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lamontdholbach: they're not issues until hoary releases12:02
lamontthen they're issues again12:02
lamontso it's good to still at least semi-track them...12:02
schweebmight as well make a DoesNotBuildIA64 page12:02
tsengBurgundavia: like i said, some of that stuff times out for ogra and I, and others can get to it12:02
dholbachlamont: seems like it was a buildd issue12:03
tsengBurgundavia: to be painfully obvious, we dont want that stuff in the first place, so marking a false dead is cool in my book12:03
=== lamont looks
=== tseng hopes he doesnt get hit with fire and brimstone for saying suck
tsengsuch12:03
ogratseng, sabdfl isnt lurking ;)12:04
schweebhehe12:04
Burgundaviatseng: I have no opinion, so I leave it as is12:04
=== lamont swats dholbach with the pre-1857 log file for catdoc
ograheh12:05
dholbachlamont: merci beaucoup :-)12:05
lamontdholbach: having said that, it looks like it didn't get given back either12:06
lamontso I did that12:06
=== dholbach looks at qiv
crimsunVollstrecker: I will be away for two hours, but please let me know which fixes to merge.12:13
VollstreckerIf it finished till then.12:13
dholbachVollstrecker: you're not working on the conflicting files of wx2.4 and wx2.5?12:15
dholbachit's something else, right?12:15
Vollstreckerarchive.h12:15
dholbachah ok12:16
ograBurgundavia, does the resolution selection work for you (it relys on xrandr afaik)12:18
ogra(from System->Settings)12:18
Burgundaviaogra: no12:18
ograah, ok12:18
Burgundaviaogra: The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.12:18
ograthats what you get ?12:19
Burgundaviayep12:19
ogranice12:19
Burgundaviaalways have with flgrx drivers12:19
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ograwow, today i recieve nearly every 10mins a new submission....i'll know every system on the planet if i'm done with all this data...12:22
dholbachhahahaa12:22
ograat least all laptop setups ;)12:23
ajmitchhi all12:24
=== ajmitch went in to work today, no internet connection there, and nearly everyone taking the day off :)
dholbach:-))12:25
ajmitchso today is a fine day for MOTU work! :)12:25
dholbachajmitch: have fun: wiki/UniversePriorityList is all yours :-)12:26
ajmitchhaha12:26
=== ajmitch does some nfs trickery first
=== schweeb looks at gnome-alsamixer
dholbachwhat was the state of linux-user-mode stuff, was about to chucked out or what?12:30
schweebit has a build dep on 2.4.26 for one12:30
dholbachre-appeared on the list, like a zombie :-)12:30
schweeband I talked to mdz, who is the upstream maintainer12:31
dholbachalright12:31
schweeber debian maintainer12:31
schweeband he said that it's not currently worth the time to fix12:31
schweeb2.4.26 is security hole ridden12:32
schweeband it would require a big overhaul to make it work for 2.6 kernels12:32
dholbachok12:33
dholbach*arg* gnucash build-depends on libtool12:33
schweebhehe12:33
ajmitchnasty12:33
dholbachand on m412:33
dholbachnice12:33
=== ajmitch is waiting for his box to stop thrashing so he can look at the todo list for the day
ograBurgundavia, could you run: lsmod|grep fglrx for me ?12:37
ajmitchhmm, I'm glad I got home when I did, raining outside now..12:37
ajmitchjust the sort of weather for hacking12:37
tsengyesh12:38
ograor Seveas ^^^12:38
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ajmitchjust remove from the list packages that appear to have magically been fixed?12:47
ajmitcheg: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/p/portsentry/1.2-5/12:48
dholbachajmitch: yip12:48
ajmitchmake[1] : Entering directory `/build/buildd/echoping-5.2.0'12:48
ajmitchcd . && automake --gnu Makefile12:48
ajmitchconfigure.ac:7: your implementation of AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE comes from an12:48
ajmitchconfigure.ac:7: old Automake version.  You should recreate aclocal.m412:48
ajmitchconfigure.ac:7: with aclocal and run automake again.12:48
ajmitchMakefile.am: required file `./depcomp' not found12:48
ajmitchnasty stuff that12:48
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dholbachajmitch: dpatch-edit-patch 01_reran_aclocal_and_automake  ->  aclocal; automake --gnu -f -> ctrl-d   :-)12:50
ajmitcheeevil12:50
ajmitchit only failed on ppc, btw12:50
ajmitchand it'd require adding the dpatch build dependency :)12:51
dholbachwell yes and editing debian/rules :-)12:51
tsengmmm dpatch12:52
Burgundaviaogra: and?12:52
Burgundaviaogra: fglrx                 237312  712:52
ograah, thanks, just needed approval, rolling the fixed package now12:52
schweebbugger12:53
schweebgnome-alsamixer looks to be some gtk+ goofiness I don't understand12:53
=== ajmitch spots a WONTFIX issue on the list there :)
ograBurgundavia, could you try out http://www.grawert.net/hwdb-client_0.5-0ubuntu3_all.deb ?12:58
=== dholbach has to rebuild guppi, before he can finish off gnucash
ograyeesh, i just recieved the hwdb data for a mac mini12:59
schweebheh12:59
Burgundaviaogra: can do12:59
ograBurgundavia, thanks12:59
Burgundaviaogra: got it01:01
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Burgundaviaogra: it worked01:01
ograyeah01:01
dholbachsomeone around who wants to have a look at #8324?01:01
Burgundaviaogra: wierd bug though, the forward button seems to be timed01:01
kokehi motus!01:01
ograBurgundavia, timed ?01:02
dholbachseems like a test, if we can sync fwbuilder01:02
dholbachhey koke01:02
Burgundaviaogra: imm. after it ungreys, it is not clickable01:02
ograBurgundavia, iz GTK bug ;) a ancient one01:02
ograyou need to move the mouse away once its weird :=)01:03
Burgundaviaogra: yes, I see that01:03
Burgundaviaogra: very annoying01:03
ograBurgundavia, you can hit the enter key if youre testing....thats the advantage....(of train a chicken to do i for you)01:04
ajmitchdholbach: btw, have you done over 250 yet?01:04
Burgundaviaogra: lol01:04
dholbachajmitch: no unfortunately not... was busy with those wretched lists the last days :-)01:05
ajmitch:)01:05
=== ajmitch just uploaded a couple of his own that needed fixing
kokewho did the change in PriorityList from "search" to "logs" ??01:05
dholbachkoke: it's new01:06
dholbachkoke: UniverseDoesNotBuild now is obsolete01:06
kokethere are a lot packages without build problems01:06
dholbachso i figured it'd be the easiest thing, to check the build-dir01:06
Burgundaviaogra: hmm, wierd gtk display glitch01:06
kokelike the WithoutDesktopFile01:06
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ograBurgundavia, yop01:06
dholbachkoke: we're weeding out01:06
Burgundaviaogra: no different one01:07
ajmitchkoke: well if you want to add extra columns to indicate which category they belong to?01:07
ogra??01:07
Burgundaviaogra: text wierdness01:07
ograNOOO01:07
dholbachkoke, ajmitch:those are just from http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/*.html01:07
ograBurgundavia, where01:07
dholbachkoke, ajmitch: if you come across one that built on all archs, remove them from the list01:08
ajmitchdholbach: ok, so it's not the whole collated list of packages to fix, no matter what the problem :)01:08
schweebI can't for the life of me get libgdiplus to build either... not even the newer version01:08
Burgundaviaogra: on video, really minor01:08
