[12:02] <dholbach> i simply hate when autoconf-stuff doesnt work in the buildd anymore
[12:07] <schweeb> hrmm
[12:07] <schweeb> think I found a bug in muine :)
[12:07] <schweeb> tseng: you wanna test something for me?
[12:08] <tseng> what
[12:08] <schweeb> tseng: make a path to some music with a '#' sign in it.... i.e. "Chevelle - Point #1"... and see if the files under it play in muine
[12:08] <tseng> um
[12:09] <tseng> /home/brandon/rips/mp3/Fugazi/Repeater + 3 Songs/03. Fugazi - Brendan #1.mp3
[12:09] <tseng> hows that
[12:09] <schweeb> the path
[12:09] <tseng> uh
[12:09] <schweeb> the directory I think does it
[12:09] <schweeb> from what I can tell
[12:10] <schweeb> cause I can play 'Chevelle - Open.ogg" when it's under /home/files/music but not under /home/files/music/Chevelle - Point #1
[12:10] <tseng> so what happens for you
[12:10] <schweeb> and it spews some glib assertions on the console
[12:10] <tseng> and stops at 0:00
[12:11] <tseng> yeah
[12:11] <schweeb> yea, it just doesn't play... the play button goes to 'play' but does nothing
[12:11] <tseng> right
[12:11] <schweeb> so you see the same behavior?
[12:11] <tseng> yes
[12:11] <schweeb> I'll report upstream
[12:18] <schweeb> ah, good, already reported and fixed
[12:21] <schweeb> tseng: and if you're not horribly busy, wanna review those gsf-sharp packages I have... dholbach suggested I ask you... he's already reviewed them, as has jdub
[12:21] <tseng> where to
[12:21] <schweeb> http://schweeb.org/~chris/ubuntu
[12:22] <schweeb> and write any comments in http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUNewPackages
[12:22] <tseng> yeah dyde
[12:22] <tseng> dude.
[12:22] <tseng> it looks good
[12:22] <tseng> im not going to build it atm, since they did
[12:22] <tseng> i read the diff.gz
[12:23] <dholbach> (i didnt build it)
[12:23] <schweeb> jdub did I'm pretty sure, dholbach didn't
[12:24] <schweeb> :)
[12:25] <tseng> but the debian/ looks fine
[12:25] <schweeb> dholbach: should I get anyone else to review, or that good enough then?
[12:25] <ogra> schweeb, did you fix the unstable/hoary thing ?
[12:25] <schweeb> yep
[12:26] <ogra> so i would say its ready to go in
[12:26] <schweeb> excellent :)
[12:26] <ogra> 3 reviews are enough
[12:28] <koke> hey, discover pbuilds here
[12:30] <ogra> uuuh discover...ugly
[12:35] <trulux> tseng: better to discuss it here, read http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-hardened/2005-March/000003.html
[12:36] <tseng> hm
[12:36] <dholbach> i thought you started off #ubuntu-hardened?
[12:37] <trulux> dholbach: yeah
[12:37] <ogra> so why do you need to discuss that here ?
[12:38] <trulux> ogra: maybe it's of the interest of other people
[12:38] <ogra> then i would join -hardened
[12:38] <dholbach> it's not exactly motu related, is it? not wanting to chuck you guys out
[12:39] <trulux> dholbach: nah, it's ok, will continue on -hardened
[12:39] <dholbach> right
[12:39] <trulux> free beers there, anyone interested, join ;D
[12:39] <ogra> heh
[12:39] <ogra> trulux, sorry, nothing personal...
[12:42] <ogra> so no more uploads today it seems...
[12:42] <schweeb> buildds get turned off or what?
 right upload.u.c's going away!
[12:43] <ogra> dunno for how long
[12:43] <schweeb> ahh
[12:43] <schweeb> hrm
[12:45] <schweeb> what's you guys' opinion on this... Xen is in the Priority list... albeit about halfway down... but, it's a really really old version... I've been working on making packages of 2.0.5 myself... should I fix the old ones, or should I try getting mine good enough to upload?
