| tritium | ldd returns similar info | 12:02 |
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| tritium | I'm expecting it to fail, but I'll try | 12:02 |
| herve | looking the priority list | 12:06 |
| herve | no one tempted to solve modconf? ;-) | 12:06 |
| dholbach | hahahaha | 12:06 |
| ogra | herve, go ahead | 12:06 |
| dholbach | with kernel2.6 yeah | 12:07 |
| tritium | I saw nvidia-settings on the list, and was going to take a look at it, and then I see daniels fixed it when I upgraded yesterday | 12:07 |
| herve | it will be entertainment compared to gcompris and qt/kde :-) | 12:07 |
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| herve | looking at that clearsilver package... I have doubt on the mental health of either the maintainer or the mentor... | 12:18 |
| dholbach | herve: just don't try to see sense in it | 12:19 |
| herve | I do for choosing between fixing this version | 12:19 |
| herve | or using the new one with a "oops! removed non-existent package from my control file!" changelog | 12:20 |
| herve | dholbach, to be sure | 12:23 |
| herve | are we supposed to remove packages from the list, once working on? | 12:23 |
| dholbach | yeah | 12:24 |
| herve | good! | 12:24 |
| herve | I made no mistake :-) | 12:24 |
| herve | guys, I need you to be sure I have turned mad | 12:28 |
| herve | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=clearsilver-dev&version=unstable&arch=i386 | 12:28 |
| herve | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=python2.3-clearsilver&version=unstable&arch=i386 | 12:28 |
| herve | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=python-clearsilver&version=unstable&arch=all | 12:28 |
| herve | what's the point of those empty packages, | 12:28 |
| herve | ?? | 12:28 |
| herve | "added -fPIC for building. Should help to build" | 12:32 |
| herve | yeah... it's not like the debian policy said it as "must"... | 12:33 |
| herve | is physical violence against a DD in violation of the CoC? | 12:35 |
| tseng | id say yes | 12:35 |
| tseng | unless its preauthorized by the TB or CC | 12:35 |
| herve | it's like that clearsilver package could have been packaged by my grandmother | 12:36 |
| dholbach | i think most canonical employees never even read the CoC | 12:36 |
| tseng | -fPIC should be applied to every library w/o any thought applied | 12:36 |
| herve | debian QA standards, heh... | 12:36 |
| tseng | its absolutely required on amd64, mips, and probably others | 12:36 |
| herve | tseng, the debian policy clearly says it | 12:36 |
| tseng | good. | 12:36 |
| herve | dholbach, you mean I could ask a canonical employee to torturate that guy? ;-) | 12:37 |
| dholbach | herve: of course | 12:37 |
| herve | yoohoo! | 12:37 |
| dholbach | i recall at least 4-5 people kicking, killing and xyz-ing stuff | 12:37 |
| herve | if that guy is a DD, I could have been for years | 12:38 |
| herve | </therapy> | 12:39 |
| === tritium gives herve electric shock therapy ;) | ||
| herve | wasn't enough, I still to get my nerves on something :-) | 12:42 |
| tritium | heh | 12:42 |
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| tritium | Well, removing the symlinks removes the lintian warnings, but the program doesn't run now. | 12:44 |
| dholbach | argl | 12:44 |
| dholbach | grm | 12:45 |
| dholbach | bad idea then | 12:45 |
| === tritium utters expletives under his breath | ||
| herve | dholbach, would you please upload that rott^Wwonderful clearsilver package? :-) | 12:52 |
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| herve | heya koke ! | 12:52 |
| koke | hi all! | 12:53 |
| koke | I'm at home again :D | 12:53 |
| dholbach | herve: of course | 12:53 |
| dholbach | koke: hellas | 12:53 |
| herve | koke, this means you're back for fixing the universe? ;-) | 12:53 |
| koke | herve: sure :P | 12:54 |
| herve | great! | 12:54 |
| herve | so we have all finish in a few hours now :-) | 12:54 |
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| herve | now I want to play with modconf :-) | 12:58 |
| dholbach | herve: erm | 12:58 |
| dholbach | herve: could it be they just never built? those 2.3-modules? | 12:58 |
| herve | they can | 12:59 |
| herve | but the maint invented some clearsilver1 package he never created | 01:00 |
| herve | what the... kernel-source 2.2.25 is in the archive :-) | 01:00 |
| dholbach | hm, you seem to remove the python2.3-modules | 01:00 |
| herve | and install python2.4-module :-) | 01:01 |
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| dholbach | i really have the biggest sympathy if you do that, but...hmmmmm | 01:01 |
| herve | let's pretend I haven't touched modconf at all... | 01:25 |
| dholbach | don't feel so obliged | 01:26 |
| herve | can I push it to the morgue? :-p | 01:27 |
| dholbach | don't think so | 01:27 |
| herve | dholbach, what is the number in parentheses next to the package? | 01:29 |
| herve | (in priority list) | 01:29 |
| dholbach | popcon rank | 01:29 |
| dholbach | popcon.debian.org | 01:29 |
| herve | er... | 01:30 |
| herve | are the most important packages at the top or bottom? | 01:30 |
| dholbach | top :-) | 01:30 |
| herve | hmm | 01:31 |
| herve | ho | 01:31 |
| herve | rank != score | 01:31 |
| herve | unless less is better :-) | 01:31 |
| herve | lamont, ping | 01:32 |
| herve | does anyone have an ia64? | 01:32 |
| ogra | herve, are we millionaires ? :-P | 01:33 |
| herve | not all of us ;-) | 01:33 |
| ogra | heh | 01:33 |
| herve | hmm | 01:34 |
| herve | kdebase should not be ther | 01:34 |
| herve | e | 01:34 |
| herve | it's in main | 01:34 |
| herve | move it the the mo... er I mean, remove it :-) | 01:35 |
| herve | the same goes for kdeaddons | 01:36 |
| herve | was something decided for kernel 2.4 packages? | 01:36 |
| ogra | they need to be in | 01:37 |
| dholbach | zul wanted to take care of those | 01:37 |
| dholbach | make them installable again | 01:37 |
| dholbach | or look which could be chucked out | 01:37 |
| ogra | probably hecould take modconf too | 01:37 |
| herve | who will otherwise? ;-) | 01:38 |
| ogra | fabio | 01:38 |
| dholbach | ok pals, i think i'm off for tonight | 01:39 |
| dholbach | see you tomorrow | 01:39 |
| lamont | herve: not really here - need to run off for a while | 01:39 |
| lamont | amu: kdepim-dev: Depends: kmail (= 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu5) but it is not going to be installed | 01:40 |
| lamont | is the new kdeaddons state | 01:40 |
| ogra | lamont, he's not here | 01:40 |
| ogra | lamont, -> -evel | 01:40 |
| ogra | devel | 01:40 |
| ogra | night dholbach | 01:41 |
| tritium | good night dholbach | 01:41 |
| dholbach | bye ogra | 01:41 |
| lamont | ogra: ah, | 01:41 |
| herve | I can't see what's wrong with svgalib1g(-dev) | 01:44 |
| herve | sure it's outdated | 01:44 |
| herve | but I still can install it | 01:44 |
| tritium | ogra, I poked amu about krecipes review | 01:44 |
| ogra | yup, i saw :) | 01:45 |
| tritium | cool :) | 01:48 |
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| lamont | herve: which platform? | 01:55 |
| lamont | and package... | 01:55 |
| herve | ia64 | 01:55 |
| herve | pidentd, a2ps and mpage | 01:55 |
| herve | seems they were blocked by these problems on the buildd | 01:56 |
| herve | pidentd could even be in the ia64 archive by now | 01:56 |
| lamont | grep svgalib_ buildLogs/Lists/hoary.all.* | 01:58 |
| lamont | buildLogs/Lists/hoary.all.i386:universe/libs/svgalib_1:1.4.3-20ubuntu2: Installed by buildd+terranova [optional:out-of-date] | 01:58 |
| lamont | that's what's wrong with svgalib... | 01:58 |
| lamont | it only exists on i386... | 01:58 |
| === lamont must go. | ||
| herve | I don't really know svgalib | 01:58 |
| herve | but what's wrong about it :-) | 01:59 |
| herve | thanks lamont | 01:59 |
| herve | night all | 02:18 |
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| crimsun | ok, I'm going to go ahead and transition python-kde3 if that's ok with others. | 05:55 |
| crimsun | Will wait one day for objections. | 05:56 |
