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[nrx] heh12:00
airoxbtdownloadheadless would also work12:00
galactusI need some help here, ubuntu did not recognised my sound, from ABIT NF7-S2, what can I do?12:00
[nrx] galactus, www.alsa-project.org12:01
WeirdAlthat's well handy12:01
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WeirdAlcheers xuesheng12:01
galactusthank you nrx12:01
[nrx] np12:01
xueshenghow do you decide which /etc/init.d script gets started on boot up?12:01
[nrx] xuesheng chmod -x /etc/init.d/file12:02
eyequeuexuesheng:  man update-rc.d for explanation12:02
[nrx] removes them from startup12:02
xueshengeyequeue: thanks -- that's what I was looking for12:02
eyequeuenp12:02
xuesheng[nrx] : simple as it could be ;)12:02
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[nrx] yup :)12:03
[nrx] easy peasy12:03
eyequeuexuesheng:  actually, his will disable them completely, not just at startup12:03
osityTemporary failure in name resolution    <------ how do i get rid of this error when trying to restrt ssh12:03
xueshengeyequeue: yeah, I can't /etc/init.d/whatever start if it's -x -- I'll read that mapage for more12:03
eyequeuexuesheng:  +x them again, before going too far :)12:04
[nrx] xuesheng, yeah. -x is a very lazy and sometimes dangerous way of doing it :)12:04
airoxWhy doesn't gdm allow logins with password containing & chars ?12:04
[nrx] im off to bed.12:05
[nrx] nite all12:05
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djpany python programmers here?12:06
dabugasany one know a gnome program capable of handling excel files?12:07
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tvelocitydabugas, openoffice, gnumeric12:08
dabugastvelocity: oh, thanks12:08
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dabugasi'd forgoteen i had openoffice12:08
bi3ztis there somewhere a channel about vsftpd ?12:09
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knoppixI need to grep /dev/hda1. but when I run 'grep foo /dev/hda1', I simply get "binary file /dev/hda1 matches"12:11
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airoxIs there some possiblity to get evolution working with hotmail ? Like it fetches everything from hotmail ??12:13
knoppixairox:  Probably not.12:13
knoppixairox:  But, really, why would you want to use hotmail?12:13
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blueyedsorry, had to restart.. :/ (the CD seemed to hang). Would there be any chance to have some kind of dump? (I was thrown back to some textmode and am using the Live version)12:14
airoxknoppix, I have my reasons (security related).12:14
knoppixAnyone in here familiar with data forensics?12:14
mackidairox, get a gmail account..12:14
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airoxi already got one.12:14
osityairox: do i need to add something to the hosts file for ssh?12:14
airoxand also have other accounts.12:15
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airoxosity, Can you ping google.com for example ?12:15
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airoxosity, What's the contents of the hosts file ?12:16
ositythe internet works on that mahine12:16
calvinanyone else having a problem with Frozen Bubble in Hoary?12:16
osityi just chaged the ip to an internal one.12:16
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knoppixcalvin: try 'killall esd'12:16
osityinstead of DHCP i set it up as manual ....12:16
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phxguyQuestion: has anyone had any success with using thier ipod shuffle with the new version of gtkpod??12:17
calvinknoppix, thx, i tried it but still get "segmentation fault" when i try to run frozen-bubble12:17
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makhey, all, I have the hoary preview, its currently downloading like 306 updates. are those the array 7 updates?12:18
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ositylocal host file just has loopback address12:19
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calvinanyone else able to run Frozen Bubble in Hoary?12:20
blueyedWhat was the player called again? anamarok?12:20
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mjrcalvin, lemme see12:21
bi3ztwho knows vsftpd and can tell me some things  ?12:21
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Sniper^does anybody know if TDA9800 sound chip for FM tuner cards is supported in horray?12:21
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phxguymark, my synapic is only showing 12 update to be done12:22
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confreyhi everybody12:22
airoxbi3zt, hit us/me!12:22
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airoxhi confrey12:22
blueyedah, amarok.12:22
osityairox is it a problem if I change the ip in the network settings?12:22
mdkecan someone give me a hand? I need a list of the dependencies of the package "speedtouch" from universe. Can anyone do this for me? Would appreciate version numbers too, if so please let me know if its hoary or warty12:22
confreywhen will hoary be stable?12:22
calvinapril 6th12:22
calvinlast i heard12:23
makphxguy, are you talking to me?12:23
airoxosity, No.12:23
mjrcalvin, seems to run ok12:23
randabisconfrey, April 6th12:23
blueyedcalvin, is it possible to upgrade from a preview then? or better to have a clean install?12:23
calvinyes, upgrading from preview should be no problem12:23
calvini just upgraded from Warty12:23
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phxguymark you were asking about updates right...... just sayin im only showing 12 updates iz all12:23
calvinthat's the beauty of Debian based systems12:23
randabisyou'd just need to do an apt-get update, followed by an apt-get dist-upgrade12:24
blueyedGreat. I'm enjoying it a lot already! :)12:24
randabisyeah it rocks12:24
calvinyou should never have to reinstall12:24
phxguyOk one more time.....Question: has anyone had any success with using thier ipod shuffle with the new version of gtkpod??12:24
makrandabis, that's all you woudl need to do in warty to get to hoary?12:24
blueyedI did not even install yet.. using the live cd..12:24
calvinalthough on occasion you might find it quicker to reinstall than hunt down a problem...12:24
randabismak, no, you'd need to change /etc/apt/sources.list first12:25
calvinbut i have never resorted to a reinstall12:25
confreyI'm working with qdvdauthor; I think there is  problem; I started the creation of dvd, but nothing happen; top tell me there are two istances of qdvdauthor, about 47% and 46%; what can I do?12:25
makrandabis, would you recommend that at this point? is it stable enough for general use?12:25
randabisdepends on what you mean by stable12:26
makhmm... well, i suppose if they say hoary will be out April the 6th, it might be worth it to wait?12:26
blueyedat least the live cd just hang itself the 2nd time here.12:26
blueyedyes, mak12:26
randabisif you mean, will it crash a lot, then yes, it's perfectly stable, and has been for months12:26
maklol12:27
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randabiserr, I mean that it doesn't crash12:27
makok, that sounds better12:27
randabisI've been using hoary since early february12:27
osityairox it just started working with ssh!! :)  although i did change anything.....12:27
maki have it on my laptop, but it still has issues... like shutting down for one12:28
ubuntoidmak, What kind of issue shutting down?12:28
makubuntoid, it doesnt seem to be able to do that. it just kind of freezes and I just have to hit the power button12:29
ubuntoidmak, Oh, okay... I just installed it on mine, but haven't really gotten to the shutdown point yet12:29
makI'm hoping this set of 306 updates might fix that12:29
phxguywhat iz a kernel panic???12:29
airoxosity, yahoo! :D12:29
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airoxphxguy, It means the computer will blow within 10 seconds.12:30
andrilhello all12:30
airox306 updates ...12:30
phxguylol12:30
airoxwow :D12:30
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airoxhi andril12:30
andrilwho els is liking the new GDM?12:30
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phxguyseriouly though.... I have gotten a coupllle kernel panic when shutting down....12:30
randabisI had 499 updates yesterday12:30
airoxandril, Which new GDM ?12:30
andrilairon: what's up12:30
randabisI hadn't updated this machine in some time though12:31
maki thought 306 was somethign12:31
andrilthe new Hoary GDM setup12:31
airox36 updates waiting for me ...12:31
suposhow can a file that is suid root do something different when run as a regualr user than when run as root?12:31
Zugothoary has been pretty good to me lately12:31
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airoxbut it complains about some eavesdropper because it can't find my mouse :12:31
airox:S12:31
phxguyandril: Whats new about it??? I have it but really notice anything new12:31
makso, does that mean, those are the updates with the current work being done with hoary, or are those just security updates?12:31
Zugotjust wish i could get everything working with amd6412:31
dabugasbuhbye12:31
phxguydidnt notice i mean12:32
conffreyI'm working with qdvdauthor; I think there is  problem; I started the creation of dvd, but nothing happen; top tell me there are two istances of qdvdauthor, about 47% and 46%; what can I do?12:32
osityairox....so now it wont let me transfer files there from a windows client.  Permissions?12:32
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blueyedZugot, what problems do you have with amd64?12:32
Zugotconffrey, you could try searching the qdvdauthor mailing list12:32
airoxosity, You want to use sftp ?12:32
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Zugotblueyed, a few vmware issues...  and i can't use my vpn software.  other than that, it isn't too bad12:33
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osityairox: Im not sure what that is.... im using winscp to login12:33
Zugotblueyed, but i need actually work on this laptop, so i've switched back to x86 for the short term12:33
airoxosity, Could be sftp isn't enabled. Check for sftp in the sshd_config file.12:33
ositywhat is that?12:34
blueyedZugot: ok, I'm waiting for my box to arrive. I suppose you are on Hoary?12:34
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airoxosity, sftp can be disabled.12:34
xueshengis sshd on by default with ubuntu?12:34
Zugotblueyed, of course... the new hoary is pretty good12:34
airoxxuesheng, no.12:34
Zugotxuesheng, openssh-server isn't installed by default12:34
osityxuesheng ...i wish....no12:34
xueshengok, I got a little affraid there :P12:34
airoxhehe12:35
blueyedwhat's kfmclient?12:35
xueshengI'm downloading hoary right now, call me a convert in a few hours...12:35
blueyedamorak uses it as a default browser.12:35
willmmm i like nero linux!12:35
osityairox : where is the sshd_config file.12:36
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airoxosity, /etc/ssh/ :)12:36
elmayanerolinux sucks ass12:36
andrilphxguy: it looks more like Ubuntu is being reborn - beautiful!12:36
knoppixI'm grepping a partition, and I've found the deleted files that I want to recover (they're text files, so they're easy to reconstruct), but I can't figure out how to find the file contents.  grep has found the file names of the deleted files, but nothing more12:36
knoppixelmaya: It's on its first release; it _might_ improve with time.12:37
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BuffaloSoldiergood morning12:37
BuffaloSoldier*yawn*12:37
airoxevening BuffaloSoldier12:37
knoppixAny grep gurus about?12:37
bi3ztdoes every user have his own bash ?12:37
zygabi3zt: ?12:38
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bi3ztand what happens if it gets deleted ?12:38
BuffaloSoldierhi airox12:38
blueyedknoppix, ask.12:38
scottwhere do I find out what the latest version of a package is in ubuntu over the web? (I don't have it installed)12:38
airoxbi3zt, Every user can login and then use bash. It's just a program.12:38
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osityairox : ok ...config fiels open ...what am i looking for?12:38
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knoppixscott: apt-cache policy foo12:38
zygabi3zt: sudo rm `which bash` && bash12:38
airoxbi3zt, It interpretes commands in order to let the user do useful stuff.12:38
knoppixscott: where "foo" == "the name of the program you want"12:38
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bi3ztbut why is it in the home dir of a non priviledged user then ?12:38
airoxbi3zt, The program doesn't reside in the home dir of a non privilideged users.12:39
scottknoppix, I'm not running ubuntu. I'm trying to find out what it has to decide if I want to install it12:39
eyequeuebi3zt:  what is it that you are worried about in your $HOME ?12:39
airox(don't mind my english, to much beer)12:39
geppyscott: Ah, yes.  Are y ourunning Linux, or Windows?12:39
zygabi3zt: it's probably in /bin or /usr/bin12:39
scottgeppy, livecd for gnome2.1012:39
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bi3ztwell i'm trying to fix a ftp server in linux and when i login there is this 2 files with bash in the name12:39
airoxscott, Tried the livecd ?12:39
geppyscott:  I suppose thta you could go to the package lists, and just read through them, in the repositories.12:39
scottso actually, I guess I am actually running ubuntu12:40
airoxbi3zt, You can safely delete them.12:40
eyequeuebi3zt:  and a dot in front, right?12:40
geppyscott: heh =)12:40
bi3zty12:40
zygabi3zt: .bashrc and .bash_profile ? ;] 12:40
scottthere's no package search page?12:40
bi3zty that r them :O12:40
geppyscott: There is, let me look for it.12:40
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makwow,the new updates are pretty sweet12:40
airoxscott, apt-cache search <search term> and there is offcourse synaptic.12:40
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airoxJust get yourself a live cd ;)12:40
airoxand enjoy.12:40
wartyjust a line12:41
eyequeuebi3zt:  your home directory is where you store per-user configuration data12:41
geppyWay to pay attention, airox!12:41
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airoxgeppy, ??12:41
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geppyscott: http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/12:41
eyequeuebi3zt:  those files are your configuration for the shell, not something to worry about12:41
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bi3ztand the shell is the user ?12:41
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thrillerhallo :)12:42
airoxbi3zt, The shell is a program that interprets commands given by the user.12:42
eyequeuebi3zt:  no, the shell is the shelll, the user uses the shell to get things done12:42
maxcheedoes HAL work with kernel 2.4.x?12:42
airoxthriller, hi.12:42
thrilleris anybody German here?12:42
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osityairox : ok ssh config file is open ...what do i change to enable sftp?12:42
bi3ztthat is what i mean, but what did those files do there ?12:42
eyequeuebi3zt:  those files are your configuration for the shell, not something to worry about12:42
osityI can login in but cant copy over files12:42
airoxosity, Check if there is something like /usr/lib/sftp-server12:42
maxcheeare there any virtual pc software that support kernel 2.6 (other than vmware)12:43
Akiragod i hate telus12:43
eyequeuebi3zt:  they store your personal preferences, and modifying them allows you to change the behaviour of the shell12:43
bi3ztis it possible with vsftpd to let a user b somewhere else ?12:43
bi3ztnot in the home ?12:43
eyequeuebi3zt:  read through them and you will see they are not a danger to you12:43
kyncanimaxchee: qemu ?12:43
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maxcheekyncani:performance?12:44
airoxbi3zt, When a user is created unix copies some files from /etc/skel to the new home dir of the user. Those files are part of it on your system.12:44
osityairox : nothing in there like that.  everything seems to be commented12:44
kyncanimaxchee: good12:44
maxcheekyncani: and does it support windows?12:44
maxcheekyncani: does it require i686?12:44
airoxosity, Nice!12:44
kyncanimaxchee: i don't support windows12:44
kyncani:)12:44
airoxosity, Then ubuntu ships a default secure config ;)12:44
maxcheekyncani: it doesn't support hosting windows, right?12:44
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osityhehe12:44
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kbrooksairox, and no, unix does not copy12:44
kyncanimaxchee: qemu does support windows i think (but i don't)12:45
osityso how do I get in there?12:45
airoxkbrooks, ok. adduser does .12:45
airoxosity, add this to sshd_config: Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/ssh/sftp-server12:45
eyequeuebi3zt:  what gave you the idea that those files were a danger to you?12:45
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bi3ztwell : i just don't like having people watch those files :P12:46
shnastybiznasticwhat do I have to add in to the mount command to let users view and read from it?12:46
airoxosity, Check if /usr/lib/ssh/sftp-server exists btw.12:46
eyequeuebi3zt:  watch them?12:46
maxcheeairox?12:46
bi3zthehe12:47
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airoxmaxchee, ?12:47
maxcheeairox: what are you trying to achieve?12:47
eyequeuebi3zt:  iyou can chmod them to 600 if you like, though i don't see why12:47
airoxmaxchee, getting sftp to work ?12:47
kbrooksshnastybiznastic, -o users,uid=username,gid=group12:47
eyequeuebi3zt:  chmod 600 ~/.bash*12:47
kbrooksfill in username and group12:47
eyequeuebi3zt:  no sudo on that12:48
bi3ztk12:48
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kbrooksshnastybiznastic, you might want to add umask=02212:48
eyequeuebi3zt:  then only you can read or write to them12:48
shnastybiznastickbrooks, thanks.  what's the default group id for the user that's created when you install?12:48
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kbrooksshnastybiznastic, *checks*12:48
eyequeueshnastybiznastic:  100012:49
eyequeueshnastybiznastic:  same as uid btw12:49
maxcheecan anyone give me a list of usable pc virtualization softwares that support running windows on linux?12:49
maxcheewith kernel 2.6 and i586 architecture (not i686)12:49
kbrooksmaxchee, qemu, vmware, bochs, plex8612:49
eyequeuewine seems to be the default12:49
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stephen-Hi everyone, I was hoping someone could help me with my partitioning delema.. would you like me to explain?12:50
blueyedmaxchee, Wine is not an emulator and VMWare (or was it Virtual PC)?12:50
kbrookseyequeue, wine isnt pc virtualization sw12:50
eyequeuewtf does that term mean then?12:50
maxcheebluefoxicy: wine is more like an implementation of win32 api on linux12:50
kbrookssw -- software.12:50
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kbrookseyequeue, pc virtualization means like emulating HARDWARE12:51
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osityairox:  i got bad configuration error when restarting ssh....where was I supposed to write that  Subsystem part12:51
eyequeuekbrooks:  he said windows, which isn't hardware12:51
gangalinoI'm having problems getting Totem to work12:52
airoxosity, on a seperate line.12:52
airoxosity, Could you give me the exact error ?12:52
kbrookseyequeue, no, but it means monitor12:52
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kbrooksetc12:52
kbrooksnet card12:52
gangalinoeverytime I start it, I get "Failed to create a GStreamer play object"12:52
kbrooksetc etc etc etc etc12:52
osityI put it right at the bottom of the file....12:52
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eyequeuewindows means monitor?  okay, i don't live on your planet apparently12:53
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airox*sigh*12:53
kbrookseyequeue, grrrrrrrrr12:53
kbrooksno12:53
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airoxslap him kbrooks ! ;)_12:53
kbrookseyequeue, did i imply that? no12:53
osityAirox :    bad configuration option : Susbsystem12:53
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PositronGood evening. :)12:54
airoxosity, Subsystem it is. not Susbsystem12:54
kbrookseyequeue, windows does not mean monitor12:54
airoxevening Positron12:54
eyequeuekbrooks:  desist with the violence, and i'll recommend you reread your own words, goodbye, i don't need this12:54
tritiumhello Positron12:54
Positronhi there!12:54
Positronwhazzup? :)12:54
kbrooksfuck him12:54
PositronMe?12:54
kbrooksno12:54
Positrona.12:54
kbrookseuequeue12:54
airoxPositron, We have some bitch fights.12:54
Positroni se.12:55
airox;)12:55
Positronsee.12:55
Positron:>12:55
osityAirox :    bad configuration option : Subsystem 1 bad configuration option12:55
PositronAnyway, Ive got a problem to resolv. :)12:55
osityi had is spelled right..just a typo in here12:55
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Positronerm, after i set up my chroot environment...12:56
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airoxosity, Have to go now. Just got a word from my boss. Need to work tomorrow.12:56
Positronthere popout a new mount called .dev.12:56
airox:(12:56
Positrondo you know what is all about?12:56
osityok thanks ....have a good weeekend!12:56
airox... ty ;)12:57
airoxHappy easter for some of you!12:57
kbrooksi think ill delete gentoo and free up the space12:57
PositronUbuntu is the right choice! :>12:57
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PositronAnyway, any ideas?12:58
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PositronGonne to /dev/null ?12:58
PositronCmon...stay with me..12:59
xueshengis it possible to play dvds with totem-gstreamer ?12:59
xueshengencrypted ones that is12:59
kbrooksPositron, not daring to make indentical boots12:59
kbrooksPositron, i need another distro!12:59
mjrdih dum, upgrading to hoary on my laptop too...12:59
benjanetwhen i try to burn an audio CD on K3B from mp3, i get a message of "unsupported format". Any ideas ?12:59
kbrookslike...........01:00
kbrookshmmm. brb.01:00
Positron:>01:00
kbrooksif i can boot my fd, then i should be able to neinstall01:00
kbrooksnet*01:00
kbrooksfloppy drive01:00
kbrooksbrb01:00
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PositronUse the force!01:00
makhey, does anyone know what this means? :W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:01
kbrooksmak: run apt-get update01:01
makok01:01
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ellstritium: I need a little assistance01:02
gangalinoanyone got Totem running?01:02
tritiumells, what's up?01:02
pvoceanyone else run into this with nvidia-glx drivers?  "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0""01:02
ellstritium: I reparitioned and installed and the video card is not set up right01:03
tritiumells, which one?  I forget what you have.01:03
ellstritium: nvidia01:03
tritiumit seems everyone and their brother is having nvidia trouble today01:03
pvocetritum: no kidding01:03
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tritiumpvoce, but I'm not...01:04
ellstritium: I hear ya01:04
tritiumcalvin was in here earlier with the same problem as pvoce01:04
tritiumells, are you having pvoce's problem also?01:04
ellstritium: whats his problem01:04
tritiumells, scroll up01:04
PositronHeyho, is it normal to have a directory called /.dev after dchroot intallation?01:05
pvoceI dbt think its xog.conf, as both load dri and load glx are uncommented01:05
ellstritium: I cant, I just got onhere01:05
pvoceer...xorg.conf01:05
tritiumoh, yeah, I see now01:05
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ellstritium: what was his issue01:06
ellstritium: the resolution seems to be set low or something01:06
tritiumpvoce, care to share it again?01:06
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mjrPositron, yeah, it's basically the /dev before udev takes over01:06
pvocesure..I get the following error when initiated some applications:01:07
pvoceXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"01:07
ellstritium: can you help me fix it01:08
pvoceboth "load dri" and "load glx" are uncommented, and both nvidia kernel source and driver are same versin01:08
tritiumells, possibly01:08
ellstritium: what should I do first01:08
tritiumpvoce, usually you comment out "GLcore" and "dri"01:09
blueyedanyone using amarok? it has a "Engine" config tab, but there are no engines in the dropdown (like xine or gstreamer).01:09
tritiumells, but you can't get into a gnome-session?01:09
ellstritium: I am logged in, but the resolution seems low01:09
xueshengblueyed: are there no amarok-engine packages?01:09
Positronmjr: Ok, tnx. I'm just asking beacause after I've rebooted i couldn't login with normal user...and that /.dev (which wasn't there before) was really suspicous. :)01:09
Zugotwhats the newest nvidia module version?01:10
tritiumpvoce, that error is in your /var/log/Xorg.0.conf?01:10
tritium662901:10
Zugotdamn... i still gotta wait01:10
tritiumno biggie01:10
ellstritium: how can I up the resolution01:10
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tritiumZugot, it's not like something is wrong with it01:11
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|QuaD-april first is almost upon us01:11
WeirdAlwhat?01:11
tritiumells, I don't suppose you backed up your old xorg.conf ?01:11
WeirdAlWhy?01:11
blueyedxuesheng, I've seen the the last time, but must have been from universe probably.01:11
rowanHey guys, remember my troubles? Permission problems and the like after a fresh install?01:11
ellstritium: nope, I did a total reinstall, sorry01:11
Zugottritium, yes there is something wrong with it... it doesn't display 1280x800 on my laptop01:11
tritiumells, you're the reinstall master ;)01:11
ellstritium: wish I would have though01:11
ellstritium: this is the lsat01:12
tritiumells, okay, paste it on pastebin01:12
ellsokay01:12
rowanWell, I managed to find another copy of Ubuntu, this one of a mag cover cd. It has exactly the same problems as my other copies...01:12
ellstritium: sorry to ask, but where is it kep01:12
ellskept01:12
tritiumells, /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:12
pvoceTritoch|L: its not showing....I just get a "Cant Creaet Window...exiting" error01:12
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tritiumpvoce, I never got a reply from you01:12
rowanAnyone think of a reason I might be having these problems?01:13
ellstritium: pastebin.org?01:13
Jentoo000i havent went in my ubuntu for a while now.. lol did the new release come out yet?01:13
tritiumells, please01:13
tritiumJentoo000, not until April01:13
pvocesheesh...I cant type tontie:(01:13
rowanGnome fails to log me in because it doesn't have permission to write to my home directory01:13
ellstritium: okay01:13
WeirdAlhave people been talking to me or something?01:14
Jentoo000tritium: i think im going to try to install wine ;)01:14
tritiumells, poor AZ has to play Illinois now01:14
Jentoo000tritium: I'm a newbie but i know what im doing01:14
tritiumJentoo000, you might like wine and winetools off of winehq01:14
ellstritium: they are playing now01:14
rowanJentoo000, you stuck on Optus shit-band too?01:14
tritiumJentoo000, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb01:14
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tritiumells, I know01:14
Jentoo000rowan: lol why is it shit?01:14
pvoceTritoch|L: do I need to comment out the "load glx" statement ?01:14
tritiumpvoce, no, you need that one01:15
rowanJentoo000, because I only get 3.5KB/s01:15
Jentoo000i have optus cable01:15
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pvocetritium: I thought so01:15
blueyedxuesheng, I think it's bad to have amarok packages in the default repositories, but the engine in universe..01:15
ellstritium: it is there01:15
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tritiumells, url?01:15
rowanJentoo000, so am I.01:15
ellssorry01:16
Jentoo000my limits finished :(01:16
Jentoo000where do i open up  Synaptic01:16
tritiumpvoce, I had asked if that error was in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.01:16
ellshttp://www.pastebin.com/26317001:16
rowananyone give me any advice?..01:16
Jentoo000tritium: where do i open up Synaptic01:17
tritiumJentoo000, are you on Hoary?  I don't remember for Warty.01:17
ellstritium: did you see the url01:17
Jentoo000umm i forgot i think warty01:17
tritiumJentoo000, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager in hoary01:17
tritiumJentoo000, if you're in Warty, look under Computer01:17
tritiumells, yes, just multitasking ;)01:18
Jentoo000im just going to do it by console01:18
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ellstritium: cool01:19
tritiumells, 8 to 401:19
ellstritium :sorry01:19
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tritiumells, first, you're using the "nv" rather than "nvidia" module01:19
calvinso anyone have any ideas why i might be getting a "segmentation fault" trying to run Frozen Bubble?01:19
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ellstritium: how to fix01:20
calvini'm starting to suffer from withdrawal01:20
tritiumcalvin, any luck with nvidia?  pvoce is having similar troubles01:20
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tritiumells, drop down to a v.c.01:20
=== Guilmon pets nvidia card, works wonderfully
ellsokay01:20
grogoreohi01:20
Guilmonand the nvidia driver :)01:21
makanyone know why i'm not able to get 'acroread' in hoary?01:21
rowanAnyone know why after a fresh install the user created at startup doesn't have write permissions on their home directory?01:21
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grogoreoi have a Radeon 9600 pro card and want to know how I can get the drivers working for it. Can I use apt?01:21
rowanThis has hapened on all three of my copeis of ubuntu01:21
tritiummak, you need ftp.nerim.net repository.  see ubuntuguide.org for more info01:21
makok. thanks01:22
tritiumsure01:22
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funkyhi01:22
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funkywhere must i set the modules that i want to load at boot time ?01:22
Guilmon1650FPS with my GeforceFX 5200 card :)01:22
Guilmonusing default size of the window01:23
tritiumfunky, /etc/modules01:23
Guilmonoh excuse me.. 1722 FPS01:23
yahalomi installed kernel 2.6.11-1-386 and now everytime i log in it freezes, i'm in failsafe mode now01:23
yahalomcan someone help me?01:23
grogoreohow can i see if I am using XFree86 or Xorg?01:23
tritiumyahalom, 2.6.10-5 is the latest supported kernel01:23
funkytritium: thanks01:23
yahalomtritium: so how do i revert what i did?01:23
tritiumyahalom, what architecture are you on?01:24
tritiumfunky, sure01:24
yahalomtritium: how do i uninstall 2.6.1101:24
yahalom38601:24
tritiumyahalom, let's first install a new kernel01:24
St0n3-C0lyahalom: Same problem here :)01:24
St0n3-C0lUse default one01:24
St0n3-C0lthats better01:24
yahalomok01:24
tritiumyahalom, sudo apt-get install linux-38601:24
rowanin 30 seconds I'm going to wipe Ubuntu and install Fedora... there is no point hanging around using a system that doesn't install correctly.01:24
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yahalomtritium01:24
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tritiumrowan, it does install correctly01:25
yahalomi'm using xchat from the console01:25
tritiumwhat's the problem?01:25
yahalomhow can i open a new console so i can do the commands?01:25
tritiumyahalom, can you switch to another?01:25
Skaaathis question is not related to ubuntu, but I need help resolving a seperate problem dealing with dual monitors01:25
rowantritium, yes, from three diff CDs, all have the same troubles on first boot01:25
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tritiumyahalom, you're not in X?01:25
tritiumrowan, did you check their md5sums?01:25
yahalomtritium: no, x freezes01:25
yahalomtritium: i'm in failsafe mode01:25
rowanEh?01:26
umibozuthere are xfce4 packages for hoary ?01:26
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tritiumyahalom, okay.  Alt-RightArrow to get to the next V.C.01:26
Skaaacan someone assits me with a problem I am having with dual monitors?01:26
tritiumor Ctrl-Alt-F2, or F3-F601:26
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tritiumrowan, when you downloaded the .iso images, did you verify that the md5sum was correct?01:27
rowantritium, two of the CDs where ordered from the ubuntu site, and one is a cover cd from a mag.01:27
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tritiumrowan, okay01:27
inter_I moved my harddrives from SATA to regular IDE last night and have been unable to get linux to boot properly after the switch.  Does anyone have suggestions on what I can do to get linux to boot again? (updated fstab and grub already)01:27
yahalomtritium: its not doing anything01:27
tritiumrowan, perhaps you need a kernel boot paramater such as noacpi or noapic01:27
pvoceok...back01:27
pvocetritium: where were we?:)01:27
yahalomtritium: i think i tried installing the kernel again as u mentioned and it told me that i already have the latest one01:27
tritiumyahalom, oh, right, you're in single-user mode01:27
tritiumpvoce, one momnt01:27
tritiummoment01:27
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yahalomtritium: yep01:28
ellstritium: do you want me to let it autodetect01:28
rowantritium, what do they do?01:28
tritiumyahalom, when you quit xchat, do this:  sudo apt-get install linux-38601:28
pvocetritium: np01:28
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yahalomtritium: is it possible that when i'll do that it will say that i already have the latest version?01:28
tritiumrowan, noacpi disables acpi.  nolapic disables local apic.  You say it just freezes when booting?01:29
tritiumyahalom, I don't know.  Do you have 2.6.10-5 installed?01:29
tritiumpvoce, so what's your status?01:29
yahalomtritium: it was my previous kernel, then i update to 2.6.11-101:29
rowantritium, no... it never freezes. There are permission errors once they are sorted out the gnome desktop is all barfed, only 3 fonts are usable01:29
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tritiumyahalom, there are no linux-restricted-modules-2.6.11, so it's not really supported, especially if you need nvidia or ati01:30
pvocetritium: nothings changed. Still the same "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." error01:30
tritiumyahalom, I'd just dpkg --purge it01:30
tritiumpvoce, okay, sorry...01:30
ellstritium: do you want me to enable the kernel framebuffer01:30
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tritiumrowan, I've never heard of that happening to anybody so far01:31
Tekmavenhey guys01:31
tritiumells, no01:31
rowan:(01:31
Jentoo000i tried editing my nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and this came up E: Malformed line 21 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)01:31
Jentoo00001:31
ellsokay01:31
yahalomtritium: what do u mean? i dont know ho wto use the dpkg command t remove things ;(01:31
tritiumJentoo000, you have a syntax error somewhere01:31
Tekmavengot a quick questoin about apt/dpkg/etc01:31
tritiumyahalom, how about apt-get remove --purge linux-2.6.1101:31
Jentoo000tritium: man how am i going to fix it now01:31
tritium(provide the correct package name)01:32
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tritiumJentoo000, paste is on pastebin and somebody can help you find the error01:32
Jentoo000pastebin?01:32
ellstritium: should I enable the GLCore by default01:32
tritiumells, no!01:32
yahalomtritium: k man. i'll try it, if not i'll be back. thanx. i appreciate it01:32
ellstritium: cool01:32
tritiumells, no GLcore and no dri01:32
rowantritium, I'm going to install Fedora, I don't think there is much chance of this working. Perhaps next release.01:32
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tritiumrowan, you might want to try the latest Hoary install CDs rather than that Warty CD you have01:33
Tekmavenmono and all of its various packages are the stable 1.0.x version in the Ubuntu repositories... but i'm running a CVS version of mono... and I'd liek to install an app that depends on mono, and of course apt wants to install the older version of mono01:33
ellstritium: okay01:33
Jentoo000tritium: whats a pastebin?01:33
maktritium, my update manager now has a couple of 'woody' packages. is it wise not to get those?01:33
tritiumells, you need to provide all the resolutions you want, too01:33
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rowantritium, I have to wait for a hard copy to be available01:33
tritiumJentoo000, www.pastebin.org01:33
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Tekmavenis there a way that i can mark the mono packages as installed, but not actually install them?01:33
tritiumit's a website for pasting things so we can review them01:33
tritiumrowan, sorry...01:33
rowantritium, thanks anyhow, later01:33
Jentoo000tritium: sites under construction01:33
tritiummak, like Acrobat 7.001:34
tritium?01:34
Tekmaveni believe it's www.pastebin.com01:34
Tekmavenlol01:34
tritiumTekmaven, thanks01:34
FishCrossingyeah, I already have windows xp on my computer, im gonna partition the hard drive so ubuntu can use 30 gigs, do I need to use a bootloader? Or can i just partition, pop in the cd, istall, and have dual os's?01:34
knoppixIs it possible to tell grep to being its selection with a certain string, and end it with another?01:34
maktritium, libdv401:34
tritiummak, one second01:34
knoppixas far as I can tell, you can only start the selection with a certain string, and then set the length to be selected (in lines)01:34
Jentoo000so i write down what the problem is??01:35
makit says New version: 0.103-woody201:35
Jentoo000and ill get a response?01:35
TekmavenFishCrossing: ubuntu includes the "GRUB" bootloader, you should be fine.01:35
dex1Hi, I'm still struggling with the Ubuntu install. I was in here yesterday and've now managed to reboot after the custom install (custom becaus it's an old system w/small HD & low RAM). I'm trying to follw this guide: http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html. The pacakage installing part "apt get ..." threw me as the PC has no modem connection. But someone in here pointed me to a repository and I now have the pacakges (deb files) burned on CD; 01:35
FishCrossingSo, I just partition, pop in the cd, restart, follow instructions, and all will be well?01:35
ellstrituim: I started it over, cause I think I enabled something I shouldnt have. should the memory in kb, be 6400001:35
tritiummak, yeah, those are in ubuntu main01:35
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makso they're ok01:36
tritiummak perhaps you're not using the right repo01:36
Tekmavencan anyone address my question?01:36
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makwell, i think i'll hold off on  them for now01:36
Tekmavenmono and all of its various packages are the stable 1.0.x version in the Ubuntu repositories... but i'm running a CVS version of mono... and I'd liek to install an app that depends on mono, and of course apt wants to install the older version of mono... is there a way that i can mark the mono packages as installed, but not actually install them?01:36
dex1I googled for help and it suggested "mount /mt/cdrom" but I just get "mount: can't find /mt/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab".01:36
ellstritium: I hear ya01:36
Tekmavendex1: you need to tell mount where to mount the cdrom ;-)01:36
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dex1tek: Ah, thank you.01:37
tritiumells, the important things are documented in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz01:37
ellsokay01:37
tritiumells, and http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto/01:37
dex1tek: Anytime you feel like giving more specific info is good for me. *grin*01:37
bleb_hi, does hoary support pcmcia network swapping as easily as, say, winslows XP? (and how is it possible to make it "scan new hardware" after the installation?)01:37
Tekmavendex1: try: mkdir /mnt/cdrom01:37
Tekmaventhen01:37
pvoceugh...I think I found it...the dang card is listed as PCI, even though its an AGP card01:37
Tekmavenmount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom01:37
dex1Ubuntu is really not as user-friendly (at least on older PCs) as I'd hoped. Okay, trying those mount commands now :)01:38
tritiumpvoce, no, that's fine01:38
Tekmaventhen, ls /mnt/cdrom and you should see the cdrom files :-)01:38
knoppixIf noone here can help, is there somewhere where I could go for help with grep?01:38
pvoceugh...then why does it crated whenever I hit the OpenGL?01:38
knoppixe.g. and IRC channel01:38
tritiumknoppix, man grep?01:38
bleb_thoughts?01:39
dex1bingo01:39
knoppixtritium:  Been there. =/01:39
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dex1:)01:39
ellstritium:  Write default DRI section to configuration file?01:39
knoppixtritium:  I'm wondering if it's possible to do a to-from type thing with grep.01:39
tritiumells, go for it01:39
knoppixtritium:  I'm grepping for a string, but I want to be able to take output all the way up to the time a next string is found.01:39
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knoppixtritium:  What do I need to do to do that?01:40
yahalomtritium: thanx man it worked. really appreciate it. saved all my work and now my wife wont kill me either. be well ;)01:40
dex1I see the files listed that're on the CD. Is there a sort've wildcard option to install all packages there on the CD?01:40
ellstritium I will restart now01:40
tritiumells, okay.  I'll get going soon.  If I don't see you, take care.01:40
tritiumells, bookmark that URL!  ;)01:40
ellsokay, cool01:40
willhow do i remove all the kubuntu stuff through synaptic?01:40
tritiumknoppix, sorry, I am on my way out the door.  I suggest you read the manpage more carefully01:41
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scottanyone know what the root password is on the ubuntu livecd?01:41
|QuaD-will: i can tell you how to do it through apt01:41
knoppixThis answer isn't in the manpage.  I'm assuming that grep doesn't have this functionality.01:42
will|QuaD-: yes thanks that works for me!01:42
Jentoo000with the pastebin site do i just copy paste my error or do i explain my error/01:42
knoppixdoes anyone know of a program that I could use to make a selection between "string1" and "string2" from input?01:42
dex1scott, trying both just pressing enter and also using the password that you set for the user pwd when it asked01:42
scottdexl, this is the gnome 2.10 live cd actually, and it never asks for a user pwd01:42
dex1It asks me and then after a few times one of those works01:43
|QuaD-will: sudo apt-get remove kdelibs401:43
dex1scott: Then ignore my advice. :)01:43
dex1ls01:43
knoppixscott:  Does sudo not "just work"?01:43
dex1oops01:43
bleb_does hoary support pcmcia network swapping as easily as winXP? (and how is it possible to make it "scan new hardware" after the installation?)01:43
knoppixscott:  I haven't used it, but, obviously, I'm on knoppix right now, and sudo "just works" on knoppix01:43
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pvocebrb...restarting X01:44
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bleb_anyone?01:44
blueyeddoes synaptic put logfiles somewhere?01:45
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blueyedI've installed amarok without universe repository and though it depends on amarok-engines this had not been installed..!?01:45
geneo93var log ?01:45
blueyedthis is a bug isn't it?01:45
dex1So having mounted the CD in the drive using mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom (having made a directory with mkdir /mnt/cdrom), I can list the files on that CD via ls /mnt/cdrom - the dev files. Is there a way I can install them all with a wildcard option or something? "install /mnt/cdrom *.*" or suchlike?01:46
geneo93no you need depends01:46
dex1*deb not dev01:46
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blueyedgeneo93, what do you mean?01:46
dex1ls01:47
geneo93you cant install sonething without all the libs and other things it needs01:47
WeirdAlCan someone give me an example of how to add a new launcher to my Applications > System tools menu in Hoary purleeze?01:47
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WeirdAlI believe it's different from warty01:48
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FishCrossingdo you need a bootloader if you install ubuntu on a windows pc01:48
FishCrossing?01:48
WeirdAlNo01:48
WeirdAlWell you do, but it'll install GRUB for you01:48
blueyedbut it installed amarok and amarok-arts, but amarok also depends on amarok-engines, geneo93.01:48
geneo93FishCrossing:  yes01:48
blueyedSo this looks like a bug, doesn't it?01:49
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geneo93well you need the other files it requires01:49
FishCrossing so if I have a partition for ubuntu, I install ubuntu to that partition, and I follow all the directions properly, everything should work?01:49
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WeirdAlScratch the system tools thing -- it's already there! :)01:50
geneo93FishCrossing:  yes01:50
eruinWeirdAl: in the future01:51
eruin, /usr/share/applications/ is the place to look01:51
FishCrossingand when I partition i have to partition it to be a FAT32 partition?01:51
WeirdAlthanks01:52
dex1fish, not the linux one no01:52
geneo93FishCrossing:  ext3 but the installer will do that for you01:52
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blueyedCan I use different locales / languages for different users when I install Ubuntu?01:52
FishCrossingthe installer will partition for me?01:52
dex1gene is correct.01:52
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dex1fishcr. yes.01:52
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geneo93dex1:  dont you know about tab complete01:53
SiRrUsgood evening guys01:53
dex1geneo: My experience with *nix period let alone just Ubuntu began ... yesterday.01:53
dex1Hence my installation questions. :)01:54
geneo93well most irc clients do it01:54
dex1I did the same thing as Fish was trying to do though (dual boot partitions)01:54
calcwelcome to eunuchs01:54
bur[n] eranyone know how to get the gaim away window to minimize?01:54
dex1gene: you lost me sry.01:54
geneo93dex1:  i have 7 oses on this box01:54
dex1I'm using Trillian on a Windows platform anyway.01:55
geneo93well that should support tab complete01:55
dex1which IS?01:55
mackidgeneo93, 7 OS's?01:55
geneo93mackid  yes01:56
SiRrUsgeneo93 which ones01:56
geneo934 nix and 2 beos and win98se01:56
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mackidgeneo93, wow.. lol.  get rid of win98se :-P.. win2k is the only way to go if you NEED windoze01:56
mackid=P01:57
CarlKis there a .deb for webmin?01:57
geneo93suse mandrake slack ubuntu phosb5 and R501:57
DemonTears_anyone know how to print arabic font ?01:57
eruinhow about apt-get install webmin? :P01:57
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geneo93mackid:  not for me i dont use it much01:57
crimsungeneo93: sorry, not familiar with Kppp01:57
CarlKthat better not work...01:57
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eruinCarlK: it's in universe01:58
nickwebhey guys and gals.. does anyone know how to register for the shipit section?01:58
CarlKhmm, I thought I had that enabled01:58
geneo93crimsun:  is there a way to see output after connect01:58
crimsungeneo93: for...?01:58
FishCrossingwait, so I dont have to do anything in windows xp? I can just download the disk image to my windows xp desktop, burn the disk image, restart my computer, follow instructions, and i'll be able to have to os's?01:58
CarlKguess not - thanks eruin01:59
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geneo93crimsun:  after it connects it disconnects01:59
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pepsiping01:59
CarlKpug01:59
geneo93then redials03:00
thingyFishCrossing, i assume your not talking about using the live cd and so please back up anything you value in windows xp before you go on with the installation.03:00
crimsungeneo93: check /var/log/daemon.log03:00
geneo93k03:00
geneo93i've been using pon and poff03:00
FishCrossingbut if everything goes right should it work that way?03:00
WeirdAlcan anyone tell me: a) should qtparted be able to resize NTFS partitions and b) if not, what can I use instead?03:01
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dex1So now I'm at the point (post reboot after custom install) where I have the packages [.deb ]  on CD and can show the files on it via ls /mnt/cdrom. How do I install them all?  :/ The tutorial I was following was for a connected PC so I had to divert from the whole apt get thing.03:01
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crimsunWeirdAl: there's ntfsresize, but I can't recommend it.  It would be safer to boot using a Partition Magic boot disk.03:01
geneo93WeirdAl:  use diskdrake03:01
mackidnothing in windows xp should be valued.. pft.03:01
|QuaD-would it be useful to make a apt plugin for beagle?03:01
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WeirdAlI can use a PM disk but most of my friends can't...03:01
WeirdAlI'll look into diskdrake.03:01
dex1mack: His documents sharing the XP partition are probably valued by him.03:01
WeirdAl:-)03:02
crimsun|QuaD-: I'm sure _someone_ would find it useful.03:02
mackiddex1: okay, fair enough03:02
dtsi have a laptop and i want to boot the live cd but it doesn't boot on my external cd drive03:02
|QuaD-crimsun: hmm, maybe once the developers put beagle in, thats what i will make03:02
WeirdAlIs it in a repository?03:02
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geneo93dts:  doesn't f12 give you boot options03:03
scottdoes the ubuntu install cd come with anythign that can resize fat32 partitions?03:03
nickwebdts, does you're motherboard support booting from external devices?03:03
geneo93scott:  yes03:03
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blueyedHow can I get the build of Ubuntu?03:03
dex1My guess of "install /mnt/cdrom/*.*" doesn't work for the deb files on the CD. It complains the last argument isn't a directory.03:04
WeirdAlThe flamin' diskdrake site's not working.03:04
dtsgeneo93, nickweb i tried all kinds of boot options and it supports to boot of it03:04
Zugotthat status of beagle is still up in the air03:04
dtsthe kernel loads but it can't access the cd drive03:04
scottgeneo93, what?03:04
Zugotcool concept... not stable enough to be practical yet03:04
nickwebdts, i have had similar problems (different distros tho).. Download something called Smart Boot Manager03:04
nickweband boot from the floppy, then select youre external drive..03:04
dex1blueeyed: http://www.ubuntu.com/download03:05
geneo93qparted scott03:05
calcinstall is not for packages03:05
blueyeddex1, I want to know the build number/version I'm actually using.03:05
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scottgeneo93, so during the ubuntu install it will run qparted and I can resize my windows partition before installing ubuntu?03:05
nickwebdts, http://btmgr.webframe.org/03:05
dtsnickweb, the problem is not that the kernel wont boot but the program tries to populate from the boot cd from hd[a-d] 03:05
calcits part of coreutils its mean to copy files directly03:05
geneo93yes scott03:05
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calcs/mean/meant/03:06
WeirdAlgeneo93, can you suggest somewhere to get diskdrake other than linux-mandrake.com/diskdrake? I can't seem to find it.03:06
dtsnickweb, do you understand what i mean? I can actually load the kernel and i get a basic prompt from the cd03:06
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dtsnickweb, but it doesn't mount /dev/sda and load it03:06
geneo93scott just hope you know how03:06
dex1calc: The tutorial [http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html]   mnadated I use apt-get install blahpackagename. Being as that PC has no modem connection I instead had to burn the .deb packages onto CD on anbother PC and the CD's now in the drive of the installation PC.03:06
dex1But although I can ls /mnt/cdrom the files I can't install them03:07
dex1any ideas?03:07
crimsundoes /mnt/cdrom have a Packages.gz ?03:07
geneo93dext it not mnt its media03:08
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dex1crimsun: not that I know of?03:08
calcdex1: ah i thought you meant just "install"03:08
Artanisthis is interesting. my videolan client shows the video, but without sound, and totem plays sound and doesnt show the video03:08
calcdex1: install the program is not part of apt-get03:09
calcapt-get install is different03:09
geneo93dex1:  did you do apt-get addcdrom03:09
WeirdAlcrimsun, how risky is ntfsresize?03:09
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geneo93WeirdAl:  you can loose all03:09
dex1calc: I do want to install them. From the CD. So that I'm done with the CD with the six deb files on. :( But no matter how many times I try to RTFM through Google, the Ubunti wiki etc. I get nowhere. I can't use apt-get because the installation PC has no modem connection. It's an old PC hence the low RAM custom install :(03:10
crimsunWeirdAl: I can't speak for its stability, but someone I know was careless with it and destroyed his ntfs partition.03:10
WeirdAloh. I don't want that then.03:10
crimsunWeirdAl: then again, if one is careless with any tool, it can be detrimental.03:10
WeirdAlI'm getting a 550 error when I try to get diskdrake, and I can only seem to find one source for it :-(03:10
kdphas anyone noticied that gconf is beginning to resemble a registry?03:11
geneo93kdp:  i dont use it03:11
kdpis it only a gnome thing?03:12
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geneo93yes i use kubuntu03:12
dex1heneo: No, the apt-get command won't help since that PCs not connected to the 'net or online period. I've mounted the CD - the CD I burned with the deb files on it but have no idea how to install the darn things03:12
dex1*geneo03:12
calcdex1: there are cdrom lines for the apt sources.list file03:13
geneo93dex1:  you dont need connection for apt to work if files are local03:13
calcbut if it is just a cd you burned with random debs that won't work03:13
calcyou would need to use dpkg -i03:13
kdpa very disturbing development....03:14
dex1cacl: it is just a CD I burned with random debs, yep. Those cited in the guide for older PCs needing a low diskspace/RAM install03:14
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dex1"dpkg -i /mnt/cdrom/*.*" or something?03:14
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geneo93dex1:  dpkg -i filename03:15
slurpasi cant play any .mp3 or .avi files with xmms or totem.. maby i need some codex.. can i apt-get them?03:15
geneo93cd into that dir03:15
calcif you used dpkg-scanpackages or apt-ftparchive you could setup a repo on your hd that you could at and use apt-get03:16
kdpslurpas: with the marillat repo03:16
dex1does it allow wildcards like *.deb? The filenames are long, basically there's six on the CD plus a further bunch in a subdirectory of the same CD.03:16
calcslurpas: install totem-xine from universe03:16
calcdex1: tab completion works as well03:16
geneo93calc:  he needs to get them off cdrom03:16
dex1Cool, I'm in the /mnt/cdrom directory now.03:16
calcdex1: eg type dpkg -i (first letter)[tab] 03:16
shank_hi calc03:16
dex1calc: I have no idea what tab completion means sorry.03:17
calcdex1: hit tab03:17
calcactually on a empty line hit tab twice and see what it does03:17
slurpashmm..03:17
slurpasapt-get install totem-xine ?03:17
dex1On the PC I'm typing this on (ie. the one w/out ubuntu on it). ok, after the colon: _d4vid03:17
geneo93dex1:  put a few of the first letters in name of03:17
calcthen try a[tab] 03:17
slurpas*noob*03:17
kdpslurpas: just installing totem-xine wont get you proprietary codecs03:18
calcwell probably a then two tabs to make it complete03:18
kdpsee the ubuntu wiki page for more03:18
calckdp: it won't?03:18
calcxine plays them03:18
slurpasok..03:18
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kdpcalc: didnt work for me....03:18
calckdp: hmm ok03:18
slurpasso there is no "all package codec" ? :(03:18
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kdpthere is...in the marillat repo03:18
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slurpaswhat is that?03:18
kdpsee the ubuntu wiki page, search for "restricted formats"03:19
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slurpasthx03:19
kdpcalc: me too.....03:19
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Uscfanhey everyone03:19
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dex1Seems to be working . It did something anyway when I tabbed after the letter 'i'. It complained errors were encountred with uninstalled libs though. ah well. I'll try playing around with it03:19
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andy__gday everyone..how do i delete a folder that says i am not the owner03:20
kdpthe regular repos only support free codecs, right? so that would mean mp3, a proprietary codec, wouldnt be in universe or multivetrse03:20
calckdp: i don't have anything special installed other than totem-xine here03:20
kdpthats weird......03:20
Uscfani am a linux nurdnoob and i wanna know if anyone knows how to make gnome sexy!03:20
geneo93dex1:  you need the libs installed first03:20
Uscfani am familiar with kde, but like, what is metacity and all that03:20
calci probably can't play dvd's though ;)03:20
kdpcalc: yeah, ud need libdvdcss203:20
calckdp: yep i know, i noticed i didn't have that installed which is why i doubt i can play dvd :)03:21
kdpdamn U.S. govt!03:21
calcbut i can play mp3/divx/etc03:21
geneo93kdp:  get it anyway03:21
VjazUscfan: Metacity is the GNOME window manager03:21
kdphahaha i did03:21
kdpa long time ago03:21
kdpjust a random damnation03:21
Uscfanok so gnome is not a window manager?03:22
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geneo93kdp:  may need dvdread also03:22
kdpuscfan: correct, gnome is a desktop environment03:22
sharpi'm having trouble with getting wireless to work03:22
Uscfanoh yeah, my friend thinks that gnome is pronounced gah-nome03:22
Uscfanisnt it like garden gnome03:22
kdpgeneo93: i have dvds workingg :-)03:22
calcUscfan: it is03:22
geneo93ahh ok03:22
calcUscfan: er gah-nome03:22
Uscfanit is?03:22
Uscfanguhnome03:23
kdpnow, y would it be pronounced that way.....so weird03:23
calcthough i like garden gnome better ;)03:23
Uscfanme too03:23
calcits pronounced like gnu03:23
calcsince it stands for gnu ....03:23
kdplol03:23
calcgnu network object model environment (iirc)03:23
Uscfangnu is not gnome03:23
kdpgnu's not unix!03:23
geneo93kinda like knife03:23
Uscfangnu is like new03:23
calcand gnu is prounouced gah -new03:23
sharpubuntu freese at "* Configuring network interfaces"... what should i do03:23
Uscfang is silent03:23
Uscfanreally?03:23
kdpwait, really to who03:24
Uscfanok so enough of this weird talk lmao03:24
Anubisdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main are these dead?03:24
crimsungnu-like, like calc said.03:24
Uscfanmy laptop will not install gnome03:24
crimsunguh-new03:24
xueshengdo you get that annoying popup dialog when running the root terminal in hoary?03:24
Uscfanit freezes at some sort of ACPI something orother03:24
Uscfanit doesnt even get to the installer03:24
Uscfan:(03:24
DemisMand latex is pronounce latech :(03:24
Uscfanand i have about 150 ubuntu cd;s i cant even install it03:24
Uscfanoops03:24
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DemisMI pronounce it lateks03:24
kdp.......150?03:24
syn-ackIts La Tech03:25
Servo888Doesn't ubuntu have a gui installer? The debian one works fine, but just thought it would have something better =\03:25
syn-ackwith a hard a03:25
UscfanOk correction, I cannot install UBUNTU, my laptop freezes during the boot before the installer at some sort of Power something or other, any ideas? will the latest version of ubuntu (5.x)work???03:25
crimsunServo888: ubuntu's installer is based on debian sarge's03:25
WeirdAlcrimsun, is ntfsresize what it uses when you edit the partition tables at install time?03:25
crimsunUscfan: tried the hoary preview?03:25
Uscfanno ma'am03:25
Servo888crimsun, yup that's what it looks like.03:26
WeirdAlThe website suggests it is but I'm not sure if I'm understanding it correctly.03:26
calcUscfan: have you updated the bios on your laptop if available/03:26
Uscfanwhat improvments does hoary have03:26
calcUscfan: many laptop bios are crummy03:26
WeirdAlAnd I know that warty didn't support it.03:26
Uscfancalc: mine is kinda crummy too, compaq 2195US but compaq's have tons of problems anyway03:26
kdpUscfan: ooooooo let me count the ways...a biggie: more updated packages03:26
crimsunWeirdAl: hoary has apci updates03:26
Uscfanlol03:26
calcUscfan: compaq regularly update their bios so they may have better ones03:26
crimsunWeirdAl: err, sorry03:26
Uscfanok ill give hoardy a try, but the sad thing is is have around 250 ubuntu CD's03:27
crimsunUscfan: hoary has acpi updates03:27
WeirdAlIt happens.03:27
Uscfanof the origional warty03:27
kdpwait, you went from 150 to 25003:27
Uscfanoriginal*03:27
Uscfani kow03:27
kdpthats quite alot03:27
Uscfani have 150 x8603:27
Uscfanor 170 i think03:27
calcUscfan: give them to other people, warty works on plenty of systems out there03:27
kdpr u @ USC?03:27
Uscfanand then PPC and AMD03:27
kdpand distributing them?03:27
Uscfanno im nto at usc, i am just north of LA03:27
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Uscfani want to distribute them, but where03:27
kdphahaha, try USC?03:28
calcUscfan: at your LUG?03:28
Uscfanlol i wish i had a lug03:28
kdpcolleges03:28
calcor compsci classes, etc03:28
Uscfanw0ot i shall give them away03:28
geneo93Uscfan:  take them to the library03:28
calcUscfan: usc doesn't have a lug?03:28
Uscfani dont go to usc03:28
calcah03:28
Uscfani am in high school03:28
Uscfan:\03:28
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kdpah, use the liveCD @ school!03:28
crimsunhey now.03:29
Uscfani do03:29
calctake them to the local LUG in the city you live in03:29
kdpteach those admins something about computers03:29
Uscfanwell at school i use Slax03:29
Uscfanlol03:29
calcmost bigger cities at least have LUGs03:29
kdpwhat is a LUG? linux user group?03:29
Uscfanbut ubuntu is cool, im not doggin on it03:29
crimsunkdp: yes03:29
Uscfankdp: yes03:29
kdpah03:29
UscfanCLUg would be mine, Clark Linux Users Group03:29
Uscfanmy high school is called Clark03:29
kdp.........you have enough people at your high school using linux to have its own group?03:30
Uscfanno03:30
Uscfanlike 5 maybe03:30
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Uscfanits a small school03:30
steve__anyone familiar with UT200403:30
kdpUT2004?03:30
Uscfanmainly i use linux at school becuase our IT department are fucking morons and insalled novell on everything with restrictions and crap03:30
Uscfanunreal tournament03:30
kdpuniversity at texas?03:30
kdpoh lol03:30
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steve__kdp: yes03:30
geneo93Uscfan:  you can take cds to scholl lib then03:30
Uscfanyeah03:31
Uscfanwe are a tech school03:31
Uscfanit sucks balls03:31
Uscfanbut there are comps everywhere03:31
dex1So using that dpkg command from the /mnt/cdrom directory it copes fine with the 'update' deb. But with all the others, e.g. icewm it complains various libraries it's dependent upon aren't installed. The debs in question are those mentioned in the http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html guide; which I'm using since it's a low-spec PC. The debs were burnt to a CD as that PC has no modem connection so I can't use that apt-get command suggested i03:31
steve__Uscfan: I loaded it and am getting an error03:31
Uscfanloaded it into linux or iwndows03:31
steve__Uscfan: linux03:31
Uscfanhmmm03:31
Uscfanwell what error?03:31
steve__Uscfan: some glx error03:31
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Uscfanwell i have no idea03:31
Uscfani am not the person to ask03:31
kdpwhats your graphics card?03:31
dex1How do I proceed? Connecting that old PC to the Interney isn't an option, sadly.03:31
steve__Uscfan ;I am using nviida03:31
kdpah03:32
Uscfani am a nooblet03:32
Uscfani have no idea03:32
kdpsteve__: did you dl nvidia-glx03:32
kdpfrom synaptic03:32
steve__kdp: dl03:32
Uscfandownload the drivers??? nVidia is really good about linux compatibility03:32
kdpdownload03:32
steve__kdp: I did originally, I can see if there is an update03:32
kdpsteve__: then did you run "nvidia-config-glx enable"?03:33
geneo93you need nvidia-kernel-common also03:33
kdpor "nvidia-glx-config enable" im not sure which is right03:33
ellskdp: done all taht03:33
ellsthat03:33
Uscfanok so i should try the new ubuntu with my laptop?03:33
ellskdp: I am familiar with nvidia03:33
Uscfanim assuming all of you like ubuntu over all theothers??03:33
Uscfanmainly i want to be able to use my wirelss03:33
ellskdp: just a first since I reinstalled with the eror03:33
Uscfani hate bringing my long cable in here and having to plug it in03:34
kdpells: are you the same as steve__?03:34
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ellsI am one in the same03:34
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ellsfunny how that changed03:34
geneo93well thanks03:34
kdpells: then did you edit the xorg.conf file?03:34
ellskdp: how edit03:35
kdpto comment out "dri"03:35
ellswill check it03:35
kdpand add the output of "lsmod |grep agpgar" to the hotplug blacklist?03:35
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geneo93kdp:  i didn't03:35
kdpthat should be "agpgart"03:35
laurahi03:35
ellskdp: under modules03:35
Uscfanhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~jdub/2005/webcomp/brad-griffith.png03:35
Uscfano m f g there was money involved03:35
Uscfani could have raped all those desings03:35
laurajust installes ubuntu on a old machin (K6/450) and i have some problems to finalize the setup03:36
laurai'd need to connet to a samba server for instance03:36
kdpells: what under modules?03:36
laurahow should I doo that? the network config tool says I have no SMB support installed03:36
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Uscfanhas anyone in here insalled ubuntu on a G4??? could you tell of your experiences03:36
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xchello03:36
ellskdp: comment out # dri03:37
lauraUscfan, I used a livecd on my MacMini, works fine...03:37
Uscfanis it faster thjan osx03:37
WeirdAlOK bye everyone. Thanks for the help... I'm sure I'll be back for more tomorrow :-)03:37
Uscfanand how do you like your mini???03:37
kdpells: ah yes03:37
ellskdp: thanks03:37
lauraUscfan, well... I still use OS X on my macs, it depends on what you want to do with it03:37
Uscfani have an ipod and as many others, i might switch over because of apples awesome stuff03:37
kdpmake sure it looks like #dri, then do the blacklist03:37
kdpells: no03:38
kdp*np03:38
xc03:38
ellskdp: blacklist?03:38
lauraif you need the fastest environment ever, a linux with a lightweight GUI (like fluxbox) would be faster than OS X for sure03:38
kdpells: the thing i said to do a couple lines ago, about the output of lsmod03:38
ellsokay03:39
geneo93laura:  kde is faster than osx03:39
laurabut if you want a machine to work efficiently, to not spend time on crazy hardware issues, OS X is definitelly better03:39
laurageneo93, i still prefer OS X over KDE03:39
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geneo93mac lovers03:40
laurageneo93, i simply like things that works fine and as intended03:40
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lauraI NEVER had a crash with OS X...03:40
seraphielhow do I make the nvidia-driver to work in ubuntu03:40
ellskdp: now that lsmod is done, what next03:40
HappyPillshow do I do multipage printing with Cups?03:40
lauraanyway, may I get help here for my network config?03:40
laurawhat's the easiest way to access a SMB volume from a bare ubuntu system?03:41
geneo93laura:  i'm not good for network stuff but you need samba client first03:41
xcCan ubuntu works well with IBM xseries server, including SCSI and RAID?03:41
laurageneo93, yes, i've installed it with synaptic03:42
laurasmbclient and it's related lib03:42
laurasmbfs too03:42
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lauraxc, why would you use ubuntu on a server? Can't you use a classical debian?03:42
geneo93laura:  did you try as root03:42
ellskdp: you there03:43
kdpyeah03:43
laurageneo93, I thought ubuntu asks for a password when it needs it..03:43
ellskdp: what next, did the lsmod thing03:43
mackidgeneo93: sudo <whatever>03:43
mackider, laura: sudo whatever03:43
geneo93well sudo it then03:43
mackidsorry :-P03:43
kdpells: so it gave you something like 3 things?03:43
xclaura, thanks for your reply, the machine couldn't directly touch internet, it's painful to install with network. So I prefer ubuntu.03:43
ellsyeah, want to see03:43
kdpells: agpgart, intel_mch_agp, intel_agp?03:43
geneo93just to see if permissions are correct03:44
ellskdp: agpgart                31784  2 intel_mch_agp,intel_agp03:44
kdpells: yeah, now add those 3 things to /etc/hotplug/blacklist03:44
xcI've been waiting for sarge for a long time. I have to make decision on which distro to use, I found ubuntu is not bad.03:44
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ellsokay03:45
kdpxc: plus debian has 7 CDS.....wtf is up w/that03:45
Lithixc, I dont see why you couldent use it as a server. A fair ammount of people do (they have a section on ubuntuforums.org)03:45
geneo93xc:  hoary is built from sarge unstable03:45
Chipzzkdp: and you want to install debian from cd because? :P03:45
kdpChipzz: i dont.....it just wows me...03:46
ellskdp: where at in there03:46
kdpells: at the end of the file03:46
kdpells: then reboot, and it should work03:46
ellskdp: okay03:46
dex1Okay, continuing the very painful experience I'm having in trying to install Ubuntu for 1st time. I've tried to install the burned deb packages from the CD. The update one works but the rest complain about libs not being there. I can't use apt-get since it's not connected to the 'net. So.... reluctantly, I'm going to  unplug the PC I'm on now from the 'net and plug the DSL modem into the old PC. If I reboot it, will it detect it and allow me to use apt-get,03:46
Chipzzkdp: no-one is doing that anyway03:46
ellskdp: what will this do03:46
kdpChipzz: i realize that03:46
xcYes, the server is for small business, not critical ones. I tried on a old PC, but I need a server now. But I don't know ubuntu support the hardware good enough or not:)03:47
kdpells: this will prevent the intel modules from being loaded, and will allow the nvidia modules to be loaded03:47
kdpells: oh crap03:47
kdptheres another thing to do03:47
ellskdp: what03:47
Uscfanim getting 150kbps steady on hoary!!!03:47
Uscfanw0ot03:47
Uscfanabout an hour left03:47
dex1Does anyone know, please? I don't want to unplug the DSL modem from the Pentium4 I'm on now and plug it into the old PC unless there's a chance Ubuntu might actually allow me to USE it. :(03:48
ellskdp: what next03:48
kdpells: in the xorg.conf, make sure in the nvidia section theres a line "Option              "NvAGP"            "1"03:48
kdpthose quotes around NvAGP and 1 are important03:48
ellsokay will check03:48
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kdpand theres supposed to be a tab between everything03:49
steve__yeap, done03:49
dex1It's been a few hrs yesterday and quite a few more today; trying to get ubuntu installed I mean. :/03:49
Uscfananyone using luminiosity?03:49
Uscfanluminocity*?03:50
ellskdp: done03:50
ellskdp: i just figured out that I am on in two places03:50
ellskdp; now just reboot03:51
kdpyep03:51
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Uscfanoops03:51
ellsokay, will do, be back in a sec03:51
dex1Okay. Giving up on this for a while. Lord knows I've tried.03:51
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Zugotwhat app should i use to burn music cds with gnome?03:51
Uscfangnome toaster or somethign right?03:52
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kdpi believe nautilus has a burner built in03:52
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UscfanGnome vs. KDE03:52
kdpjust insert a blank cd and drag and drop?03:52
cleit0nae alguem fala portugues ou espanhol03:52
Zugotwon't that just copy the files to the cd?   i want to create a music cd..03:52
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HappyPillshmm.. has anyone configured duplex printing with cups before? The option is very much grayed out for me =(03:53
Uscfanthere is some website which has a big list of top rated GTK apps, called GTKapps.com or something, anyone heard of it?03:53
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Aghasterhi03:53
Aghasteri need help03:53
Megabyte405gnomefiles?03:53
Uscfanno03:54
Uscfanit has GTK in it03:54
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cleit0nhey mens, debian or ubuntu03:54
Megabyte405Hello... does anyone have any idea on why I get kernel errors when adding more memory?  I'd think it would be easily found on google, given that I had the problem both with my new ubuntubox and my slack laptop, but I couldn't find anything?03:54
Aghasteri've installed various versions of ubuntu on my computer, and i always got a broken login screen03:54
Aghasterexcept for the warty amd6403:54
seraphielhow do I install nvidia drivers in ubuntu?03:54
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Aghasteri got a amd64 3400+ processor, but want to install the i386 version for compatibility reasons.03:55
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Aghasterbut i keep getting a broken login screen each time i install ubuntu03:55
Megabyte405seraphiel: see ubuntuguide.org, instructions there work great.03:55
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cleit0nquit03:55
UscfanMagabyte: ubuntu is debian with a nicer first appearance03:56
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Aghasterdo anyone knows this problem or could refer me to a forum thread where they talk about it?03:56
Uscfananyone use MEPIS03:56
Uscfan?03:56
Aghasternote: kubuntu does the same thing03:56
Aghasteri get a broken screen for both03:56
|QuaD-Uscfan: don't use mepis03:56
Uscfanquad: why, just wondering03:57
VjazUscfan: Don't forget that Ubuntu is more recent and has a faster release cycle.03:57
Uscfanroger that03:57
VjazUscfan: And is not ran by a group of politicians.03:57
|QuaD-uscfan: its yucky.... use kubuntu03:57
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Uscfani like gnome more03:57
nargHrm, I got a couple questions: Is it more hassle to nuke / and install ubuntu, or to apt-get from sid? Is it fairly easy to turn to regular root scheme?03:57
Uscfangah-nome, hehe, but will ubuntu support most wireless cards03:57
Uscfanmine is onboard and it doesnt really have a mdel number03:58
Uscfanits internal03:58
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black_nightmarehey there03:58
HappyPillshmm... psnup is the name for converting ps files to multipage right?03:58
black_nightmareany of you know if its any good thought about only adding password to root when needed then removing it...or its ok to leave root there all the times?03:59
Uscfanooooooh it was gnome files!!!!03:59
Uscfanthanx whoever said that before03:59
black_nightmareI mean the sudo passwd root thing that is03:59
Br34chI'm on Ubuntu, and apparently my sound card wasn't found. I'm reading the forums.. and lots of them seem to be directing to something of "alsaconf." I've tried that, but here is what I get: bash: alsaconf: command not found (I tried apt-get install alsaconf, but it says "alsa-utils is already the newest version." to that) Any help and I'd be greatly grateful :x03:59
