OSnews posting about X11 catching up to tiger/longhorn? [03:04] tritium, he didnt comment on the MOTUNewPackages page [03:04] ogra, true... [03:06] schweeb, please move gsf-sharp from MOTUNewPackages to UniverseNewPackages, its uploaded [03:07] HiddenWolf, to catch up ? we're far ahead http://www.gnome.org/~seth/ [03:09] HiddenWolf, are you referring to that luminosity demo? [03:10] with the wobbly windows? [03:10] ogra: uploaded. [03:10] yeah [03:11] tritium: yup [03:24] goedson, uploaded, so now they have to pass elmos eagle eyes :) please do the same i told schweeb above... [03:27] ogra: I believe above is before I connected :) [03:27] ogra: Can you repeate? [03:27] goedson, please move gnomebaker from MOTUNewPackages to UniverseNewPackages, its uploaded [03:29] hey tritium !!! [03:29] Hey there trulux :) [03:29] tritium: how's it going? [03:29] I'm great, thanks. How are you? [03:31] tritium: fine, finished many work, just fixing some things in the new libssp packages [03:31] very good [03:31] ogra: OK. Will do it now. [03:32] goedson, good :) [03:35] ogra: So now gnomebaker is waiting for elmo in two NEW queues. Universe and Debian :) [03:36] heh [03:36] goedson, ubuntu is usually faster [03:36] ogra: I hope so. [03:39] ogra: Should I link to the source package in my repository, until it is approved into universe? [03:39] yop [03:40] goedson, if we can sync it from debian, you can remove it completely from the wiki [03:42] ogra, Will it be the case if it is in NEW? Or only when approved for Debian? [03:43] if its in the debian repo [03:43] our NEW policy only applies to packages that are in neither of them.... [03:44] so if its in debian and we can sync it, its a regular package for us [03:52] OK. [03:53] Should I remove the reviews from the MOTUNewPackages? === goedson is going to lunch, now. [03:57] goedson, nope, leave them there if elmo has questions....if the package is in the archive you can remove them too [04:00] OK. [04:03] Done. [04:03] great thanks :) === dholbach [~daniel@td9091940.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] re [04:47] hi lamont [04:48] lamont: you know what went wrong here (http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/p/pingus/0.6.0-8/) and here (http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/l/lbreakout2/2.5.1-1/)? === lamont looks [04:48] lamont: they both have funny "pkgstriptranslations: inconsistent /CurrentlyBuilding file, Package: value is YYY (should be XXX)"-lines [04:49] which arch? [04:49] i386 [04:50] dholbach: there were two buildd's running on that machine... [04:51] ah and then pkgstriptranslations didnt happen in the chroot? [04:52] dholbach: and then pkgstriptranslations killed the build in anger [04:52] hi dholbach === lamont gives both back just to be sure [04:52] then someone should tell pkgstriptranslations to be nice and easy and maybe even sign the CoC [04:52] hey tritium [04:53] dholbach, it hasnt yet ? [04:54] well... if it is killing like that [04:54] and not controlling anger... that makes me really sad [04:54] dholbach, talk to the maintainer ;) [04:56] ogra: cool :) [04:56] schweeb, please leave the review stuff up until it passed elmo, if he has questions [04:57] alright === encolpe [~encolpe@pilot.net2.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:59] thanks lamont [05:01] dholbach: if you see any more, and they aren't 'needs-build' in wanna-build, holler. ditto for any '/dev/null: permission denied' messages [05:01] i will [05:01] our lists are way to full anyway ;:-) [05:01] think of it as a challenge... [05:01] i already do so [05:02] lamont: but thanks for working with us, i'm glad you're around [05:03] ogra: done [05:03] great [05:03] thanks :) === froosch_ [~cz@a2125951139.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb considers attempting to package mono 1.0.6 so we can get beagle 0.0.8 [05:10] schweeb, please coordinate with tseng, he's the MOTUMono teamlead === goedson [~goedson@200.150.28.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:25] ogra: yea, sure will === dholbach [~daniel@td90919ad.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:25] good [05:26] dholbach, oh, short dogwalk today [05:26] I think he's been attempting to package 1.1.4 (as have I) but I run into problems as soon as I compile it as a package rather than just manually === tritium goes to lunch... === maskie [~maskie@196-30-108-35.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === maskie_ [~maskie@196-30-108-35.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rubenv [~lambda1@83-134-130-157.Leuven.