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| lamont | Min drive buffer fill was 38% | 02:13 |
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| dilinger | overburn.. | 02:47 |
| dilinger | er, burnfree | 02:47 |
| dilinger | that's the one | 02:47 |
| lamont | well, was cd-rw, so not soo bad... | 03:55 |
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| Roey | oh | 04:28 |
| Roey | hello | 04:28 |
| Roey | this place exists? | 04:28 |
| Roey | I see the usual suspects | 04:28 |
| Roey | calc, crimsun | 04:28 |
| Roey | <Roey> ok | 04:29 |
| Roey | <Roey> so two issues: | 04:29 |
| Roey | <Roey> 1) I try to boot, say, my own custom kernel with raid1 built in: | 04:29 |
| Roey | <Roey> http://rafb.net/paste/results/2qaAZM82.html | 04:29 |
| Roey | <calc> so on that one the problem is the device nodes aren't being created in /dev | 04:29 |
| Roey | <Roey> hmm | 04:29 |
| Roey | <Roey> 22:27:36 ~ ls /dev/md* | 04:29 |
| Roey | <Roey> /dev/md0 /dev/md1 /dev/md2 | 04:29 |
| Roey | <Roey> but I hit ctrl-d twice and it boots up fine | 04:29 |
| Roey | <Roey> mounts the stuff it needs, etc. | 04:29 |
| Roey | there. | 04:29 |
| zul | alright online mugshots | 04:30 |
| Roey | oh? :) | 04:34 |
| Roey | oh | 04:39 |
| Roey | god damn it | 04:39 |
| Roey | right I forgot... | 04:39 |
| Roey | you need a patched cramfs to load initrd's for custom kernels. | 04:39 |
| Roey | god damn it! | 04:40 |
| Roey | and LILO doesn't work... | 04:40 |
| Roey | oof | 04:40 |
| crimsun | you love it. Admit it, you love the pain. | 04:40 |
| === Roey bows his head | ||
| Roey | yes | 04:40 |
| Roey | I admit it | 04:40 |
| Roey | I could be content with Kubuntu | 04:40 |
| Roey | but I admit it, I need to push the envelop | 04:40 |
| Roey | *envelope | 04:40 |
| Roey | actually | 04:40 |
| Roey | I need to (1) get rid of that error on startup, | 04:41 |
| Roey | and (2) install the latest nvidia drivers, | 04:41 |
| Roey | and (3) patch the kernel so that it properly supports nvidia. | 04:41 |
| Roey | er | 04:41 |
| Roey | nvidia and WACOM TABLETS. | 04:41 |
| Roey | <megabyte405> Roey: got a dos boot disk? Boot onto it, FDISK all partitions away, then at the prompt type "fdisk /mbr" no quotes. Then try again. Partition table might be weirded out | 05:04 |
| Roey | is this guy legitimately helping?? | 05:04 |
| zul | oh hell im going to bed...night | 05:13 |
| Roey | heh | 05:16 |
| Roey | #ubuntu is /no/ help | 05:16 |
| Roey | every | 05:16 |
| Roey | **ever**. | 05:16 |
| crimsun | Roey: your problem is rather advanced. I doubt many people, if any, will be able to help you sort it. | 05:40 |
| crimsun | Roey: maybe jasonbox? | 05:40 |
| Roey | hmm | 05:41 |
| Roey | dunno? | 05:41 |
| Roey | at this point, fine | 05:41 |
| Roey | I'll give in to grub | 05:41 |
| Roey | and official Ubuntu kernels. | 05:41 |
| Roey | I give up. | 05:41 |
| Roey | I just want to know if I can compile my own kernel (following The Debian Way) and have it running. | 05:42 |
| crimsun | I'm absolutely certain you can given you don't change anything | 05:42 |
| Roey | like what? | 05:43 |
| Roey | I want to apply the latest nvidia and wacom patches | 05:43 |
| Roey | that's all | 05:43 |
| crimsun | nvidia you'd do externally | 05:46 |
| crimsun | so you don't need to recompile | 05:46 |
| crimsun | wacom, don't know much about. Got a url? | 05:46 |
| Roey | http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/debwacom | 05:46 |
| crimsun | does the version in the Ubuntu kernel not work? | 05:47 |
| Roey | nope | 05:47 |
| Roey | see what happens is that: | 05:47 |
| Roey | Xorg, if you load mousedev, | 05:47 |
| Roey | steals control of the cursor/eraser/stylus devices from the kernel wacom driver. | 05:48 |
| Roey | the patched wacom module detects when this happens | 05:48 |
| Roey | and prevents it | 05:48 |
| Roey | er | 05:48 |
| Roey | or relinquishes control to Xorg | 05:48 |