Uscfani got confused with gnomeapps03:59
kdpBr34ch: i dont believe alsaconf is used in ubuntu, whats ur soundcard?03:59
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Uscfan34% of ubuntu hoary04:00
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Br34chkdp: Don't know of the specifics, could you tell me of a command to determine? If not.. I can probably look up online by tracing from the serial number of the laptop and whatnot04:01
Megabyte405Br34ch: try sudo alsaconf04:01
Br34chsudo: alsaconf: command not found04:02
Megabyte405beats me.04:02
kdpBr34ch: its the "Multimeida audio controller" of lspci04:02
Megabyte405maybe alsaconf is a file?04:02
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kdpalsaconf is not used in ubuntu apparently04:03
MidnightDevilheya :)04:03
nargHrm, is it a pain in the arse to go from debian sid to ubuntu?04:03
MidnightDevilhow do i mount a local fat32 drive?04:03
Br34chWell . . . what can I do here?04:03
UscfanZugot you still here???04:03
Br34chMy aim is just getting sound . . . sound card is not detected, so any hints on where I should go next would be great04:04
kdpBr34ch: post the output04:04
UscfanZugot: http://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/index.php?cat=204:04
kdpMidnightDevil: see www.ubuntuguide.org04:04
Uscfana popular gnome cd burner04:04
Br34chI'm a nub, could you please rephrase in a bit more easy terms?04:04
kdpBr34ch: in the terminal, type in "lspci" and post the line starting w/"Multimedia audio controller"04:05
Br34chOh04:05
black_nightmarebrb04:05
Uscfanog shit, my partition dedicated to linux is only 5GB is that enough?!?!04:05
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|QuaD-Uscfan: haha.... not much room to play there04:05
kdpUscfan: you can use parted to resize04:05
geneo91Uscfan:  yes04:05
Br34chkdp: No such thing beginning with that in there :x04:05
Uscfanyeah i have another partition which is where i will store data04:05
UscfanFAT32 so i can share between linux and windows04:06
kdpBr34ch: now try "aplay -l"04:06
Uscfanbut 5GB for programs should be fine?04:06
geneo91yes04:06
inter_I switched my hard drives from SATA to regular IDE last night and now I can't get linux to boot properly.  Does anyone know of the steps needed to change the root device so the kernel will boot.  (already updated fstab and grub)?04:06
Br34chaplay: device_list:199: no soundcards found...04:06
kdpBr43ch: hm, then you will need to google :-)04:06
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geneo91Uscfan:  just make sure you clean apt-get once in awhile04:07
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Br34chGoogle what exactly? I don't know where to begin . . . :x04:07
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Uscfangeneo91: what do you mean04:07
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kdpBr34ch: well you said you can use your serial number?04:07
Br34chOh04:07
Br34chI'll get right on it, thanks for the help04:07
kdpnp04:07
psai_inter_ : did u change the grub.conf and the fstab from sdx -> hdx04:07
Uscfan45% of hoary04:07
Mguel721Anyone know how to mount a zip drive?04:07
Uscfanmkdir /mnt/zip04:07
inter_psai_, ya, no go still :(04:08
inter_psai_, I get a kernel panic04:08
Uscfanmount /dev/shittyzipdrive /mnt/zip04:08
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Uscfanlol04:08
psai_inter_ did u rewrite install the mbr to the new hdd04:08
psai_ah04:08
psai_inter_ what kind of panic04:08
geneo91Uscfan:  he has to edit fstab also04:09
Uscfanyes04:09
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corzahey guys any GuildWars goers in here?04:09
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Servo888Hey wasn't ubuntu suppose to ask for the root password?...04:09
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Servo888I sure as hell didn't set one up =\04:09
inter_psai_, unknown block (0,0)04:09
ellswhen I run ut2004, i get this error message. Crash information will be saved to your logfile.04:09
ellsX Error of failed request:  BadColor (invalid Colormap parameter)04:09
ells  Major opcode of failed request:  79 (X_FreeColormap)04:09
ells  Resource id in failed request:  0x2e0000c04:09
ells  Serial number of failed request:  11404:09
ells  Current serial number in output stream:  11604:09
geneo91Servo888:  no its disabled by default04:10
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Servo888geneo91, how do I enable it?04:10
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corzaAnyone here interested in Guildwars?04:10
geneo93sudo passwd root04:11
ellsanyone know why I am getting this error04:11
psai_inter_ are u sure u changed the /etc/fstab currectly ?04:11
kdpells: everything w/the card booted correctly?04:11
dtudosieis anybody printing with epson in hoary ?04:11
corzaDoes anyone know how to change the default program to run files??04:11
inter_psai_, psai_ pretty sure...all I should have had to do was change all s's to h's rihgt?04:11
ellskdp: seem so, but did you see the  error meessage i posted04:11
kdpells: yeah, i dont have ne idea, sorry04:12
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ellskdp: when i started ut200404:12
inter_psai_, i actually get 2 different panics04:12
psai_inter_ :query me the whole messages plz04:12
inter_psai_, if I use the kernel param single i get pivot_root: No such file or direcotyr04:12
black_nightmaregeneo...I agree about ubuntu having root off by default especially for real begineers04:12
Servo888geneo93, thanks :-) ok ubuntu is up and running :-) so far so good04:12
black_nightmareI enabled mine only because well 1. I do know a bit of what I am doing to do this kind of access  2. I understand about not using root as my main account [which most winxp users don't seem to even do] 04:13
black_nightmare:p04:13
geneo93well its protects them from screwing up a lot of things04:13
black_nightmaregeneo....like I said 'real begineer'04:14
geneo93well certain apps run in root can bork system also04:14
geneo93xsane for one04:15
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black_nightmarehmm I see04:20
black_nightmarewell I have a root password enabled and recoken I'll just leave it that way04:20
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Mguel721Can anyone help me how to set = JAVA PATH04:21
Uscfan66% of ubuntu hoary04:21
mdkehi all. whats the correct line for stab for viewing an ntfs partition by normal users? pleeeease!!04:21
mdke*fstab04:21
andy__gday everyone..am trying to delete a folder from my home directoryand keep getting this message..Cannot move "/home/andy/legends-0.4.0" to the wastebasket because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder.04:22
Uscfanare you the user andy04:22
Uscfansudo04:22
Uscfanand delete it04:22
nargHrm, what is the kubuntu .deb repositery at?04:22
dtudosieI am having troubles with getting the ink level  for my epson printer; anybody has an ideea ? (mtink is freezing and escputil is saying that the printer does not respond - time out - but note that I can print w/o problems)04:22
andy__yah i am the user..and the folder has a padlock icon on it for some reason04:22
nargsame as ubuntu?04:22
mdkeandy__, you have to use the terminal. type sudo rm -r folder_name04:23
caffinatedis there a known issue with the PPC G4 and Rage128 video cards in ubuntu? (warty)04:23
geneo93narg yes04:24
xcWhy my kaffeine freeze in hoary-pre? No matter reinstall kaffeine or Klibs, in no vail.04:24
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andy__mdke:  ah thats what i am after..thx..any ideas why the folder installed with a padlock icon on it04:24
geneo93xc:  what are you trying to feed it04:25
black_nightmaregeneo stupid question but then where are the documentations usually located for hoary  preview?04:25
Br34chI'm on Ubuntu, and apparently my sound card wasn't found. I'm reading the forums.. and lots of them seem to be directing to something of "alsaconf." I've tried that, but here is what I get: bash: alsaconf: command not found (I tried apt-get install alsaconf, but it says "alsa-utils is already the newest version." to that) Any help and I'd be greatly grateful :x  <--04:25
geneo93usr/share/docs04:25
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black_nightmaregeneo..oh ok ty...was curious where the new ones would be going as well anyhow...ty (I'm looking at  synaptic now)04:26
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geneo93black_nightmare:  you could do man (app) in terminal04:28
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black_nightmaregeneo.. man=manual I take it?04:29
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geneo93yes04:30
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xcgeneo93: I works well with it at first. But I made a playlist of "RMVB" files, when I open the kaffeine again, the UI freezed. And never recover again. I lose my face to my girlfriend:)04:32
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geneo93xc:  see if those codecs are available04:33
MestaphelesI see that vlc-gnome has been renamed gnome-vlc which has been terminated and to use the wxvlc.  Does wxvlc work with xorg?04:33
xcYes, they are available(I've set the path in kaffeine). And I can work with it at first(over 3 hours).04:34
scottI'm in the ubuntu install right now. I'm trying to resize a partition (will it erase all the data?) and I select my windows partition and highlight size but I don't know how to change the size04:34
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eyequeuescott:  that is not a resize tool04:35
scottso how do I resize?04:35
bestadvocatehello everyone, have you noticed two instances of the "internet" folder in the applications menu?04:35
xcThe totem in hoary is just can't work, for anything. I don't have much choise in linux for mutimedia. I really kaffeine would work again.04:35
eyequeuescott:  if you delete it and recreate it with a new size, it will work, but you will of course lose the data04:35
black_nightmare"for KDE" means gnome can't run it or am I wrong?04:35
scotteyequeue, I was told I could use qparted during the installation process04:36
geneo93xc:  i would use xmms myself04:36
LordCwrong04:36
eyequeuescott:  perhaps you could use gparted or qtparted from the livecd?04:36
bestadvocateno one?04:36
LordCblack_nightmare, you can still run the programs, but you will need to install some kde libs for it to work04:36
scottoh, so qparted isn't on the installation cd, just the livecd?04:36
black_nightmarelordc oh...ok ty04:36
eyequeuescott:  right, pop the other one in first04:37
xcgeneo93, can you play MPEG4 and RMVB in XMMS?04:37
geneo93black_nightmare:  i just did apt-get install kde04:37
black_nightmarelordc would you mean something like libkdegames1 ?04:37
AcidWolfxc Totem does work in hoary a series of g-streamer upgrades have been released yesterday so apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade04:37
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eyequeuescott:  of course, "backup everything first" is always the rule04:37
scottI don' thave the other one :( oh well, guess I'll go download knoppix04:37
eyequeueknoppix also has gparted or qtparted, last i knew04:37
black_nightmarehmm geneo..does that install the whole kde or just the libs for it?  mind you my hd isn't that big at all here but I have some good free space for now04:37
geneo93xc:  yes04:37
AcidWolfxc Totem only started working for me yesterday :)04:37
LordCblack_nightmare, Yes04:37
xcThank you, AcidWolf.04:38
AcidWolfyour welcome04:38
LordCblack_nightmare, apt get isntall kde would install whole of KDE. there is no need. Just install the dependancies (ie libkdegames1)04:38
geneo93black_nightmare:  about 450 mbs after install and need to get about 175 mb to install04:39
xcCan you point some link to me to do that?04:39
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black_nightmarelordc... does synaptic automatically select libs that are needed but not checked -- or no?04:40
geneo93yes04:40
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black_nightmarety...that makes it a tad easier knowing synaptic will find the libs itself for me04:40
eyequeueblack_nightmare:  both synaptic and apt-get will pull in any needed dependencies04:40
black_nightmareok ok you know what??  I need to say another thing....04:41
black_nightmarewindows = really LAZYYY STUPID.  haha...  I mean well....you know *rolls eyes*04:41
geneo93black_nightmare:  kde 3.4 is real nice to look at04:41
LordCLies04:41
LordClol04:41
corzadoes anyone know how to change the default program for files??04:42
ellsanyone familiar with gftp04:42
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black_nightmaregeneo..I kinda like gnome....quite remindful of my powerbook 145B's desktop (ok so its only for both typing and several games due to a small old processor)04:42
LordCkde is nice in the same way XP is nice.04:42
geneo93black_nightmare:  i would install the entire thing if you have space04:42
corzadoes anyone know how to change the default program for files??04:42
corzain my case .mp3's from totem to xmms04:42
black_nightmarelordc -- if you're missing a dll file that windows setup needs...it can't even help you with that... likewise I'm starting to think apt-get and synaptic are quite superior04:42
geneo93LordC:  no comparison even04:42
LordCgeneo93, why install the whole thing, if he is using gnome, and only needs a few libs?04:43
LordCblack_nightmare, agreed04:43
geneo93because kde is nicer than gnome04:43
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LordClmao04:43
LordCThat is one's opinion04:43
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corzageneo93: I disagree04:43
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black_nightmarebrb for a minute anyhow04:44
LordCgeneo93, You running Kubuntu?04:44
corzageneo93: gnome uses less ram and its much more useful04:44
LordCaka UbuntuK04:44
Anubiswhen I open a term I get this at the top of the prompt04:44
Anubisdircolors: `/etc/DIR_COLORS': No such file or directory04:44
geneo93no its not04:44
corzayes it is04:44
LordCcorza is right :)04:44
geneo93bah it sucks04:45
Aghasteri need help04:45
corzaLordC: Agreed :)04:45
Aghasteri took a photo of my problem04:45
Aghasteri keep getting a broken login screen04:45
corzageneo93: Gnome sucks?? it does everything that KDE does + more just using less ram04:45
Aghasterand cant do anything else than moving the cursor04:45
corzageneo93: the only upside to KDE is "oh how pretty it looks" lol04:45
geneo93no it dont04:46
corzageneo93: if eye candy is for you then KDE is for u04:46
LordCgeneo93, there is a reason Gnome is primary for Ubuntu04:46
LordCGreat Useablity04:46
corzaLordC: exactly :)04:46
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LordCcorza, true, but Gnome can be great eye candy also.04:47
geneo93hey if it didn't have python helping it its a piece of shit04:47
LordCBut it does04:47
corzaLordC: its true but it also uses less ram, and i'm not a believer in eye candy04:47
black_nightmarelordc ~ GTK+ or Xaw3D??  two choices for one game04:47
black_nightmareI'm not so sure myself04:47
LordCGTK04:47
AcidWolfactually Gnome can be awesome eyecandy :) like mine hehehehe04:47
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black_nightmarety04:47
LordCAcidWolf, can I see a screenshot? :)04:47
dtudosiegnome vs kde: I also got converted from kde to gnome b/c easy of use04:47
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LordCI love Screenies04:48
corzaAcidWolf: lmao04:48
geneo93i dont use eye candy here04:48
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black_nightmarefreeciv sounds nice..will have to see how it feels compared to the real Civilization II macintosh cd I have :p04:48
AcidWolfLordC sure04:48
suixhi04:48
corzadtudosie: its true!!04:48
LordCWell I actually reluctantly switched to Gnome, simply to try Ubuntu - I was instanlty hooked04:48
suixcan u helpme with quake3arena?04:48
black_nightmarelol lordc when I marked it to be installed...it pop up a dialog saying I would have to install two other things too..... got to love that.. smart!04:48
LordCsuix, depends on the problem04:48
theantixblack_nightmare: only try freeciv 204:48
corzaAll the other distros i have tried had KDE and hmm i didnt like the other distros haha04:49
LordCblack_nightmare, its such a great feature isn;t it!04:49
black_nightmarelordc ya04:49
geneo93seems like gaim is using the most memory04:49
ellswhen I use gftp, it wont let me transfer over my music files. permission denied, and skipping04:49
suixI have no sound in game04:49
LordCblack_nightmare,  The last distro I used didnt alert me of dependancies, until it fail :/ - gotta love Ubuntu :)04:49
LordCells, Have you checked the CHMOD?04:49
Uscfanhoary preview complete04:49
Uscfanw0ot04:49
ellsLordC, yes04:49
Uscfancya guys later time to burn and install04:49
corzaLordC: Nor me :)04:49
LordCUscfan, welcome to the club04:49
Uscfanty LordC04:50
ellsLordC. I can transfer text files it seems04:50
Uscfani will be back prolly04:50
Uscfanfreaking laptop wont boot install CD04:50
Uscfanfor warty04:50
Uscfanbrb04:50
Servo888Hey why isn't fluxbox found when running apt-cache search fluxbox04:50
Servo888Or do I need to compile from sources?04:50
corzaI havent tried a wide range of distros but this is the list i have tried: Debian, Xandros, Fedora, RedHat, Ubuntu -- Ubuntu wins hands down04:50
LordCells, try another client, just to be sure it's the server. I recommend FireFTP - its a small FireFox plugin. Assuming that is your prefered browser.04:50
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ellsLordC will try04:50
Fackamato,04:51
corzaLordC: do u know how to change the default program to files?04:51
kbrooksfluxbox - Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager04:51
LordCFailed AcidWolf :/04:51
Mguel721anyone know how to set the PATH for Java?04:51
kbrooksit exists here04:51
AcidWolflok04:51
suixclasspath=---04:51
Servo888kbrooks, hmm04:51
LordCcorza, yes, goto System, Preferences, Prefered Applications04:51
ellsLordC. not available thru aptget04:51
LordCAcidWolf, moment, Im using a xchat config from a different user04:52
AcidWolfLordC ok04:52
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corzaLordC: umm i'm trying to change for .mp3 from totem to xmms04:52
dtshas anyone tried to install kde-devel packages04:52
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LordCells, it's on MozDev @ http://fireftp.mozdev.org/04:52
kbrooksfuck04:53
kbrooksServo888, ill get it for ya04:53
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black_nightmareany of you played stepbill?04:53
kbrooksjust a sec04:53
Servo888ok04:53
corzaLordC: ?04:53
LordCAcidWolf, try again :)04:53
LordCcorza, finding right program, one sec04:54
AcidWolfk04:54
corzak dude thanks04:54
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LordCcorza, /usr/bin/gconf-editor04:54
_phreak_Anyone have any recomendations on a binnary newsgroup reader?04:54
dtswhat does the synaptics message mean: "Depends: (packagename) but it is not going to be installed04:54
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kbrooksServo888, is dcc working?04:55
Servo888should be04:55
Servo888It's xchat so I'm not 100% sure04:55
_phreak_dts: is it possible that you do now have the repository for the dependency?04:56
kbrooksServo888, ill dcc ya the file. you can find the .deb in ~/.xchat2/downloads04:56
javioloanyone use bluez or bluesnarfer ?04:56
dts_phreak_, what do you mean?04:56
Servo888ok send them over04:56
dts_phreak_, if i look for the package it finds it so it's obviously installable04:56
LordCAcidWolf, very nice desktop xD04:57
LordCAcidWolf, shame about the low resoution you're using04:57
AcidWolfty ty04:57
Servo888kbrooks, thanks04:57
kbrooksServo888, just dpkg -i fluxbox_0.1.14-4_i386.deb04:57
AcidWolf1280x854 :)04:57
LordCWhat's wrong with 1280x1024? :)04:58
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AcidWolfim on apple g4 powerbook 1504:58
kbrooksServo888, after you cd into the dir, of course04:58
LordCAh04:58
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LordCFair enough04:58
black_nightmaresay any of you know if it would have any harm for me to 'completely remove' openoffice?04:58
AcidWolfe-yup04:58
black_nightmareI kinda don't have any need for that04:58
LordCHow does the powerbucks run Ubuntu?04:58
dts_phreak_, what do you mean04:58
corzaLordC: that doesnt work??04:58
LordCblack_nightmare, wouldnt hurt a bit04:58
LordCcorza, the application doesnt work, or changing the setting doesn't work?04:59
black_nightmarety lordc ~ already using Evolution,  Text Editor, gnumeric -- no need to let openoffice just stupidly sit there on hd hehe04:59
Servo888kbrooks, "fluxbox depends on menu (>= 1.5); however: Package menu is not installed." | what's the menu package called?05:00
javioloanyone use bluez or bluesnarfer ?05:00
LordCblack_nightmare, I don't use it either, just have it for the sister tbh. I figure i'll use it when Uni starts in September05:00
dtsis there a cli package mannagment system too?05:00
black_nightmarelordc...hm I just am a bit baffled now... openoffice said that it would remove ubuntu-desktop if I wanted to completely remove openoffice05:00
black_nightmarenow...what does the desktop thing have to DO with openoffice? :|05:01
AcidWolfpowerbooks run ubuntu marvelously LordC05:01
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LordCGood point black_nightmare05:01
AcidWolfbut yeah im tinkering with hoary so i dont expect it to run  all that crash hott :)05:01
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geneo93i dont have OO here05:02
black_nightmareI hope openoffice isn't eating up a lot of space then05:02
_phreak_it does05:02
LordCblack_nightmare...05:02
LordC"Ubuntu Desktop" is a metapackage, designed to make installation and05:02
LordCupgrades easier. You can safely remove it without affecting the05:02
LordCfunctioning of your system in any way.05:02
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Guilmonstaroffice > openoffice05:02
geneo93black_nightmare:  it is05:02
black_nightmare,05:02
LordC(pasted from forums)05:02
AcidWolfopen office comes with Gnome cause gnome is a desktop that is directed more towards office users rather than KDE for people who want the eyecandy05:02
black_nightmarelordc ic so its not really related to the actual desktop?05:02
binskipy2ujust installed the hoary05:02
_phreak_Anyone managed to get Klibido installed successfully in Hoary?05:02
binskipy2uits rather nice05:02
LordCNope05:02
binskipy2ukde 3.4 is very nice05:02
LordCSounded scarey though eh05:02
AnubisW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90705:03
black_nightmarewell jeeze duh.. some of the naming system that ubuntu uses is already too crazy for me05:03
_phreak_I think the whole Gnome=office KDE=eye candy isn't completly true05:03
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ellsdoes anyone in here havea clue about gftp05:03
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binskipy2uanyone know how to put fluxbox on ubuntu?05:03
AcidWolfwell gnome is light and KDE is big and bulky05:03
_phreak_I like Kontact, better than evolution, the only advantage is the better exchange support05:03
binskipy2uive read alot of sites05:03
binskipy2ubut cant seem to figure out how to do it05:03
_phreak_Kde isn't that bulky for the standard office workstation05:03
binskipy2ui d/l the .deb fluxbox file05:03
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LordCbinskipy2u, Do you know how to install the deb?05:04
binskipy2uno lordC05:04
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LordCGuilmon, as am I :)05:04
binskipy2ui was looking on what to do05:04
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LordCbinskipy2u, as kbrooks said earlier, just dpkg -i fluxbox_0.1.14-4_i386.deb05:04
LordCYou will need to sudo that command05:04
_phreak_Anyone know of a Binnary capable newsgroup reader that works well under ubuntu or kubuntu?05:04
javioloi have to type this: cd /dev && mknod --mode 666 /dev/rfcomm0 c 216 005:04
LordC_phreak_, Pan?05:05
javiolobut i need to be root but if i use sudo doesnt work05:05
javioloanyone ?05:05
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LordCjaviolo, what do you mean by it doesn't work05:05
LordCwhat message do you get05:05
javiolosudo: cd: command not found05:06
LordCMaybe do it in two steps. cd /dev then type sudo mknod --mode 666 /dev/rfcomm0 c 216 005:06
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AcidWolfim pretty sure i asked this question yesterday but here goes again does anyone know where i can snag the w32codecs for ubuntu PPC05:06
robl^I don't think w32codes works on nn-x86 boxes05:07
javiolothanks LordC05:07
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ellsdoes anyone have any experience whatsoever with gftp05:07
LordCjaviolo, anytime05:07
AcidWolfells yes05:07
AcidWolfells ask your question05:08
ellsAcidWolf, I keep getting permission denied05:08
ellsAcidWolf, only on certain files05:08
LordCells, did fireFTP work?05:08
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AcidWolfcheck that your connecting to the right port and that your login info is correct05:08
ellsLordC, did not go there yet05:08
javioloLordC ahve you ever used bluez or bluesnarfer ?05:08
LordCells, I really recommend trying another client, so you can see if it is the software, or the server05:08
paulproteusrobl^: It does not, that's correct.05:08
ellsAcidWolf. I am connected. I sent the files there before I connected and am trying to bring them back05:08
LordCjaviolo, nope,s orry05:09
AcidWolfhmmmm05:09
ellsAcidWolf: I did a reinstall and sent them to my other PC first05:09
paulproteus_phreak_: Do try Pan.05:09
helio7eek; xscreenserver caused a complete hang of my warty-ubuntu system, had to reset the machine; now starting firefox I got a "profile in use" error message, had to create another profile to get on, (running "top" didn't show firefox was active) any ideas of how to recover settings?05:09
ellsAcidWolf.: I can only bring back some of therm05:09
ellsthem05:09
AcidWolfhmmm05:09
ellsAcidWolf. I checked all the permissions per folder;05:10
AcidWolfcan you see them are they visible05:10
ellsAcidWolf: yeap05:10
black_nightmarelordc what would this one be for now? 'language-support-en'05:10
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ellsAcidWolf: some are skipped and some flat out wont let me transfer them05:10
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LordCblack_nightmare, I think that one is actually the support for English for Ubuntu05:11
Aghasterhttp://free.hostdepartment.com/a/alphacentaurihq/brokensrc2.JPG05:11
eyequeuehelio7:  there is a lockfile you can rm under your old profile, under ~/.mozilla/firefox/05:11
black_nightmarelordc --- hrm and the  openoffice language wants to remove THAT??05:11
black_nightmarestrange once again...guess I'll leave them there05:12
Aghasteri keep getting that broken screen when ubuntu loads : http://free.hostdepartment.com/a/alphacentaurihq/brokensrc2.JPG i cant do anything but move the cursor. i have no access to any gnome or kde environment from there05:12
helio7eyequeue, ahh thanks that makes sense... because of thecrash the lockfile says the profile's still in use right?05:12
eyequeuehelio7:  quit ff and compare the two dirs, the filename should be obvious, i don't recall it offhand05:12
eyequeuehelio7:  exactly05:12
Aghastercould anyone take a look? its a serious problem : http://free.hostdepartment.com/a/alphacentaurihq/brokensrc2.JPG05:12
LordCblack_nightmare, after further reading, it seems that package simply installs allt he english stuff (ie mozilla locals, Ubuntu locals and OpenOffice), so removing it should be fine - as it wont remove the actual locals05:13
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eyequeueAghaster:  no clue, sorry05:13
black_nightmarelordc hmm ok ty *goes to remove openoffice languages*05:13
Aghaster:/05:13
Aghasterit is a serious problem05:13
LordCAghaster, that is indeed serious. Are you on Warty?05:13
eyequeueAghaster:  what triggered that?05:13
Aghasterfresh installed ubuntu/kubuntu05:14
Aghasteri've tried many many versions05:14
Aghasterand always get the same broken screen05:14
eyequeueAghaster:  what platform are you on?05:14
Aghasterinstead of the login screen05:14
Aghasteramd6405:14
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Aghasteri've tried both amd64 and i38605:14
LordCAre you installing with amd64 kernel?05:14
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eyequeueAghaster:  livecds do the same?05:15
Aghasteryes05:15
Aghasterthe i38605:15
kakaltothere is no amd65 livecd, is there05:15
gangalinowho's ready for some Totem tips?05:15
kakalto*6405:15
Aghasterdo you think that the i386 would be incompatible?05:15
Aghasterit would make sense...05:15
eyequeuegangalino:  teach away05:15
Aghasteramd64 processors have the x86 instruction set05:15
gangalinoshit..., I need tips05:15
maxcheedoes anyone know how to make a deb package?05:16
kakaltogangalino: ?05:16
gangalinoeverytime I start it, I get "Failed to create a GStreamer play object"05:16
maxcheefrom source code05:16
eyequeuemaxchee:  dpkg-buildpackage is part of it05:16
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eyequeuemaxchee:  install "maint-guide" and read the doc dir for a simple walk-through05:17
[FiDO] maxchee just look it up05:17
LordCAghaster, kill X, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k805:17
black_nightmarelordc ok I think I've figured what I'll like to get... so in synaptic I click ... what?05:17
kdpdoes anyone know a good C channel?05:17
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eyequeuekdp:  is it ##C ?05:17
[FiDO] ##C05:18
Aghaster#C05:18
maxcheeis there a way to monitor make .configure and produce a dev package?05:18
eyequeuekdp:  freenode likes to double the # sometimes05:18
LordCblack_nightmare, right click the package, click "Mark for installation", then click Apply at the top.05:18
kdpwhich one, ##C or #C05:18
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kdpeyequeue: oh05:18
kakaltogangalino, have you looked on the forums about it?05:18
[FiDO] ##c05:18
LordCkdp, lol05:18
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helio7thanks for the tip on the lockfile eyequeue, i got it fixed...05:18
eyequeuehelio7:  great05:18
eyequeuehelio7:  that bit me here a while back also05:19
helio7do most people use the standard gnome-terminal (if you're using gnome) or are some folks using xterm i'm curious to know05:19
black_nightmareok lordc ... its downloading the files offline to install... lol about 12MB to remove and 61MB to add.... :p05:19
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black_nightmareno real comments thou05:20
LordCWhy are you using root terminal?05:20
delltonyok what am i doing wrong? every time i boot up my lappy i get the following filesystem is NOT clean.  I have tried sudo touch /forcefsk and i have also tried shutdown now -r -F nothing seem sto work i'm not runnint ext3 i'm reisfer (or whatever its called)05:20
FackamatoJOI05:20
black_nightmarelordc well it was several things including using nano to edit sources.list for repositories as well05:21
LordCoic05:21
LordCStill, i recommend sticking with regular terminal, and sudo the few root commands you need05:21
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gangalinokakalto: yes, nothing really about that error05:21
corzaLordC: i'm back sorry, u wouldnt know how to do it would ya/?05:21
eyequeuedelltony:  reiserfs.  it never did that for me, on a debian box, can't offer any other suggestions though05:21
corzaLordC: i dont know how to change the settings thats all05:21
LordCcorza, Remind me what you wanted, mp3s from totem to xmms?05:22
corzayes05:22
eyequeuedelltony:  i gather you typically do a proper shutdown?05:22
delltonyon a laptop its common so yes :)05:22
delltonyi shut it down properly05:22
corzaLordC: yes thats correct05:22
delltonybut what happen si the battery went dead on me05:22
eyequeuedelltony:  ah05:23
delltonytherefore the shutdown didn't go correctly05:23
LordCcorza, Just looking into it deeper, bare with me05:23
eyequeuedelltony:  so basically, if you could get it "clean" it would probably stay that way again?05:23
corzaso do i go into Apps05:23
delltonyit should05:23
nmsais someone using ubuntu to capture video from a camcorder? IEE1394? I am interested in that, hope that I can find a package, any idea where to start ?05:23
corzaLordC: oh ok no prob05:23
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eyequeuenmsa:  ieee1394 is firewire i believe, if that halps your search any05:24
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[FiDO] has anyone got lirc to work properly with ubuntu05:24
derekubuntu developers.. you deserve gnudos (kudos would imply a preference to KDE) as you kick arse05:24
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derekthe hardest part of ubuntu was getting the media :)05:24
[FiDO] it's the only thing I haven't been able to get working05:24
derekhave working sound, internet and X without doing a damn thing05:24
eyequeuedelltony:  have you tried booting in "recovery mode" yet?05:25
dereknever in 7 years of debian have i had that :)05:25
nmsaeyequeue: search any ?05:25
derekand on a brand new laptop at that05:25
delltonyand do what from recovery?05:25
eyequeuenmsa:  if it helps any in your search for a package05:25
eyequeuedelltony:  well, on the way in, it should fsck for you05:26
LordCcorza, check PM05:26
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corzaLordC: ok how lol05:26
corzaoh nevermind05:26
eyequeuedelltony: if not, the next thing i would try is booting from rescue media, either the livecd or isstall cd, or knoppix or whatever, heh.  then fsck the partition in question, with it NOT mounted05:26
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eyequeuederek:  add to that wireless, and yes, very impressive! :)05:27
delltonywell i thought thats what forcefsk did05:27
LordCcorza, hope it works - worked for me05:27
delltonyapparently not05:27
eyequeuedelltony:  i'm not familiar with forcefsck05:27
Jentoo000man after i edited /etc/apt/sources.list nothing works can anyone send me there one that works?05:28
geneo93eyequeue:  its a boot option05:28
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eyequeuedelltony:  i imagine you may have typoed just now, but be sure you didn't on the filesystem05:28
anneany chance of getting a complete set of 32 bit compat libraries on Hoary for AMD64??05:29
Jentoo000?05:29
Jentoo000can anyone help please05:29
LordCJentoo000, sure05:29
nmsaeyequeue:found only high level programing lib ...05:30
LordCJentoo000, http://www.so-pro.co.uk/avatarsetc/umbongo/SOURCES.txt05:30
Jentoo000after i edited /etc/apt/sources.list nothing works can anyone send me there one that works?05:30
eyequeuenmsa:  hmm05:30
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Fackamatohttp://www.tehjunkyard.net/01-iron_maiden-where_eagles_dare-satan_int.mp305:30
Jentoo000thanks LordC05:31
eyequeuenmsa:  http://www.ppcnerds.org/Article207.html seems to imply firewire is suported automatically05:32
Jentoo000LordC: do I rename it to sources.list ??05:32
eyequeuenmsa:  i have no firewire devices here, but i do have a port on the laptop, let me check something05:33
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eyequeueieee1394: Initialized config rom entry `ip1394'05:34
eyequeueohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.0 (PCI): IRQ=[10]   MMIO=[e0201000-e02017ff]   Max Packet=[2048] 05:34
eyequeueieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023]   GUID[0003252135013c4c] 05:34
LordCJentoo000, sudo gedit /etc/sources.list and copy n paste the text into it05:35
eyequeuethat is from 'dmesg' here, so it implies my kernel is seeing it05:35
LordC/etc/apt/sources.list ***05:35
eyequeuenmsa:  'dmesg | grep 1394'  do you get anything?05:35
derekjust for grins does ubuntu have a way to graphically edit the fstab file?05:35
derekkind of the equivalent of "map a network drive"05:35
nmsait should support it by default, the qestion is: how to control my camera ? how to capture ?05:36
eyequeuederek:  sure, sudo gedit /etc/fstab05:36
Burgundaviaderek: places --> connect to server05:36
eyequeuederek:  sorry, i don't know what map a network drive means05:36
derekin debian i have just always manually done it with emacs, but trying to do the easy way05:36
earthencan anyone tell me where i can get the mp3 pluging for xmms?05:36
nmsaI don't have the card in, but a diff. distro sure sees it, so I am sure ubuntu, sees it too05:36
derekBurgundavia, that allows me to find it which is great05:37
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derekbut for example in rhythmbox i can't get to my music unless i "mount" that smb share05:37
eyequeuenmsa:  i guess i don't see what the problem was then.  did you need to know to use "sudo mount" to mount the drive?05:37
geneo93eyequeue:  are you at all lunixy enough to have use linneighborhood05:37
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eyequeuegeneo93:  sorry, never heard of it, what is it?05:38
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black_nightmarelordc ~ do you know of something named like isapnptool or like it?05:38
nmsaeyequeue: never tried that ...05:38
ellsdoes anyone know how I change permissions for a folders worth of files05:38
LordCWhat does it do?05:38
ellsthat will affect all the files05:38
nmsai will and let you know, :) 'thnx05:38
geneo93its kinda like samba but put dir in home with network drives eyequeue05:38
ellsLordC: I figured it out05:39
eyequeueells:  chmod blah * you mean?05:39
ellseyequeue: yeah05:39
black_nightmarelordc supposed to configure pnp-abled isa cards.... my sound card doesn't seem to be showing up in device manager so I need figure configuring it manually myself05:39
eyequeuegeneo93:  no samba experience here, just nfs05:39
ellseyequeue: I tried chmod 777 file, no dice05:39
black_nightmarebut I don't seem to be able to locate any help on using it at all05:39
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ellseyequeue, is there a way to affect a whole file05:39
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LordCAh05:39
eyequeueells: 777 is dangerous, but :)  a "whole file" means what?05:40
LordCRegarding Sound Cards I would search UbuntuForums.org as their very specific05:40
mellowhat is Kubuntu?05:40
eyequeueells: all the files in a directory?05:40
calcmello: kde ubuntu05:40
geneo93eyequeue:  i dont know if debian supports it yet but suse and a few others do05:40
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mellooh05:40
ellseyqueue, I mean all the files in the directory05:40
eyequeuemello:  kde + ubuntu05:40
mellokde is a graphic user interface, right?05:40
derekok i have lost respect for ubuntu now :(05:40
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black_nightmarehmm lordc..this is mine card anyhow: Creative SoundBlaster 16 CT2230 [pnp isa card] 05:41
eyequeueells: chmod 777 /target/directory/*05:41
derekbash: emacs: command not found (on a default install) what kind of heresy is that ;)05:41
bandnerdhow good is ubuntu when it comes to hardware detection?05:41
calcmello: yes05:41
derekbandnerd, from my limited exposure beyond kick arse05:41
eyequeuebandnerd:  most are fairly shocked at how good05:41
black_nightmarenot sure I want open another website right now...this machine already kinda crawls as it is sometimes (128MB of ram to...and hd sometimes keep grinding quite a  lot] 05:41
ellseyequeue: there are 240 files in the directory. dont tell me I have to do one at a time05:41
calcderek: emacs is bloated crap :)05:41
calcderek: use vi05:41
melloany benefits to KDE vs. GNOME?05:41
derekcalc, hey now be nice05:41
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eyequeueells:  no, let me give you an exact command, tell me the directory name please05:42
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ellseyequeue: /home/steve/iTunes05:42
LordCblack_nightmare, SoundBlaster are a well established brand, i'd be surprised if it didnt work05:42
ellsand then the files below it05:42
calcmello: they both are good, GNOME is more geared towards usability05:42
smouchemello, that question could start a "religious war" around here -- ;-)  I much prefer kde, others prefer gnome.05:42
eyequeuemello:  some prefer it, some do not.  i prefer gnome, as do the original ubuntu developers ... i'm trying to be "diplomatic" heh05:42
calcmello: KDE is more geared towards eye candy05:42
black_nightmarelordc yeah I know..the problem I am guessing is that..its isa so...hence it doesn't seem to be showing up in device manager right now05:42
eyequeueells:  okay, and are those files owned by you?  or do we need to have root powers to do this?  then i'll give you an exact command05:43
melloah05:43
calcthere are other real benefits to using kde but the eye candy detracts from it imho05:43
geneo93calc:  thats bull05:43
eyequeueells:  linux-owned, not talking drm-type things :)05:43
melloyou know, i've seen all these screenshots with the calendars on them, where do they get those from?05:43
ellsI can go to the exact computer and do it05:43
derekgeneo93, bull that there are other benefits or that eye cand detracts?05:43
smouchemello, the "eye candy" is very easily tailored to what you want in kde, a little or a lot.05:43
LordCblack_nightmare, I'm going to PM05:44
black_nightmareokie05:44
calcthere are definitely other benefits and keramik was definitely not one of them (gag)05:44
ellseyequeue, you there05:44
LordC1) opened a terminal05:44
LordC2) typed:05:44
LordCsudo modprobe sb io=0x220 irq=7 dma=1 dma16=505:44
LordC3) logged out from Gnome and logged in again05:44
LordC4) raised sound volume05:44
eyequeueells:  here, put "sudo " in front of this if your user doens't own them: 'chmod 777 /home/steve/iTunes/*'05:44
LordCand it worked!05:44
LordCAh poo, didnt mean to do that05:44
ellsokay05:44
eyequeueells:  if your user doens't own them: 'sudo chmod 777 /home/steve/iTunes/*'05:44
black_nightmarelol lordc its ok :p05:44
eyequeueells:  do you understand what the command i gave you does?05:45
eyequeueells:  i dislike telling someone "do this root-level command blindly" :)05:45
smouchemello: It's not all just a cosmetic difference, gnome and kde install with a lot of different apps, but in many cases apps intended for one work fine in the other.05:45
geneo93well i have 4 linux distros on this thing and i use copy file or move file quite a bit so kde is very usefull to me and it also has qt which i use on a daily basis05:45
derekcalc emacs21, python mode and supporting libraries are just under 75mb uncompressed... what bloat? ;)05:45
JDahlwhat's the link to the description of the different repositories?05:45
melloah05:45
calcderek: hahahaha05:46
eyequeueells:  btw, i'd think you might actually want 'chmod 666 /home/steve/iTunes/*' instead.  they seem like they would be data file, not executables05:46
melloi've seen all these people's screenshots with the calendars on their desktops, where do they get those from?05:46
calcderek: i still want to learn emacs eventually, i just haven't had the time in the past 10yr to do it05:46
calcits probably not nearly as slow on my box now as it was when i first started using linux05:46
smouchemello, imho, kubuntu is probably the best kde distro available, just as ubuntu may be the best gnome distro.  Either one is amazing.05:47
ellseyequeue, okay05:47
eyequeueells:  and if you don't want the world to be able to DELETE them, you might want 644, then all can read them (access or play them) but not overwrite or delete05:47
eyequeueells:  and only the "owner" can overwrite or delete05:47
ellseyequeue, I will now try to transfer them with gftp05:47
Roeybut just to get it out of the way, kde is awesomer than gnome.05:47
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eyequeueells:  did the command work for you, with that "*" WILDCARD?05:48
calcRoey: no way :)05:48
ellseyequeue: i sent them to to my desktop and hopefully this will help bring them back05:48
eyequeueoops05:48
Roeycalc:  KDE is the REAL ULTIMATE POWER!05:48
Roeycalc:   FACTS:05:48
calcRoey: once gnome gets the cool toys redhat is working on kde will lose on eyecandy too ;)05:48
Roeycalc:  1.  KDE is (programmed by) mammals05:48
calcgnomes are mammals too05:48
ellseyequeue: "* ?05:48
geneo93no there not05:48
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eyequeueokay, please please please stop the GNOME vs KDE wars ? ! ? !05:48
Roeycalc:  2. KDE is awesomer than gnome ALL the time05:49
smouchecalc, I guess I'm weird, but I found gnome's eye candy a lot more distracting than kde's, because at least in kde I can easily turn it off!05:49
Roeycalc:  3. The purpose of KDE is to make GNOME irrelevant05:49
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geneo93gnomes are old perverts05:49
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Roeyblack_nightmare:  ;)05:49
smouchegnome's settings, for a newbie anyway, are harder to deal with than kde's05:49
Roeyhttp://brianx.com/realultimatepower.html05:49
eyequeuethanks05:49
Jentoo000updating apt-get takes a while *_*05:49
melloi'm almost sorry i wondered what KDE was :)05:49
melloanyways.. back to my other question05:50
melloi've seen all these people's screenshots with the calendars on their desktops, where do they get those from?05:50
Jentoo000i recon ubuntu is the best distribution for newbies and advanced linux uers so far05:50
Megabyte405Roey: LOL!05:50
eyequeuemello:  call it "one of the many alternatives linux offers you" :)05:50
geneo93mello:  kde05:50
calcsmouche: eh? gnome has no eyecandy05:50
Megabyte405The purpose of KDE is to flip out and kill people.05:50
RoeyHAHAHA05:50
Megabyte405Hence why I use gnome.05:50
RoeyMegabyte405:  nono05:50
Jentoo000wish i had gkrellm working05:50
calcRoey: erm i think you have it backwards, gnome was created as a response to the non-free kde stuff ;)05:50
kakaltoMb405, it's all a matter of opinion05:50
eyequeueJentoo000:  works here, what seems to be the problem?05:50
RoeyMegabyte405:  the purpose of KDE GROUPIES is to flip and kill gnome groupies.05:50
Megabyte405ahh, I see.05:51
Megabyte405Are they mammals?05:51
mellooh.05:51
=== calc has been on both sides of the kde argument ;)
dtskdesdk:05:51
dts Depends: kbugbuster but it is not going to be installed05:51
Roeycalc:   I know but I had to make KDE fit the parody template :)05:51
Jentoo000eyequeue: dont know where to start once I've downloaded it, what file should i download05:51
dtswhat doen that mea05:51
dtsn05:51
calcRoey: ah ok :)05:51
smouchecalc, I call animations on window minimizing eye candy, and I call it obnoxious.  And I could never turn it off in gnome, at least not without fucking up other stuff.05:51
RoeyMegabyte405:  KDE is programmed by mammals05:51
eyequeueJentoo000:  you have the deb?05:51
Jentoo000 i want stuff on my desktop showing my speed, hwo much room i got on my computer etc05:51
RoeyI think I've found the next Slashdot ongoing joke05:51
Jentoo000whats deb? I've been mucking around with my list file and ive seen the word deb in it05:51
calcsmouche: hmm that should be fairly easy to disable, i just never have noticed it05:51
eyequeueJentoo000:  are you familiar with synaptic?05:51
Roey(it's circulated there but not yet en mass)05:51
Jentoo000eyequeue: I dont understand it much so i just use the console05:52
eyequeueJentoo000:  okay, you're brand new, right?  don't want to talk down, just be clear05:52
smoucheand it's uuugly eye candy.  But like I said, ubuntu is great gnome, kubuntu is great kde.05:52
Jentoo000eyequeue: yes05:52
Roey*its05:52
Br34chnub question.. with what command can I determine basic stuff like what kernel I'm using and moreon of the sort of information?05:52
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Megabyte405Br34ch: uname05:53
eyequeueJentoo000:  okay, i'll give you commandline alternatives, and i'll give you synaptic alternatives, you can choose which you prefer at the end before doing them05:53
Br34chthank you05:53
Anubishow to add gismos reposit?05:53
Megabyte405Br34ch: uname -r for kernel version, -A I think for all05:53
Jentoo000eyequeue: for? I havent downloaded any of the gkrellms yet though05:53
eyequeueJentoo000:  apt-cache search gkrellm | less  .... that will get you a list of what pacakges there are, then you can choose which you like05:53
LordCells, chmod +777 /home/steve/iTunes -R (incase you didnt get the answer yet)05:53
mellowhat's the terminal command for deleting a folder you don't want05:54
Jentoo000hmm ok05:54
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black_nightmarebye till tomorrow everyone :)05:54
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eyequeueJentoo000:  then, assuming they are called "foo" and "bar" (which is unlikely, lol) you would "sudo apt-get install foo bar"05:54
eyequeueJentoo000:  that's the commandline style, now i'll explain the synaptic style05:54
ubuntoidmello:  rmdir05:54
ellsLordC, thanks05:54
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Jentoo000what the it just shows _ that in rows05:55
LordCRight, im off to bed now05:55
LordCNight all05:55
mellogracias05:55
Jentoo000up the top it says gkrelldnet - A dnetc plugin for GKrellM05:55
eyequeueJentoo000:  system > administration > synaptic, to start it, then push the Search button, and type in gkrellm05:55
eyequeueJentoo000:  you'll have a list of pacakges, pick the ones you want, right click on them, and say you want to select them for installation05:55
dtsis there a synaptics for the console05:55
Jentoo000man can u whisper to me this is too hard05:56
eyequeueJentoo000:  click on apply, and it's done05:56
Blissexdts: 'aptitude'05:56
ellsLordC, thanks, it worked05:56
eyequeuedts:  dselect, or aptitude would be the closest05:56
dtsBlissex, eyequeue thanks05:56
eyequeuedts:  i personally would prefer dselect, others would prefer aptitude, linux is about choices, heh05:57
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Megabyte405Dselect!!!!05:57
Megabyte405WHAT??!!!05:57
ice_1963lol05:57
ice_1963ok05:57
Megabyte405I do think I get an allergic reaction to that.  Never could figure out what the heck to do in it.05:57
eyequeueMegabyte405:  press "?" :)05:58
Megabyte405Tried that...05:58
Megabyte405That is probably why I do not use Debian anymore.05:58
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geneo93debian is pretty clunky but ubuntu has helped it some05:59
JDahlwhat's the link to guide on the difference between multiverse and universe etc. ?06:00
eyequeueJDahl:  none, iirc06:00
JDahleyequeue, there06:00
JDahleyequeue, there is one... I just cant remember or find it06:00
eyequeueJDahl:  multiverse is "nonfree" and unsupported, universe is merely unsupported06:00
ice_1963uninstall an go back to windows06:00
JDahleyequeue, yeah... I was looking for the reference to email a friend that just installed Warty, and wonders where all the usual Debian packages went06:01
geneo93ice_1963:  why06:01
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eyequeueJDahl:  in deb-speak, universe is where, and multiverse would be the "non-free" ones06:02
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geneo93all the illegal things in usa06:03
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bluefoxicyman06:03
JDahleyequeue, and restricted is mainly wrappers for binaries?06:03
bluefoxicyI need to alter hoary-live06:03
bluefoxicyto have ntfs readwrite support06:03
bluefoxicyand clamav06:03
bluefoxicyso I can clamscan windows pcs at work06:04
bluefoxicyhad to manually remove a virus in dell -- recovery console.06:04
Megabyte405clamwin.org06:05
bluefoxicyuh06:05
geneo93bluefoxicy:  sounds like you have more than virus then06:05
bluefoxicyfiles in use can't be removed, as many viruses like to be.06:05
bluefoxicyI had to get out of the OS to do it06:05
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eyequeueJDahl:  no, that's basically non-free kernel-level stuff06:05
JDahleyequeue, aha, thanks06:06
geneo93bluefoxicy:  sometimes it can be done in safe mode admin06:06
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Megabyte405I second geneo93 's thoughy06:07
Megabyte405thought, even.06:07
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bluefoxicygeneo93:  yeah but windows is ass06:07
bluefoxicyif I have to reboot it, I should reboot into something cool.06:07
geneo93i clean up 3 dells here that way06:07
eyequeueJDahl:  if you manually browse pool/restricted, you'll see, it's kernel-restricted and the two proprietary video supports, ati and nvidia06:07
eyequeueJDahl:  stuff that "should" be inb the kernel, in an ideal world06:08
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KazuhiroAny one setup transgaing on x86_64 and not used a chroot as listed on here? http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu06:08
dts  Depends: python (<2.4) but 2.4-0ubuntu6 is to be installed06:08
dts Depends: python2.3-kde3 but it is not going to be installed06:08
dtsi don't get what those messages mean06:08
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geneo93clamav just quaretines them then you change file ext and delete them06:08
Megabyte405dts: doing a warty to hoary update?06:08
dtsMegabyte405, no i have horay installed already06:09
Megabyte405oh.06:09
dtsMegabyte405, it looks like it can't take python2.4 and wants 2.306:09
dtsMegabyte405, do you know how i can downgrade a version06:09
Megabyte405dts: I think I have both installed since my upgrade.06:09
Megabyte405I think they are both available in apt06:09
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crimsundts: which package?06:10
coreDumped69hey, I'm helping my friend set up ubuntu, and it's my first ubuntu install (not linux tho...) he gets part way thru the menus in the installer and the screen starts flashing and the progress stops... does it sound like a hardware problem? (I'm running memtest now)06:10
dtsMegabyte405, yea I installed 2.3 but it still won't do06:10
Megabyte405Hmm.06:10
crimsundts: python*-kde?06:10
Megabyte405change your python symlink to python-2.306:10
dtscrimsun, python-kde306:10
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crimsunMegabyte405: don't do that, a lot of things will break.06:10
dtsMegabyte405, just manualy ln -sf ...?06:10
Megabyte405hmm.06:10
Megabyte405dts: then don't do that.06:10
Megabyte405beats me.06:11
dtsq06:11
dtsok06:11
ellshas anyone noticed the nvidia driver being a little grainy. I did some tweaking to it, and it still looks like crap06:11
hou5tonI have worked on this for hours, over the course of days, and still can't get sounds working in xchat ... running Hoary06:11
corzahay06:11
coreDumped69ells, nvidia or nv?06:11
hou5tondoes anyone else in here have sounds in xchat06:11
crimsundts: / Megabyte405: Hoary transitioned to Python 2.4 being default.  If you run across another issue like that, please let us know in #ubuntu-motu, thanks.06:11
kakaltoI never knew xchat had sounds06:11
ellscoreDumped69: i had nv, changed it to nvidia06:11
ellscoreDumped69: why06:12
dtscrimsun, well what should i do right now06:12
coreDumped69ells, cause I just saw an install and the nv drivers had weird issues, but once switched to nvidia it worked fine06:12
dtscrimsun, go  there?06:12
crimsundts: do you absolutely need python-kde3?06:12
crimsundts: if not, sudo aptitude remove python-kde306:12
dtscrimsun, yea i used to program in it and i have some stuff i need from it06:12
ellscoreDumped: maybe I still have nv working. how can I makeceratin06:12
dtscrimsun, pykde3 is not installed yet, i'm trying to install it right now06:13
corzahey can someone help me change what my mouse buttons do?06:13
geneo93ells:  glxgears06:13
coreDumped69ells, lsmod to make sure you have the nvidia module loaded and check your xorg.conf06:13
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corzais there someone who can help me change what my mouse buttons do?06:14
ellscoreDumped: i just checked and it had nv in the xorg.conf, I changed it "nvidia"06:14
crimsundts: Riddell's in change of that since he's working on Kubuntu, so I'll ask him about it.06:14
ellsgeneo93, whats that06:15
coreDumped69change it to nvidia and restart x06:15
dtscrimsun, do you have a bug tracking system where i should report it or should i just wait here?06:15
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geneo93its a small demo06:15
ellscoredumped, since I changed it from "nv" to "nvidia" i should be good right06:15
ellsgeneo93, shoudl I try that06:16
coreDumped69after restarting x, give it a try06:16
corzacould someone help me change what my mouse buttons dO?06:16
geneo93ell nvidia-glx-config enable06:16
ellsgeneo93, here is what is said root@stevesnetwork:/ # glxgears06:16
ellsXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".06:16
ellsglxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.06:16
crimsundts: eventually we'll have a new one in place, but for now, please ask on the ubuntu-devel mailing list06:16
ellsgeneo93, what is this saying06:17
geneo93ells:  its not enabled then06:17
ellsgeneo93, okay what next then06:17
geneo93do that other command i gave you06:17
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protocolhey all06:18
corzaargh my mouse is really pissing me off can someone please help me?06:18
ellsgeneo: nvidia-glx-config enable?06:18
geneo93ells:  after that ctrl alt backspace06:18
protocolanyone in here using enlightenment DR17 (E17) here?06:18
geneo93yes06:19
protocolgeneo93, you are?06:19
josuehey guys,06:19
josuesorry06:19
corzacan someone help me with my MOUSE??06:19
geneo93protocol:  long time linux user06:19
protocolcorza, what problem are you having06:19
corzaprotocol: my mouse buttons arent doing their right function06:19
corzaprotocol: my scroller is going Back and Forward and my Back and Forward Buttons are doing my scrollers job06:20
dtscrimsun, are you asking riddel right now, or should i do it?06:20
protocolgeneo93, thing is I'm trying to install it via apt-get but I'm getting a broken pipe error because deps are conflicting; libecore0 and libecore1 and libevas0 and libevas206:20
crimsundts: I've pinged him, but it's Saturday night, and he's probably busy.06:20
protocolcorza, what kind of mouse you got?06:21
dtscrimsun, :-D ok, how do i sign up for the ubuntu-devel list06:21
geneo93protocol:  apt-get -f install should fix it06:21
corzaprotocol: Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer V3.006:21
protocolgeneo93, tried that....doesn't work :P That's where I get the broken pipe error06:21
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ellswell, my ut2004 works, but no sound06:22
crimsundts: instructions are here: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel06:22
geneo93protocol:  what do you have warty or hoary06:22
protocolgeneo93, hoary06:22
ellsgeneo93, my ut2004 now works with the card, but no sound06:22
dtscrimsun, or alternatively should i report to the python integration team?06:22
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geneo93you have all the repos. enabled06:22
crimsundts: both (I'm on that team).06:23
ellsgeneo93: you talking to me06:23
protocolcorza, thats usb or ps/2?06:23
protocolgeneo93, yup06:23
dtscrimsun, do they have a seperate mailing list? (i'd like to join that team btw, i'm pretty good with python)06:23
corzaprotocol: its connected to my ps/2 but it has a usb->ps/2 converter06:23
crimsundts: nope, there's no mailing list06:24
geneo93hmm i had that problem when i upgraded to hoary but dont remember what i did to fix it06:24
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geneo93protocol:  maybe crimsun can help you06:24
crimsunerr?06:24
crimsunsec, need to read scrollback :)06:24
protocolcrimsun, any ideas?06:24
protocolcrimsun, thing is I'm trying to install it via apt-get but I'm getting a broken pipe error because deps are conflicting; libecore0 and libecore1 and libevas0 and libevas206:25
crimsunprotocol: for e17?  It's preferred that you build from cvs.06:25
corzaprotocol: its connected to my ps/2 but it has a usb->ps/2 converter06:25
geneo93protocol:  i think i have to remove package first that used them06:26
protocolcrimsun, lol it's "preferred"...I don't want through go through all that :P06:26
dtscrimsun, how is the python team organized (if at all)06:26
protocolgeneo93, ?06:26
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geneo93remove the old and install the new06:26
crimsundts: afaik, there's no "team" (I was referring earlier to the MOTUs, not a specific python team)06:26
crimsundts: please feel free to read http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/MOTU06:27
protocolgeneo93, did all that... I don't understand tho why e17 needs both libecore0 and libecore1 as well as libevas0 and libevas206:27
geneo93backwards compat maybe06:28
protocolcorza, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&forumid=2&threadid=292726  <--- check that out might help06:28
crimsunprotocol: I haven't used E since the DR15 days, so I'm fairly rusty on its specific, current packaging06:28
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protocolcrimsun, it's ok dude...thanks tho ;)06:29
jimarkohey all06:29
crimsunprotocol: what package(s) specifically are you attempting to install?06:29
dtscrimsun, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/teams/06:29
geneo93crimsun:  your beeter off then me i never used it at all06:29
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protocolcrimsun, everything enlightenment (E17) asks for.  but only 4 (or 2 really) are givin' me trouble06:30
crimsundts: oh duh, that.06:30
geneo93ells:  you have alsamixer06:30
kpetersonhey, I am having some trouble with file sending/recieving on the AIM protocol using GAIM.  My attempts all fail or time out.  Any suggestions?06:31
ellsgeneo: I can check06:31
crimsundts: unfortunately keybuk doesn't appear to be online; he's the leader of that06:31
geneo93just type that in terminal ells06:31
GhostFreemanIs there a way I can run a terminal on my desktop, like with KDE06:32
geneo93ells:  ifso check settings06:32
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ellsgeneo93, okay06:32
geneo93yes GhostFreeman06:32
GhostFreemanHow would I?06:32
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ellsgeneo93, it is installed06:33
helloyohow come many of my videoclips don't have a previews? even though seemingly identical ones have a preview... any help?06:33
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geneo93GhostFreeman:  click on menu ten system and its in that group06:33
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geneo93GhostFreeman:  i added applet to task bar06:34
ellsgeneo93, should I be looking at anything in here06:35
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giardevening06:35
geneo93the digital i/o06:35
giardanyone using hoary have problems getting tomboy running recently?06:35
ellsgeneo93: whats the i/o06:36
Vjazgiard: Seems to be working for me.06:36
giard(I can't tell if it's just my configuration or something more general)06:36
geneo93input output06:36
giardVjaz: oh good, it must just be me06:36
ellsgeneo: I dont see anything resembling that in here though, there is 3d and such06:36
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geneo93whats muted06:37
Vjazgiard: Heh, seems like I just crashed it though when trying to see "About Tomboy"06:37
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ellsgeneo93: looks like 3d and mic06:37
geneo93i'll have m in place of volume control06:37
Vjazgiard: Other than that, it has been working fine.06:37
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ellsokay06:37
kpetersoni just installed ubuntu, but when i try to send/recieve files with my AIM buddies, it does not work.  It worked before I installed linux. Does anyone have experience with this kind of problem06:38
ellsgeneo93: mic boost and 3d control06:38
ellsand iec95806:38
ellswhatever that it06:38
ellsis06:38
xquizitHi, I seem to have a prob using the xfce4 graphical installer, it seems i'm missing "Session management library" and "X pixmap library" but I searched on ubuntuforums and installed what I was suppose to, but still nothing.06:38
geneo93well sometimes it does that i lost all my sound till i rebooted06:39
ellsgeneo93, what ya think06:39
giardVjaz: I can't seem to install it and run it now06:39
ellswill be right back then06:39
goldfishxquizit: you can install it from synaptic06:39
goldfishxfce that is06:39
xquizitgoldfish, no I can't I get way too many deps06:39
goldfishah right06:39
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xquizitgoldfish, I noticed someone got it working on hoary, but I would like to keep warty without using the backports.06:40
goldfishah right06:41
crimsunxquizit: how did you install xfce4?06:41
crimsunxquizit: apt-get install xfce4  should have sufficed06:41
xquizitcrimsun, i'm trying right now using the gui installer, I did that but got a whole lot of deps :/06:41
crimsunxquizit: oh, that's the long way around06:42
bluefoxicyThe Application "gnome-volume-manager" has quit unexpectedly.06:42
crimsunxquizit: do you specifically want 4.2?06:42
crimsunxquizit: using ,,sudo apt-get install xfce4'' installs 4.0.606:42
xquizitnot I just apt-get install xcfe406:42
xquizitcrimsun, do I need to type sudo apt-get install xfce42? or 4.2?06:43
kpetersoncan anyone point me to a good guide to installing MPlayer on Warty?06:43
goldfishkpeterson: ubuntuguide.org i think has it06:44
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crimsunxquizit: does xfce4 not work when you choose XFce from GDM's Session menu?06:44
geneo93http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:44
xquizitcrimsun, I can't even install it06:44
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xquizitalso i'm using a fresh install of ubuntu06:45
giardVjaz: you're running hoary, right?06:45
Vjazgiard: Yes.06:45
Vjazgiard: Currently with all the latest packages too.06:46
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rbnhckhi06:46
xquizitcrimsun, is there anything I can do to install xfce4?06:46
crimsunxquizit: have you enabled the universe repository?06:47
xquizityes I have06:47
rbnhckSIS305 DRI in ubuntu warty?06:47
crimsunxquizit: (and run Reload in Synaptic, or sudo apt-get update ?)06:47
xquizitI have also added this to my sources deb http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main06:47
xquizitdeb-src http://www.os-works.com/debian testing mai06:47
kpetersongoldfish: I was not able to find it on ubuntuguide.org06:48
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kpetersongeneo93: I followed that guide, but even after adding all the necesary repositories, I get errors when trying apt-get (some of the dependent libraries are not available it seems)06:50
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crimsunxquizit: did you run ,,sudo apt-get update''?06:51
ellsanyone know why my mp3 wont work. any special driver i need06:51
geneo93kpeterson:  i getting it now just fine06:51
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MacPlusG3ells: see Restircted formats in the wiki06:51
xquizitcrimsun, yes I did I even did it again now, and I got the same results06:51
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MacPlusG3ells: mp3 is patent encumbered, so there's extra hoops to jump through.06:51
geneo93kpeterson:  apt-get update06:51
ellsMacPlusG3: I mean, I thought I had all the drivers I needed06:51
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crimsunxquizit: please paste the error onto http://pastebin.ca06:52
xquizitok06:52
ellsMacPlusG3: I have gstreamer, and w32 codecs. what else06:52
MacPlusG3ells: you want the lame packages (including the gstreamer ones)06:52
MacPlusG3ells: LAME = Lame is not An MP3 Encoder06:53
ellsMacPlusG3: how many lames are there06:53
MacPlusG3ells: although it is06:53
ellsMacPlusG3: thought I had that one, will check06:53
MacPlusG3ells: not that many... a search in the package manager should only show up a few. (granted it's been a while since i installed it)06:53
xquizitcrimsun, here it is http://pastebin.ca/830006:53
geneo93ells get all the gstreamer packages06:53
ellsMacPlusG3: okay06:54
MacPlusG3ells: sholud be something like gstreamer0.8-lame06:54
kpetersongeneo93: I did do that, still having the problem. Specifically, it says that libarts, libdvdread, and others have unresolvable dependencies.  Are you using warty and trying to install the 386 version?06:54
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ellsMacPlusG3, shouldnt the gstreamer0.8-plugins do the trick, will all the plugins06:55
geneo93no 586 version06:55
geneo93mines done06:55
MacPlusG3ells: i think it does. check the wiki, it's memory is less rusty than mine :)06:55
ellsMacPlusG3, just cant for the life of me, understand why I cannot get any sound from my mp3 or ut200406:56
crimsunxquizit: and your /etc/apt/sources.list06:56
xquizitok06:56
geneo93MacPlusG3:  i dunno kde played mine just fine by default install06:56
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xquizitcrimsun, http://pastebin.ca/830106:57
MacPlusG3geneo93: haven't used kde in about 5 years :)06:58
kpetersongeneo93: any clue what my problem might be?06:58
crimsunxquizit: that's because you're running warty06:58
geneo93nope i went right to hoary when i installed this time06:58
xquizitcrimsun, do I really have to use hoary then06:58
crimsunxquizit: nope. Just comment out (or remove) the os-works lines, update, and install xfce406:59
geneo93kpeterson:  you have broadband06:59
xquizitcrimsun, but that installes and old version 4.006:59
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crimsunxquizit: you'd need to install a lot of libraries to compile 4.207:00
kpetersongenoe93: Im not sure I understand.  Are you asking me if I do? If so, then yes.07:00
crimsunxquizit: 4.0.6 is not very old07:00
kreze1I just upgraded from Debian Sid to Ubuntu Hoary, and I've lost all the icons on my Gnome desktop. How can I recreate them?07:00
xquizitcrimsun, ok what if I upgraded to hoary, would it work then?07:00
crimsunxquizit: yes, with os-works07:01
geneo93kpeterson:  chage your repositories to hoary then and get lastest ubuntu07:01
xquizitok then, well thank you for your help :D07:01
crimsunnp07:01
kpetersongeneo93: Is that a wise choice at this point anyways? I will not experience other problems from updating, will I?07:03
geneo93not really07:03
kpetersonIs it worth it?07:03
geneo93gnome menu editer is broken is about all iirc07:03
geneo93kpeterson:  yes07:04
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corzahey guys i installed skype ( i think well it comes up in the applications anyway ) and when i click on it it doesnt do anything07:05
pablo928Has anyone made an educated guess at how many computers are now running Ubuntu?07:05
corzaan educated guess?07:05
geneo93corza:  call it from terminal and see what that says07:05
chavopablo928, well there's 1 at my house.07:06
corzageneo93: how do i do that07:06
pablo928There's two at mione07:06
geneo93just type skype in terminal07:06
corzak07:06
chavohmm, that's at least 3 so far.07:07
corzak it says07:07
corzageneo93: libqt-mt.so.3 cannot be shared object file no such file or directory07:07
corzashould i go and download the thing?07:07
pablo928Just curious. For a very new distro seems like it's getting a lot of attention.07:08
geneo93yeah do a search for that in synaptic07:08
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corzayeah i just did it didnt work07:08
corzapablo928: its because its good07:08
geneo93use diff than name the07:08
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chavopablo928, yes, it is pretty awesome. Actually running kubuntu here.07:08
corzachavo: shame on you :P07:09
geneo93corza:  it maybe in description07:09
corzageneo: downloading a few now see if it works07:09
pablo928 corza:It's my first experience with linux. So far, very good.07:09
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corzapablo928: its about my fourth or fifth and by far the best07:10
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corzageneo93: k its working now07:10
geneo93cool07:10
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pablo928 corza:Now, about the only time i boot windows is to upgrade antivirus and spyware programs.07:11
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rafaelHI07:11
syndhey guys i got the live version of hoary on disk and when i boot up with it on my PPC, it loads up with a split screen down07:11
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odie5533Are there any decent C/C++/Java IDE's besides Eclipse? I hate this project stuff...07:12
syndnd i can only see like 1/4 of the desktop07:12
syndbut they are mirrored on top of each other07:13
corzapablo928: how true that is.. i have been using this distro for about 4 days now last night i went back onto windows and after about an hour of using it it crashed i was like fuck this i'm going to bed and since then i've only been on ubuntu lol.. what i'm trying to do now is configure it so it suits me and then i'll be all good :D07:13
pablo928 corza:i forgot, i need to boot windows to watch tv, haven't gotten my tv tuner set up yet in hoary.07:14
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geneo93odie5533:  try qt desigher07:14
odie5533designer?07:15
corzapablo928: yeah these things take time.. i'm still trying to get my mouse work properly (7 buttons)07:15
geneo93yeah it has c and c++07:15
syndhello?07:15
corzai'm not too worried about my 62+ extra functions on my keyboard lol07:15
odie5533apt-getting07:15
odie5533does it do java too?07:15
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geneo93i think it has module for that07:16
pablo928 corza:yes i've got 5 buttons and only 3 work07:16
odie5533nice GUI07:16
odie5533very fast, I like it so far07:16
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odie5533module, can you explain a bit?07:17
geneo93addons07:17
corzapablo928: well i have 7, all of them work.. ( i fiddled and configured it a bit) except.. the back and forward buttons scroll and the scroller goes back and forward07:17
pablo928 corza:in /system/prefrences/keyboard shortcuts you can find a lot of things to do with those extra keys07:18
corzaoh yeah lol :P07:18
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geneo93python module forexample07:19
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pablo928 corza:how do you like the kde desktop? I tried both and settled on gnome.07:19
kpetersongeneo93: Thank you for your help, but I am new to Linux and I think I will stick with Warty because I assume there is more documentation about it/problems with it.07:19
jeavishello07:19
jeaviswhere I have a doc for hoary ubuntu07:19
jeavislike07:19
corzapablo928: its ok but i rather gnome way better its much more useful07:19
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jeavishttp://ubuntuguide.org07:20
geneo93kpeterson:  in one week hoary will be released07:20
Cavemanguys got a quick question, can one upgrade from one release to the next with apt ?07:20
geneo93kpeterson:  its really nice now07:20
kpetersongeneo93: I just mean things like ubuntuguide.org, they seem to be geared towards warty, you know?07:21
geneo93Caveman:  yes07:21
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corzapablo928: thanks dude i just realised i could use my keyboard :)07:21
Cavemangeneo93: wonderful, thanks :)07:21
geneo93kpeterson:  it will change soon07:21
corzaCaveman: off of Yahoo??07:21
Cavemancorza: nope, I dont have yahoo07:21
corzaah ok nevermind then07:22
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kpetersongeneo93: *sigh* fine07:22
geneo93Caveman:  if you have gaim you can have07:22
