| schweeb | yea, shit on apt-get.org is far from passing anything | 12:01 |
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| ogra | but we cant apply it to the apt-get.org pkgs.... | 12:02 |
| ogra | thats what makes me worried... | 12:02 |
| herve | that's what is unfair | 12:02 |
| dholbach | everyone: ping re: motu report -- please /query me a line or two about what you did and liked in the last month of motu work, kthxbye, love daniel | 12:02 |
| herve | those packages bypass quality requirements | 12:02 |
| ogra | you can put a package with a huge backdoor on apt-get.org.....and then access all the ubuntu systems using it | 12:02 |
| ogra | dholbach, tonight ? | 12:03 |
| dholbach | i will now ping each and every hour | 12:03 |
| dholbach | :-) | 12:03 |
| ogra | how many hours ? | 12:03 |
| dholbach | to make sure you don't feel left out afterwards | 12:03 |
| dholbach | until april, 1st | 12:04 |
| tritium | I'll be back later, and I'll start working on it, dholbach. | 12:04 |
| dholbach | that's when the report is due | 12:04 |
| ogra | ok | 12:04 |
| dholbach | tritium: bye michael... working on what? linitian? | 12:04 |
| ogra | so tomorrow is enough... | 12:04 |
| tritium | dholbach, motu report info for you | 12:04 |
| dholbach | tritium: thanks a lot | 12:04 |
| dholbach | tritium: just one or two lines | 12:05 |
| tritium | sure, no problem :) | 12:05 |
| tritium | see you all soon. | 12:05 |
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| schweeb | dammit, burned my food :-/ | 12:11 |
| ogra | dholbach, http://kitenet.net/~joey/debian/unstable/ | 12:12 |
| ogra | dholbach, fun | 12:12 |
| dholbach | yeah | 12:12 |
| dholbach | ;-) | 12:12 |
| ogra | Kamion will love it... | 12:12 |
| ogra | </irony> | 12:12 |
| herve | let me guess... | 12:12 |
| herve | importing apt-get.org also was Colin's idea? | 12:13 |
| ogra | there is also a experimental .... | 12:13 |
| ogra | luckily its empty currently | 12:13 |
| jani | herve, no I think sabdlf wants as many packages in ubuntu as possible | 12:14 |
| jani | but we're too few to review them all | 12:14 |
| ogra | yep | 12:14 |
| herve | jani, I know ;-) | 12:14 |
| schweeb | I think importing a few key packages of interest is a really good idea... after review... everything? no | 12:15 |
| schweeb | just feels wrong | 12:15 |
| herve | I asked for either users or those maintainers ask for the inclusion of such packages | 12:16 |
| jani | yes there should have been a voting or something going on on users list and get in what is demanded | 12:16 |
| jani | not every deb | 12:16 |
| herve | as ogra said, the motu all agree :-) | 12:19 |
| jani | evening all | 12:20 |
| herve | bye | 12:20 |
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| ogra | schweeb, sabdfls idea was that no user has to touch the sources.list, which is a really ingenious idea....but still... | 12:21 |
| schweeb | ogra: don't they have to go into the apt sources configurator to even get universe? | 12:22 |
| dholbach | schweeb: yes | 12:23 |
| ogra | schweeb, yop | 12:23 |
| herve | hmm | 12:23 |
| herve | I think synaptic has a checkbox | 12:23 |
| herve | but it's | 12:23 |
| herve | still | 12:23 |
| herve | it's consired to be the advanced user tool | 12:23 |
| schweeb | add another section in the repos then... "not-looked-at-by-motus-imported-from-apt-get.org" | 12:24 |
| schweeb | :P | 12:24 |
| herve | s/consired/considered | 12:24 |
| herve | I suggest "dont-even-whin-on-ubuntu-users" :-) | 12:24 |
| schweeb | hehe | 12:24 |
| dholbach | haha | 12:24 |
| herve | 3 level user support ;-) | 12:25 |
| schweeb | you've got supported, supported by MOTU, and "piss off" | 12:25 |
| herve | "cry to your mother" to stay polite! | 12:26 |
| herve | tomorrow I'll work on other thing | 12:27 |
| herve | those python transition are really pissing me off | 12:27 |
| ogra | herve, any idea about burn ? there is a weird message on ubuntu-users | 12:31 |
| herve | checking... | 12:31 |
| ogra | its not on the transition list and installs fine on my amd64 | 12:32 |
| herve | "error installing burn on hoary" ? | 12:32 |
| ogra | yop | 12:33 |
| ogra | but py2.3 is available...so it should get sucked in by the deps | 12:33 |
| herve | I'm working on it :-) | 12:33 |
| herve | "tar: burn/docs: implausibly old time stamp 1970-01-01 01:00:00" | 12:35 |
| herve | good... | 12:35 |
| ogra | heh | 12:40 |
| herve | i'm always impressed by those DD who used dh_make but but that's pretty all... | 12:41 |
| ogra | heh | 12:42 |
| ogra | be happy they didnt use debmake ... | 12:42 |
| herve | *fear* | 12:42 |
| ogra | *g* | 12:43 |
| herve | I'm seriously wondering which priority to give to a bug against python-iconvcodec | 12:43 |
| ogra | low ? | 12:43 |
| herve | it seems maintain by dh_make itself, not a human being | 12:43 |
| ogra | very_extra_low ? | 12:44 |
| ogra | below_ground ? | 12:44 |
| herve | I thought QA bugs would be serious | 12:44 |
| herve | burn is nice too | 12:45 |
| herve | "I use `pwd` because I don't know about $(CURDIR) | 12:45 |
| herve | " | 12:45 |
| ogra | lol | 12:47 |
| herve | okay | 12:49 |
| herve | I have burn ready to upload | 12:49 |
| ogra | yay | 12:49 |
| herve | I would have been usefull today finally | 12:50 |
| ogra | herve, youre always useful :) | 12:50 |
| ogra | not only today | 12:50 |
| herve | you kidding | 12:51 |
| herve | I broke sip4 and packages depending on it | 12:51 |
| herve | which means qt and kde python bindinds | 12:51 |
| ogra | and ? | 12:51 |
| herve | bindinggggs | 12:51 |
| herve | yes I know | 12:51 |
| herve | who cares about kde :-) | 12:51 |
| ogra | *g* | 12:51 |
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| herve | I'm desperately waiting on the DD to continue his work on new upstreams of those packages | 12:52 |
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| schweeb | ogra: heh, I should start in on this fifth of rum I have next to me ;) | 12:54 |
| herve | what? I said it wrong? :-) | 12:54 |
| herve | merlot? phew... | 12:54 |
| ogra | schweeb, prost :) | 12:54 |
| herve | I've got whisky and champagne here ;-) | 12:54 |