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| schweeb | what's up tritium | 06:33 |
| tritium | Not much, how about you schweeb? | 06:34 |
| schweeb | trying to work up the energy to work on something before bed :) | 06:34 |
| tritium | It's pretty late already ;) | 06:35 |
| schweeb | yea, 11:40 already | 06:35 |
| tritium | yep | 06:36 |
| crimsun | evening you two ;) | 06:59 |
| tritium | hi crimsun. What did you just fix for GhostFaceKilla? | 07:00 |
| crimsun | tritium: .desktop entry for vlc was installed to wrong location in debian/rules (d'oh!) | 07:00 |
| tritium | nice fix :) | 07:01 |
| crimsun | I wish all fixes were that straightforward ;) | 07:01 |
| tritium | yeah | 07:02 |
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| trulux | heya | 10:20 |
| crimsun | I'm fine with the idea, trulux, but we need to go over them | 10:21 |
| trulux | crimsun: http://pearls.tuxedo-es.org/libssp/debian/ | 10:21 |
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| trulux | ogra: pitti commented to me that I can ask you too | 10:22 |
| trulux | hey doko | 10:22 |
| trulux | jezz, this ill is an asspain | 10:24 |
| crimsun | hmm | 10:25 |
| crimsun | 404 | 10:25 |
| trulux | crimsun: really? | 10:27 |
| trulux | it's mirrored | 10:27 |
| trulux | immediate solution: http://tuxedo-es.org/downloads/libssp/ | 10:28 |
| trulux | it's rsync'ed every hour with pearls.tuxe... | 10:28 |
| crimsun | any possibility that 2001:470:1f01:165::1 has a different config from 140.211.166.18? | 10:29 |
| crimsun | apparently I'm hitting the ipv6 addr | 10:29 |
| trulux | then that's the problem | 10:30 |
| trulux | I will report it to OFTC | 10:30 |
| crimsun | thanks. | 10:30 |
| trulux | thanks for noticing it :) | 10:30 |
| crimsun | np :) | 10:30 |
| trulux | reported | 10:31 |
| crimsun | hmm, I'll just trick moz-firefox into using only ipv4 | 10:37 |
| trulux | ok | 10:43 |
| trulux | hehe | 10:43 |
| trulux | have you got the packages, diff, dsc and original tarball? I can mail them so you don't need to waste your time | 10:44 |
| crimsun | I'll try and wget them from the mailing list post | 10:45 |
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| crimsun | trulux: have these packages been added to MOTUToDo? | 10:49 |
| trulux | crimsun: ok, many thanks in advance | 10:49 |
| trulux | crimsun: not yet | 10:49 |
| === trulux goes for it | ||
| crimsun | trulux: ok, please add these, thanks :) | 10:49 |
| ogra | morning | 10:51 |
| crimsun | morning, ogra :) | 10:52 |
| ogra | trulux, guessing libssp is a NEW package, it should also go on MOTUNewPackages | 10:52 |
| trulux | ogra: Ok, so, not in Todo | 10:54 |
| trulux | jezz, reversed TPE got in grsec a few time ago, and that was an idea of mine that was remove from vSecurity in it's first release :D | 10:54 |
| ogra | if you put it on todo, add a hint to it...that ist on NEW | 10:55 |
| === trulux slaps himself | ||
| trulux | ok | 10:55 |
| crimsun | will look later, have to jet back to work. | 10:58 |
| === crimsun waves | ||
| ogra | bye crimsun | 10:58 |
| crimsun | bye ogra, trulux | 10:58 |
| trulux | ogra: done | 11:09 |
| ogra | great :) | 11:09 |
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| dholbach | hey! | 11:23 |
| ogra | hi | 11:23 |
| trulux | dholbach: qoo woo! | 11:24 |
| dholbach | :-) | 11:24 |
| trulux | dholbach: submitted libssp1 stuff to MOTUTodo | 11:26 |
| trulux | mot mot! | 11:26 |
| dholbach | it's a NEW package, right? | 11:26 |
| trulux | right | 11:27 |
| dholbach | could you then put it on MOTUNEWPackages, please? | 11:27 |
| trulux | it's in NewPackages page | 11:27 |
| dholbach | ah right ok | 11:27 |
| trulux | just my repo is in Todo page | 11:27 |
| trulux | <trulux> Ubuntu is really Debian on steroids | 11:53 |
| trulux | shouldn't that be the motto of the project? | 11:53 |
| === dholbach linkes this better: "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Ubuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world. | ||
| trulux | me too | 11:55 |
| trulux | it would rock to append my one ;D | 11:55 |
| === trulux kidding | ||
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| dholbach | hey koke | 11:58 |
| koke | hi all | 11:58 |
| koke | do you know if I already can upload? | 11:59 |
| dholbach | ask elmo if he added your key to the keyring | 12:00 |
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| koke | hmmm, I think I should add a bit more of complexity to the list :) | 12:01 |
| encolpe | hi | 12:01 |
| koke | IMHO, WithoutDesktopFile packages have less priority than DoesNotBuild | 12:02 |
| koke | dholbach: elmo is 82 hours idle :) | 12:02 |
| dholbach | hrm | 12:03 |
| trulux | anyone reviewing libssp1? | 12:11 |
| ogra | trulux, there are a lot other packages on NEW... | 12:11 |
| ogra | i doubt we will have three free MOTUs before release | 12:12 |
| ogra | (regarding the more then 3000 unbuildable packages on the lists) | 12:12 |
| trulux | christ :O | 12:13 |
| trulux | ok, kein Problem | 12:13 |
| trulux | :) | 12:13 |
| ogra | gut :) | 12:13 |
| ogra | trulux, you targeted breezy anyway, right ? | 12:14 |
| trulux | right, but getting libssp1 in Hoary might be a great thing | 12:14 |
| trulux | as my gcc patches are already in gcc-3.4 sources | 12:14 |
| trulux | :) | 12:14 |
| ogra | lets see waht we can do, but i cant promise anything.... | 12:15 |
| trulux | many thanks in advance | 12:37 |
| trulux | ogra: NP, don't do it if it harms other Ubuntu work being done | 12:37 |
| trulux | If i must wait I will do, first we need to to get Hoary properly released, and I wouldn't like to an asshole that makes it harder to accomplish ;) | 12:38 |
| trulux | s/to an/to be an/ | 12:38 |
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| herve | hi! | 01:15 |
| dholbach | hey herve | 01:17 |
| haggai | guys what's the freeze policy for universe nowadays? apt-proxy should be updated to newest version because I have fixed a lot of bugs since the current universe version | 01:18 |
| dholbach | haggai: update it | 01:18 |
| haggai | dholbach: k thanks | 01:19 |
| ogra | haggai, we are unfrozen until the last minute ;) | 01:20 |
| haggai | heh I thought that would be the case :) | 01:21 |
| herve | hi haggai ! | 01:21 |
| herve | glad to hear you | 01:21 |
| haggai | hi herve | 01:21 |
| Treenaks | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/p/putty/0.57-1/putty_0.57-1_20050324-1302-ia64-failed | 01:40 |
| Treenaks | that looks like a problem on the buildd to me | 01:40 |
| herve | I have several like this | 01:40 |
| herve | I suggest we make up a list for lamont to check | 01:40 |
| herve | and give them a kick if necessary | 01:40 |
| ogra | Treenaks, thats before 19:00 | 01:40 |
| Treenaks | yeah | 01:40 |
| herve | ogra, 18:57 precisely ;-) | 01:41 |
| Treenaks | ogra: oh, there should be a note on the page about that then :) | 01:41 |
| ogra | heh | 01:41 |
| herve | even more | 01:41 |
| herve | I'll change the wiki page for that list | 01:41 |
| ogra | yeah | 01:41 |
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| ogra | guys please, please, please comment dholbachs apt-get.org mail, its important that we see as many opinions as possible | 01:46 |
| amu | moin | 01:47 |
| dholbach | hey amu | 01:47 |
| herve | Treenaks, done | 01:48 |
| ogra | hi amu, frohe eier ;) | 01:49 |
| herve | hmm... I wonder if the "can't build" table applied | 01:49 |
| ajmitch | ogra: replied | 01:51 |
| herve | hey ajmitch ! | 01:51 |
| ajmitch | hi | 01:51 |
| dholbach | hey ajmitch | 01:51 |
| ogra | yeah !! | 01:51 |
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| ajmitch | hopefully I used the right email address ;) | 01:51 |
| ogra | heh | 01:52 |
| ogra | nice reply :) | 01:53 |
| ajmitch | thanks | 01:53 |
| amu | we've probably a new guy for packaging kde, i'll send him to here, he's very new on building .debs | 01:53 |
| ogra | great.. | 01:53 |
| dholbach | cool | 01:53 |
| ogra | we'll push him into shape ;) | 01:53 |
