=== _P_ [~princoscr@host-84-220-134-33.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === marcusT [~marcus@xdsl-81-173-156-114.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu === verden01 [~verden@cor6-ppp956.ade.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:22] Hi === cmf [~lou@adsl-213-249-162-93.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #kubuntu [12:26] hey anyone been running kubuntu for long? [12:27] anyone from Australia? === verden01 [~verden@cor6-ppp956.ade.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:27] verden01: yes, no but I'm visiting next month [12:27] cool [12:28] whats kubuntu like? [12:29] kde-ubuntu :) [12:30] lol i guessed that [12:31] maybe give kubuntu's live cd a try and experience yourself a bit :) [12:32] i've instaled the original version of Ubuntu and am now upgrading to hoary and will then install the kubuntu-desktop [12:32] ah, ok [12:33] i mainly use Libranet [12:34] as far as i know both kubuntu and ubuntu use the same ubuntu-base, so changing from one to another seems no problem... === Kamion [~cjwatson@host81-153-126-219.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has left #kubuntu [] [12:34] thats my impression as well [12:34] kubuntu is ubuntu with kde [12:35] anyway i haven't used ubuntu x64 for a while and when i re-instaled it yesterday i had forgotton how fast it is [12:35] hehe [12:36] when use add the universe repository you have a lot more great debian packages to choose from as well [12:36] rather the same reason here, being fed up with mepis and mandrake and their overweight installations by default... [12:37] though mepis' multimedia features are very nice... [12:37] yeah you just add the packages you need [12:38] but >3gb of mepis vs ~1gb of kubuntu... ;) [12:38] haven't used mepis for a while [12:38] but agree that its a good distro [12:38] yeah [12:39] well ubuntu also have x64 which is great [12:39] ok, past midnight here, time for bed... :) [12:40] ok bye its only 10 past 8am here [12:40] old europe, you know... bye ;) [12:41] hahaha === verden01 [~verden@cor6-ppp956.ade.dialup.connect.net.au] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === apokryphos [~apokrypho@host-84-9-32-12.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === motaboy [~motaboy@host116-36.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === Zugot [~bryan@pcp0010860530pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === verden01 [~verden@cor6-ppp956.ade.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:49] Hi [12:55] Hi === verden01 [~verden@cor6-ppp956.ade.dialup.connect.net.au] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === Roey is now known as WorkRoey === chavo [~chavo@166.153.41.61] has joined #kubuntu === codyman [~cody@ip68-4-94-106.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:02] i just installed kubuntu.. i installed gstreamer0.8-mad yet i still can't play any music... what other packages are needed since only arts is installed? === Pyre [~Pyre@host-84-9-32-12.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === delire [~delire@cpe.atm4-0-71579.0x503ffe02.bynxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu [01:03] Pyre: tell codyman ubukde [01:03] codyman: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingKDE [01:03] install that pacakge described there [01:03] thanks === delire [~delire@cpe.atm4-0-71579.0x503ffe02.bynxx18.customer.tele.dk] has left #kubuntu [] [01:04] no problem [01:04] Pyre: akode-mpeg? [01:05] that's it [01:06] there is no "apt-get install akode-mpeg" and "apt-get install akode" is already installed [01:06] o wait [01:06] forgot to enable universe [01:06] bleh [01:07] :) [01:07] i should make a list of things i need to do everytime i reinstall... too many to remember off the top of my head [01:07] imagine that.. akode-mpeg found... === apokryphos_ [~apokrypho@host-84-9-33-147.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.192] has joined #kubuntu === apokryphos_ is now known as apokryphos === LeeJunFan [junfan@64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu === Pyre [~Pyre@host-84-9-33-147.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === Pyre [~Pyre@host-84-9-33-147.