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| ogra | hehe | 12:55 |
| herve | can do | 12:55 |
| schweeb | lol | 12:55 |
| herve | I'm still thinking how to send them in Germany... | 12:55 |
| schweeb | when I'm not typing, I'm drinking :) | 12:55 |
| herve | (add "about" where appropriate) | 12:56 |
| schweeb | herve: in a big, ticking box that says "not a bomb" on it | 12:56 |
| herve | and "fragile" too :-) | 12:56 |
| dholbach | hmmmmmmmmmmmmm | 12:56 |
| dholbach | cookies | 12:56 |
| dholbach | wow, siretart had just fixed 3 packages | 12:56 |
| herve | dholbach, you'd prefer coconut or chocolate ones? | 12:57 |
| herve | or both! | 12:57 |
| dholbach | yeah both! :-) | 12:57 |
| herve | I think I'll start a business and sell them on open markets ;-) | 12:58 |
| herve | I buy home-made jam that way | 12:58 |
| herve | soooooo good | 12:58 |
| dholbach | herve: my mum provides me with it :-) | 12:59 |
| herve | you lucky | 12:59 |
| schweeb | how old are you, dholbach | 12:59 |
| dholbach | herve: i tell her to send you a package :-) | 12:59 |
| dholbach | schweeb: 26 | 01:00 |
| tritium | never too old for cookies :) | 01:00 |
| herve | I have to provide mine with this jam from grenoble :-) | 01:00 |
| dholbach | hihi | 01:00 |
| herve | yeah, sending a jar should be easier | 01:00 |
| schweeb | just send some vacuum packed cookes to him, heh | 01:01 |
| dholbach | herve: i wouldnt start a package with ONE jar - give me your adress and i'll see what i can do ;-) | 01:01 |
| herve | it's too late if you were not serious ;-) | 01:02 |
| dholbach | ok somebody give me an easy package to fix | 01:15 |
| dholbach | please | 01:15 |
| dholbach | :-) | 01:15 |
| dholbach | i need more of a success feeling before i go to bed | 01:16 |
| herve | "python-iconvcoded: unmaintained crap, fire that maintainer" | 01:16 |
| dholbach | :-) | 01:16 |
| herve | hmm... too aggressive I guess :-) | 01:16 |
| herve | dholbach, whoops | 01:16 |
| herve | I should have left you "burn" | 01:16 |
| herve | or you can pretend I haven't done anything and fix it yourself | 01:17 |
| dholbach | hrmmmm | 01:17 |
| dholbach | EDOESNTFEELRIGHT | 01:17 |
| === schweeb hasn't had the energy to fix anything yet | ||
| herve | in how many hou^Wdays you want to go to bed? | 01:18 |
| herve | because you could fix gcompris :-p | 01:19 |
| dholbach | ETOOMUCHPAIN | 01:19 |
| dholbach | ;-) | 01:19 |
| dholbach | wow... autogen needs assembler | 01:20 |
| dholbach | *shudder* | 01:20 |
| schweeb | eeek | 01:20 |
| schweeb | why | 01:20 |
| dholbach | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/a/autogen/1:5.6.5-1/autogen_1:5.6.5-1_20050319-0049-ia64-failed | 01:20 |
| herve | dholbach, I suggest you look at pidentd | 01:22 |
| herve | but this means asking lamont to kick it, roughly :-) | 01:22 |
| dholbach | hmm | 01:23 |
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| herve | are ia64 fixes really important if this arch is not official? | 01:25 |
| ogra | no | 01:26 |
| dholbach | lamont: scummvm build was cracked up by pkgstriptranslations on i386 | 01:27 |
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| dholbach | lamont: nevermind... you already gave it back | 01:29 |
| herve | why are kdebase and kdeaddons on the list? | 01:29 |
| herve | they're in main now | 01:29 |
| schweeb | put a note by em, irssi-text is in there too... | 01:30 |
| dholbach | herve: it's all my fault | 01:30 |
| ogra | irssi is fixed | 01:30 |
| herve | dholbach, ho no, don't say that | 01:30 |
| ogra | uploaded yesterday | 01:30 |
| dholbach | herve: messed up the lists | 01:30 |
| schweeb | ogra: what was the prob with irssi? | 01:31 |
| ogra | ia64 bug | 01:31 |
| schweeb | ah | 01:31 |
| dholbach | lamont: why have all of the builds powerpc-givenback? | 01:31 |
| herve | and anything related to mrproject should be dropped NOW | 01:32 |
| dholbach | gives me the feeling something wasnt right | 01:32 |
| herve | linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10_2.6.10.3-8_20050324-2326-ia64-failed | 01:34 |
| herve | I guess it's not our concern either? | 01:34 |
| dholbach | alright... looking after kmerlin | 01:34 |
| dholbach | broken kde stuff should be referred to as Krack, right? ;-) | 01:35 |
| schweeb | rofl | 01:35 |
| herve | :-) | 01:35 |
| schweeb | *cough* krap *cough* | 01:35 |
| herve | nautilus-media should be dropped too | 01:35 |
| dholbach | herve: mailed elmo about it | 01:35 |
| herve | lol | 01:35 |
| herve | pcmcia-modules-2.4.26-i386_3.2.5+1_20050324-0623-i386-failed | 01:36 |
| herve | who cares... | 01:36 |
| dholbach | chuck out | 01:36 |
| dholbach | :-) | 01:36 |
| schweeb | what should we do with these packages that need things like kernel-source-2.4.26 and such (user-mode-linux) | 01:37 |
| dholbach | tell #u-kernel | 01:37 |
| dholbach | zul wanted to have a look at those | 01:37 |
| schweeb | just inform them about any package that requires a kernel-source package? | 01:38 |
| dholbach | any kernel crack | 01:39 |
| schweeb | okay | 01:39 |
| herve | I wonder how many times you said "crack" today -:) | 01:40 |
| dholbach | hehe | 01:40 |
| tritium | be back later | 01:40 |
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| dholbach | too often | 01:40 |
| schweeb | I could grep logs :P | 01:41 |
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| herve | m2crypto in the archive \o/ | 01:41 |
| dholbach | yeah | 01:42 |
| herve | I can go to sleep with the mind in peace :-) | 01:44 |
| herve | good night all | 01:44 |
| dholbach | i'm about to go to bed too | 01:48 |
| dholbach | kmerlin seems to build just fine :-) | 01:48 |
| === ogra watches battlestar galactica before bed...and probably im juli afterwards | ||
| dholbach | jaaaaaaaaa | 01:49 |
| dholbach | "IM JULI" | 01:49 |
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| schweeb | ogra: best scifi show ever | 01:51 |
| ogra | schweeb, its the film :) | 01:52 |
| ogra | s/film/movie | 01:52 |
| schweeb | miniseries then ;) | 01:52 |
| ogra | yeah | 01:53 |
| schweeb | all the same to me, it's all good | 01:53 |