| dholbach | MOTUKDETeam is just around the corner | 01:53 |
| herve | as long as he's not new to building itself :-) | 01:53 |
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| === dholbach hands ajmitch a handkerchief... in advance | ||
| ajmitch | dholbach: I wasn't using my gmail account for anything useful ;) | 01:55 |
| ogra | hehe | 01:55 |
| dholbach | ah alright, i see | 01:55 |
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| amu | ogra: danke, wuensch dir auch dicke eier | 01:55 |
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| ogra | amu, hehe | 01:55 |
| amu | motaboy: welcome, this is the motu channel | 01:56 |
| motaboy | amu: Hi :D | 01:57 |
| ogra | hi motaboy | 01:57 |
| motaboy | hi ogra | 01:57 |
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| herve | Treenaks, I merged my list with the "can't build" table in the end | 02:13 |
| herve | erm | 02:14 |
| herve | latest putty ia64 build succeeded | 02:14 |
| herve | so end of the story? | 02:14 |
| === herve wikiing again... | ||
| motaboy | I've got a little question. kdebluetooth has it source dir called kdebluetooth-1.0_beta1 and already a debian dir that I'd like to change. | 02:16 |
| motaboy | the version is wrong. How can I call it? | 02:17 |
| dholbach | motaboy: what version would be appropriate? | 02:17 |
| dholbach | oh so it's a NEW package... does not exist yet for debian/ubuntu? | 02:18 |
| motaboy | dholbach: not again | 02:18 |
| motaboy | dholbach: the problem is that dh_make says that kdebluetooth-1.0_beta1 is wrong (for the _ betwee 1.0 and beta1) | 02:18 |
| motaboy | doko: but also calling it 1.0beta1 is wrong as 1.0beta1 > 1.0 for apt | 02:19 |
| ajmitch | perhaps 1.0~beta1 would be acceptable | 02:19 |
| dholbach | yeah exactly | 02:19 |
| dholbach | dpkg --compare-versions can always tell | 02:20 |
| motaboy | dholbach: the problems is that I want to keep the original debian dir, create a .orig file, and then change it. | 02:21 |
| motaboy | to do this I tried using dh_make to create the orig file, but it complains on the directory name. | 02:21 |
| herve | let me suggest 1.0+beta1 | 02:21 |
| dholbach | motaboy: no problem: mv upstream-tarball.tar.gz <package>_<version>.orig.tar.gz | 02:22 |
| herve | haggai, that's just this step? | 02:23 |
| dholbach | then extract it to <package>-<version> and if you run debuild -S (after applying your changes) you have a nice source package and a nice diff.gz which tells what you changed | 02:23 |
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| motaboy | dholbach: Thanks a lot. I'll try! | 02:23 |
| dholbach | motaboy: cool :-) | 02:24 |
| haggai | herve: 1.0+beta1 > 1.0 - not good for apt | 02:25 |
| motaboy | dholbach: and the <package>_<version>.orig.tar.gz would have the new version i choosed, but I'll keppe it's dir to the original name? | 02:25 |
| haggai | 0.99+1.0beta1 | 02:25 |
| doko | starting with breezy I hope we are able to use 1.0~beta1 | 02:25 |
| haggai | ajmitch: using '~' causes problems with various tools | 02:25 |
| ajmitch | haggai: I thought those tools were fixed by now | 02:26 |
| haggai | ajmitch: I don't think so for hoary | 02:26 |
| ajmitch | and that it was only woody that had old enough versions to break | 02:26 |
| dholbach | doko: it should work already | 02:26 |
| haggai | ajmitch: no, there are other factors. eg libtool breaks | 02:26 |
| ajmitch | nasty | 02:26 |
| haggai | libtool uses '~' as internal seperator and you get all sorts of problems | 02:26 |
| dholbach | oh | 02:26 |
| dholbach | hrm | 02:26 |
| haggai | that one might be fixed but afaik there were other probs | 02:27 |
| herve | how can I see the current list of packages with version on ia64 | 02:33 |
| herve | some build issues seem resolved by now | 02:34 |
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| doko | dholbach: yes, it works, but does it already get accepted by katie? | 02:47 |
| dholbach | doko: i recall a package using it... hang on... i'll ask mvo, he'll know | 02:48 |
| ogra | dholbach, ALL packages on backports use ~ | 02:48 |
| dholbach | ogra: that doesnt answer the katie question :-) | 02:49 |
| ajmitch | ogra: you said the word! | 02:49 |
| ogra | dholbach, which you secetly asked while i was disconnected ;-P | 02:49 |
| dholbach | ogra: no... doko did | 02:49 |
| ogra | ah, ok *g* | 02:49 |
| dholbach | ogra: and you were there | 02:49 |
| dholbach | 14:47 | 02:50 |
| ogra | ah, ok.... the first sign of life i saw again after the GRMBLFJX | 02:50 |
| dholbach | doko: he thinks i should work and also recalls some package using it already :-) | 02:51 |
| === doko thinks dholbach's dog needs fresh air ... | ||
| dholbach | doko: he thinks it should work .... :-) | 02:54 |
| dholbach | doko: murphy will get fresh air an hour or something, when i finished this does-not-build list crack | 02:55 |
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| dholbach | ok, i'm going to ease some wiki pain: I'll remove UniverseDoesNotBuild and integrate it into UniversePriorityList (i'll try to take care of your changes ;-)) and it'll be all in the format: * libdata-dumper-perl [http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/libd/libdata-dumper-perl/ Logs] (16848) | 03:12 |
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| tritium | Good morning :) | 03:19 |
| ogra | hi tritium | 03:19 |
| tritium | hi ogra | 03:20 |
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| herve | heya tritium ! | 03:23 |
| tritium | hi herve! | 03:23 |
| tritium | What's up herve? | 03:24 |
| motaboy | Thanks to you all I finally understand how everything works and made a first version kdebluetooth deb. | 03:24 |
| herve | compiling packages all day and night :-) | 03:24 |
| motaboy | now I've got other questions :P | 03:25 |
| tritium | way to go :) | 03:25 |
| motaboy | in kdebluetooth there's also an IrmcSync konnector for kitchensync... I'd like to make a separate package for it as it depens on kdepim and it's not very stable... | 03:26 |
| motaboy | what is the policy compliant name it should have? | 03:27 |
| herve | check how other kitchensync connectors are named | 03:28 |
| motaboy | herve: they are all in the kitchensync package. | 03:29 |
| dholbach | ok lists done | 03:31 |
| herve | I suggest kdebluetooth-irmcsync then | 03:31 |
| dholbach | hey tritium | 03:31 |
| dholbach | UniverseDoesNotBuild is obsolete | 03:31 |
| dholbach | sorry for the trouble i gave you... list-wise | 03:32 |
| dholbach | but it took me a while to figure out | 03:32 |
| dholbach | and i hope the test rebuild is finished soon | 03:32 |
| tritium | dholbach, you have me no trouble at all. What do you mean? | 03:32 |
| tritium | gave, that is | 03:32 |
| herve | ha | 03:33 |
| herve | I tought you were doing mistakes using French grammar :-) | 03:33 |
| dholbach | tritium: i mean the lists (UniverseDoesNotBuild and UniversePriorityList) on the wiki - i manage to have main entries there as well, forget to remove things, ... | 03:33 |
| herve | (thought) | 03:33 |
| tritium | dholbach, it's okay :) | 03:34 |
| dholbach | herve: is this the only trouble i gave you? :-) | 03:34 |
| tritium | herve, did I use French grammar unknowingly? | 03:34 |
| herve | not really :-) | 03:35 |
| motaboy | herve: ok thanks! | 03:35 |
| dholbach | so: have fun with UniversePriorityList - i'll take a leaf out of doko's book and head out for a walk | 03:35 |
| herve | ++ | 03:37 |
| herve | er... dholbach? | 03:39 |
| dholbach | herve: h? | 03:39 |
| dholbach | hm? | 03:39 |
| herve | it seems you have added packages from main | 03:39 |
| dholbach | yeah | 03:39 |
| dholbach | i know | 03:40 |
| herve | and there are xcfe packages, although they have their own list | 03:40 |
| dholbach | sorry for that | 03:40 |
| dholbach | if you have an idea how to fix it... i put the URLs of the scripts i used on the page | 03:40 |
| dholbach | and i didnt "add" them, i just didnt manage to remove them :-) | 03:41 |
| herve | I compared to the previous list :-) | 03:41 |