[12:45] <ajmitch> xen 2.0 packages are stuck in debian NEW queue
[12:45] <schweeb> yea
[12:45] <schweeb> doogie's packages are hackish
[12:46] <schweeb> from what I saw
[12:47] <schweeb> although, xen's python stuff may have to be used w/ python2.3... I don't know firsthand, but fabbione only got them working w/ 2.3
[12:47] <ogra> looks like it takes a bit for uploads.ubuntu.com to come up again (see -devel)
[12:48] <schweeb> haha
[12:48] <schweeb> nice
[12:48] <schweeb> .5TB fsck
[12:55] <ajmitch> well, I guess it'll come back up in a few hours then ;)
[12:57] <ogra> lets see waht elmo decides...
[12:59] <schweeb> ogra: glad we share taste in filesystems... I won't touch reiser either
[01:00] <ogra> :)
[01:01] <schweeb> although I've had a couple of XFS incdents as of late... related to the 2.6.8 kernels
[01:01] <schweeb> but playing out the journals fixed it
[01:07] <ogra> yeah, thats the great thing with xfs, you'll be always able to fix it
[01:08] <dholbach> good night... i'm off
[01:08] <schweeb> night
[01:08] <ogra> night dholbach
[01:08] <schweeb> this may just be the "gentoo effect" but it seems to me that XFS is faster too
[01:09] <koke> dholbach: night
[01:09] <schweeb> (than ext2/3)
[01:14] <ogra> bye schweeb
[02:15] <lamont> well, shut it up anyway
[02:19] <schweeb> hehe
[02:23] <goedson> ogra: ping.
[02:44] <crimsun> ok, gkrellm builds on "all 4" arches now, so removing from UniverseDoesNotBuild
[02:45] <schweeb> cool
[02:45] <schweeb> <3 gkrellm
[08:24] <dholbach> gooood morning
[08:25] <crimsun> morning dholbach
[08:26] <dholbach> hey daniel
[08:26] <dholbach> how are you?
[08:26] <crimsun> not too bad, wrapping up here at work, about to head home
[08:27] <dholbach> yes... that sounds good :-)
[08:28] <dholbach> i worked the popcon data into our lists and saw that xfce is _quite_ popular
[08:28] <dholbach> i must underestimated that :-)
[08:28] <dholbach> so good to have you and jani working on it
[08:29] <crimsun> I should ping elmo again regarding that, thanks for reminding me :)
[08:30] <dholbach> yeah and write a mail to him about it too
[08:30] <dholbach> that's what he told me wrt morgu-ification
[08:31] <crimsun> ok. james@nocrew.org ?
[08:32] <dholbach> i wrote to james.troup@canonical.com - i guess they all end up at the same place :-)
[08:32] <crimsun> sure thing
[09:06] <dholbach> hrm... i'm trying to find out, how to find all of those lines from file1 that are simply NOT in file2 (  grep -v -f file1 file2   didn't work) and i can't stop  diff  from worrying about line changes
[09:16] <dholbach> ok... python's  a.__sub__(b) worked
[10:43] <siretart> good morning
[10:45] <dholbach> hey siretart!
[10:45] <siretart> dholbach: I didn't ask elmo for whitelisting my email address. Shouldn't I first get a ubuntu "member" sending a signed the code of conduct to Mako?
[10:45] <dholbach> do both
[10:46] <siretart> I'm note quite sure about the procedures...
[10:46] <siretart> ok I'll do
[10:46] <dholbach> whitelisting is no problem and just requires adding your mailadress
[10:46] <siretart> for what exactly I'm whitelisted then?
[10:46] <dholbach> you'll receive the buildds receipt mails then
[10:46] <dholbach> and your name will appear on hoary-changes@
[10:47] <siretart> ah, ok. I'll do
[10:47] <dholbach> good
[10:49] <siretart> have fun, cu! :)
[11:20] <dholbach> re
[11:43] <dholbach> i'll have a look at bzflag
[11:51] <tseng> dholbach: woooo
[11:51] <tseng> i got the mail from Manoj
[11:51] <tseng> about keysigning
[11:51] <dholbach> YES
[11:51] <dholbach> ROCK
[11:51] <dholbach> FINALLY
[11:51] <tseng> yeah
[11:52] <dholbach> PAAAAAARTYYYYYYYYYYy
[11:52] <tseng> its been weeks :(
[11:52] <dholbach> but you'll make it
[11:52] <dholbach> that's the only thing that counts :-)
[11:52] <tseng> yeah.