| schweeb | when season 2's out I'll be much happier :) | 01:55 |
| ogra | heh | 01:55 |
| dholbach | kmerlin fixed and uploaded | 03:02 |
| dholbach | have a good night everyone | 03:02 |
| schweeb | night | 03:02 |
| crimsun | night dholbach | 03:03 |
| dholbach | if tritium turns up again: tell him to look if those libs are really needed (i doubt it) and he should look how mlview handles it in debian/rules | 03:03 |
| crimsun | check. | 03:03 |
| dholbach | bye daniel | 03:03 |
| ogra | night dholbach | 03:04 |
| dholbach | bye oliver | 03:04 |
| schweeb | w00t, elmo put gsf-sharp through | 03:05 |
| crimsun | evening ogra, schweeb | 03:06 |
| schweeb | evenin | 03:06 |
| ogra | hi crimsun | 03:06 |
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| crimsun | Riddell: ping | 06:14 |
| crimsun | dts in #ubuntu is having problems upgrading python-kde3 (due to it not having been rebuilt for python2.4) | 06:18 |
| crimsun | if it's ok, I'll go ahead and do the transition, but I need to check with the kubuntu folks first, I presume | 06:19 |
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| crimsun | morning, tritium | 07:26 |
| tritium | morning, crimsun. How are you | 07:26 |
| tritium | ? | 07:26 |
| crimsun | not too bad, listening to Kenny Garrett (Standard of Language) and getting ready to do more pike work. Yourself? | 07:27 |
| tritium | I'm fine, thanks. Going to read some papers and perhaps try to pick something off the priority list and see if I can do anything with it ;) | 07:28 |
| crimsun | =) | 07:29 |
| tritium | I recorded my wife singing, and she's having a blast with audacity now :) | 07:31 |
| crimsun | great :) | 07:32 |
| tritium | It's fun seeing her pick up linux so well. She uses it full time now. | 07:33 |
| schweeb | nice | 07:34 |
| === schweeb plans on converting the parents | ||
| tritium | hey schweeb :) | 07:34 |
| schweeb | what up tritium | 07:34 |
| tritium | not much. you? | 07:34 |
| schweeb | thinkin about fixin libgdiplus and user-mode-linux | 07:35 |
| schweeb | heh | 07:35 |
| tritium | nice | 07:35 |
| schweeb | although I either gotta get the kernel guys to pkg 2.4.26's source, or I gotta upgrade u-m-l's version | 07:37 |
| crimsun | it'll be easier to simply upgrade it in Breezy | 07:37 |
| crimsun | for Hoary, perhaps bandaid it so it builds | 07:38 |
| Burgundavia | just looking at torcs | 07:38 |
| schweeb | bandaiding it so it builds needs kernel-source :) | 07:38 |
| Burgundavia | it builds on ia64 | 07:38 |
| Burgundavia | but nothing else | 07:38 |
| schweeb | so I gotta bump it to .27 | 07:38 |
| schweeb | in Breezy, I'll upload a 2.6 kernel | 07:39 |
| schweeb | as I use u-m-l a decent bit | 07:39 |
| crimsun | schweeb: rather, have it check for _a_ kernel source, not kernel-source-foo | 07:40 |
| schweeb | er, it's rather version sensitive | 07:41 |
| crimsun | oh, which version of u-m-l? | 07:41 |
| schweeb | it patches the kernel, then builds from the uml arch | 07:41 |
| crimsun | right, make arch=um | 07:41 |
| schweeb | in universe right now it's 2.4.26 | 07:42 |
| schweeb | no 2.4.26 source... got .25 and .27 | 07:42 |
| crimsun | hmm, uml is in 2.6, though. | 07:42 |
| schweeb | still needs patches | 07:42 |
| schweeb | just smaller ones :) | 07:42 |
| crimsun | gah | 07:43 |
| crimsun | that way insanity lies | 07:43 |
| schweeb | I'm IRCing from a UML right now | 07:43 |
| schweeb | heh | 07:43 |
| crimsun | yeah, I used uml a bit a while ago | 07:43 |
| schweeb | although, I could harass mdz about it, it is his package :) | 07:44 |
| crimsun | true :) | 07:45 |
| schweeb | bugger | 07:50 |
| schweeb | I'd have to fix kernel-patch-uml too | 07:50 |
| tritium | crimsun, feel like helping ells with his sound problem :D ? | 07:51 |
| schweeb | although I could hack it to work w/o it :) | 07:51 |
| crimsun | tritium: lemme read scrollback | 07:52 |
| tritium | crimsun, thanks | 07:52 |
| tritium | ogra, you up? | 08:54 |
| tritium | lamont, can you get ops in #ubuntu (if you're up)? | 08:54 |
| Burgundavia | we got any aussie admins? | 08:55 |
| Burgundavia | those are the people that would be up | 08:55 |
| Burgundavia | like jdub | 08:55 |
| tritium | I tried ogra and lamont | 08:56 |
| tritium | I see you tried jdub in -devel | 08:56 |
| Burgundavia | it is 6am in europe | 08:56 |
| Burgundavia | on Sunda | 08:57 |
| Burgundavia | y | 08:57 |
| lamont | sorry - sup? | 08:57 |
| Lathiat | 3pm/5pm in aussie so someone might be kicking around | 08:57 |
| Lathiat | daniels perhaps | 08:57 |
| tritium | lamont, we have a racist situation in #ubuntu | 08:57 |
| Lathiat | talk to an oper perhaps | 08:57 |
| lamont | who needs kick-banned? | 08:57 |
| tritium | it has gotten rather offensive at times | 08:57 |
| tritium | dcm | 08:57 |
| Lathiat | oh lamont is around | 08:57 |
| tritium | lamont, it's all in the logs if you need to see. Also, Burgundavia has some logs of his own | 08:59 |
| lamont | saw enough scrollback | 08:59 |
| crimsun | thanks. | 08:59 |
| Burgundavia | good | 08:59 |
| lamont | so does that deal with it? | 08:59 |
| crimsun | he'll probably be back :/ | 08:59 |
| Burgundavia | I have emailed mako | 09:00 |
| Burgundavia | with gpg signed logs | 09:00 |
| tritium | great | 09:00 |
| tritium | I'm glad the issue of ops has already come up in the CC meetings | 09:00 |
| tritium | Thanks for handling that lamont | 09:01 |
| Burgundavia | added thanks lamont | 09:01 |
| tritium | Burgundavia, crimsun, lamont: have a good night. See you tomorrow. | 09:14 |
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| dholbach | gooood morning | 10:10 |
| siretart | morning dholbach | 10:11 |
| crimsun | morning, dholbach | 10:11 |
| siretart | yeah! my first package has been ACCEPTED in debian! :) | 10:11 |
| crimsun | congrats! | 10:11 |
| dholbach | WOW | 10:11 |
| dholbach | grats! :-) | 10:11 |
| dholbach | hey you two | 10:11 |
| siretart | it's still in incoming, but has already been build for 5 architectures (not counting amd64 and i386) - buildds rock! | 10:13 |
| crimsun | indeed they do | 10:13 |
| dholbach | which one is it? | 10:13 |
| siretart | its pong2 | 10:14 |
