=== lamont__r [~lamont@phantom.acmeps.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:13] Min drive buffer fill was 38% === lamont wipes his brow === mjg59 [mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:47] overburn.. [02:47] er, burnfree [02:47] that's the one [03:55] well, was cd-rw, so not soo bad... === Roey [~Roey@pcp04370251pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:28] oh [04:28] hello [04:28] this place exists? [04:28] I see the usual suspects [04:28] calc, crimsun [04:29] ok [04:29] so two issues: [04:29] 1) I try to boot, say, my own custom kernel with raid1 built in: [04:29] http://rafb.net/paste/results/2qaAZM82.html [04:29] so on that one the problem is the device nodes aren't being created in /dev [04:29] hmm [04:29] 22:27:36 ~ ls /dev/md* [04:29] /dev/md0 /dev/md1 /dev/md2 [04:29] but I hit ctrl-d twice and it boots up fine [04:29] mounts the stuff it needs, etc. [04:29] there. [04:30] alright online mugshots [04:34] oh? :) [04:39] oh [04:39] god damn it [04:39] right I forgot... [04:39] you need a patched cramfs to load initrd's for custom kernels. [04:40] god damn it! [04:40] and LILO doesn't work... [04:40] oof [04:40] you love it. Admit it, you love the pain. === Roey bows his head [04:40] yes [04:40] I admit it [04:40] I could be content with Kubuntu [04:40] but I admit it, I need to push the envelop [04:40] *envelope [04:40] actually [04:41] I need to (1) get rid of that error on startup, [04:41] and (2) install the latest nvidia drivers, [04:41] and (3) patch the kernel so that it properly supports nvidia. [04:41] er [04:41] nvidia and WACOM TABLETS. [05:04] Roey: got a dos boot disk? Boot onto it, FDISK all partitions away, then at the prompt type "fdisk /mbr" no quotes. Then try again. Partition table might be weirded out [05:04] is this guy legitimately helping?? [05:13] oh hell im going to bed...night [05:16] heh [05:16] #ubuntu is /no/ help [05:16] every [05:16] **ever**. [05:40] Roey: your problem is rather advanced. I doubt many people, if any, will be able to help you sort it. [05:40] Roey: maybe jasonbox? [05:41] hmm [05:41] dunno? [05:41] at this point, fine [05:41] I'll give in to grub [05:41] and official Ubuntu kernels. [05:41] I give up. [05:42] I just want to know if I can compile my own kernel (following The Debian Way) and have it running. [05:42] I'm absolutely certain you can given you don't change anything [05:43] like what? [05:43] I want to apply the latest nvidia and wacom patches [05:43] that's all [05:46] nvidia you'd do externally [05:46] so you don't need to recompile [05:46] wacom, don't know much about. Got a url? [05:46] http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/debwacom [05:47] does the version in the Ubuntu kernel not work? [05:47] nope [05:47] see what happens is that: [05:47] Xorg, if you load mousedev, [05:48] steals control of the cursor/eraser/stylus devices from the kernel wacom driver. [05:48] the patched wacom module detects when this happens [05:48] and prevents it [05:48] er [05:48] or relinquishes control to Xorg [05:48] instead of trying to manage it itself. [05:48] s/it/them [05:49] ok, and this allows the cursor/eraser/stylus devices to work alongside the mouse and any other input devices? [05:50] yes [05:50] yes it does [05:50] it explains it on the page [05:50] ok, and how critical would _you_ rate the fix? [05:50] be realistic. [05:51] cos I'm up to my neck in trying to fix universe packages (at the moment, the slew of pike7.* brokenness and two packages that require pike7.4) [05:51] but if it's a _critical_ fix, I'll look and try and generate a dpatch [05:53] nvidia's not an issue; you can use the latest drivers by either using Sid's nvidia-kernel-source or by invoking their installer [05:53] crimsun: I cannot use my tablet. [05:53] crimsun: it's not like nvidia where I *prefer* the newer driver but I can live with the current one. [05:53] crimsun: with the tablet it's like.. it just doesn't respond. [05:54] crimsun: wait a sec.. you're an ubuntu developer??? === Roey realizes only now... [05:54] ok, but you can live without your tablet, correct? What I'm trying to determine is if it warrants a grave enough fix due your not being able to use any other input device in the X Window System [05:54] no, I'm not; I'm a universe maintainer; I just happen to be on the kernel team as well [05:56] crimsun: ah :) [05:56] in other words, if the current wacom code in the Hoary kernel prevents you from using your mouse and/or your keyboard in X.Org, then I think I can justifiably generate a patch to submit [05:56] crimsun: it's the other way around; the current wacom code in the Hoary kernel prevents me from using my tablet in xorg. [05:56] but your mouse still works? [05:57] oh, sure. [05:57] aye it does. [05:57] it's an mx1000 mouse. [05:58] http://seclists.org/lists/linux-kernel/2005/Mar/2151.html [05:58] ok. Well, if your mouse still works, I wouldn't rate this issue release-critical, but I will go ahead and generate a dpatch, then build a standard Ubuntu kernel for you with the patch applied (will take ~2 hours) [05:58] I'm having trouble with that, too [05:58] oh, thank you so much Dan! [05:58] jeez [05:58] wow [05:58] thanks :) [05:58] crimsun: do you know, btw,what's the status of konq-plugins package? [05:58] now whether it actually ends up in the kernel shipped with Hoary is not my call. [05:59] (I'll have to pass that buck to fabbione.) [05:59] No, unfortunately I do not know RE: konq-plugins [06:01] Roey: ok, I don't think the mx1000 issue is critical enough to warrant a patch this close to Hoary's release, but keep at it for Bendy [06:01] err [06:01] Breezy [06:01] too many 'b's and 'e's [06:01] :) [06:01] when is that, six months after hoary? [06:01] yes, 6 months from 6 April, 2005 [06:02] (isn't one goal of ubuntu to have regular release cycles (as opposed to Debian? :)) [06:02] ok [06:02] of course you will be able to track Breezy just as you do Sid [06:02] just as you're able to track Hoary now [06:02] ok [06:04] hmm [06:04] Roey: have you tried wacom-kernel-source from universe? [06:05] oh [06:05] hmm [06:05] neat! [06:05] lemme see what the revision is on that. [06:05] 0.6.6-4 is what Hoary has [06:05] Candidate: 0.6.6-4 [06:06] (Sid's only several revisions more recent, 0.6.6-7) [06:06] linuxwacom-0.6.6.tar.bz2 - 2004-12-01 Build .ko locally and support kernel 2.6.10. [06:06] so.. [06:06] that doesn't support 2.6.10 [06:07] eh? [06:07] version .6.6-4 does not [06:07] er [06:07] I see it does. [06:07] my bad!!!!! [06:07] wow, daniel, you're awesome [06:07] hmm. [06:07] can you show me how to customize my kernel with this (including grabbing the kernel sources, etc.)? [06:08] what distro are you currently running? [06:08] ubuntu + kubuntu package [06:08] hoary. [06:08] crimsun: (I switched over) [06:08] sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) fakeroot wacom-kernel-source [06:09] let's shift this back to #ubuntu, if you don't mind [06:10] sure, ok [06:10] thanks [06:16] morning everyone [06:17] hey fabbione [06:17] you got a new customer [06:18] morning fabbione [06:19] who ? [06:20] fabbione: (I think he's referring to himself) [06:21] ahhhh === fabbione just woke up [06:22] =) [06:23] crimsun, see the #ubuntu stuff :) === Roey [~Roey@pcp04370251pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:03] heloo00oo [09:03] anyone here? [09:03] :) [09:05] no [09:07] ok [09:07] calc: see this: [09:07] I downloaded this wacom module for kernel 2.6.10 (ubuntu) [09:07] and I enabled hid [09:07] ("--enable-hid") [09:07] and I get errors: [09:07] http://rafb.net/paste/results/20pSrR22.html [09:08] and I'm wondering where this error is -- in the module or the kernel. [09:08] <- is not here [09:08] I need to be able to compile wacom's replacement hid [09:08] ah [09:08] ok [09:08] fabbione: see this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/20pSrR22.html [09:08] That's after I did: apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) fakeroot wacom-kernel-source [09:09] and then I went into /usr/src/modules/wacom, [09:09] and edited 'rules' to --enable-hid in the 'kdist' stanza [09:10] then when I compiled it with this commmand: [09:10] cd /usr/src/modules/wacom && fakeroot ./debian/rules kdist KVERS=$(uname -r) KSRC=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/ [09:10] I get this output: [09:10] http://rafb.net/paste/results/20pSrR22.html [09:10] (the one I gave you above) === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:05] Roey: i don't want to sound unpolite, but this chan is to discuss the kernel development. General help should go to #ubuntu please. [05:06] at 15 days from release, i really don't have to see external modules.. sorry [05:07] + it's eastern :-) === fabbione doesn't always nerd on holidays ;) [05:43] you don't? [05:43] shocking :) === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:56] hey [05:57] Heya Chuck [05:57] hey jbailey how is it going? [05:57] Good, a bit tired. I've mostly shaken off the hang over. [05:57] heh [05:57] I'm teaching a course this evening and should probably prep for it. [05:58] you arent suppose to drink on good friday :) [05:58] says who? doesn't say that in the bible... [05:58] :P [05:58] hmm...wifey lied to me then [06:00] it's one of those pope-things. [06:00] ah ok [06:00] afaik at least. === Roey [~Roey@pcp04370251pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:20] hi === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === kylem [~kyle@70.28.1.105] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === i3dmaster [~i3dmaster@c-67-177-236-7.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dilinger finally gets around to subscribing kernel-team and kernel-bugs to gmane