=== ogra hasnt written one line of the code he is suppoed to tonight
dholbachajmitch, koke: sorry for all the confusion the lists brought01:08
ograBurgundavia, elaborate please01:08
ajmitchdholbach: no! they're great :)01:08
Burgundaviaogra: easiest to make you a capture and you can see01:08
ograBurgundavia, or mail me a sshot01:08
kokedholbach: ok, I hope tomorrow I'll be back to real world :D01:09
=== dholbach looks at xfprint4
dholbachkoke: cool :-)01:09
kokeI just came back home yesterday, but some friends are visiting the city01:09
kokeI'm soo tired :)01:09
Burgundaviaogra: I will01:10
Burgundaviaogra: what is your email?01:10
dholbachBurgundavia: hostmaster@grawert.net01:11
Burgundaviaok01:11
ograheh, you just sent me a mail ;)01:11
schweebtsocks appears to be building fine now01:11
dholbachkoke: so now you're going to have a beer or something?01:11
kokedholbach: no, I'm on bed now01:11
ajmitchhas there been any news at all on the status of apt-get.org packages?01:11
kokerelaxing in my universe :)01:12
dholbachajmitch: just those 5 mails on the mailing list01:12
ajmitchok..01:12
schweeblamont: wu-ftpd might need a kick on ia64, builds fine on all others, and the problem looks like a buildd problem01:16
schweeblamont: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/w/wu-ftpd/2.6.2-17.2/wu-ftpd_2.6.2-17.2_20050328-0636-ia64-failed01:16
dholbachcrimsun: you'll update xfprint4 then as well?01:16
ograBurgundavia, i must admit i dont really see the difference in the screenshots....01:19
ajmitchwhat do we need to do about those that just have 1 arch remaining in 'given-back' state?01:19
=== schweeb heads home
Burgundaviaogra: there is a small display glitch with the text01:19
ograhmm01:19
thierryim packaging gdesklets 0.34.3 ... anyone interested to commit the change after?01:21
dholbachthierry: seb128 is the maintainer afaik01:23
thierryk...01:23
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seb128hi01:25
seb128what's the issue with gdesklets ?01:25
dholbachseb128: <thierry> im packaging gdesklets 0.34.3 ... anyone interested to commit the change after?01:26
thierryand when there's new dependencies, what do I need to do?01:26
seb128hum, to be clear01:27
dholbachthierry: change debian/control01:28
dholbachthierry: and maybe try building in a pbuilder (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto)01:28
seb128if somebody want to work on gdesklets, update it, whatever feel free01:28
=== koke 's going to sleep now
seb128but don't break it01:28
kokebye all01:28
VollstreckerIf they aren't added automatically while building, you have to set them manually, or check why they aren't set.01:28
thierryVollstrecker : k so if they are in the configure.in is it ok?01:28
seb128thierry: obviously you don't know a lot about packaging, you should read how that works, updating just by guessing what to do will not give anything good01:29
seb128no01:29
thierryk01:29
ograseb128, how is it possible to break something thats always boken :)01:29
dholbachthierry: no, you have to change debian/control01:29
seb128the Build-Depends need to be manually listed01:29
seb128and the shlibs magic works only with ldd01:29
seb128ie: not for python01:29
seb128and to be clear: gdesklets is crap01:30
ogra:)01:30
seb128they break compatibility every 2 versions01:30
tsengseb128++01:30
seb128and I don't speak about how the desklets are b0rked01:30
tsengthere is a dh_python btw01:30
seb128dh_python will not guess than you need python-xdg to run01:31
seb128that works fine for usual stuff, but not for desklets01:32
Vollstreckerseb128: shlibs works for perl, too. I don't know about python01:33
seb128no it doesn't01:34
seb128dh_perl works for perl01:34
seb128like dh_python for python01:34
=== ogra wonders about the dh_seb128 that fixes all gnome packages in a row :)
thierryok, once the configure is updated, is there anything else to fix for the dependencies?01:35
seb128you don't have to change the configure01:35
thierryI mean the debian/control01:36
seb128debian/control.in should reflect the requirements01:36
Vollstrecker${perl:Depends}, not shlibs, but it works01:36
VollstreckerNow I see what you meant, sry01:36
seb128what an useless discussion, sure than perl:Depends works01:36
ograVollstrecker, thats the equivalent to dh_perl01:36
VollstreckerA little late tonight01:36
ograVollstrecker, here too :) gruss aus der eifel01:37
thierryso after the debian/control fixed is there anything else to do for dependencies?01:37
VollstreckerGru aus Fulda01:37
ograoh, ein hesse01:37
seb128I don't want to be rude, but learn about packaging instead of changing some random stuff on people advice01:37
thierryok01:37
thierryso where can I learn?01:38
dholbachthierry: try the build01:38
dholbachthierry: try building in a pbuilder (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto)01:38
seb128no no no01:38
seb128no point to build packages when you don't know what you do01:38
seb128gdesklets use a debian/control.in, you need to update this one01:39
seb128not debian/control01:39
=== tseng remembers that :)
seb128the Build-Depends need to reflect what you need to build01:39
seb128the Depends what you need to run01:39
thierryk01:39
seb128what depends is new ?01:39
thierrybut where can I learn?01:39
thierryWell, gnome-python and pyorbit01:40
seb128these depends are not new01:40
VollstreckerFor debian there are howtos, for ubuntu I don't know.01:40
thierrywell they are not in the configure.in of 0.33.101:40
seb128the 0.33.1 configure is broken01:40
seb128look on debian/control01:40
ograVollstrecker, the package format is the same....we just use a special versioning scheme for ubuntu changes01:40
seb128python-gnome2 is in the depends01:41
thierryok01:41
seb128http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/01:41
seb128http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/01:41
seb128about the packaging01:41
ograVollstrecker, so all the debian docs apply01:41
seb128and python-gnome2 depends on python-pyorbit01:41
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thierryk01:42
thierrygotta go, thanks guys, I'll learn and come back one day01:43
dholbachbye thierry01:44
seb128what is your requirement usually guys ?01:47
seb128people are supposed to know how the packaging work, or you just upload random stuff as far as the update works ?01:47
dholbachrequirement?01:47
seb128like thierry who wants to update gdesklets01:48
dholbachseb128: i hope you can imagine the answer01:48
ograseb128, we cross check the packages, until we think the work is sufficient01:48
seb128I've explained to him how to update the changelog a week ago01:48
seb128and to update the debian/control01:48
dholbachseb128: if we don't feel confident in people they don't become MOTUs01:48
ajmitchyay, got an old imac, might be able to build powerpc stuff now01:48
seb128but he doesn't even know what the package install, how the control field work, etc01:48
tsengseb128: we keep giving their stuff back until we are happy with it01:49
seb128k01:49
tsengif they arent getting a clue after awhile01:49
tsengim not sure what to tell them01:49
seb128because updating gdesklets once is easy, that's basically a changelog update01:49
tsengpeople here so far either get it, or are total tools (HG)01:49