| dholbach | oh cool | 10:15 |
| dholbach | we'll have it, when breezy opens | 10:15 |
| dholbach | *ROCK* | 10:15 |
| siretart | its a nice small game, classical pong in 3d (opengl). A friend of mine has done it as homework for a course, and started a project on berlios for it | 10:15 |
| dholbach | i packaged a friends tool too | 10:16 |
| siretart | pong2.berlios.de | 10:16 |
| dholbach | felt obliged to ;-) | 10:16 |
| dholbach | *screenshots* | 10:16 |
| dholbach | woah... these kind of games make me dizzy ;-) | 10:17 |
| siretart | definitly :) | 10:17 |
| Lathiat | ls | 10:17 |
| dholbach | anyway... as soon as we have it, i'll give it a spin | 10:17 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: : # . .. HOW-TO-GET-INVOLVED.txt | 10:18 |
| Lathiat | dholbach: :) | 10:18 |
| dholbach | ;-) | 10:19 |
| crimsun | are we supposed to be able to create accounts on malone? | 11:02 |
| dholbach | erm... i have one for ages... should be the one you use with the wiki | 11:03 |
| crimsun | d'oh! | 11:03 |
| crimsun | no wonder, I use a different email for that one O:-) | 11:04 |
| dholbach | you can merge accounts on malone as well | 11:04 |
| crimsun | ah. Thanks! :) | 11:05 |
| dholbach | i went through that procedure already ;-) | 11:06 |
| dholbach | is malone slow for you as well? | 11:06 |
| dholbach | i wonder if it's my connection | 11:07 |
| crimsun | it's not noticeably sluggish, no | 11:07 |
| dholbach | ah ok | 11:07 |
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| herve | mor... afternoon! | 02:21 |
| crimsun | morning! | 02:21 |
| crimsun | (guh, need sleep) | 02:21 |
| dholbach | hey herve! | 02:21 |
| dholbach | crimsun: good night then :-) | 02:22 |
| crimsun | 'ni :) | 02:22 |
| ogra | night crimsun | 02:24 |
| crimsun | night ogra :) | 02:25 |
| ogra | good work in #ubuntu ;) | 02:26 |
| HostingGeek | crimsun: you do not need sleep | 02:40 |
| HostingGeek | crimsun: i NEED sleep | 02:40 |
| HostingGeek | crimsun: paste 3 days partying only 4hrs sleep | 02:40 |
| HostingGeek | crimsun: feet totaly swallowen | 02:40 |
| HostingGeek | ... | 02:41 |
| herve | dholbach, did you poke elmo about sip-qt3 new binary packages? | 02:42 |
| dholbach | no | 02:42 |
| herve | they just magically appear in the archive | 02:42 |
| dholbach | wow wiki/AptGetOrg nearly finished | 02:44 |
| dholbach | i guess i'll be able to write to the list tonight | 02:44 |
| herve | crimsun, ping | 02:45 |
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| herve | er... he meant it when he said good night? :-) | 02:47 |
| dholbach | pals... i'm off | 02:52 |
| dholbach | see you later tonight | 02:52 |
| tseng | dholbach: gift-fasttrack reverses kazaa/sharman's network | 02:53 |
| tseng | dholbach: which they arent big fans of. | 02:53 |
| dholbach | tseng: erm? | 02:53 |
| dholbach | tseng: what do you refer to? | 02:53 |
| tseng | im looking at your list | 02:53 |
| tseng | AptGetOrg | 02:53 |
| dholbach | comment on it, please | 02:53 |
| tseng | ill move it to "legal" | 02:53 |
| dholbach | yes | 02:53 |
| dholbach | thanks for that | 02:53 |
| dholbach | i didnt have the time to review and heavily rely on everyone's input | 02:54 |
| herve | we'll be there :-) | 02:54 |
| dholbach | tseng: thanks for the "heads up" | 02:55 |
| dholbach | have a nice day everyone | 02:58 |
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| dholbach | need to catch the train | 02:58 |
| dholbach | *wave* | 02:58 |
| herve | ++ | 02:58 |
| HostingGeek | Amaranth: what happened with your menu editor? | 03:12 |
| Amaranth | HostingGeek: Bugs in pyxdg have halted development. | 03:14 |
| Amaranth | I have an 0.5 practically ready to go but pyxdg doesn't show user created menus. | 03:14 |
| HostingGeek | Amaranth: you said it was fixed :| | 03:15 |
| Amaranth | different bug | 03:15 |
| HostingGeek | Amaranth: why can't you patch pyxdg...? | 03:15 |
| Amaranth | even if i figured it out it wouldn't get into hoary | 03:15 |
| HostingGeek | Amaranth: you got more than 1 WEEK! | 03:16 |
| Amaranth | and other things to do | 03:16 |
| Amaranth | pymusique is taking up a lot of my time | 03:16 |
| HostingGeek | Amaranth: but this is a MENU EDITOR! | 03:17 |
| Amaranth | not even in the same category as pymusique, sorry | 03:18 |
| tseng | HostingGeek: I've told you nearly a half dozen times, no caps | 03:18 |
| tseng | you need to stop being obnoxious or you are out. | 03:18 |
| ogra | Amaranth, i looked at your package yesterday, we prefe not to have native packages (debian dir in the tar.gz) | 03:18 |
| HostingGeek | tseng: but.... its a menu editor! | 03:18 |
| ogra | prefer even | 03:18 |
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| Amaranth | ogra: I could have sworn my latest package fixed that. | 03:18 |
| HostingGeek | ok | 03:18 |
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| tseng | timeout chair. | 03:19 |
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| ogra | Amaranth, i didnt see a diff.gz in the dir... | 03:19 |
| Amaranth | diff.gz would have the debian dir? | 03:19 |
| ogra | Amaranth, the clean way is to have the source stuff in the .orig.gz and the debian specific stuff in the diff.gz, yes | 03:20 |
| Amaranth | i tried taht | 03:20 |
| Amaranth | err, that | 03:20 |
| Amaranth | i followed the guides and everything | 03:20 |
| Amaranth | i got an orig.tar.gz and a package | 03:20 |
| tseng | ftp://ftp.duckcorp.org/myserver/ - can anyone get here? | 03:20 |
| tseng | im going to mark it as dead | 03:20 |
| ogra | tseng, nope, its dead | 03:20 |
| Amaranth | i can | 03:20 |
| tseng | hm | 03:21 |
| tseng | Amaranth: yeah? | 03:21 |
| ogra | i tried several times already....it always timed out for me | 03:21 |
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| StoneTable | I'm trying to fix some stuff on the priority list (new guy). Should I add what I change to the changelog of the package I fix? | 03:21 |
| Amaranth | try ftp://62.4.21.229/myserver/ ? | 03:21 |
| Amaranth | i've just gotten it twice | 03:21 |
| HostingGeek | tseng: i can reach it | 03:21 |
| HostingGeek | tseng: thanks | 03:21 |