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:37] Hi kubuntuites :p [01:38] Hmm, I always thought of us as Kubuntunians. [01:38] 8) [01:40] Kubuntish? [01:43] well, ymmv [01:44] I wish xcompmgr was stable :/ it was looking sweet [01:44] I can't afford to have my xserver crashing on me randomly :p [01:45] randabis: It's actually working pretty well here. [01:45] no crashes [01:46] Riddell: just wait till Kubuntu gets released. People are going to be asking for t-shirt and high-school cheerleaders are gonna be saying, "That's sooo kubuntish". === apokryphos can picture it now [01:47] apokryphos, you don't have your t-shirt yet? [01:47] and this channel will become just as crowded as ubuntu itself, effectively becoming useless :) [01:47] well it's pretty useless already, so no loss there :) [01:48] Curalton: it does seem to be growing at about the rate that #ubuntu did [01:48] chavo: I thought they were out of stock? [01:48] Riddell: oh, you track such things :) [01:49] It's double the size of oft-average of #mepis [01:49] I have no idea why the IRC is so small there (but even so, the few in there are very helpful). [01:55] apokryphos, what options are you using with xcompmgr if you don't mind my asking? [01:55] using kcontrol ones; one sec, I'll note some down [01:56] ah [01:56] the kcontrol ones for me seem to work fine for me too, but they are a little subtile imho [01:56] I like things a bit more pronounced (which is probably why it was crashing on me :p) [01:56] Subtile...? But they're fully configurable. [01:57] I didn't have any probs with using it via CLI [01:57] I couldn't get it to do this.... [01:58] xcompmgr -cCfF -r7 -o.65 -l-10 -t-8 -D7 & [01:58] heh === downclimb [~johnson@host-69-145-229-49.cac-co.client.bresnan.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:58] will try that now [01:59] basically after a little while that would crash xcompmgr, and when I would try to restart it, xserver would die [01:59] what are the extra things that the command there provides? Recognise only a bit of it... === apokryphos is running it out; waiting for a crash. ;) [02:00] it's a number of things...I'd have to ask my buddy what exactly everything there does...he suggested I try those settings [02:00] Haven't seen anything yet that kcontrol doesn't provide... [02:02] I probably just haven't played with the kcontrol effects enough...dunno [02:05] randabis: did you ever get that flash plugin to work on konqi? Sorry, couldn't talk so much at the time... [02:05] no, I didn't actually...I've just been using mozilla for now [02:06] ok, one sec [02:08] you definitely have ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so? [02:08] correct [02:09] and when you go to "Plugins", next to the "Scan" part, nothing is found? [02:09] it says "Netscape Plugins" [02:10] yup, under that [02:10] nothing is under there [02:12] ok, also, in the previous directory, flashplayer.xpt is also there? (trying to cover the little things) [02:12] yes [02:13] It worked fine for me first time, but my brother said he had problems when he did it; said there was another package he needed to add, and got the answer from #kde. So, it might be worth trying there again... [02:14] hmm [02:18] if no luck now, just try again later; one more thing: you have konqueror-nsplugins, right? === codyman [~cody@ip68-4-94-106.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:19] i have a nvidia card (agp 4x 440mx go!.. i'm on a laptop) and the screensavers in kde don't work [02:20] randabis: hm, something else to try... could you try +x the .so? [02:20] okay [02:21] no dice [02:23] darn === HillTop [~chatzilla@cpe-204-210-35-9.san.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Glin|Jol [~bobo@66-108-244-133.nyc.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === moominski [~moominski@cpc3-belc1-6-0-cust66.blfs.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:39] I'm installing gentoo right now within kubuntu :p [02:44] any1 here === Glin|Jol [~bobo@66-108-244-133.nyc.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:45] moominski: /list [02:48] wots that mean [02:49] now ive got all sorts of wrtin wots this for [02:51] moominski: just a list of people here :) [02:54] apokryphos and websites they like etc? [02:54] nope.. [02:54] moominski: as a note, you can use TAB for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC> [02:55] i dotn work [02:55] dont [02:55] highlight hit tab? [02:55] Nope. Like, you can type, for example, "apo" then press Tab, and it'll auto-complete. [02:56] apokryphos just goin for a copa joe back soon [02:56] ok === thomaskorwed [~vb@rule-dk2.smca.yahoo.com] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.192] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] anyone here? [02:58] hmm [02:58] afk imam go hit up picukpx cus i going to the circle tonigh n need some fresh pickup lines === thomaskorwed [~vb@rule-dk2.smca.yahoo.com] has left #kubuntu [] [03:00] I must be getting tired, I read that as him asking for pickup lines === apokryphos sees the same [03:02] Lucky he left; got quite a few to unleash. [03:04] ok im back [03:04] rite, anytips on customizing gnome [03:04] look wise [03:04] moominski: you do know