seb128but if there is one change he's screwed because he basically doesn't know anything out of the changelog update and will not notice any issue01:50
seb128k :)01:50
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ogradholbach, morgue morgue morgue01:56
dholbachogra: go ahead :-)01:57
=== dholbach uploads the fix anyway ;-)
ograheh01:58
dholbachelmo didnt morgu-ify the others i told him to01:58
dholbachi think morguifying will be breezy business01:58
ograhmm01:59
=== ogra thinks this could become a malone stress test for unmorguified software
dholbachogra: that's what i like about you: you always think positive :-)02:00
ograhehe02:01
=== ajmitch gets to fixing up qemu
dholbachcrimsun: will you get xfprint4 synced too?02:11
dholbachcrimsun: because there's a build issue and i fixed it, before realizing it was xfce - shall i upload it nevertheless?02:11
crimsundholbach: yes, and yes02:11
dholbachok02:11
dholbachrock02:11
crimsunthanks :)02:11
dholbachde rien :-)02:12
Vollstreckercrimsun: I got archive.h included. I've done that by hand while interupting the build process with the read instruction. Tommorrow morning I'll modifie the rules, to include it automatically.02:28
crimsunVollstrecker: In the 'install-gtk-dev' target?02:29
crimsunif so, I'll just use a manual install invocation02:30
VollstreckerIn that lines I gave you. install-gtk-shared-stamp:02:30
crimsunuh I pasted the wrong target02:30
crimsunyeah02:31
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dholbachhmmmmm, fresh krack :-)02:31
crimsunVollstrecker: ok, I'll make that adjustment and test locally.  Thanks for your troubleshooting.02:31
VollstreckerNow I have to look, in which dir it is, when this line is reached, then I can copy it automatically.02:31
VollstreckerMaybe you wait, tommorrow morning it will be in debian bts, so you can use your time for some other pkg'd02:32
Vollstreckerpkg's02:32
crimsunright, but we might not be able to sync from Sid02:32
VollstreckerI can send you the modified lines per mail.02:33
crimsunif we can, then great; if not, at least wxwidgets2.5_2.5.3.2ubuntu4 will have archive.h02:33
lamontschweeb: kicked02:33
crimsunVollstrecker: ok, great02:33
VollstreckerJust give me your adress02:34
crimsunVollstrecker: crimsun at fungus dot sh dot nu02:34
Vollstreckerk, you'll get it when it's finished.02:35
dholbachgnucash fixed02:36
dholbachkterm fixed02:40
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ajmitch_dholbach: good work :)02:47
ajmitch_nfs is giving me issues, otherwise I would have qemu fixed by now.. :)02:48
schweeblamont: cool, that kick did it :)02:49
crimsunok, building locally.02:49
dholbachi look at  wing  now02:58
dholbachwing uploaded03:06
schweebdholbach: man, you're on a tear03:06
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dholbachthe list now looks quite ok03:08
dholbachi went through the top 25% and most of packages are in state waiting-for-powerpc/ia64-to-start-building-instead-of-smoking-crack03:09
ograhey, youre lagging dholbach ...03:09
ogra<dholbach> i look at  wing  now03:09
ogra<dholbach> wing uploaded03:09
ograthat were 7mins03:09
dholbachhaha :_)03:09
ogra;)03:09
dholbachok... if the release gets delayed we may even tackle 25%-50%03:10
=== dholbach has a look
dholbach;-)03:10
ograheh03:10
schweebis there talk of delay?03:12
dholbachyes -> #u-d, jdub and mdz had a conversation, due to gnome-2.10.1 release date03:13
=== schweeb reads his scrollback
schweebahh03:16
=== ajmitch_ wonders if the pam 0.78 packages got tested at all
ajmitch_(u-hardened stuff)03:18
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dholbachhey tiil03:25
dholbachhey tritium03:25
tritiumHi dholbach03:25
tritiumI have an email from Jorge Bernal03:26
tritiumIt takes me to the MOTU page03:26
dholbachhm? what abouit?03:27
tritiumI'm trying to figure out what it is.  I just figured it out.  It's because I subscribed to that wiki page ;)03:27
tritiumheh03:27
dholbachah alright :-)03:27
tritiumHackers is on TV, so it has dumbed me down.03:28
schweebindeed it will do that03:29
dholbachpowermanga done03:29
schweebI watched it on DVD the other day, and drooled on myself for the rest of the day ;)03:29
tritiumschweeb, do you find that summation equations float around the air when you write code?  ;)03:30
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schweebI don't generally write code :)03:30
=== dholbach looks at dict-bouvier
tritiumSilly movie03:31
tritiumWe could take our motto from the movie, with a slight modification:  "Hackers of the universe, unite!" ;)03:33
=== dholbach looks at liquidwar too
dholbachthat movie was REALLY silly ;-)03:37
dholbachalthough it's been a whilew03:37
tritiumno kidding03:37
dholbachdict-bouvier done03:39
tritiumdholbach, you're rocking tonight03:40
ajmitch_qemu builds03:41
=== ajmitch_ will upload in a bit
dholbachtritium: it's how i feel, when i don't have to take care of LISTS :-)03:41
tritium:)03:41
dholbachliquidwar fixed, looking at ion203:47
=== ajmitch_ uploads qemu, the package even works :)
dholbachwoohoo03:50
dholbachion2 done03:54
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dholbachsomeone aware of #8324 and #8327?03:55
zezerehello there!03:55
dholbachhey zezere03:55
zezerewhere shall i report a broken package?03:55
zezeredholbach:03:56
dholbachjust tell us03:56
zezere:D03:56
zezerecool03:56
dholbachxmule? fwbuilder?03:56
zezereok03:56
zezerexmule03:56
dholbach;-)03:56
zezereah!03:56
zezere:D03:56
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dholbachzezere: i'll put it on wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo03:57
zezereok03:57
zezerethank u03:57
dholbachzezere: but unless debian has a more recent version or someone packages a new upstream version i see very little change this late in the release cycle03:57
dholbachs/change/chance03:58
zezere:D03:58
zezereisn't there any bugzilla for the universe packages?03:58
dholbachzezere: it's in the work03:58
dholbachhttp://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone03:59
zezereah!03:59
dholbachbut we're experiencing problems with the backend03:59
dholbachbut we all hope it's ready soon03:59
Burgundaviazezere: if it breaks, tell us03:59
dholbachor file a bug for the malone component03:59
zezere:D04:01
zezerethank u04:01
dholbachde rien04:01
zezerewell... bai bai!04:01
dholbachbye04:01
tsengwhere are metallikops mono04:01
zezerei'll be back when i discover some more bugs...04:01
dholbachgood one04:02
zezerehm.....04:05
zezerehow do i register in malone04:05
zezere?04:05
zezerethere's no such thing as a "register" link04:05
dholbachyou have an account on the main website? like for the wiki?04:06
schweebtseng: he started a new job today04:06
schweebso he's probably not around04:06
tsengeh?04:06
schweebmetallikop04:06
tsengoh04:06
tsengyes04:06
schweeb<--- lives by kop04:06
tsengoh04:07
tritiumin meecheegan?04:07
schweebdid he make 1.0.6 packages or 1.1.5?  last I heard, he made 1.1.504:07
schweebtritium: ja04:07
tseng1.1.5 i guess04:07
tritium;)04:07
tsengits not on his main page04:07
schweebI'm not sure he's put them up anywhere04:08
schweebwhen/where did he mention them?04:08
tsengbeats me04:09
tsengsomeone else mentioned it04:09
schweebah04:09
=== dholbach looks at xautolock and glunarclock
tritiumdholbach, did you and herve get the packages from main removed from the list?04:15
