[02:13] <lamont> Min drive buffer fill was 38%
[02:47] <dilinger> overburn..
[02:47] <dilinger> er, burnfree
[02:47] <dilinger> that's the one
[03:55] <lamont> well, was cd-rw, so not soo bad...
[04:28] <Roey> oh
[04:28] <Roey> hello
[04:28] <Roey> this place exists?
[04:28] <Roey> I see the usual suspects
[04:28] <Roey> calc, crimsun
 ok
 so two issues:
 1) I try to boot, say, my own custom kernel with raid1 built in:
 http://rafb.net/paste/results/2qaAZM82.html
 so on that one the problem is the device nodes aren't being created in /dev
 hmm
 22:27:36 ~ ls /dev/md*
 /dev/md0  /dev/md1  /dev/md2
 but I hit ctrl-d twice and it boots up fine
 mounts the stuff it needs, etc.
[04:29] <Roey> there.
[04:30] <zul> alright online mugshots
[04:34] <Roey> oh? :)
[04:39] <Roey> oh
[04:39] <Roey> god damn it
[04:39] <Roey> right I forgot...
[04:39] <Roey> you need a patched cramfs to load initrd's for custom kernels.
[04:40] <Roey> god damn it!
[04:40] <Roey> and LILO doesn't work...
[04:40] <Roey> oof
[04:40] <crimsun> you love it.  Admit it, you love the pain.
[04:40] <Roey> yes
[04:40] <Roey> I admit it
[04:40] <Roey> I could be content with Kubuntu
[04:40] <Roey> but I admit it, I need to push the envelop
[04:40] <Roey> *envelope
[04:40] <Roey> actually
[04:41] <Roey> I need to (1) get rid of that error on startup,
[04:41] <Roey> and (2) install the latest nvidia drivers, 
[04:41] <Roey> and (3) patch the kernel so that it properly supports nvidia.
[04:41] <Roey> er
[04:41] <Roey> nvidia and WACOM TABLETS.
 Roey: got a dos boot disk?  Boot onto it, FDISK all partitions away, then at the prompt type "fdisk /mbr" no quotes.  Then try again.  Partition table might be weirded out
[05:04] <Roey> is this guy legitimately helping??
[05:13] <zul> oh hell im going to bed...night
[05:16] <Roey> heh
[05:16] <Roey> #ubuntu is /no/ help
[05:16] <Roey> every
[05:16] <Roey> **ever**.
[05:40] <crimsun> Roey: your problem is rather advanced.  I doubt many people, if any, will be able to help you sort it.
[05:40] <crimsun> Roey: maybe jasonbox?
[05:41] <Roey> hmm
[05:41] <Roey> dunno?
[05:41] <Roey> at this point, fine
[05:41] <Roey> I'll give in to grub
[05:41] <Roey> and official Ubuntu kernels.
[05:41] <Roey> I give up.
[05:42] <Roey> I just want to know if I can compile my own kernel (following The Debian Way) and have it running.
[05:42] <crimsun> I'm absolutely certain you can given you don't change anything
[05:43] <Roey> like what?
[05:43] <Roey> I want to apply the latest nvidia and wacom patches
[05:43] <Roey> that's all
[05:46] <crimsun> nvidia you'd do externally
[05:46] <crimsun> so you don't need to recompile
[05:46] <crimsun> wacom, don't know much about.  Got a url?
[05:46] <Roey> http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/debwacom
[05:47] <crimsun> does the version in the Ubuntu kernel not work?
[05:47] <Roey> nope
[05:47] <Roey> see what happens is that:
[05:47] <Roey> Xorg, if you load mousedev,
[05:48] <Roey> steals control of the cursor/eraser/stylus devices from the kernel wacom driver.
[05:48] <Roey> the patched wacom module detects when this happens
[05:48] <Roey> and prevents it
[05:48] <Roey> er
[05:48] <Roey> or relinquishes control to Xorg
[05:48] <Roey> instead of trying to manage it itself.
[05:48] <Roey> s/it/them
[05:49] <crimsun> ok, and this allows the cursor/eraser/stylus devices to work alongside the mouse and any other input devices?