you're in #kubuntu, right? ;) [03:04] damn i forgot lol [03:04] soz [03:08] nearly finish updating to hoary means i can get kubuntu now === MidnightDevil [~Dreamer@81.193.85.200] has joined #kubuntu [03:16] apokryphos: so when i finish updating hoary can u help me to install kubuntu [03:16] moominski: sure :) An article you will want to check out... [03:16] Pyre: tell moominski ubukde [03:16] moominski: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingKDE [03:17] Short answer being, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop". [03:17] thanks is everything there that i need to know? [03:18] With regard to installation of KDE, pretty much, yes. Anymore questionst that answered there (should there be any) you can just ask on here [03:18] tanks [03:19] sorry for my bad typing im trying to roll a spliff and type at the same time [03:19] its a murder picture [03:20] haha [03:23] apokryphos so how long u been a linux abuser? hehe [03:24] Just under a year now; it has fought back for my abuse a few times. ;) [03:26] hehe i dare say it has, its made me lose all the data on my harddisk but i still keep comin back [03:26] i really wanna learn it ya no? [03:27] that which kills me also feeds me ;) [03:28] sure :). The best way to learn, I think, is just playing around with it and reading a few guides; it really helps. [03:28] Seeing others' problems too, of course, helps. [03:29] Pyre: tell moominski rute [03:29] moominski: http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz [03:29] that's a good one [03:29] yeah linux gives me a buz because i dont no if anything is gonna work [03:29] its like a drug [03:30] hehe [03:30] find the problem conqor it [03:31] takes a while to update to hoary dont it [03:31] ok i need help here [03:31] nvidia-glx (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? [03:32] y [03:32] thanks i thought so but wasnt sure === DeFi[gsr-pro] [~exiled@ip68-6-40-245.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:38] ok i think im done should i restart?? === Zevin [~chatzilla@68-185-53-231.wa.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:50] nite === Pyre [~Pyre@host-84-9-33-147.bulldogdsl.com] has left #kubuntu [] === difekta [~DIFEKTA@h-67-101-43-199.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU === moominski [~moominski@cpc3-belc1-6-0-cust66.blfs.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:06] apokryphos: i did it dude upgrade successfull [04:06] cool :D [04:06] randabis: see #kde now [04:06] was a bit hairy for a moment X wouldnt start [04:06] ok === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:07] moominski: heh. But got through it, eh? [04:07] apokryphos, I don't get gray boxes...I get a message asking me to download the plugin [04:07] yeah i worked itself [04:08] randabis: that's true; it's not detected, neither. [04:08] ask one of them two, though. [04:08] ok [04:09] ok can yas help me get kubuntu [04:09] moominski: sure. You still got the link? [04:09] nah m8 had to restart [04:10] this gentoo install is going well within ubuntu so far :) [04:10] there's an even sweeter version of kubuntu that comes with gnome instead. it's called ubuntu. [04:10] no need to troll [04:10] difekta: sounds real sweet. Where can you get that from? [04:10] is gnome better [04:10] lol [04:11] moominski, depends on who you talk to [04:11] moominski: Generally a matter of preference, but I think, emphatically, NO. =) [04:11] do you guys seriously not know i'm kidding? === apokryphos wasn't [04:11] gnome is more appealling to the eye, but not as feature-rich. [04:11] I like kde 3.4 a lot better than the latest gnome personally [04:11] ;-) [04:11] difekta: I disagree; I find gnome real ugly, generally. [04:11] I find kde much more appealing [04:12] http://img17.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img17&image=snapshot55vk.jpg [04:12] :) [04:12] Some have produced real nice screenies though of gnome, no doubt, but general KDE to me just says, "aesthetically beautiful". [04:12] so u gonna give me that link me?? [04:13] gaim? Heretic! [04:13] m8* [04:13] Yeah, I can make gnome look good with some tweaking, but kde 3.4 made my jaw drop [04:13] moominski: oh, sorry. www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/installingKDE [04:13] np m8 [04:13] sorry, I haven't tried out kopete yet :p [04:13] :P [04:13] old ones, that I'll update soon-enough-is: www.youmortals.com/stuff/ubuntu [04:14] *ish [04:14] apokryphos: witch pakage should i get?? [04:14] moominski: kubuntu-desktop [04:14] cheers [04:16] Install these packages without verification [y/N] ? [04:16] y [04:16] thank you === LeeJunFan [junfan@64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:17] hm, but