dholbachxautolock done04:16
dholbachtritium: herve luckily took care of it04:16
tritiumcool.04:16
dholbachlooking at mgapdesk04:25
dholbachi'm out with murphy04:28
tsengthat could be taken out of context04:29
dholbachtorcs uploaded04:52
dholbachnvtv uploaded04:57
tsengeasy there tiger04:57
dholbachtseng: you're right04:58
dholbachi think i'll call it the day04:59
dholbachgood night pals, i'm off05:02
StoneTableI've got a little problem trying to build libgdiplus05:05
StoneTableIt looks like the latest stable version is incompatible with the cairo in hoary05:05
StoneTablebut the unstable version of libgdiplus (1.15+) will build05:05
dholbachStoneTable: does debian have it?05:08
StoneTablelooks like debian has 1.0.4 of libgdiplus, but (checking)05:10
dholbachyes05:11
StoneTablehm. a newer version of cairo, maybe05:11
StoneTable0.4.0-105:11
StoneTablevs. 0.3.0-1 in hoary05:11
dholbachso no syncing luck05:11
dholbachok... i'm off; StoneTable, i hope, you'll have luck with your experiments :-)05:13
StoneTablethanks ;005:13
StoneTableI'm trying to figure out the next step05:13
dholbachyou could try packageing a new version if their changelog gives some sort of evidence it'd work05:14
dholbach*wave*05:15
StoneTableyeah, I'll try that next, thanks05:15
StoneTablewell, built the updated libcairo and libpixman from debian but libgdiplus still isn't building.05:55
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encolpehi08:46
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dholbachgooood morning09:18
\shmoening09:21
\sh-e+r09:21
dholbachhey \sh09:21
dholbachhow are you?09:21
\shtired and working on the emails from last week ;)09:22
dholbachi'm tired as well ;-)09:22
dholbachogra: klingeling? how are YOU?09:22
Treenaksdholbach: you're not tired.. I am.. *4 hours of sleep*09:26
dholbachTreenaks: as much as i had09:26
dholbachTreenaks: look at hoary-changes and you'll see ;-)09:27
Treenaksdholbach: hmm..09:27
dholbach*GRR* why didnt half of the crap i uploaded get built?09:28
=== Treenaks saw an X upload...
Treenaksand an installer upload09:28
Treenaksand lots of other stuff09:28
dholbachlists.ubuntu.com/archives/hoary-changes/2005-March/thread.html09:29
dholbachall the Universe stuff09:29
Treenaksyes.. look before that.. xorg, lots of installer components09:29
dholbachyes09:30
dholbachTB meeting today09:30
ogradholbach, hearly done09:33
ogranearly even09:33
dholbachogra: Oh good! Jolly good!09:34
ograhttp://www.lanschmiede.net/hwdb-data/09:34
ogra:-D09:34
ograautosubmitted ;)09:35
Treenakshwdb-server? :)09:35
ograTreenaks, hmm, something like that...the interim...09:35
dholbachyeah09:35
Treenakswhy 500 <xlogdata> elements, instead of one, which we parse later?09:36
Treenaksand bootdata09:36
ograTreenaks, currently still very ugly and insecure...09:36
ograTreenaks, the real server will be a postgers db and cut the file into little pieces...09:36
Treenaksogra: yes, but why are you splitting boot and X logs into pieces, instead of keeping them as one big chunk of CDATA?09:37
dholbachok, two days for you all to tell me what you did in the MOTU world and liked about it... and liked me to write about it in the MOTU report09:37
Treenaksdholbach: mail or irc?09:38
ograTreenaks, i have worked nearly 25h now, please lets discuss my bad xml later...09:38
Treenaksogra: k :)09:38
dholbachTreenaks: how you like it09:38
TreenaksI really need my new laptop.. that'll make me so much more productive in MOTU-land09:38
Treenaks(1.8GHz vs 600MHz, 512M vs 192M)09:39
Treenaks(80G vs 20G)09:39
dopeyis there a qemu howto somewhere?09:40
dholbachTreenaks: i'm just glad if we remember everything, it's all nice and pretty and you guys were involved in writing as well ;-)09:40
Treenaksapt-get install qemu :)09:40
dholbachhey dopey09:40
dopeylo dholbach09:40
dopeyTreenaks: i got that far, but the image files that the included debian script generated didnt seem to work09:40
dopeyTreenaks: i'm assuming, of course, that i'm doing something wrong09:40
Treenakshmm09:40
dopeythus was hopefull there'd be such a document available09:40
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=== dopey starts off simple - what does one type in order to fire up qemu with an image?
Burgundaviaqemu -cdrom image.iso09:48
Burgundaviadopey: expect to use a lot of cpu time and it will look like it has hung a lot of the time09:57
dopeyBurgundavia: i used 'qemu-make-debian-root' to generate a hard disk image - do i also need to create a disk image to do what you suggest?09:58
Burgundaviadopey: that would be for a live cd09:59
Burgundaviadopey: that is just to run a livecd09:59
dopeyBurgundavia: at the moment, i'm using 'qemu -hda imagefile' - it just doesnt seem to work10:12
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dopey(by 'doesnt work' i mean takes a long time to not doing anything visible)10:15
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dholbachhey sivang!10:17
dholbachsivang: how are you?10:19
sivangdholbach: fine, 'sup?10:19
dholbachsivang: i'm a bit tired...10:20
sivangdholbach: anyway, I need to run, laterz buddy :)10:21
dholbachsivang: but happily gambolling through wiki/UniversePriorityList10:21
dholbachsivang: have a nice day10:21
sivangdholbach: thanks!10:21
Burgundaviadopey: qemu will take a long time to use10:24
Burgundaviadopey: I am not really conversant on how to use it10:24
dopeyno probs, i'll just leave it for an hour or so then10:24
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dholbachdoko: cool you fixed hfsutils *taking it off the list*10:42
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GheRiverogood morning!10:43
Treenakshey ghe10:43
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dholbachahhhh knoda, new Krack11:21
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dholbachxonix fixed11:30
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dholbachmark has responded to our apt-get.org mails12:14
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janihello all12:16
dholbachhey jani12:17
janican you guess why I logged in ;) ?12:18
janihint sesame-street :)12:18
janinope he's idle for 4 days 10 hours...12:19
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ajmitchdholbach: he has?12:28
=== ajmitch hasn't got that mail yet
dholbach"Prioritisation of apt-get.org and other .deb imports"12:29
dholbachu-d@12:29
ajmitchobviously my mailbox is yet to receive it :)12:29
ajmitchas is gmane12:30
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dholbachhttp://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-March/006235.html12:31
dholbachand: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-March/006236.html12:31
ajmitchwaiting for thrashing to stop... ;)12:32
dholbachwhat could "I'm happy to compromise on getting it "all done" for Hoary, to allow everyone time to polish the Hoary release, as long as we can aim to have Universe be totally comprehensive for Breezy. " possibly mean?12:33
dholbachi don't grok "compromise" in that context12:34
ajmitchbecause we don't have the time before the release12:34
dholbachto compromise means... leave it for hoary, if you don't make it?12:34
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ajmitchno idea what he means12:35
