| kylem | dilinger, thanks. | 12:33 |
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| mjg59 | dsafdsafdsarewaoiufdsdsoiufdslk | 01:10 |
| kylem | mr. garrett? | 01:10 |
| mjg59 | I have what seems to be a moderately critical ACPI patch sitting here | 01:10 |
| mjg59 | It seems that Windows enables GPEs before calling the _WAK method | 01:12 |
| mjg59 | And, uh, Linux currently doesn;t. | 01:12 |
| kylem | hmm? | 01:12 |
| mjg59 | So if a _WAK method does anything that triggers an event, the event handler never gets called | 01:13 |
| mjg59 | And it all goes pear shaped | 01:13 |
| kylem | yuck. | 01:13 |
| mjg59 | Jesus. It actually seems to fix it, too. | 01:17 |
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| schweeb | I was told I should talk to you guys about packages that have kernel dependencies in universe that won't build... such as user-mode-linux, which requires kernel-source-2.4.26 | 01:40 |
| schweeb | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/u/user-mode-linux/2.4.26-3um-1/user-mode-linux_2.4.26-3um-1_20050324-0640-i386-failed | 01:42 |
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| zul | mjg59: http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4390 | 04:05 |
| zul | then there is a whole thread about powersaving and usb devices on linux-usb-devel | 04:06 |
| dilinger | as soon as someone sends somethign to kernel-team, the gmane newsgroup should get created | 06:16 |
| dilinger | gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.kernel.{bugs,general} | 06:18 |
| fabbione | morning | 06:21 |
| dilinger | evening | 06:22 |
| fabbione | mjg59: thanks for the patch but that will be for breezy | 06:22 |
| fabbione | no more patch for hoary | 06:22 |
| fabbione | dilinger: what's up? | 06:24 |
| dilinger | not much. just thinking about sarge preparations | 06:32 |
| fabbione | i started squashing xen into the kernel | 06:34 |
| fabbione | the patch is not too bad, but it has some duplicate files = extremely annoying | 06:34 |
| fabbione | + it needs me to add the patch per subarch support | 06:35 |
| fabbione | btw.. how do you handle the kernel-patch package, given that you have general patches, patches per arch, and patches per subarch? | 06:35 |
| fabbione | do you create all of these patches? | 06:36 |
| fabbione | or just the general ones? | 06:36 |
| fabbione | because right now i create patches only per arch | 06:37 |
| fabbione | i still do not generate per subarch diffs | 06:37 |
| fabbione | i think that would give the same problem creating the patched kernel-source-2.6.X package... | 06:41 |
| fabbione | hmmmm | 06:41 |
| dilinger | sorry, roommate distracted me | 06:42 |
| fabbione | no problem :) | 06:42 |
| dilinger | i haven't had to deal w/ kernel-patch stuff for a while (w/ devmapper patches) | 06:42 |
| dilinger | or are you talking about kernel-patch-debian? | 06:43 |
| fabbione | that latter | 06:43 |
| fabbione | given that you have the three levels of patches | 06:43 |
| fabbione | which ones are reflected into kernel-patch-debian? | 06:43 |
| dilinger | the stuff in kernel-patch-debian is just stuff from kernel-source | 06:44 |
| dilinger | that's for all archs | 06:44 |
| fabbione | so you lose per arch and per subarch bits | 06:44 |
| === dilinger tries to find a per-arch kernel-patch | ||
| dilinger | ok, kernel-patch-2.6.8-hppa | 06:46 |
| dilinger | that still does it the old way | 06:46 |
| dilinger | that's a patch on top of kernel-patch-debian | 06:46 |
| dilinger | most archs just commit patches directly to kernel-source, though | 06:46 |
| dilinger | sparc, powerpc, i386, etc, all had their patches merged into k-s | 06:47 |
| fabbione | ok, so we handle the per arch in a better way :-) | 06:47 |
| fabbione | since for me it's a Package: any | 06:47 |
| fabbione | and i create the diff per arch | 06:47 |
| fabbione | hppa is part of it | 06:48 |
| fabbione | what about subarches? | 06:48 |
| fabbione | i know you support it | 06:48 |