[11:56] <lamont> dholbach: btw, if you run across any  test failures where things bitch that /dev/null: permission denied, please let me know - I'm certain there are some.
[11:56] <lamont> preferred format is in the form: sourcepackage_version (with epoc)
[11:56] <dholbach> ok
[11:56] <lamont> e.g.: kdeaddons_4:3.4.0-0ubuntu1
[11:57] <dholbach> i'm all cracked up concerning the lists
[11:57] <dholbach> but will do
[11:57] <lamont> dholbach: actually, I expect I'll just run across all the log files looking for them once I'm awake again
[11:57] <dholbach> take a rest
[11:57] <dholbach> :-)
[11:57] <dholbach> you deserve it
[12:05] <dholbach> how can anyone make a native package of a 5mb tarball?!
[12:05] <tseng> s/5mb tarball//g
[12:05] <Treenaks> dholbach: why make a native package anyway?
[12:05] <Treenaks> dholbach: (99% of the time, that is)
[12:06] <dholbach> yeah
[12:06] <dholbach> i'm glad you're on my side
[12:06] <dholbach> i sometimes even cry the whole night in bed because of that
[12:07] <Treenaks> dholbach: just hit the guy who did it in the head with some heavy, blunt object
[12:08] <dholbach> i talked to my control-your-agressions group about that too, they said it was the wrong way to deal with it
[12:09] <tseng> you could take it out on HG instead
[12:09] <Treenaks> dholbach: it does feel good :)
[12:09] <Treenaks> tseng: :P
[12:09] <Treenaks> tseng: maybe he made the package
[12:09] <tseng> he doesnt do packaging, he just pushes other peoples work as his own
[12:10] <Treenaks> oh yeah
[12:10] <tseng> and then tries to hit me with blackmail and FUD
[12:18] <dholbach> bzflag fixed
[12:22] <Amaranth> tseng: what other people's work?
[12:23] <tseng> Amaranth: yours, some other guy csj iirc
[12:23] <tseng> he kept reffering to cjs's package as "mine"
[12:24] <Amaranth> heh
[12:24] <tseng> because csj, who was here for 10 minutes total and never spoke, was apperantly told by me I would ban him
[12:24] <Amaranth> he kept trying to make the package for my stuff
[12:24] <tseng> which i definately said to no one but HG
[12:24] <tseng> the next time I have to say something it will be a final warning
[12:25] <tseng> ive been extremely patient
[12:25] <Amaranth> * HostingGeek has quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds)
[12:25] <Amaranth> Remenic \o/
[12:25] <Amaranth> hehe
[12:25] <Amaranth> no one likes him
[12:25] <tseng> it seems that way, heh.
[12:25] <tseng> moving on
[12:25] <ogra> Amaranth, he's our channel pet ;) (i never give up hope sadly)
[12:26] <Treenaks> ogra: /j #ubuntu-ogra
[12:26] <Treenaks> :P
[12:26] <ogra> hehe
[12:27] <tseng> i need to be getting ready for work
[12:27] <tseng> cya tonight, hopefully with a workable gpg key
[12:28] <ogra> yaeh
[12:28] <tseng> manoj++
[12:28] <ogra> yippie
[01:08] <ogra> hey goedson
[01:14] <dholbach> bin grad mit meinen 2 cousinen am english-konversieren
[01:14] <dholbach> ich bin beeindruckt
[01:14] <dholbach> oops
[01:18] <goedson> Hi ogra.
[01:19] <goedson> I've uploaded a new gnomebaker package implementing your requests
[01:19] <ogra> goedson, changes done ?
[01:19] <goedson> Yep.
[01:19] <ogra> yeah, i'll look at it soon and do the upload ;)
[01:20] <dholbach> ROCK
[01:32] <Amaranth> dholbach: ever figure out what was wrong with gsf-sharp?
[01:35] <dholbach> hrm?
[01:35] <ogra> Amaranth, there is anything wrong ?
[01:35] <Amaranth> err, i think that's you
[01:35] <dholbach> i use amd64, so i can't really tell
[01:36] <Amaranth> yeah, that's what i meant
[01:37] <dholbach> what do you mean?