pablo928 corza:When I set mine up I found most of my keys i could assign a function to07:22
Cavemanyeah I have gaim,07:22
corzapablo928: yeah me too i cant for some but most i can :)07:22
geneo93kpeterson:  most everybody here has made the change07:22
CavemanI think msn, irc, aim, jabber and irc are enough.07:23
corzapablo928: i assigned my media ones to it and thats about all i use anyway07:23
corzaCaveman: no it just that i met a guy in Yahoo Chat a while ago with 'caveman' as his user07:23
jeaviswhere I can get info for hoary like http://ubuntuguide.org07:23
Cavemancorza: fair enough :)07:23
corzaCaveman: sure is :P where ya from?07:24
pablo928 corza:i added a firefox launcher shortcut, but i never fremember to use it07:24
AcidWolfbrb reboot07:24
Br34chBy average, how long does it take for the CDs to be transported from the day it's ordered?07:24
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Cavemancorza: australia07:24
corzapablo928: yeah i just use the launcher on the top next to the system dropdown menu thing07:24
Cavemanyou ?07:24
corzaCaveman: yes QLD07:24
CavemanOh sydney here.07:24
Cavemanfirst time in the channel in fact..07:25
corzaCaveman: make that NQLD then :P lol.. kicked bulldogs ass last week07:25
kpetersongeneo93: Once I change my repositories list, how do i get everything to update?07:25
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Cavemanlong time debian user..07:25
corzaCaveman: kicked Warriors ass today07:25
Cavemanhowever its lost its way :)07:25
Cavemancorza: haha don't remind me :P07:25
corzaCaveman: =D07:25
corzaCaveman: yeah i've used a few distros none compare to Ubuntu for sure07:26
geneo93ok best way is to do apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade kpeterson07:26
Cavemancorza: yeah, I am happy with my current setup, however its just too much of a pain in the ass to get off the ground.07:26
Cavemanthe installer is a pain in the ass.07:26
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Cavemandebian installer that is.07:26
corzaCaveman: yeah it is07:27
corzaCaveman: i found the Ubuntu installer piss easy07:27
Cavemanseems that ubuntu is debian with all the bad bits removed :)07:27
corzaCaveman: it was like heaven on an installer lol except it had no graphical.. that was the only downside07:27
geneo93but its worth not giving your money to microsoft07:27
Cavemancorza: thats nice to hear.07:27
Cavemancorza: bugger07:27
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kpetersongeneo93: sorry could have looked that one up.  I sure hope MPlayer install works after this :-P07:28
corzado u think its ever worth giving ur money to microsoft lol07:28
Cavemanhow does the instaler deal with things like nvidia cards ?07:28
corzagiving ur money to microsoft is like giving ur money to telstra07:28
corzai hate telstra so much07:28
Cavemancorza: yep, me too.07:28
corzaCaveman: i'm a NODE :)07:28
CavemanI am with optus, almost as bad..07:28
corzaCaveman: internode all the way07:28
Cavemancool07:28
corzaCaveman: its excellent just got adsl enabled in my exchange the other day. they are fast reliable and the customer support is great07:29
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CavemanNICE :D07:29
CavemanI am too far from my exchange for adsl07:29
corzaCaveman: and the best thing is the unmetered content.. it has a mirror for ubuntu.. so all my updates and everything are UNMETERED :) lol07:29
Cavemanhaha07:29
Cavemanvery useful.07:29
corzait is07:29
Cavemancan ubuntu run kde ?07:30
CavemanI know the default is gnome.07:30
corzait can07:30
Cavemanbut I am gussing apt-get install kde fixes that?07:30
jeavisheit07:30
geneo93Caveman:  yes do a apt-get install kde07:30
corzaor Synaptic.. i find synaptic to be my buddy07:30
jeaviswhere I can watch docs for hoary07:30
Cavemanhehe yeah07:30
Cavemanits a good tool.07:30
Cavemandoes ubuntu have aptitude ?07:30
SiRrUsCaveman take a  look in the topic07:31
corzayeah its weird coz i read a review somewhere that said it was 'hard to use' and i was sketchy of using it then i got into it and i was like wow this is easy lol07:31
CavemanSiRrUs: about kubuntu ?07:31
SiRrUsCaveman yep07:31
Cavemanyeah I saw that.07:32
Cavemannice to see its coming with kde 3.407:32
geneo93Caveman:  its great07:32
Cavemangeneo93: you using it ?07:32
geneo93yes07:32
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Cavemancool.07:32
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geneo93watching SNL here on computer07:33
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CavemanI have a friend who is getting into linux, and I was thinking of debian, but that installer is just too much.. but ubuntu looks ideal.07:33
httpdsshow can i change the font size of qt designer ???07:33
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geneo93maybe you need qt-config07:34
ellsanyone know why I cannot get mp3s to play in linux07:34
geneo93ells get kde07:34
ellsgeneo93, will that make a difference07:35
geneo93well it played them witout all the other stuff right off07:35
corzaargh my keyboard shortcuts arent working for xmms07:35
theantixgeneo93: why are you giving such poor advice?  he wants to play mp3s not install kde07:35
ellsgeneo93: will try that07:35
Cavemanells: what player you using ?07:35
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theantixells: do you want to play mp3s in rhymbox?07:36
ruffianHi07:36
corzaeek rhythem box is shit!!07:36
geneo93theantix:  its not poor advice for newbe07:36
KazuhiroAny one working on documenting setting up a chroot with more newbie friendly instructions?07:36
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ellstheantix, I would like to, yes07:36
Cube-nessanybody know why lately in hoary xorg is ay slow.. screen updtes and such?  it never used to be that way.  i stil have hw ogl and such, but the screeen is very unresponsive in both gnome and kde07:36
Cube-nesshi geneo9307:36
corzaells: get xmms dude07:36
Cavemanells:  I don't know much about ubuntu but I have used linux a long time and I fail to see how installing kde will help :)07:36
ruffianI am trying to install the fglrx driver, but it gives me two options,  xorg-driver-fglrx 6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu807:36
ruffian  xfree86-driver-fglrx 4.3.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu807:36
geneo93hey Cube-ness07:36
ellscorza, xmms locks up on me every single time07:36
corzaells: really??07:36
ellscorza, yeap07:37
Megabyte405ruffian: choose the xorg one if you use hoary, xfree86 if you're warty.07:37
theantixells: you want to install the gstreamer plugin to play mp3s, the package name is gstreamer0.8-mad07:37
ruffianMegabyte405: Thank you07:37
ellsCaveman, I am upset that none of my mpe will work07:37
ellstheantix, installed07:37
corzaells: geez, worked like a charm for me coz i couldnt get my .mp3 files working on rhythembox and i added that package07:37
Megabyte405not a problem.07:37
Megabyte405later all07:37
ellscorza, i have all the gstreamer installed07:37
corzaells: i tried everything to get mp3 files working on it lol but yeah have u tried mplayer?07:37
Cavemanells: hm ok, do you get any error from your player ?07:37
jeavisHow I can intall emacs07:37
corzaells: i believe you, because it didnt resolve it for me either07:38
theantixells: you then might need to login/logout of gnome, or run gsr-register07:38
Cavemancan you run it command line and see if it tosses something back.07:38
ellsCaveman, hold one and I will get it for ya07:38
geneo93Cube-ness:  my kde is very quick and i have all the updates07:38
Cavemanalso try that gsr-register thing.07:38
ellstheantix, what is gsr-register07:38
tritiumells, I looked for you when I logged in.07:38
SiRrUsells what are you using for your sound output plugin07:38
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ellstritium: Mike am I ever having issues07:38
theantixells: from the command line type "gst-register", that registers the gstreamer plugins you have installed07:38
tritiumells, now what?  nvidia still?07:38
jeavisHow I can Install Emacs07:38
SiRrUshello tritium07:39
ruffianbrb07:39
ellstritium: well nvidia is fixed07:39
geneo93Trit no we got that fixed07:39
tritiumjeavis, emacs is already installed by default07:39
ruffianjeavis: sudo apt-get install emacs07:39
tritiumhello SiRrUs07:39
ellstritium: no mp3 playability07:39
ruffianbrb07:39
tritiumells, with what player?07:39
ellsrhtyhmbox07:39
tritiumells, do you have gstreamer0.8-mad?07:39
ellstritium: fairly certain07:39
corzatritium: yes he does. i done the same thing i did and it didnt work for me either (i think anyway)07:39
theantixells: definately try gst-register then, that should be all you'd need07:40
corzaells: have u tried mplayer?07:40
ellstheantix, will try07:40
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tritiumcorza, it should work...it works for me07:40
tritiumells, corza double check that you have it07:40
ellscorza, mplayer is not available07:40
jeavistritium; I have hoary ubuntu07:40
ellstritium: will do07:40
Cavemandoes anyone know if  gst-register needs to be run as root as well as user ?07:40
tritiumjeavis, you should have it then07:40
theantixCaveman: running as local user is fine07:40
caliberHow can I make tcpdump ignore the SSH data that is continously being sent by me telnetting to the machine?07:40
caliberlike not monitor port 2207:41
corzaells: have u added universe and multiverse to the repositories?07:41
ellsroot@stevesnetwork:/home/steve # gst-register07:41
tritiumjeavis, under Applications->Accessories07:41
ellsbash: gst-register: command not found07:41
Cavemantheantix: and running as root will have a global affect ?07:41
jeavistritium; root@jeavis:~# emacs07:41
jeavisbash: emacs: command not found07:41
jeavisroot@jeavis:~#07:41
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ellscorza, think so07:41
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tritiumjeavis, well, if you really don't have it, apt-get install emacs2107:42
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tritiumells, so do you have it?07:42
ellstritium: one sec , checking07:42
jeavistritium; ok 2107:42
sridwhere is the 'Human' or 'Industrial' cursor theme installed?07:42
tritiumjeavis, apt-cache search emacs if you want to see what's available07:43
theantixCaveman: I'm not sure, but I think logging in/out has the same effect07:43
Cavemantheantix: fair enough..07:43
Cavemanbeen having issues with the crossfade etc in amarok and wondering if its something to do with a gstreamer update  a whle back.07:43
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tritiumells, sorry about AZ07:44
tritiumthey kept it closer than I expected07:44
ellstritium: tell me bout it, I was extremeloy pissed07:44
ellstritium: I had to go and work on my computer. i was way way way pissed07:45
tritiumells, how do you have your Multimedia Systems Selector setup?07:45
tritiumells, don't get too worked up about it.  It's not healthy ;)07:45
ellstritium: not sure, will check that too. I just have to wait a sec, I am installing something07:45
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tritiummplayer?  bah07:46
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tritiumyou really don't need that just for mp3 ;)07:46
tritiumit's nice for other things, of course07:46
geneo93Cube-ness:  you do fschk07:46
ellstritium: mplayer wont install, it says broken packages07:46
syn-ackAll one needs is XM radio. Thats pure goodness. :p07:46
tritiumells, no biggie imho07:46
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theantixells: "gst-register" doesn't work??  you need to install libgstreamer0.8-0 then07:47
geneo93ells i just insralled it07:47
ellsgstreamer0.8-mad is already the newest version.07:47
ells0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.07:47
crimsungst-register-0.8, please.07:47
syn-acktritium: when you dont have any commericals, you would think different07:47
tritiumells, run gstreamer-properties please07:47
crimsunthe old version (0.6) is gst-register07:47
tritiumsyn-ack, not worth the $07:47
ellstritium: okay07:47
syn-acktritium: I only pay $6.99 a month. ;)07:48
theantixcrimsun: for me it's a symlink to the new one07:48
ellstritium: okay, what am I looking for07:48
tritiumells, I just want to know what you have setup07:48
crimsuntheantix: ah, not here, though.07:48
ellstritium: oss, and esd07:48
jeavisthanks to all07:49
tritiumells, are you running the sound server?  change them both to esd07:49
ellsokay07:49
ellstritium: did the test and it said failed to connect07:49
corzaUbuntu is by far the most popular Distro to date07:49
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helloyois hoary preview meant to have a boot splash? i just saw the word splash when it was booting somewhere, but there was no splash07:51
tritiumells, I'm calling in the big guns, if I can...07:51
ellstritium; okay07:51
tritiumells, what about nvidia?07:51
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tritiumells, that seems like a more fundamental sound problem07:52
ellstritium: got that one fixed07:52
coreDumped69I need help :-(07:52
tritiumells, good07:52
tritiumells, with dpkg-reconfigure?07:52
ellstritium: went to play ut2004, no sound07:52
ellstritium: just kept tweaking it07:52
tritiumells, good for you.  Way to go, buddy.07:52
ellstritium: hey it is fun to get it working07:52
ellstritium: this sound thing has be stumped07:53
ellsI have regular system sound07:53
tritiumells, hold on a second re: the sound07:53
tritiumwhich chipset?07:53
coreDumped69I got ubuntu installed on my friend's system... it boots but when it switches to graphics mode, the comp locks up and I can't even switch to another terminal07:53
ellstritium: who me07:53
tritiumells, yes07:53
ellstritium: aw, nvidia07:53
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tritiumells, lsmod | grep snd gives you what?07:54
ellsokay,hold one07:54
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tritiumdon't paste.  use pastebin.com07:54
coreDumped69how can I get ubuntu to stop before gdm?07:55
ellstritium: do you see it07:55
tritiumells, yes, thanks07:55
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tritiumells, that's very nearly my setup07:56
tritiumells, is esd running?07:56
tritiumells, pgrep esd07:56
ellstritium: okay, how can I check, okay07:56
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ellsroot@stevesnetwork:/home/steve # pgrep esd07:56
ells793407:56
tritiumokay, it is07:56
crimsundid you say which card you have, ells?  cat /proc/asound/modules07:57
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tritiumells, big guns have arrived.07:57
tritium:)07:57
ellstritium cool07:57
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geneo93Cube-ness:  have you checked fs lately07:58
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coreDumped69anybody know how to boot ubuntu to stop before going into gdm, and just stop at the login prompt?07:59
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geneo93coreDumped69:  no but you can do telint308:00
ellscrimsun: sorry08:00
ellscrimsun, you were saying08:00
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crimsunells: cat /proc/asound/modules08:01
ellscrimsun: 0 snd_intel8x008:02
wilbertokihello, I am new to ubuntu from debian and I was wondering what ubuntus version of rcconf is to select which services start at boot?08:02
crimsunells: sound works everywhere save ut2k4?08:03
ellscrimsun, no mp3 audio08:03
ellseither08:03
coreDumped69geno, telint3? the computer is locking up switching to graphics mode, so I'd like to prevent it from starting gdm08:03
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tritiumwilbertoki, 1.8 in Warty.  1.11 in Hoary08:03
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wilbertokitritium: I am running hoary , what is 1.11??08:03
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tritiumcoreDumped69, no, telinit to different runlevels is not how to stop gdm08:03
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tritiumwilbertoki, rcconf08:04
geneo93ctrl alt backspace sould kill x08:04
tritiumthat's what you asked about, right, wilbertoki ?08:04
crimsunells: even with beep-media-player or xmms?08:04
coreDumped69no, the computer completely locks up... can't even ctrl-alt-f108:04
ellscrimsun: xmms locks every time08:04
geneo93ctrl alt f1 will get you xterm08:04
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ellscrimsun: i usually ue rhtymbox08:05
tritiumgeneo93, not an xterm, actually.  A virtual console08:05
geneo93well it works when x dont08:05
tritiumyes08:05
ellscrimsun; can even double click. it goes to totem, and it says it cannot play mp308:05
crimsunells: and you installed 'gstreamer0.8-mad' from universe?08:05
coreDumped69but once it switches to graphics mode, it hard locks... no way to boot from grub to prevent it from going to gdm? gdm isn't in a different runlevel?08:05
ellscrimsun: I have it installed, not sure where from though08:06
tritiumcoreDumped69, have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?08:06
tritiumcoreDumped69, (assuming you're running Hoary)08:06
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geneo93tritium:  he prolly cant08:06
coreDumped69no, it's warty, and I can't check the logs, it locks up08:07
ellscrimsun: I can paste my sources on a sep. screen for ya08:07
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geneo93coreDumped69:  does it have fail safe option in grub08:07
tritiumcoreDumped69, this is the debian manual on how to disable X at boot: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start08:08
tritiumcoreDumped69, same applies for ubuntu08:08
crimsunells: dpkg -l gstreamer0.8-mad|grep ^ii|awk '{ print $3 }'08:08
coreDumped69tritium: thanks, i'll give it a try08:08
tritiumcoreDumped69, no problem08:08
ellsokay, hold one08:08
ellscrimsun, okay08:09
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Roeycrimsun:  better here?08:09
wilbertokitritium: sorry I was gone -- yes rcconf -- I can use rcconf right? But I was thinking ubuntu might have added something nicer08:10
crimsunRoey: best here.08:10
Roeyok08:10
Roeydidn't realize that was not the place08:10
tritiumwilbertoki, I don't see why not.08:10
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Roeycrimsun:  so anyway, you have that link?08:10
crimsunRoey: read, and it looks like debian/rules is severely broken08:10
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Roeycrimsun:  ok08:11
fabbioneRoey: it's nothing personal really :-) and don't worry.. we don't bite ;)08:11
Roeyfabbione:  =)08:11
ellscrimsun: root@stevesnetwork:/home/steve # dpkg -l gstreamer0.8-mad|grep ^ii|awk `{print $3} `08:11
ellsbash: {print: command not found08:11
Roeyfabbione:  there are a few other issues I want to ask of you (that are related to kernel drivers)08:11
mrquickhey is anyone able to play dvds' in totem on hoary hedgehog?08:11
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fabbioneRoey: just ask, if i don't answer, somebody will08:11
crimsunells: gotta use the precise syntax I used08:12
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crimsunells: not ` but '08:12
tritiummrquick, most people find xine-ui or gxine easier to use with dvd playback08:12
ellscrimsun: 0.8.8-1ubuntu408:12
Roeyfabbione:  oh I will, I don't wanna lose my train of thought on the current issue08:12
ellscriimsun: thanks08:12
crimsunells: ok, good08:12
ellscrimsun: what next08:12
tritiummrquick, you'll need libdvdcss2 from Marillat's repo most likely08:12
Roeyfabbione:  but did you see what crimsun wrote here above, that debian/rules for the linux-wacom-kernel package is severely broken?08:12
crimsunells: and what was the result of (re)executing ,,sudo gst-register-0.8'' ?08:12
ellscrimsun: will try hold one08:13
Roeyfabbione, crimsun:  is it something I can fix in-place? or should I contact the module maintainers and tell them to get it in shape?08:13
crimsunRoey: you should file a bug against its BTS entry08:13
Roeyfabbione, crimsun:  this tablet has been laying on the table for the past year because of driver issues, and this is the closest I've come to solving them.08:13
ellscrimsun: root@stevesnetwork:/home/steve # sudo gst-register-8.808:13
ellssudo: gst-register-8.8: command not found08:13
Roeycrimsun:  I don't know what to say there08:13
mrquicktritium, I've got libdvdread and that seems to work for mplayer, but totem just freezes08:14
tritiumells, 8.008:14
fabbioneRoey: checking.. just a sec08:14
ellstritium: okay08:14
tritiumells, 0.8, rather08:14
fabbionedpkg -p linux-wacom-kernel08:14
fabbionePackage `linux-wacom-kernel' is not available.08:14
fabbioneRoey: what package is that?08:14
dcmexcuse me08:14
tritiummrquick, that's not enough for encrypted dvds08:14
ellstritium; it loaded some plugings08:14
Roeywacom-kernel-modules-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic - wacom modules for Linux kernel-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic08:15
dcmI just came here to ask for some signatures on my petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/ubl1111/08:15
Roeyfabbione:  wacom-kernel-source - Source for the wacom binary modules08:15
Roeyfabbione:  try installing that08:15
tritiumells, okay.  that's what crimsun wanted to know08:15
Roeyfabbione:  and try --enabling "hid", "usbmouse", "mousedev", "evdev", "tabletdev" in debian/rules08:15
mrquicktritium, that's what I was thinking but mplayer seems to be decrypting without libdvdcss2 I know I haven't installed it08:15
ellstritium: should I restart my pc, it still would not play mp308:15
Burgundaviahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit08:15
Roeyfabbione:  then make a deb package out of it08:15
Burgundaviacan anyone else see the chars on that page08:15
Roeyfabbione:  install the package,08:15
Burgundavia?08:16
Roeyfabbione:  dpkg -L the package08:16
crimsunRoey: the problem is that the conditional test for wacom.o fails to copy over the _other_ compiled modules, and for good reason, since the hid option is disabled by default in debian rules, so it won't copy over non-compiled modules08:16
tritiummrquick, maybe so, I don't know about mplayer08:16
Roeyfabbione:  and see how it doesn't install anything08:16
fabbioneRoey: that package is in universe -> not supported. You need to contact the MOTU's for it08:16
RoeyMOTU?08:16
crimsunfabbione: I'm working with him on it.08:16
ellscrimsun: what should I do now08:16
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crimsunells: sec, trying to do a few zillion things simultaneously =)08:16
Roey=)08:16
ellscrimsun, cool08:16
fabbioneRoey: and it is not supposed to create a deb, but needs to be used together with kernel-package and module-assistant (or something like that)08:16
Roeyfabbione:  ok08:17
blawsonCan anyone help me with a ACPI problem on an Inspirion 8600 laptop? I can get it to suspend to RAM, but when it resumes, I get a screensaver looking thing with lines all through it and I am forced to reboot to correct this08:17
tritiumells, give a quick try with rhythmbox again now08:17
Roeyfabbione:  well, the heart of the matter is that this module provides replacement drives for hid, usbmouse, evdev, and mousedev.08:17
ellstritium; okay08:17
crimsunRoey: the easiest way to work around it presently is to copy over all the other modules08:17
tritiumblawson, did you try Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to X ?08:17
Roeyfabbione:  without them, you can't use the tablet and a USB mouse together.08:17
Roeycrimsun:  that's just it, I can't find them anywhere08:17
blawsontritium, let me try that now08:18
crimsunRoey: that's because they're not copied over in debian/rules, like I said above08:18
tritiumblawson, upon resume, that is....08:18
Roeycrimsun:  I meant, I can't find them in the src/08:18
ellstritium: I am jamming now, with my tunes08:18
Roeycrimsun:  oh08:18
Roeycrimsun:  you mean,08:18
tritiumells, super08:18
Roeycrimsun:  copy the module sources08:18
ellstritium: as always you guys are the bomb08:18
Roeycrimsun:  and then build the new kernel completely08:18
ellsthanks tritium: crimsun08:18
tritiumells, it was crimsun this time that helped you08:18
Kazuhirocrimsun, Thanks for your help the other day!08:19
ellstritium: like any general, you gotta have good partners08:19
crimsunKazuhiro: np08:19
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crimsunells: np, tritium walked you through it.08:19
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DragoraNhi08:19
Kazuhirocrimsun, It would seem more x86_64 packages need to be made, is this the case?08:19
ellscrimsun, thanks anyway08:19
blawsontritum: nope that doesnt work, the keyboard seems totally unresponsive on resume08:19
crimsunRoey: no, I meant fixing debian/rules.  Sec, I'll try to generate one for you.08:19
BurgundaviaRoey: you running Hoary?08:19
RoeyBurgundavia:  aye08:19
tritiumells, who was the other with a similar problem?08:19
tritiumis he still here?08:20
crimsunKazuhiro: in what sense?08:20
ellstritium: I forget08:20
RoeyBurgundavia:  I hope that kubuntu will someday detect this and automatically Make It So for the end user08:20
BurgundaviaRoey: can you see the inuit chars on these page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit08:20
tritiumells, well, if you see him, pass on the knowledge :)08:20
RoeyBurgundavia:  no, they're all squares08:20
RoeyBurgundavia:  but don't you need Inuit fonts?08:20
BurgundaviaRoey: ok. I will file a bug report08:20
RoeyBurgundavia:  do you speak Inuit?08:20
BurgundaviaRoey: no08:20
ellstritium: will do08:20
tritiumells, okay, so what next?08:20
Kazuhirocrimsun, Things such as mplayer, and the sources listed on the wiki are producing errors, and such when following the wiki things dont seem to work as listed.08:20
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BurgundaviaRoey: they should display though08:20
RoeyBurgundavia:  maybe I should change my encoding08:21
ellstritium: well, I am gonna see if the sound will now work on ut200408:21
Kazuhirocrimsun, or its me :)08:21
BurgundaviaRoey: when did you install?08:21
ellstritium: my kids want to play it08:21
RoeyBurgundavia:  last week.08:21
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BurgundaviaRoey: ok then, shouldn't be an issue08:21
tritiumells, okay.  Isn't that kind of violent for kids?08:21
ellstritium: be right back08:21
ellstritium: I turn it down08:21
tritiumyour call, not mine, anyway ;008:21
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ellstritium: they get to shoot, but no blood08:21
tritium:)08:21
lancelotthi08:21
tritiumcool08:22
Burgundaviacrimsun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit -- can you also confirm that all you see is squares for the inuit chars?08:22
Roeyells:  how old are they?08:22
ellstritium: I am like you, I dont want my kids seeing the blood08:22
dcmCan I please get some signatures: http://www.petitiononline.com/ubl1111/?08:22
ellsRoey, 808:22
ellsRoey, I will be here with him08:22
tritiumells, cool.  I'm thinking you may need to disable the sound server for the game to have sound, but give it a try08:22
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Burgundaviadcm: if that is a joke, it is a sick one08:22
ellstritium: will try it, be right back08:23
crimsunBurgundavia: I'm running Firefox 1.0.2 on XP, but I get question marks.08:23
Burgundaviadcm: if it isn't, I suggest you remove yourself from the community08:23
dcmIt's not a joke...08:23
Roeyells, tritium:  wow, hooray for parental involvement :) this is just what the US needs -- not govt involvement (imo)08:23
crimsunKazuhiro: amd64 uses a different mplayer repo08:23
dcmI'm trying to help the future of Ubunut08:23
dcmUbuntu*08:23
lancelottubunut? xd08:23
RoeySit, Ubunut, sit.08:23
dcmI don't know this nigger slang :<08:23
Roey(who was a real dog btw)08:23
crimsunKazuhiro: are you using [deb http://cyberspace.ucla.edu/marillat/ unstable main] ?08:23
tritiumdcm stop that right now!08:24
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Roeydcm:  ??08:24
BurgundaviaUbunut (oo-boon-nut) noun: A crazy user of Ubuntu08:24
HiPn0t|zEhurro08:24
dcmWhat?08:24
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Kazuhirocrimsun, nope08:24
ellstritium; I think you are right08:24
HiPn0t|zEso lyke. . how do i use ubuntu08:24
tritiumdcm, your racism is highly offensive and has no place here whatsoever08:24
HiPn0t|zEim downloading the liveCD version now08:24
ellstritium: how can I do that08:24
crimsundcm: please observe the CoC08:24
dcmI'm not racist08:24
Kazuhirocrimsun, deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ main unstable08:25
HiPn0t|zEhow do i get online08:25
Burgundaviadcm: if you advertise that again, I will be forced to report that to the Community council, which will probably get you banned from this channel08:25
tritiumells, System->Preferences->Sound will toggle the setting for future sessions, but you'll have to kill the currently running esd08:25
Burgundaviadcm: and I am very serious08:25
HiPn0t|zEhow do i get online with a dlink 200 usb08:25
crimsundcm: [http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct] 08:25
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ellstritium: okay08:25
HiPn0t|zEi have dlink 20008:25
TwiggyHow do I turn dma on on my /dev/hdc08:26
crimsunKazuhiro: please use the repo I gave you08:26
crimsunKazuhiro: that one has amd64 debs08:26
HiPn0t|zEhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/08:26
BurgundaviaTwiggy: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc08:26
HiPn0t|zEehbwoiahneoibhnwaioejhbio08:26
dcm?_?08:26
dcmWhy are you guys mad at me?08:26
TwiggyBurgundavia:  Thankya08:26
tritiumdcm, you know exactly why.08:26
BurgundaviaTwiggy: read the whole man hdparm. Some good other tweaks there, but READ the man page first08:26
crimsunplease reread the CoC if you're unclear.08:26
HiPn0t|zEracist fuck08:26
dcmI'm trying to help the future of the distro08:26
tritiumHiPn0t|zE, that doesn't help any08:26
crimsunHiPn0t|zE: that's not helping, either08:26
Bazzidcm: you may leave _now_.08:27
HiPn0t|zEhrm08:27
HiPn0t|zEokay08:27
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BurgundaviaHiPn0t|zE: that also doesn't help08:27
tritiumdcm, our community is built upon respect08:27
crimsunguys, the best way is just to ignore him/her instead of insulting him/her08:27
HiPn0t|zEokays08:27
dcmI'm not being disrespectful...08:27
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HiPn0t|zE:)08:27
dcmI politely asked for support for my petition08:27
Roeyteh08:27
ellstritium; when I am done, how to bring back the sound for the system and music08:28
Burgundaviaells: 'esd &'08:28
tritiumells, esd -nobeeps08:28
HiPn0t|zEdoes ubuntu have drivers for usb modems ?08:28
ellstritium: cool08:28
crimsunHiPn0t|zE: yes, through the standard usbnet drivers that are included in the kernel08:28
tritiumells, just don't change the Sound Preferences settings, and you'll be all set at next login08:28
HiPn0t|zEcrimsun is there a list of some sort so i can check for my modem ?08:29
dcmHelp secure the future of the Ubunutu Linux distro.: http://www.petitiononline.com/ubl1111/08:29
tritiumdcm, it's your petition that's the problem.  Now that's the last we'll discuss it08:29
ellstritium; have to wait to the login, okay08:29
tritiumells, don't have to.  You can restart the sound server now08:29
dcmI don't see anything wrong with it08:29
crimsunHiPn0t|zE: the usbnet driver is generic and supports all usb modems that follow its standard.08:29
ellstritium; how so08:29
Burgundaviaells: if you already logged in and you need to restart your esd server, use the esd command08:29
tritiumBurgundavia, I support reporting that to the CC08:29
Burgundaviatritium: ok08:30
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HiPn0t|zEcrimsun : i have a dlink 200 usb modem , would that work08:30
ellstritium: i did that it acts like it is working, but no sound08:30
Kazuhirocrimsun, thanks again :)08:30
crimsunKazuhiro: np08:30
ellstritium: the meter is working, but no sound08:30
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crimsunHiPn0t|zE: it should (I can't vouch for that model specifically)08:30
HiPn0t|zEcrimsun : well i run pppoa08:30
crimsunRoey: (working on it)08:30
geneo93HiPn0t|zE:  what are u using for ppp08:31
HiPn0t|zEgeneo93 pppoa08:31
geneo93ok08:31
HiPn0t|zEgeneo93 but ive also used it on pppoe08:31
Roeycrimsun:  ah ok08:31
Burgundaviatritium: grabbed a log of it08:31
tritiumells, you're kidding08:31
Roeycrimsun:  I swear to god I will be very very very happy if kubuntu's next release addresses most of my issues08:31
ellstritium: nope08:32
HiPn0t|zEgeneo93 it works for both08:32
ellstritium: I am log out and see what happens08:32
Roeysorry08:32
Roeycrimsun:  I meant ubuntu08:32
tritiumBurgundavia, okay.  Thanks.08:32
Roeycrimsun:  (and the kubuntu packages as well, as I have issues with KDE there too)08:32
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tritiumBurgundavia, if you need me to gpg-sign anything, or whatever, let me know08:32
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HiPn0t|zEhttp://eciadsl.flashtux.org/tutorial.php?lang=en08:32
ellstritium: Mike who was that guy that was in here08:32
Burgundaviatritium: I am just going to report it and see what happens08:32
geneo93sure wish i could get kppp to work08:32
tritiumBurgundavia, okay08:32
HiPn0t|zEahh08:33
HiPn0t|zEtry this08:33
HiPn0t|zEhttp://eciadsl.flashtux.org/tutorial.php?lang=en08:33
ellstritium: what did he say08:33
tritiumells, he's still here.  Scroll up.  I don't want to repeat it at all08:33
ellstritium: will look, thanks08:33
dcmI propose this as the new logo08:33
dcmhttp://img196.exs.cx/img196/176/login3aw.jpg08:33
lancelottwell I'm going to go install gentoo now08:34
lancelottbye08:34
HiPn0t|zEgentoo is fun08:34
tritiumlancelott, what's the problem?08:34
lancelotttritium: nothing08:34
HiPn0t|zEbut i cant get it runnin online thats all08:34
HiPn0t|zE;\08:34
lancelotttritium: just came in here out of boredom08:34
ellstritium: it isnt there anymore08:34
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tritiumlancelott, oh, okay.  I thought you needed some ubuntu help08:34
tritiumells, yes, it's right above08:35
dcmWhat does everyone think about this as the new logo: http://img196.exs.cx/img196/176/login3aw.jpg?08:35
dcmIt needs a little more work, but it's a start08:35
HiPn0t|zEeat shit dcm08:35
dcmNo thank you08:35
HiPn0t|zEok08:35
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crimsunHiPn0t|zE: remember the CoC, please, even for people who are disrespectful.08:35
HiPn0t|zEokie dokie08:36
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Anubiscrimsun,  how do i add your repository for hoary?08:36
crimsunAnubis: my repo is specifically for Warty and will be disabled one month following Hoary's release.08:36
Anubisok08:36
Anubisthx08:36
crimsunnp08:36
Bazziisnt there anyone who can ban people from here? ;)08:37
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tritiumBazzi, not at the moment08:37
ellsdcm: i saw your jacked up petition: you need to get a life and leave08:37
HiPn0t|zEwhat's the difference between the livecd and the other version ?08:37
dcmI have a life08:38
tritiumLet's all not forget to be respectful, despite the display we've seen.  Let's all rise above it.08:38
geneo93HiPn0t|zE:  the other is install cd08:38
ellsdcm: I dont think so08:38
dcmok08:38
HiPn0t|zEdon't understand08:38
ellsdcm: take your racist crap elsewhere08:38
dcmI'm not racist08:38
ellsdcm: you can leave anytime08:38
Bazziok so lets /ignore him for a start.08:38
geneo93live cd runs off cdrom08:38
dcmok08:38
HiPn0t|zEso can i install stuff ?08:39
tritiumdcm, your petition is, by all definitions, racist08:39
geneo93no08:39
HiPn0t|zEohhh.08:39
dcmI'm sorry you feel that way08:39
HiPn0t|zEso what exactly does it do08:39
munkiHiP , Live-cd is only for running ununtu directly from the cd..08:39
ellsdcm: you must have lived a very sheltered life08:39
drummer87live is to try hoary out w/o installing to hdd08:39
tritiumdcm, please stop posting any such related material.  It is not welcome here.08:39
geneo93runs everything on that cd08:39
munkiHip , the install-cd is for installing ubuntu on your hd08:39
ellsdcm: this is a communtiy of friends, of all ethnicities08:40
HiPn0t|zEohhhh08:40
HiPn0t|zEso like.. i can't use livecd to get on the net and etc08:40
HiPn0t|zEand install drivers etc08:40
HiPn0t|zEahhhhh .. kay08:40
dcmAlright.08:40
tritiumThank you.08:40
geneo93HiPn0t|zE:  all thats done for you08:40
munkiHiP , Nah, it's just for the ones who don't wan't to install ubuntu on their machine.08:41
sridwhere is the 'Human' or 'Industrial' cursor theme installed?08:41
HiPn0t|zEahh .. hokays08:41
HiPn0t|zEbut ubuntu runs like X .. as in gui right ?08:41
munkiHip . yup08:41
geneo93yes'08:41
dcmI have a problem to report with the Ubuntu live cd08:41
HiPn0t|zEahh okay.. cuz i dont know all the cmd08:41
dcm1. It has a negro on the label08:42
dcm2. It doesn't work08:42
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tritiumdcm, you agreed to stop08:42
neomdcm - STFU08:42
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dcmI'm asking for help08:42
ellstritium: mike, my music is back08:42
neomNo one cares.08:42
tritiumneom, don't return the hatred08:42
dcmI put the live cd in my computer and booted it up but it won't work.08:42
tritiumells, super08:42
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ellstritium: i just logged out and came back08:42
tritiumells, okay08:42
ellstritium: I am listening to Josh Grobin08:43
Boohbaharen't there any ops in this channel?08:43
tritiumells, oh, okay08:43
tritiumBoohbah, not yet08:43
ellstritium: what ya listen to08:43
HiPn0t|zEso .. can i use live cd while im runnin windows. . or something . .08:43
HiPn0t|zEor do i have to reboot08:43
ellstritium: for being the next op08:43
HiPn0t|zEand let it boot of cd08:43
ellstritium: who will second it08:43
tritiumells, I listen to so many different things08:43
ellstritium: me too08:44
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drummer87Hip: u hav to reboot n it runs from the cd08:44
munkiHiP , reboot the computer..08:44
ellseverything from classical to r & b08:44
tritiumme too08:44
HiPn0t|zEahhh DAMN08:44
HiPn0t|zEi don't have anymore blanks08:44
ellstritium: great minds think alike08:44
tritium:)08:44
munkiHiP , why don't you read the nice stuff on www.ubuntulinux.org -about the live cd ?08:44
ellstritium: I will play ut2004 tomorrow08:45
ellstritium: just gonna relax now08:45
tritiumells, going to bed?08:45
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HiPn0t|zEhokays munki08:45
ellstritium: naw ,just relaxing08:45
HiPn0t|zEbut i read somewhere about just runnin the livecd in windows08:45
geneo93na08:45
tritiumells, grab a drink?08:45
ellstritium: I am picking up my pops from the airport at 2 in the morning08:46
Burgundaviatritium: done08:46
ellstritium: coke, yes08:46
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bhnaHIP maybe wtih vmware?08:46
HiPn0t|zEahh.. dw .. i re-read it. .08:46
tritiumBurgundavia, good deal.  Did you get the latest stuff?08:46
Burgundaviano, but I will get another in a sec08:46
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HiPn0t|zEso am i able to run a botnet off ubuntu08:46
Burgundaviatritium: I also got a screenshot of the webpage, in case he takes it down08:47
tritiumBurgundavia, okay08:47
crimsunRoey: is there a strict ordering for wacom.ko?08:47
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crimsunRoey: or can you point me to a url?08:47
mellohey guys, what's the terminal command to get the nvidia drivers08:47
Roeycrimsun:  the order is that you have to load it before HID08:47
Roeycrimsun:  hmm, where did I find this.. one second.08:48
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drummer87i need some help someone.. i can't mount my usb drive coz i don't have sdb in /dev08:48
dcmgood job08:48
geneo93mello:  apt-get install nvidia-glx08:48
mellothanks.08:49
geneo93np08:49
mellois nvidia-glx the driver package?08:49
BoohbahHiPn0t|zE: uh.. what kind of a question is that?08:49
fredany idea why /lib/cpp would fail a sanity check?08:49
melloor an all-around nvidia program08:49
bhnamello: yes08:49
tritiummello, the actual driver is in linux-restricted-modules08:49
drummer87is there anywhere else it can be mounted?08:49
dcmfred: You are a homosexual.08:49
crimsunRoey: have you tried loading that new wacom?08:49
melloso where is the nvidia-glx?08:49
crimsunfred: sudo apt-get --reinstall install build-essential08:50
bhnadcm: please shutdown!08:50
mellomultiverse, universe08:50
Boohbahdcm: you are only saying that because you want someone to stroke you because you don't get enough attention08:50
ellsdcm: take your kkk self and leave08:50
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crimsunmello: it's in restricted08:50
dcmBoohbah: Nope08:50
mellothanks man08:50
BurgundaviaBoohbah: please respect the CoC as well08:50
melloi'm gonna restart08:50
dcmells: The KKK is a Christian organization and I am not Christian. I suggest you not attempt to converse about things which you know nothing about.08:51
BoohbahBurgundavia: CoC? does it say something about feeding trolls?08:51
Roeycrimsun:  "For kernel 2.6 and later, you almost certainly do not need the usbmouse module because it conflicts with the full usb hid driver, usbhid, which should be used in most cases. For kernel 2.4, I recommend you to build it."08:51
Roeycrimsun:  that's (1)08:51
crimsunells: your irc client has /ignore .  It's a great feature.  :)08:51
Roeycrimsun:  (2), I'm stillt rying to find the loading order.08:51
ellsdcm: anyway you slice it, take your disrepsectful self and go be by yourself08:51
BurgundaviaBoohbah: sorry, I misread your comment08:51
ellscrimsun, thanks will use that08:51
jbass1234hi all08:51
jbass1234I have a rather strange problem08:51
Dr_WillisHmm...08:52
Burgundaviasalut jbass123408:52
jbass1234everytime I open gdesklets controls rhytmbox opens on top of this08:52
ellscrimsun, that jerk is no ignored08:52
jbass1234I've tried reinstalling it and it still does it08:52
Dr_WillisFirefox just seems to crash when  i go to a page with flash movies onit.08:52
jbass1234how do I stop rhythmbox from openinng?08:52
ellsWILL EVERYONE NOW IGNORE DCM FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY08:52
dcmPlease stop yelling little niggle08:53
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ellsWILL EVERYONE NOW IGNORE DCM FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY08:53
dcmPlease stop yelling little niggle08:53
caffinatedsomehow i think they both should go08:53
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ellscaffinated: who is that08:53
dcmells is an anti-semite08:53
XiraHi08:53
caffinatedells: you and dcm08:53
XiraI have installed Ubuntu on my main desktop08:53
crimsunells: which irc client?08:54
dcmYour cool Xira08:54
ellscaffinated, You must have me confused08:54
Xiraand it detected my Dell 1704FP and Radeon 9800 Pro 256mb08:54
Xirabut08:54
XiraWhen X starts08:54
Xiramy monitor just turns off08:54
ellscrimsun, not sure man08:54
XiraLike it's not receiving signal08:54
XiraIt's using DVI08:54
Burgundaviajbass1234: very wierd08:54
ellscaffinated: I am just wanting the site to be free of racism08:54
Burgundaviajbass1234: but having never used gdesklets, I cannot help you08:54
caffinatedells: then you should just let it drop instead of screaming in all caps at the rest of us.08:54
dcmells is an anti-semite08:55
dcmHe supports a man who destroyed 6 million of my people08:55
XiraCan anyone help me?08:55
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Roeycrimsun:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/aVxQlJ89.html08:55
Roeycrimsun:  that's the order right there.08:55
crimsunXira: warty or hoary?08:55
ellscaffinated:my bad, just get riled up about things like that, but you are right08:55
Xiracrimsun: Whichever 4.10 is08:55
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crimsunXira: Warty, ok.08:56
caffinatedells: besides, trolls go hungry when you're not feeding them ;)08:56
HiPn0t|zElike is the livecd version stable enuff to run a server08:56
BurgundaviaHiPn0t|zE: you would be taking an awful performance hit for doing so, but you could08:56
ellscaffinated: you are right my friend08:56
geneo93HiPn0t|zE:  why would you want to run a server off live cd08:56
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drummer87can someone please help me?08:57
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drummer87i can't mount my thumb drive08:57
Boohbahthe best way to deal with trolls in here would be to GET SOME OPS08:57
HiPn0t|zEcuz i dont have enough space08:57
Burgundaviadrummer87: what does dmesg say?08:57
fredhmm. why would a configure script not be able to find "X includes"08:57
crimsunfred: warty or hoary?08:57
fredhoary08:58
KazuhiroWhen setting up a chroot to use cadega, do I need to restup sound and nvidia acceleration in the chroot?08:58
crimsunfred: install libx11-dev08:58
crimsunKazuhiro: no.08:58
fredcrimsun: thanks08:58
XiraAny idea...?08:58
Xira=(08:58
Kazuhirocrimsun,  when running glxgears in the chroot it fails08:58
crimsunXira: does the normal radeon driver work?08:58
caffinatedKazuhiro: iirc, you don't need a chroot environment to use cedega08:58
Xiracrimsun: Well, it's whatever driver it detected by default08:58
drummer87http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2230908:58
XiraI tried reconfiguring it08:58
Kazuhirocrimsun, Segmentation fault08:58
Xiraand everything looked ok08:58
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Xirabut it still does it08:59
Kazuhirocaffinated, im using x86_6408:59
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Burgundaviadrummer87: you should just be able to plug it in08:59
sridwhere is the 'Human' or 'Industrial' cursor theme installed?08:59
HiPn0t|zEweeeeee08:59
HiPn0t|zE:D08:59
drummer87Burgundavia: i do but i get this from dmesg:  ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: port 1 reset error -11009:00
drummer87hub 3-0:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -32)09:00
fredcrimsun: when checking for libz i get not found. any ideas?09:00
crimsunfred: install zlib1g-dev09:00
Xiraheh09:00
Burgundaviadrummer87: what type of drive do you have?09:00
XiraI guess I have to use another distro?09:00
bhnasrid: maybe in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons09:00
Xira:-/09:00
Boohbahlamont: thank you ;)09:01
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HiPn0t|zEis there a program to launch the livecd .. cuz i dont have any blank cds09:01
crimsunXira: grep Driver /etc/X11/XF86Config-4|tail -109:01
Burgundaviasrid: look under ubuntu-artwork package09:01
drummer87Burgundavia: benq 128meg09:01
Burgundaviasrid: may be in there09:01
sridsri@infinity:~ $ ls /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/09:01
Boohbahlamont: dcm has been trolling #kubuntu too09:01
sriddefault  handhelds  redglass  whiteglass09:01
Xiracrimsun: what's that do? o.O09:01
sridkde showed me the 'Human' cursor theme09:01
drummer87Burgundavia: it sometimes works if it's plugged while booting09:01
crimsunXira: it tells me what driver XFree86 is configured to use for your graphics card09:01
lamontBoohbah: /me has no ops there09:02
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XiraHeh09:02
drummer87but otherwise i do mount and it says /dev/sdb does not exist09:02
Burgundaviadrummer87: that is odd. You running hoary or warty?09:02
XiraI guess I'd have to try intstalling Ubuntu again09:02
crimsunXira: why?09:02
drummer87hoary preview09:02
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Roeycrimsun:   I will BRB09:02
crimsunXira: oh, you don't have Ubuntu Warty installed?09:02
crimsunRoey: ok.09:02
XiraI _did_09:02
Xirabut I sort of gave up09:02
Roeycrimsun:  about mailing the maintainers,09:02
XiraI just really want to use Ubuntu09:02
Xirabecause it looks pretty promising09:02
crimsunXira: ok, it's difficult to troubleshoot if you don't have it installed ;)09:03
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Roeycrimsun:  we'll mail them your updated debian/rules?09:03
Roeycrimsun:  did you get that last link, btw09:03
jbass1234ok, one more question09:03
jbass1234how do I change the default on applications09:03
jbass1234?09:03
crimsunRoey: no, this will be tailored for you.  Yes, I got it.  Following Hoary's release, I'll hack debian/rules properly and send it back "upstream" to Debian.09:03
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Roeycrimsun:  oh thank you *so* much09:04
mellohey guys, could someone help me set up my geforceFX 520009:04
Roeycrimsun:  do you have a grasp of what files need to be loaded when?09:04
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Burgundaviadrummer87: have you tried with the livecd on your machine?09:04
crimsunRoey: yep, only usbhid.ko is important, and that is handled already.09:04
tritiummello, yes09:04
Burgundaviadrummer87: have you tried on another machine?09:04
kpetersonmello: have you tried following any guies on installing the nvidia driver?09:04
Roeycrimsun:  so usbmouse and evdev and all that I don't really need?09:04
kpeterson*guides09:04
crimsunRoey: I'm just fixing debian/rules to copy over the other compiled modules09:04
Roeycrimsun:  ok09:05
melloi searched the ubuntu webpage and didn't find anything09:05
kainI've already filled a bug report,but they told me everything is okay, but look at this: http://archive.kuht.it/gnome_hoary.png after some upgrades to ubuntu-artwork I'm not been able anymore to use those icons, only gnome ones and not Human's.. somebody has an explanation?09:05
drummer87Burgundavia: no and i have no other to try it on09:05
melloi tried sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx09:05
tritiummello the wiki has a BinaryHowto page, but I can try to help you09:05
Burgundaviadrummer87: hmm. If you have a cd burner, I would try the livecd.09:05
mellobut i ctrl+alt+backspace afterwards and didn't get the nvidia picture09:05
kainor it happens to someone else?09:05
drummer87Burgundavia: it worked in hoary array5 (i think)09:05
kpetersonmello: also this is pretty straightfoward: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver09:05
melloi'd appreciate it.. and to start, how do you enter my name before?09:05
drummer87Burgundavia: i'll try the live cd though09:06
tritiummello, I start typing it, and then use tab-completion09:06
melloah09:06
mellotritium, thanks09:06
Burgundaviadrummer87: can you confirm something for me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit <-- do you see squares on this page instead of inuit?09:06
mellosweet =] 09:06
kpetersonI have been unable to get send/recieve files working with my AIM buddies in GAIM.  It was working fine with windows on this machine.  Any ideas?09:06
tritiummello :)09:06
kainanyone using hoary gnome 2.10 and human theme?09:07
geneo93tritium:  i think he just needs to enable09:07
Burgundaviakain: yes09:07
mellotritium, what does this mean: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.09:07
tritiumgeneo93, perhaps so09:07
kainBurgundavia, try selecting human theme icons09:07
drummer87Burgundavia: yes, some squares09:08
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tritiummello, after an update?  I guess some packages were held back09:08
Burgundaviadrummer87: ok09:08
mellowill that affect the drivers?09:08
drummer87brb09:08
Burgundaviakain: and?09:08
tritiummello, well, do you know which packages they are?  did nvidia-glx install?09:08
kainBurgundavia, they are gnome icons, not human ones.. developer tell me that everything is okay and we don't use human icon theme right now, but in array 7, as see here http://archive.kuht.it/gnome_hoary.png it uses them09:09
kainor I dreamed09:09
kainhuman icons appear for devices and desktop item09:09
kainnot for mimetypes on files09:10
Burgundaviano, I see that09:10
kainthis was fixed09:10
kainbut they're gnome icons.09:10
kainnot human ones09:10
BurgundaviaI am failing to see the problem09:10
Burgundaviasorry09:10
kainBurgundavia, example09:11
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e_machinistHow goes it?09:11
kainwhich color is your trashcan09:11
kainif you have one on the desktop?09:11
e_machinistMy trashcan is blue....09:11
Burgundaviakain: I have nothing on my desktop, sorry09:11
kainselecting human icon theme btw09:11
e_machinistBut I don't have the trash can on the Desktop.09:11
e_machinistDesktop is squeaky clean.09:12
kainok, mine in light green09:12
tritiumgood night all09:12
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kainbefore the upgrade is was grey09:12
kainand much better than this icon09:12
e_machinistWhich upgrade did ya do?09:12
kainhoary with latest upgrades, I believe it depends on ubuntu-artwork09:13
kainsame thing happened on another machine09:13
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crimsunRoey: ping me when you return09:13
Roeycrimsun:  pong09:13
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kainwith this upgrade, if I select human icone theme devices show human's icon well, but not the files09:14
kainthey use gnome icon theme.09:14
crimsunRoey: replace your debian/rules with http://sh.nu/~crimsun/rules09:14
e_machinistYou prefer GNOME or KDE kain?09:14
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xquizithey guys, I got a big prob after a warty to hoary upgrade. my foreward slash turns in to  and all special charaters are 09:14
kaine_machinist, I'm trying out gnome 2.10, and I like it, before I always used kde09:14
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xquizitalso my resoution isnt 1280x80009:15
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geneo93mello get it to work09:16
kaine_machinist, try to do ls -lh /usr/share/themes/Human/scalable09:16
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e_machinistSounds fun kain. I personally don't really prefer one over the other... I have gotten kinda cozy with GNOME lately though.09:16
e_machinistKinda wish there was only one... but hey... you know, whatever.09:16
crimsunRoey: make sure I've enabled the correct options, then run it with the appropriate arguments09:16
xquizitok fixed it09:16
kainbefore the upgrade there were four directories, now they're three, "stock" is missing09:16
xquizitnow my resolution doesn want to go :/09:16
kaine_machinist, the thing that I like in gnome is its polish interface09:17
kainbut I really enjoy testing new stuff09:17
kainand see the progresses09:17
kainclean* interface09:17
kainnot polish09:17
kainehe09:17
e_machinistYah, GNOME has a pretty sweet polish... pretty much a gleam actually.09:17
e_machinisthaha.09:17
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mellogeneo93, yep09:18
mellogeneo93, it works swell09:18
geneo93cool09:18
caffinatedgnome is what KDE could have been if feature creep didn't get so rampant09:18
Roeycrimsun:   02:18:47 modules ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-amd64-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/input/usbhid.ko09:19
Roey-rw-r--r--  1 root root 46474 2005-03-27 02:17 /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-amd64-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/input/usbhid.ko09:19
e_machinistWhat are you compy specs kain?09:19
Roeycrimsun:  OK! looked like these things installed fianlly!09:19
Roeycrimsun:  lemme reboot.09:19
kaine_machinist, notebook ibm thinkpad with centrino M ipw2200 1500mhz, 512 ram hdd 80gb 7200 rpm09:20
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e_machinistnice. Mine is Athlon XP 1800+ @ 1533mhz, 512mb, 80gb 7200rpm.09:20
e_machinistDesktop of course.09:20
e_machinistOh yah, got a budget ATI Radeon 9200 AGP4x 128mb haha.09:21
kainmine is i91509:21
kainbad supported but it's okay09:21
kain64mb shared09:21
Roeycrimsun:  I am rebooting now.09:21
Roeyyipee!09:21
e_machinistaggh... good thing you got 512mb ram, haha... that mem sharing can kill.09:22
HiPn0t|zECPU: (1 CPU - AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (Barton), 2.19 GHz, L1: 64KB L2: 512KB (2% Load))  OS: (WinXP Professional 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build #2600))  OSInstall: (XP was installed 1wk 1day 5hrs 39secs ago)09:22
kainoh yeah09:22
HiPn0t|zEUp: (4h 10m)  RecUP: (14h 31m 58s set on Tue Mar 22 06:54:14 2005)  HD: (Total/Free: 23.08/3.2GB)  Virtual Memory: (Usage: 57/2048MB (2.77%))09:22
HiPn0t|zEMem: (Usage: 205/256MB (80.08%))  Page File: (Usage: 177/618MB (28.63%))  Sound: (NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio)  Disp: (1280x1024 32bit 60Hz)09:22
HiPn0t|zETemp: (Case: 34C, CPU: 40C, Fan 1: 4115RPM)09:22
e_machinistThe Radeon 9200 seems to be supported well enough through default installation... don't have any trouble running 3D junk.09:22
kaine_machinist, I tried ubuntu hoary on a machine with 9200, works like a charm09:23
HiPn0t|zEi have a 920009:23
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HiPn0t|zEDisplay Info: (1280x1024 32bit 60Hz)  Monitor: (Panasonic Rear Projection TV)09:23
caffinatedi tried warty on a mac, nothing but problems heh09:23
HiPn0t|zEVideo Card: (ATi Radeon 9200 Series)  Sound Card: (NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio)09:23
caffinateddidn't like the video card for some reason09:24
HiPn0t|zEjust use liveCD .. easy shietz09:24
kaincaffinated, macs are still missing from my curriculae vitae09:24
kainghg09:24
kaini tried a powerbook, nice machine09:24
kainbut I prefer my ibm09:24
caffinatedkain: too bad too, it would have made that G4 useful, instead of being an OS X paperweght09:24
[nrx] mornin, all09:24
HiPn0t|zEG'day09:25
e_machinistmornin to ye!09:25
kainif I will have some extra cash I would like to but a mini mac to give it a try09:25
caffinatedoh, don't get me wrong, i despise macs :)09:25
caffinatedmostly because of OS X though.09:25
caffinatedoh, and steve jobs09:25
kaincaffinated, did you saw latest beta videos about gnome?09:26
HiPn0t|zEcan i see a screenshot of ubuntu09:26
caffinatedkain: which set?09:26
kaincaffinated, wait, I'll search em09:26
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caffinatedthe ones about the new opengl interface?09:26
[nrx] so today, I have to get ndiswrapper and sound working09:26
caffinatedwobbly windows or whatever it was?09:26
kaincaffinated, yes, these09:26
kainor those*?09:26
caffinatedyeah, i've seen them09:26
blawsonWould errors in my /var/log/acpid file like "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server" and "Xlib: No protocol specifed" have something to do with my Suspend to RAM issues?09:26
kainmy english sucks09:26
kainehe09:26
kainok09:26
raymondhi all09:27
[nrx] hi raydogg09:27
[nrx] er09:27
[nrx] hi raymond09:27
[nrx] :)09:27
caffinatedi won't bother until they make it work alongside applications which already use opengl09:27
raymondall proud ubuntu users?09:27
caffinatedraymond: no, i use OS/2.  I'm only here because of the palm trees and free beer :)09:28
raymond:)09:28
kutucapehi all09:28
[nrx] heh09:28
kainraymond, I'm testing it, just to put hands on something relatively new09:28
crimsunI love Windows XP.  It runs putty.exe great!  Of course, I'm sshed into various Ubuntu machines...09:28
raymondno chicks?09:28
raymond:P09:28
kutucapeusing hoary and get some updates makes my laptop run smooth09:28
caffinatedcrimsun: when i'm in windows, i just use Services for Unix.09:28
[nrx] got warty on my laptop09:28
kutucapecompaq presario 250009:28
kutucapewarty is run smooth on my laptop too09:29
Kazuhiroibm x31 here09:29
kutucapebut i try hoary, and hmm what a nice desktop :D09:29
kainibm r50e here09:29
[nrx] fs Amilo D, here ;)09:29
kainipw2200 and accelerations works out of the box09:29
kainyay09:29
kutucapei haven't check the acceleration, maybe it works too09:30
[nrx] anyone really clued up with ndiswrapper?09:30
kainkutucape, glxinfo | grep rendering09:30
kutucapewait09:30
kutucapethe answer is yes :)09:30
kutucapedirect rendering: Yes09:31
kutucapecool09:31
kainand oh yeah, another happy user09:31
kainehe09:31
HiPn0t|zEdid you guys download it or get the free cd ?09:31
HiPn0t|zEand did u hafta pay for customs and etc09:31
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kutucapei have tried some distros including: redhat, mandrake, suse and so on, but ubuntu is my choice09:31
caffinatedHiPn0t|zE: no, cd shipment is free09:31
drummer87Burgundavia: bak, and exactly same error from live cd09:31
kutucapeHiPn0t|zE: ubuntu is always free of charge09:32
[nrx] i got 20 CD's delivered09:32
HiPn0t|zEbut like09:32
HiPn0t|zEdelivery to australia09:32
kpetersonwhat version of debian his hoary based on?09:32
HiPn0t|zEyou know. .09:32
[nrx] different arch's. too and I sent them out to mates :)09:32
caffinatedpeople are always so confused when they get something for free with no strings attached heh.09:32
geneo93hip anywhere09:32
HiPn0t|zEhrm09:32
kainkpeterson, hoary is based on debian unstable, I think09:32
HiPn0t|zEwhat's this customs fee thing i have to pay 409:32
geneo93you dont09:33
[nrx] HiPn0t|zE, some countries charge a fee for things coming into the country, especially software from elsewhere09:33
HiPn0t|zEreally ?09:33
caffinatedHiPn0t|zE: well, that's customs, not the people who send you ubuntu.  technicly you shouldn't have to pay customs since you're not buying anything.09:33
HiPn0t|zEhrm.. maybe i should order some09:33
HiPn0t|zEhokays09:33
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HiPn0t|zEhowlong does it take . .09:33
[nrx] HiPn0t|zE, order a lot.. the shipping fee's are less for the ubuntu lot then and you can spread them around :)09:33
caffinatedHiPn0t|zE: yeah, you should actually.  order lots, and give them to everyone you know :)09:34
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HiPn0t|zEhrm.. so it's really that good09:34
kutucape[nrx] : can ubuntu delivered to Indonesia?09:34
HiPn0t|zEicic09:34
kutucapeIndonesia is my country09:34
caffinatedubuntu policies > *09:34
[nrx] they'll deliver anywhere09:34
[nrx] if you already get post, why not :)09:34
kutucapeok09:34
kpetersoncan anyone advise me on setting up a proftpd server for anonymous access?  I tried earlier according to various websites but was not successfull, and I am left wondering about the security of my system09:34
kutucapebecause downloading ubuntu here, takes a day09:34
e_machinistI hand out my Ubuntu CDs... free advertising for Ubuntu.09:34
HiPn0t|zEanyone got it delivered to Australia09:34
[nrx] HiPn0t|zE, just order them.. they'll come09:35
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e_machinistDownloading Ubuntu for me would take.... forever on my 56k. haha.09:35
HiPn0t|zEhokays09:35
kutucapekpeterson: have you try pure-ftpd?09:35
crimsunHiPn0t|zE: several Ubuntu developers live in .au :)09:35
kutucapepure-ftpd is easy to setup09:35
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geneo93e_machinist:  two days here09:35
Roeycrimsun: hi09:35
crimsunRoey: hi09:35
Roeycrimsun: ping09:35
HiPn0t|zEoh really.. didn't know that09:35
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Roeycrimsun: HI crimsun,09:35
=== kutucape find pure-ftpd on synaptic if it's there
expohello!09:35
Roeycrimsun: guess what, God really hates me09:36
Roeycrimsun: I rebooted and now I can't boot09:36
e_machinistYou actually have the time to just let Ubuntu download on your 56k geneo?09:36
Roeycrimsun: it says this:09:36
HiPn0t|zEmust be costing them alot to post out these cds09:36
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geneo93e_machinist:  yes09:36
[nrx] HiPn0t|zE, worth it if they get the software out there... first the postal service.. then the WORLD MWUAHAHAHAHAHA09:36
drummer87do they need ur phone number field filled out in the order form? what do they need it for?09:37
[nrx] dr evil eat your heart out.09:37
HiPn0t|zEhehe i suppose09:37
e_machinistheh, I should try to download the entire thing just for kicks.09:37
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geneo93e_machinist:  i fact i prolly d/l 3 gigs a month or nore09:37
e_machinistI probably download around 500mb-1.5gb a month... of software... maybe. haha.09:37
Roeycrimsun:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/a76TwZ20.html09:37
Roeye_machinist: http://rafb.net/paste/results/a76TwZ20.html09:38
kutucapecool pure-ftpd is in ubuntu too09:38
RoeyI can't boot! dah!09:38
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kpetersonkutucape no i have not. is that another server?09:38
crimsunRoey: that's not related to your modules, though.  What's your default kernel set to?09:38
crimsunRoey: and the initrd?09:38
geneo93well mine has to be tended cause i get diff ip addy everytime09:38
kutucapeanyone here ever tried mono on ubuntu?09:39
Roeycrimsun:   -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1274601 Mar 24 10:00 vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic09:39
crimsunkutucape: it works well.09:39
Roeycrimsun: -rw-r--r--  1 root root 5025792 Mar 26 04:07 initrd.img-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic09:39
Roeycrimsun: hmm... is initrd not matched to the kernel/09:39
Roey?09:39
Roeycrimsun: the timestampsare different...09:40
e_machinisthmm.. I'll try to download the FINAL Hoary on the 6th.09:40
crimsunRoey: it looks like your initrd has been fubared09:41
e_machinistLuckily Ubuntu isn't all that big of a download as far as linux distros go.09:41
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crimsunRoey: try reinstalling the initrd from the 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic linux-image09:41
Lathiatmkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic # may also work09:42
Roeycrimsun: apt-get install what?09:42
Roeycrimsun: I will chroot into the old drive...one sec09:42
Roeyer09:42
Roeyinto my hard disk's /09:42
crimsunRoey: --reinstall linux-image-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic09:42
Roeycrimsun: I did that yesterday after you logged out though09:42
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Roeycrimsun: I did apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic09:43
Roeycrimsun: is there a spearate initrd package or somethign?09:43
camhey all09:43
[nrx] hi cam09:43
camI have a question...09:43
crimsunRoey: no, it's in the linux-image09:43
geneo93alien -help09:44
geneo93opps09:44
Roeyoh jesus fucking christ09:45
crimsunRoey: CoC, dude...09:45
Roeycrimsun: I wanted to umount /mnt/md0 and it tells me it's busy09:45
Roeycrimsun: and I mounted it only a minute ago09:45
Roeywhat gives/???09:45
Roeycrimsun: I'm not even in it!09:45
kainlsof /mnt/md0 ?09:45
Roeykain:  one sec.  (also fuser -v)09:45
[nrx] cam, what's the question?09:45
crimsunnot a md/lvm/evms guru, sorry.09:46
RoeyCOMMAND  PID    USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME09:46
Roeybash    4937 knoppix  cwd    DIR    9,0 1024    2 /mnt/md009:46
Roeylsof    5476 knoppix  cwd    DIR    9,0 1024    2 /mnt/md009:46
Roeylsof    5477 knoppix  cwd    DIR    9,0 1024    2 /mnt/md009:46
crimsunare you chrooted into it?09:46
RoeyI got out of the bash process which mounted it09:46
Roeyand it umounted now.09:46
camu may think its n00bish but how do I update firefox? 0.9.3 came presintalled I attempted to use synatpic but it nothing happened.09:46
Roeylet me now chroot into it09:46
crimsuncam: running Warty?09:46
[nrx] if you open firefox, there's an option to update it09:46
[nrx] and i'm talking crap, once again09:47
kpetersonI have installed the pure-ftpd package, can anyone advise me on how to configure it to simply allow anonymous access?09:47
camThe Warty Warthog yes09:47
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raymondcan someone help me out please im have a problem with my screen resolution in gnome09:48
raymond<< newbie09:49
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Roeycrimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/xVX5Jl72.html09:49
camI even attempted to download Firefoxes latest and install that ,but it didn't allow me to create a new directory in /usr/local/bin09:50
cam???09:50
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robitaillecam:  sudo mkdir /usr/local/bin/MozillaFirefox09:50
robitaillecam:  sudo chown cam.cam /usr/local/bin/MozillaFirefox09:50
raymondi got a 17" tft monitor that can handle 1280x1024 @ 75 hz so i figuer id hav to change my xf86config-409:50
camsudo mkdir?09:51
robitaillecam:  then install the latest firefox in that directory in /usr/local09:51
kainraymond, have you tried, if using hoary+gnome, to use the utility to change display resolution?09:51
crimsunRoey: yep, you'll have to --force-overwrite, remember?09:51
kainsystem -> preferences09:52
robitaillemkdir = make directory.   Sudo = run as super user to be able to write in /usr/local09:52
kainscreen resolution09:52
raymondi changed the sub section into  SubSection "Display"09:52
raymond                Depth           2409:52
raymond                Modes           "1280x1024"09:52
raymond        EndSubSection09:52
raymond but now it ll only do 1152x768 @55 hz09:52
kainor something similar, I've menus in italian09:52
raymondyes i tried using that09:52
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Roeycrimsun: ok09:53
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Roeycrimsun: it overwrote all the stuff we did but heh09:53
Roeycrimsun: I can just rebuild it09:53
drummer87raymond: look under Section "Monitor"09:53
drummer87for vert and horiz refresh rates09:53
raymondi c them09:53
Roeycrimsun: i will reboot now09:54
raymondSection "Monitor"09:55
raymond        Identifier      "Generic Monitor"09:55
raymond        HorizSync       28-4909:55
raymond        VertRefresh     43-7209:55
raymond        Option          "DPMS"09:55
raymondEndSection09:55
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camI don't inderstand this whole superuser thing...09:55
drummer87i'm not sure.. should give u op to 72hz, maybe set vertrefresh to a specific value09:56
Lathiatcam: how so09:56
drummer87i'm a bit of a newbie too though09:57
raymondi found in my booklet of my monitor : that the normal range  of my monitor is H: 30-80 KHZ V: 56-77HZ09:57
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raymondcan i just fill that in there?09:58
Lathiatyeh should work09:58
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drummer87should be able to09:58
LathiatHorizSync 30-80 // VertRefresh 56-77  -- i guess09:58
kainsomeone knows in which package etiquette theme are in?09:59
raymondill try that any idea what this is Option          "DPMS"09:59
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robitaillecam: the "sudo" command let you become all-powerful administrator from a command line prompt09:59
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camok ok,where and how ?where can I do that>?10:00
robitaillecam:  so "sudo mkdir"  says to make a directory running as adminstrator;  if you do that without the sudo, the mkdir will fail since as a normal user you don't have write acess to /usr/local10:00
drummer87Section "Monitor"10:00
drummer87oops..10:00
raymondo srry10:00
Phusionhey guys, my reposatories list is screwed up.. I try running the update manager and it gets 404s when finding urls..10:00
raymondyes in the same section10:00
kpetersonafter installing pure-ftpd (via apt-get) what steps do I need to take before someone can access my server?10:00
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kutucaperaymond: try 31.5-48.5 that's a generic setting, imho10:00
kutucapekain: gnome-look.org, i guess :)10:00
camhmmm>? I think I understand.I thought I was admin?10:01
drummer87raymond: i think dpms allows linux to turn the monitor off after a time10:01
raymonda ok10:01
kainkutucape, mm.. I've installed if from gnome-look and I can't remember it? fun, I must be drunk10:01
drummer87ie. under the power management settings10:01
dex1[<newbie]  I've just installed & rebooted but it starts up, tells me everything it's loading and then the screen goes black (monitor has no signal). If I press ctrl-alt-F1 it goes back to the bash console thing; showing gnome manager as last item it tried. Running an Iiyama ProLite E430 monitor with an old S3 card. Can anyone help?10:01
raymondnow i can use crtl alt backspace to test it right?10:01
kainkutucape, can you do me a favor?10:02
raymondill brb thnx10:02
drummer87yep, that restarts X10:02
Phusionso... anyone.. how do I fix my reposatories list?10:03
dex1Oh, I re-ran the config thing too, and it asked me about my keyboard, mouse, monitor etc - whereupon I put in the refresh details etc for the monitor. Rebooted at the end. Still doesn't work tho.10:03
kutucapekain: what favor? :)10:03
claintPhusion: what is messed up with it?10:03
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Phusionwell I try running the update manager it.. well hold on10:03
hillokihey , does anyone here know how to make a grub multi os installer?10:03
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Phusioncould not download all repository index10:04
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dex1All the articles I've been able to find about the screen going blank during startup have related to nvidia drivers. But I'm using an old S3 card and an iiyama monitor. :(10:05
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dex1Well, if anyone has suggestions/help for the problem I'm having it will be gratefully recieved.10:05
Phusionarchive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/universe/source/Sources.gz could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists10:05
crimsundex1: which S3?10:05
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raymondthnx all10:06
raymond<< is a happy man now10:06
raymondit works10:06
Phusionduplicatre sources.list entry10:06
dex1crimsun: It's an S3 Trio I believe.10:06
Lizis there anyway to remove cups without it removing ubuntu desktop10:06
Liz?10:06
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dex1The text file config I saw earlier had the long description (I forget the filename). I've no idea if it autodetected it correctly; definitely an S3 trio of some type tho.10:07
[nrx] any ndiswrapper guru's awake yet? :p10:08
elmayawhat's the prob?10:08
[nrx] long version or the short version/10:09
elmayashort10:09
[nrx] it doesn't work.10:09
elmayalong10:09
[nrx] lol10:09
raymondi have two other problems tho :s i get this message on startup PCI Cannot allocate resource region 4 of device 0000:00:02.1 and my usb ports dont work i guess thats what the error is about tho10:09
[nrx] k, I don't have the machine in question beside me at the moment, but, i've been trying to get it to work.. i've gotten the right drivers and added them to ndiswrapper, then started the "modprobe ndiswrapper" and the lights don't come on10:10
[nrx] checking dmesg throws up loads of error messages and someone's suggested to me that the driver's may be wrong10:10
[nrx] however, they are the drivers for that card from the ndis site10:10
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elmayapcmcia?10:10
[nrx] though, i've noticed in dmesg there's errors for hotplug, too10:10
[nrx] yes10:10
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[nrx] coms backj saying it can't find something like "/var/lib/hotplug/firmware/TX11ACyaddayadda"10:11
elmayawich brand? is it supported with ndiswrapper?10:11
drummer87is anyone here using hoary preview amd64?10:11
[nrx] DLink DWL-G650+10:11
[nrx] yes, tis10:11
kutucapei wonder how to tell apt or synaptic to read archieve fro harddisk10:11
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elmayamm weird.. i've managed to get my linksys to work even the usb one with ndiswrapper10:11
dex1Any ideas re non-display, crimsun; or anyone? I had to delete the Windows partition since it was damaged by the install and re-install as just Ubuntu so I'll be sad if it was all in vain! :)10:12
[nrx] someone told me they had to use a realtek driver for it10:12
