| jbailey | Nice. What does it do? | 03:27 |
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| zul | adds module_version to some network drivers | 03:28 |
| zul | mmm....spiffy...System of a Down - Mezmerize - BYOB _Bring Your Own Bombs_.mp3 | 03:32 |
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| fabbione | morning | 05:13 |
| dilinger | good evening | 05:30 |
| lamont | morning fabbione | 05:31 |
| fabbione | hey dilinger | 05:47 |
| fabbione | make_kpkg is shitting on me | 05:47 |
| fabbione | dpkg-gencontrol: error: package linux-xen0-2.6.10-5-386-xen0 not in control info | 05:47 |
| fabbione | why on earth does it change linux-image into linux-xen0 | 05:47 |
| lamont | hrm... so who should 8189 really be assigned to, rather than kernel-team, I wonder | 05:56 |
| dilinger | uh | 06:07 |
| dilinger | i have no idea, that's really odd | 06:07 |
| dilinger | 'linux' is set via --stub, the image bit should be from kernel-package.. | 06:08 |
| dilinger | you built it w/ kernel_image? | 06:08 |
| fabbione | dilinger: i used the same way we build the kenrels in ubuntu | 06:09 |
| dilinger | i have no idea, i've never seen kernel-package do that | 06:10 |
| dilinger | i need to get to bed, job interview tomorrow at 8:30 :( | 06:10 |
| fabbione | dilinger: good night and good luck | 06:11 |
| fabbione | lamont: 8189 is mostlikely our | 06:11 |
| dilinger | thanks | 06:11 |
| fabbione | usb-massstorage is teh sux | 06:11 |
| lamont | fabbione: yeah, but we assign them to debzilla or to an individual | 06:23 |
| lamont | rather than polluting kernel-team | 06:23 |
| lamont | kernel-bugs already gets them (qa contact is cc'ed...) | 06:24 |
| lamont | 99% sure.. :0) | 06:24 |
| fabbione | right | 06:24 |
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| fabbione | night lamont | 06:25 |
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| unifi | hey is anyone around? | 08:35 |
| unifi | I am trying to figure out where my kernel is | 08:35 |
| fabbione | /boot | 08:36 |
| unifi | ok thanks... then what is in /lib/modules? | 08:37 |
| fabbione | the modules that the kernel or the user can load on demand | 08:38 |
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| zul | hey | 02:59 |
| zul | bleah since when did ati do ide | 03:01 |
| fabbione | hi zul | 03:01 |
| zul | hey fabbione how is it going? | 03:02 |
| fabbione | not too bad | 03:07 |
| fabbione | i committed some stuff in experimental you want to look at :) | 03:07 |
| zul | like what? | 03:07 |
| fabbione | xen? | 03:08 |
| zul | ah...where again? | 03:08 |
| fabbione | see /topic | 03:08 |
| zul | ah sweet! | 03:09 |
| zul | i didnt see that just woke up ;) | 03:09 |
| fabbione | it has been there for a few days now :) | 03:10 |
| zul | heh it shows you how observant i am | 03:11 |
| zul | whats the difference between xen0 and xenu | 03:14 |
| fabbione | i still need to improve the descriptions and fix the header packages | 03:19 |
| fabbione | but basically xen0 is the kernel the boots the machine | 03:19 |
| fabbione | xenu is the one that boots the virtual machines | 03:19 |
| zul | ah ok | 03:20 |
| fabbione | i am still not sure if we are handling xen properly... | 03:26 |
| fabbione | right now i consider it a special cased flavour of i386 | 03:26 |
| fabbione | but i think we will need to treat it as a separate arch | 03:27 |
| fabbione | otherwise fixing the headers will be a royal mess | 03:27 |
| zul | gotcha | 03:28 |
| fabbione | zul: your updates to external drivers are bogus :) | 03:55 |
| fabbione | that file matches what is in the kernel | 03:55 |
| fabbione | not what is upstream | 03:55 |
| zul | ah ok | 04:00 |
| zul | well they should be in experimental then ;) | 04:00 |
| fabbione | as soon as you update a driver, you update that file too | 04:03 |
| fabbione | so you know what is in and what's not | 04:03 |
| zul | ah got it | 04:03 |
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| fabbione | build time for i386 is almost doubled | 04:25 |
| zul | hah hah | 04:30 |
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| lamont | but we don't have a buildd for Architecture: xen | 05:17 |
| lamont | so it probably has to build on i386 | 05:17 |
| fabbione | it can only build on i386 :) | 05:19 |
| fabbione | atm | 05:19 |