| HostingGeek | tseng: there is a hurd folder there.... | 03:22 |
| ogra | StoneTable, yup, and use pbuilder for building the new source package | 03:22 |
| tseng | StoneTable: definately. use dch -i, and change the dist to hoary, and the revision to Debian rev -Xubuntu1 | 03:22 |
| tseng | X = debian rev | 03:22 |
| StoneTable | yeah, I got educated on pbuilder last night :) | 03:23 |
| ogra | great | 03:23 |
| tseng | great | 03:23 |
| tseng | heh :( | 03:24 |
| ogra | :) | 03:24 |
| tseng | anyone for http://twerner.debian.net/deb-src/ ? | 03:24 |
| ogra | timeout | 03:24 |
| tseng | yep. | 03:24 |
| ogra | tseng, do you start from the bottom ? | 03:24 |
| tseng | yes | 03:25 |
| tseng | i will save in one second just for you | 03:25 |
| StoneTable | do I add it to the last changelog entry, or bump the version and add a new one? | 03:25 |
| tseng | ogra: saved | 03:25 |
| ogra | tseng, go ahead, i wont do it now, but start from the top later then | 03:25 |
| ogra | (didnt know dholbach wanted to leave, he was the top down guy ;) ) | 03:26 |
| tseng | i was going to go through everything in unreviewed | 03:26 |
| ogra | me too | 03:26 |
| tseng | just to make sure it exists | 03:26 |
| tseng | ok well im taking a bath | 03:26 |
| tseng | so hit it for 20 minutes or so :P | 03:26 |
| tseng | i did a bunch | 03:26 |
| ogra | tseng, for later....pull the Packages.gz and do | 03:27 |
| ogra | for i in `zgrep -E 'Package\:' Packages.gz | sed 's/Package\:\ //g'`; do LC_ALL=C apt-cache show $i; done | grep -E "(Package|Version)" | grep -v Standards | 03:27 |
| tseng | ok. | 03:27 |
| ogra | thats what dholbach uses.... | 03:27 |
| tseng | bbiab then | 03:27 |
| ogra | StoneTable, dch -i does nearly everything for you, if you made ubuntu changes, change the distribution in the first line from unstable to hoary and append the -Xubuntu1 to the debian version as tseng said | 03:29 |
| ogra | make sure the mailaddress is ok...dch will tell you whats wrong on save if you made formatting mistakes | 03:30 |
| StoneTable | okay, cool, thanks | 03:31 |
| HostingGeek | tseng: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetOrg LOL | 03:33 |
| HostingGeek | tseng: i said it has a FOLDER called hurd and another one i386 | 03:34 |
| HostingGeek | tseng: plus some tarballs | 03:34 |
| StoneTable | oh, dch is nice | 03:35 |
| ogra | yp | 03:35 |
| ogra | yup | 03:35 |
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| herve | dch -Dhoary is better :-) | 03:50 |
| ogra | heh | 03:51 |
| ogra | herve, dont disclose all our secrets ;) | 03:58 |
| herve | don't worry, I keep the secret options for us ;-) | 03:59 |
| ogra | heh | 04:00 |
| Amaranth | how do i make an diff.gz? | 04:12 |
| ogra | debuild -S | 04:12 |
| Amaranth | dh_make made an orig.tar.gz | 04:12 |
| Amaranth | d'oh | 04:12 |
| ogra | you make the orig.tar.gz with dh_make, then move into the source tree and make your modifications in the debian dir....then run debuild -S to create the diff | 04:13 |
| Amaranth | it didn't make one :/ | 04:13 |
| ogra | err, debuild -S -sa | 04:14 |
| ogra | sorry | 04:15 |
| Amaranth | grr, still nothing | 04:16 |
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| herve | grrr | 04:19 |
| StoneTable | okay. I think I've done it right: http://thorin.battleaxe.net/~stone/hoary/ | 04:39 |
| StoneTable | gotta run, but I'll be back in an hour or so | 04:45 |
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| StoneTable | Once I've built a package (going through the priority list), what's the process to have someone review it? | 06:15 |
| herve | ask it :-) | 06:16 |
| StoneTable | okay, could someone review my xmms-alarm-bmp1 packages? http://thorin.battleaxe.net/~stone/hoary/ :) | 06:16 |
| herve | hmm wait | 06:17 |
| herve | argh | 06:18 |
| herve | I think you should have move this packages to "Working on" | 06:19 |
| StoneTable | oh? | 06:19 |
| herve | so that no one else would work on it at the same time | 06:19 |
| StoneTable | ahhh, I see that on the page now | 06:19 |
| StoneTable | I'll do that now | 06:19 |
| herve | and I added a step | 06:20 |
| herve | "Waiting review" | 06:20 |
| herve | I'll review it | 06:23 |
| herve | but can't upload it | 06:23 |
| StoneTable | okay, cool | 06:24 |
| schweeb | wassup stone | 06:24 |
| herve | argh | 06:24 |
| herve | I won't go further | 06:25 |
| herve | it shouldn't be named like this | 06:25 |
| herve | but xmms-alarm-bmp1_0.3.6-0.1ubuntu1.dsc | 06:25 |
| herve | (er... no .dsc) | 06:25 |
| StoneTable | hey schweeb | 06:25 |
| StoneTable | okay, I'll get that fixed | 06:25 |
| herve | no need to add another entry to the changelog | 06:26 |
| herve | just fix yours | 06:26 |
| herve | hey trulux ! | 06:26 |
| schweeb | StoneTable: oh yea, something I forgot to mention... when you modify a package for ubuntu, you don't generally up the main revision, you up (or add) the ubuntu revision | 06:27 |
| trulux | hey herve | 06:27 |
| trulux | howdy? | 06:27 |
| herve | yeah \o/ | 06:27 |
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| herve | hi jbailey | 06:33 |
| jbailey | heya herve. | 06:36 |
| tseng | ogra: i finished weeding out dead/obvious stuff | 07:41 |
| tseng | ogra: everything is in "Source Repos" now for stage 2 review | 07:41 |
| ogra | yeah, great work tseng | 07:48 |
| tseng | thanks. | 07:48 |
| ogra | you rock ;) | 07:48 |
| tseng | was nothing. | 07:48 |
| tseng | dholbach is the real hero | 07:49 |
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| tseng | (and will probably be doing alot of stage 2 :( ) | 07:49 |
| ogra | tseng, true | 07:49 |
| tseng | poor guy doesnt know when to say no | 07:49 |
| tseng | or something. | 07:49 |
| ogra | thats what i am here for ;) | 07:49 |
| ogra | i often pull him back to the ground.... | 07:50 |
| ogra | but sadly i'm not always available.... | 07:50 |
| StoneTable | is there a trick to creating a patch to use with dpatch? I can't get dpatch to apply this patch | 07:51 |
| ogra | he really likes to do it, but time is short....we'll have to drop a lot of tasks | 07:51 |
| tseng | StoneTable: indeed there is. | 07:51 |