[01:38] <Amaranth> why doesn't it build? :)
[01:38] <dholbach> because on amd64 mono doesnt build
[01:38] <dholbach> at least 1.0.x doesnt
[01:38] <Amaranth> ah
[01:39] <Treenaks> people STILL write CPU-dependent C code?
[01:39] <Treenaks> *headdesks*
[02:41] <ogra> goedson, ok, i'm ready to upload it, one thing, could you make a soure.changes file for it .... (debuild -S)
[02:41] <ogra> there is only a i386.chages....
[02:41] <ogra> +n
[02:53] <goedson> ogra: Doing it right now.
[02:56] <tritium> Good morning, ajmitch, ogra, trulux.
[02:58] <ogra> goedson, great...then we'll have it in today ;)
[02:58] <ogra> hi tritium
[02:59] <tritium> How are things going?
[03:02] <ogra> tritium, just uploaded gsf-sharp.....
[03:03] <ogra> tritium, lets poke haggai or amu to give some judgement about kreciepes
[03:03] <tritium> I see...
[03:03] <tritium> ogra, okay.  amu has already reviewed it for me.
[03:04] <HiddenWolf> Did you guys see that OSnews posting about X11 catching up to tiger/longhorn?
[03:04] <ogra> tritium, he didnt comment on the MOTUNewPackages page
[03:04] <tritium> ogra, true...
[03:06] <ogra> schweeb, please move gsf-sharp from MOTUNewPackages to UniverseNewPackages, its uploaded
[03:07] <ogra> HiddenWolf, to catch up ? we're far ahead http://www.gnome.org/~seth/
[03:09] <tritium> HiddenWolf, are you referring to that luminosity demo?
[03:10] <tritium> with the wobbly windows?
[03:10] <goedson> ogra: uploaded.
[03:10] <ogra> yeah
[03:11] <HiddenWolf> tritium: yup
[03:24] <ogra> goedson, uploaded, so now they have to pass elmos eagle eyes :) please do the same i told schweeb above...
[03:27] <goedson> ogra: I believe above is before I connected :)
[03:27] <goedson> ogra: Can you repeate?
[03:27] <ogra> goedson, please move gnomebaker from MOTUNewPackages to UniverseNewPackages, its uploaded
[03:29] <trulux> hey tritium !!!
[03:29] <tritium> Hey there trulux :)
[03:29] <trulux> tritium: how's it going?
[03:29] <tritium> I'm great, thanks.  How are you?
[03:31] <trulux> tritium: fine, finished many work, just fixing some things in the new libssp packages
[03:31] <tritium> very good
[03:31] <goedson> ogra: OK. Will do it now.
[03:32] <ogra> goedson, good :)
[03:35] <goedson> ogra: So now gnomebaker is waiting for elmo in two NEW queues. Universe and Debian :)
[03:36] <ogra> heh
[03:36] <ogra> goedson, ubuntu is usually faster
[03:36] <goedson> ogra: I hope so.
[03:39] <goedson> ogra: Should I link to the source package in my repository, until it is approved into universe?
[03:39] <ogra> yop
[03:40] <ogra> goedson, if we can sync it from debian, you can remove it completely from the wiki
[03:42] <goedson> ogra, Will it be the case if it is in NEW? Or only when approved for Debian?
[03:43] <ogra> if its in the debian repo
[03:43] <ogra> our NEW policy only applies to packages that are in neither of them....
[03:44] <ogra> so if its in debian and we can sync it, its a regular package for us
[03:52] <goedson> OK.
[03:53] <goedson> Should I remove the reviews from the MOTUNewPackages?
[03:57] <ogra> goedson, nope, leave them there if elmo has questions....if the package is in the archive you can remove them too
[04:00] <goedson> OK.
[04:03] <goedson> Done.
[04:03] <ogra> great thanks :)
[04:46] <dholbach> re
[04:47] <dholbach> hi lamont
[04:48] <dholbach> lamont: you know what went wrong here (http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/p/pingus/0.6.0-8/) and here (http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/l/lbreakout2/2.5.1-1/)?
[04:48] <dholbach> lamont: they both have funny "pkgstriptranslations: inconsistent /CurrentlyBuilding file, Package: value is YYY (should be XXX)"-lines
[04:49] <lamont> which arch?
[04:49] <dholbach> i386
[04:50] <lamont> dholbach: there were two buildd's running on that machine...