| Roey | instead of trying to manage it itself. | 05:48 |
| Roey | s/it/them | 05:48 |
| crimsun | ok, and this allows the cursor/eraser/stylus devices to work alongside the mouse and any other input devices? | 05:49 |
| Roey | yes | 05:50 |
| Roey | yes it does | 05:50 |
| Roey | it explains it on the page | 05:50 |
| crimsun | ok, and how critical would _you_ rate the fix? | 05:50 |
| crimsun | be realistic. | 05:50 |
| crimsun | cos I'm up to my neck in trying to fix universe packages (at the moment, the slew of pike7.* brokenness and two packages that require pike7.4) | 05:51 |
| crimsun | but if it's a _critical_ fix, I'll look and try and generate a dpatch | 05:51 |
| crimsun | nvidia's not an issue; you can use the latest drivers by either using Sid's nvidia-kernel-source or by invoking their installer | 05:53 |
| Roey | crimsun: I cannot use my tablet. | 05:53 |
| Roey | crimsun: it's not like nvidia where I *prefer* the newer driver but I can live with the current one. | 05:53 |
| Roey | crimsun: with the tablet it's like.. it just doesn't respond. | 05:53 |
| Roey | crimsun: wait a sec.. you're an ubuntu developer??? | 05:54 |
| === Roey realizes only now... | ||
| crimsun | ok, but you can live without your tablet, correct? What I'm trying to determine is if it warrants a grave enough fix due your not being able to use any other input device in the X Window System | 05:54 |
| crimsun | no, I'm not; I'm a universe maintainer; I just happen to be on the kernel team as well | 05:54 |
| Roey | crimsun: ah :) | 05:56 |
| crimsun | in other words, if the current wacom code in the Hoary kernel prevents you from using your mouse and/or your keyboard in X.Org, then I think I can justifiably generate a patch to submit | 05:56 |
| Roey | crimsun: it's the other way around; the current wacom code in the Hoary kernel prevents me from using my tablet in xorg. | 05:56 |
| crimsun | but your mouse still works? | 05:56 |
| Roey | oh, sure. | 05:57 |
| Roey | aye it does. | 05:57 |
| Roey | it's an mx1000 mouse. | 05:57 |
| Roey | http://seclists.org/lists/linux-kernel/2005/Mar/2151.html | 05:58 |
| crimsun | ok. Well, if your mouse still works, I wouldn't rate this issue release-critical, but I will go ahead and generate a dpatch, then build a standard Ubuntu kernel for you with the patch applied (will take ~2 hours) | 05:58 |
| Roey | I'm having trouble with that, too | 05:58 |
| Roey | oh, thank you so much Dan! | 05:58 |
| Roey | jeez | 05:58 |
| Roey | wow | 05:58 |
| Roey | thanks :) | 05:58 |
| Roey | crimsun: do you know, btw,what's the status of konq-plugins package? | 05:58 |
| crimsun | now whether it actually ends up in the kernel shipped with Hoary is not my call. | 05:58 |
| crimsun | (I'll have to pass that buck to fabbione.) | 05:59 |
| crimsun | No, unfortunately I do not know RE: konq-plugins | 05:59 |
| crimsun | Roey: ok, I don't think the mx1000 issue is critical enough to warrant a patch this close to Hoary's release, but keep at it for Bendy | 06:01 |
| crimsun | err | 06:01 |
| crimsun | Breezy | 06:01 |
| crimsun | too many 'b's and 'e's | 06:01 |
| Roey | :) | 06:01 |
| Roey | when is that, six months after hoary? | 06:01 |
| crimsun | yes, 6 months from 6 April, 2005 | 06:01 |
| Roey | (isn't one goal of ubuntu to have regular release cycles (as opposed to Debian? :)) | 06:02 |
| Roey | ok | 06:02 |
| crimsun | of course you will be able to track Breezy just as you do Sid | 06:02 |
| crimsun | just as you're able to track Hoary now | 06:02 |
| Roey | ok | 06:02 |
| crimsun | hmm | 06:04 |
| crimsun | Roey: have you tried wacom-kernel-source from universe? | 06:04 |
| Roey | oh | 06:05 |
| Roey | hmm | 06:05 |
| Roey | neat! | 06:05 |
| Roey | lemme see what the revision is on that. | 06:05 |
| crimsun | 0.6.6-4 is what Hoary has | 06:05 |
| Roey | Candidate: 0.6.6-4 | 06:05 |
| crimsun | (Sid's only several revisions more recent, 0.6.6-7) | 06:06 |
