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| Roey | hi | 01:42 |
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| Roey | can I borrow anyone for fs driver help in #ubuntu, please? | 01:42 |
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| fabbione | + Changes by Matthew Garrett: | 05:58 |
| fabbione | + | 05:58 |
| fabbione | + * Make hardware sleep sequence more compliant to ACPI specifications: | 05:58 |
| fabbione | + - Add patch acpi_gpe_spec.dpatch. | 05:58 |
| fabbione | + | 05:58 |
| fabbione | mjg59: ^^ | 05:58 |
| fabbione | does it look ok? | 05:58 |
| zul | gday | 06:36 |
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| fabbione | hey zul | 06:40 |
| zul | hey fabbione good holiday? | 06:40 |
| fabbione | zul: more or less.. a bit heavy | 06:40 |
| fabbione | had to do quite a lot of work in the house | 06:40 |
| zul | cool.. | 06:40 |
| zul | hah hah :) | 06:40 |
| zul | i still get today off | 06:41 |
| fabbione | it was off today too | 06:41 |
| fabbione | but i am working on the xen kernels | 06:41 |
| fabbione | i have almost finished :) | 06:41 |
| zul | ah how are they coming? | 06:41 |
| zul | neat | 06:41 |
| fabbione | they are building :-) | 06:41 |
| zul | i was doing some kernel janitorial stuff this weekend | 06:41 |
| zul | and playing with 2.6.12-rc1 | 06:41 |
| fabbione | neat | 06:42 |
| fabbione | -32 is ready for upload | 06:42 |
| fabbione | we need the usual round of buildd | 06:42 |
| fabbione | but i will wait tomorrow to do it | 06:42 |
| zul | more security updates? | 06:42 |
| fabbione | yes | 06:42 |
| zul | seesh | 06:42 |
| fabbione | and an urgent acpi fix | 06:42 |
| zul | oh? | 06:43 |
| fabbione | it's something simple, but fixes a lot of "go to sleep" issues | 06:43 |
| zul | cool | 06:43 |
| fabbione | as soon as RC is out and -32 uploaded | 06:43 |
| fabbione | we need to start focusing on breezy | 06:43 |
| zul | already have ;) | 06:44 |
| fabbione | yeah we need to put down a TODO list | 06:44 |
| zul | i started a todo list on the wiki and i have a list of third party drivers ill put in the wiki as well | 06:44 |
| fabbione | zul: it's in the debian/ dir too | 06:45 |
| zul | is is? i didnt see it :) | 06:45 |
| fabbione | external-drivers or something like that | 06:45 |
| zul | ah ok | 06:45 |
| fabbione | yeah i did start writing and updating it | 06:45 |
| fabbione | there is stuff missing there | 06:45 |
| fabbione | like the mppe driver | 06:45 |
| zul | k ill update it as well | 06:45 |
| fabbione | that i figured only a few days ago | 06:45 |
| fabbione | we will need to split the tasks for the first 2/3 weeks | 06:46 |
| zul | the 64bit ppp-mppe? | 06:46 |
| fabbione | yeah that one.. | 06:46 |
| fabbione | but it's not 64bit clean | 06:46 |
| zul | there were some patches i saw for ibm thinkpad notebooks as well i saw on lkml a while ago | 06:48 |
| fabbione | yes | 06:48 |
| fabbione | i saw them too | 06:48 |
| fabbione | but we will not add it back until it is upstream | 06:48 |
| fabbione | there were several problems with that patch | 06:48 |
| zul | yeah i saw | 06:48 |
| fabbione | so i had rather avoid another war of include/exclude | 06:49 |
| zul | sure.. | 06:49 |
| fabbione | when it is upstream, we will include | 06:49 |
| zul | put the todo list on the agenda for the meeting as well | 06:50 |
| fabbione | yeah ... let's keep it in the aob | 06:50 |
| zul | sure | 06:50 |
| zul | hostap is not in the list? | 06:57 |
| fabbione | probably yes | 06:58 |
| fabbione | i would like to chase the list down first | 06:58 |
| fabbione | and see what is the status of the actual drivers | 06:59 |
| fabbione | i see 3 steps here | 06:59 |
| fabbione | 1) clean | 06:59 |
| fabbione | 2) forwardport to the new kernel | 06:59 |
| fabbione | 3) add new drivers | 06:59 |
| zul | heh...i think i figured out why gentoo can distribute win4lin http://www.digitalriver.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.Entry17c?CID=0&SID=40113&SP=10007&PN=5&PID=481292&DSP=&CUR=124&PGRP=0&CACHE_ID=0 | 07:02 |
| fabbione | brrrrr | 07:03 |
| zul | loosers :) | 07:03 |
| jbailey | I might have a bug that involves firmware loading on an amd64 (8224) - Is that generally expected to work? | 07:35 |
| jbailey | (I don't have an amd64, so no exposure) | 07:36 |
| zul | no amd64 here either.. | 07:37 |