[04:51] <dholbach> ah and then  pkgstriptranslations  didnt happen in the chroot?
[04:52] <lamont> dholbach: and then pkgstriptranslations killed the build in anger
[04:52] <tritium> hi dholbach
[04:52] <dholbach> then someone should tell pkgstriptranslations to be nice and easy and maybe even sign the CoC
[04:52] <dholbach> hey tritium
[04:53] <ogra> dholbach, it hasnt yet ?
[04:54] <dholbach> well... if it is killing like that
[04:54] <dholbach> and not controlling anger... that makes me really sad
[04:54] <ogra> dholbach, talk to the maintainer ;)
[04:56] <schweeb> ogra: cool :)
[04:56] <ogra> schweeb, please leave the review stuff up until it passed elmo, if he has questions
[04:57] <schweeb> alright
[04:59] <dholbach> thanks lamont
[05:01] <lamont> dholbach: if you see any more, and they aren't 'needs-build' in wanna-build, holler.  ditto for any '/dev/null: permission denied' messages
[05:01] <dholbach> i will
[05:01] <dholbach> our lists are way to full anyway ;:-)
[05:01] <lamont> think of it as a challenge...
[05:01] <dholbach> i already do so
[05:02] <dholbach> lamont: but thanks for working with us, i'm glad you're around
[05:03] <schweeb> ogra: done
[05:03] <ogra> great
[05:03] <ogra> thanks :)
[05:10] <ogra> schweeb, please coordinate with tseng, he's the MOTUMono teamlead
[05:25] <schweeb> ogra: yea, sure will
[05:25] <ogra> good
[05:26] <ogra> dholbach, oh, short dogwalk today
[05:26] <schweeb> I think he's been attempting to package 1.1.4 (as have I) but I run into problems as soon as I compile it as a package rather than just manually
[06:41] <ogra> crimsun, i gave up on jack__, he simply doesnt listen...
[06:49] <tritium> hi crimsun
[06:51] <crimsun> hi tritium!
[06:51] <crimsun> &ogra :)
[06:52] <ogra> :)
[06:52] <tritium> :0
[06:52] <tritium> :)
[07:08] <jani> hello all
[07:08] <crimsun> alo
[07:09] <dholbach> hey jani
[07:09] <jani> looks like elmo did not sync xfce4.2 yet right?
[07:09] <jani> those build errors are for 4.0
[07:09] <crimsun> jani: not yet
[07:10] <jani> did he ack the request though?
[07:10] <crimsun> hasn't gotten back
[07:10] <crimsun> just emailed, actually
[07:10] <crimsun> I batched the request with one for alsa-source/universe
[07:10] <jani> ok I thought it was just the IRC ping :)
[07:11] <crimsun> yeah, I pinged him earlier, but email was suggested
[07:11] <mdz> alsa-source is built by a package in main (alsa-driver), and a modified one at that
[07:11] <crimsun> mdz: ah that's right!
[07:11] <crimsun> mdz: unfortunately I guess I that means there's no chance of pulling in Thomas's 1.0.8+1.0.9rc2-1 packages
[07:12] <mdz> crimsun: I don't think that would be wise at this juncture, no
[07:12] <crimsun> mdz: right-o.
[07:13] <mdz> he has merged/obsoleted several of our patches, though, so we should be able to clean things up after Hoary
[07:13] <crimsun> great
[07:14] <jani> mdz, for GPG id whitelisting for uni upload is elmo the person?
[07:16] <dholbach> jani: yes
[07:16] <jani> thanks,I'll mail him then I never seem to catch him here
[07:16] <dholbach> jani: whitelisting (receipt mails) and keyring (uploading) are two different things
[07:17] <dholbach> that's soooo great!
[07:17] <jani> oh, well keyring then
[07:17] <dholbach> wiki/Uploads
[07:22] <tritium> I'm getting occasional Input/output errors when I ls, rm, mv, cat various files.
[07:23] <tritium> wonder if my journal is screwy, or if my drive is going bad
[07:23] <dholbach> tritium: anything in dmesg?
[07:24] <tritium> dholbach, nothing that would indicate a problem, no
[07:24] <crimsun> tritium: journal errors are reported as journal errors and almost always result in an immediate remounting of the partition as read-only
[07:24] <tritium> crimsun, okay, thanks.  Hmm...
