[12:01] yea, shit on apt-get.org is far from passing anything [12:02] but we cant apply it to the apt-get.org pkgs.... [12:02] thats what makes me worried... [12:02] that's what is unfair [12:02] everyone: ping re: motu report -- please /query me a line or two about what you did and liked in the last month of motu work, kthxbye, love daniel [12:02] those packages bypass quality requirements [12:02] you can put a package with a huge backdoor on apt-get.org.....and then access all the ubuntu systems using it [12:03] dholbach, tonight ? [12:03] i will now ping each and every hour [12:03] :-) [12:03] how many hours ? [12:03] to make sure you don't feel left out afterwards [12:04] until april, 1st [12:04] I'll be back later, and I'll start working on it, dholbach. [12:04] that's when the report is due [12:04] ok [12:04] tritium: bye michael... working on what? linitian? [12:04] so tomorrow is enough... [12:04] dholbach, motu report info for you [12:04] tritium: thanks a lot [12:05] tritium: just one or two lines [12:05] sure, no problem :) [12:05] see you all soon. === tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [12:11] dammit, burned my food :-/ [12:12] dholbach, http://kitenet.net/~joey/debian/unstable/ [12:12] dholbach, fun [12:12] yeah [12:12] ;-) [12:12] Kamion will love it... [12:12] [12:12] let me guess... [12:13] importing apt-get.org also was Colin's idea? [12:13] there is also a experimental .... [12:13] luckily its empty currently [12:14] herve, no I think sabdlf wants as many packages in ubuntu as possible [12:14] but we're too few to review them all [12:14] yep [12:14] jani, I know ;-) [12:15] I think importing a few key packages of interest is a really good idea... after review... everything? no [12:15] just feels wrong [12:16] I asked for either users or those maintainers ask for the inclusion of such packages [12:16] yes there should have been a voting or something going on on users list and get in what is demanded [12:16] not every deb [12:19] as ogra said, the motu all agree :-) [12:20] evening all [12:20] bye === jani [~pet@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:21] schweeb, sabdfls idea was that no user has to touch the sources.list, which is a really ingenious idea....but still... [12:22] ogra: don't they have to go into the apt sources configurator to even get universe? [12:23] schweeb: yes [12:23] schweeb, yop [12:23] hmm [12:23] I think synaptic has a checkbox [12:23] but it's [12:23] still [12:23] it's consired to be the advanced user tool [12:24] add another section in the repos then... "not-looked-at-by-motus-imported-from-apt-get.org" [12:24] :P [12:24] s/consired/considered [12:24] I suggest "dont-even-whin-on-ubuntu-users" :-) [12:24] hehe [12:24] haha [12:25] 3 level user support ;-) [12:25] you've got supported, supported by MOTU, and "piss off" [12:26] "cry to your mother" to stay polite! [12:27] tomorrow I'll work on other thing [12:27] those python transition are really pissing me off [12:31] herve, any idea about burn ? there is a weird message on ubuntu-users [12:31] checking... [12:32] its not on the transition list and installs fine on my amd64 [12:32] "error installing burn on hoary" ? [12:33] yop [12:33] but py2.3 is available...so it should get sucked in by the deps [12:33] I'm working on it :-) [12:35] "tar: burn/docs: implausibly old time stamp 1970-01-01 01:00:00" [12:35] good... [12:40] heh [12:41] i'm always impressed by those DD who used dh_make but but that's pretty all... [12:42] heh [12:42] be happy they didnt use debmake ... [12:42] *fear* [12:43] *g* [12:43] I'm seriously wondering which priority to give to a bug against python-iconvcodec [12:43] low ? [12:43] it seems maintain by dh_make itself, not a human being [12:44] very_extra_low ? [12:44] below_ground ? [12:44] I thought QA bugs would be serious [12:45] burn is nice too [12:45] "I use `pwd` because I don't know about $(CURDIR) [12:45] " [12:47] lol [12:49] okay [12:49] I have burn ready to upload [12:49] yay [12:50] I would have been usefull today finally [12:50] herve, youre always useful :) [12:50] not only today [12:51] you kidding [12:51] I broke sip4 and packages depending on it [12:51] which means qt and kde python bindinds [12:51] and ? [12:51] bindinggggs [12:51] yes I know [12:51] who cares about kde :-) [12:51] *g* === ogra has drunken nearly a bottle merlot [12:52] I'm desperately waiting on the DD to continue his work on new upstreams of those packages === tritium [~rimbert@pal-169-113.itap.