ajmitchactually I think he means he's willing to let us drop apt-get.org for now12:35
ajmitchso long as we get it in for breezy12:35
dholbachhmm12:36
ajmitchand let us work frantically on the existing universe packages12:36
dholbachyeah and morguify half of them12:36
ajmitchand that we request imports, rather than a wholesale import of everything12:36
dholbachsomeone please nudge lamont to rebuild nearly all of those on the lists (powerpc and ia64 in most cases)12:36
dholbachbecause murphy needs to get out ;-)12:36
ajmitchhehe :)12:37
dholbachsee you later12:37
ajmitchok, bye12:37
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jintyhoi, I asked around yesterday but think it got lost, anyone want to help me squish a schoolbell bug? there is a patch(http://issues.schooltool.org/file28) ready for uploading for http://issues.schooltool.org/issue185.12:48
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dholbachjinty: i have no permission to read http://issues.schooltool.org/file2801:03
dholbachhey derdg01:03
dholbachderdg: did your nick change recently?01:03
derdgno, i'm in a data centre. left my desktop elsewhere01:05
dholbachah alright01:05
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dholbachhey koke01:12
kokehi!01:12
kokeI don't understand very well the new UniversePriorityList01:13
kokeAlmost all the logs are because missing build-deps01:13
dholbachit shows all the test-builds that failed (at some stage)01:13
dholbachwe remove those that finally built01:13
dholbachand fix those that have to be fixed01:14
dholbachfor the rest we nudge lamont01:14
jintydholbach: drat... pretty silly of me. this then http://issues.schooltool.org/file28/patch01:14
dholbachand for powerpc/ia64 we should nudge him again01:14
dholbachjinty: what do you want to with the patch?01:15
dholbachi mean where could we help?01:16
jintya re-upload of schoolbell with that patch01:16
dholbachok, will do01:16
jintyThe bug it fixes is pretty serious and I would prefer hoary not to go out with it01:17
jintyThanks!!01:17
dholbachalright01:17
dholbachi'll do it now01:17
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hspranghy there :)01:20
dholbachjinty: done01:23
tsengjust a heads up, im attempting to do everything in my power to make mono 1.1.5 work at this point01:27
tsenglest we ship beagled with serious memory leaking01:27
dholbachWOW01:27
dholbachROCK01:28
jintydholbach: great! thanks a lot!01:28
dholbachGO AHEAD01:28
tsengheh.01:28
dholbachjinty: my pleasure :-)01:28
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dholbachkvdr fixed02:12
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dholbachbbl02:30
Gervystartseng: that's great! Thanks for your job!02:41
StoneTabletseng:  excellent!  I've only been able to get libgdiplus 1.1.5 to build02:46
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thierryI'm trying to follow this page : http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-build.en.html#s-completebuild but I don't know what is my secret PGP phrase04:39
thierryHow can I find it?04:39
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tritiumthierry, you need to setup your gpg key: http://webber.dewinter.com/gnupg_howto/english/GPGMiniHowto.html04:48
thierrythanks tritium04:52
tritiumno problem :)04:53
crimsunmorn' :)05:30
tritiumGood morning, crimsun :)05:30
Vollstreckercrimsun: You got my mail?05:30
crimsunVollstrecker: just logging in, actually05:30
VollstreckerBurt first, Hi crimsun05:30
crimsunVollstrecker: ah, I used a very similar workaround (uploaded 2.5.3.2ubuntu4 last night, already built and in archives)05:33
VollstreckerNot so cruelty like mine?05:34
crimsunalmost exactly like yours :)05:34
crimsunI used install, but otherwise it's identical05:35
VollstreckerI never used install.05:35
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HostingGeekShould I try and get $100K tomz or is that pushing it too myxh?05:37
HostingGeek*much05:37
HostingGeekI will of cause not accept less than $20k05:38
HostingGeekooops05:38
HostingGeekwrong channel05:38
crimsunok, gotta scram.  Will be a few minutes late for TB.05:39
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dholbachhai05:49
Vollstreckerhi05:50
HostingGeekhi daniel05:50
tritiumHi dholbach :)05:51
dholbachhey you three, how are you?05:51
tritiumNot bad.  How are you?05:52
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dholbachbit tired but ok05:52
dholbachi'll get myself some tea and start working then ;-)05:52
dokoherve: ping?05:58
dholbachdoko: he's not here... i'll fetch him :-)06:01
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herveheya!06:02
tritiumhey herve06:02
dholbachdoko: may i present you: herv, the incredible! :-)06:03
=== herve *blushse*
thierryis 0.34.3-0ubuntu1 a correct number version for the 0.34.3 package of gdesklets? I'm getting a warning with  lintian -i gdesklets_0.34.3-0ubuntu1_i386.changes06:04
dokoherve: you did want to send me an zope-debhlper patch?06:04
hervethierry, lintian emits this warning for every package we add ubuntu in the revision06:04
hervedoko, er... no...06:05
hervebut Fabio from Debian is looking forward to :-)06:05
dholbachdoko: maybe it was ajmitch06:05
dokodholbach: no, ajmitch does php4 ...06:05
herveajmitch, is a python&zope master too ;-)06:05
herveanyway, I sens you no patch06:06
kokehttp://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/g/gpm/1.19.6-19ubuntu1/ <-- do you know why there's no logs on i386 and ia64??06:06
dholbachdoko: i got it only a bit wrong:   AndrewMitchell: Hacked up /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/zope.mk to make cdbs packaging of zope products easier. Packaged zope-quills as a test.06:06
dholbach;-)06:06
herveso what do I do here? :-)06:07
tritiumdholbach, where is your report located?06:07
dholbachtritium: in /home/daniel/notes unfortunately06:08
tritiumheh, okay ;)06:08
hervethen, see you tonight06:12
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lamontkoke: good question.  It's installed on all 4 though06:12
kokedholbach: if the package is built in all arches should be removed from the list??06:36
kokeexample : http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/m/mirrormagic/2.0.2.0deb1-2/06:36
dholbachyes06:36
dholbachand thanks for that06:36
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tritiumdholbach, is there no longer a TB today?06:41
crimsunit was moved, I forgot06:41
tritiumIt was on the calendar until just a few minutes ago ;)06:41
crimsunI rushed to a place with a more reliable Internet connection, too ;)06:41
dholbachtritium: mdz just changed it on TechnicalBoardAgenda :-(06:42
tritiumwell, maybe you got some exercise ;)06:42
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tritiumdholbach, okay06:42
schweebhrmph07:04
schweebhow long does it take a NEW package to go through? I got an email saying it was approved like 6 days ago :-/07:05
dholbachschweeb: ping elmo07:05
dholbachbut he's really busy07:06
schweebyea07:06
dholbachgiven the release state07:06
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schweebI don't really want to bug him07:06
ograschweeb, be patient, elmo came back today07:06
dholbachand compare to packages in debian :-)07:06
schweebRC is supposed to come out tomorrow07:06
dholbachdrop him a mail07:06