[07:24] <crimsun> tritium: hardware errors are more likely :/
[07:24] <tritium> I think you're right.  I just replaced the hard drive in this laptop in November.
[07:24] <tritium> I wonder if the controller is bad.
[07:25] <crimsun> I envy you folks with laptops :p
[07:25] <tritium> crimsun, can't you use any of your university discretionary funds to get you one?  ;)
[07:26] <dholbach> crimsun: i don't own one myself, hope that comforts you a bit :-)
[07:26] <jani> elmos email address?
[07:26] <jani> nocrew or canonical
[07:26] <dholbach> jani: wiki/Uploads
[07:26] <tritium> maybe I'll replace this soon anyway.  ogra - you have an amd64 laptop, am I right?
[07:27] <jani> not his address but keyring at ubuntu.is he reading that?
[07:27] <dholbach> jani: he read it in my case
[07:27] <crimsun> jani: he reads that
[07:27] <crimsun> dholbach: :)
[07:27] <jani> ok thanks
[07:31] <tritium> Thanks for the trouble-shooting advice dholbach and crimsun.  I think I'm going to go backup some important files :)
[07:32] <dholbach> alright... have a nice day/evening/morning pals... i'm off - must run to get the train
[07:32] <crimsun> cya dholbach
[07:37] <herve> re
[07:37] <herve> erm
[07:37] <herve> hi
[07:38] <crimsun> hi
[07:48] <ogra> whoops, just fell asleep for an hour
[07:48] <crimsun> hehe
[07:48] <crimsun> power nap!
[07:49] <herve> it can't be bad :-)
[07:49] <ogra> yeah, preparing for the hacking night :)
[07:49] <crimsun> :)
[07:56] <ogra> crimsun, ubuntulog is fabbionnes logbot ;)
[07:56] <ogra> *grin*
[07:56] <crimsun> hehe, too fast with the tab-completion :)
[07:57] <ogra> heh
[07:57] <ogra> but nice that you apologized
[08:02] <mdz> jani: whitelisting is based on email address, but yes, elmo
[08:04] <herve> jani, I still wonder how you made the notary authenticate your GPG key
[08:04] <jani> herve, she just authenticated a declaration I gave
[08:04] <jani> anything in that decl is my responsability
[08:05] <herve> that's why I thought
[08:05] <herve> I could write about anything
[08:05] <ogra> herve, you fingerprint would be a good idea i guess ;)
[08:05] <herve> I should somehow type my password in front of her for a proof
[08:06] <herve> ogra, the real one? ;-)
[08:06] <ogra> :-P
[08:09] <crimsun> l8r ogra
[10:54] <ogra> wohooo
[10:54] <trulux|working> voodooo
[10:54] <ogra> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=HEUROPE-NET,217.115.138.0,217.115.143.255
[10:54] <trulux|working> what a fuck, cracklib is an asspain while building new PAM (upgraded to 0.78)
[10:58] <ajmitch> heh
[11:00] <herve> yeah! I lead mine too!
[11:00] <herve> er... I'm alon on it :-p
[11:00] <herve> (alone)
[11:01] <ogra> heh
[11:02] <trulux|working> who maintains cracklib? I have the knife ready for fun
[11:02] <ogra> herve, i actually never thought i would pass the server of astalavista.com, its right beside mine
[11:02] <trulux|working> ajmitch: there?
[11:06] <ajmitch> well I was here 5 minutes ago..
[11:06] <herve> maybe it was an answering machine :-)
[11:06] <ajmitch> perhaps ;)
[11:08] <trulux|working> ajmitch: I'm starting to get annoyed with the cracklib shit, the dicts are installed in the right place, cracklib is properly configured, but I won't be able to finnish Linux-PAM 0.78 for Breezy until someone tells me what's the hell that makes it saying "checking path to cracklib dictionary... configure: error: none found"
[11:08] <ajmitch> fun :)
[11:08] <ajmitch> got something for me to look at then?
[11:10] <trulux|working> ajmitch: I have a task for you if you want it
[11:10] <trulux|working> make the coreutils package
[11:10] <ogra> hmm, probably your system knows that breezy is vaporware until next month...