| motaboy | herve: so now I should create a debian/kdebluetooth.files and a debian/kdebluetooth-irmcsync.files reporting inside the files needed by the packages? | 03:47 |
| herve | yes | 03:48 |
| herve | now you have several binaries | 03:48 |
| motaboy | herve: or can I only define the debian/kdebluetooth-irmcsync.files and all the other will automaatically belong to kdebluetooth? | 03:48 |
| herve | you need to distinguish those kind of files | 03:48 |
| herve | hmm... I don't really now for that | 03:48 |
| herve | I'll try to clean the list | 03:52 |
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| dholbach | bbl | 04:04 |
| tritium | see you dholbach | 04:04 |
| ogra | bye dholbach | 04:05 |
| jinty | hey, is there someone in here that can upload a patch for schoolbell for me? | 04:16 |
| crimsun | jinty: sure, got a url? | 04:37 |
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| herve | grmf! | 04:37 |
| crimsun | darned Internet! ;) | 04:38 |
| herve | no, the laptop | 04:38 |
| herve | it gets easily at 60 C and hangs | 04:38 |
| crimsun | d'oh | 04:38 |
| encolpe | mmh | 04:43 |
| encolpe | natural born bad laptop, change laptop | 04:43 |
| herve | thanks the Dell Site Care :-/ | 04:44 |
| encolpe | huh | 04:44 |
| encolpe | :( | 04:44 |
| encolpe | my dell laptop doesn't hang, it melts | 04:46 |
| tritium | my Dell power supply sure gets hot, and then decides to shut itself off, particularly when I'm powering the laptop and charing batteries at the same time | 04:49 |
| herve | nice :-) | 04:50 |
| herve | hmm... debian kernels use dpatch but don't use any 00list file | 04:51 |
| herve | I hope the patch I added will be applied | 04:52 |
| trulux | hey tritium | 05:03 |
| tritium | hey trulux | 05:04 |
| trulux | tritium: howdy? | 05:04 |
| tritium | trulux, hi | 05:04 |
| trulux | tritium: just a bit of confusion, heh | 05:08 |
| tritium | :) | 05:08 |
| jinty | hoi crimsun, sorry it took so long, the patch is for http://issues.schooltool.org/issue185 and is at http://issues.schooltool.org/file28/patch | 05:30 |
| \sh | happy easter to all :) | 05:46 |
| tritium | Happy Easter, \sh :) | 05:46 |
| herve | it was yesterday no? :-p | 05:50 |
| \sh | well...today is eastermonday ;) | 05:51 |
| \sh | so...if you forgot some eggs ;) please find it today ;) | 05:51 |
| herve | all eaten :-) | 05:52 |
| \sh | hehe... | 05:52 |
| \sh | installing 101MB deb packages now ;) | 05:53 |
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| trulux | \sh: 170 here | 06:17 |
| trulux | :) | 06:17 |
| \sh | trulux, :) | 06:17 |
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| herve | hopla! | 06:29 |
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| jani | hello all | 06:35 |
| herve | hello jani | 06:36 |
| dholbach | hey janc | 06:36 |
| dholbach | argl | 06:36 |
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| dholbach | hello mr. jani monoses, how are you on this lovely day? | 06:37 |
| dholbach | ah... this is better | 06:37 |
| dholbach | :-) | 06:37 |
| jani | why thank you monsieur holbach I am fine | 06:37 |
| herve | dholbach, I'm removing the packages from main in the list | 06:37 |
| jani | I have to catch elmo, as usual :) | 06:37 |
| dholbach | i'm delighted to hear | 06:38 |
| jani | hmm he's idle for > 3days looks like it's not gonna happen today | 06:38 |
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| herve | to be sure my algorithm is good | 06:39 |
| herve | can you confirm bind9 is in main? | 06:39 |
| dholbach | yop | 06:40 |
| herve | good | 06:40 |
| herve | and apache 1.3 is not considered to be dropped? | 06:40 |
| dholbach | don't think so | 06:41 |
| herve | muhahaha! on ubuntu-users | 06:50 |
| herve | "glxgears, an intensive opengl application" | 06:50 |
| dholbach | oh my... i wish they had more tangible worries | 06:51 |
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| herve | nope, when you discover cpu and mem monitoring, anything worries you :-) | 06:52 |
| herve | hi thierry | 06:52 |
| thierry | hi herve | 06:52 |
| thierry | herve, I've just seen that gdesklets is still at version 0.33.1 | 06:52 |
| thierry | I sent the changes to seb128 to make it to 0.34.1 | 06:53 |
| thierry | any idea what happened? | 06:53 |
| herve | why do you ask me? | 06:53 |
| thierry | well because you were the first to talk to me and that seb128 is not here :P | 06:54 |
| herve | I don't know if I should feel honoured :-) | 06:55 |
| herve | hmm... another security hole fixed in webmin :-) | 06:56 |
| dholbach | was it removed? :-) | 06:56 |
| herve | users like it :-) | 06:57 |
| herve | wasn't pinball fixed? | 06:58 |
| herve | lamont, ping | 07:02 |
| herve | or anyone having power on the buildd | 07:02 |
| herve | we need to sort out those buildd issues! | 07:03 |
| herve | what's the status of importing those new xfce packages? | 07:03 |
| === herve wants the universe to ROCK! | ||
| herve | dholbach, I suggest when we make a first run on the list | 07:04 |
| herve | to see what was caused by a buggy buildd | 07:04 |
| lamont | herve: sup? | 07:04 |
| herve | what was fixed by now | 07:04 |
| herve | what is serious | 07:04 |
| herve | lamont, can you search "buildd" on https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePriorityList | 07:05 |
| herve | lamont, and tell us what's your diagnosis and remedy | 07:05 |
| === lamont looks | ||
| lamont | snacc: snaccC, not buildd is segfaulting. Does it in the non-test build as well. Probable cause: sizeof(void*) != sizeof (int): binary not in archive | 07:09 |
| lamont | pidentd: built on all 4 architectures, hoary and hoary-test. ppc log missing from main logs, but built/in archive. | 07:11 |
| herve | so issue closed? | 07:12 |
| lamont | a2ps: given back on ia64 | 07:13 |
| jani | herve, we requested elmo to sync xfce, so it is pending I guess | 07:13 |
| herve | what given back means? | 07:13 |
| herve | ok jani, thanks | 07:14 |
| herve | lamont, a2ps also failed on ia64, but for an odd reason | 07:14 |
| lamont | a2ps given back on ppc too | 07:15 |
| lamont | given-back ==> requeued | 07:15 |
| lamont | pidentd is closed | 07:15 |
| lamont | snacc is preexisting issue in the package | 07:15 |
| lamont | a2ps is requeued on the architectures where it was dying | 07:15 |
| herve | are the build attempted as much as necessary or the number of tries is limited? | 07:17 |
| lamont | builds are tried once, then either succeed, auto-depwaited, or come to me for handling. | 07:19 |
| herve | okay | 07:20 |
| lamont | mpage given back on ppc, ia64 | 07:20 |
| herve | ia64 need a kick? | 07:20 |
| lamont | proftpd is OK. (closed) | 07:20 |
| === herve discovering the buildd slang ;-) | ||
| lamont | putty OK as well (closed) | 07:21 |
| lamont | udev needs a kick to the head.. | 07:21 |
| lamont | anyway, entire list either fixed, explained (snacc - your issue...), or requeued | 07:22 |
| lamont | s/fixed/fixed already/ | 07:22 |
| herve | yes, that's our current concern | 07:22 |
| herve | but when the build fails for obvious reason | 07:22 |
| herve | we need you | 07:22 |
| herve | thank you very much! | 07:23 |
| lamont | right. | 07:23 |
| lamont | np on having me check any of those | 07:23 |
| herve | I hope so :-) | 07:24 |
| dholbach | hrm, what's the problem with http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/g/gnucash/1.8.9-4/ | 07:27 |
| herve | hmm... gtkhtml3.0 seem to need a libhowl transition | 07:27 |
| dholbach | gtkhtml3.0 needs to be chucked out | 07:27 |
| herve | also :-) | 07:27 |
| dholbach | should transition the rdepending to gtkhtml3.6 | 07:27 |
| dholbach | about gnucash: i get the same cracked up unmet-dependency messages, when i try to build it | 07:28 |
| lamont | dholbach: personal bet would be that the build-depends include one that depends: libreadline5-dev, and one that depends libreadline4-dev | 07:28 |
| dholbach | lamont: apt-get -d build-dep gnucash works at my place | 07:29 |