| StoneTable | diff -u src/file.c src/file.c.patched | 07:51 |
| ogra | diff -ruN olddir newdir | 07:51 |
| tseng | StoneTable: http://tseng.ath.cx/log/?p=7 read this. | 07:51 |
| StoneTable | ah | 07:51 |
| tseng | hopefully your source isnt in a half patched state atm | 07:52 |
| tseng | I hate when I manage that | 07:52 |
| StoneTable | heh | 07:52 |
| StoneTable | luckily, its a tiny patch | 07:53 |
| StoneTable | good to learn with | 07:53 |
| tseng | dpatch is great once you know the "trick" | 07:54 |
| tseng | however, if your package is already using cdbs | 07:54 |
| tseng | simple-patchsys.mk lets you use regular diffs in the same manner | 07:54 |
| tseng | very nice. | 07:54 |
| trulux | I don't get the (r) registered trademark character working with LaTeX | 07:55 |
| trulux | :) | 07:55 |
| ogra | very nice description... | 07:55 |
| ogra | deserves a wiki page... | 07:55 |
| tseng | there is a bit of one | 07:55 |
| tseng | that i found after writing that | 07:55 |
| tseng | but its not as comprehensive imo | 07:55 |
| tseng | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/PackagingTips/view?searchterm=dpatch | 07:56 |
| tseng | ogra: when i wrote that, someone from docs was here and asked me about doing an ubuntu development handbook in the breezy time frame | 07:57 |
| tseng | i dont recall the nick | 07:57 |
| ogra | yeah, sounds like a marvelous idea | 07:58 |
| StoneTable | well, hopefully I can get this figured out today, test this out, and get it reviewed | 07:58 |
| herve | I'd like to participate to that | 07:58 |
| tseng | great herve | 07:58 |
| herve | and I know dholbach would too :-) | 07:58 |
| tseng | basing on the debian new maint guide seems obvious to me | 07:58 |
| ogra | the ubuntu MOTU book | 07:58 |
| tseng | but its lacking on a few subjects | 07:58 |
| tseng | cdbs, dpatch usage, transitions | 07:59 |
| tseng | stuff that comes up daily here. | 07:59 |
| herve | tseng, reading you blog page... I would never have thought dpatch is so impressive | 08:00 |
| tseng | yeah it seemed that alot of people didnt know about it when dholbach and I started playing with it | 08:01 |
| herve | the last howto I saw about dpatch | 08:01 |
| herve | suggested to put the diff in 01foobar.dpatch | 08:01 |
| tseng | and edit the top? | 08:01 |
| tseng | lame. | 08:02 |
| herve | and copy/paste the sh snippet at the top of it | 08:02 |
| tseng | i was doing that as well | 08:02 |
| herve | now I discover there's some shell inside it :-) | 08:02 |
| tseng | but hey, on the same note | 08:02 |
| tseng | you can actually add a custom dpatch template to debian/patches and have it use that | 08:02 |
| herve | I guess the result is the same | 08:03 |
| StoneTable | wow, tseng. dpatch-edit-patch is /really/ nice | 08:03 |
| tseng | yes, but "my" way is way cooler | 08:03 |
| herve | no hesitation :-) | 08:03 |
| tseng | for an example of a template, see linux-image source | 08:03 |
| tseng | not that that is terribly interesting to me | 08:04 |
| tseng | just be aware that its possible. | 08:05 |
| herve | I like finding examples of nice packaging tips in other packages | 08:05 |
| tseng | im going to blog http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/ after I hear back from the author | 08:05 |
| tseng | it seems like alot of people miss out on that as well | 08:05 |
| tseng | I just made a feature request for links to buildlogs | 08:06 |
| herve | next step, qa.packages.ubuntu.com -:) | 08:06 |
| herve | :-) | 08:07 |
| tseng | yes. | 08:07 |
| StoneTable | alright, patch works if called directly via dpatch | 08:09 |
| StoneTable | but isn't applying when I run dpkg-buildpackage. I must have foobared debian/rules | 08:10 |
| tseng | are you including dpatch.mk? | 08:10 |
| tseng | include /usr/share/dpatch/dpatch.make | 08:10 |
| StoneTable | yep, I added that | 08:10 |
| tseng | did you add the patch to 00list? | 08:10 |
| herve | it's a cdbs package? | 08:11 |
| tseng | minus the suffid. | 08:11 |
| tseng | suffix | 08:11 |
| tseng | herve: doesnt matter | 08:11 |
| StoneTable | oh, minus the suffix | 08:11 |
| tseng | you can include dpatch anywhere | 08:11 |
| tseng | yeah cat 00list | 08:11 |
| herve | yes but that syntax is to be used inside cdbs? | 08:11 |
| tseng | no? | 08:11 |
| tseng | its makefile syntax | 08:11 |
| tseng | cdbs just gives a set of prebuilt rules | 08:11 |
| herve | ok, after phony targets, I need to learn that "include" keyword :-) | 08:12 |
| StoneTable | once the file is included, I need to tell it to patch and unpatch in rules, right? | 08:13 |
| tseng | if you actually took all the code from various .mk's in cdbs, youd have a traditional debian/rules | 08:13 |
| tseng | albeit overly large | 08:13 |
| schweeb | StoneTable: I would assume dpatch.make takes care of that | 08:13 |
| tseng | its just a bit of abstraction. | 08:14 |
| Lathiat | Can someone tell me if detachable toolbars are on in a default ubuntu install? | 08:14 |
| tseng | yes. | 08:14 |
| StoneTable | schweeb: so I assumed, but it doesn't look like the patch is getting applied | 08:14 |
| Lathiat | to me? | 08:14 |
| tseng | yes. | 08:14 |
| Lathiat | tseng: can you open gedit or evolution, detach the toolbar by dragging it off, then see if you can drag it back into the docked state? | 08:15 |
| herve | StoneTable, I remember changelog entries from DDs saying they forgot to add their new patch to 00list :-) | 08:15 |
| tseng | no, i cant put it back atm | 08:15 |
| StoneTable | $ cat 00list 01fix-alarm-c-bmp | 08:15 |
| Lathiat | yeh same here, so not just me and will file a bug | 08:15 |
| herve | Lathiat, it's stuck | 08:15 |
| Lathiat | tseng: you can get the draggers focus | 08:15 |
| Lathiat | and hti enter | 08:15 |
| Lathiat | and it will re-dock | 08:15 |
| Lathiat | or just restart the app | 08:16 |
| Lathiat | thanks | 08:16 |
| StoneTable | patch minus the extension, right? | 08:16 |
| tseng | yes | 08:16 |
| tseng | that looks right | 08:16 |
| StoneTable | okay, looks like something in my rules then. I'll keep hacking on it | 08:17 |
| StoneTable | something with the way it's applied via rules that's different | 08:18 |