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve gives the high five to tritium === tritium smiles at herve :) [12:54] ogra: heh, I should start in on this fifth of rum I have next to me ;) [12:54] what? I said it wrong? :-) [12:54] merlot? phew... [12:54] schweeb, prost :) [12:54] I've got whisky and champagne here ;-) === dholbach 'd rather like cookies [12:55] hehe [12:55] can do [12:55] lol [12:55] I'm still thinking how to send them in Germany... [12:55] when I'm not typing, I'm drinking :) [12:56] (add "about" where appropriate) [12:56] herve: in a big, ticking box that says "not a bomb" on it [12:56] and "fragile" too :-) [12:56] hmmmmmmmmmmmmm [12:56] cookies [12:56] wow, siretart had just fixed 3 packages [12:57] dholbach, you'd prefer coconut or chocolate ones? [12:57] or both! [12:57] yeah both! :-) [12:58] I think I'll start a business and sell them on open markets ;-) [12:58] I buy home-made jam that way [12:58] soooooo good [12:59] herve: my mum provides me with it :-) [12:59] you lucky [12:59] how old are you, dholbach [12:59] herve: i tell her to send you a package :-) [01:00] schweeb: 26 [01:00] never too old for cookies :) [01:00] I have to provide mine with this jam from grenoble :-) [01:00] hihi [01:00] yeah, sending a jar should be easier [01:01] just send some vacuum packed cookes to him, heh [01:01] herve: i wouldnt start a package with ONE jar - give me your adress and i'll see what i can do ;-) [01:02] it's too late if you were not serious ;-) [01:15] ok somebody give me an easy package to fix [01:15] please [01:15] :-) [01:16] i need more of a success feeling before i go to bed [01:16] "python-iconvcoded: unmaintained crap, fire that maintainer" [01:16] :-) [01:16] hmm... too aggressive I guess :-) [01:16] dholbach, whoops [01:16] I should have left you "burn" [01:17] or you can pretend I haven't done anything and fix it yourself [01:17] hrmmmm [01:17] EDOESNTFEELRIGHT === schweeb hasn't had the energy to fix anything yet [01:18] in how many hou^Wdays you want to go to bed? [01:19] because you could fix gcompris :-p [01:19] ETOOMUCHPAIN [01:19] ;-) [01:20] wow... autogen needs assembler [01:20] *shudder* [01:20] eeek [01:20] why [01:20] http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/a/autogen/1:5.6.5-1/autogen_1:5.6.5-1_20050319-0049-ia64-failed [01:22] dholbach, I suggest you look at pidentd [01:22] but this means asking lamont to kick it, roughly :-) [01:23] hmm === maskie [~maskie@196-30-109-18.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:25] are ia64 fixes really important if this arch is not official? [01:26] no [01:27] lamont: scummvm build was cracked up by pkgstriptranslations on i386 === goedson [~goedson@200.150.28.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] lamont: nevermind... you already gave it back [01:29] why are kdebase and kdeaddons on the list? [01:29] they're in main now [01:30] put a note by em, irssi-text is in there too... [01:30] herve: it's all my fault [01:30] irssi is fixed [01:30] dholbach, ho no, don't say that [01:30] uploaded yesterday [01:30] herve: messed up the lists [01:31] ogra: what was the prob with irssi? [01:31] ia64 bug [01:31] ah [01:31] lamont: why have all of the builds powerpc-givenback? [01:32] and anything related to mrproject should be dropped NOW [01:32] gives me the feeling something wasnt right [01:34] linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10_2.6.10.3-8_20050324-2326-ia64-failed [01:34] I guess it's not our concern either? [01:34] alright... looking after kmerlin [01:35] broken kde stuff should be referred to as Krack, right? ;-) [01:35] rofl [01:35] :-) [01:35] *cough* krap *cough* [01:35] nautilus-media should be dropped too [01:35] herve: mailed elmo about it [01:35] lol [01:36] pcmcia-modules-2.4.26-i386_3.2.5+1_20050324-0623-i386-failed [01:36] who cares... [01:36] chuck out [01:36] :-) [01:37] what should we do with these packages that need things like kernel-source-2.4.26 and such (user-mode-linux) [01:37] tell #u-kernel [01:37] zul wanted to have a look at those [01:38] just inform them about any package that requires a kernel-source package? [01:39] any kernel crack [01:39] okay [01:40] I wonder how many times you said "crack" today -:) [01:40] hehe [01:40] be back later === tritium [~rimbert@pal-169-113.itap.purdue.