| dilinger | yea, see, the problem w/ doing per-arch patches is, you get other patches that conflict | 06:48 |
| dilinger | i'm not aware of subarch patches | 06:48 |
| fabbione | dilinger: yes, and that's why by (our internal) policy the per arch patches must be applied only after the general patches | 06:49 |
| fabbione | and not mixed in the middle | 06:49 |
| dilinger | i mean other patches | 06:49 |
| dilinger | ie, kernel-patch-grsec, kernel-patch-devmapper, etc | 06:49 |
| dilinger | they must apply to kernel-patch-debian | 06:50 |
| fabbione | oh well, these are external patches anyway | 06:50 |
| dilinger | but if you throw misc arch-specific patches in there, it gets messy. might as well not bother packaging separate patches | 06:50 |
| fabbione | yes i see, but i am talking about only kernel-source here | 06:50 |
| fabbione | dilinger: that becomes kernel-patch-foo maintainer problem to get his patch properly integrated instead of maintaining externally | 06:51 |
| fabbione | external patches = crap | 06:51 |
| fabbione | imho | 06:51 |
| dilinger | that's cause you integrate external patches :p | 06:51 |
| dilinger | we try to do the opposite | 06:51 |
| dilinger | if they're not upstream, and they're not in the process of being fed upstream, we don't want them in kernel-source (and per-arch kernel packages) | 06:52 |
| fabbione | we both have valid points in that area | 06:52 |
| dilinger | otherwise, it becomes a PITA to support | 06:53 |
| fabbione | but using your approach, you correctly push the external patches responsability to the maintainer :-) | 06:53 |
| dilinger | yep | 06:53 |
| fabbione | so if you apply a persubarch/perarch patch | 06:53 |
| dilinger | and that's why we want to make it as easy as possible for those maintainers | 06:53 |
| fabbione | it's not your problem to let -grsec to apply | 06:53 |
| dilinger | if they suddenly have to deal w/ making -grsec apply to not only kernel-patch-debian, but various other per-arch patches.. | 06:54 |
| dilinger | when i maintained kernel-patch-devmapper, hubert's application of a crippled dm patch was a constant source of hassle | 06:54 |
| dilinger | 'cause what he applied was only useful for basic lvm stuff. snapshotting, etc, didn't work | 06:55 |
| dilinger | so i ended up having to have two patches in kernel-patch-devmapper; one for vanilla kernels, and one for debian kernels | 06:55 |
| dilinger | that totally broke kernel-package, though | 06:55 |
| dilinger | people had to apply and unapply patches manually. it was a mess | 06:55 |
| dilinger | so, having a canonical source for those patches to apply against is valuable | 06:56 |
| fabbione | that's why i hate external patches :-) | 06:56 |
| dilinger | thanks for the bluetooth thing, btw | 06:57 |
| dilinger | did you ever find a fix for the BINDTODEVICE thing? | 06:57 |
| fabbione | nope | 06:58 |
| fabbione | i think there is none yet | 06:58 |
| dilinger | i took a look at netdev-2.6, but didn't see any fixes. i assume the problem is that the sk_dst_get stuff was returning the sk_dst_cache, which wasn't invalidated? | 06:59 |
| === dilinger looked at the code when i first got the email, but didn't feel like writing an app to see which codepath it actually went through | ||
| fabbione | our patch finder is pitti for this stuff | 07:00 |
| === dilinger nods | ||
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| fabbione | i need to remember to put all my clocks one hour in front | 07:11 |
| fabbione | this daylight saving shit is a royal pain | 07:11 |
| dilinger | hrm | 07:17 |
| dilinger | i'm gonna be on a plane then :( | 07:17 |
| fabbione | um? | 07:18 |
| fabbione | for the meeting? | 07:18 |
| fabbione | do you remember if cp -al creates softlinks or hardlinks? | 07:19 |
| dilinger | actually, no, i take that back. i'm getting back to albany around 2pm. so, i'll probably just be getting home | 07:19 |
| dilinger | soft | 07:20 |