[05:50] <Roey> yes
[05:50] <Roey> yes it does
[05:50] <Roey> it explains it on the page
[05:50] <crimsun> ok, and how critical would _you_ rate the fix?
[05:50] <crimsun> be realistic.
[05:51] <crimsun> cos I'm up to my neck in trying to fix universe packages (at the moment, the slew of pike7.* brokenness and two packages that require pike7.4)
[05:51] <crimsun> but if it's a _critical_ fix, I'll look and try and generate a dpatch
[05:53] <crimsun> nvidia's not an issue; you can use the latest drivers by either using Sid's nvidia-kernel-source or by invoking their installer
[05:53] <Roey> crimsun:  I cannot use my tablet.
[05:53] <Roey> crimsun:  it's not like nvidia where I *prefer* the newer driver but I can live with the current one.
[05:53] <Roey> crimsun:  with the tablet it's like.. it just doesn't respond.
[05:54] <Roey> crimsun:  wait a sec.. you're an ubuntu developer???
[05:54] <crimsun> ok, but you can live without your tablet, correct?  What I'm trying to determine is if it warrants a grave enough fix due your not being able to use any other input device in the X Window System
[05:54] <crimsun> no, I'm not; I'm a universe maintainer; I just happen to be on the kernel team as well
[05:56] <Roey> crimsun:  ah :)
[05:56] <crimsun> in other words, if the current wacom code in the Hoary kernel prevents you from using your mouse and/or your keyboard in X.Org, then I think I can justifiably generate a patch to submit
[05:56] <Roey> crimsun:  it's the other way around; the current wacom code in the Hoary kernel prevents me from using my tablet in xorg.
[05:56] <crimsun> but your mouse still works?
[05:57] <Roey> oh, sure.
[05:57] <Roey> aye it does.
[05:57] <Roey> it's an mx1000 mouse.
[05:58] <Roey> http://seclists.org/lists/linux-kernel/2005/Mar/2151.html
[05:58] <crimsun> ok.  Well, if your mouse still works, I wouldn't rate this issue release-critical, but I will go ahead and generate a dpatch, then build a standard Ubuntu kernel for you with the patch applied (will take ~2 hours)
[05:58] <Roey> I'm having trouble with that, too
[05:58] <Roey> oh, thank you so much Dan!
[05:58] <Roey> jeez
[05:58] <Roey> wow
[05:58] <Roey> thanks :)
[05:58] <Roey> crimsun:  do you know, btw,what's the status of konq-plugins package?
[05:58] <crimsun> now whether it actually ends up in the kernel shipped with Hoary is not my call.
[05:59] <crimsun> (I'll have to pass that buck to fabbione.)
[05:59] <crimsun> No, unfortunately I do not know RE: konq-plugins
[06:01] <crimsun> Roey: ok, I don't think the mx1000 issue is critical enough to warrant a patch this close to Hoary's release, but keep at it for Bendy
[06:01] <crimsun> err
[06:01] <crimsun> Breezy
[06:01] <crimsun> too many 'b's and 'e's
[06:01] <Roey> :)
[06:01] <Roey> when is that, six months after hoary?
[06:01] <crimsun> yes, 6 months from 6 April, 2005
[06:02] <Roey> (isn't one goal of ubuntu to have regular release cycles (as opposed to Debian? :))
[06:02] <Roey> ok
[06:02] <crimsun> of course you will be able to track Breezy just as you do Sid
[06:02] <crimsun> just as you're able to track Hoary now
[06:02] <Roey> ok
[06:04] <crimsun> hmm
[06:04] <crimsun> Roey: have you tried wacom-kernel-source from universe?
[06:05] <Roey> oh
[06:05] <Roey> hmm
[06:05] <Roey> neat!
[06:05] <Roey> lemme see what the revision is on that.
[06:05] <crimsun> 0.6.6-4 is what Hoary has
[06:05] <Roey>   Candidate: 0.6.6-4
[06:06] <crimsun> (Sid's only several revisions more recent, 0.6.6-7)
[06:06] <Roey> linuxwacom-0.6.6.tar.bz2  -  2004-12-01  Build .ko locally and support kernel 2.6.10.