[11:10] <ajmitch> is there something wrong with the current coreutils? :)
[11:11] <trulux|working> ogra: my system is frustrated, annoyed, overloaded, fscked up and not capable of understanding sarcasm.Sory.
[11:11] <tseng> ogra: he is trying to get some selinux stuff going early
[11:11] <tseng> ogra: (very impatient)
[11:11] <trulux|working> ajmitch: maybe should we add SELinux?
[11:11] <ogra> tseng, i see that
[11:11] <ajmitch> trulux|working: are there not already patched packages?
[11:11] <trulux|working> ajmitch: yes, without a fixed PAM they won't build ;)
[11:12] <trulux|working> ajmitch: read current https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SELinux
[11:12] <trulux|working> tseng: holidays put me on steroids, no holidays, no extra solar power, no Ubuntu work
[11:12] <ajmitch> probably because I've got 0.77-0.se5 installed still :)
[11:12] <trulux|working> 2 days left to the end of holidays
[11:13] <trulux|working> ajmitch: right, look at http://pearls.tuxedo-es.org/selinux/ubuntu/cron/
[11:13] <trulux|working> erm
[11:13] <trulux|working> http://pearls.tuxedo-es.org/selinux/ubuntu/pam/
[11:13] <trulux|working> that's just the upstream diff
[11:13] <ajmitch> hah
[11:13] <ajmitch> 1MB diff
[11:13] <trulux|working> I have modified some debian-related stuff to make it at least building
[11:13] <ajmitch> good luck reviewing that ;)
[11:13] <trulux|working> ajmitch: I did, it's done
[11:14] <trulux|working> that's because 15 minutes of wasted time fsck me up and make me feeling disappointed
[11:14] <ajmitch> heh
[11:16] <trulux|working> ajmitch: could you get coreutils sources?
[11:16] <trulux|working> then...
[11:16] <ajmitch> I've got the source
[11:16] <trulux|working> get http://people.debian.org/~adric/selinux/coreutils/coreutils-5.2.1-selinux.tar.gz
[11:16] <ajmitch> I'm just trying to access fedora cvs
[11:16] <trulux|working> don't do that
[11:16] <ajmitch> I'm grabbing the ubuntu source
[11:16] <trulux|working> use that tarball
[11:16] <trulux|working> use the tarball I sent to you, please
[11:16] <ajmitch> that depends on what changes there are
[11:16] <trulux|working> decompress it on debian/patches/
[11:17] <trulux|working> red hat's ones but more fixed for compliance with other debian patches
[11:18] <trulux|working> I will work on the targeted policy
[11:19] <trulux|working> don't disturb ;D
[11:20] <ogra> trulux|working, could you do that i -hardened ?
[11:20] <ogra> in eevn
[11:20] <trulux|working> ogra: sure
[11:22] <ogra> who execpt dholbach worked on the priority list the last three days ? i know he is very dissapointed doing all the work alone recently ? and we are getting short of time...
[11:24] <herve> ogra, no one I'm afraid
[11:24] <ogra> we have excatly 11 days to get this done https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePriorityList
[11:24] <ogra> looks like a lot....
[11:25] <herve> hmm...
[11:25] <herve> I should clean packages I have done...
[11:25] <ogra> that would be good
[11:28] <herve> this
[11:28] <herve> just to be sure...
[11:28] <ajmitch> there are packages on that list such as kudzu that we just won't use
[11:29] <herve> it's ok for removing done packages from the sorted list?
[11:29] <ogra> but they are in universe
[11:29] <ajmitch> and what is wrong with packages like kismet?
[11:29] <ogra> ajmitch, look at the build logs
[11:29] <herve> kudzu is suggested for the morgue, as I rememer
[11:29] <ogra> herve, great...
[11:30] <ajmitch> ogra: sure, it doesn't build on amd64 only
[11:31] <schweeb> ajmitch: kismet should be fine
[11:31] <schweeb> just needs another kick
[11:31] <ajmitch> schweeb: again? :)
[11:31] <schweeb> yea :-/
[11:31] <schweeb> well
[11:31] <ajmitch> I see..
