=== Roey [~knoppix@pcp04370251pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:42] hi [01:42] can I borrow anyone for fs driver help in #ubuntu, please? === jabbath [~jabbath@p5485CD99.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === cc [~cc@byte.fedora] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Seveaz [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:58] + Changes by Matthew Garrett: [05:58] + [05:58] + * Make hardware sleep sequence more compliant to ACPI specifications: [05:58] + - Add patch acpi_gpe_spec.dpatch. [05:58] + [05:58] mjg59: ^^ [05:58] does it look ok? [06:36] gday === Seveaz [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:40] hey zul [06:40] hey fabbione good holiday? [06:40] zul: more or less.. a bit heavy [06:40] had to do quite a lot of work in the house [06:40] cool.. [06:40] hah hah :) [06:41] i still get today off [06:41] it was off today too [06:41] but i am working on the xen kernels [06:41] i have almost finished :) [06:41] ah how are they coming? [06:41] neat [06:41] they are building :-) [06:41] i was doing some kernel janitorial stuff this weekend [06:41] and playing with 2.6.12-rc1 [06:42] neat [06:42] -32 is ready for upload [06:42] we need the usual round of buildd [06:42] but i will wait tomorrow to do it [06:42] more security updates? [06:42] yes [06:42] seesh [06:42] and an urgent acpi fix [06:43] oh? [06:43] it's something simple, but fixes a lot of "go to sleep" issues [06:43] cool [06:43] as soon as RC is out and -32 uploaded [06:43] we need to start focusing on breezy [06:44] already have ;) [06:44] yeah we need to put down a TODO list [06:44] i started a todo list on the wiki and i have a list of third party drivers ill put in the wiki as well [06:45] zul: it's in the debian/ dir too [06:45] is is? i didnt see it :) [06:45] external-drivers or something like that [06:45] ah ok [06:45] yeah i did start writing and updating it [06:45] there is stuff missing there [06:45] like the mppe driver [06:45] k ill update it as well [06:45] that i figured only a few days ago [06:46] we will need to split the tasks for the first 2/3 weeks [06:46] the 64bit ppp-mppe? [06:46] yeah that one.. [06:46] but it's not 64bit clean [06:48] there were some patches i saw for ibm thinkpad notebooks as well i saw on lkml a while ago [06:48] yes [06:48] i saw them too [06:48] but we will not add it back until it is upstream [06:48] there were several problems with that patch [06:48] yeah i saw [06:49] so i had rather avoid another war of include/exclude [06:49] sure.. [06:49] when it is upstream, we will include [06:50] put the todo list on the agenda for the meeting as well [06:50] yeah ... let's keep it in the aob [06:50] sure [06:57] hostap is not in the list? [06:58] probably yes [06:58] i would like to chase the list down first [06:59] and see what is the status of the actual drivers [06:59] i see 3 steps here [06:59] 1) clean [06:59] 2) forwardport to the new kernel [06:59] 3) add new drivers [07:02] heh...i think i figured out why gentoo can distribute win4lin http://www.digitalriver.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.Entry17c?CID=0&SID=40113&SP=10007&PN=5&PID=481292&DSP=&CUR=124&PGRP=0&CACHE_ID=0 [07:03] brrrrr [07:03] loosers :) [07:35] I might have a bug that involves firmware loading on an amd64 (8224) - Is that generally expected to work? [07:36] (I don't have an amd64, so no exposure) [07:37] no amd64 here either.. [07:39] fabbione: updated the external-drivers in my baz [07:40] zul: ok [07:40] jbailey: checking the bug, but i don't have amd64 [07:41] jbailey: it would be more important imho to get udev fixed for firewire [07:41] mantiena was talkign about it on #u-d [07:42] i will look into the firware issue in a few sec. [07:42] i already had something like that for another driver [07:42] Yup. I'm just going over my list of new bugs to see if they are things I actually have the skills to fix. =) [07:42] jbailey: the bug is still assigned to me [07:43] #3609 [07:43] Oh? Hmm. Bugzilla was sending me emails about it, so I assumed it was assigned to me. [07:43] the changes to do are pretty simple [07:43] probably you are in CC [07:53] bbiab must clean the guinea pig cage [08:01] xen images are almost ready... [08:01] i am getting the abi files now [08:02] I should learn more about xen sometime. [08:03] jbailey: it is really neat [08:03] i have been playing with it the last week [08:03] basically it allows you to do hw partitioning [08:03] + other nice stuff [08:04] jbailey: i am pretty sure you are familiar with the concept of execution domain [08:04] Yeah. [08:04] each domain is like a real machine [08:04] We had large sparc setups at my last job. [08:04] but it's not [08:04] jbailey: exactly like the e10k [08:04] except that is done in software [08:04] These were sunfire racks, but yeah. [08:05] you run a master domain that boots the real machine and identify/access the hardware [08:05] and small subdomains [08:05] to which you assign hardware [08:05] that's basically what xen does [08:05] but it has some extra features [08:05] like the possiblity to migrate one domain to another host in the same lan [08:05] Does it do virtualisation for sharing resources like NICs and disks? [08:05] Oh nice. =) [08:06] from the master domain you export one or more block devices to each domain [08:06] it can also be nfs or whatever [08:06] more domains can share the same device [08:06] Cool, so it's not necessarily whole disk. [08:06] with the usual rw/ro limitations [08:06] not at all [08:06] you can export a partition or a lvm partition [08:07] one limitation that i need to check is how it handles the ram allocation [08:07] right now each domain has its own ram allocated [08:07] that makes it a bit less dynamic than UML [08:07] that can see the whole memory [08:07] but the domains can't interfere with each other [08:08] with xen, you assign N MB and the domain can see only that [08:08] so basically you are limited in that way [08:08] Still nice, though. [08:09] I can imagine some nice stuff being done with a SAN and a heavily SMP box for ISPs and whatnot. [08:09] actually SMP is not supported yet (as 2.6.10) [08:09] or at least it looks disabled as config option and it just does it [08:10] because it is mentioned everywhere that you can bind a specific domain to a certain CP [08:10] CPU [08:10] or keep it in loadsharing [08:10] btw the scheduler is highly tunable [08:10] i am off for dinner :-) [08:10] bbl [08:11] 'bye Fabio. Thanks for the explanation. =) [08:13] c ya === fabbione happely burps [08:28] heh i had mcdicks for lunch [08:28] ehehe [08:29] there we go... abi files generated! === crimsun [~crimsun@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:18] cool...i just sent my first patches to kernel-janitors ml