| dilinger | iirc, of course ;) | 07:20 |
| fabbione | yeah i need to check that to implement per subarch patching | 07:20 |
| fabbione | it loks like hardlinks | 07:21 |
| dilinger | yea | 07:21 |
| dilinger | cp -as | 07:22 |
| dilinger | that'll do softlinks | 07:22 |
| fabbione | rock | 07:22 |
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| Roey | fabbione: hi | 07:54 |
| Roey | fabbione: do you maintain kubuntu kernel stuff? | 07:56 |
| Roey | I built the wacom-kernel-module | 07:57 |
| Roey | er | 07:57 |
| Roey | enabled the replacement hid, mousedev, evdev, usbmouse drivers in the module's debian/rules | 07:57 |
| Roey | but when I make a kubuntu package from the sources, it doesn't seem to contain these .ko's | 07:57 |
| Roey | crimsun and I have been looking at this for the past 45 mins. | 07:58 |
| Roey | this doesn't make -any- sense. | 07:58 |
| Roey | this wacom linux kernel package seems to be missing key functionality | 07:58 |
| crimsun | Roey: I haven't seen the build log from your last attempt | 07:58 |
| Roey | http://rafb.net/paste/results/8narM137.html | 07:59 |
| crimsun | Roey: err, that can't be your build log... | 08:02 |
| Roey | ah | 08:03 |
| Roey | right | 08:03 |
| Roey | that's the dpkg -L listing of that package | 08:03 |
| Roey | showing that only wacom.ko was installed. | 08:03 |
| crimsun | right, but to troubleshoot, we'd need your build log | 08:03 |
| Roey | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Dz7HbQ95.html | 08:05 |
| Roey | crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Dz7HbQ95.html | 08:05 |
| fabbione | Roey: the kernel for ubuntu and kubuntu is the same | 08:07 |
| fabbione | and i already gave you an answer yesterday about the driver | 08:07 |
| Roey | "No need to build input.o for kernel 2.6" -- so input.ko is not built. | 08:08 |
| Roey | fabbione: did you? | 08:08 |
| fabbione | <fabbione> Roey: i don't want to sound unpolite, but this chan is to discuss | 08:08 |
| fabbione | the kernel development. General help should go to #ubuntu please. | 08:08 |
| fabbione | <fabbione> at 15 days from release, i really don't have to see external | 08:08 |
| fabbione | modules.. sorry | 08:08 |
| fabbione | <fabbione> + it's eastern :-) | 08:08 |
| Roey | I meant ubuntu | 08:08 |
| Roey | not kubuntu | 08:08 |
| fabbione | it's the same kernel | 08:08 |
| Roey | kubuntu is just the kde libraries for ubuntu | 08:08 |
| fabbione | there are no differences | 08:08 |
| Roey | I know | 08:08 |
| Roey | I know | 08:08 |
| Roey | I'm talking about the ubuntu kernel. | 08:08 |
| fabbione | <Roey> fabbione: do you maintain kubuntu kernel stuff? | 08:09 |
| Roey | *ubuntu* then | 08:09 |
| Roey | sorry, my mistake | 08:09 |
| fabbione | i was also answering to this one :-) | 08:09 |
| crimsun | he's our team lead, roey. | 08:09 |
| Roey | understood! | 08:09 |
| Roey | fabbione: so I'll move to #ubuntu then | 08:09 |
| Roey | sorry | 08:09 |
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| fabbione | i hate Makefiles :-) | 09:09 |
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| bhna | usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 | 09:10 |
| bhna | sorry, dmsg after inserting an usb-stick. usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 | 09:11 |
| fabbione | bhna: known bug. it's already reported on bugzilla.u.c | 09:12 |
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| bhna | fabbione: tnx ;-) | 09:12 |
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| === lamont crawls into bed. g'night | ||
| fabbione | night lamont | 09:52 |
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| zul | morning | 01:38 |
| crimsun | morning | 01:41 |
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| zul | gday | 04:11 |
| zul | mmmm...ketchup | 04:22 |
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| Roey | hi | 06:45 |
| Roey | anyone here? | 06:45 |
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