| lamont | whcih is to say, a series of apt-get -ud commands should reveal which package needs to have things fixed... | 07:29 |
| lamont | current hoary? | 07:29 |
| dholbach | yep | 07:29 |
| dholbach | lamont: had the same problem with multisync | 07:29 |
| === lamont investigates | ||
| lamont | libguppi-dev | 07:32 |
| lamont | liborbit-dev libpaper1 libpopt-dev libreadline4-dev libwrap0-dev libxau-dev | 07:32 |
| lamont | guile-1.6-dev | 07:32 |
| lamont | libreadline5 libreadline5-dev | 07:32 |
| lamont | in hoary test | 07:32 |
| herve | dholbach, so I transition gtkhtml3.0 or move it to the morgue? | 07:33 |
| dholbach | herve: there are still some packages depending on libgtkhtml3.0-bla | 07:33 |
| herve | what's what I meant by transitioning :-) | 07:34 |
| herve | hmm... there's maybe too much | 07:34 |
| lamont | dholbach: and also current hoary | 07:34 |
| lamont | so either guppi or guile-1.6 is out-of-date for you... | 07:35 |
| dholbach | lamont: very strange indeed | 07:35 |
| dholbach | herve: would begnomesword, encompass, mysql-query-browser | 07:35 |
| herve | yes, peacock too | 07:35 |
| herve | so libhowl transition? | 07:36 |
| dholbach | herve: you the first two, i the last two? | 07:36 |
| herve | so gtkhtml transition? | 07:36 |
| herve | :-) | 07:36 |
| dholbach | we need not list for those :-) | 07:36 |
| herve | just tell me what to do! | 07:37 |
| dholbach | herve: change build-dependencies to gtkhtml3.6 and see if it works for 1) gnomesword 2) encompass | 07:37 |
| dholbach | :-) | 07:37 |
| herve | good! | 07:37 |
| herve | no thinking! | 07:37 |
| herve | like it! | 07:37 |
| herve | dholbach, checking for libgnomeui-2.0 gtk+-2.0 libgtkhtml-3.0 gal-2.0 libxml-2.0 sword... Package libgtkhtml-3.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. | 07:44 |
| herve | report from gnomesword | 07:45 |
| dholbach | change in configure.{ac,in} and add changes of autconf in a patch :-) | 07:46 |
| herve | nothing more? | 07:46 |
| dholbach | hoping that it works :-) | 07:47 |
| herve | I mean, some command to run :-) | 07:47 |
| dholbach | autoconf | 07:47 |
| === herve will make its second dpatch attempt | ||
| herve | in the rules file? | 07:48 |
| dholbach | no, separatedly on your box | 07:48 |
| dholbach | and add its changes in a (d)patch | 07:48 |
| herve | got it! | 07:48 |
| dholbach | *ROCK* | 07:48 |
| dholbach | herve: same here :-) | 07:52 |
| herve | encompass too | 07:53 |
| herve | woogoo! | 07:53 |
| schweeb | dholbach: I added a morgue recommendation yesterday - user-mode-linux (talked with mdz about it) | 07:53 |
| herve | :-) | 07:53 |
| dholbach | haha | 07:54 |
| dholbach | schweeb: added it on wiki/MorgueCandidates too? | 07:54 |
| schweeb | yes | 07:54 |
| dholbach | schweeb: rock | 07:54 |
| dholbach | will write to elmo about it | 07:54 |
| schweeb | man, this sucks... 4 hours late for work :-/ | 07:55 |
| siretart | hi folks :) | 07:56 |
| herve | hi siretart ! | 07:57 |
| siretart | I'm trying to fix some Packagess from the priority list, namly gpm and mtr | 07:57 |
| === herve is living dangerously! | ||
| herve | siretart, you're welcome :-) | 07:58 |
| siretart | but I fail to see any problems with those packages. how comes? | 07:58 |
| herve | siretart, gpm seem to miss from i386 | 07:58 |
| herve | probably just needs a kick/sync | 07:58 |
| siretart | herve: but it is building fine in my pbuilder chroot! | 07:59 |
| siretart | hmm. just a new reupload? | 07:59 |
| herve | something like that | 07:59 |
| herve | about mtr | 07:59 |
| herve | latest is all successfull | 07:59 |
| herve | just remove it from the list | 07:59 |
| siretart | ok. both? | 07:59 |
| herve | no | 08:00 |
| herve | wait for gpm to hit all the archives | 08:00 |
| siretart | ok | 08:00 |
| herve | tseng, I added you blog entry about dpatch on wiki/PackagingTips | 08:06 |
| siretart | I'm looking now at vcdimager, it fails with error message CHARSET CONVERSION FAILED... I guess this is due to utf8 | 08:10 |
| siretart | would It be acceptable to disable the testsuite? the package seems to build fine though. | 08:11 |
| siretart | it is disable when crosscompiling anyway.. hmm | 08:13 |
| herve | siretart, that's what unit tests are for :-) | 08:13 |
| siretart | herve: yeah, usually I would agree, but.. | 08:14 |
| siretart | hmm.. ok, I try to fix the tests.. | 08:14 |
| herve | okay I spoke too fast! | 08:15 |
| herve | my dpatch patch is not applied at all:! | 08:15 |
| herve | dumb me! | 08:16 |
| dholbach | herve: same here | 08:16 |
| herve | dholbach, vim debian/patches/00list | 08:17 |
| dholbach | i messed up the rules file instead :-) | 08:17 |
| herve | gulp! | 08:17 |
| siretart | gulp. vcdimager is using some kind of magic testsuite of automake.. | 08:18 |
| herve | anything involving automake is magic to me :-) | 08:19 |
| herve | dholbach, hmm... I guess I need to add dpatch to the build depends... | 08:19 |
| dholbach | herve: ha... did that too, just my debian/rules doesnt work yet | 08:20 |
| siretart | ah, I think I found it.. | 08:22 |
| herve | gaaaa! | 08:28 |
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| herve | how do you make a dpatch patch applied at all?! | 08:28 |
| siretart | herve: I use the dpatch-edit-patch command | 08:29 |
| siretart | great tool :) | 08:29 |
| herve | sure! | 08:30 |
| herve | and listed my patch in debian/patches/00list | 08:30 |
| herve | and added the include into debian/rules | 08:30 |
| herve | but nothing happeds | 08:30 |
| herve | (happens) | 08:30 |
| herve | rock! my laptop got below 39 C! | 08:31 |
| herve | wow! you can add conditions in 00list | 08:33 |
| siretart | rock! vcdimager fixed! this was a rather tricky one :) | 08:33 |
| siretart | herve: you need to depend on target patch-stamp in target build in debian/rules. have you? | 08:33 |
| herve | argh | 08:34 |
| herve | tseng, you never said it ;-) | 08:34 |
| herve | thanks siretart, I'll find some example | 08:34 |
| herve | siretart, I followed the dpatch example and added patch-stamp to build-stamp | 08:38 |
| herve | and patch in the phony targets | 08:38 |
| herve | it's ok for you? | 08:38 |
| siretart | herve: shoud be ok, I think. be sure to read /usr/share/doc/dpatch/README.gz | 08:44 |
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| dholbach | ha nice... mysql-query-browser requires 1) gtkhtml 2) gtkmm 3) python transition *ROCK* | 08:46 |
| herve | that's a big fish you caught ;-) | 08:49 |
| herve | there's progress | 08:51 |
| dholbach | herve: gladly the mandatory package[outstanding_transitions] ==gcompris[outstanding_transitions] -check didnt work | 08:51 |
| herve | my patch is unapplied but not applied :-) | 08:51 |
| herve | dholbach, which means? | 08:51 |
| dholbach | herve: i'm still looking at the package :-) | 08:52 |
| herve | got it! | 08:52 |
| herve | I patched after the configure | 08:52 |
| herve | whereas I was patching that #$*! configure :-() | 08:53 |
| herve | :-) | 08:53 |
| dholbach | woohoo | 08:53 |
| herve | you can tell it | 08:53 |
| === herve having dinner | ||
| herve | argh! | 08:55 |
| herve | gnomesword is incompatible with latest gtkhtml | 08:56 |
| dholbach | *argl* | 08:56 |
| dholbach | latest unstable 3.1.1 | 08:58 |
| herve | you sure you want to get rid of gtkhtml3.0 ? ;-) | 09:03 |
| dholbach | herve: don't worry... just leave it :-) | 09:04 |
| dholbach | herve: the new version uses gtkhtml-3.0 still | 09:14 |
| herve | yep | 09:14 |
| herve | we're really not helped :-) | 09:14 |
| dholbach | ok... mysql-query-browser done | 09:15 |
| herve | so what have you done in the end? | 09:17 |
| dholbach | dpatched it | 09:18 |
| dholbach | want to have the debian/rules i used? | 09:18 |
| herve | I mean | 09:19 |
| herve | it compiled smoothly with gtkhtml3.6? | 09:19 |
| dholbach | fortunately, yes | 09:20 |
| herve | you lucky! | 09:20 |
| dholbach | forget it... take another one | 09:21 |
| herve | I don't quit so easily :() | 09:22 |
| herve | but I have a gtkhtml3.0 recompiled just in case! | 09:22 |