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [01:40] too often [01:41] I could grep logs :P === schweeb has like 200MB of IRC logs from various networks/channels [01:41] m2crypto in the archive \o/ [01:42] yeah [01:44] I can go to sleep with the mind in peace :-) [01:44] good night all [01:48] i'm about to go to bed too [01:48] kmerlin seems to build just fine :-) === ogra watches battlestar galactica before bed...and probably im juli afterwards [01:49] jaaaaaaaaa [01:49] "IM JULI" === dholbach takes murphy for the last walk tonight [01:51] ogra: best scifi show ever [01:52] schweeb, its the film :) [01:52] s/film/movie [01:52] miniseries then ;) [01:53] yeah [01:53] all the same to me, it's all good [01:55] when season 2's out I'll be much happier :) [01:55] heh [03:02] kmerlin fixed and uploaded [03:02] have a good night everyone [03:02] night [03:03] night dholbach [03:03] if tritium turns up again: tell him to look if those libs are really needed (i doubt it) and he should look how mlview handles it in debian/rules [03:03] check. [03:03] bye daniel [03:04] night dholbach [03:04] bye oliver [03:05] w00t, elmo put gsf-sharp through [03:06] evening ogra, schweeb [03:06] evenin [03:06] hi crimsun === blueyed [~dAniel@iD4CC0323.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pe7er [~losof@pD95EB6D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pe7er [~losof@pD95EB6D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S01060020ed20f68f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:14] Riddell: ping [06:18] dts in #ubuntu is having problems upgrading python-kde3 (due to it not having been rebuilt for python2.4) [06:19] if it's ok, I'll go ahead and do the transition, but I need to check with the kubuntu folks first, I presume === tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:26] morning, tritium [07:26] morning, crimsun. How are you [07:26] ? [07:27] not too bad, listening to Kenny Garrett (Standard of Language) and getting ready to do more pike work. Yourself? [07:28] I'm fine, thanks. Going to read some papers and perhaps try to pick something off the priority list and see if I can do anything with it ;) [07:29] =) [07:31] I recorded my wife singing, and she's having a blast with audacity now :) [07:32] great :) [07:33] It's fun seeing her pick up linux so well. She uses it full time now. [07:34] nice === schweeb plans on converting the parents [07:34] hey schweeb :) [07:34] what up tritium [07:34] not much. you? [07:35] thinkin about fixin libgdiplus and user-mode-linux [07:35] heh [07:35] nice [07:37] although I either gotta get the kernel guys to pkg 2.4.26's source, or I gotta upgrade u-m-l's version [07:37] it'll be easier to simply upgrade it in Breezy [07:38] for Hoary, perhaps bandaid it so it builds [07:38] just looking at torcs [07:38] bandaiding it so it builds needs kernel-source :) [07:38] it builds on ia64 [07:38] but nothing else [07:38] so I gotta bump it to .27 [07:39] in Breezy, I'll upload a 2.6 kernel [07:39] as I use u-m-l a decent bit [07:40] schweeb: rather, have it check for _a_ kernel source, not kernel-source-foo [07:41] er, it's rather version sensitive [07:41] oh, which version of u-m-l? [07:41] it patches the kernel, then builds from the uml arch [07:41] right, make arch=um [07:42] in universe right now it's 2.4.26 [07:42] no 2.4.26 source... got .25 and .27 [07:42] hmm, uml is in 2.6, though. [07:42] still needs patches [07:42] just smaller ones :) [07:43] gah [07:43] that way insanity lies [07:43] I'm IRCing from a UML right now [07:43] heh [07:43] yeah, I used uml a bit a while ago [07:44] although, I could harass mdz about it, it is his package :) [07:45] true :) [07:50] bugger [07:50] I'd have to fix kernel-patch-uml too [07:51] crimsun, feel like helping ells with his sound problem :D ? [07:51] although I could hack it to work w/o it :) [07:52] tritium: lemme read scrollback [07:52] crimsun, thanks [08:54] ogra, you up? [08:54] lamont, can you get ops in #ubuntu (if you're up)? [08:55] we got any aussie admins? [08:55] those are the people that would be up [08:55] like jdub [08:56] I tried ogra and lamont [08:56] I see you tried jdub in -devel [08:56] it is 6am in europe [08:57] on Sunda [08:57] y [08:57] sorry - sup? [08:57] 3pm/5pm in aussie so someone might be kicking around [08:57] daniels perhaps [08:57] lamont, we have a racist situation in #ubuntu [08:57] talk to an oper perhaps [08:57] who needs kick-banned? [08:57] it has gotten rather offensive at times [08:57] dcm [08:57] oh lamont is around [08:59] lamont, it's all in the logs if you need to see. Also, Burgundavia has some logs of his own [08:59] saw enough scrollback [08:59] thanks. [08:59] good [08:59] so does that deal with it? [08:59] he'll probably be back :/ [09:00] I have emailed mako [09:00] with gpg signed logs [09:00] great [09:00] I'm glad the issue of ops has already come up in the CC meetings [09:01] Thanks for handling that lamont [09:01] added thanks lamont [09:14] Burgundavia, crimsun, lamont: have a good night. See you tomorrow. === tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.77.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [~daniel@td9091bb6.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:10] gooood morning [10:11] morning dholbach [10:11] morning, dholbach [10:11] yeah! my first package has been ACCEPTED in debian! :) [10:11] congrats! [10:11] WOW [10:11] grats! :-) [10:11] hey you two [10:13] it's still in incoming, but has already been build for 5 architectures (not counting amd64 and i386) - buildds rock! [10:13] indeed they do [10:13] which one is it? [10:14] its pong2 [10:15] oh cool [10:15] we'll have it, when breezy opens [10:15] *ROCK* [10:15] its a nice small game, classical pong in 3d (opengl). A friend of mine has done it as homework for a course, and started a project on berlios for it [10:16] i packaged a friends tool too [10:16] pong2.berlios.de [10:16] felt obliged to ;-) [10:16] *screenshots* [10:17] woah... these kind of games make me dizzy ;-) [10:17] definitly :) [10:17] ls [10:17] anyway... as soon as we have it, i'll give it a spin [10:18] Lathiat: : # . .. HOW-TO-GET-INVOLVED.txt [10:18] dholbach: :) [10:19] ;-) [11:02] are we supposed to be able to create accounts on malone? [11:03] erm... i have one for ages... should be the one you use with the wiki [11:03] d'oh! [11:04] no wonder, I use a different email for that one O:-) [11:04] you can merge accounts on malone as well [11:05] ah. Thanks! :) [11:06] i went through that procedure already ;-) [11:06] is malone slow for you as well? [11:07] i wonder if it's my connection [11:07] it's not noticeably sluggish, no [11:07] ah ok === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-041-134.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === encolpe [~encolpe@l08v-7-11.d2.club-internet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:21] mor... afternoon! [02:21] morning! [02:21] (guh, need sleep) [02:21] hey herve! [02:22] crimsun: good night then :-) [02:22] 'ni :) [02:24] night crimsun [02:25] night ogra :) [02:26] good work in #ubuntu ;) [02:40] crimsun: you do not need sleep [02:40] crimsun: i NEED sleep [02:40] crimsun: paste 3 days partying only 4hrs sleep [02:40] crimsun: feet totaly swallowen [02:41] ... [02:42] dholbach, did you poke elmo about sip-qt3 new binary packages? [02:42] no [02:42] they just magically appear in the archive [02:44] wow wiki/AptGetOrg nearly finished [02:44] i guess i'll be able to write to the list tonight [02:45] crimsun, ping === ogra_ [~ogra@p5089E3FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] er... he meant it when he said good night? :-) [02:52] pals... i'm off [02:52] see you later tonight [02:53] dholbach: gift-fasttrack reverses kazaa/sharman's network [02:53] dholbach: which they arent big fans of. [02:53] tseng: erm? [02:53] tseng: what do you refer to? [02:53] im looking at your list [02:53] AptGetOrg [02:53] comment on it, please [02:53] ill move it to "legal" [02:53] yes [02:53] thanks for that [02:54] i didnt have the time to review and heavily rely on everyone's input [02:54] we'll be there :-) [02:55] tseng: thanks for the "heads up" [02:58] have a nice day everyone === tiil [rtv@magrathea.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] need to catch the train [02:58] *wave* [02:58] ++ [03:12] Amaranth: what happened with your menu editor? [03:14] HostingGeek: Bugs in pyxdg have halted development. [03:14]