kutucapesay, i have archieve from ubuntu repository then i want to update my ubuntu with the package store in harddisk10:12
[nrx] but i'm damned if i know which one10:12
kutucapehow to add it in source.list?10:12
Echylocan you download new applets for the gnome panel?10:12
corzahey guys i have a secondary drive and i was wondering how i can view it.. it's FAT32 format10:13
[nrx] kutucape "deb file:/path/to warty main restricted"10:13
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corzacan someone help me out with my FAT32 drive?10:14
kutucape[nrx] : so the hoary too, just replace warty with hoary right?10:14
[nrx] yeah10:14
kutucapecorza: whats up with your FAT32?10:15
kutucape[nrx] : thanks a lot10:15
kutucape:)10:15
corzakutucape: i'm trying to view it because i just put some mp3 files onto it10:15
[nrx] kutucape, np :)10:15
corzakutucape: so i sorta wanna copy the files from it but i cant view the drive..10:15
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kutucapecorza: just mount it the view it10:15
corza"unable to mount volume"10:16
Anubisdircolors: `/etc/DIR_COLORS': No such file or directory10:16
drummer87corza: add to fstab, /dev/hdb1  /media/name  vfat  rw,umask=0000  0  010:16
drummer87then sudo mount -10:16
kutucapecorza: first, sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda10:16
drummer87a10:16
drummer87* sudo mount -a10:16
kutucapethen find the right partition for your FAT32 partition10:17
funkyin which package is the gnome applet that that indicates new packages to upgrade ?10:17
geneo93drummer87:  you forgot something10:17
corzakutucape: yes...10:17
drummer87what?10:17
corzakutucape: its named /dev/hda310:17
geneo93mkdir10:17
drummer87ah..10:17
kutucapethen create a mount point in /mnt: sudo mkdir /mnt/windows10:17
drummer87true10:17
kutucapethen mount it: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/pathto_fat32_partition /mnt/windows10:18
[nrx] righty10:18
[nrx] gonna go fire up the ubuntu lappy10:18
[nrx] bbiba10:18
[nrx] bbiab, too10:18
kutucaperemember that warty has problem viewing directly this partition after mounted10:18
kutucapebut hoary works10:19
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Echylolel10:19
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corzakutucape: it says.. wrong fs type..10:19
Roeycrimsun: hi10:19
dex1Roey: I think I scared crimsun off. Sorry :p10:19
crimsunRoey: hi10:19
crimsundex1: no, was just responding to u-d email10:20
HiddenWolfIs there a noticable difference in performance between say ext3 and xfs or reiser?10:20
kutucapecorza: maybe wrong partition or your partition is damage10:20
dex1Heh, sry10:20
kutucapeHiddenWolf: reiserfs for small files, xfs for big files, imho10:20
kutucapei prefer use resiserfs10:21
kutucape*reiserfs*10:21
Roeycrimsun:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/QPbSIs30.html10:21
Roeycrimsun: still it didn't boot.10:21
kerframilI think reiserfs has regressed in 2.6, fwiw10:21
iapx8088whatis kubuntu10:21
iapx8088is what I think it is10:22
geneo93kde10:22
corzakutucape: but i was just viewing it on windows xp10:22
crimsunRoey: I really don't know the slightest regarding md/lvm/evms10:22
iapx8088yup10:22
raymondi get this message on startup hope u can help me with it: PCI Cannot allocate resource region 4 of device 0000:00:02.1 and my usb ports dont work, but i guess thats what the error is about10:23
geneo93kde 3.4 at that10:23
kutucapecorza: what partition FAT32 have?10:23
kerframilRoey: the uuid is unique per block device (of course) so that the affinity with a given array can be asserted10:23
Anubisdircolors: `/etc/DIR_COLORS': No such file or directory? how can I fix this?10:23
Roeykerframil: it's not that10:23
Roeykerframil: the stupid thing normally starts...er... I have no idea what's wrong this time.10:23
Roeykerframil: like... this has been a nightmare for the past two weeks now10:23
Roeykerframil: all these problems10:24
kerframilRoey: hmm - you mean it just stopped working?10:24
Roeykerframil: I apt-got installed a kernel image yesterday (I thought it was the same one I had installed with ubuntu by default)10:24
Roeykerframil: and I have not rebooted till now10:24
kerframilah10:24
Anubishttp://www.linuxgazette.com/node/838110:25
crimsundex1: please paste the output of ,,lspci -v'' (without the quotes and commas) onto http://pastebin.ca10:25
kerframilRoey: so, let me get this straight - you were sucessfully able to assemble the array by booting an older kernel? the newer kernel breaks it?10:25
kerframilor am I misunderstanding you?10:25
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Roeykerframil: (btw are you an ubuntu dev?)10:25
Roeykerframil: it's like this:10:25
Roeykerframil: I installed ubuntu10:25
corzakutucape: eh? what do u mean10:26
Roeykerframil: it had errors starting up, ever since.10:26
kerframilno it any shape or form, no - just a fellow md/lvm2 user10:26
Roeykerframil: do you want to see the error I got originally (when the system was booting, at least?)10:26
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kerframilRoey: sure10:26
corzakutucape: it could be just FAT but im pretty sure its FAT3210:26
Roeykerframil: I have /, /boot and /home on raid1.10:26
dex1crimsun, will do. Should I prefix it with sudo?10:27
crimsundex1: no need for sudo10:27
dex1k10:27
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Roeykerframil: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Fge1i993.html10:27
corzakutucape: can i formate the whole drive from partitions and everything somehow?10:27
Roeycrimsun: I see there are multiple kernel images... see this:10:28
kutucapetry: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows10:28
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geneo93crimsun:  what log did you tell me to look at for kppp10:28
kerframilRoey: I see10:28
dex1crimsun: er. it's a page long; I see it now. It's on the (other) computer next to me. i.e. there're two screens. is there a way I can pipe the lspci to a disk in the floppy drive? (and then put the floppy in this online pc to paste onto the pastebin)10:28
crimsungeneo93: /var/log/daemon.log10:28
kpetersoncan anyone help me set up an ftp server?10:29
dex1Otherwise I can retype it all I guess.10:29
Uscfanvsfypd10:29
Uscfanvsftpd*10:29
geneo93k thx10:29
Uscfan:)10:29
corzais there  a way i can format my whole hard drive including partitions?10:29
corzasecondary hard drive10:29
kutucapecorza: don't format or you loose all your data10:29
Roeycrimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/sdVfHg31.html10:29
corzakutucape: yes i want to do that10:30
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crimsundex1: sure. lspci -v > /media/floppy0/logfile.txt10:30
corzakutucape: all i have to do is go back into windows and put all the songs back on10:30
dex1merci. on it10:30
kutucapehmm10:30
wfxhi, i miss some device on my desktop, if i open places/computers there is show as XYGB Device: XY Media, and when i restart dbus all is fine. so i think the runlevel of dbus is wrong how can i change it.10:31
wfxsystem i hoary10:31
wfx+s10:31
wfx:)10:31
crimsunwfx: it's a _bad_ idea to fiddle with the numbering of services startup10:31
corzakutucape: is there a way?10:31
crimsunwfx: have you checked bugzilla for dbus-1 entries?10:32
wfxcrimsun, not yet10:32
wfxis this the right addres: http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/hoary/ ?10:33
dex1crimsun: Sorry, when I type (w/out quote marks) "lspci -v >/media/floppy0/logfile.txt" ,10:33
wfxno it is :)10:33
crimsunwfx: that's the listing.  You want http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com10:33
dex1I get...10:33
corzakutucape: you there?10:34
wfxyes thx10:34
Roeycrimsun:  given the /var/cache/apt/archives listing I showed you, is it possible that the kernel image I got yesterday and the initrd image that was installed by default are out of sync?10:34
dex1crimsun: -bash /home/username/.....logfile.txt no such file or directory10:34
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crimsunRoey: unlikely...10:35
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crimsundex1: err, that's odd.  What command did you type?10:35
dex1crimsun: (w/out quote marks) "lspci -v >/media/floppy0/logfile.txt" . I'll try it under root. There's a floppy in the drive with space on it, formatted under windows but otherwise fine :)10:36
wfxthere is no bug about dbus-1 in bugzilla, ok i think i should add one, right ;-)10:37
crimsunwfx: search for "dbus" or "gnome-volume-manager" then10:37
Roeycrimsun: dan, where are you in the US?  california?10:37
crimsunRoey: NC.10:37
dex1under root it doesn't say anything. but then it doesn't copy the output to the floppy either10:37
wfx7292 and 6282 does not match10:37
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Roeycrimsun: aaaah so it's the same time as MD for you...10:37
crimsundex1: just gives you a prompt?10:37
corzaOI!10:37
crimsunRoey: indeed10:37
[nrx_] so.. who's up for a bit of ndiswrapper problem solving or sound problem solving.. take your pick :)10:38
Roeycrimsun:  may I pm you?10:38
crimsundex1: that's what it's supposed to do (give you a prompt back)10:38
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crimsunRoey: if it's Ubuntu-related, I'd rather keep it in-channel10:38
[nrx_] perverts ;p10:38
Roeycrimsun: wanted to see if you could talk voice10:39
dex1crimsun: yep but i exited back to the username now and it gives the path with 'permission denied'. still no copy-eth to the floppy10:39
corzacan someone help me with my secondary hard drive i want to format the whole thing partitions and all10:39
Lathiatcorza: try gparted10:40
crimsundex1: are you able to list the contents of that directory?10:40
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crimsunRoey: heavily firewalled, sorry.10:40
Roeycrimsun: Shouldn't getting the system in working order just take installing the right kernel?10:40
Lathiatcorza: installable from universe10:40
corzaLathiat: thanks dude10:40
crimsunRoey: if it worked from a Ubuntu-compiled kernel before, yes.10:40
Roeycrimsun: "talk on the phone", rather10:40
Roeycrimsun: yes it was the ubuntu image I downloaded....10:40
Roeycrimsun: adn the thing doesn't boot10:41
Roeycrimsun: so I'm wondering what can be wrong10:41
Roeykerframil: hi10:41
kerframilRoey: yo10:41
Roeykerframil: were there any special things you had to configure to be able to boot?10:41
kerframilRoey: the reason I piped up is because it was reminiscent of something I've encountered before - but not in Ubuntu (I'm a very new user of Ubuntu)10:42
dex1crimsun: Yes, I can list the directory. "ls /media/floppy0/" returns logfile.txt on a line. "nano blahpath/logfile.txt" does show the contents of the file.10:42
kerframilRoey: that issue was to do with the naming scheme of block devices changing depending on different kernel configurations (i.e. /dev/sdd becomes /dev/sdc or such)10:42
kpetersoncan anyone help me ste up an FTP server for anonymous access?10:43
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wfxups, there a lot more bug, so i must read more or less all before i add a new one.... (cost a lot of time)10:43
Roeykerframil: ok10:43
kerframilRoey: checking something else ... 1 sec10:43
Roeykerframil: is your / on raid1?10:44
crimsundex1: ok, then you can paste it onto pastebin, no?10:44
kerframilRoey: no, but I have done so before (again, not Ubuntu - key difference being I always build my own kernels)10:44
crimsunRoey: have you confirmed you're actually booting the correct kernel?10:44
dex1crimsun: online, IRC-ness, windows + me typing on now = PC1.  while PC2=ubuntu, not online, has file on it ;)10:44
kerframilRoey: you use / on RAID, that means your kernel needs to support md from the off10:45
kerframilRoey: in the case of Ubuntu's kernel, md is as a kernel module10:45
kerframilRoey: so you'd obviously need to make sure your initrd was in shape; that's not something I'm overly familiar with though10:45
Roeykerframil: ok10:45
dex1does the floppy drive on the other PC need 'mounting' before it'd work or something? :/10:45
Roeykerframil: well... I am used to building my own kernels HOWEVER I realized that LILO flat-out doesn't work for me10:46
Roeykerframil: in Ubuntu10:46
kerframilRoey: lilo?10:46
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Roeykerframil: I suspect LILO has problems with AMD64-mode on my MSI neo k8t fis2r motherboard.10:46
kerframilRoey: but Ubuntu uses grub, no?10:46
Roeykerframil: but I installed LILO on i.10:46
kerframilRoey: ah10:46
Roeykerframil: I wanted to get past this kernel mess that I'm in now :)10:46
kerframilit has been a very _long_ time since I've used lilo ;)10:46
Roeykerframil: I'm much more used to using lilo10:46
Roeykerframil: grub... man10:47
Roeykerframil, crimsun: maybe the solution is just to build a kernel that has the raid drivers in it10:47
geneo93nite all10:47
Roeykerframil, crimsun:  instead of on an irdinit image10:47
dex1nite geneo10:47
Roeycrimsun: how do I check?10:47
kerframilRoey: that'd be the first thing I'd try - a kernel that has all pre-requisite support *statically* built in10:47
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crimsunRoey: cat /proc/version10:48
kerframilRoey: at the very least, you could rule out this concern as an avenue of inquiry!10:48
Roeycrimsun: well...I'm on a kanotix64 livecd now (remember I could't boot the system)10:48
Roeykerframil: right10:48
Roeycrimsun: so the current kernel verison (kanotix, remmeber) is: Linux version 2.6.10-kanotix64-8 (root@Kanotix) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8)) #1 Wed Feb 2 20:30:09 CET 200510:49
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ruby_mnclguys... need help with a new installation... i finnaly got Xserver to start, but the computer gets stuck after 1-2 seconds... the mouse isnt moving and the keybord is not reacting (even hitting num lock key wont turn the num lock light on or off), same thing happend several times in text mode too but in X it happends all the time...10:49
crimsunRoey: so how about using the kanotix kernel and specifying your rootfs at the prompt?10:49
crimsunRoey: (similar to a rescue cd)10:49
kevinHi, my hotplug does not automatically recognise my external usb hard drives as hard drives in Places > My Computer10:50
Roeycrimsun: because then...10:50
crimsunkevin: do they appear after you invoke: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart10:50
Roeycrimsun: 1) I can't install the wacom drivers,10:50
Roeycrimsun: 2) it still won't work (it'd give another error)10:50
Roeycrimsun: the kanotix kernel also uses an rdinit image.10:50
kevincrimsun: no10:51
crimsunRoey: (1) you only need to compile the drivers (installing can occur after you reboot into the proper kernel)10:51
caffinateddoes anyone know how to give permission to a regular user to start a second X display?  (i'm trying to run a game on a second X server)10:51
crimsunRoey: (2) which is?10:51
caffinatedit works if i run it as root, but not my regular user.  i'd prefer not to run the game with root permissions10:51
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Roeycrimsun:I've tried with the kanotix kernel, it just gives some other stupid error.10:52
corzahow do i format on gparted?10:52
Roeycrimsun: I've already tried booting to kanotix.10:52
dex1I think it v. probably that the floppy drive isn't recognised. I changed to the /media/floppy0 directory and the files viewable. I just can't get it *out* of there and *onto* the floppy. So I can open the txt file from the floppy on this second (online) PC and paste it into the pastebin.10:52
wfxcrimsun, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8269 hope i do it right.10:53
corzaHow do i format a drive on GPARTED?10:53
Lathiatcorza: right click it and hit new10:53
crimsunkevin: are those external drives mounted?10:53
Roeycrimsun: lemme boot to the kanotix kernel and i'll tell you the error, ok?10:54
wfxogra, hi :-)10:54
crimsunRoey: ok10:54
Lathiatcorza: after selecting the right drive in the selector in the top right10:54
=== wfx happy easter to all :)
Roeycrimsun:  btw, I thoguth you were in California b/c you were up right now10:54
kevincrimsun: Yes10:54
Roeyhappy & solemn easter to you, wfx10:54
randabiscorza, you have to make sure the drive is not mounted, and then use the right-click menu10:54
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randabisgparted will unmount drives for you as long as they aren't busy10:55
coreDumped69xinerama = evil10:55
crimsunwfx: please add more information, such as the output from ,,mount''10:56
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crimsunkevin: where are those partitions mounted?10:56
kevinin /media/DATA and /media/DOWNLOADS10:56
corzarandabis: i did that and it done something but didnt do much lol i cant FORMAT It10:57
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crimsunkevin: and you have permission to access files in those directories?10:58
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kevincrimsun: Yes10:59
kevincrimsun: this is a fresh install of ubuntu btw11:00
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crimsunkevin: from preview or array ?11:00
beowu1fany south african users here?11:00
kevinpreview11:01
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crimsunkevin: and it's current, as in you updated && dist-upgraded within the last hour?11:01
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kevinno11:02
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crimsunkevin: please do that.  Hoary is a moving target until 6 April, 2005.  =)11:03
kevin:)11:03
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kevinwhat happens 6 April, crimsun  ?11:03
apokryphoskevin: Hoary final!11:04
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kevinOh11:04
kevingoody11:04
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[nrx_] spot the idiot who's compiling the drivers for every single sound card under alsa11:04
[nrx_] :/11:04
wfxcrimsun, better?11:04
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Roeycrimsun: hello again11:05
kevinbleh, just figured out i'm on smallband11:05
Roeycrimsun: so this is the message that I get when I boot kanotix kernel:11:05
Roeycrimsun: Kernel panic - not syncing \n VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(9,2)11:05
[nrx_] i got that11:06
kevincrimsun: thank you for your help, i will apt-get upgrade and dist-update tomorrow when i'm back on broadband11:06
kevinttyl11:06
crimsunkevin: ok11:06
crimsunRoey: erm, ok.  Can you try booting off the Kubuntu disc?11:06
Roeycrimsun: ok11:06
Roeycrimsun: but kubuntu disc probably doesn't have the chroot and all that stuff.11:07
Roeycrimsun: lemme do that now.11:07
[nrx_] is he trying to setup dualboot or something?11:07
crimsunwfx: yes, looks better.  If more info is needed, it will be requested.  Thanks.  :)11:08
crimsun[nrx_] : boot into his /, which is on md11:09
[nrx_] i see11:09
[nrx_] any particular reason why he's disconnecting constantly?11:09
crimsunrebooting causes that  :)11:09
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[nrx_] so, he's doing all this on the same machine then11:10
crimsunI believe so11:10
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[nrx_] makes sense now, see11:10
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DrGonzo_iXii need help setting up pppoe.i'm never used linux before ubuntu,some one plz help11:12
drummer87hey, is anyone here using hoary preview amd64?11:12
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Roeycrimsun, hi11:13
Roeycrimsun:  ok, now I am in gnome/ubuntu (that's what I had for livecd)11:14
drummer87no?11:14
drummer87or x86?11:14
crimsundrummer87: I've used it, why?11:15
drummer87i don't have sdb in /dev, but i should right?11:15
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Roeycrimsun, should I just copy now the ubuntu kernel?11:15
crimsundrummer87: you have two scsi storage devices?11:15
Roeycrimsun, does it matter if it is ubuntu/hoary or kubunt/hoary?11:15
crimsunRoey: no, as long as the deb is present11:16
Roeyok11:16
drummer87crimsun: sda is sata drive and i need sdb for usb flash drive11:16
Roeycrimsun, ubuntu livecd doesn't seem to have a /var/cache/apt/archives11:16
crimsundrummer87: /dev/sdb should appear after you plug in the usb flash device11:16
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smurfixdrummer87: you using udev?11:16
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drummer87i try to mount usb drive but get error 'special device /dev/sdb does not exist'11:16
smurfixdrummer87: Is it llisted in /proc/partitions?11:17
drummer87what's udev and how do i use it?11:17
RuffianSoldieromg - i havetn done an apt-get upgrade in ages :(11:17
crimsunhum, sata...11:17
smurfixdrummer87: It's a package.11:17
Roeycrimsun,  do you know where thekernel package is in ubuntu?11:18
smurfixdrummer87: You're using it if it is installed ;-)11:18
Roeycrimsun, off the ubuntu livecd that is?11:18
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crimsunRoey: err, as a deb? I don't know11:18
dex1crimsun: Success! :) I found a tutorial on mounting floppies and fumbled around, eventually getting to the point where I'm about to paste it into pastebin. Shall I click "Submit Post" there now?11:18
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Roeycrimsun, (that iswhat you asked for, right?011:18
crimsundex1: yes.11:18
smurfixRoey: linux-image-*11:18
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crimsunRoey: I don't know if the livecd actually keeps a copy of the deb, which is what you'd need to dpkg -i11:19
Roeysmurfix, where can I get that off the ubuntu livecd.11:19
Roeycrimsun, ok11:19
dex1crimsun: yep, it worked. http://pastebin.ca/8305.11:19
Alessiosorry11:19
MyrttiI've managed to screw my Rhythmbox up. I see only about one third of the network shares that are on my SO's Windows XP. Any ideas?11:19
Alessiomy boot partiton is full11:19
Alessio100%11:19
Alessiowhat can i do?11:19
wfxthe "Submit Data... to ubuntu device database" feature is great but it fails to send an option to open the email client with the right email address would be nice11:19
Roeycrimsun:  linux-image-2.6.10-4-amd64-generi 2.6.10-25.2                       Linux kernel image for version 2.6.10 on x86_64.11:20
Roeycrimsun:  ii  linux-image-amd64-generic         2.6.10-5                          Linux kernel image on x86_64.11:20
Roeycrimsun, that's it11:20
Roeycrimsun, that's the one I think.11:20
drummer87smurfix: udev installed, but i can't find /proc/partitions11:20
smurfixRoey: On the livecd, the kernel is in the /install folder11:20
Roeysmurfix:  /install is where? under /?11:21
Roeysmurfix, Idon't see it there11:21
smurfixRoey: It's on the CD, not the live file system11:21
smurfixRoey: You need to mount the CD first11:21
Alessiosmurfix, my boot partiton is full, what can i do?11:21
Roeyoik11:21
smurfixAlessio: delete something :-/11:21
Alessiowhat?11:21
Roeysmurfix, /cdrom/install11:21
Alessiowhat can i delete?11:22
Alessioold linux image?11:22
smurfixAlessio: /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb11:22
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drummer87smurfix: this is dmesg output when i plug in drive:11:22
drummer87ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: port 1 reset error -11011:22
Alessiono..11:22
drummer87hub 3-0:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -32)11:22
Roeysmurfix, I'm booted off the livecd, I can't mount anything at the oment :)11:22
smurfixRoey: Sure you can11:22
Roeyhow11:22
smurfixRoey: Open a terminal window, sudo mount -r /dev/cdrom /mnt11:23
Alessiosmurfix, this dir /boot is the boot partition11:23
wfxhmm, the hwdb_data.xml is not well formed should i send a bug?11:23
smurfixAlessio: ah11:23
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Alessiosmurfix, if i delete /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb, i don't resolve my problem11:24
Roeysmurfix:  first off I have something mounted in /mnt/md2, so I created a /mnt/cd11:24
Roeysmurfix:  like this:  root@ubuntu:/cdrom# mkdir /mnt/cd && mount -r /cdrom /mnt/cd11:24
Roeymount: you must specify the filesystem type11:24
drummer87crimsun: why the hum, sata11:24
smurfixAlessio: how big is your /boot anyway11:24
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crimsundrummer87: I was trying to recall an issue I saw described regarding those symptoms11:25
Roeysmurfix, so how do I do it then?11:25
smurfixRoey: mount -t iso9660 ...11:25
Roeymount -t iso9660 /cdrom /mnt/cd ???11:25
drummer87anyhow.. how can i get sdb in /dev, it just isn't there anywhere. on hd install and live cd11:25
Roeysmurfix, like that?11:25
drummer87or where else can i mount the usb drive?11:26
smurfixRoey: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cd11:26
crimsundrummer87: try: pmount /dev/sdb1 foo11:26
crimsundrummer87: it should appear in /media/foo11:26
pwEr, can I just say that all my Ubuntu installations are working perfectly and I have no problems at all and thanks a squillion to the devs?11:26
Roeysmurfix, ok it worked... now the kernel image is in pool?11:26
smurfixdrummer87: That error message tells me it can't access your stick for some reason11:26
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smurfixRoey: no, /install11:27
Roeyok11:27
smurfixRoey: There's no kernel .deb on the livecd, what for?11:27
pwI tried the PPC liveCD on my G4 yesterday; everything worked, including my aftermarket wireless NIC.11:27
Roeysmurfix, oh.11:27
crimsundex1: is this with Hoary or Warty?11:27
Roeysmurfix, so I can just copy this over to my /boot on my hard disk and run grub-update11:28
Roeysmurfix, this along with the initrd.img11:28
dex1crims: warty11:28
Roeysmurfix, crimsun: and it'd hopefully work on reboo???11:28
dex1I only have warty. (from cover CD on magazine)11:28
crimsundex1: grep Driver /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | tail -111:28
dex1k doing that now11:28
smurfixRoey: probably. You should check /boot/grub/menu.lst whether it's there afterwards; if not, edit that file and add it manually11:29
Echyloto install kernel source its just sudo apt-get install kernel-source ?11:29
crimsunEchylo: for Hoary?11:29
Alessiosmurfix, /dev/hda5                45781     45756         0 100% /boot11:29
Alessiotoo small?11:29
dex1crimsun: Output of the command is: Driver     "s3"11:29
crimsunEchylo: linux-source-2.6.10 (Hoary), linux-source-2.6.8.1 (Warty)11:30
crimsundex1: ok.  Sec.11:30
smurfixAlessio: Uh, 45 MB is enough room for a lot of kernels, what's on there??11:30
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dex1k ty11:30
estesoyyohello11:30
Alessiofrom 2.6.10-2-38611:30
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drummer87crimsun: 'could not determine real path of the device. no such file or directory'11:31
oowfHI... I am fixing to take the plunge and change over from XP SP2 to Hoary.  Is there a good source where I can go to get software that is basically equal to what I am using now?11:31
Roeyok11:31
[nrx] i just stuck the lit end of a ciggy in my mouth11:31
[nrx] it hurts a lot.11:31
Alessio2.6.8.1-3-38611:31
Alessio -2.6.8.1-4-386 2.6.10-2-38611:31
Alessio 2.6.10-3-38611:31
Alessio 2.6.10-4-38611:31
Alessio 2.6.10-5-38611:31
Alessio 2.6.10-5-386.new11:31
Roeycrimsun, smurfix:   hopefully ubuntu's kernel can unzip the rdinit.gz11:31
oowfOr a forum where I can find out these things?11:31
Alessiotoo.. kernel11:31
[nrx] ;o11:31
[nrx] why'd he go11:31
Roeycrimsun, smurfix:  I reboot now.11:32
smurfixRoey: sure it can11:32
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wfxInstall kernel option ide=reverse does not work or do i anything wrong (linux ide=reverse)?11:32
smurfixAlessio: so delete a few of them ...11:32
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ewinghi11:32
Alessiook11:32
crimsundex1: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it looks like support for your chipset was removed in v411:33
crimsundex1: it does work with the older v3.3.611:33
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dex1v3.3.6 of er what?11:33
crimsundex1: XFree8611:33
dex1"Ah"11:33
crimsundex1: please sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8611:33
dex1Suggestions?11:33
drummer87oh well, hopefully it'll work in the final release11:33
Echylothanks crimsun  :)11:33
crimsundex1: and choose the "vesa" driver11:34
dex1ooh ok I'll do that now11:34
pwWow. There are people still using S3 cards?11:34
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smurfixAlessio: On my system, each kernel image's initrd is 4MB and the kernel 1.2, so that still doesn't add up to your 4511:34
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Alessiosmurfix, but my problem is for anyone that upgrade hoary11:34
crimsunpw: he's got a TrioV2 - even older :)11:34
dex1pw: On the old Compaq yeah. On the XP system I'm on now it's a flash ATI card.11:34
pwYow. Trio64?11:35
pwIs that a Deskpro 2500 or thereabouts, then?11:35
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dex1pw: Presario 4600 ;)11:35
Alessiohow is your boot?11:35
lannoodoes someone here11:35
smurfixAlessio: I just wonder what's on your /boot that's so big. I did upgrade and it's definitely not so on my system11:35
lannoohave 'Everybody's Weird'11:35
rubyguys... help... having some problems with apt-get... here is what i get in dist-upgrade: http://rafb.net/paste/results/G6seCu23.html11:35
lannoofrom 'dEUS'?11:35
pwdex1: I think if I had one of those, I'd have no problem keeping the door open.11:35
smurfixAlessio: du /boot => 25 MB, and that's with 9 kernels installed11:36
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dex1crimsun: vesa option selected, I presume I leave the identifier 'S3 blahblah [Trio 64V2blah or blah] __' as is?11:37
pwruby: try apt-get update again11:37
pwI had this with one repository, and doing it twice seemed to fix it.11:37
crimsundex1: sure.  You only need to change the driver.11:37
dex1Incidentally, can we be sure it isn't the (new) Iiyama ProLite E430 monitor causing the prob?11:37
rubypw: done all... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:37
crimsundex1: not sure, no.  We can consider that if vesa works.11:38
pwruby: I mean, do apt-get update twice, then your upgrade and then dist-upgrade.11:38
dex1okey doke. back at command prompt. do i ctrl-alt-del / type reboot? :) I'm assuming so11:39
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dex1I'll do it now.11:39
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crimsundex1: no need11:40
crimsundex1: just sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart11:40
dex1crim: whoops too late ;)11:40
Roeycrimsun, smurfix:  didn't work11:40
topyliis the openoffice.org2 in hoary usable?11:41
rubypw: ok... apt-get update is the one not working propperly...11:41
HiddenWolftopyli: last I checked, not really11:41
Roeycrimsun, smurfix:  I get the same thing but with a diff. device number:   PANIC not syncing : VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)11:41
dex1it's doing the boot kernel, acpi: unable to locate rsdp, starting ubuntu blah lots of asterisked items (this is where the monitor went off before until ctrl-alt-f1'd)11:41
topyliHiddenWolf: yeah, i tried it some time ago, had a couple of crashes11:41
Roeycrimsun:  are you around tomorrow?11:41
Alessiosmurfix, thanks :)11:41
Roeycrimsun:   I need to go to sleep11:41
Roeycrimsun:   this is just *too* stupid11:41
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Roeycrimsun:   I don't get why LILO doesn't work for me11:42
Roeycrimsun:   does LILO not know how to boot 64-bit kernels/!?11:42
keffo:P11:42
crimsunRoey: yes, I'll be around in ~12 hours11:42
Roeycrimsun:   ok11:43
Roeywhat time is it11:43
HiddenWolftopyli: not much has changed since I had those crashes, or so hoary-changes tells me. :)11:43
crimsunRoey: err, same time you have...11:43
Roeywhic is11:43
Roey?11:43
dex1crimsun: :( :( :(  it's got corrupted color blocks on it.11:43
Roeydoesn't say here11:43
Roeyit says 09:43 AM11:43
dex1oh wait now it's back11:43
crimsun-511:43
crimsun(it's on UTC, apparently)11:43
Roeyjesus christ.11:43
Roeyok11:43
topyliHiddenWolf: i guess i'll try and find pavel's packages, they're more up to date11:43
Roey4:43????11:44
crimsunyep11:44
smurfixRoey: Hmm, yes, you probably need to build an initrd with the modules for your system, the livecd's initrd doesn't have disk drivers11:44
Roeysmurfix:   I tried11:44
Roeysmurfix:   I've tried all this shit11:44
Roeysmurfix:   I appreicate your help.  honestly, I've been going in circles for the past two weeks11:44
smurfixRoey: Which root= option are you passing to the new kernel?11:44
Roeysmurfix:   root=/dev/md211:44
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Roeysmurfix:   the kernel doesn't have raid drivers in it11:44
Roeysmurfix:   statically11:44
Roeysmurfix:   I don't know how it did it before11:45
Roeysmurfix:   now it refuses to boot.11:45
smurfixRoey: sure, but the initrd should load them. mkinitrd knows how to do that.11:45
smurfixshould know .-/11:45
estesoyyoi have a problem with kmail ("can't create $HOME/Mail" on startup)11:45
Roeysmurfix:   I don't know anymore11:45
Roeysmurfix:   all find myself an equivalent distribution that defaults to lilo11:45
Roeyamd6411:45
Roeykde 3.4.011:45
Roeyxorg11:45
Roeyswitch to that.11:45
Roeyenough of this mess.11:45
hgoesmcan i istall the bitdefender AntiVirsu scanne as deb under ubuntu with dpkg -i packagename11:45
RoeyI'll be back in 8 hours.11:46
Roeybye.11:46
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dex1crimsun: it has a graphical dialog box up. 'error starting XKB configuration. Probably internal X server problem. blah and a close button11:46
hgoesmi tried it a it does not work11:46
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rubyguys... i have some problems with apt-get... here is the output of apt-get update:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/G6seCu23.html11:46
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crimsundex1: err... please paste /var/log/XFree86.0.log onto pastebin11:46
pwdex1: You could always install Debian Potato, which has xf86 3.3.6 :-)11:46
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pwYou could then pin the X packages, and dist-upgrade to whatever else you can.11:47
dex1pw: Debian regular probably is a little advanced for me. Given my probs so far. :>11:47
MemnocHcan any one help me sort out why my Audigy 2 is not working in hoary i386?11:47
NonphasisMemnocH, does alsamixer show it?11:48
RuffianSoldierim running a 500MB apt-get upgrade11:48
RuffianSoldierhavent done it in months11:48
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dex1pw: still, at least my motives for installing *nix are admirable (to contribute to open source stuff)11:48
MemnocHNonphasis,  alsamixer fails to load, I know about the unmute the channel issue, unable to get alsa to work...11:48
crimsunMemnocH: lsmod|grep ^emu10k111:48
MemnocHcrimsun, nothing show up there11:49
crimsunMemnocH: ok, then you need a newer version of ALSA11:49
topyliHiddenWolf: pavel seems to have debs of build 88 from the 24th of this month. i guess you can't get more current than that :)11:49
corzahey guys.. what program in linux burns audio cd's???11:49
Nonphasisisn't audigo 10k2 or something more advanced?11:49
Nonphasiscorza, k3b11:49
estesoyyocorza, k3b, eroaster, ...11:49
MemnocHcrimsun, ok cool, it is packaged? or source building?11:49
corzabest one is.........11:49
estesoyyok3b11:49
HiddenWolftopyli: knowing how 'stable' OO.o1 is, I wouldn't expect much from 2.11:49
corzakk11:49
[nrx_] anyone givem e some help with alsa?11:50
[nrx_] i've installed the drivers, etc, done the modprobe and still i have nothing11:50
[nrx_] though, there doesn't seem to be any mixers with ubuntu11:50
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topyliHiddenWolf: i just might try it. dunno about stability or speed, but there are many feature improvements11:50
estesoyyoHiddenWolf, the problem with OO.o is not (only) its being 'stable' but being 'so lightweight' too11:51
pwMemnocH: I have an Audigy2 that is working correctly with ALSA and the following kernel:11:51
pwLinux cordelia 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Thu Mar 24 14:58:42 GMT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux11:51
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MemnocHok11:51
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NonphasisI thought oo.o is rock solid as stability goes11:51
crimsunMemnocH: / [nrx_] : I'm currently testing an experimental package.  Will let you know in a few minutes.11:51
keffois there any good app that emulates mds or isofiles.. just like daemon tools (for windows) does?11:51
MemnocHpw, 2.6.10-5-k711:51
Nonphasisperhaps they broke it recently11:51
[nrx_] crimsun, k11:52
corzaare you breathing nooo11:52
dmoyneHow to make variables such as JAVA_HOME known to all users including root ; I have put this in "/etc/environment" file but apparently it does not work !11:52
MemnocHcrimsun, ok cool11:52
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Nonphasiskeffo, you con mount isos directly11:52
rubyanyone care to send me his edited source.list?11:52
Nonphasiskeffo, with "loopback" device11:52
pwdmoyne: Try /etc/profile instead.11:52
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[nrx_] ruby, what are you after?11:52
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rubyi cant get apt to work...11:53
dmoynepw, ok I will thanks !11:53
Nonphasiskeffo, "man mount" should help11:53
rubyhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/G6seCu23.html11:53
keffoNonphasis, doesnt work :<11:53
dmoynepw, can I ask you something else ?11:53
crimsunMemnocH: in the meantime, please tell me the lspci -v information (Device and Subdevice) for your Audigy211:53
Nonphasiskeffo, you have non-iso images11:53
corzaDISTURBED RULES11:53
topyliNonphasis: OO.o1 doesn't crash but it's dog slow. last i looked OO.o2 was pretty unstable, but it'll get there i guess11:53
pwdmoyne: you can ask. The real question is, Can I answer? :-)_11:53
keffoNonphasis, i have a converted mds-file..11:54
pwIt's a bit early on a sunday for Zen, I think.11:54
keffoto iso11:54
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ruby[nrx_] ?11:54
[nrx_] yeah11:55
[nrx_] what's your sources.list looking like?11:55
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topylimmmm... new artwork. nice metacity theme11:55
kagouhi11:55
xxenon2.6.11 crashes the machine during GNOME loading, while 2.6.10 worked. Known problem ?11:55
ruby[nrx_] : removed all # before URLs in the default11:55
dmoynepw,ok simply I had to switch on my Ubuntu hoary to a 1024 x 768 resolution due to my 17 " monitor but all the gnome apps such as synaptic gimp have very small characters in menus and so on ; I am using KDE and for all KDE apps I have set the fonts properly ; how to do it for Gnome apps ?11:56
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dex1grr. I'm tring to save the file to a floppy. Since I'm in the err GUI thing I opened it in 'gedit' (?) and chose save as to Floppy 1. But it says it can't mount the selected volume.11:56
crimsunxxenon: 2.6.11?  From where?11:56
keffoNonphasis, /mnt/1-40gb/fm2005mini.iso      /mnt/fm2005-mini/ auto  loop,ro 0       011:56
keffothat shoulod be enough?11:56
Lathiatdmoyne: go system->preferences->fonts and change the DPI11:56
keffoto add in fstbad11:56
keffofstab11:56
[nrx_] try removing the il. and using the base targets instead11:56
[nrx_] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/11:57
dmoynepw, you mean with Gnome session ?11:57
dex1can't remember what I did in the console earlier. -t vfat or something. I'd found a tutorial on mounting floppies.11:57
xxenoncrimsun - linux-image-2.6.11-1-k711:57
crimsunxxenon: that's a known issue, and we're asking for that package to be removed from universe.11:57
xxenonok.11:57
crimsunxxenon: the crash is due to inotify being broken.11:57
ruby[nrx_] : in all urls?11:57
[nrx_] yes11:57
crimsunxxenon: boot with "noinotify"11:57
rubyok...11:57
xxenoncrimsun - okay, thanks11:57
xxenonok.11:57
crimsunxxenon: that package is completely unsupported (hence in universe)11:58
corzaguys in k3d it says .mp3 is an unsupported format??11:58
corzak3b*11:58
[nrx_] crimsun, how's the package?11:58
pwdmoyne: Check your resolution in System->Preferences->Font->Details11:58
pwSet it to 96 for now11:58
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Nonphasiskeffo, why add in fstab, one-time mount is probably what you need11:59
dmoynepw, is this accessible with KDE ?11:59
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corzak3b cant handle mp3's what do i do11:59
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keffook11:59
keffoNonphasis,11:59
pwdmoyne: No idea. KDE is not my forte.11:59
keffoso now i write?11:59
keffoforgot what command line ;P11:59
crimsun[nrx_] : building now12:00
pwdmoyne: you can get at that by running gnome-font-properties12:00
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[nrx_] cool beans12:00
kainmm.. ubuntu wiki doesn't work12:00
rubyyeah! thanks [nrx_] ! upgrading :)12:00
kainhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/12:00
[nrx_] ruby, no problem :)12:00
Nonphasiskeffo, just try to mount it, the error msg shows what you should add as on optien12:01
kaindo you receive an error also?12:01
Nonphasiskeffo, mount my.iso /tmy12:01
Nonphasiskeffo, mount my.iso /tmp12:01
kainmm12:01
kainfor mounting iso: mount -t iso9660 iso.iso /mount/point -o loop12:01
dmoynepw, because you see when using Gnome I did it and fixed it but I am a KDE addict an ; ok it worked : it said X settings and Gnome-settings differs ; which one do you want to choose : X-settings I said and it worked ; you are very good !12:02
keffothx12:02
pw*blush*12:02
keffodo i have to tell cedega to looking for this mounted?12:02
[nrx_] aw ;p12:02
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[nrx_] it must be loved12:02
[nrx_] hah12:03
[nrx_] love, too12:03
dmoynepw , now all those Gnome apps have English language set an I am supposed to get French ! ; what to do ?12:03
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dex1Okay, I tried and failed to mount the thing. Going back into 'gedit' and saving as to 'Floppy 1'  just says error could not mount Floppy 1: mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified'. (It was formatted on an WinXP so it'd be a FAT format). :(12:05
keffokain or Nonphasis - do i have to tell Cedega to run this mounted iso-file? do you know anything bout such things..?12:05
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clxhello all12:05
crimsun[nrx_] : out of curiosity, which card are you using?12:05
Dreamer3_anyone know of memory leak in ubunut warty kernel?12:05
kainkeffo, I've no experience in cedega, sorry12:05
[nrx_] via82c66012:05
crimsunDreamer3_: describe.12:05
clxwho use fluxbox under ubuntulinux?12:05
Nonphasiskeffo, not really, once you find out, tell me too :-)12:05
[nrx_] laptop, builtin12:05
crimsunclx: I do12:05
Dreamer3_i was just plan running out of memory and tried closing/killing almost everything the other day and finally had to reboot12:05
keffosince i cant play this game without12:05
keffo;P12:05
clxcrimsun: i can't run my fluxbox12:05
estesoyyocorza, k3b DOES "eat" MP312:05
pwdmoyne: I have no idea; I've never been much of one for changing my language in Linux.12:05
crimsunclx: what are the symptoms?12:06
funkyDreamer3_: ookiller maybe ?12:06
[nrx_] crimsun, via82c66012:06
Dreamer3_free had like 500mb in use at the console, no x, no services, etc... plus mbs in swap12:06
funkyout of memory killer12:06
crimsun[nrx_] : so, using snd-via82xx?12:06
clxcrimsun: after startx my X go to down12:06
Dreamer3_funky: huh?12:06
[nrx_] crimsun, yes12:06
keffoNonphasis, sure12:06
clxcrimsun: other window managers start normal12:06
crimsunclx: any reason you're using startx explicitly?12:06
Dreamer3_funky: nothing was killed, plenty of swap... just system was deadly slow... couldn't find any app using the memory... had to reboot to free it12:06
HiddenWolfdmoye: install the french language-packs12:06
[nrx_] crimsun, cept after doing all the necessary (following alsa guide) i still have nothing12:06
crimsun[nrx_] : "nothing" being...?12:07
clxcrimsun: he want some libs12:07
HiddenWolfdmoye: then select french in the gdm language menu12:07
funkyDreamer3_: then, why you think its a kernel issue ?12:07
estesoyyocorza, you need MAD decoder12:07
funkythe leak could be in whatever app12:07
Dreamer3_funky: well, i closed like EVERY running app12:07
[nrx_] crimsun, being no sound.. volume control wouldn't pick up that there's a device though it appears in lspci, etc.12:07
Dreamer3_funky: i think it's happening again...12:07
Dreamer3_funky: i mean it was up for like 50 days before... but i expect better than that from linux12:07
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dmoynepw, thanks ; last one : I cannot use characater ">" in any Editor ; what is the reason ?12:08
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pwdmoyne: is your keyboard configured correctly?12:08
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[nrx_] brb.12:08
dmoynepw, I assume so !12:08
pwAssume not! Check it.12:09
crimsunclx: and those are...?12:09
crimsun[nrx_] : ok, does cat /proc/asound/modules  list anything?12:09
clxcrimsun: wait ..12:09
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[nrx_] crimsun, 0 snd_via82xx12:10
dmoynehiddenwolf, I am using kdm as a logging manager ; you mean I have to selectr gdm then change language with it !12:10
crimsun[nrx_] : lsmod|grep ^via8212:11
[nrx_] crimsun, via82cxxx              13084  112:11
crimsun[nrx_] : ok, good.12:12
wfxis any python developer here how want to help coding on a board game?12:12
crimsun[nrx_] : and you're using Hoary, correct?12:12
[nrx_] warty12:12
HiddenWolfdmoyne: no, you'll have to select french in kdm then.12:12
clxcrimsun: see private12:12
[nrx_] crimsun, warty, sorry12:12
crimsun[nrx_] : hum!  Have you tried the 'alsa-source' package in universe?12:13
dmoynehiddenwolf, the problem is that all my KDE apps are using French !12:13
[nrx_] crimsun, I went straight for the source on alsa-project.org and compiled from scratch12:13
clxcrimsun: see private please !12:14
crimsunclx: getting there12:14
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crimsun[nrx_] : which package, alsa-driver? alsa-lib? all?12:15
Bloody|RLChello all12:15
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Bloody|RLCwhere get nfs-servet v.3 or v.4 ???12:16
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crimsunjessica_: if you could paste that /var/log/kernel.log.0 on http://pastebin.ca, that would help12:16
Bloody|RLCin ubuntu v.2 :(12:16
jessica_crimsun: ok12:17
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PetroIs it safe to install a Debian kernel on Ubuntu?12:21
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MemnocHcrimsun, sorry bout pm12:21
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NonphasisPetro, why do you need it?12:22
[nrx_] crimsun, all12:22
[nrx_] crimsun, sorry.. kids were playing up12:22
crimsunPetro: yes, you _can_, but be aware that Ubuntu needs linux-image packages.12:22
InsanitaryAre thre always so many people in here, or are they just bots12:22
PetroI have it customed built (had to insert acx100 drivers). It will be used on the same hardware as it was built for12:22
dex1crimsun: Thanks, done. http://pastebin.ca/8307 = /var/log/XFree86.0.log12:23
NonphasisInsanitary, they are mostlry bots, though some exhibit almost human capabilities12:23
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SeveasNonphasis, lol :)12:23
MemnocHcrimsun, did u get that package made12:24
InsanitaryReally!12:24
InsanitaryWOW!12:24
InsanitaryI MUST have those bots in my room, coz i would like a bot or two that can actually do something12:24
InsanitaryMy bots can only do simple tasks.12:24
SeveasInsanitary, do youreally believe it??12:24
Seveasit's just people here12:24
crimsunMemnocH: yes, but I'm trying to figure out how to manage its strict dependencies (it's a package from Debian, and it has much stronger package-version requirements)12:24
Seveasand a few simple bots i believe12:25
MemnocHcrimsun, ok12:25
jessica_I have a problem with Ubuntu kernels on my girlfriends computer since 2.6.10. The system hangs, and programs start segfaulting. (crimsun) Please see http://atlas.et.tudelft.nl/1200348/pub/bugs/kern.log . What to do?12:25
NonphasisUbuntu is quite big these days12:25
corzaHey guys.. my kb3 cant handle .mp3's how do i fix that?12:25
InsanitaryI think i jusdt had a blonde moment12:25
corzak3b*12:25
crimsun[nrx_] : and installed them?  aieee...  That clobbered Ubuntu's infrastructure for handling ALSA...12:25
Nonphasisbigger still two weeks from now :)12:25
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jessica_( crimsun ) As you can see, I have been running 2.6.8.1 as well, which ran fine.12:26
[nrx_] crimsun, yes.. all installed with no error messages :/12:26
corzaCan someone help me with k3b?12:26
Dreamer3_anyone using warty backports?12:26
jessica_( crimsun ) especially check Mar 27 07:36:1912:26
Dreamer3_is it safe to upgrade my glib to 2.6.x for firefox 1.0.1 and gaim?12:26
SeveasDreamer3_, it is better to upgrade to hoary than to use backports12:27
SouL_ReBeLDo you know why I can't find a recent version of KVirc? i see only 2.1.3 in the repositories...12:27
Seveasbackports can really f*ck up your system and hoary is really stable already12:27
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crimsunjessica_: so you're using Warty?12:28
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estesoyyocorza, install MAD decoder12:28
[nrx_] crimsun, are there known issues with ALSA?12:28
crimsunjessica_: is there any way she can dist-upgrade to Hoary?  It has a much newer kernel.12:28
corzaestesoyyo, how do i do that?12:28
[nrx_] crimsun, or could this just be specific to the via range?12:28
crimsun[nrx_] : with the version in Warty, yes.12:28
Dreamer3_Seveas: had 0 problems with backports so far :) just worried about a major system library...12:29
crimsun[nrx_] : unfortunately the via82xx ALSA driver hasn't seen much action lately12:29
jessica_crimsun: No, I was. I dist-upgraded to hoary. Kernel 2.6.10-5-386. But it's not stable here. So I used the warty-kernel 2.6.8.1, which worked, but of course missed hoary-features12:29
Dreamer3_Seveas: and when i first installed warty it was NOT ok to upgrade to hoary :)12:29
Pizbit[nrx_] : VIA? ALSA problems? I had those until I disabled acpi12:29
[nrx_] crimsun, any patches available? I don't wanna have to up to hoary12:29
[nrx_] Pizbit, yes12:29
NonphasisPizbit, what problems?12:29
Seveasjessica_, why the 386 kernel?12:29
jessica_crimsun: I could install hoary-preview as well, but i don't think it will solve the problem12:29
PizbitUh, one sound would repeat forever12:30
crimsun[nrx_] : none that won't break due to stronger version requirements12:30
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PizbitThat or I got no sound12:30
corzain k3b how do i support .mp3 files?12:30
Seveastry tht 686 one f you're on pentium12:30
Seveasorthe k7 one for amd12:30
[nrx_] crimsun, what do you suggest I do?12:30
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crimsun[nrx_] : have you tried booting with "noapic" or "pci=noacpi" ?12:30
crimsun[nrx_] : (as Pizbit suggested)12:30
Dreamer3_Seveas: and this is my primary work/play/everything PC... in the middle of big project, no time for any problems now :)12:30
[nrx_] no12:30
jessica_Seveas: Because it's the default. I know I can optimize to k7 or anything, but I can run gentoo as well. This is about a problem, which should be fixed. Not about the possibility to run other kernels.12:30
crimsun[nrx_] : first try booting with "pci=noacpi"12:30
[nrx_] the lilo i have doesn't seem to allow you to pass options to the kernel ;o12:31
Seveasjessica_, running another kernel can fix problems...12:31
crimsun[nrx_] : err...lilo?12:31
Pizbit[nrx_] : Lilo? Ubuntu uses grub12:31
[nrx_] i know... cept i had to install a base of debian first12:31
corzai need help with k3b!!12:31
fuldlhow much free hd space do i need for an upgrade from warty to hoary?12:31
PizbitAhh12:31
crimsunjessica_: how is 2.6.10-5-386 unstable for her?12:31
MemnocHany one know the source for win32 codecs?12:31
jessica_Seveas: No it bypassed them. Please, don't disturb this conversation. I can go run freebsd as well.12:31
corzaI NEED HELP WITH K3B!12:32
[nrx_] i shall give that a bash and i'll be back shortly12:32
[nrx_] :)12:32
crimsunjessica_: Seveas is honestly attempting to assist12:32
azadcorza aha :)12:32
PizbitMemnocH: This explains all http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:32
corzaazad: can u help me?? :P12:32
azadhad the same problem12:32
MemnocHPizbit, thanks12:32
azadyou could convert 'em before12:32
corzaazad: oh??12:32
jessica_crimsun: Ok, I know, and i appreciate that - really. But I think it's good to address this problem, not bypassing it, see? :)12:32
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corzaazad: wwhat, eh, how? hmm??12:33
Seveasjessica_, fine, do what you want, i am just suggesting something, dont be a bitch about it12:33
corzaazad: explain...12:33
azadwith another application, but i don't one, sorry :(12:33
jessica_crimsun: sometimes the system spontaneously hangs, or starts getting incredibly inresponsive. I saw dpkg segfaulting, that sort of stuff12:33
azaddon't know..12:33
azadgoogle for something like that12:33
azadlinux mp3 to wav converter, maybe12:33
Pizbitjessica_: Are a lot of programs segfaulting?12:33
azador use another programm..12:33
jessica_Seveas: I'm sorry, I will probably try another kernel as well. But I would just like to improve the things for other users as well.12:33
Seveasjessica_, if everything is segfaulting than there are 3 things to do: run memtest86, upgrade kernel, upgrade libc12:34
corzacan someone help me with k3b?12:34
jessica_Pizbit: well, not very often. When eog (eye of gnome) segfaulted, i thought "well, development...". But when I couldn't apt-get dist-upgrade because of segfaulting dpkg, i became suspicious12:34
Seveasbecau these components affect memory handling for all programs12:34
crimsunjessica_: ok, and those times when it is extremely unresponsive or freezes, are there corresponding OOPSes listed in dmesg?12:34
jessica_crimsun: Yes, that's what it looks like12:35
jessica_Seveas: I will run memtest86, good point12:35
SouL_ReBeLdoes any of you know why I can't find a recent version of KVirc? There is only 2.1.3 in the repositories while current version is 3.2. I just like it more than XChat12:35
Pizbitjessica_: Hrm, I'd go with what Seveas suggested, run memtest8612:35
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jessica_I will run memtest86.12:36
crimsungreat.12:36
jessica_any preverence for 86+ above normal memtest86?12:36
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crimsunjessica_: either will work12:37
MemnocHcrimsun, anything I can do to get alsa working? Im semi linux eperienced.. Shoud I follow alsa's site on compiling alsa?12:37
crimsunMemnocH: you're on Hoary, correct?12:38
MemnocHyup12:38
[nrx] crimsun, when trying to boot with "pci=noapci" it get "PCI unknown option noapci"12:38
PizbitDreamer3_: Hrm, not the Dreamer3 from Undernet-#linuxhelp by any chance?12:38
[nrx] heh12:38
[nrx] doh12:38
crimsun[nrx] : it's pci=noacpi12:38
dex1crimsun: any thoughts on the XKB starting error that was pastebinned?12:38
Seveasnoacpi might work better :)12:38
jessica_I'll be back later, after running memtest. Thanks people.12:38
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crimsundex1: please paste the url again (got lost in the backscroll)12:39
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Pizbitsyn-ack: 'ello there:)12:39
_phreakhowdy12:39
crimsunMemnocH: yes, there's one thing to try but I'll have to tweak some things12:39
MemnocHcrimsun, ok thanks12:40
syn-ackPizbit: wow, fancy seeing you here. :)12:40
_phreakk3b-mp3 support is killing me12:40
dex1crimsun:  http://pastebin.ca/8307 = /var/log/XFree86.0.log12:40
_phreaki even tried alien'ing the damn rpm12:40
Pizbitsyn-ack: Wellll, I figured since Hoary is out soonish I should get myself current.12:40
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syn-ackPizbit: heh. What is it now, 2.5 weeks?12:40
Pizbit1.5 or so12:41
_phreakany awake kubuntu users?12:41
Pizbit_phreak: #kubuntu ?12:41
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_phreaklol12:41
omniscienthey what umask would i use in fstab to make a system that gets mounted writable/readable by mormal users?12:42
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syn-ackPizbit: I was just trying to get windows to install on my bad hard disk... I failed. Getting all these corrupt files and such.12:42
_phreakseriously, they have a KDE version called that....12:42
Pizbit_phreak: /topic12:42
Dreamer3_Pizbit: yes12:42
crimsundex1: I just noticed you're not running the newest version for Warty12:42
PizbitDreamer3_: And you're alive too:)12:42
crimsundex1: please apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade12:42
Dreamer3_Pizbit: there is only one me12:43
Dreamer3_Pizbit: and i run ubuntu, not kubuntu ;-)12:43
dex1crimsun: from within gnome > console?12:43
Pizbitsyn-ack: Heh, I had enough troubles getting windows onto a good HD(failed after 3 attempts, odd since 2 years ago it installed fine)12:43
crimsundex1: or from Synaptic, sure12:43
PizbitDreamer3_: :D12:43
_phreaksheesh, sorry, i'm out12:43
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dex1gnome terminal I mean12:43
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Dreamer3_i was asking about upgrading my glib to 2.6 from backports but not getting any positive support...12:43
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[nrx_] that didn't work12:44
[nrx_] ;/12:44
syn-ackPizbit: eh, I knew it was a bad disk. I had troubles with linux. I was trying to waste time anyway since I was bored12:44
crimsun[nrx] : now, what about noapic ?12:44
Pizbitsyn-ack: hehe, a glutton for punishment huh?12:44
syn-ackPizbit: You know it. :)12:44
[nrx_] what exactly is the syntax for that?12:44
azadhm12:44
crimsun[nrx] : noapic12:44
[nrx_] k12:45
azadYo ma gangstas whussup?12:45
azadsorry.. just felt like saying that.12:45
syn-ack*blink*12:45
xaotichi, anyone using dnsmasq and resolvconf here12:45
syn-ackxaotic: Everyone uses resolv.conf12:47
omniscient/dev/hda5       /media/shared   msdos   rw,user,umask=775       0       012:47
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omniscienti put this line in my fstab but as a user i cant even get a listing from /media/shared12:47
Pizbitomniscient: Try tacking on 000 to the end12:47
omniscientanother 0?12:47
crimsunxaotic: sorry, no.12:47
Dreamer3_syn-ack: sheesh, is everyone from #linuxhelp here now/12:47
Pizbitomniscient: 'tacking on' = 'append'12:47
syn-ackDreamer3_: :D12:47
dex1crimsun: Ok I typed those into the root terminal. for apt-get update it just said reading pkage lists ...done and for the dist-upgrade it said reading package lists... done, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. it didn't take more than a moment to finish12:48
crimsunMemnocH: have you tried 'alsa-source' from universe?12:48
Dreamer3_crimsun: is a upgrade to hoary really considered safe now?12:48
wfxwhy cant gnome render this desktop background : http://teg.sourceforge.net/data/share/other/allisfulloflove_ubuntu.svg to this: http://teg.sourceforge.net/data/share/other/allisfulloflove_ubuntu.png (is indexed)12:48
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syn-ackHave I ever mentioned that XM is the greatest thing to happen to man?12:48
crimsunDreamer3_: I certainly hope so, since 6 April, 2005 is looming12:48
azadsyn-ack, he asked for resolvconf12:48
MemnocHcrimsun, yeh I think, can I specify a repository in apt?12:48
PizbitDreamer3_: I upgraded to hoary some time ago and it was safe then, I'd imagine that being so close to the release point it'd be safe now too.12:48
azad:)12:48
crimsunMemnocH: is universe enabled?12:48
Pizbitsyn-ack: I could google it, but I CBF, XM?12:49
LindoHAS anyone in here got Enemy Territory Working on AMD 64 ?12:49
MemnocHcrimsun, yup12:49
syn-ackPizbit: XM radio12:49
omniscientPizbit, I get the same permission errors when I try to ls the directory12:49
syn-ackPizbit: www.xmradio.com12:49
crimsunMemnocH: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source12:49
Pizbitomniscient: Did you remount the partition?12:49
omniscientyes12:49
dex1crimsun: does that mean the apt-get update/dist-upgrade didn't work properly? Or is that what should happen12:50
kainrhythmbox doesn't work anymore. Got error opening "file:///mnt/storage/mp3/da%20sistemare/Aborym/With%20No%20Human%20Intervention/Aborym%20-%20Humechanics-virus.mp3":12:50
kainevery mp312:50
omniscient/dev/hda5       /media/shared   msdos   rw,user,umask=775       0       0       00012:50
crimsundex1: err, are you running Hoary?12:50
MemnocHcrimsun, ok 6 min for that to run through12:50
omniscientthat is what my fstab entry looks like now12:50
dex1warty12:50
Seveaskain, and wat is the error?12:50
dex1I only have that12:50
Pizbitomniscient: Woa, msdos?:)12:50
syn-ackold sk00l12:50
kainSeveas, that's the one I wrote12:50
omniscientlol, yes the fs, but no, windows xp is the alternate12:50
PizbitAre you sure it's not vfat or whatever passes for fat these days?12:50
LindoHAS anyone in here got Enemy Territory Working on AMD 64 ?12:51
omniscienti just read that ntfs write isnt very nice12:51
kainit shows up in console12:51
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crimsundex1: right, I thought so.  No, you should update && dist-upgrade.  There are a _lot_ of security updates for Warty.12:51
omniscientso i used fat for my shared partition12:51
Seveaskain, that error sure isn;t helpful :)12:51
[nrx_] crimsum, "Sorry, no mixer elements or sound devices found"12:51
Pizbitomniscient: Try changing msdos to vfat, just a guess12:51
Seveasis /mnt/storage still mounted?12:51
omniscientoh ok12:51
omniscientmakes sence12:51
crimsun[nrx_] : with noapic, correct?12:51
Seveaskain, and have you installed mp3 codecs?12:51
dex1crimsun: I thought that's what I did. But it didn't seem to *do* anything???12:51
kainSeveas, ehe, I know, but this tell me this. yes,it's mounted without problem, the only thing I'm doing on drive is download a big thing with wget12:51
kainto /mnt/storage12:52
crimsundex1: did you restart gdm after the dist-upgrade finished?12:52
Seveaskain, if this only hapened after an upgrade to hoare, re-install the codecs12:52
dex1crimsun: syn-ack: Dreamer3_: :D12:52
dex1dex1: crimsun: Ok I typed those into the root terminal. for apt-get update it just said reading pkage lists ...done and for the dist-upgrade it said reading package lists... done, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. it didn't take more than a moment to finish12:52
dex1crimsun: MemnocH: have you tried 'alsa-source' from universe?12:52
omniscientPizbit, same deal man :(12:52
MemnocHdex1,  yup12:52
omniscientis the umask part right?12:52
kainSeveas, yesterday was working, maybe I only need to restart in order to update something upgraded12:52
crimsundex1: oh wait, please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list onto http://pastebin.ca12:52
kainSeveas, thing that I haven't done yet12:52
Pizbitomniscient: Hrm, oh yeah, try adding in defaults to the options12:52
dex1crimsun: I didn't restart but it took <5secs to do that so I doubt it did anything?12:52
dex1kk will do that now12:52
[nrx_] crimsun, yes with noapic12:52
Pizbit[nrx_] : Is this a new install btw?12:53
crimsun[nrx_] : please paste /proc/interrupts onto pastebin.ca12:53
omniscientPizbit, same deal again12:53
[nrx_] Pizbit, yes12:53
Pizbitomniscient: How are you remounting it?12:53
omniscientI can access it as root, works fine as root. Just for conveniance i'd like to access it as a user12:54
Pizbit[nrx_] : Is the network and USB working properly?12:54
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omniscienti'm using 'mount /media/shared'12:54
omniscientand it mounts, but not so a user can access it12:54
[nrx_] Pizbit, yes12:54
MemnocHcrimsun, thats done12:54
crimsunMemnocH: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source12:54
omniscient(i can mount and umount as a user by the way, i just can't access anything!)12:54
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crimsunMemnocH: choose "no" for PnP, "yes" for debug, and the emu10k1 driver12:55
crimsunMemnocH: audigy2, correct?12:55
MemnocHyup12:55
[nrx_] crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/830812:55
crimsunMemnocH: not value or zs or anything...12:55
MemnocHcrimsun, audigy 2 value12:55
crimsunMemnocH: ok12:56
Dreamer3_is there more to pugrading than change sources, apt-get dist-upgrade?12:56
crimsun[nrx_] : wait...is this a laptop?12:56
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[nrx_] crimsun, yes.. i said that to you before ;p12:56
cuscohi12:56
crimsun[nrx_] : gosh, I missed that12:56
PizbitDreamer3_: Nah, just change all instantances of warty to hoary; apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade12:56
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[nrx_] crimsun, lol - sorry12:57
ITAYhi!12:57
crimsun[nrx_] : make & model?12:57
cuscoI can't watch some avi files with totem... do I need some sort of codecs or something?12:57
[nrx_] crimsun, Fujitsu Seimens Amilo D12:57
[nrx_] crimsun, the older Amilo D12:57
ITAYI still have problem with the installation disc,12:57
Pizbitcusco: All you need to know http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:57
omniscientPizbit, I'll ask Google, he'll probably know ;) Thanks anyway mate12:57
cuscoPizbit: thanks12:57
ITAYthat I don't have with the live C12:57
Dreamer3_Pizbit: and if all hell breaks lose?12:57
ITAYD12:57
PizbitDreamer3_: Shit happens, get over it :D12:57
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[nrx] crimsun, http://www-student.informatik.uni-bonn.de/~prokop/amilo-d/amilo-d_en.html#kernel24 <-- is my laptop12:58
crimsun[nrx_] : hmm, tried booting with acpi_irq_isa=7 ?12:58
Dreamer3_ah, no warranty? :)12:58
PizbitDreamer3_: Although IMHO I'd: apt-get -d dist-upgrade then kill off x after it's finished and run without -d12:58
MemnocHcrimsun, alsamixer still fails to load, need to reboot?12:58
crimsunMemnocH: you haven't done the actual work yet12:58
[nrx_] crimsun, nope... think it'll work?12:58
crimsun[nrx_] : worth a try12:59
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MemnocHcrimsun, aahh ok :) Ill document this for others then12:59
dex1crimsun: Attempting to save as /etc/apt/sources.list via 'gedit' to floppy0 brings up error: couldn't save the file "/media/floppy0/sources.list".12:59
crimsunMemnocH: now, cd /usr/src && sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && cd modules/alsa-driver12:59
omniscientPizbit: I had to make the umask=0000, is that what you meant by tacking on 000?12:59
[nrx_] crimsun, i'll give it a go then12:59
omniscientPizbit, it's working now :)12:59
Pizbitomniscient: Nah, but heyyy:)12:59
crimsundex1: you probably lack sufficient permissions01:00
omniscientHeh ok, well thanks anyway01:00
MemnocHcrimsun, ok done that01:00
Pizbitomniscient: I based it on my: /dev/hdc1    /home/pizbit/vault ext3    defaults,user_xattr     0 0     00001:00
dockanewhere do i change the monitor from "standard display" to something usefull like generic1024 ? in gnome ubuntu only offers me 640 on my thinpad t21.01:01
Dreamer3_Pizbit: -d?01:01
crimsunMemnocH: sudo ./debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/ KVERS=$(uname -r)01:01
PizbitDreamer3_: Download only mode01:01
dex1crimsun: so should I try to copy it via the root terminal window somehow then?01:01
Dreamer3_Pizbit: i wonder how many days of downloads it will take :)01:01
=== Dreamer3_ goes to see
crimsundex1: hmm, you're just trying to paste it onto pastebin, correct?01:01
kainSeveas, well, run gstreamer-properties and set alsa as default, don't know why it was reverted to oss, everything is ok now01:02
dex1crimsun: two different machines. the ubuntu one isn't online - though it has a floppy drive01:02
crimsundex1: right01:02
PizbitDreamer3_: The idea being, download everything while you can still play around in the gui etc etc etc, then actually install the packages without X and whatnot running01:02
MemnocHcrimsun,  ok done01:02
xaoticcan anyone recommend a good combination of DHCP+DNS+Firewall for home networking use?01:02
crimsundex1: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /media/floppy0/.01:02
Dreamer3_Pizbit: yes, i get the idea :) apt-get updates now to see how many MB of downloads it would be01:02
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PizbitDreamer3_: 'a few'01:03
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dockanexaotic, are you looking for a distribution ?01:03
Dreamer3_Pizbit: a few days or few MB :)01:03
xaoticdockane: no, just ubuntu packages01:03
PizbitDreamer3_: Either or :D01:03
MemnocHcrimsun, Install the deb?01:03
Bloody|RLCwhere get nfs-servet v.3 or v.4 ???01:03
crimsunMemnocH: yep01:04
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black_nightmarehey there01:04
crimsun'lo01:04
=== Dreamer3_ wonders how much hoary is going to change in the next few days
PizbitDreamer3_: Probably a fair chunk of realllly minor changes to packages heh01:04
dex1crimsun: "cp: cannot create regular file '/media/floppy0/sources.list': No space left on device". The floppy only has a 45k text on it so has a meg free. :/01:04
black_nightmarecrimsun :p ~ I learned a bit more yesterday night ;)01:05
Bazzicannot be worse than 500MB download ;)01:05
black_nightmareespecially using synaptic as well too :)01:05
MemnocHcrimsun, ok done that01:05
dockanedid anybody experience the problem, that ubuntu only offers 640x480 after install ? i still do not know how to solve this01:05
MemnocHwhat are the modules I need to put in /etc/modules ?01:05
Dreamer3_Pizbit: just enough to make me redownload a crapload for no reason? :)01:06
black_nightmaredockane..might be due to the video card not being known/corrupted and or the mointor itself?01:06
black_nightmareno real idea thou01:06
BazziDreamer3_: yes.01:06
crimsunMemnocH: none needed, should pick up automatically.  Try: sudo modprobe snd-emu10k101:06
Bazzi;)01:06
syn-ackdockane: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (on Warty)01:06
PizbitDreamer3_: Possibly :)01:06
Dreamer3_Bazzi: dial-up sucks01:06
BazziDreamer3_ true.01:06
MemnocHno response, assume it worked?01:06
crimsunMemnocH: yep.01:06
Bazziespecially for linux01:06
dockanesyn-ack, i am on ubuntu with xorg01:06
crimsunMemnocH: now, alsamixer01:06
=== Dreamer3_ thinks he needs a girlfriend with highspeed
syn-ackdockane: ok01:06
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[nrx_] :/01:06
syn-ackdockane: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:07
PizbitDreamer3_: Work?:)01:07
=== Dreamer3_ looks for linux's background update feature like windows XPSP2 :)
Dreamer3_Pizbit: huh?01:07
Dreamer3_Pizbit: work is dial-up :)01:07
PizbitW.T.F?:)01:07
[nrx_] crimsun, i can only presume that i've done something wrong during the process of installing alsa... though i got no error messages01:07
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crimsun[nrx_] : ok, let me double-check, since I'm getting sleepy here.01:07
syn-ackDreamer3_: run a cronjob on it01:07
dockaneblack_nightmare, yes xorg.conf has entries with standard display and so on, but every mode entry describes 1024 which is a bit strange01:07
ellsanyone familiar with gtkpod01:07
crimsun[nrx_] : you were using snd-via82xx or snd-intel8x0 ?01:07
ellscrimsun: hey what is upman01:08
crimsunells: nm, yourself?01:08
Dreamer3_Pizbit: it's the most [only]  cutting edge technology firm in town and there is just no high speed here without $$$$01:08
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ellscrimsun: pretty good01:08
crimsunells: excellent01:08
PizbitDreamer3_: Buahaha01:08
ellscrimsun: are you familiar with gtkpod01:08
Dreamer3_Pizbit: you'd be surprised how many people can really share a dial-up connection though :)01:08
crimsunells: I am not, sorry01:08
WeirdAlHow do I tell Flash to use ALSA?01:08
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PizbitDreamer3_: 0.001?01:08
Dreamer3_Pizbit: it's pretty amazing it they all don't try to upgrade to hoary at once *laughs*01:09
ellscrimsun: trying to get this thing to sync withmy ipod. already ost music cause it wont01:09
crimsunWeirdAl: you can tell it to use esd01:09
[nrx_] crimsun, i was using snd-via82xx01:09
WeirdAlcrimsun: esd isn't active.01:09
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PizbitDreamer3_: Does all of work use Ubuntu now?01:09
WeirdAlIt was lagging and crap.01:09
Dreamer3_Pizbit: so are you loving hoary?01:09
crimsunWeirdAl: what sound card?01:09
WeirdAlAll my sound problems were solved by disabling esd ... apart from now Flash doesn't work.01:09
WeirdAlnForce01:09
Pizbit'loving' would not be my word of choice, but it's good.01:09
crimsunWeirdAl: ah, not sure how you could do that then.01:09
ellscrimsun: spoke to soon, it is syncing as we speak01:09
MemnocHcrimsun, thanks seems to be all ok01:09
Dreamer3_Pizbit: hehehe, no just me :)01:10
WeirdAloh OK01:10
WeirdAl:-\01:10
MemnocHpoint2play reports its all ok01:10
Dreamer3_Pizbit: was merely an example01:10
syn-ackPizbit: For the most part, I would have to say that its a rock. :)01:10
crimsunMemnocH: so you've unmuted Master, PCM, and the Analog/Digital toggles?01:10
black_nightmarehmm that reminds me...01:10
Dreamer3_Pizbit: hmmm... you don't love ubuntu like everyone else... we're going to have to excommunicate you01:10
crimsunMemnocH: and you've set the volumes at sane levels?01:10
black_nightmarewhats the link to ubuntu forum?01:10
dex1It just won't save it to the floppy. That's all I want to do. Why is this so HARD! :(01:10
Pizbitsyn-ack: *grin* I've screwed around with it so much that I'm going to reinstall when Hoary is released.01:10
syn-ackPizbit: Heh.01:10
PizbitDreamer3_: *sob* :)01:10
MemnocHcrimsun, unmuted everything, didnt touch the volume01:10
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syn-ackPizbit: Using the backports, I take it? ;)01:11
Pizbitsyn-ack: In part due to haveing a malformed sources.list for a while01:11
PizbitNah, using Hoary currently01:11
syn-ackPizbit: How in the hell did you manage that?01:11
Pizbitsyn-ack: *shrug* 4-5am in the morning....01:11
crimsun[nrx_] : did you paste your lspci -v onto pastebin?  (Apologies if you did)01:11
[nrx_] no01:11
syn-ackPizbit: heh01:11
[nrx_] crimsun, shall do so now01:12
crimsunMemnocH: afaik, you just want to unmute the Analog/Digital toggle, Master, and PCM01:12
Pizbitsyn-ack: Well, I threw in a debian respository when I had meant to uncomment after I'd grabbed a package...01:12
dockanelooks like that the questions on this configure dialogues are not adopted to xorg01:12
syn-ackPizbit: um, OUCH01:12
[nrx_] crimsun, do you just want the section for the sound card?01:12
crimsun[nrx_] : sure01:13
syn-ackhrm, I think I should install xorg01:13
Pizbitsyn-ack: Heh, not that bad actuallly, I figured it out when I went to dist-upgrade at one point, the system works fine:D01:13
syn-ackPizbit: Good good01:13
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syn-ackYAY! the wiki's down again01:13
MemnocHcrimsun, ok, thank101:13
Pizbitblack_nightmare: Start from ubuntulinux.org and follow the links since I'm bored.01:13
[nrx_] crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/830901:13
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crimsunblack_nightmare: it's surprisingly http://www.ubuntuforums.org/01:14
=== Pizbit watches Space Cowboys.