| herve | StoneTable, you fixed the ubuntu revision number? | 08:18 |
| StoneTable | herve: yep | 08:18 |
| StoneTable | but then I found something else I should be doing different, so I'm fixing that :) | 08:18 |
| herve | np | 08:19 |
| herve | ogra, I think I've got the same temperature problem as you | 08:24 |
| herve | what did you do in the end? | 08:24 |
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| ogra | herve, take my laptop off the pillow to make sure the air can circulate better | 08:25 |
| ogra | herve, you got an amd64 ? | 08:26 |
| herve | arf | 08:26 |
| herve | no, a simple p4m | 08:26 |
| herve | but I already know laptops are not to be chocked :-) | 08:27 |
| ogra | herve, does the file /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRC/temperature exist on your system ? | 08:27 |
| herve | s/THRC/THRM yes | 08:28 |
| herve | temperature: 52 C | 08:28 |
| herve | I'll wait to compile python-kde :-/ | 08:28 |
| ogra | i have a little tool for my system tray, i'll upload a tgz for you, might be necessary to adjust the path a bit | 08:29 |
| herve | I had a tool for toshiba to force the fan on | 08:29 |
| herve | I don't know for dell | 08:30 |
| ogra | www.grawert.net/cputmp.tgz | 08:30 |
| herve | you're using gnomecanvas? ;-) | 08:31 |
| ogra | as i said, adjust the THERM_ZONE variable in cputmp.py and just run it... | 08:31 |
| herve | it seems I need to install some egg.trayicon | 08:32 |
| ogra | oops, indeed | 08:32 |
| herve | found | 08:33 |
| herve | apt-file rocks :-) | 08:33 |
| ogra | yeah | 08:33 |
| herve | gulp! 55 C | 08:34 |
| herve | better go to dinner while it's cooling :-) | 08:35 |
| ogra | mine is going over 70 from time to time... | 08:35 |
| herve | I don't find the point of an amd64 in a laptop, anyway ;-) | 08:36 |
| herve | see you later | 08:36 |
| ogra | ciao | 08:36 |
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| herve | strange... it won't cool below 49C | 09:11 |
| ogra | herve, mine is lowest at 42 | 09:12 |
| ogra | but the averages is 47 | 09:12 |
| ogra | -s | 09:12 |
| herve | I don't expect a "little" p4 mobile cpu to heat that much | 09:13 |
| herve | especially when doing nothing for a quarter of jour | 09:13 |
| herve | hour | 09:13 |
| ogra | probably you need to blow a bit cool wind into the case :-P | 09:14 |
| herve | I have a usb fan to plug in case ;-) | 09:14 |
| herve | I removed the media base to see | 09:14 |
| herve | </ot> | 09:14 |
| StoneTable | okay. xmms-alarm-bmp1 should probably be put into the morgue. It depends on beep-media-player <0.9.6.1. 0.9.7 is in hoary, and it does not work with either xmms or bmp in hoary (makes xmms segfault, bmp doesn't even recognize it) | 09:26 |
| StoneTable | should I put that in MorgueProposal? | 09:27 |
| ogra | StoneTable, ok, then put it on the MorgueCandidates list :) thanks for investigating :) | 09:27 |
| StoneTable | okay, np. On to the next one | 09:28 |
| ogra | yeah :) | 09:28 |
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| herve | yeah! | 09:29 |
| herve | let's get rid of those unmaintained crack ;-) | 09:29 |
| ogra | yeah | 09:29 |
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| ogra | and pull in other unmaintained crack from apt-get | 09:29 |
| ogra | .org | 09:29 |
| herve | yeah! and python-kde too! it's incompatible with latest libraries! | 09:30 |
| ogra | go on :) | 09:30 |
| herve | yeah! enthusiasm! | 09:30 |
| herve | it can't seem to go below 42C. I guess I can't expect more | 09:46 |
| herve | good | 09:49 |
| herve | I can't compile C++ code | 09:49 |
| herve | it heats the laptop like hell :-) | 09:50 |
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| dholbach | hey | 09:52 |
| herve | yo Daniel! | 09:53 |
| dholbach | tseng: thanks for your mail | 09:53 |
| dholbach | hey herve | 09:53 |
| dholbach | tseng: and for AptGettingOrg :-) | 09:53 |
| dholbach | tseng: funny thing is: mxpxpod (bryan forbes, mr. coaster) said to me coaster wasnt ready, so i stopped my packaging attempts; i'm was flabbergasted as you are, when i read his blog entry about it | 09:56 |
| dholbach | if it's ready now *shrug* get it in | 09:56 |
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| dholbach | hey herve :-) | 10:02 |
| herve | do you remember than command-line utility | 10:04 |
| herve | to launch another command with regular intervals? | 10:04 |
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| tseng | dholbach: wb | 10:19 |
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| trulux | where's tritium? | 10:47 |
| dholbach | maybe out... on a sunshiny day | 10:48 |
| trulux | :) | 10:50 |
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| herve | er... | 11:08 |
| herve | dholbach, ? | 11:08 |
| dholbach | herve: ! | 11:09 |
| herve | what if I sollicitate you to upload "burn" | 11:09 |
| herve | which is ready for 24h now :-) | 11:09 |
| dholbach | hahaha | 11:11 |
| dholbach | dpkg-source: extracting burn in burn-0.4.2 | 11:11 |
| dholbach | tar: Read 5120 bytes from - | 11:11 |
| dholbach | tar: burn/docs: implausibly old time stamp 1970-01-01 01:00:00 | 11:11 |
| dholbach | tar: burn: implausibly old time stamp 1970-01-01 01:00:00 | 11:11 |
| dholbach | ESOFTWARETOOOLD | 11:11 |
| herve | ;-) | 11:11 |
| dholbach | shall i touch -m it? | 11:13 |
| ogra | good idea :) | 11:13 |
| herve | can't tell | 11:13 |
| dholbach | oh.. tar/whatever did it itself | 11:14 |
| dholbach | ah no... orig.tar.gz won't be changed | 11:14 |
| herve | which is kinda what you except from a "orig" file ;-) | 11:15 |
| dholbach | herve: done | 11:15 |
| herve | thank you! | 11:16 |
| herve | tell me you gave it a quick review :-) | 11:17 |
| herve | I'm not totally reliable these times | 11:17 |
| dholbach | a brief one | 11:17 |
| herve | just a debdiff would reassure me | 11:18 |
| dholbach | not that many uploads today :-) | 11:19 |
| herve | yes | 11:20 |
| herve | I'm still stuck with those sip4/qt/kde hell's angels :-) | 11:20 |
| dholbach | :-) | 11:20 |
| dholbach | i have a good excuse as well, was busy with lists and playing-drums-and-eating-pizza-with-a-charming-girl today ;-) | 11:21 |