| jani | goodbye all | 09:32 |
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| herve | now I quit! | 09:41 |
| herve | dholbach, are you interested in that gtkhtml3.0 recompiled without libhowl? ;-) | 09:42 |
| dholbach | poor herve :-/ | 09:42 |
| dholbach | i ask seb :-) | 09:42 |
| herve | er... what do I say... | 09:42 |
| ogra | what do you say herve ? | 09:42 |
| herve | I'm not even sure why the build failed! | 09:42 |
| herve | ogra, http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/g/gtkhtml3.0/3.0.10-1/gtkhtml3.0_3.0.10-1_20050326-2023-ia64-failed | 09:43 |
| herve | what's your diagnosis | 09:43 |
| lamont | herve: one of the packages that it build-deps on still has libhowl.la mentioned somewhere in /usr/lib/lib*.la | 09:44 |
| === lamont investigates | ||
| herve | I knew rebuilding it wasn't enough... | 09:45 |
| ogra | yep, its libhowl | 09:45 |
| ogra | creating libgtkhtml-3.0.la | 09:45 |
| ogra | /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libhowl.la: No such file or directory | 09:45 |
| ogra | libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libhowl.la' is not a valid libtool archive | 09:45 |
| herve | sure :-) | 09:45 |
| dholbach | grep howl /usr/lib/*.la | 09:45 |
| ogra | herve, grep | 09:46 |
| herve | /usr/lib/libgal-2.2.la:dependency_libs | 09:47 |
| herve | /usr/lib/libgal-a11y-2.2.la:dependency_libs | 09:47 |
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| herve | I rebuild libgal2.2 | 09:48 |
| lamont | herve: actually, it requires uploading a new gal2.2 to hoary | 09:49 |
| === lamont goes to kick seb128\ | ||
| herve | lamont, how do know? | 09:49 |
| === herve foolish want to upload a package in main... | ||
| lamont | because libhowl was dropped through a carefully ordered uploading of packages, instead of adding versions to the build-depends | 09:50 |
| lamont | and ia64 appears to have lagged behind a bit | 09:51 |
| herve | Isee | 09:51 |
| herve | dholbach, woohoo! encompass doesn't bother me with gtkhtml's version! | 09:52 |
| dholbach | YES | 09:52 |
| === ogra thought ia64 wer the faster ones... *g* | ||
| ogra | were even | 09:53 |
| === ogra kisses his amd64 | ||
| herve | ;-) | 09:53 |
| herve | config.log po/POTFILES | 09:55 |
| herve | those files are changed in my diff of encompass | 09:55 |
| herve | is it wrong? | 09:55 |
| lamont | ogra: the ia64 boxes in the data center are really dog-slow boxes... lowest pricepoint machines, etc | 09:57 |
| lamont | although bdale tells me there must be something wrong, since they should be much faster than they are | 09:57 |
| ogra | ah, ok....probably it scales heavily with the amount of CPUs.... | 09:58 |
| \sh | hey ogra... | 09:58 |
| ogra | hi | 09:59 |
| herve | siretart, ping | 10:01 |
| \sh | ogra, why u told klaus that I'm doing now something for ubuntu ?? ,-) | 10:01 |
| siretart | herve: pong | 10:01 |
| herve | siretart, so you fixed vcdimager? | 10:02 |
| siretart | herve: yeah, it is building for me in my pbuilder | 10:02 |
| siretart | i uploaded it on my server.. | 10:02 |
| ogra | \sh, why not, is it a secret ? | 10:02 |
| herve | siretart, because you have not moved it from "The list" to "Working on" | 10:02 |
| herve | and now "To review" | 10:02 |
| herve | :-p | 10:02 |
| \sh | ogra, he told me that last thursday in jamesons ;) | 10:02 |
| siretart | herve: oh. did I miss to press 'save'? hang on.. | 10:03 |
| herve | don't press save then! | 10:03 |
| herve | dholbach, about that "Finally worked on all Buildds (all archs)" table | 10:03 |
| dholbach | lamont: i just saw that mdz assigned you #8316 - here is what i gave doko ages ago: http://moz.gotdns.org/ubuntu/wxwindows2.4-debdiff | 10:03 |
| ogra | \sh, was it wrong ? should i keep it secret ? tell me if thats the case | 10:03 |
| herve | dholbach, let's just remove things that were already fixed to light the page | 10:04 |
| siretart | herve: well, UniversePriorityList looking fine now, or did I miss something? | 10:04 |
| dholbach | herve: yeah go ahead | 10:04 |
| \sh | ogra, no :) i was just suprised if he's making jokes with me that evening...i was a bit dizzy ;) | 10:04 |
| ogra | oh, ok | 10:04 |
| herve | siretart, okay, but just remove it from "The List" so that no one will pick it | 10:05 |
| herve | I'll do it | 10:05 |
| siretart | herve: thank you, next time I'll get it right ;) | 10:05 |
| jbailey | Are universe bugs supposed to go into malone now? | 10:06 |
| === doko wonders about dholbach's interpretation of "ages" ... | ||
| dholbach | jbailey: bradb wanted to spread the word, when the backend is ready (from what i know) | 10:06 |
| dholbach | doko: sorry, didnt want to blame you for anything - i typed it in a hurry | 10:07 |
| ogra | doko, an age >= 30min | 10:07 |
| jbailey | dholbach: 'k thanks. | 10:07 |
| === dholbach wipes out "ages ago" | ||
| herve | ogra, and how much in american seconds? ;-) | 10:08 |
| ogra | hehe, ask mako ;) | 10:09 |
| herve | someone having a powerpc? | 10:10 |
| jbailey | herve: I do. | 10:10 |
| herve | jbailey, could you try to (p)build usbview? | 10:10 |
| lamont | dholbach: confused by why I wound up with 8316... I can fix it sure, but it is universe, and all that... | 10:10 |
| ogra | hmm, why is it in bugzilla ? | 10:11 |
| lamont | must be used-to-was main, dunno | 10:11 |
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| \sh | hmm? | 10:12 |
| lamont | dholbach: so, since you have a patch, and the power, you wanna just upload? | 10:12 |
| herve | jbailey, same thing for libapache-mod-ssl, a serait gnial :-) | 10:12 |
| dholbach | lamont: he must think you're the saviour :-) | 10:12 |
| jbailey | herve: Am I looking for the same problem with both? | 10:12 |
| herve | jbailey, the buildd failed, I'd like to test it elsewhere | 10:13 |
| herve | and with the current seed (?) | 10:13 |
| herve | ogra, I just love your temp applet! | 10:13 |
| dholbach | lamont: can't: it's a 4267426MB native package and my connection is too slow | 10:13 |
| herve | dholbach, you forgot a digit :-) | 10:14 |
| ogra | herve, if i have enough data about all the thermal implementations, i'll package it | 10:14 |
| lamont | we have no terabyte source packages | 10:14 |
| lamont | :-) | 10:14 |
| jbailey | herve: Feh. usbview seems to want to update the buildenv at build time, and does so poorly. | 10:14 |
| ogra | lamont, ot yet...wait until apt-get.org gets in ;) | 10:14 |
| lamont | although OO.o is trying to get there, it seems... | 10:14 |
| dholbach | hahaha :_) | 10:15 |
| lamont | dholbach: grumble... ditto here. | 10:15 |
| === lamont deals with it | ||
| jbailey | herve: In fact, the whole packaging is fubar, it's a GNU mode automake package without a ChangeLog, etc. | 10:15 |
| lamont | your debdiff is good, dholbach ? | 10:15 |
| jbailey | herve: I don't imagine how it would work on any arch. | 10:15 |
| dholbach | lamont: not really sure... i hoped someone would double check it... it's not really nice, since files that are in both (wx2.4 and wx2.5) are simply removed | 10:16 |
| herve | jbailey, argh! | 10:16 |
| tseng | herve: it was on planet | 10:16 |
| tseng | herve: but thanks. | 10:16 |
| herve | just leave it, libapache-mod-ssl it more important IMO | 10:16 |
| herve | tseng, planet? the TV channel? I don't watch it :-p | 10:17 |
| tseng | herve: er.. planet.ubuntu.com | 10:17 |
| herve | tseng, didn't know | 10:18 |
| ogra | herve, planet.hollywoord, dont you know the restaurant ;) | 10:18 |
| ogra | -r | 10:18 |
| jbailey | herve: After I reran autoreconf -f -i and fixed and added AUTOMAKE_OPTIONS=foreign to Makefile.am, it builds fine. | 10:18 |
| lamont | WTH needs 14MB of source. sheesh | 10:18 |
| dholbach | lamont: and it takes AGES to compile | 10:19 |
| herve | ogra, :-p | 10:19 |
| herve | jbailey, usbview? you ROCK! | 10:19 |
| ogra | herve, :) | 10:19 |
| ogra | doesnt that need /proc/bus/usb ? | 10:20 |
| herve | dholbach, beware people will interpret it as half an hour :() | 10:20 |