black_nightmarety crimsun....I'm quite slow on ram so kinda like to directly go straight to a site online when I need it....for now01:14
black_nightmaretill I can locate a 2nd 128MB stick to put in this motherboard01:14
syn-ackPizbit: Have you checked out AR 7 for linux yet? nice...01:15
Dreamer3_Pizbit: 2 minutes until apt-get update completes *laughs*01:15
crimsun[nrx_] : and that's the only audio-related one?01:15
[nrx_] well, there's other VIA entries but that's for other onboard stuff01:16
Pizbitsyn-ack: "AR 7" Never heard of it.01:16
syn-ackDreamer3_: hrm "apt-get update"....*30 seconds later* *DING!* done. :p01:16
syn-ackPizbit: Adobe Reader 701:16
PizbitAhh, nope01:16
black_nightmarenrx..just curious but you running atx or itx board? :)01:16
[nrx_] black_nightmare, laptop01:17
syn-ackPizbit: They arent using the crappy motif interface anymore.01:17
Pizbitsyn-ack: Yeah, the inquirer had a write up on it01:17
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black_nightmareoh ic...bah :p01:18
black_nightmareyou know..that makes me wondering....01:18
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black_nightmareif I'm the first to think about ubuntu on via epia or not :)01:18
crimsun[nrx_] : and amixer doesn't return anything resembling mixer status?01:19
[nrx_] uh, shall i paste the output to pastebin for you?01:19
wfxblack_nightmare, does it not work on it?01:19
wfxepia is the motherboard right?01:20
crimsun[nrx_] : if it says something resembling "no control found", then no01:20
black_nightmarewfx....well I've been wondering about getting one..saw a cheap deal on ebay for a nice 1ghz one01:20
apokryphosSomeone deleted the Wiki frontpage?01:21
crimsun[nrx_] : but if it spits out a bit of stuff, then yes01:21
[nrx_] crimsun, no, it's come out with reams and reams of stuff01:21
black_nightmarehaven't been able to locate much yet about whats supported and not yet on these boards01:21
crimsun[nrx_] : oh excellent!01:21
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crimsun[nrx_] : yes, please paste that to pastebin01:21
crimsunapokryphos: undergoing maintenance, probably01:21
[nrx_] crimsun, just wating on pastebin actually posting it heh01:22
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apokryphoscrimsun: hopefully ;)01:22
WeirdAlHey ... how come I don't have permission to remove or alter ~/.wine?01:22
syn-ackMan, it would be nice to have the ability to have X reparse the config file without having to restart it.01:22
crimsunsyn-ack: it can.01:23
apokryphosWeirdAl: check the permissions. ln -la ~01:23
syn-ackcrimsun: oh? How would one go about that?01:23
wfxdepends on the epia model/version01:23
crimsunsyn-ack: kill -SIGUSR2 $(pidof X)01:23
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apokryphosWeirdAl: *ls01:23
oowfI just started using Hoary Live.. my first experience with Linux and I can't find anyplace to put my password for the email client.  Can someone help?01:23
dockanereconfigure didn't do it :(01:24
WeirdAlah, it's root's.01:24
apokryphosWeirdAl: how did you install it?01:24
WeirdAlHmm ... I must have been root when I installed it.01:24
WeirdAlO_o01:24
apokryphosWeirdAl: you shouldn't really be using root at all :P. Sudo suffices.01:24
wfxblack_nightmare, maybe you found this inerresting: http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2004/08/2801:24
dex1Now gedit says that it's saved sources.list to the floppy but when I try to look via file manager at the floppy (Floppy 1:loppy0) I find it's empty. Can anyone help?01:24
black_nightmarewfx...well...this board is actually kinda borrowing epia in its own design.. it uses via's epia processor and via chipsets but the board design is another company's ... and it supports a 3-pci riser plus has one onboard mini-pci01:25
WeirdAlYeah, I know ... I think I was doing loads and typing sudo was annoying.01:25
crimsundex1: what did you copy it as?01:25
black_nightmareand for only $99.99usd bid so far...about four or five days left01:25
no0ticoowf: try downloading your email, it will probably ask you your password, depending on what client you are using01:25
wfxblack_nightmare, http://www.epiawiki.org/ :)01:25
black_nightmarety anyhow wfx01:25
Dreamer3_i need 448mb, sheesh01:25
oowfI tried that.. I am just using what came with the CD.01:25
apokryphosWeirdAl: sudo -s01:25
oowfIt didn't ask.01:25
oowfJust said it couldn't connect.01:26
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black_nightmareany of you know if its possible to like scan your hardware like try locate what irq/etc a particular unseen-yet card is sitting at?01:26
wfxblack_nightmare, sorry what mean you last post?01:26
WeirdAlWhat does sudo -s do?01:26
=== Dreamer3_ sighs.
dex1crimsun: 'save as' via gedit. I also tried via the root terminal as advised. but that (cp etc/apt/sources.list /media/floppy0/) returned input/output error01:26
crimsunWeirdAl: root shell01:26
apokryphosWeirdAl: try it :). It'll make it so that you don't have to keep putting the sudo; just like a root session, but really it's just you, with root permissions.01:26
WeirdAlThat's handy :-)01:26
syn-ackcrypticreign: Well, that wasnt exactly what I was looking for, but it got the job done01:26
syn-ackcrimsun, that is01:26
apokryphosWeirdAl: Yeah. You really should never ever need the root account. :)01:27
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crimsundex1: where is your diskette mounted?01:27
crimsun[nrx_] : please paste to http:llpastebin.com01:28
crimsunerr01:28
crimsunhttp://pastebin.com01:28
black_nightmarehm...anyone?01:28
Dreamer3_i think i'll just wait for the CD01:28
=== Dreamer3_ betting you can't dist-upgrade from the CD, or can you/
WeirdAlAnyone know where I can get arial32.exe, since the server at sourceforge doesn't seem to want to give it to me?01:28
apokryphoscrimsun: always easier to just have the www. instead ;)01:28
syn-ackcrimsun: what that did was basically Ctrl + Alt + BS, not what I was wanting to do..01:28
no0ticoowf: so the problem is before you can insert your password01:29
dex1In the /media folder ther're two subfolders  (apart from the cd-rom ones). 1) floppy (turqouise in terminal) and 2) floppy0 (dark blue). when I 'ls' in either of those folders they're empty tho01:29
dex1sorry that was to crimsun in response01:29
no0ticoowf: it's on your connection01:29
syn-ackDreamer3_: if you have packages which are newer than the ones on your system, sure01:29
=== black_nightmare goes to wait
crimsundex1: and ls -a  ?01:29
Dreamer3_syn-ack: so i can dist-upgrade from a hoary CD?01:29
crimsunsyn-ack: erm, that does work... I use it to reread my mouse's config01:30
dex1crimsun: from /media/floppy? or /floppy0 ?01:30
crimsundex1: either01:30
=== Dreamer3_ wonders if a hoary cd downloaded today would rsync well with the release, and doubts it :)
syn-ackDreamer3_: I dont see why not, though I would take it from the repos since those packages may be newer than the ones on the CD01:30
Dreamer3_Pizbit: what would it take for you to burn and mail me a hoary cd when it's released?01:30
syn-ackDreamer3_: jigdo01:30
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Dreamer3_syn-ack: well, obviously i'd add both the CD and repository01:31
[nrx_] crimsun, www.nimrodx.net/amixer.txt  - sorry, pastebin has stopped working for me01:31
dex1from media/floppy, ls - a returns: ". ..". While from /media/floppy0 it shows the same thing01:31
Dreamer3_jigdo?01:31
syn-ackDreamer3_: I dont know if Ubuntu has it *yet* but its a Debian thing that does just what you want01:32
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KirusDoes anyone know how to solve that "serial mouse" problem while using the live cd?01:32
Dreamer3_syn-ack: i want someone to burn a cd and mail it to me ;-)01:32
scizzoKirus: what serial mouse problem?01:32
syn-ackDreamer3_: You in the states?01:32
Dreamer3_syn-ack: yes01:32
[nrx_] crimsun, d'you get that okay?01:33
KirusThe Kubuntu doesnt recognize my serial mouse. :(01:33
syn-ackDreamer3_: Where?01:33
crimsun[nrx_] : lsmod|grep ^snd_via82xx01:33
black_nightmarewfx I'm not sure where to even click at all on that epiawiki site to check hardware supports?01:33
Dreamer3_syn-ack: indiana01:33
syn-ackDreamer3_: /msg01:33
[nrx_] crimsun, snd_via82xx            25696  001:33
black_nightmare:)01:33
Dreamer3_syn-ack: i downloaded warty over a period of like 5 days :)01:33
crimsun[nrx_] : great.01:33
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[nrx_] crimsun, oh?01:34
scizzoKirus: kubuntu... :P01:34
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scizzoKirus: ask in #kubuntu01:34
scizzoKirus: they might have answers?01:34
apokryphosscizzo: erm, no. This is an Ubuntu related question; not a KDE one.01:34
WeirdAlDreamer3_, you'd probably have been better off getting it delivered to you :-)01:34
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scizzoapokryphos: GAH! he only said kubuntu.. :P01:34
corzaWeirdAl: how do i burn mp3's on k3b?01:34
Echyloquestion, I just launched ET by accident, but now my screen is fucked up, but it's busy ripping a cd, can I get my good resolution without restarting gnome?01:34
Echyloet is a game btw01:35
scizzoKirus: does the mouse work at all?01:35
cuscoplayer-586: Depends: libartsc0 (>= 1.3.1) but 1.2.3-1 is to be installed01:35
apokryphosscizzo: don't be put off by it. ;) Kubuntu is Ubuntu, just with a different default-setup.01:35
cuscowhat does this mean?01:35
KirusNo..  he stands still. at the center of my screen01:35
WeirdAlHave you updated, cusco?01:35
scizzoapokryphos: yeah..I know...I was just thinking that maybe if KDE starts something weird....it might screw things up01:35
black_nightmarealso...any of you know whats that small icon left of the date/clock being for?01:35
WeirdAlsudo apt-get update01:35
apokryphosscizzo: KDE uses the same X as Gnome...01:36
scizzoKirus: sounds like a fun issue01:36
WeirdAlsudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:36
cuscoWeirdAl: yes01:36
[nrx_] black_nightmare, volume?01:36
cuscoI did01:36
scizzoKirus: you can still work with a normal terminal?01:36
apokryphosKirus: have you tried reconfiguring yoru x?01:36
WeirdAloh :-\01:36
apokryphos*your01:36
scizzoKirus: I mean tty?01:36
WeirdAlcusco: going to have to let someone else answer that, I'm afraid.01:36
black_nightmarenrx..it says something like 'there are 56 updates available' ..?01:36
cuscook01:36
[nrx_] black_nightmare, lol, wonder what that could be for then?01:36
=== black_nightmare still does not have a sound card anyhow hehe :D
cuscoIll ask again in a couple of minutes01:36
KirusYes...  I even tried a how to.  But i think it needs a full instalation to work01:36
scizzoapokryphos: yeah but I mean something in the background of KDE01:36
crimsun[nrx_] : sudo modprobe -r snd_via82xx && sudo modprobe snd-via82xx ac97_quirk=101:36
black_nightmarenrx okie :p01:37
KirusI tried the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" command01:37
apokryphosscizzo: nah :P01:37
scizzoapokryphos: gnome has things in the background that can screw up...esd as a good example01:37
scizzoapokryphos: :)01:37
apokryphosKirus: if you're using Kubuntu, then you have xorg, not xfree.01:37
[nrx_] crimsun, k. done that with no errors01:37
dex1crimsun: any thoughts on the sources.list file getting onto the floppy? :/01:37
crimsun[nrx_] : then try playing a wav file with aplay -Dplughw:0,0 foo.wav01:37
apokryphosKirus: so, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. You are running Hoary, right?01:37
[nrx_] any wav files come with ubuntu?01:38
[nrx_] i aint got any on the machine as yet01:38
crimsun[nrx_] : any mp3s?01:38
crimsunor ogg vorbis or flac or ...01:38
[nrx_] i can get some on01:38
apokryphos[nrx] : do a locate01:38
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apokryphosI don't think any do.01:38
KirusYes, i think..  :)01:38
crimsunyes, you have .wavs01:38
crimsunubuntu-sounds01:38
apokryphosKirus: output of cat /etc/issue?01:38
crimsun[nrx_] : aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/startup3.wav01:39
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apokryphosweird; I wonder why locate didn't find those.01:39
KirusI dont know... I new at this.01:39
crimsunapokryphos: dpkg -l ubuntu-sounds|grep ^ii01:39
[nrx_] crimsun, i had to do sudo aplay etcetcetc01:39
KirusIm new...01:39
apokryphoshmm, removing the wildcard doe sit.01:39
crimsun[nrx_] : why sudo?01:40
[nrx_] crimsun, and secondly, Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/startup3.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rat e 44100 Hz, Stereo01:40
[nrx_] appeared but i hear no sound at all01:40
apokryphosKirus: in konsole, type "cat /etc/issue". No problem; we're here to help. :)01:40
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m|nihi01:40
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crimsun[nrx_] : please check alsamixer and make sure Master and PCM are unmuted01:40
[nrx_] crimsun, sudo because it said permission denied01:40
black_nightmareany of you used Software Updates before?01:40
[nrx_] where do i get that01:40
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crimsun[nrx_] : groups|grep audio01:40
apokryphos[nrx] : alsamixer01:40
apokryphosin Terminal01:40
crimsundex1: does copying simply not work?01:41
dex1crimsun: No it will not work01:41
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[nrx_] Item: Master [Off] 01:42
[nrx_] how does one turn it on?01:42
crimsun[nrx_] : press 'm'01:42
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dex1from gedit saving as to floppy0 doesnt work. and from the root terminal with the cp command it just said input output error.01:42
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[nrx_] crimsun, still no sound at all01:43
Dreamer3_well, 448mb means no upgrade to hoary anytime soon :)01:43
[nrx_] and i have to sudo everything, too01:43
dex1I must've been at the install for around 24 hours now. sigh.01:43
black_nightmaredreamer3 lol...and I'm trying to decide if I should use Software Updates or not :p01:43
crimsundex1: heh.  I've been awake for nearly 40.01:43
apokryphosIf you snooze, you lose.01:43
crimsun[nrx_] : both Master and PCM are unmuted?01:44
dex1I desperately need to snooze. I just want it to work. Even a little. :p01:44
[nrx_] crimsun, yes01:44
Dreamer3_oh well, i'll get it after it's released01:44
UnbuntuBabyive got the trickiest question that ive ever posted yet...01:44
crimsundex1: argh, just do this:01:44
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UnbuntuBabyWhithout formatting my drive, how can i log into Ubuntu given that my passwords have become corrupted?01:44
dex1Done that crimsun01:45
crimsundex1: make sure the warty-security lines are uncommented01:45
dex1in gedit01:45
crimsundex1: i.e., no leading '#'01:45
UnbuntuBabyi.e. how can i reset my root password without having access to any passwords?01:45
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SeveasUnbuntuBaby, why would you want to do that?01:45
Seveasow wait, i see :)01:45
UnbuntuBabyFor some reason ive gotten an uncommon password error01:45
crimsunUnbuntuBaby: boot from the ubuntu cd and specify the root partition01:46
[nrx_] crimsun, when i try and toggle volume from gnome, it bounces back to zero, too01:46
UnbuntuBabyhuh? okay progress one sec.....01:46
crimsunubuntulog: like: linux root=/dev/hda1 init=/bin/bash01:46
crimsunargh01:46
crimsunUnbuntuBaby: ^^^01:46
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UnbuntuBabycrimsun et. al. hang on there for one sec as i do this...01:46
crimsun[nrx_] : use alsamixer01:46
[nrx_] crimsun, i did ... just saying :).. but still nowt01:47
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crimsun[nrx_] : so the mute is automatically re-enabled?01:47
dex1stupid read only file. grr.01:47
UnbuntuBabybooting into Ubuntu PowerPC CD now...01:47
[nrx_] crimsun, no01:48
[nrx_] crimsun, not in alsamixer.. but in gnome, the little volume icon wont say where you put it01:48
crimsun[nrx_] : does aplay hang, or does it complete without sound whatsoever?01:48
UnbuntuBabyjust typed expert at the firmware prompt...01:48
St0n3-C0lUnbuntuBaby: It should be UbuntuBaby01:48
[nrx_] crimsun, it completes with no sound whatsoever01:48
WeirdAlSomeone here know all about wine?01:48
St0n3-C0l:p01:48
WeirdAlSpecifically winetools01:48
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PizbitDreamer3_: I'd go with ordering the cd, I believe you can have them send you hoary cds when they're out.01:48
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WeirdAlThe problem -- when I try to install "HTML Help Update Package" it causes the debugger to start.01:49
Dreamer3_Pizbit: i'm going to try and get a ethernet port at the library maybe01:50
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crimsun[nrx_] : /join #flood and paste output from cat /proc/asound/pcm01:50
crimsunI'll bbi10 mins01:50
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[nrx_] crimsun, no such file or directory?01:51
[nrx_] crimsun, spelt it wrong lol01:51
[nrx_] crimsun, just a one liner... 00-00: VIA 82C686A/B rev50 : VIA 82C686A/B rev50 : playback 1 : capture 101:52
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DalkusHappy Easter All! :)01:52
woodywartyHi all01:53
dex1when logging in to the gui, what is the default 'root' password?01:53
woodywartyHow do I use GnuPG in Evolution?01:53
apokryphosdex1: there isn't one. Ubuntu uses sudo.01:53
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syn-ackwoodywarty: man gpg01:54
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syn-ackwoodywarty: then you apply all that you did to Evolution01:54
alterimanyone know about acx100 driver?01:54
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alterimand wireless setup?01:54
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dex1siiigh. the /etc/apt/sources.list file opens in read only in gedit so I can't edit it. how do i alter permissions on it01:57
[nrx] open it with sudo01:58
crimsundex1: don't, just use sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list01:58
apokryphosPyre: tell dex1 ubusudo01:58
Pyredex1: http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:58
Bazzisudo vim!01:58
[nrx] crimsun, did you get the above01:58
[nrx] ?01:58
crimsun[nrx] : yes01:58
[nrx] crimsun, okay01:58
woodywartyWhich GnuPG key should I use in Evolution ? The public key or the private key01:58
apokryphosdex1: you can also use Alt + F2 > gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:58
dex1bazzi: took me 5 minutes to get out've vim yesterday :p01:58
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crimsun[nrx] : close all sound apps, sudo modprobe -r snd_via82xx && sudo modprobe snd-via82xx dxs_support=101:58
Bazzidex1 haha :)01:59
syn-ackwoodywarty: you use the public key id01:59
[nrx] crimsun, k, done that01:59
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crimsun[nrx] : check alsamixer, unmute Master and PCM, adjust the volumes, try aplay again01:59
UnbuntuBabycrimsun, you said earlier to reboot from CD and specify the root partition, yeah?01:59
crimsunUnbuntuBaby: yes01:59
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crimsunUnbuntuBaby: root=/your/root/partition init=/bin/bash01:59
syn-ackwoodywarty: note that you should send your public key to pgp.mit,edu02:00
syn-ackrather, pgp.mit.edu02:00
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black_nightmare:p02:00
[nrx_] crimsun, still nothing.02:00
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[nrx_] crimsun, could this have anything to do with the fact that I have to use sudo for *everything*?02:00
apokryphos[nrx] : absolutely everything? Someone is certainly going wrong...02:01
crimsun[nrx_] : what was the result of that groups command I had you execute/02:01
[nrx_] crimsun, nothing.. no output02:01
zzyberhas someone tried openoffice2 yet? Is it possible to upgrade to 2.0 from ubuntus 1.3?02:01
crimsun[nrx_] : that's why, your user doesn't have permission to play sounds02:01
apokryphoszzyber: I tried it, but I don't notice much difference. You should be able to from apt, sure.02:01
woodywartyThe public key does not work in Evolution02:01
crimsun[nrx] : sudo adduser $USER audio02:01
dex1crimsun: save-d02:02
crimsundex1: warty-security line(s) is(are) uncommented?02:02
[nrx_] crimsun, mart@enforcer:~$ aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/startup3.wav02:02
[nrx_] aplay: main:507: audio open error: Permission denied02:02
[nrx_] mart@enforcer:~$02:02
corzawhat program can i burn Audio CD's in?02:02
crimsun[nrx_] : you have to log out and back in02:02
apokryphoscorza: K3B02:02
corzai have K3B but it doesnt work02:02
crimsun[nrx_] : for now, just continue using sudo02:02
corzait says .mp3 files are unsupported02:02
zzyberapokryphos, okey i will check it out. I have some printing problems with my hp 920c and i thought maybe 2.0 would fix it02:02
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apokryphoscorza: do you have the k3b mp3 file?02:03
crimsun[nrx_] : sudo modprobe -r snd_via82xx && sudo modprobe snd-via82xx dxs_support=202:03
corzaapokryphos: how do i get that?02:03
apokryphosPyre: tell corza ubuk3bmp302:03
Pyrecorza: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104402:03
dex1crimsun: Yep. Do I type "sudo apt-get update" [enter]  and "apt-get dist-upgrade" [enter]  in the root terminal now?02:03
[nrx_] crimsun, done02:03
crimsundex1: yes02:03
crimsun[nrx_] : and?02:03
corzai done that02:03
corzait didnt work02:03
Bazziin root terminal you dont need sudo o_O02:04
UnbuntuBabycrimsun: im opting for formatting my hard drive instead, much easier seeing as i have no data of any worth, but im gonna choose to nuke my hard drive with the option of having a seperate home partition. Is this advisable??02:04
dex1failed to fetch ... all of them it seems.02:04
[nrx_] still nothing02:04
dex1@@~@$$02:04
[nrx_] crimsun, ^^02:04
apokryphosUnbuntuBaby: Yes, definitely.02:04
crimsun[nrx_] : are all the volumes up?02:04
Dalkusdex1, check out ubuntuguide.org02:04
[nrx_] crimsun, yes02:04
crimsun[nrx_] : at max?02:04
apokryphosUnbuntuBaby: Three partitions essentially; one for /, one for /home, and one for SWAP.02:04
UnbuntuBabyi.e. could I the nuke my Unix system drive later on, then reinstall and specify any home directories yeah?02:05
crimsun[nrx_] : and your headphones/speakers are plugged in the correct jack?02:05
UnbuntuBabycool, thanks apokryphos :)02:05
dex1The modem is plugged into the phone socket but it obviously isn't dialling out. Not that I'd want to it to make overseas calls. Humph.02:05
apokryphosUnbuntuBaby: Yes, but you'll have to make the partitions first.02:05
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corzaapokryphos: i done that and it didnt work02:05
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[nrx_] crimsun, laptop, remember02:05
wfxcu later (~5sec.)02:05
[nrx_] crimsun, i have sound02:05
apokryphoscorza: are you sure? You correctly installed the file there? I haven't tried it myself, but practically everyone there has reported success...02:06
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crimsun[nrx_] : meaning it works?02:06
[nrx_] yes02:06
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crimsun[nrx_] : great.02:06
gilleshi02:07
UnbuntuBabyone sec, im gonna log out, forom now on im gonna have a shorter nick , mmkay?02:07
apokryphosAlright.02:07
dex1Dalkus: I've looked at that previously. I looked again just now, but it doesn't shed any more light. It says use apt-get but - that I can see - doesn't mention anything about what to do when the computer doesn't seem to be dialling out and hence failing02:07
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dexemHi! I'm having troubles with nautilus 2.10 (hoary). I have some nautilus scripts, but environment variables are not correctly set up by nautilus. NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_URIS is correct, but NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS is blank.... any idea about what could be happening?02:07
Dalkusdex1, what package are you trying to get? Have you enabled the universe and restricted repositories?02:08
[nrx_] crimsun, will all these settings still be in place when i reboot?02:08
gillesis there one command in gedit that allow to delete the current line ?02:08
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crimsun[nrx_] : what happened so you could play sounds?02:08
dex1Dalkus: crimsun told me to uncomment the two warty security ones at the bottom of the sources.list file.02:08
[nrx_] crimsun, i turned the volumes up to max02:08
DalkusAlso uncomment the universe and restricted lines02:08
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crimsun[nrx_] : argh.  You should have tried that first!  ;)02:09
jw_ma_kehey02:09
Dalkus(I think uncomment everything). Take another look at ubuntuguide.org - it tells you how to do that02:09
[nrx_] crimsun, yeah.. my bad :(02:09
Dalkusthen try sudo apt-get install02:09
dex1I'll uncomment all the URL ones ?02:09
sartekI'm trying to install ubuntu at a friend's, but he has this weird pc made by his uncle where the HDD's are connected by some weird method. And his dad doesn't let us open up the pc to check. Anyway, during installation it gives the following problems: during partitioning it recognises the HDD and calls it sda for some reason (as far as I know, only my usb-HDD is called sda, all others hd.something). And then it crashes on installing the grub w02:09
sartekhile the grub is trying to find hd0 or something. I also tried marking a partition as bootable (or something like that :p) in order to make the grub install on the partition. It still tried to install on hd0 and crashed (at 50%). Any suggestions?02:09
[nrx_] crimsun, however, does this mean that i should be able to play sounds in gnome with music player, etc?02:09
crimsun[nrx_] : yes, please test02:09
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apokryphosgilles: I don't think so; I tend to just keep Ctrl down while moving left/right with Shift.02:10
[nrx_] crimsun, well, trying to load volume control comes back with the same error as before02:10
dex1Daxus: Done. Trying sudo apt-get insyall now.02:10
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Dalkus:)02:10
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jc-dentonare there mono packages for "hoary"02:10
crimsun[nrx_] : what error?02:10
apokryphosgilles: though, of course, for deleting the whole line, using home/end comes in more handy.02:10
crimsunjc-denton: yes, they're in universe.02:11
WeirdAlis there a way of loading the add/remove programs dialogue in wine?02:11
jc-dentoncrimsun: where?02:11
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DalkusMrph, Xmms has crashed and is now a zombie (kill -9 xmms does nothing) restarting X dosn't fix this... what can i do without restarting my system?02:11
dex1Couldn't stat source package list several times ... you may want to run apt-get update to correct this problem (which was troed above. :((02:11
[nrx_] crimsun, "Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found"02:11
crimsun[nrx_] : have you logged out and back in yet?02:11
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jc-dentoncrimsun: how do i install them?02:12
Dalkusdex1, what exactly are you trying to do?02:12
jc-dentoni dont find them with apt-cache02:12
crimsun[nrx_] : remember your user didn't have permission to access those devices until you added them, and for that to take effect, you have to log out and back in02:12
jw_ma_keare there any remote shutdown programs for ubuntu that can be used to shut down the machine from a windows computer on the same network?02:12
St0n3-C0lDalkus: see If there's any other process running xmms02:12
DalkusHeh, those are zombies too02:13
crimsun[nrx_] : in Preferences>Multimedia Systems Selector, is Default Audio Sink set to esd?02:13
crimsunjc-denton: sudo apt-get install mono02:13
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[nrx_] crimsun, where are you getting that menu from?02:14
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crimsun[nrx_] : System menu02:14
jc-dentoncrimsun: universe is just unsupported?02:14
black_nightmareany of you know a bit about vnc?02:14
apokryphosjc-denton: Officially, yes.02:15
crimsunjc-denton: packages in universe are unsupported, yes02:15
[nrx_] crimsun, I uh.. don't have that?02:15
jc-dentonbut not more unstable?02:15
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crimsun[nrx_] : what three menus do you have?02:15
WeirdAl[nrx_] , are you on warty? Also, why are you here twice?02:15
crimsun(I'm not in front of a Warty machine)02:15
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apokryphosjc-denton: it depends. I haven't had any problems with any of the packages in Universe; only ever had broken dependencies a few times.02:16
WeirdAlwarty has apps and computer02:16
[nrx_] crimsun, "Applications" "Computer"02:16
crimsunComputer>Preferences>Multimedia ...02:16
alterimcan someone tell me what is the best wireless router for use with linux?02:16
jc-dentonso a bit more broken..02:16
[nrx_] crimsun, lol.. don't have that either02:16
jc-dentonlike debian unstable?02:16
crimsun[nrx_] : what's in Computer?02:17
black_nightmareI was wondering if there's anything for ubuntu that is like a vnc viewer that watches for a particular vnc server to come on?  (likewise in windows day with realvnc I would start up realvnc-viewer in waiting mode on my computer then start up the remote computer and as soon as it had loaded mine computer immedately starts a session02:17
[nrx_] crimsun, desktop preferences and system configuration02:17
apokryphosjc-denton: Not sure what that's like. If the dependencies are broken, you'll know before you've downloaded.02:17
black_nightmarenot so sure how to actually explain it but hope that helps ^02:17
dex1Dalkus: Well... the twofold problems were display related.  Support for my chipset was removed in v4 of XFree86. Apparently. So we set it as vesa. Then when the GUI started up a dialog displayed: 'error activating XKB configuration, probably X server problem'.  the lspci -v went up onto pastebin but the sources list and other file I forget I couldn't even get onto the floppy (from the ubuntu pc) to display online. Floppies wouln't mount. Hmm. Crimsun could 02:17
crimsun[nrx_] : System Configuration02:17
javioloHi02:17
apokryphosjc-denton: Like I said, this is a *very* rare occurence.02:17
Mitariohm, does anyone know what  Failed to acquire org.bluez.PinAgent service: Connection ":1.19" is not allowed to own the service "org.bluez.PinAgent" due to security policies in the configuration file02:17
Mitario means?02:17
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[nrx_] crimsun, under system configuration, there's no options for multimedia or anything like that02:17
Mitarioi'm trying to start bluez-pin02:17
falcon3got some probs installing msttcorefonts02:17
falcon3The following packages have unmet dependencies:02:17
falcon3  msttcorefonts: Depends: cabextract (>= 0.1-2) but it is not installableE: Broken packages02:17
javioloMilitario do you use BLuez ?02:18
jc-dentonapokryphos: k02:18
crimsunfalcon3: both multiverse and universe repos need to be enabled02:18
dex1Dalkus: Did that make sense?02:18
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Mitariojaviolo, yes02:18
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[nrx_] crimsun, i have "Device Manager, Login Screen Setup, Networking, printing, screen resolution, synaptic, time, users"02:18
Dalkusdex1, hmm sorry,  your problem seems out of my reach - i know little of that area :) paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in a private message to me02:18
Ubabeback :)02:19
crimsun[nrx_] : and Desktop Preferences?02:19
javiolocan you help me? Im having problems with it02:19
falcon3crimsun: i added a multiverse thingy02:19
Mitariojaviolo, yeah, me too :p02:19
crimsunfalcon3: did you add universe, too?02:19
dex1Also it was to be a dual boot system but it destroyed the Windows partition so in the end I reinstalled anew.02:19
[nrx_] crimsun, there is a "sound" applet02:19
Ubabeanyone have any clue about Installing Ubuntu on a PowerPC machine?02:19
falcon3crimsun: isnt that standard? :x02:19
crimsunfalcon3: no02:19
crimsunfalcon3: main restricted  <-- standard02:19
Ubabeim being prompted on which Kernel to install02:19
[nrx_] crimsun, with options "Enable sound server at startup" and "enable system bell"02:19
dex1Dalkus: I'll type it out by hand, since I can't get the floppy to work :/ (there're two PCs, this one is online and the Ubuntu one isn't).02:20
black_nightmareubabe ~ I dunno if this is a good morning to ask at all....I've asked many questions to no answer as well anyhow ;)02:20
crimsun[nrx_] : ok, open a Terminal and execute gstreamer-properties02:20
Dalkusdex1, waiiit. You need an internet connection to use apt-get....02:20
Ubabethanks anyway black_nightmare :)02:20
javioloMilitario Cant work rfcomm02:20
apokryphosfalcon3: I just installed it fine here, so either you have a different sources.list, you haven't updated, or there's something else blocking it on your system.02:20
apokryphosfalcon3: you're on Hoary, right?02:20
crimsunfalcon3: enable universe, refresh, then install msttcorefonts02:20
[nrx_] crimsun, okay.. menu's up02:21
crimsun[nrx_] : what's the setting for Audio Sink?02:21
[nrx_] crimsun, esdlink02:21
[nrx_] or esdsink, even02:21
crimsun[nrx_] : what happens when you click Test?02:21
[nrx_] crimsun, i get a really annoying noise ;p02:21
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crimsun[nrx_] : good.  That's what's supposed to happen.02:22
falcon3apokryphos: can u dcc me your sources.list?02:22
dex1Dalkus: Mmm, but it (the other PC) has an internal modem and that's plugged into the phone point. I tried on the first install (didn't get as far as a GUI]  with plugging the DSL USB modem into it from this new machine too but it didn't seem to detect anything. Nor did it suggest I enter any tel # at any point02:22
apokryphosfalcon3: www.youmortals.com/stuff/ubuntu/sources.list02:22
[nrx_] crimsun, so, just a log out and back in again and all should be well?02:22
crimsun[nrx_] : ok, sound's working.  Not sure why Volume Control is not cooperating, but I really need some rest.  Sorry.02:22
apokryphosfalcon3: note that mine are for Hoary, though. You on Hoary?02:22
[nrx_] crimsun, that's okay.. thank you very much for all your help.. it's much appreciated02:22
falcon3hoary preview02:22
Dalkusdex1, hrmh I have no experience in that area, keep asking around about that. Thats your problem. You need an internet connection to use apt02:23
dex1ok02:23
funkycrimsun is a great person =)02:23
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jc-dentonby the way i think that the new ubuntu preview is the first distro that recognized most hardware of my laptop properly02:23
falcon3apokryphos: got hoary preview02:23
DalkusSorry :)02:23
jc-dentonscreen resolution, touchpad, wlan02:23
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black_nightmarejc-denton...nice :p  [wish I could really say that for myself but then....still its no big pain anyhow] 02:23
[nrx_] time to test stuff :02:23
[nrx_] :)02:23
black_nightmarejust wondering but.....how difficult is it to download a program as a source tarball? [hoary preview] 02:25
black_nightmarethere's one I would like and its not even on the synoptic at all so ;)02:25
falcon3apokryphos: i got hoary yes, send it over ;)02:26
Dalkusblack_nightmare, its confusing if your not used to it... but its something you'll need to learn how to do :)02:26
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apokryphosfalcon3: erm.. I did. Look up ^^02:26
Dalkusat first, it's sort of hit and miss.... but if you learn about it you'll be confident in no time02:26
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black_nightmaredalkus -- lol so in a word: not easy for first timers??02:26
DalkusDefinatly02:26
DalkusTry it out, nothing bad can happen :)02:26
falcon3apokryphos: havent seen any dcc stuff02:26
black_nightmareughh.....well this program does have an alternative linux download but its rpm :|02:27
Dalkussource downloads normally come with a INSTALL or README file. Its a very good idea to read both if they are there (cat INSTALL or cat README)02:27
black_nightmareonly option is the source tarball it seem02:27
apokryphosfalcon3: I gave you the link ;)02:27
apokryphosfalcon3: www.youmortals.com/stuff/ubuntu/sources.list02:27
Dalkustry it out, black_nightmare02:27
falcon3:)02:27
falcon3thx02:27
black_nightmaredalkus...ok if I download this to the desktop...how do I open a *.tar.gz file?02:27
Dalkusopen a terminal, go to your desktop folder02:27
Dalkusthen i suggest moving it to a better folder... like /home/your-username02:28
jw_ma_keare there any remote shutdown programs for ubuntu that can be used to shut down the machine from a windows computer on the same network?02:28
black_nightmareone second let me download the tarball now :)02:28
alterimhey whats the difference between debian and rpm?02:28
jw_ma_kecould i use jslaunch to do that?02:28
Dalkusthen do "tar xvzf filename" replace filename with the file02:28
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Dalkusthen it'll extract all the files for you02:28
black_nightmarehow do I go to my desktop in terminal???02:29
black_nightmare:p02:29
rem..?02:30
Dalkusapplications>system tools>terminal02:30
Dalkus(top left corner of your screen)02:30
black_nightmareno lol read the question above again :)02:30
rem"/home/user/.desktop" ..?02:30
jw_ma_kedoesnt he mean 'cd /home/user/Desktop'?02:30
black_nightmarehm ty rem..let me see if that works02:30
Dalkusnonono02:30
Dalkuscd Desktop02:30
Dalkusblack_nightmare, you *really* need to learn some linux commands02:30
black_nightmareoh ok ty dalkus..got it now02:31
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Dalkusthen i suggest you do "mv file ../"02:31
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Dalkusthen do cd..02:31
rem..its Desktop02:31
jw_ma_keis it possible to be able to connect to a ubuntu machine via VNC without logging in on the Ubuntu computer?02:31
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remk02:31
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black_nightmarewhats 'mv' for?02:31
scizzoblack_nightmare: mv == move02:31
Dalkusblack_nightmare, yeah - its a process everybody that migrates to linux finds hard, but you need to learn how to use the terminal02:31
Dalkusortherwise you'll be lost :)02:32
Dalkusill find you a guide if you like?02:32
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Dalkusmv means move file02:32
djphi all. anyone have any idea why i receive the following error message when i run vrms? ERROR- Badly formed dpkg-status entry #355! pkg=[emacsen-common] , pkgstatus=[install ok installed] , section=[] ?02:32
Dalkusyou *really* need to know the basics... seriously.02:32
scizzoblack_nightmare: if you are looking for help with a certain command...do either: cmd --help or man cmd02:32
scizzoblack_nightmare: where cmd is the command you want info about02:32
black_nightmarelol..well nah I downloaded the linux help documentions from synoptic before [was looking at the list of documents to download anyhow]  ... I'll have to figure giving it a read some day02:32
jw_ma_keis it possible to be able to connect to a ubuntu machine via VNC without logging in on the Ubuntu computer?02:32
Dalkusblack_nightmare, check this site out: http://www.linux-tutorial.info/02:33
Dalkusthat tought me the basics back when I started using linux02:33
scizzoblack_nightmare: also...you can use: info cmd or whatis mv02:33
Dalkusread a few pages a day and you'll know what your doing in no time02:33
scizzoblack_nightmare: GAH I mean cmd... :P02:33
Dreamer3_man menus seem faster in glib2.602:33
black_nightmaredalkus mileage varies with different people thou :p02:33
DalkusYep, to be honest i never finished reading it02:33
rem..is it possible to get user/pass to a webmail from squid log02:33
rem?02:33
Dalkusheh02:33
Dalkusgo at your own page02:33
Dalkusgotta go02:33
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jw_ma_keis it possible to be able to connect to a ubuntu machine via VNC without logging in on the Ubuntu computer?02:34
Dreamer3_rem: no, why would you want to do that?02:34
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black_nightmarescizzo....I sometimes have problem with knowing when to or not to use various shorthanded commands... likewise I try do 'cls' in dos that of course errors out to me...lol02:34
remlost a password...its saved though..i tried ethereal, but it didnt show up ..02:34
djpanyone here run vrms?02:34
black_nightmarehave to use 'clear'02:34
black_nightmare:p02:34
Dreamer3_rem: don't lose your passwords02:35
remlol02:35
remhmm..ill think abozut that one ..02:35
remthanx for your valuable help ..02:35
rem:D02:35
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scizzoblack_nightmare: cls is a short command actually...in bash it is clear...02:35
jw_ma_keis it possible to be able to connect to a ubuntu machine via VNC without logging in on the Ubuntu computer?02:35
scizzoblack_nightmare: cls if I am not incorrect means clear screen or something02:35
black_nightmarescizzo..well yeah but dos doesn't understand both shorthand and normal at same time for some commands02:36
scizzoblack_nightmare: do the following once....: cl and then press tab02:36
black_nightmarelikewise it understands 'clear' but not 'cls' duh02:36
scizzoblack_nightmare: if you don't get a result the first tab try tabbing again02:36
scizzoblack_nightmare: you can create alias...but why not use Ctrl+L instead?02:36
scizzo:)02:36
jw_ma_kecan people actually hear me at all??02:37
ubuntoidjw_ma_ke:  Aye02:37
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jw_ma_kelol02:38
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djpvrms reports the following error when i run it, ERROR- Badly formed dpkg-status entry #355! pkg=[emacsen-common] , pkgstatus=[install ok installed] , section=[] . It appears to be working fine as I receive the following message after the error, No non-free packages installed on pingu!  rms would be proud.02:38
jw_ma_keis it possilbe to VNC into a ubuntu machine without having already logged onto it, allowing you to log in via the VNC session?02:38
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Dreamer3_jw_ma_ke: sure, if you set it up that way02:40
Jimbobjw_ma_ke: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/xvnc.1.html02:41
black_nightmarescizzo think you could explain this to me in a bit of plain english..........02:41
jw_ma_kethanks, ill take a look02:41
black_nightmareYou need X11R6 and a "make" utility with the VPATH feature (e.g. GNU make).02:41
black_nightmare  For serial, ethernet and audio support, you need pthreads. To use the GUI02:41
black_nightmare  preferences editor, you also need GTK+ version 1.2 or better. On Linux, you02:41
black_nightmare  need glibc 2.0 or better.02:41
black_nightmareops....damn..stupid line breaks02:41
black_nightmareI know that I have GTK+ and its purpose but..the rest is a tad clueless to me02:42
Dreamer3_black_nightmare: what are you trying to build?02:42
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Dreamer3_black_nightmare: if it's worth using there is prolly a debian package already built :)02:42
black_nightmaredreamer... well...I don't even see it at all in synoptic so....02:42
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black_nightmareits BasilikII anyhow..I already downloaded the source tarball and reading the install text file now02:43
dex1Q) Is Fedora (the other distro on the cover CD I had) likely to have better hardware support than Ubuntu ?02:43
Dreamer3_dex1: dunno, it's the same kernel... what hardware are we talking?02:43
syn-ackdex1: It really doesnt matter02:43
wfxi know on the ubuntu website is a page with developer information (glib-gettext = package xy) but i cant remeber/find it.02:44
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Ubabeis apokryphos int eh house?02:45
dex1The one I'm trying to install it on is an older PC. So, Presario 4506, S3 Trio gfx card, 48megs memr'y, massive 4gb hd [woo ;)] . The gfx card for one wouldn't work. it doesn't seem to take any notice of the internal modem so apt-get is no use. etc02:45
Ubabeie. is you about?02:45
djpanyone else here maintaining a completely 'free software' ubuntu install?02:45
wfxogra, hi, is a long time ago as i see you ;-)02:45
black_nightmarebrb for a minute sorry02:45
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shmoolikppl have u seen the new Adobe Acrobat reader?02:46
shmoolikits kick ass02:46
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djpanyone else here maintaining a completely 'free software' ubuntu install?02:47
dex1I mean, don't get me wrong; although new to Linux I like to think of myself as vaguely sentient. Some HTML/XML skills, fairly in-depth knowledge of PC internals, worked in software testing for software development companies etc. But my Ubuntu experience has been going on 2 days, I've been at it all night and... no offence meant if there are any devs here but it's the most harrowing experience one could undertake. For me at least. :D02:47
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djpdex1: what problems?02:48
nichi. I've a problem with my digital cam. When I plug it in, its detected and automounted, but it's read only, so I can't manage my pictures. I've no idea how to configure that.02:49
WeirdAlSomeone help with my partitions? I'll explain :02:49
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WeirdAlI resized my NTFS partition and moved my swap partition across so that it's on the end of that. Now I have my NTFS and swap in an extended partition, somehow, and then some free space and my root partition.02:50
dex1djp: Initially, it destroyed the win partition so dual-boot idea was scrapped :) and I just installed Ubuntu then I got unsupported s3 cards, seemingly unmountable drives, undetected modems, Xserver errors of vague description...02:50
WeirdAlI want my root partition to fill the free space, but I can't seem to move it.02:50
nicI've to add a line in fstab ? or is there another way to configure it ? its gnome-volume-manage I believe02:50
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wfxwhere do i find "glib-gettext"02:51
black_nightmareback02:51
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[nrx_] is mp3 support not native?02:52
Amaranth[nrx] : mp3 support isn't legal so it's not included by default02:53
dex1djp: Apart from that my experience has been singularly delightful. ;)02:53
nic[nrx] , not native ?02:53
WeirdAlNot legal? No way.02:53
Amaranth[nrx_] : iirc it's in universe, enable that and apt-get install gstreamer-mad02:53
nicit isnt free02:53
AmaranthWeirdAl: Not legal. Patent issues.02:53
Ubabeim doing a reinstall of my LinuxPPC Ubuntu system, with 3 different partitions02:53
WeirdAlPatents suck :-(02:53
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WeirdAlDoes that mean wine isn't legal either?02:53
[nrx_] Amaranth, how do i do that?02:53
AmaranthWINE isn't covered by any patents, afaik02:54
AmaranthAnd you can't copyright an API.02:54
WeirdAlAh.02:54
Ubabe...if the / partition decides to screw up again (of if i screw it up) either way what do I do to get a new system to point to my old /home partitions?02:54
black_nightmareanyone know where to find pthreads?  I only could find kaffe-pthreads on synoptic so far02:55
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Amaranthblack_nightmare: err, what did you need it for?02:55
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WeirdAlAnyone know how I can stretch my root partition to the left?02:55
jw_ma_keso... i just tried what was suggested on the link http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/xvnc.1.html02:56
jw_ma_kebut it still will not let me connect with realVNC - connection refused02:56
jw_ma_ke!02:56
djangohey ya all, what kernel does ubuntu use by default?02:56
LeeJunFanUbabe: during setup just name your partition and mountpoint.02:56
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black_nightmareamaranth....seem that this emulator needs pthreads for ethernet support02:56
djpanyone else here maintaining a completely 'free software' ubuntu install?02:56
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black_nightmareemulator program that is02:56
djangohey ya all, what kernel does ubuntu use by default?02:56
black_nightmaremjr..can I say something that would surprise you a LOT more?02:56
LeeJunFanUbabe: I have 2 ubuntu installs (amd64 and i386) both use the same /home partition.02:57
black_nightmaremjr hm?02:57
jw_ma_kesorry, i cant remember who suggested the http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/xvnc.1.html link...who was it?02:57
mjrblack_nightmare, shoot02:57
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Chandhi02:58
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UbabeLeeJuanFan: but say if one of those 2 root partitions decides to fart and die, like mine did02:58
mjrblack_nightmare, by the way, pthreads are part of libc02:58
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Ubabe...how do i get a new reinstalled root partition to point back to the previous /home partitions?02:58
black_nightmaremjr .. well in europe someone is trying to get a stupid patent law...says that even someone can patent "left mouse click" and so on02:58
black_nightmareits all BULLsh*t02:58
black_nightmarehope it does not pass at all02:59
Amaranth[nrx_] : sorry for the late response, look at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:59
WeirdAlYeah, we're on the way to major suckiness soon.02:59
WeirdAlUnless it gets blocked.02:59
black_nightmaremjr..oh ok so if I have libc I should have pthreads then?02:59
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mjrblack_nightmare, well, not quite that bad but almost, and I know, I live here02:59
jw_ma_keanyone able to help?02:59
mjrblack_nightmare, yes02:59
black_nightmarety..let me check for libc.....02:59
mjrof course, you want the dev package too, should come with build-essential02:59
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wfxplease where do i find "lib-gettext" ?03:01
DrGonzo_iXihow do i set up PPPoE????????????????????????????????03:01
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black_nightmareI got libc6 and libc6-dev and libc6-i68603:01
black_nightmareso that means pthread is loaded for sure?03:01
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javioloanyone use bluez ?03:02
black_nightmaremjr...ok here's another one..text file says I need X11R6 ....a search for 'X11' on synaptic and it seem that I already have libx11-6 ... would that be it or not quite?03:03
ruffianJust a quick question: My apt-get isn't asking for confirmation anymore, when i do apt-get Install name03:03
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theinetype /msg NickServ IDENTIFY edleff03:03
WeirdAl:-D03:03
WeirdAlYou might want to change your password now03:04
theinedamn03:04
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Curaltonruffian: it asks if more than the package you specified has to be installed, when just the one package is there it will proceed03:04
ruffianCuralton: I see. Thank you03:04
cuscoThe following packages have unmet dependencies:03:04
cusco  race: Depends: race-data (>= 0.7.0-5) but it is not installable03:04
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wfxcusco, maybe an apt-get update helps (i have 0.7.0-10)03:06
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cuscowfx: it doesn't help03:07
cuscowell03:07
cuscoI did apt-get update03:07
cuscoseveral times already03:07
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cusco:|03:07
BaptisteGood afternoon03:07
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BaptisteI need some help (I'm French)03:08
cuscoshoot03:08
BaptisteI don't succeed to install ubuntu hoary03:08
Baptiste:-D03:08
BaptisteWhe the installation of the base-system begins03:09
ruffianwhat was the error message?03:09
BaptisteWhen03:09
Baptisteit is03:09
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Baptistethe installators has not succeeded to install ubunu-base03:09
Baptisteubuntu-base03:09
ruffiandid you check the iso?03:10
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Baptisteyes03:10
ruffianhow did you check it/?03:10
Baptistei checked it two times and it seems correct03:10
Baptistehowever03:10
wfxcusco, do you have any www link for this game03:10
ruffian?03:10
Baptistewhen the cd checks the cd03:10
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Baptistehe indicates me that the iso is not correct03:11
ruffianThen you have a problem03:11
Baptisteyes03:11
BaptisteI am downloading it another time03:11
Baptisteit is the third time I download the iso03:11
ruffianyep and after you download it, check the iso before you burn it03:11
Baptisteyes03:12
Baptisteok03:12
ruffianare you running windows now?03:12
Baptisteyes03:12
ruffianhang on i will give you the site03:12
wfxcusco, i found some package at ftp://sliepen.warande.net/pub/race/03:12
Baptisteok03:12
LeeJunFanUbabe: you still there?03:12
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Baptistehum03:13
Baptisteruffian03:13
ruffianBaptiste: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html - Do exactly what it tells you...but for the ubuntu iso03:13
Baptisteok03:13
Baptistethanks03:13
ruffianafter you do that, it would show you a serial of number03:13
Baptisteis it possible to chose the video card that will be used by ubuntu?03:13
Baptisteok03:13
Baptisteyes03:13
BaptisteI will have to compare this03:14
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ruffianmake sure you check it against the MD5SUMS file, where you download it from03:14
Baptisteok03:14
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Baptistethank you03:14
ruffianBaptiste: You can choose the videocard after the installation03:14
Baptisteok03:14
ruffianBaptiste: Hang on i will find you the site03:14
BaptisteI can't03:15
cukhello, i have quite a weird problem, i use a real crappy wireless cdma modem, i boot into ubuntu, run pppd, nothing happens, the log says, "connct script failed", then i reboot into windose, connect, disconnect, reboot into linux, and pppd works...03:15
BaptisteI'm dowloading the iso03:15
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thingycuk, sounds like your modem needs to get initialised and windows is managing to do it but linux isnt03:15
wfxcusco, i have install it and the game works with hoary (maybe this is youre prob)03:15
ruffianBaptiste: The tells you how to install your video card - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto03:15
ruffianJust do it after the installation03:16
thingycuk, did you google around for "linux your_modem" ?03:16
Baptisteok03:16
Baptistewiyh03:16
Baptistewith03:16
cuksure thing03:16
cukbut nothing came up03:16
Baptistedpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:16
thingycuk, ok priv. msg me your modem details03:16
ruffianyep03:16
Baptistetanks for all!03:16
wfxim need lib-gettext.... snif and i cant find the website with the info wich package it have03:16
thingycuk, I'll have a peek at the problem03:16
cuki only found some people who have the same problem but no solution03:16
ruffianBaptiste: No worries03:16
cukgtran cdma modem03:16
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Baptistehum03:17
dockaneinstalled ubuntu from dvd on a ibm thinkpad t21. the only resolution i can choose in gnome is 640x480. i did a reconfigure for xorg and tried to add all resolutions i need to xorg.conf but still only 640x480. my laptop works fine with live distributions like knoppix . any idea ?03:17
BaptisteI know that it's possible to download ooo 2 with apt03:17
cuk:/home/martin # lsusb03:17
cukBus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:000003:17
cukBus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:000003:17
cukBus 002 Device 003: ID 05c6:3196 Qualcomm, Inc. CDMA Wireless Modem03:17
cukBus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000003:17
cukBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000003:17
thingydont flood please03:18
cuksorry03:18
Baptistewhen I did this I saw that there did not exist any french language file03:18
ruffianBaptiste: What ooo?03:18
thingyi said priv. msg me...then you can flood03:18
BaptisteOpen Office org03:18
Baptiste:-D03:18
jw_ma_keis there anyway of automatically running an sh script in ubuntu from a windows machine?03:19
ruffianBaptiste: Openoffice.org should be installed during the installation03:19
Baptisteok03:19
ruffianBaptiste: But you will have to update it ofcourse with apt-ge t:)03:19
Baptisteok thanks03:19
jw_ma_kedoes anyone know if thats possible?03:20
jw_ma_kewhat i really want to do is shutdown the ubuntu machine from my windows desktop automatically03:20
Chipzzdockane: you're using the wrong x driver03:20
ruffianBaptiste: No worries03:20
LeeJunFanwhere do mplayer codecs get installed? Been a while (/usr/lib/win32?)03:20
Chipzzdockane: or, your screen's hsync and vsync are wrong03:21
BaptisteI think so03:21
Baptistein /usr/lib03:21
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Baptisteor /usr/share03:21
ruffianjw_ma_ke: Can't you login remotely, and do shutdown?03:21
Baptisteunder mandrake it is installed in /usr/lib/03:21
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jw_ma_kei could do, but i want it to be automated03:22
BaptisteI've to go.03:22
BaptisteThank youy for all!03:22
jw_ma_keas it needs shutting down once a backup has completed03:22
BaptisteGood bye!03:22
ChipzzBaptiste: /usr/share/ dosn't make sense according to the fhs03:22
Baptisteok03:22
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ruffianJw_ma_ke: I am not good with sh, sorry03:22
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Pizbitmplayer doesn't install any codecs itself does it? I thought it just used existing codecs, unless of course by mplayer you mean the w32codecs package...03:23
jw_ma_keruffian: can you think of any other way of doing it?03:23
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jw_ma_keor where would be a good place to look re. remote execution of sh?03:23
Pizbitjw_ma_ke: Put at the end of the backup script the shutdown command?03:23
theine/usr/lib/win3203:23
ruffianjw_ma_ke: google?03:23
jw_ma_kehahaha already tried03:24
dockaneChipzz, this sync problem sounds interestin. i think i should try this first. where do i change that ? i found it with google for x86config but not for xorg03:24
jw_ma_kepizbit: the backup script is run from windows - rsync daemon runs on ubuntu03:24
jw_ma_kepizbit: would there be anyway of appending a shut down command within the rsync daemon??03:24
theinejw_ma_ke: write a batch script that logs onto the ubuntu machine via ssh and issues the shutdown command03:25
jw_ma_ketheine: how would i go about doing that?03:25
djpfor anybody interested the problem i have been having with vrms reporting an error with regards emacsen-common, it can be resolved by editing /var/lib/dpkg/status. find the entry for emacsen-common, add a Section entry with the value editors and a Priority section with the value optional. vrms will now not give an error message!03:25
Chipzzdockane: check your HorizSync and VertRefresh in /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:25
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dockaneChipzz, already looked into it, there is no entry like this03:25
Chipzzdockane: but reading the X log in /var/log will help you more I guess03:25
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theinejw_ma_ke: go to http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html03:26
theinejw_ma_ke: you can do that with Plink I think03:26
dockaneChipzz, i just added the both lines but after that i had to recover my xorg.conf03:27
jw_ma_ketheine: what is Plink?03:27
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theinejw_ma_ke: ever heard of putty?03:27
theinejw_ma_ke: ever used ssh?03:27
jw_ma_kei have heard of it but am pretty new to linux and ubuntu! never used ssh03:27
Chipzzdockane: you should read the man page for the exact syntax03:28
jw_ma_keah plink looks hopegul03:28
jw_ma_ke*hopeful03:28
theinejw_ma_ke: well, i think you should do some reading about ssh03:28
jw_ma_keok, thanks will do03:28
Chipzzdockane: but please DO check /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:28
Chipzzthat will help you more03:28
theinejw_ma_ke: But in the end you will be able to do it with Plink...03:28
black_nightmareany of you know if libx11-dev would be worthy downloading in case? (I already got libx11-603:29
theinejw_ma_ke: I'm fairly sure03:29
dockaneaction check var/log/Xorg.0.log03:29
black_nightmarejust wondering03:29
jw_ma_keby default is a ssh daemon already running in ubuntu?03:29
Chipzzjw_ma_ke: no03:29
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jw_ma_kechipzz: is it already within init.d?03:30
KarlosIIjw_ma_ke, I hope not03:30
Chipzzjw_ma_ke: it isn't even installed by default03:30
theinejw_ma_ke: sudo apt-get install ssh03:30
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Chipzztheine: that wont help03:30
theineChipzz: why not?03:30
Chipzzbecause, unlike in debian, the client and the server are 2 seperate packages03:31
jw_ma_kei had actually already installed it, so thats already there03:31
theineChipzz: yes, but the ssh package depends on both of them03:31
PizbitChipzz: Why does it say "Description: Secure shell client and server (transitional package).." then?:)03:31
Chipzzonly the client is installed by default, and the server package is not called ssh03:31
jw_ma_keso in order to use plink, what do i need to setup on the Ubuntu machine?03:32
theineChipzz: ssh is a meta-package that depends on ssh-server03:32
PizbitDepends: openssh-client, openssh-server03:32
Chipzzwhat you really want is apt-get install openssh-server03:32
theineChipzz: dood... ssh will do it, no matter what YOU believe...03:32
Chipzzwhat do you need a transitional package for?03:32
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Chipzztransitional means just that, but whatever03:33
BaptisteI come back with a supposition03:33
PizbitChipzz: To act as a meta package to give you both?03:33
BaptisteI found this03:33
jw_ma_kedo i need to install putty on the Ubuntu machine or is that windows only?03:33
Baptistehttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753603:33
theinejw_ma_ke: that's windows only03:33
Baptisteabout my installation problem03:33
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PizbitChipzz: Since it depends on client/server, you got both installed when you install the ssh package03:33
theinejw_ma_ke: there might even be a linux version but you won't need that03:33
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jw_ma_keright, so how do i set up the ssh server?03:34
theinejw_ma_ke: sudo apt-get install ssh OR sudo apt-get install openssh-server03:34
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jw_ma_keyep, done that and its installed03:35
dockaneChipzz, checked the X.0.log and there a lot warnings about "h sync out of range" and "exceeds panel dimension". a "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" just displays the filecontent but no manpage03:35
jw_ma_keso sudo update-rc.d ?03:35
EddieXWhy dont i get a nvidia kernel module for my 2.6.8-5-k7 kernel ? Or can i just make a symbolic link?03:35
jw_ma_kewhat run levels should i do for ssh? just S?03:35
theinejw_me_ke: open up a terminal and type 'ssh localhost'03:36
dockaneChipzz, where do i force / setup h and v sync values ?03:36
jw_ma_ke"the authenticity of localhost cant be established"03:36
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Pizbitjw_ma_ke: Installing the ssh server sets it up for you, might want to tweak the config if you really want:)03:36
theinejw_me_ke: that's ok, type yes03:36
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jw_ma_keok thats done03:37
theinejw_me_ke: so the ssh-server seems to be workin03:37
jw_ma_keso now i should be able to just use plink?03:37
YomicWould anyone happen to know of a good linux themed wallpaper site? (With holiday themes too, preferably ;)03:38
theinejw_me_ke: first you should download putty.exe on your windows machine and try to log onto your ubuntu machine03:38
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YomicBtw: Happy Easter.03:38
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theinejw_me_ke: if that works, you can try auytomating the whole thing using Plink.exre03:38
airoxmain03:38
airoxmoin even ..03:38
narghrm... went from sid to hoary, and it worked fine, except I keep getting this error:03:39
PizbitYomic: kde-look.org gnome-look.org art.gnome.org (Don't know about holiday themes)03:39
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nargSetting up xfree86-common (6.8.2-5.1) ...03:39
nargupdate-rc.d: /etc/init.d/xfree86-common exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)03:39
nargdpkg: error processing xfree86-common (--configure):03:39
narg subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 103:39
nargdpkg: ../../main/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.03:39
nargAborted03:39
YomicThanks Pizbit ;)03:39
Pizbitnarg: Please don't spam us.03:39
nargis 4 lines really spam?03:39
PizbitLearn how to count too:P03:39
jw_ma_kewahey logged onto Ubuntu machine through plink03:39
nargpft, it was 4 lines in terminal.03:40
PizbitBut we're not looking at your terminal are we?:)03:40
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jw_ma_kewhat is the shutdown command through terminal?03:40
Pizbitwww.pastebin.com03:40
theinejw_me_ke: shutdown -h now03:40
Pizbitjw_ma_ke: shutdown -h now (man shutdown)03:40
jw_ma_kethanks03:40
Yomicreboot I think03:40
YomicSomething along those lines.03:40
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wfxin wihc package is glib-gettextize included03:41
PizbitYomic: Now now, rebooting isn't the same as shuting down:D03:41
Yomic;(03:41
PizbitKarlosII: What, someone asked a question? *grin*03:41
KarlosII...03:41
theinethere's also 'halt'...03:41
KarlosIIheh03:41
Yomicjw_ma_ke: Why not just shut-down from the GUI?03:42
jw_ma_keso will the ssh server automatically load up now on boot up?03:42
theineYomic: he want's to do it remotely03:42
jw_ma_keyomic: as it is an automated task03:42
PizbitYomic: Because he's accessing ubunti via ssh and setting up X forwarding or vnc is just absurd for what he wants.03:42
YomicAh.03:42
BaptisteGoodbye03:42
theinejw_me_ke: yes, it will03:42
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PizbitAlthough vnc has it's used03:42
KarlosIIPizbit, doesn't gnome have a remote desktop manager already?03:43
jw_ma_kei have just set up vnc properly now too - very useful03:43
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jw_ma_kein fact i am using vnc to do all this ont he ubuntu machine now03:43
YomicGoogle: linux shutdown terminal03:43
Yomic;)03:43
theinejw_me_ke: pretty cool03:43
PizbitKarlosII: Yeah, forgot about that, probably a half dozen other ways to get remote access to ubuntu with a gui:)03:43
KarlosIIlol wonder which is best03:44
YomicIsn't there also a tool/command to search the man pages too?03:44
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YomicMabey combined with grep?03:44
KarlosIIheh03:44
PizbitYomic: Within 'man blah' ? Hit '?"03:44
PizbitOr \ heh03:45
YomicI see. ;P03:45
PizbitEr, / *grumble*03:45