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:41] crimsun, i gave up on jack__, he simply doesnt listen... [06:49] hi crimsun [06:51] hi tritium! [06:51] &ogra :) [06:52] :) [06:52] :0 [06:52] :) === Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S01060020ed20f68f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jani [~pet@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:08] hello all [07:08] alo [07:09] hey jani [07:09] looks like elmo did not sync xfce4.2 yet right? [07:09] those build errors are for 4.0 [07:09] jani: not yet [07:10] did he ack the request though? [07:10] hasn't gotten back [07:10] just emailed, actually [07:10] I batched the request with one for alsa-source/universe [07:10] ok I thought it was just the IRC ping :) [07:11] yeah, I pinged him earlier, but email was suggested [07:11] alsa-source is built by a package in main (alsa-driver), and a modified one at that [07:11] mdz: ah that's right! [07:11] mdz: unfortunately I guess I that means there's no chance of pulling in Thomas's 1.0.8+1.0.9rc2-1 packages [07:12] crimsun: I don't think that would be wise at this juncture, no [07:12] mdz: right-o. [07:13] he has merged/obsoleted several of our patches, though, so we should be able to clean things up after Hoary [07:13] great [07:14] mdz, for GPG id whitelisting for uni upload is elmo the person? [07:16] jani: yes [07:16] thanks,I'll mail him then I never seem to catch him here [07:16] jani: whitelisting (receipt mails) and keyring (uploading) are two different things [07:17] that's soooo great! [07:17] oh, well keyring then [07:17] wiki/Uploads [07:22] I'm getting occasional Input/output errors when I ls, rm, mv, cat various files. [07:23] wonder if my journal is screwy, or if my drive is going bad [07:23] tritium: anything in dmesg? === rubenv [~lambda1@83-134-132-119.Leuven.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:24] dholbach, nothing that would indicate a problem, no [07:24] tritium: journal errors are reported as journal errors and almost always result in an immediate remounting of the partition as read-only [07:24] crimsun, okay, thanks. Hmm... [07:24] tritium: hardware errors are more likely :/ [07:24] I think you're right. I just replaced the hard drive in this laptop in November. [07:24] I wonder if the controller is bad. [07:25] I envy you folks with laptops :p [07:25] crimsun, can't you use any of your university discretionary funds to get you one? ;) [07:26] crimsun: i don't own one myself, hope that comforts you a bit :-) [07:26] elmos email address? [07:26] nocrew or canonical [07:26] jani: wiki/Uploads [07:26] maybe I'll replace this soon anyway. ogra - you have an amd64 laptop, am I right? [07:27] not his address but keyring at ubuntu.is he reading that? [07:27] jani: he read it in my case [07:27] jani: he reads that [07:27] dholbach: :) [07:27] ok thanks === encolpe [~encolpe@pilot.net2.nerim.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [07:31] Thanks for the trouble-shooting advice dholbach and crimsun. I think I'm going to go backup some important files :) === tritium [~rimbert@ee213-dhcp-1.ecn.purdue.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [07:32] alright... have a nice day/evening/morning pals... i'm off - must run to get the train [07:32] cya dholbach === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:37] re [07:37] erm [07:37] hi [07:38] hi [07:48] whoops, just fell asleep for an hour [07:48] hehe [07:48] power nap! [07:49] it can't be bad :-) [07:49] yeah, preparing for the hacking night :) [07:49] :) [07:56] crimsun, ubuntulog is fabbionnes logbot ;) [07:56] *grin* [07:56] hehe, too fast with the tab-completion :) [07:57] heh [07:57] but nice that you apologized [08:02] jani: whitelisting is based on email address, but yes, elmo [08:04] jani, I still wonder how you made the notary authenticate your GPG key [08:04] herve, she just authenticated a declaration I gave [08:04] anything in that decl is my responsability [08:05] that's why I thought [08:05] I could write about anything [08:05] herve, you fingerprint would be a good idea i guess ;) [08:05] I should somehow type my password in front of her for a proof [08:06] ogra, the real one? ;-) [08:06] :-P === herve will add a photograph to his key, that's a start === ogra -> dinner [08:09] l8r ogra === Cturtle [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:54] wohooo [10:54] voodooo === ogra just found out that he leads his netblock [10:54] http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=HEUROPE-NET,217.115.138.0,217.115.143.255 [10:54] what a fuck, cracklib is an asspain while building new PAM (upgraded to 0.78) [10:58] heh [11:00] yeah! I lead mine too! [11:00] er... I'm alon on it :-p [11:00] (alone) [11:01] heh [11:02] who maintains cracklib? I have the knife ready for fun === trulux|working grins like a psycho [11:02] herve, i actually never thought i would pass the server of astalavista.com, its right beside mine [11:02] ajmitch: there? [11:06] well I was here 5 minutes ago.. [11:06] maybe it was an answering machine :-) [11:06] perhaps ;) [11:08] ajmitch: I'm starting to get annoyed with the cracklib shit, the dicts are installed in the right place, cracklib is properly configured, but I won't be able to finnish Linux-PAM 0.78 for Breezy until someone tells me what's the hell that makes it saying "checking path to cracklib dictionary... configure: error: none found" [11:08] fun :) [11:08] got something for me to look at then? [11:10] ajmitch: I have a task for you if you want it [11:10]