[11:31] <ajmitch> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:31] <ajmitch>   ethereal-dev: Depends: omniidl (> 1:3.0.4.1-10) but it is not installable or
[11:31] <ajmitch>                          omniidl4 (>= 4.0.1-2) but it is not going to be installed
[11:31] <ajmitch>                 Depends: snacc but it is not installable
[11:31] <ajmitch> E: Broken packages
[11:31] <schweeb> the buildd's were goofy yesterday
[11:32] <ajmitch> in the last build attempt
[11:32] <schweeb> which arch?
[11:32] <ajmitch> as I said, amd64
[11:32] <schweeb> I usually only look at i386, as that's what I can build for :)
[11:32] <schweeb> ah
[11:32] <ajmitch> as amd64 is the only reason it's in the list :)
[11:33] <schweeb> it wasn't building on x86 as of yesterday...
[11:33] <crimsun> i386 is usually not problematic; it's the other arches that we really have to fix up before March 30th
[11:33] <crimsun> (I recently got two friends to give me access to pbuilders on their amd64s so I could test)
[11:34] <schweeb> ajmitch: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/k/kismet/2004.04.R1-5/
[11:34] <schweeb> there's the latest build logs for it
[11:34] <ogra> hmm, snacc segfaults on build...
[11:34] <schweeb> so, it wasn't building on i386
[11:35] <ajmitch> uh..
[11:35] <ajmitch> fun, so I was looking at the wrong build logs
[11:35] <schweeb> yea
[11:35] <schweeb> there's 2 sets
[11:36] <schweeb> I don't know how lamont's sorting them exactly :-/
[11:36] <ajmitch> and it's the same culprit again, ethereal-dev
[11:36] <schweeb> which I fixed
[11:36] <ajmitch> Setting up ethereal-dev (0.10.4-3ubuntu1) ...
[11:36] <ajmitch> /var/lib/dpkg/info/ethereal-dev.postinst: line 7: /usr/bin/python2.3: No such file or directory
[11:36] <ajmitch> dpkg: error processing ethereal-dev (--configure):
[11:36] <ajmitch> crazy stuff
[11:36] <schweeb> I fixed that
[11:36] <schweeb> it would have worked, except the buildd's hadn't uploaded my fixes yet
[11:37] <schweeb> still missing snacc on amd64 though
[11:37] <ogra> hmm, seems it fails since quite some time, even in debian http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa-packages/2004/10/msg00120.html
[11:38] <schweeb> so, maybe no kismet for amd64?
[11:38] <ogra> looks like
[11:39] <herve> I don't want to blame anyone
[11:40] <herve> but I saw a package twice in the lsit :-)
[11:40] <herve> (poor daniel...)
[11:40] <trulux|working> pam 0.78 finished
[11:40] <trulux|working> (applause) :P
[11:41] <herve> clap clap!
[11:41] <herve> I pushed a few packages in the morgue proposal
[11:41] <ajmitch> depends if it works & has no regressions ;)
[11:43] <trulux|working> ajmitch: feel free to test, dear
[11:43] <trulux|working> ;P
[11:43] <ogra> herve, great, every package that is off the list will make dholbach happier
[11:44] <herve> I wonder how many need just a trivial fix
[11:44] <herve> ogra, you find it!
[11:44] <herve> that's the "let's make dholbach happy" transition!
[11:45] <ogra> yaeh
[11:46] <ogra> crimsun, whats the status of xfce4 ?
[11:50] <herve> doko, ping
[11:51] <crimsun> ogra: awaiting word from James
[11:51] <crimsun> ogra: I emailed him earlier regarding syncing from os-works
[11:51] <ogra> ah, great :)
[11:52] <ogra> ok, i added a can't build section on the page....
[11:53] <ogra> crimsun, sorry, i'm to blind, just saw your comment on the list page, ignore me
[11:53] <crimsun> ogra: np
[11:55] <herve> hmm...
[11:55] <herve> strange slune is there
[11:55] <herve> another buildd bug it seems
[11:57] <ogra> what is slune ? seems i386 only...
[11:58] <herve> a 3D game in python
[11:58] <ogra> hmm, so why is it i386 only...
[11:58] <herve> I thought it could be broken by soya, that FTBFS
[11:58] <herve> but soya is even missing from the priority lsit
[11:58] <herve> though it's in the python transition
[11:59] <ogra> hmm, seems slune has only i386 in the arch list, weird...older versions are arch all
[12:00] <herve> apt-cache says Arch: all