ograschweeb, RC is no issue for universe stuff....it wont be on the CD07:06
schweebright07:06
schweebbut I know that means he's gotta be busy07:07
ograyop07:07
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dholbachhey d3vic307:08
\shgrmpf07:09
d3vic3lo dholbach07:09
\shi can't decide...mono-c# or python07:16
ograpython indeed07:16
ograhi \sh07:16
\shogra, just started @troisdorf my first c# experiments :)07:19
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ograheh07:27
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kokehttp://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/p/pdfjam/1.10-1/pdfjam_1.10-1_20050324-0848-powerpc-given-back07:38
kokethis has a build-deps problem07:38
lamontkoke: it's also before 2005-03-24 18:5707:38
kokebut if I do pbuilder login and apt-get build-dep pdfjam, I have no problem07:38
kokeoOp07:38
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kokethere are a lot of log like this07:39
kokeis quite confusing for me07:39
lamontkoke: yeah.  ignore them07:39
kokelamont: ok, but I'm following the priority list, looking for smth to fix07:40
kokeand I can't find a package that actually FTBFS07:40
lamontah.07:41
lamontsee people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/Test/byDate/07:41
schweebgg lamont07:42
schweebhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/byDate/07:42
schweeb:p07:42
lamontschweeb: yeah. that.07:43
kokelamont: there isn't a needs-build list, to mix with priority list??07:43
lamontbuildLogs/Test/Lists/hoary-test.needs-build.i386, for example.07:43
kokelamont: oh! thanks :D07:43
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hervehi all!07:45
dholbachhey herve07:46
hervedoko, glad to see things got better with Fabio07:55
herveso... let's get that taxes payed!08:03
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schweeblamont: hrm, in looking over the bydate log for Test... is Test still supposed to be trying the older version of workrave?  dholbach uploaded 1.6.2-1ubuntu1, and it's still trying to build 1.6.2-1 under Test08:08
schweebhttp://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hoary-changes/2005-March/003891.html08:08
schweebhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/w/workrave/1.6.2-1/08:09
kokehttp://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/x/xbill/2.1-4/xbill_2.1-4_20050326-1904-ia64-failed <-- what does this mean??08:11
schweebkoke: looks like buildd goofiness... tell lamont to kick it08:13
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janihello all08:14
schweebhello08:14
dholbachhey jani08:14
janiwasn't there supposed to be a TB meeting today?08:14
lamontkoke: that's rather common for :03-:04 or :33-:34 time builds.. :-(08:15
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schweeblamont: problems during mirror uploads?08:15
dholbachjani: i heard it like 2 hours ago08:15
dholbachjani: and then changed wiki/Calendar and the channels topic08:16
janiwas cancelled?08:16
lamontschweeb: the buildd's look at the master archive, for other reasons, and therefore has a slightly larger window where Release.gpg doesn't match Packages.gz08:16
schweebgotcha08:16
janidid you write anything before 'heard it 2 hours ago' ?08:16
dholbachjani: seems to have been postponed a week ago or something, just didnt know08:17
schweeblamont: scroll up for my question about workrave and Test :)08:17
janiI seem to remember that too but I thought the chan topic is more autjoritative ;)08:17
janiok thanks08:17
lamontschweeb: yeah - Test is a snapshot from last week08:19
lamontelmo was talking of flatlining it to do a fresh build of everything.08:19
dholbach*arg* i never use my scanner, now i have to use it and it's unconfigured yet *argl*08:19
lamontI told him was good by me...08:19
schweebyea, sounds like a good idea08:19
lamontof course, the down side is that it'll rebuild all of main first.  on the upside, that should only take about 6-8 hours, give or take08:19
schweebdholbach: I've found USB scanners are pretty simple to set up these days :)08:20
dholbachschweeb: i hope so... just found the crappy firmware in an .exe file :-)08:21
schweeblamont: it'll save some time for false build errors like that, though08:21
lamontyeah08:21
schweebfirmware? eww08:21
schweeblast one I tried just worked OOB08:21
dholbachschweeb: it was just a crappy some euro scanner08:21
schweebah08:21
dholbachbut it worked with my debian installation... *looking*08:21
schweebthis was a compaq08:21
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kokeI think I've fixed d4x :D09:04
dholbachWOW cool09:04
dholbachwhat was it?09:04
kokethere was gtk code embedded into one file09:05
kokethat obvioulsy crashed with actual gtk code09:05
dholbachand you fixed it?09:06
kokeit seemed like a disty hack for features available in cvs but not in stable gtk+09:06
dholbachoh i see, but cool09:06
dholbachwill it be your first upload?09:06
kokedholbach: yep, in fact, the conflicting code was between /**************/ marks :D09:06
dholbach:-))09:06
kokedholbach: some hours ago elmo told me "I'll go see where we're upto with the new MOTUs in a bit"09:07
koke05:59 in the logs == ??:?? UTC09:07
dholbachkoke: i guess we're in the same timezone :-)09:08
kokedholbach: that was around 17:00 ~ 18:0009:08
kokemaybe later09:09
ogradholbach, i guess he means lamonts logs...(which are located in the DC, which is in UTC TZ)09:09
kokeogra: nop, irclogs09:09
ograha, thats fabio, he is in denmark09:09
dholbachanyway, i saw it too09:09
dholbachand it was ages ago09:09
ograso UTC+109:09
kokeogra: it seems there is a 12hrs offset09:10
kokemybe 11, maybe 13 :P09:10
ogranope, there is a 12h clock i guess, not 24h09:10
dholbach.xchat2/xchatlogs/FreeNode-#ubuntu-devel.log:Mr 29 17:59:32 elmo       koke: I've been offline with easter weekend too, I'll go see where we're upto with the new MOTUs in a bit09:11
dholbachso everythings alright: 5:5909:11
siretartnevening folks :)09:12
dholbachhey siretart09:12
siretartI'm again looking through the PriorityList, there seem quite a lot of packages not building because of weird dependency errors. what to do with them?09:13
dholbachsiretart: wait until the magic buildds had a go with them again09:14
siretartdholbach: ok.09:14
siretartwoah, gcompris is a big beast :)09:15
dholbachsiretart: it's a pain09:15
dholbachsiretart: ask herve :-)09:15
siretart:)09:16
herve?09:27
hervesiretart, I offer you gcompris to fix :-)09:27
dholbachin the same time you code a new one09:28
siretartherve: I just downloaded it, but there seems to be some more gtk foo :/09:28
siretartherve: did you get past this errors: interface.c:51: error: initializer element is not constant09:28
siretartinterface.c:51: error: (near initialization for `menubar1_uiinfo[0] .label')09:28
hervegtk, .desktop, python...09:29
hervedholbach, am I forgetting something? :-)09:29
schweebhah, have fun with that, siretart09:29
schweebI was getting that earlier09:29
schweebwith gnome-alsamixer I believe it was09:29
schweebI couldn't figure out which friggin library it wanted09:29
schweebso I set StoneTable off on it :)09:30
herveguys09:31
hervenote martin pitt just uploaded fixed mozilla-locales-*09:31
herveI think we have some on our list09:31
siretartschweeb: herve: did you get past that interface.c:51 error?09:35