| herve | ogra, the libusb I guess | 10:20 |
| jbailey | $ ls -ald /proc/bus/usb | 10:20 |
| jbailey | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 0 2005-03-28 08:57 /proc/bus/usb | 10:20 |
| jbailey | Oh, hmm. I'm running on a fallback 2.6.8 kernel right now because a grub2 experiment went poorly yesterday. | 10:21 |
| dholbach | herve: then it took at least 4 ages | 10:21 |
| lamont | ETA 1:05:00 | 10:21 |
| jbailey | If this build is dependant on kernel features, this might not be the best test. | 10:21 |
| herve | dholbach, it didn't even exist at the dinosaurs time! | 10:22 |
| dholbach | herve: hopefully not :-) | 10:22 |
| herve | jbailey, don't worry for the functional test, I just wanted to test the build | 10:22 |
| herve | hmm... what did we say about kernel-source-2.6.8 in our list... | 10:24 |
| dholbach | zul wanted to check those | 10:24 |
| herve | I mean, wo we leave it in our list? | 10:25 |
| jbailey | herve: libapache-mod-ssl builds fine here. | 10:26 |
| herve | jbailey, you just rock! | 10:26 |
| herve | good, lacheck was already fixed! | 10:26 |
| jbailey | herve: Eh? I didn't do anything to that one. =) | 10:26 |
| herve | jbailey, you gave me time :-) | 10:27 |
| herve | jbailey, I guess you know better than me what to do with those changes in usbview? | 10:28 |
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| herve | strange, usbview is in the archive for all archs | 10:30 |
| jbailey | herve: Up to date even... | 10:32 |
| herve | argh! | 10:33 |
| jbailey | Although, | 10:33 |
| jbailey | Oh I see why I trigger the AM bug. | 10:33 |
| herve | I think I'm confused between the archive and rebuilding universe | 10:33 |
| jbailey | It wouldn't trigger if the person doesn't have automake installed. | 10:33 |
| ogra | hey guys pe7er would like to help with some easy tasks, could someone lead him a bit ? | 10:34 |
| pe7er | :) | 10:34 |
| herve | lamont, I'm still not confident with the log | 10:35 |
| herve | lamont, http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/g/gtkam/0.1.12-2.1/ | 10:35 |
| herve | lamont, how to say lincity is fixed or not on powerpc? | 10:35 |
| dholbach | hello pe7er :-) | 10:35 |
| herve | s/lincity/gtkam | 10:35 |
| herve | but the same applies :-) | 10:35 |
| herve | hi pe7er | 10:35 |
| pe7er | please play easy on me, i'm not a coder by any means. | 10:36 |
| pe7er | hi | 10:36 |
| pe7er | (so i'm afraid of wasting your time, but if you have something i can do i'll gladly help) | 10:37 |
| herve | pe7er, you're welcome and we're here to help too, so don't worry | 10:37 |
| dholbach | pe7er: i'm glad you show up here, nice of you, you want to help out | 10:37 |
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| schweeb | pe7er: lookin to fix some packages I take it? | 10:37 |
| herve | hi Burgundavia | 10:38 |
| dholbach | pe7er: at the moment our biggest target are packages that fail to build, some cases are easy since they just require different build-dependencies, if you're brave look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePriorityList :-) | 10:39 |
| schweeb | pe7er: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePriorityList check out that list for a package you're interested in helping with | 10:39 |
| dholbach | pe7er: if you run into any trouble, just holler :-) | 10:39 |
| schweeb | damn, beaten by dholbach by a millisecond | 10:39 |
| schweeb | build logs for the packages are at http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/ | 10:40 |
| dholbach | pe7er: you might find installing pbuilder helpful (it takes care of a completely separated build process and shows up most common errors) -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 10:40 |
| tseng | hi dholbach | 10:40 |
| tseng | how goes | 10:40 |
| dholbach | hey tseng | 10:40 |
| ogra | tseng, busy like bees all around ..... 24h to RC | 10:41 |
| lamont | herve: universe/graphics/gtkam_0.1.12-2.1: Needs-Build [extra:uncompiled] | 10:41 |
| dholbach | tseng: reviewing kdebluetooth, looking at peacock, kicked off the apt-get.org thread | 10:41 |
| tseng | hm | 10:41 |
| herve | lamont, where do you read that :-) | 10:41 |
| lamont | buildLogs/Test/Lists/hoary-test.all.powerpc | 10:41 |
| ogra | *****yeah, again, please everybody reply to this thread on ubuntu-devel@ we need as many opinions as possible **** | 10:42 |
| ogra | (apt-get.org that is) | 10:42 |
| pe7er | great. i'll take a look and see what i can do. besides someone brought to my attention that there is a problem with the current wx2.5-headers package (not only in hoary but in debian also), see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=294998, recent amule will fail to build because of that (and i guess it will be a popular package). | 10:42 |
| Burgundavia | herve: salut | 10:42 |
| herve | lamont, and this means it's on the queue for another try? | 10:43 |
| lamont | yes | 10:44 |
| lamont | Needs-Build -> Building -> {Failed, Dep-Wait, Uploaded -> Installed} | 10:44 |
| lamont | with the understanding that Building-> Failed is a lamont-step | 10:44 |
| herve | I just can't wait :-) | 10:45 |
| dholbach | pe7er: not sure if that is one of the easy cases | 10:45 |
| dholbach | pe7er: just talked to lamont about it | 10:45 |
| dholbach | pe7er: you set up the pbuilder already? | 10:45 |
| herve | could someone please review and upload siretart's vcdimager? | 10:46 |
| dholbach | herve: yeah | 10:46 |
| crimsun | pe7er: wait, wha? | 10:46 |
| pe7er | dholbach, i am on it and yes, i've been already told its not a trivial case. i don't think i could do that | 10:46 |
| crimsun | what's wrong with wxwidgets2.5.3? | 10:46 |
| crimsun | err, s/.3// | 10:47 |
| lamont | crimsun: #8163 | 10:47 |
| herve | crimsun, it's wxwidgets, that is :-) | 10:47 |
| dholbach | pe7er: sure: go ahead :-) | 10:48 |
| crimsun | what the | 10:49 |
| siretart | stats for today: installed girlfriends notebook with hoary, probably fixed 1 package :) | 10:49 |
| siretart | gotta go, cu folks! | 10:49 |
| herve | bye siretart | 10:49 |
| herve | thank for you work! | 10:49 |
| dholbach | crimsun: some files (those on mentioned here: http://moz.gotdns.org/ubuntu/wxwindows2.4-debdiff) conflict in 2.4 and 2.5 | 10:50 |
| herve | good... I broke the wiki page :-) | 10:50 |
| crimsun | dholbach: yes, but I didn't muck with those because the Debian maintainer says there's a coming solution | 10:50 |
| crimsun | I'm really hoping Ron packages 2.5.5 with a fixed archive.h | 10:50 |
| ogra | crimsun the next 6 days ? | 10:51 |
| crimsun | ogra: highly doubtful, which is why I did all that cruft :) | 10:51 |
| ogra | heh | 10:51 |
| ogra | k | 10:51 |
| crimsun | looks like I need to push archive.h in, though | 10:51 |
| === herve dreams of an intelligent merging of concurrent wiki changes, and "au revoir" conflicts! | ||
| dholbach | herve: i think it's next goal after "don't save everything in ONE blob" :-) | 10:53 |
| herve | dholbach, do we really need that xfce list on that page? | 10:53 |
| dholbach | herve: chuck it off, crimsun and jani know what they're doing | 10:54 |
| herve | hmm... a three-way merge :-) | 10:54 |
| herve | dholbach, I just wanted to move it :-) | 10:54 |
| crimsun | speaking fo XFce, waiting on elmo; he's understandably busy | 10:54 |
| crimsun | of^ | 10:54 |
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| dholbach | crimsun: what about manually uploading those? how many source packages have you got? | 10:55 |
| dholbach | crimsun: would still require elmo's NEW approval | 10:56 |
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| dholbach | phone | 10:56 |
| Vollstrecker | crimsun or dholbach: Have you modified the rules file of wx? | 10:57 |
| herve | good night all! | 11:00 |
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| ogra | night herve | 11:01 |
| tseng | uh | 11:01 |
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| schweeb | gotta love netsplits | 11:01 |
| herve | (fixing a last package...) | 11:01 |
| crimsun | what the | 11:01 |