they're in main, so they should have verification anyway. Oh well. [04:17] apokryphos, just setup kopete :p not bad [04:18] wots kopete?? [04:18] cool [04:18] moominski: an IM client. [04:18] like MSN [04:18] ahhh ok i see [04:20] ok wot shud i do after i inatll kubuntu? [04:20] make nachos [04:20] enjoy :) [04:20] i mean how do i select to use it [04:21] is it dodgy [04:21] oh, logout, then selection Session > KDE [04:21] dodgy - nope, you should be fine. [04:21] sweet [04:22] top notch help i must say!!! [04:22] do i have to update again since im hoary now === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.192] has joined #kubuntu [04:23] update what? The system? No... you just did. :) [04:23] lol i mean like repositories [04:23] is that ight [04:23] right [04:24] they should already be correct if you installed kubuntu-desktop [04:24] since that package is not available in the warty repos [04:24] im in the middle of install [04:24] Yeah, he just upgraded to haory now, and I believe doing k-desktop now. [04:24] yes [04:25] Your repositories should be fine then [04:25] im goin about this the right way? [04:26] moominski: yes [04:26] tea time again [04:26] sweet [04:26] been 24 hours already? Woah. [04:26] how come u stay on so long m8 [04:27] why, the addiction, of course. [04:27] lol [04:27] ofcourse [04:27] wy is it so addictive? [04:28] maybe its cause theres so much to learn and take in? [04:28] misterious [04:28] lol [04:29] Partly; not entirely sure. [04:29] findin out new stuff gives us a buzz [04:29] I do other things, too ;). Nearly equally useless, though. [04:29] lol [04:29] I'm just sitting here looking at gcc output lol [04:30] Please select [04:30] which display manager should run by default. [04:30] wot now [04:31] kde [04:31] it's up to you really...kdm or gdm are fine [04:31] kdm then [04:31] whats going on guys? any status on the edit menu fixed in kubuntu? [04:31] kdm is kde's display manager, gdm is gnome's, and is what you are currently using (your login screen) [04:34] Setting up kubuntu-desktop (0.37) ... [04:34] root@Planisphere:/home/moominski # [04:34] am i finished? [04:34] moominski: why are you using root? ;-) [04:34] you are :) [04:34] i dont no [04:35] No need for root on Ubuntu -- use sudo. [04:35] i just use root teminal [04:35] is that wrong [04:35] oh, perhaps not then. [04:36] ok [04:37] root terminal is fine...it's like using sudo -s === moominski [~moominski@cpc3-belc1-6-0-cust66.blfs.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:39] hello im back withkubuntu thanks for your help [04:40] Excellent; no problem. [04:40] ohh yes this rocks [04:41] this is so much nicer [04:41] but i wull use gnome aswell [04:44] excellent :) === cartel_ [~cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #kubuntu [04:44] hey all! === apokryphos gathers the torch and sets the rope up [04:44] im giving kubuntu my first go.. very impressive [04:44] i like kde, and i like debian, so it is a nice combo :) [04:45] cool :). Good to hear. [04:45] im just not sure whats gonna happen when i start folding in sarge sources ;) [04:46] ubuntu is completely its own distro yes? its not even derived from debian? [04:47] No, it is based on Debian. See: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship/document_view [04:47] based on debian in that it uses .deb packages and apt [04:47] and a few other things, yes. [04:48] It's not part or directly affiliated with Debian, no. [04:48] Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is built". [04:48] ack [04:48] no .nz mirror :( [04:48] .au? [04:49] cartel_: an nz kde user? :D [04:49] advocate ;) [04:50] isp.net is still international === cartel_ has 10mbit national and only 1mbit international... it gets clobbered === Quinn_Storm [~quinn@68.68.116.136] has joined #kubuntu === ttf_ [~tom@p83.129.2.175.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu === tony [~tony@bgp01112777bgs.westln01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === neom [neom@neom.ca] has joined #Kubuntu === billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === carambol [~Internet@c117065.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu [05:20] how to change Refresh Rate in KDE? [05:22] how to change the refrash rate of my monitor? [05:23] the refresh has only one option(60) and i need 85 [05:23] xrandr? [05:24] delltony is it a command for me? [05:24] yeah i don't know how kde does it [05:24] but the command on a shell is xrandr [05:24] thx...try it [05:24] np man xrandr for more info [05:25] is there an unofficial kubuntu guide === Quinn_Storm [~quinn@68.68.116.136] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:25] moominski, if you find one let me know [05:25] lol === sander [~sander@pool-68-161-196-248.