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PizbitKarlosII: I somehow wound up with a orange-chocolate easter eggs this year too :D03:45
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KarlosIIhahaha03:46
syamajalaanyone know where i can find the amd64 patches?03:46
Pizbitsyamajala: For...?:)03:46
syamajalaglib03:46
jw_ma_kethanks for all of your help!03:46
jw_ma_keim off03:46
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[nrx_] Amaranth?03:47
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Amaranth[nrx_] : ?03:47
Amaranth[nrx_] : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:47
PizbitKarlosII: The gnome remote desktop works well too, just got to remember to read the text beside the box that allows someone to control your desktop:)03:47
syamajala Pizbit i'm trying to port another distro to amd64 and the debian amd64 patches have been working so far but they don't seem to have many patches for things that need x03:47
hgoesmi have a problem with install external .deb packages! i cannot install with "dpkg -i packagenam.deb" can somebody help me?03:47
[nrx_] Amaranth, been trying to get the gtstreamer0.8-mad installed, but i've put the universe repository in and i still can't get it03:48
Pizbithgoesm: Are you root?03:48
KarlosIIPizbit, I don't know much about that one03:48
zenwhenWhats a good WYSIWYG html editor for linux?03:48
[nrx_] Amaranth, what's it actually called?03:48
Amaranth[nrx_] : Read that site.03:48
[nrx_] Amaranth, i have03:48
AmaranthThen I have no clue.03:48
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membreyazenrox: amaya03:48
Pizbit[nrx_] : What're you looking for?03:49
[nrx_] gtstreamer0.8-mad03:49
hgoesmi am root or sudo. both the same03:49
Pizbit[nrx_] : Ya mean gstreamer0.8-mad ?:)03:50
[nrx_] Pizbit, that's the one ;p03:50
PizbitIt's in universe03:50
hgoesmdo somebody use bitdefender antivirus under ubuntu?03:50
[nrx_] Pizbit, yes, and i've added that to my source.list.. but what am i actually looking for?03:51
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syn-ackAV on Linux, thats funny.03:51
Pizbit[nrx_] : Well, that package?:)03:51
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[nrx_] "E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad03:51
[nrx_] "03:51
Pizbit[nrx_] : Did you apt-get update ?:)_03:51
[nrx_] yes03:51
[nrx_] hold on03:51
[nrx_] wrong fucking box03:52
[nrx_] er03:52
[nrx_] language ;p03:52
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[nrx_] ;p03:52
PizbitNothing personal you have to understand.03:52
[nrx_] that's the first time i've sworn in ere so hush03:52
[nrx_] ;p03:52
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LeeJunFan[nrx] : haha - not just me! I like when I do an ifconfig eth0 down on a remote server thru ssh by accident :(03:53
[nrx_] LeeJunFan, yeah, something like that lol03:53
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PizbitNote, messaging me allows me to be a rude as I like. :P03:53
pwGentlefolk. Do I have a volunteer with lots of memory and a fast internet connection, running Hoary, to test something for me?03:53
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syn-ackpw: what do you consider a lot of RAM?03:54
pwI'm seeing huge memory leaks in gnome-panel every time I install/uninstall things.03:54
pwsyn-ack: ~1GB03:54
pwI've just made gnome-panel use 700MB.03:54
syn-ackI have 1.5 gig03:54
Pizbitlol03:54
ogulertrkce bilen varm.03:54
topylihow to show desktop icons for ftp servers?03:54
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pwSo, here's the test case: Open system monitor and point it at the gnome-panel process.03:54
Pizbitogra: Don't suppose you know english?03:54
LeeJunFanI thought gnome used LESS mem than KDE :)03:54
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pwWatch the memory usage as you install a large package, say, "kde".03:55
ograPizbit, why ?03:55
onkarshindeAnyone tried Skype on Ubuntu? How does it work? What libraries are needed?03:55
Pizbitogra: Wrong nick completion, my bad:)03:55
ograheh03:55
pwI installed, removed, installed, removed and purged KDE, and that alone sent the memory usage to 200MB.03:55
pwSo there's a bug somewhere.03:55
Pizbitonkarshinde: I just grabbed the static build and it worked:)03:55
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Pizbitoguler: Don't suppose you speak english?:)03:55
black_nightmareoguler...ogra = same two first letters :p03:56
pwBut before I file the bug I'd really like it if someone with an appropriate setup could run through what I did and see if they get the same result.03:56
[nrx_] "fork: could not allocate memory"03:56
onkarshindePizbit: Cool. Did you ever tried deb package?03:56
[nrx_] :o03:56
Pizbitblack_nightmare: Nope, they aren't, but they look similar:D03:56
pw[nrx_] : That's what alerted me to the fact that all my memory was gone.03:56
Pizbitoo03:56
Pizbitor maybe they are, doh, didn't notice them part03:56
[nrx_] my whole machine seems to go laggy as hell after a while03:56
Pizbitonkarshinde: Nah, I don't use it much due to skype being a PITA:)03:57
onkarshindePizbit: What is PITA?03:57
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Pizbitonkarshinde: Pain In The A, basically becuase I had to select the Mic input for voice, but I record stuff off tv that uses Line-In:)03:57
GuilmonSun might be showing to what looks like a formation of a backbone03:58
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Guilmonfirst they release solaris open source, next they change SCSL to another license03:58
black_nightmareany of you used 'GNU make' in here?03:58
GuilmonI wish they would release java open source :)03:58
onkarshindePizbit: Okay. But how was overall experience about audio quality, connectivity?03:58
Guilmonblack_nightmare: sorry, I don't use a make utility which sucks ;)03:58
PizbitOh, that was fine:)03:58
black_nightmareguilmon well - its not exactly full java but you should search for Kaffe for now..its opensource03:58
Guilmonblack_nightmare: kaffe is very incomplete03:59
black_nightmareguilmon...well I'm looking at a readme for source and it says I'll need Make03:59
black_nightmareI noticed gnu make on synaptic03:59
onkarshindePizbit: Anything better than Skype (and not a PITA;))?03:59
Guilmonblack_nightmare: ahhhh...03:59
Guilmonblack_nightmare: you usually just type make, but what is your question?03:59
Pizbitonkarshinde: Well, it was only a PITA because of needing to remember to toggle which device was set as the 'record' device:)03:59
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Pizbitonkarshinde: Else it's a lousy UI but it works.04:00
black_nightmareguilmon...not much..just was wondering if anyone had used it too or not...but guess thats a stupid question :p04:00
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ruffianHi, Is there a way to check for new hardware? I am trying to install my usb scanner04:00
black_nightmare*marks another download to make from synaptic*04:00
onkarshindePizbit: Thanks for info.04:00
Guilmonblack_nightmare: heh, everybody has used it04:01
black_nightmareok ok whatever04:01
black_nightmare:)04:01
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black_nightmareguilmon do you know about X11?04:03
aquariusThe dictionaries-common package contains /usr/share/dict/words, a symlink to /etc/dictionaries-common/words, but the latter file isn't there. Is there a word dictionary anywhere? packages.debian.org doesn't seem to contain /etc/dictionaries-common/words in any package.04:03
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Guilmonblack_nightmare: very much, yes..04:04
black_nightmarewell guilmon the source readme says I need X11R6 and when I check synaptic it says I already have libx11-6 .. that pretty much should be it?  (I noticed there's a libx11-dev but dunno if thats needed too?)04:05
Pizbitblack_nightmare: If you're compiling something from source and it depends on say blah, you will need to install the blah-dev package04:06
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KarlosIIoops04:06
Seveasaquarius, the words file is in the language packs04:06
KarlosIICPU[AMD Athlon XP 2500+ clocked at 1830.268 Mhz]   Kernel[Linux 2.6.10-5-k7 i686]   Up[-1day-]   Mem[-832.402/1012.12MB-]   HDD[-142GB(24%used)-]   Procs[-99-]   Client[X-Chat 2.4.1] 04:06
Seveasaquarius, there is a bug in bugzilla about this04:06
onkarshindeWhat packages are needed on to get XFCE working on Ubuntu?04:06
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aquariusSeveas, ah, OK.04:06
Ubabewoohoo! I have connection to the Internet! :D04:06
black_nightmarepizbit...hmm well I don't see a X11R6 but I'm assuming that libx11-6 is simply the same (the '6' number)04:06
black_nightmareor am I wrong?04:06
Guilmonblack_nightmare: you need the -dev package04:06
black_nightmareok..thats one more download to do...04:07
SeveasUbabe, no you don't it's just your imagination :)04:07
black_nightmarelibx11-dev added04:07
Pizbitblack_nightmare: If it doesn't work, you look for something similar:D04:07
theineonkarshide: you'll see it if you issue 'sudo apt-get install xfce4'04:07
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onkarshindeThanks04:08
black_nightmareok libx11-6 and related added... gnustep make added.....04:08
theineonkarshide: you need to enable the universe repository04:08
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Guilmonblack_nightmare: it contains the headers04:08
onkarshindetheine: I think I need to add -f before install04:08
black_nightmarepizbit.. do you know specifically which libc6 would have pthreads in it?04:08
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Pizbitblack_nightmare: Nope04:09
aquariusSeveas, looks like the dict file is in wbritish...04:09
theineonkarshide: maybe... but most probably not04:09
black_nightmarehmm ok...at least libc6 and libc6-dev are already on hd04:09
black_nightmarehope that works04:09
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PizbitCyas04:10
black_nightmarebye then pizbit04:10
black_nightmareguilmon do you know about GTK+?04:10
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Dr_Acemasterdoes evolution support hotmail?04:10
SeveasDr_Acemaster, no, you need hotwayd for that04:11
Dr_Acemasterno chit04:11
Dr_Acemasterok04:11
Seveaswith that you can read hotmail from every client04:11
Seveas(also evo)04:11
Dr_Acemasterahh04:11
UbabeSeveas: its true dude! :D04:11
Guilmonblack_nightmare: I do.04:11
onkarshindeDr_Acemaster: AFAIK no email client supports hotmail exept MS Outlook and OE04:11
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SeveasUbabe, well, congratiolations then :)04:11
Ubabei hath a connection, downloading updates from security.ubuntu.com as we chat :)04:12
Ubabehehe04:12
Guilmonblack_nightmare: you don't have to ask questoins. If its computers,  I know it.04:12
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airoxI just love the update manager :)04:12
Dr_Acemasterso where do I find hotwayd?04:12
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Guilmonblack_nightmare: I'm more experienced, thought out, and researched more than your average PhD ;)04:12
Guilmonblack_nightmare: just ask away04:12
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SeveasGuilmon, then tell me how I can patch glibc's dyamic loader in such a way that it supports user-transparent checkpoints without kernel interference and with TLS enabled04:13
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GuilmonSeveas: if you are using multiple patches which might conflict, you need to hand code the patches in.04:13
black_nightmareyou're quite amusing guilmon04:13
dtudosiehi everybody04:13
SeveasGuilmon, that's not the question04:13
[nrx_] hm04:13
GuilmonSeveas: yes04:14
Seveasnope04:14
GuilmonSeveas: you hand patch the patches ;)04:14
onkarshindeGood day everybody. I am going.04:14
Seveasthe question is: how to create this functionality04:14
GuilmonSeveas: I assume you had trouble patching04:14
Seveasthere exist no such patches04:14
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GuilmonSeveas: oh, heh. cute ;)04:14
black_nightmareguilmon ok.... the readme says I need GTK+ 1.2 or better but when I check synaptic there's a lot of gtk2-engines-xxxx and not all are selected that I'm wondering what I actually need04:14
SeveasGuilmon, so stop bragging or answer this...04:14
dtudosiehewooo... anybody in-here ?04:15
black_nightmarereadme doesn't say any more than that gtk+ 1.2 is needed04:15
Seveasdtudosie, nope04:15
black_nightmareor I probably should just leave this alone?04:15
Guilmonblack_nightmare: if it says gtk1.2 or better, make sure it allowed gtk2. gtk2 interface is different from 1.204:15
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Guilmonblack_nightmare: there are files already installed, or I thought. but not for -dev04:15
black_nightmarewell it says "GTK+ 1.2 or better" already....so I'm thinking 2.0 will do?04:16
Dr_Acemasteris there a compiled hotwayd already for ubuntu?04:16
dtudosieSeveas: yeah.. something with my connection... sorry04:16
Guilmonblack_nightmare: maybe not.04:16
SeveasDr_Acemaster, yes04:16
kbrooksblack_nightmare, it will04:16
Seveasin the 'hotway' package04:16
black_nightmarewell gtk2-engines-dev is not selected...should I download that too in case?04:17
kbrooksGuilmon, it will04:17
kbrooksyes04:17
Guilmonkbrooks: you've tried the application hes trying to compile?04:17
Dr_Acemastercan I use apt-get hotwayd?04:17
black_nightmareheh it selected several other things it wanted to install too :p04:17
Seveassudo apt-get install hotway04:17
Seveasthat should work04:17
Dr_Acemasterthanks, still a novice here :)04:17
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alterimhello04:18
alterimcan someone tell me the best way to share files between linux and xp on a dual boot machine?04:18
black_nightmareguilmon you mind pm for a second?  I got a 4-line text to paste04:18
alterimsomeone mentioned a fat32 partition..?04:18
Guilmonblack_nightmare: I don't mind04:19
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alterimcan someone tell me the best way to share files between linux and xp on a dual boot machine?04:19
Seveasalterim, either a fat32 partition or a usb stick04:19
Dr_Acemasterso now that I have hotway installed, it should just show up in evolution?04:19
kbrooksalterim, fat32 partition04:20
SeveasDr_Acemaster, no, you will have to configure it first04:20
Seveasi don't know how though, so read the manual :)04:20
Dr_Acemasterok will do04:20
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GuilmonSeveas: there are plenty of chkpt libraries out there, I haven't tried TLS with them personally.04:22
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dtudosieI have an issue related to reading the ink-level for epson printers and I'm not sure if it is ubuntu specific or not... so anybody managed to read the ink-level for an epson printer inubuntu (hoary)04:22
SeveasGuilmon, that's the problem04:22
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Seveasall user level ckpts are obsolete04:23
Seveasnone understand tls04:23
GuilmonSeveas: I figured so.04:23
GuilmonSeveas: so its a "nobody wants to write it" issue04:23
Seveasso if you know how to implement it, i'd love to hear it04:23
SeveasI want to write it as part of my grid-wide checkpoint project04:23
GuilmonSeveas: I would like to know to out of curiosity04:23
Seveasbut I have no clues on where to start04:24
GuilmonSeveas: oh? where are you studying?04:24
GuilmonSeveas: you can start by forking an existing project and piecing it together ;)04:24
Guilmonhttp://www.science.uva.nl/research/scs/Software/ckpt/04:24
SeveasGuilmon, THAT is my project :)04:24
GuilmonSeveas: oh :o04:24
Seveasbut what you see there is dated :)04:24
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SeveasI have been developing v 2.204:25
Seveasso know you know where I work :)04:25
GuilmonSeveas: hmmm..04:25
gillesThe xserver on hoary only works with depth 16 and 640x480 on an Acer Travelmate 230, I'm losing hope to make it work, can someone help me ?04:26
GuilmonSeveas: I'm giong to allocate some cycles for thought of this in a bit :)04:26
SeveasGuilmon, if you really are interested, keep an eye on dynamite.sourceforge.net (still empty, but will upload soon)04:26
GuilmonSeveas: its computer-related, you bet I'm interested04:27
Seveaslol04:27
dockanegilles, i am currently working on the same problem with my thinpad t2104:27
Seveasthere's a whole lot of stuff that is computer related :)04:27
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GuilmonSeveas: yes there is, but you just need to pick out the trash.04:27
gillesdockane: we have to keep in touch then...04:28
SeveasCurrently working on parallel simulations of heat/diffusion functions04:28
gillesdockane: it seems that it's because of xorg04:28
Seveas(masters course on scientific computing, exam in 2 days)04:28
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dockaneyes i am currently editing the xorg.conf in /etc/X1104:28
GuilmonSeveas: there are lots of large open source projects which are trash because they don't lead up to the other projects because of it was split for the reasons of testosterone ;)04:28
gillesdockane: because it works on xfree04:28
GuilmonSeveas: nice.04:28
Seveasyeah, a lot of developers are too testosterony04:29
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dockanegilles, maybe check your /var/log/X11.0.log (similiar)04:29
dockanegilles, i ll reboot and test it. or  is there a way to restart x wihout killing programms runnning ?04:29
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Seveasdockane, not really, everything you started while you were in X will be killed04:30
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dockaneSeveas, i see thnx04:30
Guilmonits a pity the best Toolki(QT) costs so much for proprietary use :(04:31
WeirdAlHas anyone joined in the past hour who can tell me how to configure the Flash plugin for Firefox so that it uses ALSA?04:31
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BazziGuilmon how do you think could it become so good?04:31
GuilmonBazzi: payed developers :)04:32
Guilmon*paid04:32
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Bazziyeah paid by propriatary use ;)04:32
kbrooksoh sheesh04:32
GuilmonBazzi: couldn't they just sell something for 5000USD each? ;)04:32
SeveasGuilmon, that says NOTHING at all :)04:32
GuilmonSeveas: what says nothin?04:32
Seveasthe best software is created by volunteers, not by paid people :)04:32
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Ubabeheres aqn that some ppl mightn't have asked04:33
GuilmonSeveas: well Qt has had volunteers ;)04:33
Seveashehe04:33
GuilmonSeveas: trolltech is releasing a GPL version for windows in Qt4 :)04:33
WeirdAlAlso, how do I get xaim to work with my irman?04:33
kbrooks<alterim> hey\n<alterim> currently i have a 30gb ntfs, a 90 gb ext3 and a 1gb swap\n<alterim> i'd like to make the 90gb ext3 into a 30gb ext3 and a 60gb fat32\n<alterim> i have partition magic for xp\n<alterim> can i do this?\n<kbrooks> dont pm me pls\n<alterim> hahaha!!! excellent\n<-- alterim has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.04:33
Ubabe...Ubuntu for Power PC, is there a strictly LinuxPower PC resource for Ubuntu users, for those that don't happen to use an X86 processor?04:34
kbrooks^^^^^^^^^04:34
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Ubabelike a Mac users resource for Unbuntu users?04:34
Seveaswhat do you mean with "resource"?04:34
Curaltonmac -> linux migration guide?04:35
GuilmonI think I might start using java for certain programs since Sun is showing a backbone :)04:35
Ubabelike a channel like this one, where most of its users use macs and not PC's04:35
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Ubabeim an op for a Macintosh chat channel, and some of them use Unix/Linux you see.04:35
paulswm<kbrooks> i believe /var gets rm -rf'd at every boot04:35
paulswm^^^04:35
SeveasUbabe, there is no #ubunto-ppc afaik04:35
UbabeCuralton: more like a #UbuntuMac type of channel or web site resource04:36
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UbabeSeveas, thats what I thought04:36
kbrookspaulswm, dont post stuff from the past04:36
dockanenow this resolution problem start to pi** me off04:36
Curaltonindeed, /msg chanserv list *ubuntu*  doesnt show a ppc channel04:36
airoxpaulswm: hehehe04:36
paulswmairox: he said that yesterday in #debian04:36
UbabeMy goal is to get a decent distribution of Linux onto my server here at home, i.e to do away with Mac OSX server04:36
kbrookspaulswm, EOF04:37
airoxpaulswm: typo ?04:37
Ubabe...so far Ubuntu seems to be the only user friendly one ive used.04:37
paulswmairox: No, he believed it04:37
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kbrookspaulswm, EOF04:37
kbrookspaulswm, EOF04:37
xeroxHmm, how to watch a .mov under ubuntu?04:37
CuraltonUbabe: heh, dont know how well it handles servertasks04:37
blueyedIs the bug with Synaptic known where an added custom repository does not appear until you start the packet manager dialog again?04:37
dockanewho was the guy with the travelmate resolution problem04:37
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WeirdAlAlso I need to know how to resize an ext3 partition without PartitionMagic.04:38
UbabeCuralton: how well Ubuntu serves server tasks? or how well OSX Server serves server tasks?04:38
[nrx] Seveas, up for the ndis problem again later? :)04:38
airoxWeirdAl: parted can do this afaik.04:38
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WeirdAlQTParted can't ....04:38
CuraltonUbabe: dont know, you can have everything debian has, but then you probably have to edit stuff on the commandline again04:38
Seveas[nrx] , no not really, I'm having ndiswrapper problems with the hoary kernel too :/04:38
WeirdAlIs parted something different?04:38
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[nrx] Seveas, i be warty04:38
CuraltonUbabe: and there goes your "ease of use"04:38
Ubabeaha04:38
airoxWeirdAl: don't know.04:38
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dragonbyteI am getting a ton of egg_desktop_entries errors from dpkg, anyone know wtf this is?04:39
Ubabeyeah, user friendly wise i see your point, but my goal is to know command line well enough you see :)04:39
airoxWeirdAl: did you umount'ed it ?04:39
CuraltonUbabe: ah, well then maybe start with sarge-ppc-netinstall.iso04:39
Seveas[nrx] , well ok then :)04:39
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[nrx] Seveas, :P04:39
Ubabewell ive started with Ubuntu PPC for a spare Power PC laptop i have here at home.04:39
WeirdAlNo, I booted from it.04:40
CuraltonUbabe: then you dont have to mix the "clean" ubuntu repository with debian stuff for the server. or maybe check the "universe" repositories04:40
Harpihi everybody04:40
Harpican someone help me04:40
Harpi??04:40
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michaelyes maybe04:40
[nrx] Harpi, if you tell us your problem, perhaps.04:40
thotypoushi04:40
Seveasdragonbyte, i get these things too, they seem pretty harmless04:40
thotypousi'm running XDirectFB on Ubuntu! yeah! =)04:40
WeirdAlairox -- maybe it's because I can't resize the partition that I'm currently using as root?04:40
dragonbyteSeveas: they had been for a long time, but they broke bluefish now04:40
Seveasai04:40
dragonbyteSeveas: causes dpkg to fail04:41
airoxWeirdAl: doh...04:41
Harpii d like to install ubuntu on a dedicated parttion but i don't know the formating system i should use04:41
WeirdAlairox: Is that likely?04:41
Seveasdragonbyte, file a bug against dpkg then04:41
airoxWeirdAl: Use knoppix or some similar livecd to boot and then resize.04:41
WeirdAlYeah I thought of this too.04:41
airoxWeirdAl: You can't resize a partition when you have it mounted.04:41
dragonbyteSeveas: it looks like its a really common issue04:41
airoxWouldn't be wise I mean.04:41
WeirdAlAha04:41
Harpido anyone understand ??04:41
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dragonbyteSeveas: cant seem to find anything that actually nails down what causes it04:41
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airoxHarpi: You mean, using ext3, reiser or ext2 ?04:42
Harpiyes or fat 3204:42
WeirdAlHarpi -- ext304:42
Harpibecause i hace already done a format in fat 3204:42
airoxIt's all up to you to decide.04:42
paulswmairox: Anyway, the moral of the clip is to be careful from whom you take advice :)04:42
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Harpihow can i do it??04:42
WeirdAlAlso have a small partition (about 1GB) as Linux swap.04:42
airoxHarpi: fat32 isn't wise.04:42
kbrooksHarpi, fat32 won't fit on any linux root partition04:43
Harpii know04:43
WeirdAlWhen you install Ubuntu it will give you a partition.04:43
WeirdAler04:43
kbrooks"fit"*04:43
WeirdAlIt will give you a partitioner04:43
airoxpaulswm: yeah. Would be nice to see my /var/www with dozens of hours of work be removed :)04:43
gillesi have got the following error msg when running startx: screen(s) found, but non have a usable configuration. What can I do ?04:43
Seveaslol airox :)04:43
Harpihowever i have another problem04:43
WeirdAlHarpi, when you boot from the CD you will be given the option to automatically configure free space for Linux.04:43
airoxHarpi: Use ext3 would be my advice to.04:43
kbrooksairox and paulswm: EOF04:43
Seveas/var/lock an /var/run are cleaned04:43
Seveasfortunately /var isn't :)04:44
Harpidoes it mean that i should make format before ?04:44
kbrooksSeveas, you drop it, too.04:44
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Seveaskbrooks, drop what?04:44
Seveasand since when are you operator?04:44
kbrooksthis stupid argument04:44
httpdssis there a way to know how long it took my system to boot ? (other than using a clock :P)04:44
Seveaskbrooks, this isn't an argument04:44
Seveasit's just a remark of mine04:44
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black_nightmarehttpdss lol :p04:44
airoxHarpi: I guess ubuntu can do all this partitioning etc.04:44
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airoxhttpdss: Defining when it's booted is kinda hard.04:45
WeirdAlHarpi: If you use PartitionMagic to delete everything from the partition where you want Ubuntu, then you can get Ubuntu to set it up for you.04:45
WeirdAlHarpi: that means you want unformatted space.04:45
Harpiok04:46
OpaHI'd like to thank the people who made 'Hoary' - that's an outstanding job well done. //rhi04:46
kbrooksHarpi, DONT LISTEN TO WeirdAl. LISTEN TO ME04:46
Harpiok04:46
airoxhttpdss: Some processes are send to the background.04:46
WeirdAl:(04:46
kbrooksHarpi, You can get ubuntu to delete your hard drive...if you want04:46
httpdssbooted, in my case, would be... getting to the gdm login screen04:46
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nmsaOpaH, I agree with you and I subscribe!04:46
Harpii dont want04:46
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WeirdAlkbrooks, Ubuntu will automatically configure empty partitions... he doesn't have to delete his entire drive!04:47
airoxhttpdss: I would use a watch ;)04:47
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httpdss;)04:47
Harpii have important data on a part of hd04:47
blueyedWhat would be a good partition strategy for installing Ubuntu (I'll have 300gb and two users)?04:47
OpaHis there a channel here for a 'hardware-detection' issue?04:47
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httpdssk, thx04:47
Seveaskbrooks, stop shouting04:47
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CB201'lo everyone04:47
airoxblueyed: Think about LVM.04:47
paulswmYeah listen to kbrooks, he's obviously an expert, heh04:47
SeveasOpaH, depends on the issue, try here04:47
kbrooksblueyed, a /home partition is redundant in this case04:48
CB201can someone tell me how to *write* to my Windows partition as well as read from it?04:48
nmsaI am thinking to by a new pc with AMD Opteron CPU, where can I find more info on linux on AMD or linux experience on AMD please ?04:48
Harpiso finally what should i do04:48
Harpi??04:48
blueyedWhat's LVM, airox?04:48
kbrooksHarpi, listen to WeirdAl........ ;)04:48
airoxHarpi: Insert the disk, boot it and look carefully about which partition you format and delete.04:48
WeirdAl:-D04:48
Curaltonnmsa: #ubuntu-amd64 ?04:48
Harpiok04:48
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WeirdAlHarpi -- here's what you want.04:48
Harpithanks...i ll do so04:49
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kbrooksblueyed, lvm means logical volume management04:49
WeirdAlThe area where you want Linux to be... use PartitionMagic to set it as "unformatted"04:49
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Harpiok04:49
airoxblueyed: It let's you resize virtual partitions on the fly.04:49
airoxblueyed: Or make 2 HD's look like 1.04:49
OpaHSeveas: Hardware detects an S3Virge card, but which won't work - it needs the vesa & Framebuffer stuff - Problem is that the installation attempts to go graphic, and also looses the normal 'character consoles'04:49
WeirdAlThen boot from the Ubuntu CD, and it will give you the option to "Use the largest continuous area of free space"04:49
blueyedah, fine.04:49
nmsaCuralton, sure thing, what is the advantage of having a amnd64 as CPU? wil it be really a sensible diff ?04:49
[nrx_] k. who's up for a spot of ndiswrapper problems?04:49
Harpii m gona try it known, see you...04:49
WeirdAlThen you can get it to automatically create the partitions.04:49
Harpiok04:49
Curaltonnmsa: faster, a lot04:49
WeirdAlGood luck with that.04:50
Harpithanks04:50
airoxblueyed: You define physical volumes to a Volume Group and out off that you can create logical volumes.04:50
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nmsaI will use this for video editing, probably in wind00ze04:50
SeveasOpaH, for that -> go to #ubuntu-devel, this sounds like a bug04:50
CB201[nrx_] , I just installed ndiswrapper successfully, mayeb I can help04:50
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blueyedairox: Can I use this after installation and move the directories there?04:50
nmsaCuralton, where can I find some becnhmarks ?04:50
airoxblueyed: It's wise to use because sometimes you can't make proper calculations about how much space you would use for which partition.04:50
[nrx_] CB201, it's for a dwl-g650+04:50
nmsaI'll be happy to take a look04:50
blueyedairox: couldn't you alter partition size later nevertheless?04:51
CB201[nrx_] , what's the problem?04:51
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airoxblueyed: That would be possible. But with the use of LVM it's far more easier.04:51
Curaltonnmsa: uh, dont know for ubuntu. google for database stuff etc.04:51
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airoxblueyed: Ubuntu supports LVM04:51
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airoxblueyed: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/benefitsoflvmlarge.html04:51
Dr_Acemasterhow can I access the windows boxes on my lan in ubuntu?04:51
Curaltonnmsa: but for normal desktop use a normal athlon64 should suffice04:51
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kbrooksI want to LVM. How do I do so?04:51
SeveasDr_Acemaster, do you run hoary?04:51
[nrx_] CB201, i've installed ndiswrapper.. and imported the correct drivers for the card.. but when i insert the card.. there's error messages in dmesg and the card doesn't light up04:51
airoxDr_Acemaster: Location -> Network servers (could be something else because I run an other language then english)04:52
Dr_AcemasterSeveas: heh I'm not sure, how do I find out04:52
airoxkbrooks: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO04:52
kbrooksty airox04:52
kbrookslvm is tempting -_-04:52
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kbrooks;)04:52
SeveasDr_Acemaster, in a shell type cat /etc/issue04:52
Dr_AcemasterI've gone to network under computer on the taskbar, and can see the windows boxes04:52
Dr_Acemasterbut can't access the files04:52
Seveasif it says "Hoary Hedgehog", you run hoary :)04:52
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airoxIt sure is. Especially in cases where you have raid and like 10 HD's ;)04:53
Dr_Acemasterasks for password when there shouldn't be04:53
pepsi#kubuntu04:53
nmsaCuralton: I want more power, to feel it in my hands :) ... I ove ubuntu, is so much faster then mandrake, and so easy to setup and stuff ...04:53
Seveasah ok04:53
Seveasand if you leave the passwords empty?04:53
[nrx_] CB201, any ideas?04:53
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Curaltonnmsa: opterons.. well, overkill imho :)04:53
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Dr_Acemasterwell I should clarify, doesn't ask for password, just says I don't have proper permissions04:54
nmsaanyone does video capture in linux ? avi to DVD ?04:54
Dr_AcemasterSeveas: no I don't have hoary04:54
Dr_Acemasterjust warty I guess :)04:54
Seveas:)04:54
Dr_Acemasterwhat is hoary?04:54
Dr_AcemasterI see lots talkin about it04:54
airoxThe development version of Ubuntu.04:54
Seveasi have had this issue once, this stopped me from using nautilus for samba04:54
kbrooks'The logical volume manager also allows management of storage volumes in user-defined groups, allowing the system administrator to deal with sensibly named volume groups such as "development" and "sales" rather than physical disk names such as "sda" and "sdb".' <<< Anyone think this could be useful for my computer?04:55
Dr_AcemasterSeveas: I've been reading online and seems many had to do it via command line04:55
[nrx_] folks... anyone seen this or similar before: "ERROR 2 trying to open firmware image file '/lib/hotplug/firmware/TIACX111.BIN-2.6.8.1-3-386': file not found - make sure this EXACT filename is in eXaCtLy this directory!04:55
[nrx_] "04:55
SeveasUsing smbmount everything worked fine04:55
nmsaCuralton: see, will buy one in a week ... I think I can get a brand new AMD and SATA 160G + 1G mem for less then 900 E + a SonicView 19'' LCD ... maybe I will ask for discount ...04:55
SeveasDr_Acemaster, commandline tools to the rescue then :)04:55
gillesdockane: did you find something ?04:55
Dr_AcemasterSeveas: heh that may be, as you can tell I'm a big time linux novice04:55
airoxkbrooks: depends.04:55
Dr_Acemasterthat's why the command lines scare me :)04:56
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SeveasDr_Acemaster, sure i can shall i do that in a private chat?04:56
Curaltonnmsa: sweet for sure. but also check about linux compatibility of the components, sometimes an issue with these brand new hardware parts04:56
airoxDr_Acemaster: heh. Don't be. :)04:56
Seveasthe shell is your friend :)04:56
Dr_Acemasterheh04:56
airoxDr_Acemaster: It's powerfull but not very user friendly.04:56
nmsaCuralton: I will, thnx for the tip ;)04:56
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Seveasairox, it is :)04:56
Dr_Acemasterwell the more I use it the more I like it, but ifyou don't konw the right commands, your SOL04:56
benjanetwhen i try to make an Audio Cd on K3B from mp3s, i get the following error "format not supported" (hoary)04:56
dragonbytewhy doesnt ubuntu have mplayer packages?04:57
Seveasdragonbyte, hoary has04:57
Dr_Acemasterok Seveas, whatever you recommend my friend, what's the next step?04:57
airoxIt does Seveas ?04:57
Seveasfor warty: use marillat04:57
Seveasairox, afaik yes04:57
airoxSeveas: Without using other sources I mean.04:57
dragonbyteSeveas: i am on hoary04:57
SeveasDr_Acemaster, installing the commandline tools is the next step04:57
dragonbyteSeveas: what is the marillat source?04:57
dragonbyteairox: i don't think it does, i just had to remove mplayer to fix this stuff04:58
dragonbyteincidentally bluefish package is broke due to a type </dev/bull instead of /dev/null>04:58
dragonbytein postinst04:58
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airoxdragonbyte: marillat is another repository where some .deb's off mplayer are kept.04:58
Seveasdragonbyte, it is in hoary multiverse04:58
dragonbyteairox: right, but what is the marillat source line?04:59
Dr_AcemasterSeveas: did you say youw anted to do this in a private message?04:59
airoxdragonbyte: Visit http://www.ubuntuguide.org for them.04:59
Seveasdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main04:59
paulswmkbrooks: LVM is useful if you need to move or resize filesystems, as they are logical entities rather than physical ones and may therefore be dropped/recreated/resized without physical repartitioning04:59
SeveasDr_Acemaster, if you agree on that04:59
Dr_Acemastersure04:59
Dr_AcemasterI didn't realize pm was such a big deal :)04:59
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Ubabehow are we all?05:00
Seveasi usually don't like people suddenly pm'ing me05:00
Seveasthat's why i ask :)05:00
airoxkbrooks: Adding a HD to a logical volume would make your partition become larger without a single hassle.05:00
Ubabeseveas: noted05:00
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Ubabesometimes if im chatting on channel with just one person, i susually ask by pm if i can just chat with them, saves the clutter often05:01
paulswmYou would add an HD to a Volume Group05:01
dragonbyteSeveas: what the hell is multiverse? :)05:01
jesus-what bittorrent program is included with ubuntu?05:01
airoxYeah.05:01
jesus-never mind05:01
jesus-i must be blind05:01
Seveasdragonbyte, the non-free section of ubuntu05:01
dockanewhat should that be for a 1024x768 lcd display in a thinkpad t21 ?05:01
dockaneII) SAVAGE(0): Standardbildschirm: Using default hsync range of 28.00-33.00$05:01
Seveasor more likely: the cntrib section05:01
dragonbyteSeveas: i have http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe05:01
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dragonbyteSeveas: do i just need to add multiverse to the end of that?05:02
airoxAnyone knows about a nice RSS aggregrator that could sit in my iconbar of gnome and say something if a new item is available ?05:02
Seveasdragonbyte, yes05:02
dragonbyteSeveas: does the multiverse include the marillat codecs?05:03
Seveasdragonbyte, it merely suggests: them05:03
Seveasso you need marillat for that05:03
Seveas(again: afaik, my memory is flaky sometimes)05:03
airox:)05:03
SeveasHmm, it would be great to have ECC on my brain :D05:03
airoxLet's have breakfast at 17:03 ...05:04
dragonbyteSeveas: hrm why is xmms required for mplayer?05:04
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dragonbytexmms is kinda poo compared to beep05:04
benjanetwhen i try to make an Audio Cd on K3B from mp3s, i get the following error "format not supported" (hoary), any ideas ?05:04
vpallehow do i edit the menus in hoary?05:04
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JLyou can in "warty, but not in "hoary" yet05:05
Seveasdragonbyte, dunno05:05
Seveasi still have mplayer from marillat :)05:05
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Alexmipegowhy doesn't ubuntu add menu entries for apps I install from synaptic05:06
Alexmipego?05:06
WeirdAlWhat do I use to burn ISOs to CD in Ubuntu?05:06
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JLvpalle,  you can in "warty, but not in "hoary" yet05:06
SiRrUsWeirdAl graveman works good05:06
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JLvpalle, what are you running?05:06
SeveasAlexmipego, because the apps do not tell ubuntu to do that05:07
vpalleJDahl, hoary05:07
mjrWeirdAl, right click in nautilus05:07
AlexmipegoSeveas, but they are from ubuntu repositories, they should...05:07
a_masonWeirdAl, or cdrecord in console05:07
vpalleJL, hoary05:07
Seveasvpalle, in hoary: use the menu editor from Amaranth, that can do some editing05:07
SeveasAlexmipego, not really05:07
zygaAlexmipego: It's up to the author of the package05:07
WeirdAlAh yes. Thanks. :-)05:07
zygaAlexmipego: It's really simple - you can contribute05:07
zygaAlexmipego: take a look at any .desktop file on your box05:08
kbrookshah05:08
zygaAlexmipego: or check the official specs at freedesktop.org05:08
WeirdAlAfter Windows, I'm so wary of in-built CD writers that I just don't look for it any more :-)05:08
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zygaAlexmipego:  It takes a minute to create and install a .desktop file for any app05:08
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Alexmipegoya I guess05:09
zygaAlexmipego: (apart from the icon of course)05:09
AlexmipegoI even have menu-edit05:09
zygaAlexmipego: no you need gedit only05:09
zygaAlexmipego: .desktop files are just several lines long05:09
AlexmipegoI know05:09
alterimanyone help me with a ext3 partition error?05:10
zygaAlexmipego: you don't need 'fancy' menu editor to do it05:10
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Alexmipegojust asked because I could be missing something05:10
AlexmipegoI switched from fc3 yesterday05:10
alterimanyone help me with a ext3 partition error?05:10
zygaAlexmipego: it had a menu editor?05:10
zygaalterim: what can we do?05:11
dragonbyteSeveas: do you have xmms installed?05:11
Alexmipegozyga, not actually, but gnome had "applications:///" and almost every rpm had a menu entry05:12
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dockanegilles : not yet, looks like the HorizSync Value in xorg.conf reduces the possible resolution . did you find anyhting ?05:12
zygaAlexmipego: I see05:12
zygaAlexmipego: well you can get the .desktop files from rpms as long as the license allows it05:12
kbrookser05:13
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kbrookskyle@kyle:~ $ sudo mount -o loop slackware-10.1-install-d1.iso /mnt/iso05:13
kbrooksPassword:05:13
kbrooksmount: could not find any device /dev/loop#05:13
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kbrookswhy that?05:13
Seveaskbrooks, modprobe loop05:13
kbrooksk05:13
a_masonin warty, when i try to 'make install' I get the following error > if test ! -d /usr/local/man/man1 ; then mkdir -p /usr/local/man/man1; fi \ mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/man': File exists \ make: *** [install]  Error 105:15
a_masonfor Mplayer05:15
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a_mason/usr/local/man is a soft link to /usr/share/man05:15
Myrttiwhy on earth do you want to install it like than05:16
Seveasa_mason, install mplayer_custom from marillat05:16
Myrttis/than/that05:16
Seveasno need to compile yourself05:16
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a_masonthey how will I learn?05:16
bodhihi, does anyone know how to configure a irda adapter to link with my mobile?05:16
Alexmipegobodhi, nokia?05:17
Seveasa_mason, i like that attitude :)05:17
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bodhino, a sony-ericcson05:17
Seveasbut the makefile of mplayer seems to be broken badly05:17
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Alexmipegobodhi, I only know gnokii05:17
bodhibut i dont know how to run irda05:17
Seveasso installing a precompiled version is the better way here05:17
Seveasbodhi: apt-get install irda-utils05:17
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a_masonbetter, or easier? :P05:18
Alexmipegomaybe it works with those also, see it. At least it have docs on how to setup irda05:18
dragonbytewtf!? why can't i install mplayer without freaking xmms05:18
bodhiSeveas: I saw the package, but do i need to change something in kernel or add a module?05:18
Seveasmodprobe irda05:19
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Seveasecho irda | sudo tee -a /etc/modules05:19
bodhiso, if i see irda in /etc/modules it should be working?05:20
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bodhiseveas: modprobe is just for this session or I need to add "modprobe irda" to a configuration file?05:21
a_masonfixed the mplayer install, it was getting confused with the softlink file.  Works great now.05:22
Seveasecho irda | sudo tee -a /etc/modules05:22
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Seveasthat's when you want it to auto-load05:22
bodhiok05:23
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bodhiany program to tranfers file ot to manage a conection between mobile a irda?05:23
Alexmipegognokii05:24
[nrx_] Seveas, got the card working.. it's at least talking to the pc05:24
[nrx_] Seveas, just need to get the interface up05:24
Seveasifconfig wlan0 up05:24
Seveasdhclient wlan005:24
black_nightmarehmm irda....05:24
bodhignokii is just for nokia or I can use it with a sony-ercisson?05:24
black_nightmareI always wondered about finding a low-priced irda parallel adapter :p05:25
[nrx_] see, it comes back saying "wlan0: no such device"05:25
Artanishm sound in battle for wesnoth doesnt work05:25
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Seveas[nrx_] , than it has another name perhaps?05:25
Seveashave you run: ndiswrapper -m05:26
[nrx_] not that i can see05:26
Seveasand modprobe ndiswrapper05:26
ArtanisI can play ogg and mp3 files though05:26
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[nrx_] Seveas, and after those two commands?05:28
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Seveasretry ifconfig :)05:30
[nrx_] it comes back with two entires... lo and eth005:30
bodhianyone know any program to manage irda conections but gnokii? My mobile is not supported05:30
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twentyonehop05:32
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ApesMaHow do I control which sound device is "card 0", which is "card 1", etc?05:33
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[nrx_] no. damn. wlan005:33
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Alexmipegobodhi, google knows everything05:33
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dmoyneI cannot get the windows iconified in the icon bar as supposed to be with KDE 3.405:34
vmrochai'm having trouble to start emacs, does anyone can help me?05:34
topylibodhi: try gammu05:34
bodhitopyli: thank you05:35
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bodhiAlexmipego: if Google knows everything, why we need support and help channel in IRC? ;)05:35
topylibodhi: openobex might also be helpful for simple file transfers05:36
vmrochaubunt package for emacs just come with emacs-x ??? (not emacs)05:36
black_nightmarebodhi...ROFL :p05:36
vmrochadoes anyone knows anything about it?05:36
Alexmipegobodhi, because irc, etc.. feed google with new info?05:37
vmrochai'm trying to start emacs on text mode05:37
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[nrx_] Seveas, any  more ideas?05:37
topylivmrocha: try 'emacs -nw'05:37
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vmrochatopy: great! worked! tanks a lot!05:38
bodhiummm not exacltly Google doesnt see everything05:38
bodhitopyli: thank you again05:38
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projectmayhemhello... anyone here use marillat apt-get repo? i'm having trouble getting it to work in hoary...05:43
no0tica tool to control startup scripts?05:43
Seveasprojectmayhem, key errors?05:44
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projectmayhemseveas yep!05:44
Seveasno0tic, define "control"05:44
bodhicron05:44
Seveasprojectmayhem, hold on05:44
projectmayhemseveas thx05:44
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bodhimaybe, he means "start" as "control"05:45
bodhino0tic: you mean a way to start a scripts and be noticed the way it finishes?05:46
Seveasprojectmayhem: gpg --recv-keys 1F41B907 && gpg --export --armor 1F41B907 > /tmp/marillat-key && sudo apt-key add /tmp/marillat-key && rm /tmp/marillat-key05:46
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harpishi05:46
harpisi need some of your help05:46
Seveastype that all on one line and you're done :)05:46
projectmayhemseveas awesome, thanks05:46
no0ticSeveas: choose what scripts to start and what to not start05:46
projectmayhemum seveas... gpg: no keyserver known (use option --keyserver)05:47
projectmayhemgpg: keyserver receive failed: bad URI05:47
projectmayhemis that a problem?05:47
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projectmayhemor normal?05:47
harpisi have installed ubunt but the x server doesn't want to run on05:47
no0ticSeveas: now I do this work manually05:47
bodhino0tic: cron05:47
harpiswhen i boot05:47
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bodhiand crontab05:47
Lemonzestis the dhcp package fixed? because i lost my connection yestaday and was told it was the updated package05:47
harpis...05:47
no0ticbodhi: at boot time, probably I was not clear05:47
Seveasno0tic, chmod -x the scripts you don't want to start05:47
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SeveasLemonzest, it is05:47
Seveasthe ubuntu3 and ubunt4 packages are good05:48
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Lemonzestso when i run the bunty updater it will be fine?05:48
harpishelp me ...please05:48
Seveasyes05:48
no0ticSeveas: now I use this way, I would like to know if there's a tool to do it05:48
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Lemonzestthanks05:48
bodhirc05:48
Seveasno0tic, no nice tool05:48
bodhiif you mean at boot time, rc05:48
Seveasyou can use update-rc.d, but that will be reset when packages are upgraded05:48
harpisi have installed ubunt but the x server doesn't want to run on so i cant get on the desktop05:49
Seveasso chmod -x is the tool to use05:49
Seveasharpis, what is the error you get?05:49
no0ticServo888: thanks05:49
no0ticSeveas: thanks05:49
topylino0tic: there's sysv-rc-conf if you want a "gui" tool05:49
Lemonzestwould the dailiy install iso also be fixed?05:49
SeveasLemonzest, i guess so05:50
Lemonzestthanks05:50
harpistoo long to type but "xio : fatal error 104 (connection reset by peer" on X server ":0.0"....05:50
no0tictopyli: thanks05:50
harpisi can give you more detail05:50
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Seveasharpis, we need more detail :05:51
vixusHey everyone.05:51
Seveascan you put more info (like the complete error) somewhere?05:51
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harpisafter 0 request (0known processed) with 0 events remaining05:51
vixusHow come the dotblend tutorials aren't working?05:51
harpisfailed to load module "v41"05:51
vixusoops, wrong chan.05:51
harpiswant more ?05:51
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Seveasharpis, at least the first few errors05:52
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Seveasin the correct order :)05:52
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harpisthose are the first05:52
Seveasah ok05:52
harpiscaught signal 11 server aborting05:53
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Seveasouch05:53
harpisdo you have any idea05:53
Seveasx server segfaulting...05:53
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harpisand ??05:54
harpiswell i m gona give errors in the corect order05:54
harpisw805:54
harpisfailed to load module "v41"05:54
harpiscaught signal 11 server aborting05:55
harpistoo long to type but "xio : fatal error 104 (connection reset by peer" on X server ":0.0"....05:55
harpisafter 0 request (0known processed) with 0 events remaining05:55
Seveasah, that is a more reasonable order :)05:55
harpisthat's it05:55
Seveasare you still on that machine in text mode?05:55
harpisyes05:55
Myrttiis there a list of locales available for Ubuntu?05:55
harpison a laptop05:55
Myrttisomewhere?05:55
Seveasok, are you root?05:55
harpisno05:55
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Seveastype: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf (i assume you are using hoary)05:56
harpisno wharty05:56
Seveastype: sudo nano /etc/X11/XFree86-405:56
Mitariohmm, does anyone here know a calendar publishing website?05:56
Seveassorry, close nano05:57
Mitariowhich I can use with evolution05:57
Seveaswrong file :)05:57
Seveastype: sudo nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-405:57
harpisok05:57
Seveasnow locate the line which says Load "v4l"05:57
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Seveasand put a # as first character on that line05:58
harpisw805:58
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Seveasso it says: #   Load   "v4l"05:58
harpisok05:58
projectmayhemhey... seveas i'm still getting key errors... any idea why?05:58
harpisi found it05:58
Seveasprojectmayhem, refresh me pleasem i forgot your problem05:59
Seveasow wait marillat right?05:59
projectmayhemmarillat repo gpg keys05:59
projectmayhemseveas yeah05:59
Seveastype sudo apt-key list05:59
Seveasand paste the output in a private chat05:59
harpisme ?05:59
Seveasharpis, no, that was for projectmayhem05:59
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harpisok05:59
harpisthen i do ?06:00
Seveasharpis, have you put a # as first character on the Load "v4l" line?06:00
harpisno06:00
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Seveasthend o that :)06:00
harpisi should ?06:00
Seveasyes06:00
projectmayhemseveas did that, it listed like 3 entries...06:00
harpisok06:00
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Seveasprojectmayhem, did it list marillat too06:01
harpisit s done06:01
brosioanyone have quake2 on ubuntu x86_64 ??06:01
Seveasharpis, does the line now read: #   Load "v4l"06:01
harpisyes06:01
Seveasok06:01
projectmayhemseveas no, two ubuntu things (cd image automatic signing key and archive automatic signing key)06:01
harpisi just typed #06:01
airoxIs there some way to let Gaim show my offline contacts ?06:01
harpisbefore06:01
vmrochaairox: yes06:01
Seveasharpis, hit <ctrl>O to save the file06:01
syn-ackairox: yes06:02
airoxHow ?06:02
Seveasharpis, and then <ctrl>X to exit06:02
projectmayhemairox did you try preferences and look at plugins and such?06:02
airoxYep.06:02
Seveasprojectmayhem, weird, i'll pm you in a bit, hold on06:02
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jessica_crimsun, Seveas, and others: I have been testing my computers memory. memtest86 did 4 passes without errors, so I interrupted it (should I have waited more passes?). I also followed the advice to upgrade kernel, and installed 2.6.11-1-686. Then, when logging in to gnome, I got a kernel panic (I saw it by quickly switching back to tty1 when trying for the 3rd time). I don't know if this kernel panic is related to the Oopses with 2.6.10-3 to 206:02
jessica_.6.10-5, but I should stress that linux 2.6.8.1 had no problems. I would be glad to hear some advices. Should I report bugzilla bugs?06:02
harpisok06:02
harpisand06:03
Seveasharpis, and reboot :)06:03
airoxWell I mean my MSN contacts that is.06:03
dburloneis anyone expereinced with setting up dual monitors?06:03
[nrx_] i can't get wlan0 working :/06:03
harpisok06:03
airox[nrx_] : Which driver ?06:03
Seveasjessica_, you should only file bugreports when you pinpointed the problem, but it looks like a kernel hickup indeed06:03
harpisthank so much06:03
[nrx_] dwl-g650+06:04
harpisi hope it will run06:04
Seveascan you give a bit more info about what happened just before the panic?06:04
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jessica_Seveas: Of course, I logged in to gnome... I'm afraid that's all :(06:04
[nrx_] airox,  the card's being recognised and lights up when i plug it in, but wlan0 doesn't appear in ifconfig06:04
harpisit doesn't run06:04
airoxWhich module would you need for it no0tic ?06:05
airox[nrx]  ...06:05
Seveasjessica_, does it also happen when booting into rescue mode?06:05
jessica_Seveas: But i'd be glad to provide logs and tests to people who are knowledgable what to do with it06:05
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[nrx_] airox, huh?06:05
jessica_Seveas: I did not try. What kernel options should I use?06:05
airox[nrx_] : Do you know which module is needed to use the wireless card ?06:05
jessica_(I don't have the grub-rescue-entries)06:05
Seveasjessica_, there should be a "rescue mode" entry in the grub menu already06:05
Seveasthat should work06:05
[nrx_] airox, sorry. I'm not grasping what you're asking.. when you say module.. what do you mean? something to do with ndiswrapper or what?06:06
airox[nrx_] : You are using ndiswrapper ?06:06
[nrx_] airox, yes06:06
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[o3] -JooI have a question: I got through th Ubuntu installation without getting to shoose a root password, so now I can't log in as root what shoul I do abut this?06:06
skreetanyone know good divx compression software for linux ? :D06:06
jessica_Seveas: I'm sorry, I don't have them. I have lilo, because grub wouldn't install, which is (I assume) an unrelated problem with the warty installer06:06
airoxHmm ... so you did ndiswrapper -f windows_driver.inf ? And then did modprobe ndiswrapper ?06:07
Seveas[o3] -Joo, by default there is no root password06:07
skreet[o3] -Joo, There is no root.06:07
[nrx_] airox, yes i did06:07
Seveas[o3] -Joo, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo06:07
[o3] -Joohow do I get su rights then?06:07
[nrx_] airox, and isn't it ndiswrapper -i file.inf and not -f?06:07
skreet[o3] -Joo, Sud06:07
skreeterm, sudo06:07
airox[nrx_] : Could be. I've not used it for over 2 weeks now. What does the logs say ?06:08
harpisit doesn't run seveas06:08
[nrx_] airox, says everything's fine, basically :)06:08
Seveasjessica_, the standard ubuntu recovery mode uses "ro single" as options06:08
airox[nrx_] : Ok.06:08
Seveasharpis, what is the error now?06:08
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harpisthe same06:08
Seveashmm06:08
Seveasodd06:08
airox[nrx_] : The logs should say that it has created a device. Is it in there ?06:09
[nrx_] airox, the light comes on to show it's running.. I just don't have a wlan0 anywhere06:09
dburlonedoes anyone know how to set up dual monitors?06:09
garrutnvidia?06:09
Seveasharpis, open the file again with nano06:09
dburloneno, intel onboard and savage (I think)06:09
Seveasis the # still there, so still # Load "v4l"06:09
harpisi m gone see06:09
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garrutdburlone: i think you have to use xinerama then06:10
[nrx_] airox, just noticed something.. ndiswrapper (ndis_init_one_pci:1458): Windows driver couldn't initialize the device06:10
Seveas[nrx_] , then you're screwed06:10
[o3] -Jooskreet, thanks!!06:10
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Seveasi have that exact same error now06:10
airoxSeveas: hehe!06:10
BaptisteGood afternoon06:10
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Seveassomthing is fscked up in there06:10
Seveashave been trying to get it to work for hours..06:10
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airox[nrx_] : Well you are certain you selected the correct .inf file ?06:10
BaptisteI have burned one more time the ubuntu hoary iso06:11
[nrx_] airox, yeah06:11
Seveasif it's a pcmcia card: maybe cardctl insert helps06:11
dburlonegarrut:  yeah, I've been trying to get that set up, it comes at me with some error re: the onboard controller.06:11
Baptisteand the installations has problems06:11
airox[nrx_] : I also couldn't get it working over here, although wlan0 is visible and lights are burning. Just can't set the paramteres with iwconfig. :(06:11
Baptistea bootstrap error06:11
jessica_Seveas: I will try the ro single mode. I think I will open a bugzilla entry anyhow, because it's on my girlfriends computer, and I can't be running tests here every minute of the day... So it might be a good thing to gather some test-suggestions and then run them all at once, to report the results. In any case, thanks for your input.06:11
airoxI need to get myself a pci -> pcmcia converter and a senao card.06:12
Seveasgood luck then jessica_ i hope it will be resolved06:12
jessica_Seveas: Thanks, me too :)06:12
garrutdburlone: i use nvidia's twinview for my dual screen setup, so i don't know much about xinerama..06:12
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harpisAHHH THERE AREN ' anyy file !!06:12
Seveasfile the bug under the "linux" package by the way06:12
Seveasharpis, you must be mistaken :)06:12
harpisi think so06:12
Seveasbecause if the error is the same, the file is still there06:13
Seveasnano /etc/X11/XF86Config-406:13
Seveasmind all capitals06:13
dburlonegarrut: alright, seems that most people use nvidia for duals; that's why I'm having a hard time finding info about this.  Thanks though!06:13
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[nrx_] Seveas, been getting anywhere with it?06:13
Seveas[nrx_] , no not yet06:14
harpisouf they are here06:14
airoxI forget, was the ubuntu installer capable of resizing NTFS ?06:14
Seveasi'm on another machine now (with atheros chip)06:14
Seveas[nrx_] , have you tried the cardctl insert?06:14
harpisthe # is still there06:14
WeirdAl:-( I still haven't managed to come up with some way of resizingmy ext3 partition06:14
Seveasharpis, is there maybe another line tht contains "v4l"06:14
[nrx_] Seveas, comes back with an error saying the device is busy06:15
[nrx_] got something else to try though06:15
Seveasah06:15
[nrx_] so gimme 10 minutes06:15
harpisno06:15
Seveas:)06:15
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sdepperthey is 5.04 a good version?06:17
sdeppertbecause it wont let me do stuff on it because I cant log into root06:17
WeirdAlsdeppert, use sudo06:17
Seveassdeppert, you dont need root06:17
WeirdAlsudo <command> runs it as root06:17
Seveassdeppert, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo06:17
Seveasharpis, i'm out of options then, maybe someone else can help06:17
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sdeppertwell when the computer restarts it says that I need to run this in root06:18
airoxWould be nice to see a bot around here in order to get all faq's answered quickly :)06:18
sid77hi06:18
sdeppertI tried the sudo and it works good06:18
Seveasairox, hi, here i am :)06:18
airoxSeveas: ...06:18
airox:P06:18
sdeppertexcept when I reboot06:18
membreyaairox: pyre is a bot :)06:18
WeirdAlHow can I make my root partition bigger without resorting to programs I have to pay for or crack06:19
sdeppertI tried to reconfigure the xserver for my ati card and now it wont let me06:19
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membreyaPyre: tell airox about root06:19
PyreCan't recall any information associated with 'about root' airox06:19
membreyasee :)06:19
WeirdAlAnyone says QTParted I'll cry.06:19
Seveassdeppert, follow THESE instructions06:19
Seveashttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto/06:19
airoxmembreya: hehe, cool06:19
membreyaPyre: tell airox root access06:20
PyreCan't recall any information associated with 'root access' airox06:20
membreyadamn you06:20
airoxWeirdAl: QTParted06:20
sdeppertthank you I'll give ti a try06:20
membreyastupid bot06:20
Seveasmembreya, i think its sudo06:20
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airoxYay! ;)06:20
Seveaslol airox / WeirdAl06:20
WeirdAl:'-(06:20
harpisthe # is still there06:21
harpisseveas06:21
Myrttiare you playing around with newbies?06:21
Myrttishame on you06:21
airoxWeirdAl: Ubuntu is just like a game. Practice a lot and you will rule!06:21
Seveasharpis, i'm out of options then, maybe someone else can help06:21
WeirdAlIndeed.06:21
Seveasairox, nice one :)06:21
harpisthanks06:21
WeirdAlHowever, I would like to rule with more disk space.06:21
neighborleewhat is fix for ubuntu start errors complaining that /dev/nvidia0 and nvidiactl dont have right permissions ?? ;-) ( it does it everytime)06:21
airoxWeirdAl: QTParted06:21
airox:P06:21
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WeirdAlQTParted won't move it.06:21
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WeirdAlIt will only format it or delete it.06:21
airoxTrue on that.06:21
Seveasneighborlee, setting the right permissions of course :D06:21
neighborleeSeveas, as I say it does it on every reboot06:22
WeirdAlI want to move it and then resize it because the free space is in front of it...06:22
Seveasneighborlee, that's becaus ubuntu uses udev06:22
airoxWeirdAl: There are some boot cd's for partitioning. For example Partition magic and Akronis.06:22
neighborleeSeveas, and ive no idea why it started doing this06:22
WeirdAlAkronis eh? Is that free?06:22
WeirdAl'cause Partition Magic isn't.06:22
Seveasneighborlee, google for permissions+nvidiactl+udev06:22
neighborleeSeveas, its been fine for months until now..I wonder if a 'update' caused it LOL ( ubuntu update I mean)06:22
Seveasi dont have nvidia, so i cant help you further06:23
airoxWell that's true WeirdAl.06:23
neighborleeSeveas, ic np06:23
WeirdAlI would like a free one, like the one that Ubuntu uses when it installs ... but on CD, so that the partition isn't mounted when I try to edit it.06:23
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airoxWeirdAl: I guess knoppix has parted included.06:24
WeirdAlKnoppix is huge :-( I'll give it a go though.06:24
WeirdAlI tried DSL but it couldn't even see my disk.06:25
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WeirdAl:-|06:26
airox:(06:26
WeirdAlIf these patent laws in Europe get passed, there's going to suddenly be a lot of pirates.06:26
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airoxWeirdAl: Having a spare rescue CD is always a good thing. And having one around makes life easier :)06:26
BrazmetalCan Someone help me?06:26
WeirdAlYes, you're right on that.06:26
WeirdAlSo I'm going to get it anyway.06:26
airoxBrazmetal: Offcourse, just tell us your problem.06:27
BrazmetalWhy mounted devices don't apear in computer///: ?06:27
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WeirdAlWhat are the chances of Knoppix being in English when I insall it? :-p06:28
airoxBrazmetal: Where did you mounted them ?06:28
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Brazmetali have some partitions mounted at /media/ but the don't appear in computer///:06:28
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Brazmetalairox06:28
Clarinethi06:28
Seveasih06:28
Clarinetis there an arabic support in Ubuntu ?06:28
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airoxWeirdAl: It's english afaik. Otherwise you can set it when the boot screen appears.06:28
geneo93WeirdAl:  mine english06:28
WeirdAlk cool06:28
airoxBrazmetal: dunno.06:29
airoxhave to go06:29
airoxciao06:29
geneo93Brazmetal:  exactly what mounts06:30
Brazmetalgeneo93: partitions06:30
geneo93of06:30
Brazmetalgeneo93: i have 3 more partition mounted at the boot06:30
WeirdAlTwo hours :rolleyes:06:30
WeirdAlCould watch a movie.06:30
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geneo93Brazmetal:  be more specific06:31
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timmehhi is there any chance someone could help a completely lost newbie06:31
Seveassure06:32
Seveasif you say what you need help with06:32
Timbohttp://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/06:32
Brazmetalgeneo93: how? 3 partitions, 2 ntfs and 1 fat... they are already mounted, but they don't apper in compuiter///:06:32
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geneo93Brazmetal:  did you edit fstab and make mnt points for them06:33
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spadesBrazmetal: view them in the file system and navigate to /media. they wont be listed in computer:/// like windows lists partitions06:33
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timmehSeveas: i had major issues getting x to run with ogl so we turned it off, now ive got some new drivers for my video card and it wont let me install them from within gnome, so the only way i know how to exit is with an init 1 but the installer wont run from a runlevel 1 enviro, and if i switch back to 3 like it says gnome loads up again, so im completely lost and dont know what to do06:34
sdepperthey I tried to reconfigure my xserver and this is the error I got06:34