| fabbione | lamont: i have been puzzled about adding xen as arch/i386/*-xen* flavours | 05:20 |
| fabbione | or add arch/xen-i386/$flavours | 05:20 |
| fabbione | both cases have pro/cons at build time | 05:20 |
| fabbione | right now i am just curious to get these test images out | 05:20 |
| fabbione | we can always change the internal build at anytime | 05:21 |
| lamont | right - either way involves abusing things a little bit | 05:24 |
| lamont | actually, arch/i386/*-xen* (*.xen?) is probably the way to go, otherwise i386 needs to know how to build for 2 architectures, which is ugiler than having extra configs | 05:24 |
| fabbione | well i was hoping in a xen-amd64 soon to be hounest | 05:25 |
| fabbione | it alredy supportes x86_64 to certain degrees | 05:25 |
| fabbione | lamont: there are still hacks around tbh | 05:25 |
| lamont | right. But either xen builds on 1 platform, or we have xen flavors of various platforms | 05:26 |
| fabbione | like we need to build a special linux-headers package for Arch: "xen-i386" | 05:26 |
| lamont | ah | 05:26 |
| fabbione | eitherway it needs to be built :) | 05:26 |
| fabbione | well i mean that the standard headers are not ok for xen | 05:26 |
| fabbione | since include/asm-xen is missing in the standard ones | 05:26 |
| lamont | so it sounds almost like there's a xen-i386 architecture, and i386 knows to build both i386 and xen-i386 | 05:26 |
| fabbione | exactly | 05:27 |
| fabbione | if you want to look at it from a pure theoretical point of view | 05:27 |
| fabbione | than the Arch is xen-i386 | 05:27 |
| fabbione | or even better: Arch: xen built on i386 | 05:27 |
| fabbione | but clearly we can handle as we want internally | 05:28 |
| fabbione | we are not introducing a brand new source, just a patch on top of what already exists | 05:28 |
| fabbione | it's almost like we do for hppa | 05:28 |
| lamont | coolness | 05:31 |
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| lamont | end of week? | 05:31 |
| fabbione | i can't remember | 05:32 |
| zul | ooh...i fucked up my palm | 05:36 |
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| fabbione | YAY | 08:44 |
| fabbione | first full build of XEN packages | 08:44 |
| fabbione | approx 4 hours | 08:44 |
| zul | oi...thats alot | 08:44 |
| fabbione | on i386 + distcc + ccache and -j 15 | 08:44 |
| fabbione | well probably ccache got outdated | 08:45 |
| fabbione | or something | 08:45 |
| zul | fabbione: motu team has been asking me about the kernels in universe since they are not installable anymore should be tell tem to sync with debian for only arches we support? | 09:01 |
| fabbione | zul: they should be able to decide themself. either solutions work for me | 09:03 |
| fabbione | and the xen kernels are not compiled properly | 09:03 |
| zul | okie dokie | 09:03 |
| fabbione | damn make_kpkg | 09:03 |
| zul | hehe | 09:03 |
| fabbione | they build, but they can't boot | 09:03 |
| fabbione | file xen-linux-2.6.10-5-686-xen0 | 09:04 |
| fabbione | xen-linux-2.6.10-5-686-xen0: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, stripped | 09:04 |
| fabbione | tsk | 09:04 |
| zul | hehe | 09:04 |
| zul | ill tell them to sync 386,686,686-smp,k7,k8 any others? | 09:06 |
| fabbione | powerpc? ia64? sparc? | 09:06 |
| zul | oh yes... | 09:06 |
| zul | not on my radar ;) | 09:06 |
| fabbione | lamont: do you care about hppa? | 09:07 |
| lamont | fabbione: sure | 09:11 |
| lamont | or do you mean something specific? | 09:12 |
| fabbione | lamont: sync from debian -> universe | 09:12 |
| lamont | syncing what? | 09:12 |
| lamont | 2.6.11? | 09:13 |
| zul | 2.6.8 | 09:14 |
| lamont | 2.6.8 is ancient for hppa, unless kyle has been busy... | 09:18 |
| kylem | i've not uploaded anything recently. | 09:21 |
| zul | fabbione: sync debian's 2.4 stuff as well...i wouldnt think so because of initrd-tools and the like | 10:08 |
| zul | because if i can recall jbailey said they havent been tested | 10:09 |
| fabbione | whatever :) | 10:09 |
| jbailey | zul: I'm guessing by now I would've heard some bitching if initrd-tools in Ubuntu was b0rked on 2.4 | 10:10 |
| zul | ok thats cool.. | 10:10 |
| lamont | the debian 2.6.8 kernel for hppa is the one with the "expect bug" | 10:13 |
| lamont | so probably not a good idea to sync that one | 10:14 |
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