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:25] thats something i liked about ubuntu the guide it helped alot [05:25] well official [05:25] but i don't see that for kubuntu [05:26] nick sander__ [05:26] doh === sander is now known as sander__ === delltony is now known as cornel_sanders [05:26] :P === cornel_sanders is now known as delltony [05:26] No guides just yet; an official one is coming out soon enough [05:26] the Wiki has some good things though, in the meantime === benjanet [~benja@pc-52-169-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:26] yeah wiki's are nice [05:26] is there any way to transfer files over bluetooth on kubuntu ? [05:27] i get for 1024 768 a Refrsh Rate *60. what tha means ? [05:28] means its set to 60 [05:28] the * means what its set as [05:28] carambol, means you will get blind soon :D [05:28] but i cant change it in gui...the only option is 60 [05:29] *0 1680 x 1050 ( 569mm x 356mm ) *85 [05:29] virtually everything in ubuntuguide.org can be applied to kubuntu guys [05:29] like that means i'm running option 0 at 1680 by 1050 and a refresh rate of 85 [05:29] remember that kubuntu is not a seperate distro === Sparhawk_ [~sparhawk@c-24-14-121-93.client.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:30] but i have no 85 [05:30] as an option, only 60 for [05:31] 1024x768 [05:31] and i need 85 [05:31] xrandr -r (rate) 85 [05:31] -r is for rate [05:32] ok [05:32] in root? [05:33] i do sudo [05:34] but root if youw ant [05:37] i get : Current serial number in output:12 [05:37] Serial number of failed request 12 [05:40] BadValue (integer out of range for operation [05:40] integer parameter [05:42] delltony? [05:42] you using hoary or warty? xfree86 used xrandr [05:42] hoary uses xorg [05:42] hoary [05:43] and you change it in the xorg.conf with the hsync and vsync [05:43] it takes the highest your monitor can support [05:43] like hsync 31.5-110 is what mine is set to [05:43] some hours a ago made an update for xorg [05:43] and vsync on mine is 29-90 [05:43] someone can correct me if i'mw rong [05:44] but thats how it works for me [05:44] it computes in that range the highest value it can use [05:44] and uses it [05:44] but all the time i used 85 [05:45] i will take a look at the man xrandr [05:46] maybe shortly there will an update correcting it [05:46] or you can try the good ol trick of ctrl alt "+" "-" [05:46] and it cycles the modes you have set [05:47] i will wait and look for upgrades [05:47] but to save you some time and not so technical ;) [05:48] you can go to control center === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.192] has joined #kubuntu [05:48] click on periphials (spelling) [05:48] and hit display [05:48] and change it there :p [05:48] ok many thx delltony [05:48] but the thign is [05:49] its reading the values from that xorg file [05:49] so if your hsync is set to only 60 [05:49] then thats all your gonna get [05:49] i try to change it: computer>Preferences>Resolution [05:50] but got only the 60 choice [05:50] right [05:50] like i told you [05:50] in Gnome [05:50] well gnome im not up to par on [05:50] but i know its reading from that xorg.conf file [05:50] try it now in kde [05:51] cu [05:51] (B)(B) [05:52] if he ever comes back tell him he needs to have a look at modeline in the xorg.conf file [05:52] and have him not the @85mhz and so on === Skreet [~skreet@c-24-147-73-168.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:56] Can anyone in here shed some light onto why my cdrom drive is no longer working after doing updates? #ubuntu didnt have an answer. === verden01 [~verden@cor6-ppp956.ade.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [06:00] Hi [06:03] hi === canllaith [~dessa@jhall.developer.kde] has joined #kubuntu [06:04] apokryphos: ok so fine, I'll take a look. [06:05] heh :D [06:05] canllaith: There are cookies and drinks on the side; please feel free to help yourself. [06:05] Now this is service ;) [06:05] Hot drinks are down the corridor. Sugar on the table. [06:06] Apt repositories are available from your very own CLI; please be sure to use sudo before running apt. [06:07] heh === canllaith doesn't have sudo installed :o [06:07] you sunk my battleship [06:07] no sudo? :( [06:08] No, Kubuntu is not a separate distro, yes, you need Hoary to get 3.4. [06:08] :P [06:09] No sudo, at least I don't think so [06:09] i'm upgrading to hoary now and then plan to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, is that the same as running kubuntu? [06:09] verden01, pretty much' [06:10] except you'll have a bunch of gnome stuff too [06:10] cool [06:10] thats ok some gnome aps are good [06:21]