| Vollstrecker | crimsun: netsplit | 11:02 |
| crimsun | I think I pinged out completely, though | 11:02 |
| ogra | herve, youre addicted ? | 11:02 |
| herve | ogra, can't stop... gaaaa... | 11:02 |
| ogra | heh | 11:02 |
| lamont | crimsun: rather, 8316 | 11:02 |
| herve | ++ | 11:02 |
| ogra | herve, go to the anonymous packagers :=) | 11:02 |
| Vollstrecker | crimsun: Have you modified the rules file of wx? | 11:03 |
| crimsun | lamont: right, that's what I read in BTS | 11:03 |
| crimsun | Vollstrecker: yes, I added an explicit invocation to autoconf | 11:04 |
| crimsun | Vollstrecker: Debian #285186 | 11:04 |
| Vollstrecker | crimsun: I'm working on the archive.h bug of the debian pkg. | 11:04 |
| crimsun | Vollstrecker: ok, great. | 11:05 |
| Vollstrecker | I was the one that told pe7er to tell you | 11:05 |
| crimsun | Vollstrecker: thanks, appreciate the heads-up | 11:05 |
| Vollstrecker | I'm just compiling | 11:06 |
| ogra | Vollstrecker, if its solved before the 5th it could go in the release | 11:06 |
| Vollstrecker | But I think you won't get a working diff if you modified that file. | 11:06 |
| crimsun | is archive.h the only missing header? | 11:06 |
| Vollstrecker | ogra: I want to fix it this night | 11:06 |
| Vollstrecker | Afaik yes. | 11:07 |
| ogra | yeah | 11:07 |
| crimsun | can we made explicitly certain it is? | 11:07 |
| crimsun | that way it would be sufficient just to pull archive from upstream cvs's tag | 11:08 |
| crimsun | archive.h, rather | 11:08 |
| Vollstrecker | It is in the source package. The dir were it is in is copied, I don't know why it ins't copied, too. | 11:08 |
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| crimsun | ok, it'd be line 707 of ubuntu's wxwidgets2.5's debian/rules | 11:18 |
| crimsun | now to figure out why archive.h doesn't land in $(objdir_msw_install)/include/wx-$(release)/wx | 11:18 |
| Vollstrecker | Because msw isn't built. You mean objdir_gtk_shared | 11:20 |
| tseng | ogra: sent. | 11:21 |
| ogra | yeah, great | 11:21 |
| crimsun | Vollstrecker: aha | 11:22 |
| Vollstrecker | install-gtk-shared-stamp: build-gtk-shared-stamp build-gtk-shared-contrib-stamp | 11:22 |
| Vollstrecker | dh_testdir | 11:22 |
| Vollstrecker | mkdir -p $(objdir_gtk_install) | 11:22 |
| Vollstrecker | cd $(objdir_gtk_shared) \ | 11:22 |
| Vollstrecker | && $(MAKE) install prefix=`pwd`/../$(objdir_gtk_install) | 11:22 |
| Vollstrecker | cd $(objdir_gtk_shared)/contrib/src \ | 11:22 |
| Vollstrecker | && $(MAKE) install prefix=`pwd`/../../../$(objdir_gtk_install) | 11:22 |
| Vollstrecker | touch $@ | 11:22 |
| Vollstrecker | That's the place to look for | 11:22 |
| crimsun | oh d'oh, I didn't read the previous line in the build log | 11:23 |
| crimsun | says objs_gtk_sh right there, sigh | 11:23 |
| Vollstrecker | I think that's the place. I'm just testing this place, but it takes long, till build process is there | 11:24 |
| ogra | yeah, wx is a pita to build | 11:24 |
| ogra | at least you have lots of spare time.... | 11:25 |
| Vollstrecker | jep, and I'm afraid of starting it another time after it works, like I want. | 11:26 |
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| ogra | tseng, are you sure the first letter of the pre last word wasnt a typo ? ;) | 11:32 |
| tseng | ogra: s:g:r:g ? | 11:33 |
| tseng | quite possibly. | 11:33 |
| ogra | lol | 11:34 |
| tseng | the emial might be a little strong | 11:34 |
| tseng | i tend to do that. | 11:34 |
| Seveas | ogra, on my system hwdb-client gives pythin errors after the sound test, is this known? | 11:34 |
| ogra | Seveas, oh, no.....that shouldnt happen, can you send me the error ? | 11:35 |
| Seveas | ogra sure | 11:35 |
| Seveas | pm or e-mail? | 11:36 |
| Seveas | it's quite short | 11:36 |
| ogra | as you like.... | 11:36 |
| Seveas | i'll pm you | 11:36 |
| ogra | so pm | 11:36 |
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| dholbach | ok, back again | 11:37 |
| tseng | wb | 11:37 |
| dholbach | now i'll look at the vcdimager | 11:37 |
| Burgundavia | ogra: I am getting an error with hwdb-gui with xrandr (probably due to the flgrx drivers) | 11:40 |
| ogra | GAH... | 11:40 |
| Seveas | Burgundavia lol :) | 11:40 |
| === Seveas too :) | ||
| Burgundavia | ogra: should I file a malone bug so as you have something to track? | 11:40 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, you tried it before, right ? | 11:40 |
| ogra | iirc | 11:40 |
| Burgundavia | it worked before I changed to ati drivers | 11:41 |
| ogra | aha | 11:41 |
| Burgundavia | and it worked until it tried to collect the data | 11:41 |
| ogra | ok.... | 11:41 |
| Burgundavia | I can test without the ati drivers to see if that is the issue? | 11:41 |
| ogra | strange, seems like the fglrx driver is borked then | 11:41 |
| dholbach | siretart: uploading vcdimager | 11:42 |
| Burgundavia | flgrx and xrandr don't like each other | 11:42 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, that would be helpful | 11:42 |
| Burgundavia | never had | 11:42 |
| Burgundavia | s/had/have | 11:42 |
| ogra | ah, i didnt know that, daniels gave me the advice to use xrandr | 11:42 |
| Seveas | ogra I will try it too | 11:42 |
| ogra | Seveas, no need, according to Burgundavia i'll have to change my code then | 11:42 |
| Seveas | brb | 11:42 |
| Seveas | ow ok | 11:43 |
| Burgundavia | xrandr error happend with xfree86 too | 11:43 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, thats not an issue for me.... | 11:43 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 11:43 |
| ogra | but fglrx is | 11:43 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 11:43 |
| Burgundavia | flgrx is crap | 11:43 |
| ogra | a serious one... | 11:43 |
| Burgundavia | I wish I bought nvidia | 11:43 |
| Burgundavia | but I was being patriotic (being canadian) | 11:43 |
| tseng | do the ati driver not work for you? | 11:44 |
| tseng | oss | 11:44 |
| tseng | they suit my needs well enough. | 11:44 |
| Burgundavia | it does, but no 3d | 11:44 |
| Burgundavia | they work very well, but I play tuxracer and quake3 about once a week | 11:44 |
| tseng | ive played quake3 with the oss drivers | 11:44 |
| Burgundavia | I like my 90fps | 11:45 |
| crimsun | Vollstrecker: hum, arrimpl.cpp probably shouldn't exist in the -headers package(s), either | 11:45 |
| Burgundavia | poor ogra | 11:45 |
| Vollstrecker | Never noticed this file. | 11:45 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, i'll sort it, no worries...will just make my night a little longer ;) | 11:46 |
| crimsun | Vollstrecker: yeah, there are three .cpp files in include/wx/ | 11:46 |
| Burgundavia | ogra: is that something that is a release goal for hoary? | 11:47 |
| Vollstrecker | Jep, I see. Maybe I should ask Ron, if this is expectet | 11:48 |
| tseng | i just played tuxracer np | 11:49 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, it has to be ready tomorrow 22:30 UTC | 11:49 |
| Seveas | oof | 11:49 |
| Seveas | well, i'll test as soon as you have the new version then | 11:49 |
| Vollstrecker | crimsun: There are several .bmp's too. | 11:50 |
| Burgundavia | ogra: eep | 11:55 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, its ok, i really love to program until the sun rises.... (not kidding) | 11:56 |
| Burgundavia | ogra: sorry about not reporting it earlier | 11:57 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, not your fault, i blame daniels for that advice if its a known problem... | 11:57 |
| ogra | (never owned an ati card in my whole life) | 11:58 |
| Burgundavia | http://noxa.de/~sbeyer/debian/packages/ <--- this is listed as dead on aptget.org wiki page, but is live | 11:58 |
| Burgundavia | however, I don't know where it should be filed | 11:58 |
| dholbach | lamont: is it considered to be ok to chuck build problems (just) on ia64 (like http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/c/catdoc/0.93.4-1/) off the list? | 11:59 |
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