| herve | excuse accepted! | 11:22 |
| dholbach | thanks :-) | 11:22 |
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| tritium | good afternoon :) | 11:28 |
| dholbach | hey tritium | 11:28 |
| tritium | What's up dholbach ? | 11:28 |
| herve | houba! | 11:28 |
| tritium | Hi herve | 11:28 |
| dholbach | tritium: did they convey my message to you? concerning the shlibs-message of krecipes? | 11:29 |
| tritium | dholbach, no. Who's they? | 11:29 |
| dholbach | erm | 11:29 |
| tritium | But I know which 2 lintian warning you're referring to | 11:29 |
| dholbach | whoever was in the channel after i went to bed ;-) | 11:29 |
| tritium | I dicussed that with amu | 11:29 |
| dholbach | ah ok | 11:29 |
| dholbach | did you find out if those libraries are needed? | 11:29 |
| dholbach | i mean... to be installed? | 11:29 |
| dholbach | if not, you might have a look at mlview | 11:30 |
| dholbach | they handle it nicely in debian/rules | 11:30 |
| tritium | mlview? | 11:30 |
| tritium | oh, okay. | 11:30 |
| dholbach | yeah... had to have a look at their code and then remembered | 11:30 |
| tritium | amu and I read up on that, and found out that in the case of small binary packages that require a few libs, it's okay | 11:30 |
| dholbach | if the binary is compiled against their own libraries and those aren't to be installed you can remove them in the post-install target | 11:31 |
| dholbach | else lintian will assume you want to install them and argues about missing shlibs files | 11:31 |
| dholbach | erm post-compile | 11:32 |
| dholbach | sorry | 11:32 |
| tritium | dholbach, okay. I'll double-check | 11:32 |
| tritium | dholbach, this is what I was referring to: http://lintian.debian.org/reports/Tnon-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink.html | 11:32 |
| tritium | 3rd paragraph | 11:32 |
| dholbach | ah yes | 11:33 |
| tritium | But I'll try to find out if they can be completely removed instead. | 11:33 |
| dholbach | yeah | 11:34 |
| tritium | dholbach, so, did anybody else review the package? | 11:34 |
| herve | lintian would be much funnier if reports by maintainer where sorted in violation order | 11:35 |
| herve | not alphabetical one :-) | 11:35 |
| herve | s/where/were | 11:35 |
| dholbach | haha herve | 11:35 |
| dholbach | tritium: did amu review it? | 11:35 |
| tritium | dholbach, yes, some time ago | 11:35 |
| dholbach | did he make a note? | 11:36 |
| tritium | he told me to fix up some lintian warnings, which I did, and it looked good | 11:36 |
| tritium | No, but ogra reminded him to about 2 days ago | 11:36 |
| tritium | I don't know if he ever responded to ogra or even got his /msg | 11:36 |
| dholbach | i'll push someone towards it | 11:36 |
| tritium | Thanks. | 11:36 |
| dholbach | :-) | 11:36 |
| dholbach | de rien | 11:36 |
| ogra | tritium, i only pinged him with a messeage in -devel, he didnt answer | 11:36 |
| tritium | ogra, okay, thanks :) | 11:37 |
| ogra | just waiting for his comment on the page, i'm willing wave it through blindly then (even if its not my normal practice) | 11:37 |
| tritium | Thanks, ogra. | 11:38 |
| tritium | we had quite a night/early morning in #ubuntu last night | 11:38 |
| ogra | np | 11:39 |
| tritium | There was a racist incident | 11:39 |
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| tritium | luckily lamont as able to kick/ban him. | 11:40 |
| tritium | I'm glad they discussed getting ops for #ubuntu at the last CC meeting | 11:40 |
| dholbach | yeah... even without those guys it's hard to read anything in #ubuntu scroll-wise | 11:41 |
| herve | I came to the conclusion that... | 11:41 |
| herve | either python-kde or me is fscked up :-/ | 11:41 |
| herve | I quit | 11:43 |
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| dholbach | herve: take an easy Xorg-buildproblem | 11:43 |
| dholbach | :-) | 11:43 |
| herve | that's what I'm thinking of | 11:44 |
| dholbach | although they're hard to spot on the list | 11:44 |
| herve | but I wanted that python transition to finish | 11:44 |
| herve | here I am! | 11:46 |
| herve | free to handle that xorg transition! | 11:46 |
| dholbach | you have to cherrypick them from the lists | 11:47 |
| dholbach | but i'm preparing new ones ... hahahahaha | 11:48 |
| dholbach | but i'll preserve those already fixed | 11:48 |
| herve | er... which am I supposed to consult? | 11:48 |
| ogra | oh, god, someone give him his pills !!! | 11:48 |
| dholbach | UniverseDoesNotBuild | 11:48 |
| herve | dholbach, I prefer you as WikiMaster than ListMaster ;-) | 11:49 |
| herve | ogra, even that girl would not have calm him down ;-) | 11:49 |
| ogra | hehe | 11:49 |
| herve | xorg and xosd lists seem over | 11:51 |
| dholbach | but not all xorg-buildproblems ever appeared there | 11:51 |
| dholbach | most of those reverse-depending on liballegro* should be b0rked | 11:52 |
| dholbach | (like atanks) | 11:52 |
| herve | the DesktopFile transition seems endless! | 11:53 |
| dholbach | E_NOTPRIMARYTARGET :-) | 11:53 |
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| dholbach | 1) buildable 2) installable 3) clickable | 11:53 |
| herve | dholbach, I just was giving a tour to all our lists | 11:54 |
| ogra | herve i still would prefer a script generating them... | 11:54 |
| dholbach | herve: i know :-) | 11:54 |
| ogra | (.desktop files) | 11:54 |
| herve | is the unmetdep list reliable? | 11:55 |
| dholbach | yes, but you can make up your own :-) | 11:56 |
| dholbach | apt-get -i unmet | less | 11:56 |
| tritium | dholbach: | 11:57 |
| tritium | rimbert@ubuntu:~ $ objdump -p /usr/bin/krecipes | grep NEEDED | 11:57 |
| tritium | NEEDED libkrecipesexporters.so.0 | 11:57 |
| tritium | NEEDED libkrecqsqlite.so.0 | 11:57 |
| tritium | (among others) | 11:58 |
| tritium | Does that only specify build dependencies? | 11:58 |
| dholbach | you could just try :-) | 11:59 |
| dholbach | and see, if they're REALLY needed ;-) | 11:59 |
| tritium | try removing the libs and seeing if it works? okay, I'll dothat | 11:59 |
| tritium | do that | 12:00 |
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