[06:06] <Roey> so..
[06:06] <Roey> that doesn't support 2.6.10
[06:07] <crimsun> eh?
[06:07] <Roey> version .6.6-4 does not 
[06:07] <Roey> er
[06:07] <Roey> I see it does.
[06:07] <Roey> my bad!!!!!
[06:07] <Roey> wow, daniel, you're awesome
[06:07] <Roey> hmm.
[06:07] <Roey> can you show me how to customize my kernel with this (including grabbing the kernel sources, etc.)?
[06:08] <crimsun> what distro are you currently running?
[06:08] <Roey> ubuntu + kubuntu package
[06:08] <Roey> hoary.
[06:08] <Roey> crimsun:  (I switched over)
[06:08] <crimsun> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) fakeroot wacom-kernel-source
[06:09] <crimsun> let's shift this back to #ubuntu, if you don't mind
[06:10] <Roey> sure, ok
[06:10] <crimsun> thanks
[06:16] <fabbione> morning everyone
[06:17] <Roey> hey fabbione 
[06:17] <Roey> you got a new customer
[06:18] <crimsun> morning fabbione 
[06:19] <fabbione> who ?
[06:20] <crimsun> fabbione: (I think he's referring to himself)
[06:21] <fabbione> ahhhh
[06:22] <Roey> =)
[06:23] <Roey> crimsun, see the #ubuntu stuff :)
[09:03] <Roey> heloo00oo
[09:03] <Roey> anyone here?
[09:03] <Roey> :)
[09:05] <calc> no
[09:07] <Roey> ok
[09:07] <Roey> calc: see this:
[09:07] <Roey> I downloaded this wacom module for kernel 2.6.10 (ubuntu)
[09:07] <Roey> and I enabled hid
[09:07] <Roey> ("--enable-hid")
[09:07] <Roey> and I get errors:
[09:07] <Roey> http://rafb.net/paste/results/20pSrR22.html
[09:08] <Roey> and I'm wondering where this error is -- in the module or the kernel.
[09:08] <calc> <- is not here
[09:08] <Roey> I need to be able to compile wacom's replacement hid
[09:08] <Roey> ah
[09:08] <Roey> ok
[09:08] <Roey> fabbione:  see this:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/20pSrR22.html
[09:08] <Roey> That's after I did: apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) fakeroot wacom-kernel-source
[09:09] <Roey> and then I went into /usr/src/modules/wacom,
[09:09] <Roey> and edited 'rules' to --enable-hid in the 'kdist' stanza 
[09:10] <Roey> then when I compiled it with this commmand:
[09:10] <Roey> cd /usr/src/modules/wacom && fakeroot ./debian/rules kdist KVERS=$(uname -r) KSRC=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/
[09:10] <Roey> I get this output:
[09:10] <Roey> http://rafb.net/paste/results/20pSrR22.html
[09:10] <Roey> (the one I gave you above)
[05:05] <fabbione> Roey: i don't want to sound unpolite, but this chan is to discuss the kernel development. General help should go to #ubuntu please.
[05:06] <fabbione> at 15 days from release, i really don't have to see external modules.. sorry
[05:07] <fabbione> + it's eastern :-)
[05:43] <Seveas> you don't?
[05:43] <Seveas> shocking :)
[05:56] <zul> hey
[05:57] <jbailey> Heya Chuck
[05:57] <zul> hey jbailey how is it going?
[05:57] <jbailey> Good, a bit tired.  I've mostly shaken off the hang over.
[05:57] <zul> heh
[05:57] <jbailey> I'm teaching a course this evening and should probably prep for it.
[05:58] <zul> you arent suppose to drink on good friday :)
[05:58] <kylem> says who? doesn't say that in the bible...
[05:58] <kylem> :P
[05:58] <zul> hmm...wifey lied to me then 
[06:00] <kylem> it's one of those pope-things.
[06:00] <zul> ah ok
[06:00] <kylem> afaik at least.
[06:20] <Roey> hi