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mdzmorning guys09:41
mdzdid sabdfl's email satisfy your concerns about the imports from third-party repositories?09:41
hervesiretart, nope09:42
siretartok09:42
hervemdz, we *would* like another repo in ubuntu09:42
hervenot to mix those imports with universe where we can afford another level of QA09:42
mdzwe already have multiverse09:43
herveisn't it for legal issues?09:43
mdzherve: currently it is used for software which does not meet Ubuntu licensing guidelines09:44
mdzbut we could redefine it09:44
herveha ok09:44
herveyes why not, multiverse == "you have been warned!"09:44
mdzright, it already has the right caveats09:44
mdzas-is, it's up to you to determine whether you have the right to use it, etc.09:45
herveand maybe move packages to universe when we have a thorough review and can afford the same level of support09:45
StoneTableyeah, I'm working on that same error, soon as I finish mulching in the front lawn09:45
schweebsiretart: ^^^09:45
siretartoh. :)09:46
hervemdz, right now we have two concern09:46
hervea big chunck of packages although we're already short on time to fix the existing universe09:47
herveand a mass of packages to import while we have folks here with NEW packages and a policy to review and add them09:47
mdzright, did you read the email from Mark?09:49
herveyes09:49
mdzbasically, we are happy for the MOTU team to set the pace for importing these packages, and for there to be a policy for acceptance09:50
hervesure09:51
hervebut hoary is not a realistic target for me09:51
hervebreezy is good09:51
crimsunherve: fixing python-qt3 and python-kde3 now.09:56
hervecrimsun, good luck ;-)09:56
crimsunyeah, I'll need it ;)09:56
hervecrimsun, python-kde3 is barely to compile from source09:58
herveseems like I fscked up sip4-qt3 :-/09:58
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herveplop encolpe09:59
crimsunright now python-kde3 can't be compiled.  I needed to rebuild python-qt3 because the upper version restriction on python2.4-sip4-qt3 is too strong (needed to be << 4.4 instead of << 4.2)09:59
hervewhy 4.4?10:00
crimsunbecause 4.2ubuntu... is what's available10:00
crimsunwhich is does not meet << 4.2 requirement10:00
herveI mean10:00
crimsuns/is//10:00
hervewhy not << 4.3?10:00
crimsunI looked at the previous range, which is between 4.0 and 4.210:01
crimsunif you think 4.3 is sufficient, I'll bump it down10:01
herveI don't know at all :-)10:01
hervebut since we don't know 4.310:01
herve(doesn't exist even)10:02
hervelet's limit to this one10:02
crimsunand minor is usually development where A[BP] I breaks, ok10:02
herveif you need to10:02
encolpeHi10:02
hervedebian uploaded a new python-qt3 today10:02
hervewith both python 2.3 and 2.4 modules generated10:02
encolpeall ?10:03
hervecrimsun, not all software have the same versionning scheme10:03
crimsunherve: ok, so what do you wish the range restriction to be?10:03
herve<< 4.310:03
hervebecause the future is unknown :-)10:04
crimsunthat's what I did10:04
crimsun(the rebuild just restarted about 30 seconds ago)10:04
herverock, now you can light a candle ;-)10:04
siretartI found the cause for the lxdoom failing to build: http://sources.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=41410:06
siretartits a bug in the linker :(10:07
hervesiretart, woah!10:07
siretartpatch applied, I wonder if there are also packages in main suffering from this problem..10:07
siretarts/applied/attached to the bugreport/10:08
herveyeah, that's not what I call "applied" ;-)10:08
hervecrimsun, the configure script succeeded?10:08
siretartsrry, should think more before hitting <return> *G*10:09
herveman... I haven't eaten yet :-/10:09
dholbachzul and i were talking about the kernel situation in universe:10:09
dholbachzul since the debian kernel guys changed the name of the package we suggested that you guys sync with debian 2.6.8 and get the ones for the arch we support10:09
dholbachdholbach what about the 2.4 stuff?10:09
dholbachdholbach the patches and everything10:09
dholbachzul gimme a sec..:)10:09
dholbachdholbach alright10:09
dholbachoh sorry10:09
dholbachnow zul invites me to #u-kernel ;-)10:10
zulok..10:10
zulnah..here is fine10:10
hervedholbach, you flooder :-)10:10
dholbachconfusion perfect10:10
siretartah, and this seems to be debian #27492910:10
zuldholbach: yeah if you guys sync debian 2.6.8 for the arches we support10:11
zulie  386,686,686-smp,k7,k8,powerpc,ia64, and sparc that would be cool10:11
dholbachwhat about 2.4?10:12
dholbachall the patches, images?10:12
zul2.4 should be ok as well, i would say the images just for now10:12
dholbachloads of the meta-packages aren't installable10:12
zulgrr...10:12
zuli think that would be up to you guys..10:13
dholbachok... we leave the images that we support (last version, right?) and we're set?10:14
zuldholbach: yes 2.6.8 for the arches i listed about im waiting for confirmation about hppa10:15
dholbachand for 2.4 the same10:15
zuli would say 2.4.2910:15
dholbachwow... they have it already?10:15
zulits in the svn10:16
dholbachargl10:16
dholbachwe really have loads of things to do10:16
zulactually 2.4.27 would probably be better10:16
dholbachi can't promise that we make it10:16
dholbachnot at all10:16
zulsure no problem10:16
crimsunherve: yes.10:16
crimsunherve: we're supposed to maintain the python2.3 packages, correct?10:17
siretartHA! I got lxdoom building on amd64 :)10:19
hervecrimsun, yes10:20
hervesiretart, you ROCK!10:20
crimsunherve: argh.  That means I have to create another build target in debian/rules and populate debian/ .10:20
siretartherve: there where 2 "extern int errno;" statments in lxdoom source. replacing them with an #include <errno.h> helped10:20
siretartherve: I'll prepare a package..10:21
hervesiretart, I hope you made a nice dpatch patch ;-)10:21
siretartherve: not yet, I'm on it..10:21
siretart;)10:21
siretartherve: I don't own an amd64, this was remote on a friends machine ;)10:22
herveyou know tseng page about dpatch?10:22
herve(tseng's page)10:22
siretartherve: I'm used to dpatch, thanks. but tseng's page?10:22
siretartI don't think I know that site..10:22
hervetseng.ath.cx/log/?p=710:23
=== tritium believes he fixed xawtv
siretartah, nice page, thanks for the link..10:23
ajmitch_morning10:28
tritiumgood morning, ajmitch10:28
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hervehey koke !10:29
hervehi ajmitch10:29
kokehi!10:30
tritiumHello koke :)10:30
tritiumogra, I believe I've fixed xawtv.  I edited the wiki to request a review for it.10:32
siretartlxdoom awaiting review/sponsoring, wiki updated10:38
hervesiretart, you managed to make it pbuild on your friend's computer?10:39
tritiumherve, what's the procedure here?  Who is supposed to review for us?10:39
herveI could10:40
siretartherve: yeah, he granted me root access in a chroot. nice guy ;)10:40
herveif I have time10:40
hervebut can't upload10:40
hervesiretart, I'd prefer a pbuild10:40
herve(if I had time)10:40
herveI even haven't eaten yet :-/10:40
tritiumherve, no worries.10:41
hervegood!10:48
herveI don't have taxes to pay this year10:48
herveI mean, for 200410:48
encolpeme too10:51
encolpe:)10:51
hervewhich I hardly believe...10:53
herve:-)10:53
encolpeweddings10:53