sdeppertsteven@ubuntu:~$  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:34
sdeppertPassword:06:34
sdeppertdebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process06:34
sdeppertsteven@ubuntu:~$06:34
Brazmetalgen:  yes... they are mounted corretctly06:34
geneo93spades depends on where he put them06:34
spadesgeneo93: i think he wants to see each disk as an actual disk in computer:/// like windows lists it06:34
Brazmetalgeneo93:   yes... they are mounted corretctly06:34
Seveastimmeh, does booting intu "recovery mode" help?06:34
Brazmetalgeneo93:  I can access them at media06:35
timmehSeveas: the driver setup wont run from there, ive already tried06:35
Seveassdeppert, is there a package manager running?06:35
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geneo93hmm i put mine in mnt06:36
sdeppertyeah actually there is and its frozen hold on06:36
Seveastimmeh, try <ctrl><alt><F3> while in gnome, it gives you a standard terminal06:36
Roeycrimsun: hi06:36
Roeyhello all06:36
Roeysmurfix: hi06:36
Seveasin that terminal you can use <alt><F7> to go back to gnome06:37
[nrx_] gah06:37
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Brazmetalgeneo93: any idea?06:39
geneo93what are you looking for if you can see them Brazmetal06:39
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timmehwell that didnt work06:39
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voodoowtf http://www.inboxdollars.com/?r=voodoo665 I'm not going to shit you guys. I actually made money on one of these bullshit read emails website. All i did was sign up for 2 free offers and i got a check in the m06:40
airox...06:40
spadesBrazmetal: computer:/// will show the physical disk, if you have 3 partitions on 1 disk you will need to access them at the mount points06:40
timmehSeveas: it wouldnt run because there was still a windows manager running...and how do i get back to the gui when i do that terminal thing06:40
Seveastimmeh, you get back with <alt><F7>06:41
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Seveasand you can kill the xserver from the terminal :)06:41
Seveassudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop should wotk i believe06:42
Brazmetalspades: yes... but sometimes, they apper in computer:///.... and they dessapper...06:42
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timmehSeveas: lol i had to reboot cause i couldnt figure it out, but ill try that thanks06:42
Roeyairox: how can spammers be klined without any op in here??06:42
Roeyairox: the same thing happened yesterday but they lingered around here for an hour06:42
airoxRoey: magic.06:42
geneo93Brazmetal:  but they are not accessable that way06:42
alindemanRoey: Kline is a server ban06:42
Roeyalindeman: so you need to get ahold of a Freenode staff?06:43
misantroph<---- linux noobie. But ubuntu is far the best ive tryied :D06:43
alindemanRoey: Yah, klines are set by freenode staff06:43
Roeyalindeman: wish they set it yesterday on the 'dcm' person06:43
Roeyalindeman: he was spewing racist banter06:43
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alindemanRoey: Ah, feel free to poke if it happens again06:44
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Roeyalindeman: ok, thanks06:44
sdeppertok I restarted and tried the command again and this is what I got06:44
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sdeppertsteven@ubuntu:~$  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:45
sdeppertPassword:06:45
sdeppert/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed06:45
sdeppertsteven@ubuntu:~$06:45
[nrx_] how do i remove a module from hotplug?06:45
Seveas[nrx_] , remove for now, or prevent form loading?06:45
Seveasthe former: modprobe -r06:45
[nrx_] prevent from loading...06:45
Seveasthe latter: add it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist06:45
[nrx_] lsmod gives acx_pci06:45
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[nrx_] rmmod acx_pci removes it06:45
[nrx_] but if i instert the car again..06:45
[nrx_] it appears back in lsmod06:46
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dutchi got a qestion about X11 and screen resolutions06:47
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dutchxll shows 1280x1024...but, I can't get it to run in that size06:48
dutchany help ?06:48
spadesdutch: open a terminal and type xrandr and see if it lists it06:48
pe7erhm. this is strange: "python-qt3: Depends: python2.4-qt3 but it is not going to be installed" ==> depends python2.4-sip4-qt3 >= 4.01, python2.4-sip4-qt3 < 4.2. available in hoary is 4.2.1-ubuntu2. there is a logic but it is broken. any ideas? should i submit this somewhere? (where?) and there still is python2.4-sip-qt3, can i force usage of that package by pthon-qt3 somehow?06:48
dutchbest spades: nope, not there06:49
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spadesdutch: reconfigure it and make sure its added06:49
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Seveaspe7er, are you trying to install/upgrade or dist-upgrade?06:50
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Brunellushappy easter.06:50
dutchspades: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ?06:50
spadesyea06:50
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dutchspades: ok, thanks a lot..06:50
BrunellusI'm running gphoto on warty;  how can I update the camera drivers06:50
dutchbrb06:50
Brunellusmy camera isn't found06:50
spadesnp, once its done, run xrandr again and see if its there06:50
pe7erSeveas, plain install haven't had it installed before06:50
timmehSeveas: ok that actually worked, the installer ran, but its saying there is no precompiler kernel interface for my kernel or something like that and it said that it couldnt find a source tree....does that mean i need to d/l the source (if thats possible)06:51
dutchspades: says xserver is broken or not fully installed..06:52
Brunellusugh.06:52
Seveastimmeh, usually linux-headers-`uname -r`-686 (or k7, or ppc, depends on your machine) will do06:52
spadesdutch: check the forums or the wiki, i never encounterd that before06:52
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dutchok, just saw that here on the screen just a few minutes ago...checking06:53
vafnordCan anyone help me get an ATI Rage 128 Pro working?06:53
sigdualm: apt-get -f your Xserver06:53
sig-f, --fix-broken06:54
hgoesmcan someone tell me a good cd burn prog for gnonme undet ubuntu??? (GUI plz)06:54
sighgoesm: GnomeBaker06:54
hgoesmis it a official package06:54
sighttp://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/06:55
sigit is going to be06:55
pe7erhgpesm: nautilus: burn:// also gnomebaker (should be available at the repos soon)06:55
Seveasdutch apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg06:55
hgoesmok thz06:55
sigSeveas: apt-get -f xserver-org will work as well06:55
sighe won't have to redownload all with -f06:55
Seveasdutch apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xfree86 on warty06:55
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blackmoonlamont: hi...06:57
vafnordIs fglrx for all ati cards or just radeon?06:57
jinxhey guys quick question: is there any reason why i should switch from debian sarge to ubuntu06:57
sigjinx: no06:57
dutchSeveas: okay, did that, but it said something about "failed to infer keyboard layout from layout/lang"06:57
pe7erSeveas, no idea about python-qt3? do you have any clue where i could go with it? (sorry for bad grammar, am not a native speaker)06:57
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blackmoonlamont: i'm that one with a problems with postfix...06:57
black_nightmareany of you mind telling me what GnomeMeeting is?06:58
jinxsig: thanks he he06:58
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airoxblack_nightmare: like netmeeting for windows.06:58
black_nightmareoh ic airox...kinda like a private messenger?06:58
Seveasblackmoon, is the problem invoke-rc.d: initscript postfix, action "start" failed.06:58
Seveasdpkg: error processing postfix (--configure):06:58
Seveas subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 106:58
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airoxblack_nightmare: yeah.06:59
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black_nightmarehm I see06:59
dutchwell, looks like time to use that cd again...06:59
dutchSeveas: thanks for the help :)06:59
sigdutch: did you do what I said?06:59
vafnordCan anyone help me get an ATI Rage 128 Pro working?06:59
black_nightmare'Terminal Server Client' = online terminal or alas telnet I take it?06:59
sigapt-get -f thosebrokepackages07:00
airoxblack_nightmare: It's client for RDP and VNC and some others ...07:00
dutchsig: yeah, but same result...xserver broken or not installed correctly07:00
black_nightmareahh ok07:00
sigdutch: did you alter your x conf/07:00
airoxblack_nightmare: Very usefull if you have windows xp or 2003 machines to manage.07:00
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airoxOr maybe even linux.07:00
sigor use non repo packages?07:00
black_nightmareeh ok you telling me now airox :)07:01
black_nightmareis there like any telnet-or-similar for ubuntu? (apt-get or not too)07:01
airoxblack_nightmare: just telnet ? :)07:01
dutchsig:  I had 1280x1024 working yesterday but changed to 1024x768 while running xbitchx and now,07:01
Guilmonheh heh heh07:01
blackmoonSeveas: mmm... i don't remenber the right error message :-(07:01
airoxblack_nightmare: Or do you mean a telnet server ?07:01
airoxblack_nightmare: Otherwise check out openssh.07:01
dutchcan't get it back..it shows in X11/XF86Config-407:02
airoxblack_nightmare: www.openssh.org (from the openbsd guys)07:02
airoxblack_nightmare: apt-get install openssh-server (or openssh-client)07:02
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blackmoonSeveas: the problem appear only with postifix 2.1.5-9ubuntu307:03
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neighborleeis it known issue ( ubuntu fault or kde ?) that upon installing kubuntu that /dev/dsp has wrong  permissions ?07:03
black_nightmarejust want to be able to use telnet places07:03
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black_nightmaresuch as telnet://furry.org etc etc07:03
airoxblack_nightmare: then just use telnet07:03
foltahey, does anyone know how to configure a ralink rt2500 wireless card on amd64?07:03
blackmoonSeveas: now i run postifix 2.1.5-9ubuntu1 and i don't have strange errors...07:03
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sigDutchy: apt-get --purge remove xbitchx07:04
black_nightmarehmm so 'apt-get telnet' ?07:04
airoxblack_nightmare: I guess it's already there ...07:04
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black_nightmarehmm...let me try 'run program' then....07:05
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airoxsheeesh bad hardware sucks big time07:05
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delltonyok something i don't get why doesn't hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc work working by meaning it says operation permission denied i have tried it with sudo and i have even tried it as root same error and dma is 0 on my dvd drive and i need it to change to 1 and i know the drive supports it cause i use to do it all the time in warty07:06
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black_nightmarehmm tried 'run programs' then typed in 'telnet'07:07
black_nightmareno results at all :|07:07
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airoxblack_nightmare: Just startup a terminal.07:08
airoxblack_nightmare: Then try telnet. It will work.07:08
black_nightmareah duh...ty :)07:08
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paoloHi guys! Happy Easter to all of you! I have just installed Ubuntu on a pc that is behind a ip masquerader. I set the static ip, and I gave the correct host and gateway, but the ubuntu machine doesn't see beyond the gateway (ping x.y.z.t. doesn't get response). Any hint? Thank you!07:08
black_nightmarebye now ;)07:09
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airoxpaolo: Open a terminal and show us the 'route' output. Please use a pastebin.07:10
delltonyanyone?07:10
SavantHullo all :)07:10
PacoBCNweird, last apache updates force me to delete php4 and mysql packages...07:10
djpvery keen here to stick with Richard Stallman's Four Freedoms philosophy, but also want to be able to view xvid files. Is this in any way possible, without compromising?07:10
Baptisteis it possible to force the installation of ubuntu?07:10
Savantthat is wierd PacoBCN07:10
PacoBCNSavant, did you see it too?07:10
BaptisteOnce more time I've this problem07:10
Savantill try it now PacoBCN07:11
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BaptisteI can't install ubuntu hoary07:11
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pe7erBaptiste, how, why?07:11
Savantwhat stops you Baptiste ?07:11
Baptistean error07:11
Baptistethis error07:11
PacoBCNSavant, apache2-mpm-prefork, libapache2-mod-php4 and php4-mysql have to be uninstalled...07:11
Baptistehttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-17860.html07:11
Baptisteon hoary07:12
Baptistewhen the installation of the base system rises 27 %07:12
Savantand this is when you upgrade apache2, not apache right?07:12
PacoBCNSavant, apache2, correct07:12
paoloairox: where is the pastebin?07:13
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djpvery keen here to stick with Richard Stallman's Four Freedoms philosophy, but also want to be able to view xvid files. Is this in any way possible, without compromising?07:13
PacoBCNSavant, but there is also an update of apache2-mpm-prefork :)07:13
Baptisteit stops and tells me this "Debootstrap error vouldn't retrieve ubuntu-keyring"07:13
airoxpaolo: www.pastebin.com07:13
PacoBCNSavant, which is one of the packs to delete07:13
Baptistethe url well underlines that it is not a problem of the cd07:14
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airoxAm I able to resize NTFS in the hoary installation ?07:14
Baptisteso I would like to force the installation07:14
pe7erdjp: i don't know about stallman's "four freedoms philosophy" (never read about it) but i guess you'd have to choose theora instead of xvid. if its possible i'd like to know it aswell because i know some folks who'd like to release a fine agitprop short movie but don't because xvid isn't truely 'free'.07:15
Savanthmmm it didnt make be do it PacoBCN07:15
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Savantupgraded as usual...07:15
PacoBCNSavant, weird07:15
PacoBCNok, I'll upgrade too07:15
Baptisteis it possible to write something to force the installation07:15
Baptistedespite some errors07:15
Baptistewhich don't exist07:16
paulproteusdjp: XViD is GPL.07:16
miguezhave Ubuntu running on brand new machine, wanna install Windows XP now, with dua booting capability.  What's the word?07:16
miguezhave QTParted installed, btw, just in case I need it07:16
Savantdo you maybe have an extra repository that might host apache2?07:16
paulproteusdjp: VLC, mplayer, xine should be able to play it out of the box.07:16
pe7erpaulproteus, but there are patent issues with the format, aren't they?07:16
paulproteusmiguez: It'll be harder to make it work in that direction.07:16
pe7er*there07:16
SavantPacoBCN, do you maybe have an extra repository that might host apache2?07:17
paulproteuspe7er: In the US, there may be; and I am in the US.  I haven't been following that carefully.07:17
miguezpaulproteus:  Yeah, I know, easier if WIndows was already in, but is it possible?07:17
PacoBCNSavant, I think I solved it07:17
paulproteusIn general, Debian doesn't ship patent-encumbered software, so if it's in the main Debian archives, then it's fine.07:17
SeveasSavant, apache2 is in ubuntu main07:17
PacoBCNSavant, after synaptic marked it as pack to delete I forced it to upgrade it again07:17
PacoBCNSavant, seems to have worked so far07:17
airoxmiguez: Yep, it's possible. Make a free partition, install windows xp on that partition. Then use a rescue disk to get into the linux partition. Alter the grub configuration then do update-grub.07:17
PacoBCNSavant, yes, it's all right07:18
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SavantPacoBCN, awesome07:18
paulproteusmiguez: It will be possible.07:18
djppaulproteus: excellent, thanks. so no need for codecs then? totem tries to play xvid, but only playsback sound, the screen remains black...07:18
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miguezairox: can i use QTParted to make a free partition?  never used it before, been looking around, didn't ave much success07:18
paulproteusdjp: totem-xine should handle it fine.  Have you tried it?07:19
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vmrochamiguez, yes, you can07:19
blueyedIs it possible to have different language settings per user?07:19
paulproteusblueyed: In fact, Hoary lets you pick a language on login.07:20
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miguezvmrocha, mind telling me the steps?07:20
airoxpaulproteus: Good idea.07:20
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blueyedpaulproteus, great.. I'm testing the live preview, so I did not see this (yet).07:20
sdepperthey can someone help me on here please?07:20
Myrttisdeppert: not if you don't ask first07:21
Dr_Willissdeppert,   and the issue is?07:21
Myrttino telepathics yet07:21
paoloairox: I posted the route output in the pastebin07:21
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sdepperthere I'll show you hold on07:21
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a_monkeycan anybody please tell me if they're using an apple eMac with ubuntu?07:21
Savantthe answer to your problem sdeppert is mittens07:22
Dr_Willisa_mason,  useing an imac dv... but no emac07:22
sdeppertmittens lol07:22
pe7erany ideas about those weired python-qt3 dependencies i've been asking about? if it is in fact a problem not related to my usage i'd like to report it. but then again i've never done it before, so i could need a pointing finger.07:22
Savantmittens always help07:22
djppaulproteus: that could be my other alternative to xine-gui. really wanted to keep the gstreamer functionality of totem if i could though. decisions, decisions ... ;)07:22
swat42572hello everyone07:22
a_monkeyhm07:22
sdeppert/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed07:22
sdeppertsteven@ubuntu:~$07:22
sdepperttheres my problem07:23
blueyedCan I login as another user without logging of?07:23
a_monkeyi heard ubuntu detects apple displays well07:23
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Baptisteno solutions?07:23
Dr_Willisa_mason,  well my little imac has evrhting shfted over.. and its an annoyance. :P but i blame apple for that.07:23
paulproteusblueyed: There's a "New Login" thing in the menus that's relevant to you.07:23
swat42572I'm attempting to install hoary on an imac 266 with osx on it-dual boot, disk repartitioned, the whole nine yards07:23
a_monkeywhat app does it use to detect the tech specs of monitors?07:23
swat42572anyway, after the first stage on installation, when my computer reboots, it hangs on a white screen07:24
a_monkeyor do you select your monitor from a list?07:24
blueyedpaulproteus, yes with Applications / system tools. Thanks.07:24
hgoesmdo someone know if mplayer will get an official ubuntu packages?07:24
pe7era_monkey, a google for your monitor's tech specs will propably help07:24
a_monkeype7er: i tried that many a time07:24
a_monkeype7er: apple doesn't release that info for its montors :(07:25
a_monkeyso i though maybe ubuntu used some nifty tool to detect the tech specs07:25
sdeppertsteven@ubuntu:~$07:25
pe7era_monkey what kind of brand is it? i don't think you can detect it with software without the possibility of damaging it (if pnp doesn't do it)07:25
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pe7era_monkey: apple ok07:26
a_monkeype7er: yeh07:26
Savantsdeppert, read the first few lines of /etc/xorg.conf07:26
Savantits tell you what to do07:26
dockanei would like to install the vlc media player .. what is the best way to do that ? (apt-cache search vlc gives no result)07:27
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Roeyhi all.07:27
pe7erdockane: it's in the uni- or multiverse i guess07:27
a_monkeype7er: pnp? what's pnp?07:27
delltonyok something i don't get why doesn't hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc work working by meaning it says operation permission denied i have tried it with sudo and i have even tried it as root same error and dma is 0 on my dvd drive and i need it to change to 1 and i know the drive supports it cause i use to do it all the time in warty07:27
pe7era_monkey plug and play07:27
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pe7erdockane: have you enabled them? go to synaptic, select 'settings' > 'repositories' > 'add' and mark all checkboxes, apply07:28
Savant/etc/X11/xorg.conf rather07:28
a_monkeype7er: is that an app i can use?07:28
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coreDumped69anybody able to help? I'm helping a friend set up ubuntu. he's got and onboard i810 and a pci savage, the savage being the primary display. We're trying to get xinerama working across to the i810 but x locks up. I think it may be related to the kernel msg "[drm:i810]  Cannot initialize agpgart module"...07:28
pe7era_monkey specification. i don't know any about it except that it used to ruin my computing experience some time in the nineties :)07:29
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coreDumped69works fine with one display, but trying to enable the 2nd makes everything go bad07:29
BrazmetalHow to make a hidden folder?07:29
Brazmetalin gonme?07:29
Dr_Willisname it .whatever07:30
pe7era_monkey there is perhaps an utility that reads it out, but i'd wonder if it wasn't implemented already,07:30
Dr_Willisor just fireup a terminal real fast. :P07:30
kakaduhello07:30
Brazmetaljust like kde?07:30
kakaduI just try to get RealPlayer working07:30
paoloairox: did you see the pastebin?07:30
kakaducan anybody help me?07:30
Dr_Willisthe idea of a 'hidden'  directory - is not related to gnome or kde. :P its  just how the programs see files with . at the start of the names07:30
pe7era_monkey, there have have to be some kind of specifications of apple parts somewhere, if not in their knowledge base then somewhere else on the list. afaik apple hardware is very well documented07:31
pe7er*in the world not on the list07:31
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pe7erat least its kinda standartized07:31
RoeyI compiled a debian kernel (ubuntu technically) with make-kpkg --initrd, and then installed its deb.  On bootup it tells me "raid1 module not found" (despite the fact that I compiled it INTO the kernel, along with XFS)07:32
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Dr_WillisHmm.. apple hardware is so well documented tht the BeOS guys had to stop supporting it... (but that was like 3+ years ago)07:33
FackamatoRoey: maybe it's trying to load the raid1 module, which doesn't exist, since it's in the kernel. Or it HAS to be in module format, and is unsupported while compiled in kernel?07:33
Chipzzdoes anyone know in what package the gaim icon theme is?07:34
bur[n] erChipzz: in gaim?07:34
Chipzzbur[n] er: obviously not or I wouldn't be asking07:34
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ChipzzI'm not a retard :P07:34
RoeyFackamato: do you know this for a fact?07:35
bur[n] ersorry Chipzz ;)  maybe just download those icons from the gaim site?07:35
geneo93usr/share/app07:35
Ubabeheh me neither, sad how news to the contrary keeps prooving me wrong! :P07:35
bur[n] erapt-cache search gaim shows nothing about icons :)07:35
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mellohey fellas, how does one undo the root requirement for a folder07:36
Chipzzbur[n] er: they should be in a package07:36
noctussalut07:36
UbabeI have a dilemma if i decide to take my PowerPC G3 laptop around without my 2 button mouse07:36
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scizzoChipzz: ummm?07:36
Ubabefor some reason Ubuntu PPC doesnt support left click via CTRL-click07:37
Ubabeunless i need to install something else...?07:37
scizzoChipzz: what icon exactly?07:37
Dr_Williswouldent that be an X/windowmanager issue?07:37
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UbabeDr_willis, how so?07:37
cornholiothere is not operators here ?07:37
cornholio:O07:37
scizzoChipzz: the main icon comes with the gaim packages or are you looking for gaim-data?07:37
ChipzzHEH?07:37
Dr_WillisI think ive used ctrl-click under yellow dog.. but i cant recall if that was kde or gnome i was useing at th time07:38
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sdeppertdoes anyone know anything about the xorg configuration file07:38
Chipzzwhen I clicked on the smiley button a few minutes ago it said something like "This smiley theme contains no icons"07:38
paolo Hi guys! Happy Easter to all of you! I have just installed Ubuntu on a pc that is behind a ip masquerader. I set the static ip, and I gave the correct host and gateway, but the ubuntu machine doesn't see beyond the gateway (ping x.y.z.t. doesn't get response). The route output is at  http://www.pastebin.com/263379 . Any hint? Thank you!07:38
bur[n] erDr_Willis: ctrl+click for what?07:38
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Chipzzscizzo: I then went into preferences, selected the same icon theme, and now it works??07:38
Ubabewell im making do with my 2 button macally with detected staright away no dramas :)07:38
plagerismI am using Ubuntus amd64 port, and I am attempting to reinstall ia32-libs.07:39
scizzoChipzz: thanks...now you said smiley icon theme07:39
geneo93Chipzz: /usr/share/pixmaps/gaim/icons07:39
scizzoChipzz: have you installed a icon theme or something?07:39
dockanepe7er  : thnx for the hints. synaptic warsn that dependencies are unsolved. how do i get those libraries installed ?07:39
plagerismbut I get this error message "error creating symbolic link `./usr/lib32/libGL.so.1`: No Such file or directory"07:40
plagerismHow would I track down whats going on07:40
scizzoChipzz: do you want to use a new smiley theme or what exactly is going on?07:40
Chipzzscizzo: default install07:40
Chipzzsmiley theme does NOT work07:40
Dr_Willisbur[n] er,  to emulate the right mouse button07:40
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Roeyplagerism: *plagiarism.07:41
Dr_WillisI hear apple may come out with a 2 button mouse! wow. :P07:41
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ChipzzI go into preferences, select the smiley theme which is *ALLREADY* selected again07:41
Chipzzsmiley themes work07:41
dutchjeeeze Ohms, give me a break...07:41
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pe7erdockane, which exactly?07:41
dutchsorry, wrong channel07:41
scizzoChipzz: what protocol are you trying to use the theme with?07:41
plagerismAnyone have any ideas how would I go about finding out whats going wrong?? I tried extracting the control files from the deb package, but didnt find anything that could help me07:41
Chipzzscizzo: MSN, but I don't think it matters07:42
plagerismthe file /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 exists07:42
sdeppertI opened my xorg.conf file and it was empty nothing in it at all does anyone know whats wrong?07:42
Chipzzscizzo: btw, are you the maintainer of gaim by coincidence?07:42
foltadoes anyone know how to go about installing a driver for a wlan card?07:42
plagerismAnyone have any ideas??07:43
scizzoChipzz: no...07:43
scizzoChipzz: does that matter?07:43
Chipzzscizzo: no07:43
scizzo:)07:43
Chipzzbut I wanted to ask him to include a patch07:43
pe7erDr_Willis, i can only guess but i'd think its because they haven't recieved any support by apple? but i'd wonder if there wasn't some brave volounteer out for every piece of hardware they put out.07:43
Dr_Willissdeppert,  perhaps the user cant read the file.07:43
MyrttiWTF? part of my mp3:s have changed themselves to be opened on totem?07:44
scizzoChipzz: well I am confused to why the smileys are gone07:44
Dr_Willispe7er,  i think that gnome and kde are both configurable to remap a ctrl-click to do what you want.07:44
Myrttiftlg07:44
plagerismjoin #debian07:44
Chipzzscizzo: me too07:44
foltai've found this link: http://www.flamingspork.com/blog/?p=338 but the line with /boot in doesn't have the right file there07:44
dockanepe7er, dbus-1 / libgcc1 /  libogg0 / wxvlc. may i query you the whole message ?07:44
Dr_Willispe7er, or at least I seem to recall a disscussion about it once07:44
scizzoChipzz: nothing changes if you restart gaim?07:45
Dr_Willissdeppert,  try  'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and 'sudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf'07:45
pe7erDr_Willis: hm. you must confuse something, i don't have any problems with my powerbook atm since its broke *sniff*07:45
Chipzzscizzo: it's fixed now07:45
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Chipzzscizzo: after selecting the smiley theme in gaim preferences07:45
Chipzzdidn't have to restart gaim at all07:46
Dr_Willispe7er,  lol.. well SOMEONE was complaingig about ther imac and its 1 button mouse under ubuntu07:46
PacoBCNtoo bad you can't use Skype with ESD07:46
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pe7erdockane, sure why not, i'll see if it makes sense to me07:46
dockanepe7er, its german07:47
pe7erdockane, that's what i am aswell07:47
pe7erdockane, np, just send it to me or post it at some pastebin07:47
Myrttiffs, this is ridiculous07:47
geneo93no this is debian07:48
MyrttiFFS. I want my music back to rhythmbox07:48
Myrtti/me starts to lose it07:48
UbabeAnyone here ever used LinuxPPC on a Macintosh and had a right click issue?07:49
geneo93f1207:49
scizzoMyrtti: what happened then?07:50
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Myrttiscizzo: part of my mp3's have mysteriously chosen that they don't want to be opened in rhythmbox but in totem07:51
Ubabegeneo93!!! you genius!!07:51
Ubabe:D07:52
MyrttiI have no idea where this s**t originates from07:52
Dr_WillisMyrtti,  lol.. perhaps some are .mp3 and others are .MP3 ?07:52
scizzoMyrtti: then what does rhythmbox tell you about the files?07:52
geneo93na just listen to other ppls problems till i get mine solved07:52
Ubabeheh geneo93, you a Mac user??07:53
geneo93no never had one Ubabe07:53
Ubabeheh dont be ashamed to answer, but dont if you feel itll make you discriminated ;)07:53
Ubabeaha07:53
Ubabeive installed Ubuntu PPC and Ubuntu for PC withg the least amiunt of fuss07:53
geneo93i have a dual p307:54
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Ubabei cannot believe its been this simple07:54
Mitariodoes anyone know a webdav installing tutorial for apache?07:54
Myrttithis baffles me totally07:54
UbabeUbuntu rocks :)07:54
Myrttilet me see07:54
Brazmetaljust a question07:54
geneo93Ubabe:  i got kde 3.4 and i love it07:54
BrazmetalIs there any way to auto-update the gnome menu when I install a new application?07:55
Brazmetalgeneo93: I used Kubuntu with kde 3.4 and nothing works well07:56
Dr_WillisBrazmetal,  Oh?  ive had no issues.07:56
[nrx_] i got wlan working07:56
[nrx_] :)07:56
geneo93Brazmetal:  i used ubuntu as base then installed kde07:56
ApesMaI changed /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to add "alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1" and "alias snd-card-1 snd-via82xx", but that seems not to have sufficed to make the emu10k1 board (a SoundBlaster Live) sound card 0. Is there anything I can do other than disable the on-mobo sound in the BIOS?07:56
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foltanrx_, cool, what card?07:57
=== jroes installed a new video card, how can I reconfigure X?
[nrx_] dwl-g650+ xtreme07:57
JDahlfolta, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:57
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zenroxjroes,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:57
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Myrttiscizzo: it doesn't find them with the search at all07:58
Brazmetalgeneo93: Is there any way to auto-update the gnome menu when I install a new application?07:58
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scizzoMyrtti: do they have weird characters like the swedish characters  ?07:58
Dr_Willisactually from what ive seen the menu does auto-update.07:58
jroesis there any info on the dpkg-* commands?07:58
MyrttiBrazmetal: depending on if it has a .desktop file or not, it should appear on the panel immediately07:58
jroesthanks zenrox, by the way07:58
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Myrttiscizzo: no, not all of them07:59
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Myrttinot that I know of07:59
spadesjroes: dpkg --help07:59
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jroesthanks spades :)07:59
geneo93ahh gnomes menu editer is borked in hoary there is a fix though07:59
cornholiohey.. somebody uses dlink-g520+ wireless card under hoary ???07:59
zenroxjroes,  n/p07:59
jroesyikes07:59
jroesI started xserver-xorg reconfigure07:59
jroesand I'm getting powernow-k8: failing targ, change pending bit set08:00
jroes:X08:00
BrazmetalMyrtti: when I install through apt-get ? in KDE the shortcut goes automatically to the menu08:00
Myrttioh no, no no, if this is an issue of locales, nooooo, I just managed to get my locales semiright today08:00
MyrttiBrazmetal: yes08:00
jroesI don't think Linux is liking my new athlon64 very much, it already thinks it's a 1000mhz when it's a 2800+, 1.8ghz08:00
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foltacould someone help me with my card? it's rt2500 based, it's supposed to have drivers but i don't knopw how to install them08:00
foltai'm using amd64 btw08:00
UbabeHers a question: if resized a partition to create a new one, like using a tool like PQMAGIC or something like that, will Ubuntu fail to boot or do something crazy like that??08:00
Brazmetalgeneo93: whre?08:00
pe7ergeneo93: an easy way to edit menus in gnome menus hoary? please enlighten us! :)08:00
pe7er(or me, rather)08:00
geneo93ubuntu forums08:01
pe7erups nasty grammar sorry08:01
BrazmetalMyrtti: but they don' go to the menu when I install through apt-get...08:01
pe7ergeneo93: i hate forums. but... yes. i'm an ignorant fool. will check08:01
geneo93Brazmetal:  i dont use gnome08:01
MyrttiBrazmetal: then they don't have .desktop-file08:02
Brazmetal:I08:02
FloridaJinHello, is there a way to manually set the target for a base installation? For some background, I'm trying to install on a nonstandard disk (not a partitionable one) so I want to skip partitioning but don't know how. (o make things worse, I'm using a text install.)08:02
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Br34chHello . . . I had been banging my head against the monitor for the past 10 days . . . because I couldn't get php4 to work with apache2. Now I just tried uninstalling libapache2-mod-php, and it gave me a message "This module is already disabled, or does not exist!" Obviously it once existed . . . but any ideas on how I can maybe enable it? any hints would be great . . .08:04
Br34ch!ping08:05
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jroeshmm, dpkg didn't ask me this many questions when I first set up X, and it worked very quickly and easily with the crappy onboard video I had... now that it's asked me more questions, it won't start :P08:05
Br34ch!ping08:06
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CB201hey guys08:06
CB201can someone tell me how to *write* to my windows partition?08:07
FloridaJinWhat's the filesystem?08:07
CB201what do you mean?08:07
FloridaJinNTFS? FAT?08:07
CB201oh08:07
CB201NTFS08:07
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FloridaJinHmm. I'm pretty sure that support is still pretty experimental08:08
CB201okay08:08
geneo93its posible but not recomended08:08
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FloridaJinWrite support is dangerous last I heard, and you have to compile a custom kernel08:08
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mellohey fellas, how does one undo the root requirement for a folder?08:08
CB201I tried edting fstab but it's still just read-only08:09
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Br34chDelete it, and make it with regular user? :p08:09
edulixhi !08:09
Br34chActually, don't follow anything I saw . . . I'm a lynx nub08:09
FloridaJinYeah, you have to enable support in the kernel08:09
Br34chsay*08:09
edulixwhy I cannot find jedit in the repositories ?08:09
spadesgedit08:09
FloridaJinAnd it probably isn't a good idea if you aren't testing...08:09
jroeshaha, I should have given it better sync ranges for my monitor, it looks like it's going to explode08:10
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edulixspades: Jedit08:10
spadesedulix unless you mean jed08:10
edulix:P08:10
spadesjed: Editor for programmers. (textmode version)08:10
geneo93mello:  chown -R 777 (folder)08:10
FloridaJinAnyone know of a way to manually set/mount a target disk for installation?08:10
zenroxspades, also nano08:10
FloridaJin(Gotta skip partitioning in the install dialogue.. long story.. using text install)08:11
spadeszenrox: i use nano, but edulix is looking for something else08:11
mellogeneo93, bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('08:11
zeedogeneo93: that was nowhere near right or advisable08:11
LathiatAnyone alive that can test soemthign out for me08:11
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melloyeah08:11
mellonevermind.08:11
mellothat was my bad, copy/paste =] 08:11
geneo93hey thats what i use all the timeeeeeeee08:11
Ubabegeneo93: any idea if any Linux x86 programs could run on my mac, or would I need to find a seperate Linux PPC install?08:11
cornholiohey.. somebody uses dlink-g520+ wireless card under hoary ???08:12
zeedogeneo93: be simplerto change ownership, and would definitely be more secure08:12
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mellothanks08:12
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mjrUbabe, some linux/x86 programs might run under linux/ppc with qemu (google for it)08:12
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CB201'nother question08:13
[nrx_] hm08:13
Ubabeqemu? yup google it i will...08:13
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bit0hi!, how could i configure java in openoffice1.9.76-0ubuntu?08:13
Guilmonqemu has an acceleration port08:13
Cubeyhiyo08:13
geneo93Ubabe:  there should be more ppc apps in universe08:13
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CB201how do I alter the time it takes for Linux to go into sleep mode08:13
CB201?08:14
Cubeywhat file do you edit for modules that boot upon boot? Typically it's /etc/rc.d/rc.modules but that file doesn't seem to exist... :\08:14
FloridaJinOk, does anyone even know that directory on the tree the install target is mounted to?08:14
Cubeyto load upon boot*08:14
PacoBCNI'm experiencing a very bad problem. SOme times, when I play Enemy Territory my computer shuts down, I think due to high temperature.08:14
djpquick clear up here. if i install xine-gui on a vanilla ubuntu install, will i be able to watch xvid files?08:14
PacoBCNIt's a laptop08:14
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spadesCubey: /etc/modules08:14
mjrdjp, at least on my amd64 ubuntu I have been able to do that08:15
mjrdjp, also with totem-xine08:15
Cubeyspades: ah. thanks. i'll do that and see08:15
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djpmjy: which would you recommend xine-gui or totem-xine?08:16
PacoBCNis there a way to avoid my laptop to over heat?08:16
mjrdjp, totem-xine has a nicer GUI in my opinion, and integrates better with gnome, so that08:17
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CubeyI'm used to using slackware. ;) An org. i'm volunteering with, who accepts dontaed computers and then repairs them and offers low income people to get one free if they complete their (free) computer course... and everything gets linux installed on 'em. so i need to get used to ubuntu since that's one distro that's used08:17
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djpmjr: do i still need to gstreamer0.8-plugins installed for mozplugger compatibility if i install totem-xine?08:17
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mjrdjp, I dunno about mozplugger or the relation to totem, but if you install it, at least totem won't use gstreamer anymore08:18
Ubabegeneo93: i did a read up on qemu and it keeps saying that PowerPC processor development is in progress, hrm08:18
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Ubabeim imagining things could really screw up if im not careful, yeah?08:19
geneo93Ubabe:  i would enable all the repositories in synaptic and see whats there08:19
djpmjr: ok, thanks08:19
mjrUbabe, hmh, at least the status page says that PPC hosts are "OK"08:19
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Ubabemrj so i read yeah08:20
Ubabeanyway i gotta reboot, catch you fellas later :)08:20
Br34chI'll give a kiss to whoever can help me . . . I tried php4 to work with apache2 . . . couldn't, upon removal, I just got the message "This module was disabled, or never existed!" It existed . . . I've installed the file (libapache2-mod-php4) again . . . can someone give me a hint on how I can perhaps re-enabled it?08:21
Cubeyspades: ah yes, i edited that earlier but wasn't sure if it was right, but it was. :)08:21
Cubeynow to see if i can get the sound working, hmm..08:23
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Bazzi-Br34ch for php, I suggest compiling it yourself.08:24
foltai'm trying to install ndiswrapper, and i have an amd-64 kernel, but that kernel doesn't have a linux-source-(version) package in the repository, do i need to switch to a different kernel and then do the patch?08:25
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Bazzi-folta did you add the universe repos?08:25
mjrfolta, you can't, to the best of my knowledge, run 32-bit ndis drivers with ndiswrapper on amd6408:26
mjr(when using an amd64 kernel, that is)08:26
Bazzi-oh yeah, that, too08:26
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bodhihi08:27
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bodhii am trying to use gnokii, but  can connect, anyone can help me?08:27
foltai added universe, yeah. and it says that as of v1.0 64 bit drivers are supported08:28
CubeyLOL that was easy enough. "modprobe sb" ;P08:28
Br34chBazzi-: I'm a nub . . . to Linux as well, compiling it myself . . . how much time will it take, and how much knowledge does it require on my part?08:28
mjrfolta, ok then08:28
Bazzi-Br34ch so I take it you never compiled anything yet?08:28
jas_MHzwhat is the xwindows config file called ??08:28
mjrjas_MHz, /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 for Warty, xorg.conf for Hoary08:29
Br34chBazzi: Nope08:29
Br34chBazzi: It has only been a few days since I've started to know Linux08:29
Bazzi-mmmmh :)08:30
jas_MHzw00t - Hoary no hassle setup on amd64 nforce3 & nvidia5600 - Sweet thx Ubuntu Gods08:30
Cubeyhmmm. totem movie player doesn't even work :X it just freezes up08:30
Bazzi-still you should better learn that now or never08:30
Roeya pox on the Ubuntu gods!08:30
zenroxBazzi,  is right08:30
Roeythey hath forsaken me!08:30
Br34chBazzi-: Any helpful directions, links, you can push me to? :s08:30
Bazzi-Br34ch get the build-essential package, then the php source code from php.net/downloads and do a ./configure08:30
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Bazzi-from that point we can help you here easily08:31
zenroxyep08:31
Br34chDid you just tell me what do do? o.008:31
Br34chI mean08:31
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tidalwav1So yeah...I am STILL having wireless problems08:31
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zenroxBr34ch, do a sudo apt-get build-essential08:31
Seveastidalwav1, who hasn't :)08:31
Br34chThose were short directions . . . I am thankful for the help, but I've been kicked around enough that I'd rather get big docs now :x08:31
tidalwav1I was able to get my wireless working using linux-wlan-ng, but I have to run a shell script every time I want to use the net.08:32
SeveasBr34ch, if you want to compile anything, you need build-essential, it is exactly what the name suggests it is :)08:32
tidalwav1I was able to use ndiswrapper, as well, but for some reason when the ndiswrapper module is loaded my keyboard becomes messed up08:32
tidalwav1so I'm kind of stuck08:32
Br34chBut okies, I'll do as you say . . . I hope it really is as short as you guys have said08:32
Seveasthe big bad manuals for gcc, gmake and autoconf and stuff ara available on www.gnu.org08:32
tidalwav1I can't make the thing connect on boot with the shell script, and I can't use ndiswrapper because it messes up my keyboard08:32
zenroxBr34ch, that part is short08:33
Br34chroot@tosh:/home/khan # sudo apt-get build-essential -//- E: Invalid operation build-essential08:33
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Seveasapt-get install build-essential08:33
tidalwav1br34ch: apt-get install build-essentia; :)08:33
Br34chOh, right08:33
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zenroxlol08:33
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zenroxand i cant spell08:33
tidalwav1anyone know why modprobing ndiswrapper would mess up a keyboard?08:33
Seveastidalwav1, what does the script do that you can't put in /etc/network/interfaces?08:33
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foltai also have the option of using linux drivers, but i have the same problem - i can't get the kernel source that corresponds to my kernel08:34
azrealmeow!08:34
tidalwav1seveas: h/o, it's like three lines, I'll paste it in here08:34
gargamel:)08:34
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Ubabeback to me ;)08:34
tidalwav1seveas: sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable08:34
tidalwav1sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_autojoin ssid="DICKHOME" authtype="opensystem"08:34
tidalwav1sudo dhclient wlan008:34
Ubabeany Mac users here?08:35
gargamelhello there08:35
tidalwav1the SSID incorporates my last name, unfortunately--I'm not a pervert08:35
tidalwav1lol08:35
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Ubabehellu Gargamel :)08:35
Seveastidalwav1, just put tose lines in the interfaces file08:35
tidalwav1seveas: that will actually work?08:35
Seveasomit the sudo part of course08:35
tidalwav1it will run commands?08:35
Ubabeim gonna ask what sounds like s tupid qn, might be valid though...08:35
Seveastidalwav1, set the interface to manual08:35
Br34chFirst, it told me to "apt-get update" because there are problems, now that I've done it, it's giving me unpleasent, presumably error, symbols: W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020) unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%2008:35
foltai can see a linux-headers and linux-image package, but not a linux-source package08:35
tidalwav1I thuoght it just tells it how to find the net card08:35
tidalwav1okay, I'll try it08:36
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Seveastidalwav1, if you set the interface to manual, you can add these lines as pre-p or up commands08:36
Seveasso pre-up iface wlan0 up08:36
tidalwav1seveas: what?08:36
tidalwav1lol08:36
Br34chAnd lots of those, alike the one08:36
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Seveasup wlanctlng-stuff08:36
UbabeIve gone to the Firefox website toi get the latest edition, but im getting the option of Linux i68608:36
Seveasup dhclient wlan008:36
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tidalwav1ahhh okay08:36
Ubabebut im running a Linux PPC machine here08:36
f00f_bugis there a way to turn off tap-to-click in X? i can't seem to figure it out :(08:37
Seveasread man 5 interfaces for details08:37
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Bazzi-Br34ch seems like you dont have the packages from the cdrom on your disk08:37
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tidalwav1seveas: so basically I just replaces the sudos with up?08:37
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gargamelI was wondering if some of you managed to make the alt key work as the Meta key in irssi for example08:37
tidalwav1*replaces08:37
tidalwav1DAMMIT, replace08:37
tidalwav1llo08:37
Br34chBazzi: I do have the Ubuntu disc right now . . . any short and easy ways out of this?08:37
zenroxBr34ch, put your cd in08:37
jcdentonhi08:38
Seveastidalwav1, basically yes08:38
zenroxthen re update08:38
tidalwav1okay08:38
Seveasdont forget the pre-up ifconfig wlan0 up08:38
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tidalwav1seveas: before everything else?08:38
Seveasafter: iface wlan0 manual08:38
tidalwav1seveas: okay, and then my modified script08:38
Seveasyep08:39
tidalwav1k, I'll try it :)08:39
alterimhey tidalwav08:39
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alterimi'm about to try the Linuxant method now...!08:39
tidalwav1hi again alterim :)08:39
tidalwav1alterim: why? isn't that needlessly complex :p08:39
alterimapparently it's the simplest way08:39
jroeshmm08:40
Br34chI've put the disc in . . . should I now go on with "apt-get update" and expect it to recognize all that is to be, and on from that?08:40
randabislinuxant is not free iirc08:40
alterimwho cares if it's not free08:40
tidalwav1Seveas, this is what I have: iface wlan0 manual08:40
tidalwav1pre-up ifconfig wlan0 up08:40
tidalwav1up  wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable08:40
tidalwav1up wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_autojoin ssid="whatever"08:40
tidalwav1authtype="opensystem"08:40
tidalwav1up dhclient wlan008:40
alterimit's free for 30 days and i need wireless for 2008:40
jroesan application can't find libSDL, but I found it in /usr/lib/, do I need to set a certain environment variable?08:40
randabisheh08:40
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tidalwav1seveas: look correct? should I reboot, now? ;)08:40
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Br34chI've put the disc in . . . should I now go on with "apt-get update" and expect it to recognize all that is to be, and on from that? <-- :x08:43
zenroxyep08:43
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alterimokay. i need to make sure i have kernel-source and gcc08:44
Br34chKinda confusing... on "apt-get update," I get this: W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems08:44
alterimhow do i do this?08:44
TavyProbably check under the control panel for any kind of package management, it should have a list of installed packages.08:45
randabisBr34ch you might want to make sure that the cdrom is the only source uncommented in sources.list before doing the apt-get update08:45
BazziBr34ch do you have broadband?08:45
Br34chYes, broadband08:45
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Bazzimmmh, you can enable online update then :)08:46
Bazzino need for cdrom08:46
randabisalterim, apt-get install linux-headers for the kernel you are running and apt-get install build-essential08:46
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neighborleewhat is the fix to permissions for /dev/nvidia* that on boot are constantly reverting to root.video ??08:46
alterimrandabis. i have no. sodding. internet08:46
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randabisyou should be able to pull those packages from the cdrom alterim08:47
Bazzigoebelmeier?08:47
goebelmeierBazzi?08:47
Bazzi:o08:47
goebelmeier;)08:47
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goebelmeierhuhu08:47
alterimhow do i pull them off the cdrom?08:48
randabispersonally I'd go with ndiswrapper...easier to do provided that your wireless card is compatible08:48
[nrx_] loveit.08:48
alterimrandabis08:48
Br34chBut what of this: <Bazzi-> Br34ch seems like you dont have the packages from the cdrom on your disk -- furthermore, please give me a few more directions on what to do exactly (or maybe a link, for that matter)08:48
alterimi've been trying for days with ndiswrapper08:48
alterimand i can't get it to do anything08:48
[nrx_] alterim08:48
BazziBr34ch well look at your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the urls08:48
[nrx_] i just got mine working :)08:48
alterimnrx what guide did you use?08:48
randabisyou have to set your cdrom as the only apt source in sources.list08:48
tidalwav1alterim, I didn't remember: did ndiswrapper -l say "driver present, hardware present"?08:48
[nrx_] i didn't use ndiswrapper08:49
alterimhmm cannot remember08:49
tidalwav1if it did you were really close08:49
[nrx_] was going down that route.. then went with the acx-driver route08:49
tidalwav1you should reboot and try it08:49
alterimwhat i did want to do is erase any changes i made to the networking gui08:49
tidalwav1alterim: the networking gui edits /etc/network/interfaces08:49
randabisacx-driver will only work for wireless networks that do not use WEP08:49
alterimnrx_ i tried the acx100 route also, no luck08:49
tidalwav1which is the file I'm currently having trouble with08:49
dockanei am currently dist upgrading and my hd is going to be full before all packets are downloaded, how will ubuntu react ?08:49
tidalwav1anyone want to help me?08:49
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Br34chBazzi: I presume I'd be able to do that by opening /etc/apt/sources.list in a simply text editor, and removing the #'s?08:50
jas_MHzwhats the command to unbzip08:50
mjrbunzip208:50
BazziBr34ch yes.08:50
tidalwav1argh how complex could the interfaces file be08:50
randabistar can also uncompress bzip2 tar files08:50
tidalwav1mine isn't working08:50
tidalwav1anyone knowledgeable abuot the interfaces file? :p08:51
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geneo93fileroller works good08:52
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mrproperHow do I edit the menu in Horay?08:52
randabisyou can't08:52
randabisnot in gnome anyway08:52
tidalwav1mrproper: which menu08:52
mrpropertidalwav1, Applications08:52
randabiswell, technically you can08:52
randabisit's not an easy task by any means though08:53
mrproperBecause I isntalled some Java stuff and I don't want my Java stuff showing up in there.08:53
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Br34chJust realized . . . I forgot why I'm doing this for . . . my problem was basically php4 not working with apache1.3 Anyways, I did "apt-cdrom add," and everything seems to be fine now (thanks on whoever suggested those things, or of the sort) Now, I was told be someone, to compile php myself. I was looking at some manuals last night, on how to compile the kernel . . . within it, it said several files were mandatory . . . like kernel-headers, ma08:54
Br34chke, and so on . . . to compile php, what exactly do I need to get started here? (And how much time would this task take? ..just curious)08:54
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Thom_Ubuntuwhoops08:55
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jroesbr34ch to compile php+apache or linux?08:55
alterimhaha08:55
alterimi was told 'be someone'08:55
Br34chJust php, apparently.08:55
Br34chby*08:55
alterimBE SOMEONE, MAN08:55
BazziBr34ch dont bother compiling the kernel yet.08:55
jroesyou don't need to compile php into the kernel08:56
jroesyou can't08:56
jroesthey are separate from each other :P08:56
alterimi oughta update my kernel to 68608:56
BazziBr34ch ideally, php tells you what you need to compile it08:56
jroesphp.net has a complete step-by-step guide08:56
jroeson how to compile apache, php, mysql and everything08:56
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Br34chBazzi: I have several other problems . . . like soundcard not working, acpi problems, and such on . . . but I'm willing to lay that to rest for now08:56
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jroesa kernel compile would be a separate thing08:56
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jroesyou can load kernel modules for your soundcard stuff probably08:56
Br34chalterim: Haven't slept for the past 50+ hours, I deserve a damn break!08:56
alterimhaven't slept for 50 hours? that's stupid08:57
alterimgo to bed now, fool08:57
jroesyeah :P08:57
Br34chjroes: And not recompile the entire kernel? I think I remember reading something on that08:57
alterimnevermind a poxy operating system08:57
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Br34chI have not one job, (not two either, three actually) unlike some people. But let's not speak of that now08:57
BazziBr34ch recompiling the ekrnel is almist never required08:57
randabisThe ubuntu kernels are pretty comprehensive...I don't see any need to recompile one from scratch08:58
Roeyrandabis: er08:58
Roeyrandabis: I'm having massive trouble08:58
Roeyrandabis: principally it has to do with the kernel not being able to load a raid /08:58
randabiswell, that's different08:59
Br34chHow daunting of a task is this? Takes how much times exactly? (For recompiling the kernel) And how much time would it take to simply compile . . . php4? (As I was suggested by someone here a few seconds ago)08:59
randabisI'm just speaking from a general user's perspective without exotic hardware08:59
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Roey(software raid is exotic??)08:59
magnonSetting up base-files (3.1.0ubuntu2) ...08:59
magnon/var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst: line 92: /var/log/btmp: Permission denied08:59
magnon^anyone know what that is about?09:00
BazziBr34ch compiling php takes like 5 minute09:00
randabisRoey, yes, most desktop computers do not use RAID09:00
Br34chmagnon: Do it with root? o.009:00
magnonBr34ch: done it09:00
Br34chAhh, got it. Thanks . . . I think I'll do that09:00
Roeyrandabis: software raid?09:00
magnonI can't access the file in any way09:00
Roeyrandabis: c'mon, I was using it fine till I installed ubuntu.09:00
Br34chmagnon: Maybe the file is read-only or something? o.009:00
magnonroot@thefridge:/var/log# ls -l btmp09:00
magnonls: btmp: Permission denied09:00
randabisRoey, when I said RAID, I was speaking of both hardware and software09:01
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Roeyrandabis: software raid is 100% part of the linux kernel09:01
magnonI can't chown it or change permissions09:01
magnoncan't update any packages because of that09:01
Br34chmagnon: Sorry, I couldn't imagine what it is . . . I'm a nub, maybe randabis or someone can help you with that (since they seem pretty 1337) :p09:02
alterimi have a question about synaptic, can anyone help?09:02
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neighborleealterim: shoot09:02
Br34chalterim: I don't know, can anyone?09:02
Br34ch:D Ask, unless it's about asking :P09:02
magnonBr34ch: thanks for caring though :)09:03
zone17does anyone have any experience installing ubuntu over network?09:03
nubbeIs there any list of apps with explanation except going thru synaptic?09:03
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Br34chmagnon: Happy to help with whatever I can . . . anytime09:03
alterimwell, when i check an unchecked box and click apply09:03
alterimit says xxx kb installed09:03
alterimxxx kb to be downloaded09:03
alterimbut it still says installation complete afterwards09:04
alterimhowever i have no net connection09:04
alterimso how can anything have been 'downloaded' ?09:04
neighborleealterim: i'd have to see complete output ..and no its not possible ;-)09:04
dockanei am currenty downloading packetfiles and my hd is going to be full before all files are here. what may i delete to get free space for the distupgrade ?09:05
randabisit is possible if the cdrom is set as the apt source09:05
alterimi dont understand the whole package thing though09:05
alterimfor example, after fresh install of ubuntu 5.0409:05
zone17why when I try to install ubuntu from network, I don't have the possibility to partition the harddisk?09:06
alterimsome boxes are unchecked09:06
alterimis the software for those actually on the hard drive, and not installed09:06
alterimor is it not on the hd at all09:06
alterimis it on cd?! what?!09:06
alterimwhy would they put software on the hd but not have it installed. i don't understand it all09:06
randabisthey don't put software on the hard drive that isn't installed09:07
randabisthe unchecked boxes are simply programs you don't have installed09:07
nubbealterim, U got a list of available packets, on cd and/or net09:07
alterimso why for example, was there a package 'ndiswrapper-utils' in the development tab, that was unchecked?!09:07
randabisbecause it is not installed09:07
alterimso where is it?! where does that file reside?!09:08
nubbebecause u don't want ALL packets09:08
alterimand if i have no net, how does it know it's even anywhere09:08
nubbeon cd and/or net09:08
randabison the cdrom most likely or on the internet09:08
nubbeup to u to install if  u want it09:08
alterimok, so why when i checked the box, did it not ask me for a cd09:08
alterimit simply said installation complete09:08
randabishe needs to install it if he wants ndiswrapper09:08
randabisbecause you don't have the cdrom set as an apt source probably09:09
alterimbut surely it would have said 'insert the cdrom'09:09
alterim?!09:09
alterimrather than lead me to believe it had installed09:09
randabisit will if the cdrom is an apt source09:09
alterim'22kb to be downloaded' - no cd in drive, no net connection - yet installation complete09:09
alterimthat isn't right, surely09:09
randabisprobably something the synaptic developers overlooked09:10
alterimhmmm09:10
nubbeI'm gusessing, but maybe u got some uninstalled packets from the original install in a cache of some sort09:10
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randabisbut at any rate, you should remove all apt sources except the cdrom from the repositories menu until you get your net connection going09:11
alterimhow do i do that?09:11
alterimand apt means?09:11
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nubbeedit source.lst09:11
alterimoh ok repositories menu09:11
nubbeor use synaptic09:11
randabislist not lst09:11
alterimgrr. repositories menu or edit sources.lst09:11
nubbeokidoki09:11
alterim(again, peopple telling me two different things)09:12
randabisjust use the repositories menu09:12
nubbethey r the same09:12
nubbejust diff ways of doing it09:12
randabiswe've told you two different things because there are different ways to do the same thing09:12
randabisthat's the beauty of linux09:12
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jas_MHzI apt-get installed the nvidia drivers but glgears is still at 50fps surely it should be 300fps ?09:12
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randabisif graphical tools fail, there are usually ways to do the same thing by editing text files or using the command line09:13
alterimdon't tell me, there's an even easier way, all i have to do is bypass the xproc float and recapsulate the buffertron shields, enabling the dist.source nodes?!09:13
alterimoh, right, i get you09:13
alterim...09:13
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nubbehehe09:13
dockanehd is full .. but dist upgrade keeps downloading ??09:13
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nubbeu think we owe u?09:13
randabisjas_MHZ did you run "nvidia-glx-config enable"?09:13
gratuitjas_MHz: make sure you have the nvidia kernel loaded09:14
gratuits/kernel/module09:14
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jas_MHzhow do I make sure I have the nvidia kernel loaded ?09:14
geneo93dockane:  maybe its putting it in swap09:14
randabisnvidia drivers are installed in 3 easy steps09:14
randabisapt-get install nvidia-glx09:14
randabisnvidia-glx-config enable09:14
randabisrestart x09:14
randabisthe end09:14
Brazmetalis there a deb installer in gnome?09:14
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dockanegeneo93, /dev/hda5             3,3G  3,2G     0 100%09:15
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jas_MHzyep I did install nvidia-glx & glx-config enable and restarted, I get nvidia spash screen but low fps09:15
randabisBrazmetal, what do you mean?09:16
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randabisjas_MHz, maybe your card just sucks, not sure09:16
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Brazmetalrandabis: a gui or something like to install deb packages...09:16
gxxcan anyone help with video sound lag in hoary?09:16
jas_MHzcard works fine in windoze is a 560009:17
randabisBrazmetal, I don't believe there is.09:17
BazziBrazmetal synaptic09:17
jas_MHzdo U peeple get fast fps with the apt-get drivers ?09:17
javiolojas_mhz try to edit XF86Config-4 (make backup first)09:17
randabisjas_MHz, glxgears is not a benchmark...you should try running some opengl applications to get a better idea of how it is performing09:17
Brazmetalrandabis:  what is the command? i dont remember the flag... dpkg -? file ?09:17
BeHereNowhi09:17
randabisBrazmetal, dpkg -i foo.deb be careful though...what you're doing is risky if you aren't careful09:18
gxxi am having video lag in in all video apps, what can i do to fix?09:18
randabisgxx, you probably need 3d accelerated drivers for your video card09:18
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JDahljas_MHz, I think that depends on your graphics card... I think many gamers like to screw up their system by installing binary drivers to get a few extra fps09:19
jas_MHzI'm running  hoary amd64 - any ideas on what to add to xorg.conf - ?09:19
Brazmetalrandabis:  why? I just want to install a menueditor.. it isn't in the repositories...09:19
randabisyou shouldn't need to edit xorg.conf09:19
gxxrandabis, ahh, i think i forgot to enable 3d!!  i have just reinstalled Hoary and forgot to do that09:19
bit0i've this error in Openoffice2 : [Java framework]  Invalid value for bootstrap variable: UNO_JAVA_JFW_VENDOR_SETTINGS[Java framework] 09:19
dockanesynaptic returned while making the changes :09:20
randabisBrazmetal, mixing debs compiled for other distributions is not kosher, that's all09:20
gxxrandabis. thanks for reminding me ;)09:20
randabisgxx, no problem09:20
jas_MHzoh well forget the fps I would be happy to get both monitors going - any ideas how to het 2nd mon going ? edit xorg.conf ?09:20
Levanderanybody use the gimp?  can't find a good book on gimp v2, they're all on gimp v109:20
zenroxjas_MHz,  check out #nvidia09:21
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BeHereNowhi, y would like play to quake2, i instaled it but i don't hace the opengl. What can i do to install it, please?09:22
garrutanyone here using freenx?09:22
randabisBeHereNow, depends on your video card09:22
BeHereNownvidia geoforce09:22
BeHereNow409:22
BeHereNow64mb09:22
BeHereNowbut i had installed the drivers from ubuntu servers09:23
randabisBeHereNow, type this in a command line without the quotes "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" then either reboot or restart your X server09:23
BeHereNowok09:23
BeHereNowthanxs09:23
BeHereNow:)09:23
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dockanesynaptic told me to do a 'dpkg --configure -a' but hd is full. how do i get rid of the downloaded packetfiles ?09:25
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WeirdAlIs there nothing on this kerazy planet that can resize an ext3 partition, apart from Partition Magic? :-(09:26
randabisapt-get clean I believe09:26
randabisWeirdAl, GParted09:26
WeirdAlI've even booted into Knoppix09:26