| Roey | linuxwacom-0.6.6.tar.bz2 - 2004-12-01 Build .ko locally and support kernel 2.6.10. | 06:06 |
| Roey | so.. | 06:06 |
| Roey | that doesn't support 2.6.10 | 06:06 |
| crimsun | eh? | 06:07 |
| Roey | version .6.6-4 does not | 06:07 |
| Roey | er | 06:07 |
| Roey | I see it does. | 06:07 |
| Roey | my bad!!!!! | 06:07 |
| Roey | wow, daniel, you're awesome | 06:07 |
| Roey | hmm. | 06:07 |
| Roey | can you show me how to customize my kernel with this (including grabbing the kernel sources, etc.)? | 06:07 |
| crimsun | what distro are you currently running? | 06:08 |
| Roey | ubuntu + kubuntu package | 06:08 |
| Roey | hoary. | 06:08 |
| Roey | crimsun: (I switched over) | 06:08 |
| crimsun | sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) fakeroot wacom-kernel-source | 06:08 |
| crimsun | let's shift this back to #ubuntu, if you don't mind | 06:09 |
| Roey | sure, ok | 06:10 |
| crimsun | thanks | 06:10 |
| fabbione | morning everyone | 06:16 |
| Roey | hey fabbione | 06:17 |
| Roey | you got a new customer | 06:17 |
| crimsun | morning fabbione | 06:18 |
| fabbione | who ? | 06:19 |
| crimsun | fabbione: (I think he's referring to himself) | 06:20 |
| fabbione | ahhhh | 06:21 |
| === fabbione just woke up | ||
| Roey | =) | 06:22 |
| Roey | crimsun, see the #ubuntu stuff :) | 06:23 |
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| Roey | heloo00oo | 09:03 |
| Roey | anyone here? | 09:03 |
| Roey | :) | 09:03 |
| calc | no | 09:05 |
| Roey | ok | 09:07 |
| Roey | calc: see this: | 09:07 |
| Roey | I downloaded this wacom module for kernel 2.6.10 (ubuntu) | 09:07 |
| Roey | and I enabled hid | 09:07 |
| Roey | ("--enable-hid") | 09:07 |
| Roey | and I get errors: | 09:07 |
| Roey | http://rafb.net/paste/results/20pSrR22.html | 09:07 |
| Roey | and I'm wondering where this error is -- in the module or the kernel. | 09:08 |
| calc | <- is not here | 09:08 |
| Roey | I need to be able to compile wacom's replacement hid | 09:08 |
| Roey | ah | 09:08 |
| Roey | ok | 09:08 |
| Roey | fabbione: see this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/20pSrR22.html | 09:08 |
| Roey | That's after I did: apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) fakeroot wacom-kernel-source | 09:08 |
| Roey | and then I went into /usr/src/modules/wacom, | 09:09 |
| Roey | and edited 'rules' to --enable-hid in the 'kdist' stanza | 09:09 |
| Roey | then when I compiled it with this commmand: | 09:10 |
| Roey | cd /usr/src/modules/wacom && fakeroot ./debian/rules kdist KVERS=$(uname -r) KSRC=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/ | 09:10 |
| Roey | I get this output: | 09:10 |
| Roey | http://rafb.net/paste/results/20pSrR22.html | 09:10 |
| Roey | (the one I gave you above) | 09:10 |
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| fabbione | Roey: i don't want to sound unpolite, but this chan is to discuss the kernel development. General help should go to #ubuntu please. | 05:05 |
| fabbione | at 15 days from release, i really don't have to see external modules.. sorry | 05:06 |
| fabbione | + it's eastern :-) | 05:07 |
| === fabbione doesn't always nerd on holidays ;) | ||
| Seveas | you don't? | 05:43 |
| Seveas | shocking :) | 05:43 |
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| zul | hey | 05:56 |
| jbailey | Heya Chuck | 05:57 |
| zul | hey jbailey how is it going? | 05:57 |
| jbailey | Good, a bit tired. I've mostly shaken off the hang over. | 05:57 |
| zul | heh | 05:57 |
| jbailey | I'm teaching a course this evening and should probably prep for it. | 05:57 |
| zul | you arent suppose to drink on good friday :) | 05:58 |
| kylem | says who? doesn't say that in the bible... | 05:58 |
| kylem | :P | 05:58 |
| zul | hmm...wifey lied to me then | 05:58 |
| kylem | it's one of those pope-things. | 06:00 |
| zul | ah ok | 06:00 |
| kylem | afaik at least. | 06:00 |
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| Roey | hi | 06:20 |
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