hervegood catch ;-)10:54
encolpe-s10:54
encolpejust do it ;)10:54
schweebodd10:55
schweebmy package is now in the archive now, but never got announced to hoary-changes10:55
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herveschweeb, I've experienced the same10:56
schweebhrm10:59
schweebdoes mono even work on ia64 or amd64?  should I change gsf-sharp so it doesn't build at all on ia64 and amd64?11:00
herveno s11:00
kokeherve: no s?? ;)11:08
hervefeel free to correct my Spanish ;-)11:08
kokeherve: it's correct, but surprised me :)11:10
siretartdoes anybody here use xfce? xfcalendar seems an easy target to fix *hint* :)11:10
schweebjani and crimsun are working on xfce, I believe11:11
hervekoke, this being correct does surprise me!11:12
crimsunwell, we're doing more waiting currently11:12
schweebstill waiting for elmo to sync?11:12
crimsunwaiting on elmo to merge 4.211:12
crimsunerr, sync.11:13
herveI haven't practiced Spanish for more than 5 years11:13
tritiumcrimsun, you care to review xawtv for me if you're waiting?11:13
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crimsuntritium: in 15 mins, ok.11:13
tritiumsure, thanks11:13
herveheya dredg !11:13
crimsun(trying to iron out some python2.[34] -qt3 issues ;-)11:13
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dredghi11:13
schweebthink I've run out of packages I'm capable of fixing :-/11:14
tritiumno problem, crimsun.  Only if you have time11:14
siretartwell, xfcalendar seems to be missing a build dependency on libxinerama, but I've seen in the wiki that there is some more foo to xfce, so I better leave this package off to crimsun ;)11:14
hervecrimsun, you'r recompiling python-qt3?11:14
crimsunherve: yeah, I need an updated version for python-kde311:14
hervecrimsun, because DD made what you want to do today ;-)11:15
herve(the debian dev)11:15
crimsunoh yeah, I could have just waited duh11:17
crimsuntotally didn't register with me ;)11:17
herveand I told you when you said you began :-p11:17
crimsunyeah, but by that point I was already hacking up debian/rules :)11:18
crimsun(and my mirrors don't get the dinstall updates til ~4 PM EST)11:18
crimsunI'll compare his debian/rules with mine11:18
hervenote he rewrote almost it11:19
herve(almost rewrote it)11:19
herve(it's the zero spelling mistake night!)11:19
crimsunhehe11:20
dholbachre11:20
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siretarthping3 seems to just need an resync from debian for fixing ftbfs on amd6411:21
dholbachi sense activity on UniversePriorityList11:21
crimsunre11:21
hervedholbach, to tell that like you sensed a change in the balance of the force ;-)11:24
dholbachyes, exactly :-)11:24
hervedholbach, good news, I don't pay taxes this year ;-)11:25
hervecrimsun, I reaffected python-kde3 to you11:26
dholbachherve: coool :-))))11:26
crimsunherve: I don't know whether to cry or to cry :D11:27
siretartMOTUToSync updated11:28
hervegood11:35
hervescummvm fixed itself11:35
kokeI wanted to make my first upload but elmo does not answer :(11:37
kokesomeone wants to upload d4x for me?11:37
hervewasn't someone working on gnome-alsamixer?11:37
schweebStoneTable is still, I think11:37
schweebit was having the same kind of issues as gcompris11:38
schweebkoke: do you know if mako sent him your key?  mako's not around today, as he's at the groklaw case11:38
kokeschweeb: I have no idea11:39
StoneTableya11:39
schweebkoke: try again, elmo was just around...11:39
schweebor, you could just try uploading11:40
schweebif your key works, it'll go in the archive, if not, it'll silently disappear (although I dunno if this causes other problems)11:40
kokeschweeb: already silently disappeared ;-)11:40
schweebah11:40
schweebwell then, either mako hasn't sent it, or elmo hasn't added it11:41
=== schweeb eagerly awaits the day when he becomes MOTU
dholbachschweeb: that won't take long... trust me11:41
dholbachwith the good work you do11:41
schweeb:D11:42
koke<elmo> koke: hmm, no, you're not in mako's list yet <-- bad news :(11:42
herveI must admit the motu did incredible work today11:42
herveI mean all people, not just granted motu maintainers ;-)11:42
dholbachkoke: *arg*11:42
dholbachkoke: ask someone to give him his phone number :-)11:43
dholbachherve: HEAR! HEAR!11:43
hervedholbach, hu... have you taken your pills? :()11:43
tritiumI'm off for now.  I'll be back this evening.11:43
herve:-)11:43
hervebye tritium11:43
kokedholbach: who has the number??11:43
tritiumbye herve, and everyone :)11:43
dholbachtritium: packages on the normal place?11:43
tritiumdholbach, yes, my repo11:43
kokedholbach: and... it's urgent enough?? :P11:44
schweebI'd like to fix more packages, but it appears as though most of the bugs are not for my platform, or code related (api changes, etc...)11:44
tritiumThanks for reviewing, dholbach!11:44
dholbachkoke: it was more a joke, but you could ask the guys on #ubuntu-devel11:44
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herveStoneTable, remember to remove a package from the list when you book it in "Working on"11:45
hervewe desperately need to see that list shrink :-)11:45
StoneTableoh, pull it from the list?  okay, I didn't realize that :)11:45
schweebshould we be pulling things like kismet out of the list that only won't build on ia64?11:46
hervethe idea is to make package go up to "Done"11:46
hervewhich is the heaven of motu package :-)11:46
dholbachhehe11:46
herveschweeb, currently won't or never ever?11:46
StoneTableyeah, what about if I'm only working on one platform, but it won't build on several?11:46
schweebherve: not before hoary release... it needs snacc, which is uncompilable on amd6411:47
schweeber ia6411:47
herveschweeb, ok, just postponed then11:47
herveschweeb, the way it is in "Can't build" is fine11:48
schweebit's already noted that it won't build11:48
schweebso should it be removed from lower down11:48
herveha yes11:49
hervebut leave the link to the build logs11:49
herveer11:49
herveforget about it11:49
hervesnacc' logs are the ones important11:50
schweebright11:50
schweebwell, since most of the remaining bugs are obscure, I'll go through and weed out some stuff like that tonight11:50
=== herve is so proud of the motu!:
siretart:)11:51
herveschweeb, a cleaning is welcome, so we see the real work we have left11:51
=== dholbach is so proud of the MOTU and of herve especially :-)
herveer... not today :-)11:52
dholbachalways11:52
dholbachyou'll always be "Herv 'pass da cookie' Cauwelier" to me :-)11:52
hervegaaa11:52
herveI'm sure someone fixed/touched xawtv tonight!11:52
dholbachtritium11:53
dholbachi'm reviewing it11:53
hervedholbach, don't push it too far ;-)11:53
hervewas just for moving it in our workflow11:53
dholbachhehe :-)11:53
=== herve workflow master at the office and the motu!
siretartgood night, folks, gotta get some sleep for tomorrow ;)11:59
hervegood night siretart11:59
dholbachbye siretart11:59
hervethanks again!11:59
dholbachyou're exam tomorrow?11:59
dholbachthought it was thursday?11:59
siretartdholbach: yeah, but tomorrow is the last day to learn/exercise something11:59
dholbachoh good so i remembered right12:00
dholbachsleep tight siretart12:00
siretart;)12:00
siretartthanks. same to you all :)12:00

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