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WeirdAlGParted... k hang on09:26
randabisthere's also BootItNG...a program you boot from a floppy09:27
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WeirdAlk, there's no gparted in Knoppix, and if I try to run it from Ubuntu then I'll be resizing a mounted partition...09:27
WeirdAlWhere cna I get bootitng?09:27
WeirdAlOh no wait...09:27
WeirdAlI don't have a floppy drive.09:27
WeirdAlSpose I could waste a CD on it...09:28
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randabisWeirdAl, I think knoppix has QTParted09:28
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WeirdAlQTParted won't do it.09:28
WeirdAlThis is what's annoying me so much.09:28
randabisit won't? It should09:29
WeirdAlIt won't.09:29
WeirdAlAlso it throws up loads of errors when I load it.09:29
randabiswell, qtparted does suck...:/09:29
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WeirdAlYes, it does.09:29
WeirdAlHowever, I've not managed to find anything other than PartitionMagic that doesn't.09:30
WeirdAlAnd you have to pay for that.09:30
randabiswell, BootItNG will work...I "think" you may be able to make a bootable CD with it09:30
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WeirdAlOK09:30
WeirdAlGood thing I have a thousand CDs09:30
WeirdAlOr thereabouts.09:31
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Brazmetalis there any way to uninstall a application without having to uninstall ubuntu-desktop09:32
Brazmetal?09:33
randabisubuntu-desktop is just a meta package09:33
randabisit's safe to remove09:33
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Brazmetalsorry, but what is a meta-package?09:33
An00b15lol09:33
VjazBrazmetal: A package that contains no real data, only dependencies.09:33
BrazmetalI want to remove some apps like evolution, the games and etc...09:34
sleeperhi09:34
randabisa package that just refers to a group of other packages basically09:34
An00b15a package representative09:34
JDahlBrazmetal, if the ubuntu-desktop depends on the pakcage, you cannot remove it without also removing ubuntu-desktop. Ubuntu-desktop is good to have09:34
VjazBrazmetal: So ubuntu-desktop depends on evolution and firefox, for example.09:34
gxxrandabis, what else can be the problem?  i have installed video driver with 3d and still lagged09:34
sleepercan i read in microshoft project 1 document do with planner?09:34
Brazmetalso I cant remove ubuntu-desktop?09:34
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randabisyou can remove ubuntu-desktop09:34
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sleepercan i read in microshoft project 1 document do with planner?09:34
Brazmetalrandabis: removing ubuntu-desketop, what is really removed?09:35
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djpjust about to install totem-xine. it tells me it will remove totem-gstream and ubuntu-desktop. is that right? ubuntu-desktip?09:35
djpdesktop even!09:35
mjrremove away09:35
randabisJDahl, why is it good to have exactly? If you don't want something like evolution, then I see no reason why you'd need it09:35
randabisBrazmetal, the package that you want to remove, and the ubuntu-desktop meta-package09:35
randabisthat's all09:35
djpmjr: ok thanks. thought i'd lose my entire desktop!!!09:35
sgteichGood afternoon09:36
randabisdjp, yeah it's perfectly safe to remove09:36
randabisit's just a meta-package09:36
JDahlrandabis, to get the homogeneous desktop layout provided by Ubuntu, as well as automatic updates?09:36
WeirdAlHeh ... 1.8MB on a CD09:36
Brazmetalrandabis: so the rest of the system ins't modified?09:36
djprandabis: cheers09:36
Brazmetalok09:36
randabisJDahl, you can get all of those without ubuntu-desktop09:36
randabisBrazmetal, correct09:36
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Brazmetalok, it's good.09:37
JDahlrandabis, sure you can... but why you want to install those independently? ubuntu-desktop is there for a reason other than to bug you09:37
JDahls/why/why would09:37
zygagood evening :)09:38
calcdjp: btw hoary doesn't make you remove the ubuntu-desktop package anymore to use totem-xine09:38
randabisJDahl, well yes, I agree for an initial install it makes more sense to just install ubuntu-desktop09:38
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randabisBut I mean afterward if there is something you don't want like evolution, then there is no harm in removing it09:38
calcdjp: also it is good to see what new things are depended on by ubuntu-desktop occasionally if you don't have it installed, so you can get the new other packages09:38
WeirdAl:-\ waste of a CD09:38
WeirdAlIt ignored it totally09:38
mjrsummary: it's basically okay to remove ubuntu-desktop, but you might want to reinstall it after upgrading to the next release to get the entire desktop those zany ubuntu people have put together09:39
JDahlrandabis, you wont automatically get general desktop layout updates without it, I think09:39
WeirdAlTell a lie, that was the shutdown sequence I was seeing09:39
djpmjr: xvid's now playing, thanks...09:40
randabisJDahl, I believe you do...I have been anyway without it...as long as you have the packages that control the layout, then the changes are applied...ubuntu-desktop doesn't actually contain any data, just dependencies09:40
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WeirdAlnope, bootit ng won't run from a CD09:40
WeirdAl:-(09:40
djpmjr: firefox still shows my mozplugger as finding all the same associations. is that working with the old gstreamer0.8-plugin?09:41
randabisdid you make the cd bootable?09:41
mjrdjp, I don't think mozplugger has any knowledge on what totem is using for playing09:41
WeirdAlSo far, the number of working partition management programs I've found is 1. And that costs.09:41
WeirdAlThat kind of sucks.09:41
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djpmjr: so mozplugger is totally independent of any gstreamer plugins?09:42
randabisgparted works just fine09:42
mjrprobably09:42
randabisand regular parted does too09:42
djpmjr: thanks09:42
WeirdAlrandabis: how do I explicitly make a CD bootable?09:42
WeirdAlSeeing as it had exes and stuff.09:43
randabisWeirdAl, depends on the cd burning program09:43
bit0WeirdAl, from command line?09:43
WeirdAlI used nautilus to burn what would have been on the floppy to a CD instead.09:43
WeirdAlThat's always worked for me09:43
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LathiatHi guys -- My gamin isn't working properly (for example new files on the desktop don't show up, among other things) -- Any idea how I can debug this?09:43
krash3xhey everyone09:43
djpdoes rhythmbox use the gstreamer plugins?09:44
krash3xis 5.04 a full version?09:44
randabisWeirdAl, I don't think nautilus will do bootable cds09:44
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mjrdjp, yes09:44
randabiskrash3x, yes09:44
WeirdAlOh... what will, and how do I do it?09:44
mjr(and for audio, it actually works well ;)09:44
djpmjr: ahh, thank you! i think i am slowly (very slowly in my case) beginning to understand!09:45
WeirdAlI've never made a CD that's not been bootable that should have been.09:45
earthencan anyone tell me how to get MP# playback to work09:45
earthenMP309:45
randabisWeirdAl, I think k3b can make them; not sure...you can probably do it by command line too09:46
djpmjr: so i DO need to keep gstreamer-plugins installed even though i've got totem-xine installed... thanks for all your help today (night, wherever you happen to be) mjr!09:46
mjrearthen, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:46
WeirdAlrandabis, using cdrecord?09:46
mjrdjp, well, at least the audio ones09:46
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randabisWeirdAl, possibly, I'm not sure because I've never needed to do it09:47
Danny666hi@all09:47
earthenmjr   Been there did that but still doesn't work! everytime i try and start playing an MP3 the program crashes09:47
[nrx_] is there something you can use in place of msn messenger to talk to other msn users?09:48
[nrx_] aaannnddd, also view their webcam?09:48
Danny666iam having problems with my network since i updated my system09:48
munki[nrx_]  : not the webcam thing09:48
LeeJunFan[nrx] : gaim or kopete09:48
Brazmetal[nrx] : there are lots of msn clones.09:48
Danny666i also installed a new version and it is still not working09:48
[nrx_] does gaim do webcam though?09:48
munki[nrx_]  : but Gaim can handle msn accounts :)09:48
[nrx_] bah09:48
djpmjr: i just used the metapackage gstreamer-plugins to install them. ithink it just sticks the lot in. i wouldn't know where to begin in terms of sorting out the audio from the video and so on!09:48
LeeJunFan[nrx] : no - not webcam09:48
JDahl[nrx] , gaim is very good.. maybe gnome-messenger can connect to msn09:48
LeeJunFangnomemeeting09:49
Brazmetal[nrx] : try aMSN our Mercury (it suports webcam, but it's experimental)09:49
JDahlLeeJunFan, yes, gnomemeeting.. I think it's the same protocol as msn for video09:50
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LeeJunFanJDahl: I know it'll work with netmeeting.09:51
geneo91used to be09:51
earthenI've installed gstreamer0.8 and rhythmbox but still no go09:51
[nrx_] another question.. I've just managed to get wlan working..09:51
[nrx_] but I can't see computers on the network in the network browser anymore09:51
[nrx_] any ideas?09:51
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geneo91earthen:  you need gstreamer0.8-mad09:51
earthenyes i have that09:52
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earthenwhen i try and start rhythmbox, music player starts is that right?09:53
LeeJunFanOT: anyone know how to get fglrx working with a vanilla 2.6.11.5 kern?09:53
randabisNot really...2.6.11 is still experimental I thought09:53
randabiserr nope09:54
randabisI'm behind hehe09:54
LeeJunFanrandabis: beats the hell outta me - they change the kern versioning every other week now.09:54
calcexperimental as far as ubuntu is concerned09:54
LeeJunFan:)09:54
calcbut 2.6.11.6 is current "stable" on k.o09:54
randabis2.6.11.5 is the latest stable kernel...09:54
randabis:p09:54
randabiserr 609:55
randabiskeep in mind I've been offline for a little over a month09:55
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kakaltocould someone please tell me why on earth the archive manager, and nautilus screw up when there's a css file in a directory?09:56
kakaltothey just crash09:57
kakaltoso I can't extract it, unless I use windows09:57
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kakaltoand then I can't enter the directory09:57
kakaltohowever09:57
kakaltoGFTP doesn't crash when going into the folder09:58
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cantonacan I upgrade hoary amd64 from debian amd64?10:00
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calcjoa: most likely not10:01
mjrmight work, but is unsupported in the best case10:01
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calcwell at least without knowing exactly what you are doing :)10:01
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caliberHelp!  My IPv6 tunnel crashed, and now every 2 minutes my screen is spammed with:  Mar 27 14:52:10 localhost kernel: unregister_netdevice: waiting for tun to become free. Usage count = 1,  Mar 27 14:53:40 localhost last message repeated 6 times10:02
javihi there, where i can find the 'howto' to upgrade ubuntu to unstable10:02
javi;o10:02
WeirdAlrandabis, do you happen to know quite how I make a bootable CD?10:02
WeirdAlI've installed k3b10:02
calcjavi: just change warty line to hoary then run apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade10:02
javicalc: thx ;)10:02
Seveasand prepare to wait an hour :)10:03
kakaltowhy tf does linux hate my css file?10:03
Br34chcss file? o.010:04
Br34chAs in, cascading stylesheet?10:04
kakaltoya10:05
Br34chWhat's wrong with it?10:05
kakaltofor website10:05
Br34chGot apache2 installed?10:05
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kakaltoit crashes nautilus, the archive program, and gedit if I try to edit it10:05
kakaltoprobably not.10:05
kakaltothanks.10:05
Br34chOh10:05
Seveaskakalto, thats cool10:05
[nrx_] folks.. any idea why I can't see any machines on the network in network browser?10:05
Seveasvirus in a css :)10:05
[nrx_] and if i connect to a box, with the relevant details, I can't see anything on it?10:05
mjrkakalto, try and get to it from a terminal10:05
jas_MHzHelp - I installed nvu from nvu.com (moz based web authoring) but on running it I get a loading library error :libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.310:05
kakaltoI checked, it's valid CSS on w3 :P10:05
kakaltomjr, I probably could10:06
Br34chSo if you open it . . . it crashes . . . try "cat file.css" on term maybe?10:06
kakaltoyeah10:06
Br34chOr use vim or something, just to verify it's only text10:06
Br34chIn terms of CSS, I mean10:06
mjr(and when you get to it, make a bug report with it attached, 'cause that's weird)10:06
jas_MHzI followed the ubuntuguide to install it.10:07
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kakaltoyeah, it doesn't crash vim, cat, or nano10:07
Br34chLook through it . . . something odd in there?10:07
Artihow can I search for a package which provides a certain file?10:07
Br34chArti: I'd google ;)10:07
kakaltoheheh.10:07
Br34chBut I can't give you a direct answer to your question, sorry10:08
joactrl+f1 doesnt work10:08
Br34chkakalto: The extension is set at .css, is it not?10:08
kakaltoI don't really know css, it was part of a template, but I can't find anything particularly suspicious in there10:08
kakaltoyeah10:08
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kakaltobut, it doesn't crash anything in windows, and it displays the web page fine on the net after uploading10:08
Br34chSo it crashes when you open it . . . does it crashes the page10:09
cuscohi... I have this ew keyboard with this pen...10:09
kakaltoand it doesn't crash GFTP10:09
Br34chOh10:09
cuscoI don't know the name of this device10:09
Br34chkakalto: Locally, does it crash the page that it's being used on?10:09
cuscothese pens that you write10:09
kakaltoBr34ch, give me a moment...10:09
Br34chew keyboard? :s10:09
cuscowell yes... lol10:10
Br34chAhh . . . those things, I got me one of those . . .10:10
kakaltoBr34ch, no, doesn't crash firefox10:10
cuscomy keyboard insead of a numpad10:10
kakaltoit displays fine10:10
cuscohas this square10:10
Br34chWhat's it called.. tablet something10:10
cuscoto use this interactive pen10:10
cuscotablet..something thats it10:10
kakaltoit's just nautilus, file-roller, and gedit10:10
cuscoheh10:10
Br34chkakalto: That very well narrows it down I suppose? The problem may not by with the file, but something else . . .10:10
kakaltoall which are dependant on GUI?10:10
kakaltoexcept firefox displays it fine10:11
Brazmetalwhere is the nautilus cd-burner? (i'm noob using gnome)10:11
spadesburn:///10:11
[nrx_] anyone know of marillet?10:11
kakaltoeven if I look directly at the css file under firefox, it displays the text inside fine10:11
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Br34chHmm . . . kakalto, did you try opening it with leafpad?10:11
kakaltoleafpad?10:11
kakaltoleafpad <file> ?10:12
Br34chIt's a text editor, very alike Windows Notepad10:12
Br34chIf you have it installed, yes, if not, apt-get install leafpad10:12
kakaltoyou mentioned apache, do I need that installed?10:12
jas_MHzany one know where to get libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 ? is it a backport ??10:12
Br34chcusco: I didn't have that configured on Windows . . . sorry, you can try googling and seeing if anyone else has gone through this (ubuntu forums, maybe?)10:12
Br34ch!google tablet something ubuntu10:12
cuscoBr34ch: I can't make it work... I don0t even know in what can I use it but ok10:12
cuscook10:13
kakaltoBr34ch, I got critical errors when apt-getting leafpad :(10:13
Br34chcusco: Well, in Windows . . . I used it for Word (signatures.. yeah) paint . . . and mostly, in today's world it's used my architectures and artists (they use the weird mouse more :P)10:13
Br34chkakalto: try apt-get update first and then that10:14
kakaltobut it displays correctly...10:14
kakaltono crash10:14
kakaltoif I update, that's 100mb of stuff :(10:14
Br34chLeafpad is a GUI text editor . . . and no, 100 mb?!10:14
Br34chThat doesn't sound right . . .10:14
kakaltofull update, if that's what you mean10:15
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kakalto"130mb must be downloaded"10:15
jas_MHzdoes anyone know how I can get libstdc++2.10 installed into hoary amd64 ?? i have universe sources but no joy ?10:15
Br34chOn 56k or something, btw?10:16
Danny666is it possible to downgrade dhcp?10:16
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Seveasjas_MHz, you probably miscompiled your application10:16
SeveasDanny666, why?10:16
kakaltoBr34ch, 256k10:16
kakaltobut still, that's a few hours wort10:16
kakalto*worth10:16
Br34chOh, you can try GUI Synaptic . . . have the universe enabled, and simply download leafpad (should be less than 1 mb, I'd guess)10:17
Danny666i am having problems10:17
Danny666i cant connect to the internet10:17
Br34chBut I simply suggested you try it on leafpad because it is a very simply text editor . . . that's all, it's up to you really10:17
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SeveasDanny666, than you must upgrade10:17
Br34chsimple*10:17
kakaltoI downloaded leafpad, I got critical errors when setting up, but it runs fine10:17
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Seveasthere was a package yesterday that caused problems10:17
Br34chThe file runs file on it?10:17
Danny666i cant connect to the internet10:17
kakaltoleafpad opens the css file fine10:18
SeveasDanny666, can you transfer filews to it with a floppy?10:18
jas_MHzok any good howtos for a nooby to compiling apps from sources ?10:18
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Br34chkakalto: If you had critical errors with that . . . a bit more than that might be messed up . . . :x10:18
kakalto:X10:18
Danny666i have no floppy im my notebook10:18
Seveasusb device maybe?10:19
Seveasor cd-rw10:19
Danny666cd10:19
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kakaltoisn't it funny how, if I update, I have to download 130mb of stuff.... but it will only take up 5mb more10:19
Seveasthen download the latest dhcp packages on the machine you are on now, burn them on a rewritable disc and install them on the laptop10:19
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Danny666i had a update 2 hrs ago10:20
maxcheedoes anyone here use qemu?10:20
Seveasow10:20
Danny666since this no internet connection at all10:20
Seveasthen the problem shouldn't be dhcp10:20
Danny666what then10:21
SeveasDanny666, what is the error you get?10:21
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SeveasDanny666, can you paste the output of dpkg -l | grep dhcp10:21
Bazzikakalto thats the reason its called an update10:21
Danny666no i cant10:21
Seveasah yeah, stupid me :)10:21
Seveasjust check if it says ubuntu4 somewhere10:22
Danny666we tryed10:22
Danny666everything10:22
LithiWhat group does cupsys belong to when you first install Ubuntu?10:22
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SeveasDanny666, does dpkg -l | grep dhc say 3.0.1-1ubuntu4?10:23
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kakaltoBr34ch, does it matter that I don't have apache installed?10:23
Danny666one moment i have to reboot10:23
Br34chkakalto: Shouldn't really . . .10:23
kakaltoahk10:23
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kakaltothen wish me luck on google10:24
Br34chkakalto: you should have that installed if you plan to work with php, mysql, etc.10:24
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kpetersoncan anyone help me set up a vsftpd server?10:25
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woodwizzleAnyone know of any software that can go through a large mp3/ogg/flac collection and pick out duplicates even if bitrates and formats arn't the same?10:25
jas_MHzif I want to install something form a debian distro is it just a matter of changing sources or must I compile from source ?10:26
[nrx] if your machine kinda... churns along almost locked up.. is there any way to break out of it?10:27
[nrx] mouse is very unresponsive and you can't switch to diff applications10:27
javihello there, where do i can find a 'howto' configure an ubuntu system as gateway? ;o10:27
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kakaltoBr34ch, nah, I'm simply adapting an oswd template to my likings, changing bits here and there in the xhtml & css files10:28
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BockBilbohey10:29
kakaltowhat's the relation between DVD and CSS?10:30
kakaltoI thought CSS was only cascading style sheet10:30
BockBilbocan anyone tell me how to not allow certain users to log in to a system using ssh?10:30
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fez__I just changed an old ntfs storage partition to a linux partition (changing label in fdisk and then using mkfs.ext2), but I can't figure out how to mount it so that my default user can write to it.10:30
mjrkakalto, the DVD encryption scheme is also called CSS10:30
mjryou know, the one they're trying to pass off as copy protection but that really is viewing protection10:30
mjrand luckily not any good at that either10:31
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mjrshort for Content Scrambling System in that case10:31
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kpetersonI just installed vsftp via apt-get and supposedly it should work now, but when I try to log in, I get error "500 OOPS Child Died" (kind of disturbing error :)  Any ideas?10:33
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BockBilbokpeterson10:33
BockBilbotry this:10:33
BockBilbohttp://www.siliconvalleyccie.com/linux-hn/ftp-server.htm10:33
geneo91kpeterson:  yes that is disturbing news10:33
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eYeStRaInIm having problems with my live installer, it crashes on hotplug subsystem. i tried using preview install too but hotplug keeps my laptop freezing10:34
SeveasBockBilbo, man 5 sshd_config10:34
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TLFhi10:34
kpetersonbockbilbo I will try that, thank you10:34
TLFubuntu uses supermount by default?10:34
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KarlosIIhmm adobe linux reader, I wonder how I go about installling that on linux10:35
KarlosIImore specific ubuntu10:35
kpetersonKarlosII It can be found on ubuntuguide.org10:35
eYeStRaInis there a way i can disable hotplug on grub?10:35
yonatanhi there, good morning|afternoon|evening10:35
sonnytest10:35
mjrTLF, no, ubuntu uses different automounting schemes10:35
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TLFmjr: mmm, ok10:35
TLFmjr: so, my USB Pen drive dhouldn't be mounted automatically?10:35
Seveashotplug really shouldn't be disabled...10:35
SeveasTLF yes10:36
Danny666seveas dhcp3-client 3.0.1-1ubuntu3 that is what it says10:36
Seveasit should be10:36
mjrTLF, namely, HAL notifies Gnome MVolume Manager of new devices or disks and it then mounts them (if it's been told to, as it is by default, I think)10:36
SeveasTLF, ubuntu uses pmount10:36
TLFis kubuntu, sorry :-)10:36
Seveaskubuntu should too10:36
SeveasDanny666, that version of dhcp is goof10:36
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Seveasgood*10:36
TLFSeveas: it doesn't mount :(10:37
mjrTLF, ah, well, no idea about that10:37
TLFSeveas: and there are no lines about the pen drive in fstab10:37
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Danny666so what should i do?10:37
mjrTLF, there shouldn't10:37
mjrTLF, pmount mounts pluggable devices without fstab entries10:37
TLFso, where's the fault?10:37
SeveasTLF, as a normal user you can use pmount /dev/sda110:37
fez__Can anyone tell me how to set permissions so that my default user can have access to a mounted ext2 partition?  All the documentation I find online is about mounting fat or ntfs.10:37
Seveaseven without fstab10:38
mjrgnome uses that on ubuntu, and kde should too, and if it doesn't, it's a bug :)10:38
SeveasDanny666, what is the error you get when trying to bring up your interface10:38
mjrfez__, as ext2 supports unix permissions natively, just chown the partition to the user you wish10:38
TLFSeveas: and to automount, that? there is any option I can try=?10:39
fez__mjr, so I can't make it accessable to all my users?10:39
mjrfez__, of course you can10:39
mjrby setting appropriate permissions10:39
fez__mjr, so do I chown the mount point?10:39
Brazmetaldo you have any tricks to boost ubuntu boot time?10:39
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mjrfez__, IIRC the mount point permissions don't matter when the partition is mounted to it, so apply the chown/mod after mounting it10:40
pvoceFINALLY got nvidia to load10:40
yonatanhi all, just installed hoary preview10:41
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yonatan"There are 298 updates available" <-- Will this happen everyday?10:41
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geneo91yonatan:  no10:42
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yonatangeneo91: oh good, so it's not like fedora :)10:42
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pvoceyonatan: nopers..ist only about 20-20 a day:)10:44
pvoceer...10 even10:44
theantixyeah only nine for me since last night10:44
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Roeycrimsun: ping10:44
fez__mjr, i did chown :users on it... seems to work. thanks.10:45
_BIJ_hi@all + happy easter ;-)10:45
Roeyyonatan: actcom is still around??10:45
Zugotare you running hoary?10:45
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maxcheedoes anyone a way to track make install?10:46
yonatanRoey: yep, i've been with actcom for several years...10:46
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_BIJ_i got a problem with skype running under hoary.... the sound device is not working properly with it... does anyone have a clue what to do?10:46
nugehi guys, while installing amd64 warty from cd, is there any way to choose lilo over grub? i am in expert mode and still can't find where i can choose between the two10:46
Zugotmaxchee, track, make intall?10:46
maxcheesorry, does anyone know a way to track "make isntall"? (ie. create a deb package to uninstall whatever that's installed by "make install".10:46
yonatanbye, must take the dog for a walk...goodnight10:46
Zugotnuge, why lilo over grub?10:46
Zugotmaxchee, yeah... install "checkinstall"10:47
nugezugot, having some troubles with grub on this lapotp i got and i saw one post on the ubuntu forums saying that perhaps lilo may work better10:47
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Dalk-Awaynuge, in expert mode, you simply skip the grub install stage10:47
Dalk-Awaythe next stage is the lilo install10:47
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difektadoes anyone know whether there will be any way to have a multiple user login interface at the gdm, like in osx and xp?10:47
nugedalk-away, ahh.. ok simple enough, thanks :)10:47
Dalkusdifekta, yes, there is :)10:47
DalkusNp10:48
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difektathere is a way?10:48
maxcheeZugot: thx!10:48
Dalkusit is default10:48
difektait's not on my system10:48
Dalkusdifekta, you type your username and password in the graphical login10:48
Dalkusjust type the username of the other account10:48
difektano, that's not what i mean.10:48
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DalkusHmm?10:48
AgrajagDalkus: I think he's asking for a list of names10:48
DalkusOh10:48
Agrajagdifekta: sudo gdmsetup10:48
kakaltohttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=107331 <---- Could someone please help me?10:49
difektaif my system goes to screensaver, or i say "login as another user", it doesn't take me back to the login screen.10:49
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DalkusIt can definatly be done in kdm, so i guess it can be done10:49
Agrajagoh, that10:49
difektathe gdm should spawn the login on a new x server.10:49
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difektathat is sorely lacking in gdm.10:49
difektaand xp and osx have had it for years.10:49
Agrajaguh10:49
mhzbur[n] er: hey, there10:49
AgrajagApplications > System Tools > New Login10:50
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bur[n] erhola10:50
difektabut that's a hack.10:50
bur[n] erwhat's up mhz10:50
difektain order to do that, a user would have to have access to my login.10:50
mjrxp and osx have spawned new X servers for logins for ages?10:50
difektaexactly.10:50
difektaso why doesn't gdm10:50
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difektasay i'm away from my computer, and my system has gone to screen saver, a new user should be presented with a login.10:51
newguyHello I have one quick question..does Ubuntu have a modem dialer installed by default?10:51
mhzbur[n] er: sorry for bothering at this time but I just installed ubuntu to a friend of mine and I got this stupid question: What to edit in cups?? to enable it via localhost:631??10:51
geneo91xp and osx aren't sucure10:51
difektathis is one of the major issues keeping desktop linux a bit "ghetto"10:51
Dalkusdifekta, check out google, maybe someones written about it10:51
geneo91secure10:51
kbrooksgeneo91, dude. they are10:51
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bur[n] ermhz: it should be enabled by default10:51
mhzbur[n] er: yes, I googled a little but we are running out of time10:51
geneo91oh sure they are10:51
mjrwell, you _can_ tell gdm to start multiple X servers from the get-go, that would help some10:51
bur[n] erlocalhost:631 doesn't show anything?10:51
gxxanyone know about video lag in hoary?  how can i fix it10:51
kbrooksgeneo91, osx is, by default10:51
bur[n] ermhz: u can always try the gnome-print-manager10:51
mhzit says Disabled10:52
mjrbut having it spawn new servers would be a useful option sometimes10:52
mjr(as would be having a button in xscreensaver that launches a new gdm login)10:52
mhzyes, but do not like it and he already knows via web only10:52
bur[n] erer... gnome-cups-manager10:52
kbrooksgeneo91, xp is IF AND ONLY IF you enable a rudiementary firewll10:52
Zugotdo you guys understand what you are asking?10:52
kbrookswall*10:52
difektai have done the multiple xservers.10:52
bur[n] ermhz: dpkg-reconfigure cups?10:52
difektathat still requires that one press ctrl-alt-fx.  that just doesn't seem very professional.10:52
geneo91kbrooks:  that firewall is ajoke in xp10:53
mhzhmmm, I knew there was something to edit in /etc/cups or I am wrong?10:53
Zugotwhat makes sense and what is practical aren't the same thing10:53
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Zugotgeneo91, it isn't a joke.. it does what it supposed to do10:53
akkHas anyone asked already for console beep to be turned on in the ubuntu kernel?10:53
kbrooksgeneo91, yeah...there are freeware and shareware firewalls10:53
kbrooksNOT OPEN SOURCE10:53
kbrooksAS IF!10:53
Roeyhi10:53
RoeyI am trying to boot Ubuntu and get this:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/QPbSIs30.html10:53
kbrooksZugot, it is technically a joke10:54
mhzbur[n] er: nops! sorry10:54
bur[n] ermhz: it just works for me to go to localhost:631 :\10:54
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critterIs there an easy way to restore files in the trash bin . That the trash bin wont let me delete?10:54
kbrooksZugot, too many firewalls out there 4 windows arent even open source10:54
kbrooksZugot, they are either freeware or shareware or commercial10:54
mhzbur[n] er: so, you do not see a "Administrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing."10:55
kakaltocould someone please help me with my cascading style sheets issue?10:55
bur[n] ermhz: no, i don't10:55
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bur[n] erthat printing panel works fo rme10:55
Dalkuskakalto, wrong channel to ask in :)10:55
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Zugotkbrooks, we are going off topic here... and your argument makes no sense10:55
kakaltois it?10:55
kbrooksas if! i DEMAND a open source firewall for windows10:55
bur[n] ermhz: using warty or hoary?10:55
mhzbur[n] er: okidoki, then, thx anyways :D10:55
kakaltoDalkus, ?10:55
Roey*an open source firewall10:55
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Dalkuskakalto, try in #CSS10:55
mhzme, hoary, him, warty10:55
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mhzwe both see same stuff10:56
kakaltoDalkus, lol, thanks10:56
DalkusNp.10:56
Zugotkbrooks, why?  windows xp isn't an open source os.10:56
Zugotthats crazy10:56
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critterCan anyone tell me how to restore files in the trash bin?10:56
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kakaltoDalkus, does that include problems with programs crashing when editing a css file?10:56
bur[n] ermhz: within the gnome-cups-manager, you could turn on "lan browsing" under the global menu10:56
Roeykbrooks: http://www.governmentsecurity.org/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t4537.html10:56
DalkusEr, depends on the program :)  Which program?10:57
nugeDalkus: installing it now.. the only option i see is "install the grub boot loader..." or "continue without boot loader"  - sorry, where is my option for lilo?10:57
yahalomhi when i try to remove mesa-gl with apt-get it wants to uninstall about another 40 apps with it, such as synaptic, my BZFlag game, etc, is this normal? how can i just remove the mesa-gl? help appreciated.10:57
kakaltoDalkus, the thing is, nautilus crashes when inside a directory with a css file10:57
kakaltoDalkus, which is why I thought this was the channel for help10:57
DalkusYou know how you have to go down the list each time, and hit enter on the part of the install you would like to continue with? I seem to remember lilo being after grub10:57
geneo91nuge try the back button10:58
siimoanyone know the name of that new GTK2 pdf viewer that supports text copy and  text search like acrobat? its only like version 0.2 or something10:58
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Dalkuskakalto, In that case, sorry this is the right channel... but your problem isnt a CSS one, its a nautilus one :)10:58
Roeysii: the one that uses poppler?10:58
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kakaltoDalkus; except it also happens with gedit and the archive program10:58
Roeycan anyone help me out with this grub bootup issue?  http://rafb.net/paste/results/QPbSIs30.html10:58
Ubabeim at a crossroads here ppl...10:58
sysrqHow is one to setup printing remotely if administration via the cups interface is disabled?10:59
Dalkuskakalto, have you searched google for the problem?10:59
Ubabe...if i can get Ubuntu to run my plugins, im10:59
Ubabe...gonna cry! boohoo! heheh10:59
nugegeneo91, sends me back to man install menu with no option for lilo :/10:59
kakaltoDalkus, yes, with no success10:59
nuges/man install/main install10:59
Ubabenah, how do i get them to work?10:59
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kakaltoI also searched the forums, with no success10:59
Ubabeany Firefox wizzs here?10:59
Dalkuskakalto, sorry try asking in a few hours :)10:59
kakaltowhich is why I made this topic ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10733110:59
DalkusUbabe, whats your problem?10:59
geneo91nuge  does it say insrall boot loader10:59
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vinseei <3 ubuntu10:59
nugeit says "Install the GRUB boot loader on a hard disk"11:00
DalkusUbabe, check out www.ubuntuguide.org, it details installing firefox plugins if thats what your after?11:00
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yahalomanyone?11:00
Dalkusnuge, after that option, should be a lilo line?11:01
vmrochai just installed vlc and i got the following erro: [00000273]  oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)11:01
vmrochadoes anyone have a clue?11:01
nugedalkus, not on this warty amd64 install cd :/11:01
Dalkusnuge, hrm, perhaps lilo isnt ported to it yet11:01
Roeynuge: dude there is no lilo on ubuntu11:01
DalkusYou tried using GRUB?11:01
UbabeDalkus, yup, thanks :)11:01
Roeynuge: it just installs grub11:01
DalkusRoey, yes there is11:01
RoeyDalkus: oh???11:01
DalkusUbabe, np11:01
RoeyDalkus: so if I reinstall, I can select LILO?11:02
nugein fact, (with the cdrom mounted), a 'find / -name "*lilo*"' find nothing11:02
DalkusRoey, I almost installed it11:02
nugedalkus ah i see, hmm11:02
DalkusYeah, in expert mode11:02
Roeyoh really11:02
Roeyinteresting.11:02
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DalkusThough expert mode needs more experience than the normal mode :)11:02
RoeyDalkus: that's fien for me11:02
RoeyDalkus: I can't really /get/ lilo to boot11:02
davixhow do i apt install a deb file?11:02
DalkusI suggest you stick with grub... it's generally nicer11:02
nugedalkus, i guessi could try the hoary preview installer11:02
eYeStRaInim having problems with hotplug subsystem crashing on my laptop11:02
RoeyDalkus: I get an error on three different amd64 kernels.11:02
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eYeStRaInany suggestions what should i do11:02
DalkusRoey, what kind of error?11:03
RoeyDalkus: grub gives me different errors... http://rafb.net/paste/results/QPbSIs30.html11:03
DalkuseYeStRaIn, you tried upgrading it?11:03
DalkuseYeStRaIn, hotplug, that is11:03
eYeStRaInupgrading which?11:03
Dalkus^11:03
RoeyDalkus: LILO gives me this kind of error:   http://rafb.net/paste/results/GXDJxw37.html11:03
vinseewhen is hoary coming?11:04
davixhow do i apt install a deb file?11:04
vinseeout*11:04
eYeStRaInim using gateway solo 3300 laptop and i installed 5.04 ubuntu on it, but everytime it boots it stucks on hotplug subsystem11:04
DalkusRoey, hrmph, sorry I don't know anything about those errors, try another help channel? Any debian help channel should also be relevent11:04
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Dalkusdavix, with dpkg -i11:04
DalkuseYeStRaIn, when does it get stuck? before X loads?11:04
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arbeckwhen i try to use cdrecord, i get this error message: Error trying to open /dev/hdc exclusively (Device or resource busy)...11:05
eYeStRaInno when it says hotplug subsystem ...11:05
DalkusWhen is that...? After you login?11:05
RoeyDalkus: ok11:05
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DalkusRoey, sorry :)11:05
RoeyDalkus: thank you11:05
Dalkusnp11:05
Ubabesorry to bother11:05
eYeStRaInDalkus: i think its before that, i havent seen any login prompt yet11:06
dryadHey, I was wondering if it's possible to reinstall gnome-background-properties - mine stopped working sometime today..11:06
zygadryad: sure it is, try synaptic11:06
RoeyDalkus: hmm, can't post to #debian... no voice11:06
davixtnx Dalkus11:06
DalkuseYeStRaIn, when your computer boots, look for when it says something about an "interactive startup" it might ask to press I. If you see that, press I and select Y for everything that isnt hotplug, and N for hotplug11:06
dryadzyga - I've been there already, yet I can't find gnome-background-properties in there.11:06
DalkusRoey, try another server? :) maybe undernet?11:07
RoeyDalkus: another linux maybe ;)11:07
eYeStRaInDalkus: i'll try that, do i need to put something on grub to activate interactive startup?11:07
DalkusRoey, that seems to be a linux problem rather than a distro specific problem, so just ask around... If your part of any mailing lists that might be a good place to ask11:07
DalkuseYeStRaIn, nope. When you see the list of deamons starting up... followed by [OK] . You should have the option for interactive startup11:08
Dalkusthat basically lets you choose what starts up, so just dont let hotplug start and see hwo far that gets you11:08
difektai have this weird issue.  i just bought a new lcd monitor, and when my screen locks, two pixels in the red portion of the ubuntu logo look dead.  but in no other case do they look problematic.  anyone else have this issue?11:08
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zenwhen How well do you think Ubuntu will respond to switching from an i865 based board to an i875P based board without a reinstall?11:08
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Dalkusdifekta, check the forums, that might be a hardware cursur problem - but im not sure. There is info on the forums about how to fix that11:09
zenroxzenwhen,  a lote11:09
Bazzizenwhen it will kernalpanic11:09
difektainteresting11:09
Bazzi(j/k)11:09
zenwhenEven though the chips are very close?11:09
DalkusI'm not sure if thats you problem, difekta - but try it :)11:09
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zenwhenSo i would need to chroot in and redo the initrd?11:09
eYeStRaInDalkus: unfortunately it didnt show up any interactive startup :(11:09
zenroxzenwhen,  i had probs going from i845gl going to i845ge11:10
zenwhenI really hope i can avoid a reinstall.11:10
zenwhenBut this board is on the firtz.11:10
zenwhenfritz*11:10
SiRrUsgood afternoon11:10
DalkuseYeStRaIn, is the point that it freezes during the list of [OK] 's?11:11
zenroxzenwhen,  ya i can understand11:11
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BanditSiRrUs i keep telling you they dont greet in here11:11
SiRrUsi see11:11
SiRrUstheir loss ;)11:12
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dryadzyga: what am I supposed to reinstall with synaptic? - I've got no clue on what package that contains gnome-background-properties11:13
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eYeStRaInDalkus: yes, exactly the [OK] s list when hotplug came up, it freezes11:14
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vinsee:[11:14
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vinseeis this warty?11:15
vinseeor hoary11:15
DalkuseYeStRaIn, what error does it give?11:15
Elsidoxcan someone tell me where my fstab config file is located?11:15
zygadryad: dpkg-query -s gnome-background-properties11:15
vinseein the /etc folder11:15
Elsidoxvinsee, thanks11:15
DalkusElsidox, make a backup first :)11:15
dryadzyga: alright, thank you!11:15
DalkusElsidox, sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old11:16
eYeStRaInDalkus: i dont see any error, it just freezes11:16
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SiRrUseveryone running hoary or warty11:16
difektadoes anyone know how to simply make the gdm spawn logins in a new xserver, leaving the gdm in its current xserver+11:16
vinseeeyestrain: is this hoary?11:16
difektahoary11:16
dryadzyga: Package `gnome-background-properties' is not installed and no info is available.11:16
zygahmm11:16
dryadzyga: That's what I expected - the package isn't named that.11:16
ElsidoxDalkus, woops i didnt mean fstab. Im looking for the file where you can chnage your resoultion. Right now i can only go up to 1024x76811:16
DalkuseYeStRaIn, brb, I have to restart and It's an opportunity to try and see how to enable interactive startup11:16
vinseexorg.conf11:16
zygadryad: -S11:16
vinseetry /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:17
zygadryad: sorry, -s is status, -S is search :-)11:17
DalkusElsidox, you can't go higer if X dosn't think you can :)11:17
Elsidoxvinsee, thanks again11:17
DalkusCarefull... you might mes your monitor up11:17
Dalkusbrb11:17
vinseealthough you should probbaly use xorgconfig11:17
DalkusBe very careful11:17
ElsidoxDalkus, ive done it on ubuntu in the past. =)11:17
zygadryad: -S searches for filename patterns11:18
zygadryad: try reinstalling ubuntu-artwork, capplets and capplets-data11:19
vinseeor just reinstall ubuntu altogether11:19
vinseeteehee11:19
Elsidoxis 1280x1024 a good resolution. I had mine set somewhere around there I just cant remember.11:19
dryadzyga: just did... no luck though :/11:20
vinseedryad: reinstall ubuntu11:20
vinseebetter yet11:20
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vinseewait until 5.04 proper11:20
vinseeand then reinstall11:20
zygadryad: what did you do to break it?11:20
zygadryad: try running it from terminal11:20
zygadryad: and see what it says before dying11:20
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dabugashi11:21
dryadzyga: I think it broke when I installed the ubuntu-calendar-* packages11:21
dryadokay, I'll try that11:21
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vinseethe installation probably inadvertently removed some of your packages...11:21
dryadzyga: I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/usr/share/gnome-background-properties/gnome-wallpaper-propert11:21
zygadryad: hmm doubtfull - they only contain images and bunch of xml files11:21
difektacan someone tell me where to put this script this guy suggests running? http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2002/06/msg00322.html11:21
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Elsidoxmeh =(11:22
Elsidoxhow can I make me resolution go higher than 1024x76811:22
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Elsidoxmy*11:22
zygadryad: try removing ubuntu-calendar for a moment11:22
difektaElsidox you can edit xorg.conf11:22
shekhar_hello can someone help me with synaptic11:22
vinseedoes your monitor/video card support resolutions higher than that?11:22
zygaand remove one of your config files, w811:22
dryadzyga: did - and reinstalled those packages - no luck11:22
Elsidoxdifekta, I just tryed to do that11:22
Elsidoxdifekta, do i have to restart?11:22
vinseelol11:23
vinseeyes restart11:23
vinseesudo reboot11:23
zygadryad: rm ~/.gnome/backgrounds.xml11:23
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Elsidoxi did a ctrl alt backspace11:23
Elsidox=)11:23
difektayou shouldn't have to restart.11:23
difektait should work as soon as you spawn a new xserver.11:23
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vinseeelsidox:do sudo xorgconfig11:23
dabugasi've been sort of updating to hoary from wary and the desktop (nautilus) has stopped showing up my windows drive. i can access it through the terminal and it's in fstab. any ideas?11:23
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difektayou can also use the settings in the menu right?11:23
dryadzyga: same error11:23
difektaon this help page, this guy shows a script he wrote to do multiple logins.  can anyone tell me where i should actually _put_ the script? http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2002/06/msg00322.html11:24
Elsidoxvinsee, im to much of a newb to go threw that11:24
dryadzyga: The file "gnome-background-properties/gnome-wallpaper-properties" is a symlink - is it supposed to be that?11:25
Elsidoxvinsee, I could set my res higher but after I installed the nvidia driver I cant anymore.11:25
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vinseereally11:25
vinseedid you say nvidia11:25
Elsidoxyes11:25
vinseeok go to your xorg.conf11:25
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vinseechange "nv" to "nvidia"11:25
Elsidoxim there11:25
zygadryad: did you paste the whole error message?11:25
Elsidoxk11:25
nugewhat would y'all suggest for a laptop install filesystem.. ext3 or xfs ? :)11:25
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dryadyes zyga, the error message I pasted was the complete error.11:26
drasko_how to erase rw cd? In Graveman and in K3B that apperation alway fails...11:26
Elsidoxvinsee, its already like that11:26
vinseeis it?11:26
vinseehmmm.11:26
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vinseewhat resolution are you trying to set it to?11:26
dryadI just tried to unlink that symlink - now gnome-background-properties doesn't crash anymore, however, there's no backgrounds in the list anymore either.11:26
Elsidoxshould I just change my deafault to 1080x1024 and save than reboot?11:26
dryadoh wait, now there is - guess they just had to load for a second11:26
dryadproblem resolved I guess :)11:26
vinsee1280x1024 you mean?11:26
Elsidoxyes lol11:27
zygadryad: whad did you unlink?11:27
swilryHello. Maybe someone can help me solve a problem with kubuntu...11:27
davixwhat is a good terminal that emulates ansi for linux (in order to connect to a bbs-telnet)?11:27
gdhswilry: #kubuntu might be able to :)11:27
vinseeswilry: sure. get ubuntu :p11:27
dryadzyga: The symlink /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/gnome-wallpaper-properties11:27
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swilrythanks ;)11:27
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vinseeyes11:27
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Elsidoxok ill give it a try11:27
Elsidoxbrb11:27
apokryphosswilry: if it's KDE-related, it should be in there. If it isn't, then this is a better place.11:27
vinseeelsidox: set it to 1280x1024, but make sure you back up your xorg.conf11:27
dryadzyga: It was a symlink to /usr/share/gnome-wallpaper-properties, which does not exist11:28
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Elsidoxvinsee, thanks11:28
mackidi wish i had a monitor for my PC that could support 1280x1024...11:28
vinseehey does nayone if gnome is more efficient than kde11:28
vinseein terms of memory11:28
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mackidvinsee, it is11:28
vinseeok11:28
swilryit's kde related, but I don't see any #kubuntu channel...11:28
vinseesome dude said they're about the same11:28
Xappenuge, well, my ibook with ext3 totally crashed a couple of days ago, probably caused by a rough train ride :/11:28
dabugasi've been sort of updating to hoary from wary and the desktop (nautilus) has stopped showing up my windows drive. i can access it through the terminal and it's in fstab. any ideas?11:28
gdhI feel that GNOME is slower - no measurements, just my opinion11:28
apokryphosswilry: it's there. :)11:28
mackidswilry: /join #kubuntu11:28
dabugasvinsee: it always depends on what you use11:29
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jessica_I'm running hoary and have openoffice.org and openoffice.org-gtk-gnome installed, but still no gnome-like open and save menus in openoffice.org. I did dpkg-reconfigure on both packages without success. How to get the nice gnome menus?11:29
swilryjusty a misspell sorry :(11:29
nugexappe, sucks man, sorry to hear about that. but do you think a different filesystem would have made a difference?11:29
swilry/bye11:29
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Xappenuge, i don't know11:29
nugexappe, so it's unrecoverable?11:29
Xappenuge, i was able to repair the damage with fsck though11:29
nugeah ok11:29
Xappeit suddenly became unbootable11:30
vinseehow much more memory does kde11:30
vinseetake up11:30
vinseecompared to gnome11:30
dabugasvinsee: in my tests (ubuntu vs knoppix installed) kde _feels_ faster but generally takes up more resources11:30
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vinseeah11:30
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veristeadhey can i get some help in here11:30
Elsidoxahhhh good ol' 1280x1024 =)11:30
gdhdabugas: I think I'd rather have that :) RAM cheaper than CPU :)11:30
Elsidoxvinsee, thanks again. Its workign great. =)11:30
dabugasvinsee: how much do you have?11:30
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vinsee512mb11:31
veristeadanyone ?11:31
vinseeno prob elsidox11:31
mackidveristead, just ask a question11:31
ElsidoxI just switch from ubuntu to foresight linux back to ubuntu11:31
vinseeforesight?11:31
vinseenever heard of that one11:31
vinseethere's just way too many to keep track of :)11:31
mackidme neither.  hmm  foresight.  interestin name for a linux distro11:32
|QuaD-vinsee: decent distro.... had lots of bleeding edge things built in11:32
dabugasgdh: i've been away from the linux world for some time. knoppix installed vs ubuntu; i take the later11:32
Elsidoxvinsee, http://www.foresightlinux.com/11:32
shekhar_is there anyone who can help me with a synaptic installation which stopped while the packages were installed?11:32
universalcan someone help me with hoary and Nvidia drivers?11:32
mackiduniversal, i might be able to help11:32
dabugasi have a silly amd at 400-something and gnome works better overall than kde11:32
dabugasbut not a fan of either, to be honest11:32
|QuaD-universal: www.ubuntuguide.org11:32
gdhdabugas: KNOPPIX is a gaudy piece of shit =)11:32
vinseeuniversal: www.ubuntuguide.org11:32
vinseehaha11:32
universalok, thx11:32
vinseebeat me to it :)11:32
|QuaD-vinsee: :)11:32
gdhIt doesn't take much to make KDE look really really tacky11:32
eYeStRaInim going to try knoppix, ubuntu is giving me problem installing it on my laptop11:32
Elsidoxvinsee, the distro ram slow but I had f-stop and all the other good stuff. =)11:32
mackiduniversal: yeah, but try www.ubuntuguide.org first ;)11:33
Elsidoxran*11:33
mhzping bur[n] er11:33
Elsidoxvinsee, sorry for my typing. lol11:33
vinseeicic11:33
Elsidoxanyways11:33
mhzbur[n] er: ping :)11:33
vinseehey no prob =p11:33
dabugasgdh: both kde & gnome are bloated shit... what you use really depends on preference11:33
Elsidoxhow hard is it to install beagle?11:33
vinseeanybody here taking (or has taken) an algorithms course?11:33
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dabugasi was running dvd shrink with wine the other day and it ran better than win xp11:33
veristeadeverytime i launch Network Settings (Worty) i punch in my password and then i get a message saying "The Configuration Could not be loaded, There was an error running the backend script"  What do i do to fix this11:33
Seveasvinsee, i have taken several11:33
dabugasin gnome... that's what i'm interested in :)11:34
gdhdabugas: Yeh, but A vs. B wars are a fun way to waste time =)11:34
SeveasElsidox, hard, wait for breezy11:34
veristeadit happens on a couple of utilities11:34
vinseeseveas: did you like it ? :P11:34
Seveasvinsee, a lot11:34
mhzbur[n] er: "Ubuntu's default installation of CUPS only listens for local IPP connections. At the present time you have to edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to make it available to other machines on your LAN. There are two things that must be changed:11:34
vinseeok11:34
mhz   1.11:34
mhz      A line that has Listen 127.0.0.1:631 can be replaced by Port 631 to listen on all network interfaces, or, if you have a more complex setup and don't want to listen on all interfaces,you can add additional Listen lines for each IP address that you want it to hear.11:34
mhz   2.11:34
mhz      There's a group of lines that further limit what listened-to traffic will be processed. By default it only allows internal loopback (that's the 127.0.0.1 address). You can add individual IP addresses in addition Allow lines, or whole blocks such as a typical router's internal network with 192.168.1.*. With the latter added, the block looks like ..."11:34
Seveasmhz, no pasting please11:34
mackideck, flood11:34
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veristeadin my system configuration menu11:34
dabugasgdh: like i said: i've been away for some time. that was part of the reason... waiting for the dust to clear up :)11:34
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ElsidoxSeveas, isnt breezy far away thow?11:34
Seveasuse #flood or a pastebin11:34
Seveasbreezy is 6 months away11:34
mhzSeveas: ok, sorry.11:34
vinseeim trying to decide whether to take a course on user interface11:34
vinsees11:34
vinseeor efficient algorithms11:34
mackidhey, is there a guide somewhere on getting Wine or WineX to work (and what's the difference)11:34
Seveasdo the latter11:34
veristeadanyone?11:35
mhzSeveas: urls are ok ?11:35
vinseereally? ok :P11:35
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Seveasmhz, sure :)11:35
voltagexI've successfully killed X and I have no idea how.11:35
mhzok11:35
veristeadANYONE?11:35
Elsidoxmackid, winex is now cedega and cedega runs windows games.11:35
mackidElsidox, and it's not free, correct?11:35
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mackidU$D 5/mo or something?11:35
universalmackid, can u help?=11:36
mjrit's proprietary, yes11:36
dabugasso can anyone help me with my disappeared desktop icon?11:36
vinseewell11:36
veristeadthis channel has never actually solved any of my questions completely11:36
vinseenot if you get the CVS11:36
Ubabehey people, say if I wanted to download an application that isnt in the synaptic package manager...11:36
gdhIt's on eMule if you desperately want to save 5 bucks :|11:36
veristeadso i dnt even know why i am bothering now11:36
mhzbur[n] er: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/OldFrequentlyAskedQuestions and go to "How can I share my printer on my LAN?"11:36
Ubabe...say just any ordinary application11:36
jessica_how to make openoffice.org use the gnome-save and -open dialogs? I have openoffice.org-gtk-gnome installed on warty, but it doesn't work11:36
veristeadi've been trying for almost 3 months to get this working11:36
Xappehmm, how do I get mounted volumes to show up at least in the Places menu (they showed suddenly some minutes ago, but not regularly, so to say)11:36
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vinseeseveas: the book is 4 inches thick11:37
universalmackid, u there=11:37
mackiduniversal, maybe.. what's your problem?  did you do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx?11:37
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universal?11:37
vinseeliterally11:37
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dabugasah.. Xappe... we have the same problem :)11:37
universalmackid, yeah i did that, normally im running Warty, but now i tryed Hoary, and then my nvidia doesent work11:37
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Xappedabugas: ah, I see. haven't really thought about it, but it came to my mind when they suddenly showed up...11:38
gipfex_hi!11:38
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Ubabedo i have to reboot after i do apt-get update?11:38
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mackiduniversal: uname -r11:38
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universalmackid, 2.6.10-5-38611:38
mackidmy nvidia worked perfectly fine after installing nvidia-glx from apt11:38
connerUbabe: only if you updated the kernel.11:38
gipfex_i want upgrade ubuntu warty to hoary...but the apt dont upgrade and i changed the sources.list...11:39
mackiduniversal, it should work.  check your xorg.conf, make sure nvidia is the driver11:39
universalmackid,glxgears11:39
universalXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".11:39
universalglxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.11:39
universalroot@Universal:/home/universal #11:39
dabugasXappe: i partially upgraded from warty to hoary; that's when it stopped showing up: on the desktop on places, everywhere11:39
mackidgipfex_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:39
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mackiduniversal: so X will run?11:39
universalmackid, yes11:39
maxcheeis there an easy way to make custom meta-packages?11:39
gipfex_mackid: do the same...11:39
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dabugasXappe: i'm installing the latest nautilus just in case11:40
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phisiusyop11:40
mackiduniversal, go to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add under modules Load "glx"11:40
universalmackid, im not going to run nv instead of Nvidia?11:40
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mackiduniversal, you shouldn't have to, if your xorg.conf is set up correctly11:40
Xappedabugas: i've never used warty. upgraded to hoary right away in november, and now i have a fresh install from array 711:40
mackiduniversal: i have to go.  I will be back in 30-45 minutes, if you are still having a problem i will help you then11:41
RoeyHi.  In booting Ubuntu I get this:  Kernel panic - not syncing: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0).  How can I fix it?11:41
Xappedabugas, fresh and daily updated that is11:41
universalmackid, ok i will do that, but is it normal that there is a XF86Config-4 in /etc/X11/xorg??11:41
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mackiduniversal: no, that's not normal, if you're running hoary...11:42
mackidsomeone else should be able to help.  i'll be back later.11:42
smurfixuniversal: did you upgrade from warty?11:42
universalmackid, no!11:42
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universalno11:42
universalisnt that wierd?11:42
SiRrUsi did ;)11:43
smurfixuniversal: weird even ;-)11:43
geneo91universal:  mine has it also11:43
smurfixuniversal: Does "dpkg -S /etc/X11/XF86Config-4" say anything?11:43
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geneo91just got left there from warty11:44
universalsmurfix, nope11:44
bur[n] eranyone know where to get drivers for an hp psc 1209 printer?11:44
smurfixgeneo91: he didn't have warty ...11:44
magnuslyI resized an NTFS partition (WinXP) while installing the 5.04 preview and was left with an unbootable partition.11:44
drasko_how to erase rw cd? In Graveman and in K3B that apperation alway fails...11:45
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black_nightmarehey there11:45
smurfixdrasko_: cdrecord blank=fast dev=/dev/cdrom11:45
geneo91smurfix:  maybe its something that depends on that file being there11:45
magnuslyI can mount it from Linux, but ls -R gives I/O error on some directories. Any tips?11:45
black_nightmareany of you used the fast! qemu thats on ubuntu repositories?11:45
tritiumblack_nightmare, yes11:46
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black_nightmaretritium what yours emulating now?11:46
smurfixmagnusly: restore from backup :-/11:46
tritiumblack_nightmare, nothing now11:46
SiRrUsbur[n] er you may have to settle for a 121011:46
bur[n] erSiRrUs: i tried that, but it doesn't seem to work11:46
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black_nightmareoh hm11:47
tritiumblack_nightmare, you?11:47
black_nightmareand I was wondering if it was worth trying..hmmm.....11:47
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SiRrUsbur[n] er i see11:47
drasko_smurfix, it gives me: Error trying to open /dev/cdrom exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.... and so on...11:47
black_nightmareguess I'll hell download it and see if it works out well11:47
InitMassis there any app that can change the size of several images at a time in ubuntu?11:47
tritiumblack_nightmare, I was using it to test LiveCDs11:47
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bur[n] erSiRrUs: i'm thinking i might be SOL :\  this was my last resort to ask in irc ;)11:47
LeeJunFanis there a way dpkg or apt can verify files installed on the system from a package? ie. md5 or something?11:47
black_nightmareoh... tritium in that case....didn't have any difficult running still?11:48
tritiumblack_nightmare, I ran into problems when X tried to load11:48
SiRrUs:)11:48
jaslor_MHzhow do I compile a small app ?11:48
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smurfixdrasko_: unmount the CD first!11:49
black_nightmareic tritium11:49
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tritiumWhat's up SiRrUs? :)11:49
Seveasjaslor_MHz, depends on the app11:49
smurfixdrasko_: Apparently the erase features in your favorite programs don't do that. Please file bugs. It works in Nautilus.11:50
Seveasusually you need to do the ./configure make make install dance11:50
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mhzSeveas: hmmm, i am not jaslor_MHz , i am mhz11:50
Seveasmhz, did i call you?11:50
universalsmurfix, should the module be nv or nvidia?11:51
mhzI got a beep and a graphic sign11:51
Seveasmhz, not from me11:51
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drasko_smurfix, wow! That did it! Thanks!11:51
mhzSeveas: ah, np :)11:51
smurfixuniversal: I don't know, I don't have an nvidia card11:51
dampjamI'm trying to install libdvdcss, but synaptic cannot find it, and when I run apt-get install libdvdcss2 it says that there is no installation canidate11:51
tritiumuniversal, what are you trying to do?11:51
jaslor_MHzuniversal : module is nvidia11:51
Seveasdampjam: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main (use testing main for Warty)11:52
Seveasuse that archive11:52
dampjami'm running hoary11:52
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SiRrUsuniversal mine is nv11:52
jaslor_MHzanyone want to help confuse me by telling me how to compile something ?11:53
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SiRrUsjaslor_MHz :)11:53
tritiumSiRrUs, you're not using the nVidia modules instead?11:53
Seveasjaslor_MHz, i thought you were cunfused enough already :)11:53
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Seveaswhich program is it?11:53
SiRrUstritium appears i am and everything is working11:54
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tritiumI use them11:54
jaslor_MHzcapture for operating a canon powershot11:54
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PecKhello all11:55
Seveashi11:55
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SiRrUshello11:55
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DavidSaghello11:56
SiRrUshi11:56
fireglowhey11:56
Seveasbuon giorno11:56
DavidSagmay i ask a novice question ?11:56
oris_wolfbanehey room11:56
SeveasDavidSag, sure11:56
PecKok now I can't seem to install rpm's with ubuntu... *.deb is fine with dpkg, but it doesn't work with rpm and double clicking doesn't work either... help?11:56
jaslor_MHzhello11:57
phanterPeck11:57
PecKphanter11:57
phanterPecK: use alien11:57
Seveaspeck, you might try running alien on the rpm11:57
Seveasthat will give you a deb11:57
DavidSagi've installed Ubunto few days ago, however, i can't seem to work my ethernet card..11:57
Seveasbut a better way is searching for an available deb11:57
Seveaswhich application is it?11:57
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PecKphanter and Seveas thx :)11:57
PecKit's apradar11:57
PecKwifi ap scanner and connection manager11:57
ellstritium:hey Mike what is up11:57
tritiumHi ells :)11:58
smurfixDavidSag: so which card do you have?11:58
tritiumNot much going on here.  You visiting with father and brother?11:58
jaslor_MHzDavidSag : What card is it ? What does $ ifconfig /eth0 say ?11:58
SeveasDavidSag, describr "cant seem to work"11:58
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Seveasifconfig eth0 that is11:58
ellstritium: got a question? how can I check how much mem is on my onboard video. yeap, just picked up my brother from denver11:58
Seveasno /11:58
DavidSagit's a realtek, a very generic card..11:58
PecKphanter, should I type alien -ri pack.rpm ?11:58
SeveasDavidSag, that should work11:58
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smurfixDavidSag: Does it show with "lspci"?11:59
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Seveasnarf11:59
Seveasspamming idiots11:59
PecKindeed11:59
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s3ng3k3http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/http://l1lch1x.site.voila.fr/ht11:59
beaniebabyhey ya'll11:59
oris_wolfbanebeaniebaby, heyz11:59
tritiumells, not sure, actually11:59
beaniebabyhi tom11:59
Aghasterhi11:59
PecKhey11:59
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SeveasDavidSag, does ifconfig eth0 say anything?11:59
ellstritium: just curious to see if it will support ut2004 somehow11:59
jaslor_MHzDavidSag : Can you ping google.com ?12:00

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