| zul | fabbione: updated the external-drivers in my baz | 07:39 |
| fabbione | zul: ok | 07:40 |
| fabbione | jbailey: checking the bug, but i don't have amd64 | 07:40 |
| fabbione | jbailey: it would be more important imho to get udev fixed for firewire | 07:41 |
| fabbione | mantiena was talkign about it on #u-d | 07:41 |
| fabbione | i will look into the firware issue in a few sec. | 07:42 |
| fabbione | i already had something like that for another driver | 07:42 |
| jbailey | Yup. I'm just going over my list of new bugs to see if they are things I actually have the skills to fix. =) | 07:42 |
| fabbione | jbailey: the bug is still assigned to me | 07:42 |
| fabbione | #3609 | 07:43 |
| jbailey | Oh? Hmm. Bugzilla was sending me emails about it, so I assumed it was assigned to me. | 07:43 |
| fabbione | the changes to do are pretty simple | 07:43 |
| fabbione | probably you are in CC | 07:43 |
| zul | bbiab must clean the guinea pig cage | 07:53 |
| fabbione | xen images are almost ready... | 08:01 |
| fabbione | i am getting the abi files now | 08:01 |
| jbailey | I should learn more about xen sometime. | 08:02 |
| fabbione | jbailey: it is really neat | 08:03 |
| fabbione | i have been playing with it the last week | 08:03 |
| fabbione | basically it allows you to do hw partitioning | 08:03 |
| fabbione | + other nice stuff | 08:03 |
| fabbione | jbailey: i am pretty sure you are familiar with the concept of execution domain | 08:04 |
| jbailey | Yeah. | 08:04 |
| fabbione | each domain is like a real machine | 08:04 |
| jbailey | We had large sparc setups at my last job. | 08:04 |
| fabbione | but it's not | 08:04 |
| fabbione | jbailey: exactly like the e10k | 08:04 |
| fabbione | except that is done in software | 08:04 |
| jbailey | These were sunfire racks, but yeah. | 08:04 |
| fabbione | you run a master domain that boots the real machine and identify/access the hardware | 08:05 |
| fabbione | and small subdomains | 08:05 |
| fabbione | to which you assign hardware | 08:05 |
| fabbione | that's basically what xen does | 08:05 |
| fabbione | but it has some extra features | 08:05 |
| fabbione | like the possiblity to migrate one domain to another host in the same lan | 08:05 |
| jbailey | Does it do virtualisation for sharing resources like NICs and disks? | 08:05 |
| jbailey | Oh nice. =) | 08:05 |
| fabbione | from the master domain you export one or more block devices to each domain | 08:06 |
| fabbione | it can also be nfs or whatever | 08:06 |
| fabbione | more domains can share the same device | 08:06 |
| jbailey | Cool, so it's not necessarily whole disk. | 08:06 |
| fabbione | with the usual rw/ro limitations | 08:06 |
| fabbione | not at all | 08:06 |
| fabbione | you can export a partition or a lvm partition | 08:06 |
| fabbione | one limitation that i need to check is how it handles the ram allocation | 08:07 |
| fabbione | right now each domain has its own ram allocated | 08:07 |
| fabbione | that makes it a bit less dynamic than UML | 08:07 |
| fabbione | that can see the whole memory | 08:07 |
| fabbione | but the domains can't interfere with each other | 08:07 |
| fabbione | with xen, you assign N MB and the domain can see only that | 08:08 |
| fabbione | so basically you are limited in that way | 08:08 |
| jbailey | Still nice, though. | 08:08 |
| jbailey | I can imagine some nice stuff being done with a SAN and a heavily SMP box for ISPs and whatnot. | 08:09 |
| fabbione | actually SMP is not supported yet (as 2.6.10) | 08:09 |
| fabbione | or at least it looks disabled as config option and it just does it | 08:09 |
| fabbione | because it is mentioned everywhere that you can bind a specific domain to a certain CP | 08:10 |
| fabbione | CPU | 08:10 |
| fabbione | or keep it in loadsharing | 08:10 |
| fabbione | btw the scheduler is highly tunable | 08:10 |
| fabbione | i am off for dinner :-) | 08:10 |
| fabbione | bbl | 08:10 |
| jbailey | 'bye Fabio. Thanks for the explanation. =) | 08:11 |
| zul | c ya | 08:13 |
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| zul | heh i had mcdicks for lunch | 08:28 |
| fabbione | ehehe | 08:28 |
| fabbione | there we go... abi files generated! | 08:29 |
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| zul | cool...i just sent my first patches to kernel-janitors ml | 11:18 |
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