[12:02] dholbach: they're not issues until hoary releases [12:02] then they're issues again [12:02] so it's good to still at least semi-track them... [12:02] might as well make a DoesNotBuildIA64 page [12:02] Burgundavia: like i said, some of that stuff times out for ogra and I, and others can get to it [12:03] lamont: seems like it was a buildd issue [12:03] Burgundavia: to be painfully obvious, we dont want that stuff in the first place, so marking a false dead is cool in my book === lamont looks === tseng hopes he doesnt get hit with fire and brimstone for saying suck [12:03] such [12:04] tseng, sabdfl isnt lurking ;) [12:04] hehe [12:04] tseng: I have no opinion, so I leave it as is === lamont swats dholbach with the pre-1857 log file for catdoc [12:05] heh [12:05] lamont: merci beaucoup :-) [12:06] dholbach: having said that, it looks like it didn't get given back either [12:06] so I did that === dholbach looks at qiv [12:13] Vollstrecker: I will be away for two hours, but please let me know which fixes to merge. [12:13] If it finished till then. [12:15] Vollstrecker: you're not working on the conflicting files of wx2.4 and wx2.5? [12:15] it's something else, right? [12:15] archive.h [12:16] ah ok [12:18] Burgundavia, does the resolution selection work for you (it relys on xrandr afaik) [12:18] (from System->Settings) [12:18] ogra: no [12:18] ah, ok [12:18] ogra: The X Server does not support the XRandR extension. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available. [12:19] thats what you get ? [12:19] yep [12:19] nice [12:19] always have with flgrx drivers === farruinn [~nate@cpe-69-201-13-7.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:22] wow, today i recieve nearly every 10mins a new submission....i'll know every system on the planet if i'm done with all this data... [12:22] hahahaa [12:23] at least all laptop setups ;) [12:24] hi all === ajmitch went in to work today, no internet connection there, and nearly everyone taking the day off :) [12:25] :-)) [12:25] so today is a fine day for MOTU work! :) [12:26] ajmitch: have fun: wiki/UniversePriorityList is all yours :-) [12:26] haha === ajmitch does some nfs trickery first === schweeb looks at gnome-alsamixer [12:30] what was the state of linux-user-mode stuff, was about to chucked out or what? [12:30] it has a build dep on 2.4.26 for one [12:30] re-appeared on the list, like a zombie :-) [12:31] and I talked to mdz, who is the upstream maintainer [12:31] alright [12:31] er debian maintainer [12:31] and he said that it's not currently worth the time to fix [12:32] 2.4.26 is security hole ridden [12:32] and it would require a big overhaul to make it work for 2.6 kernels [12:33] ok [12:33] *arg* gnucash build-depends on libtool [12:33] hehe [12:33] nasty [12:33] and on m4 [12:33] nice === ajmitch is waiting for his box to stop thrashing so he can look at the todo list for the day [12:37] Burgundavia, could you run: lsmod|grep fglrx for me ? [12:37] hmm, I'm glad I got home when I did, raining outside now.. [12:37] just the sort of weather for hacking [12:38] yesh [12:38] or Seveas ^^^ === ajmitch_ [~ajmitch@port163-60.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === motaboy [~motaboy@host116-36.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] just remove from the list packages that appear to have magically been fixed? [12:48] eg: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/p/portsentry/1.2-5/ [12:48] ajmitch: yip [12:48] make[1] : Entering directory `/build/buildd/echoping-5.2.0' [12:48] cd . && automake --gnu Makefile [12:48] configure.ac:7: your implementation of AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE comes from an [12:48] configure.ac:7: old Automake version. You should recreate aclocal.m4 [12:48] configure.ac:7: with aclocal and run automake again. [12:48] Makefile.am: required file `./depcomp' not found [12:48] nasty stuff that === GheRivero [~ghe@81.172.88.47] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] ajmitch: dpatch-edit-patch 01_reran_aclocal_and_automake -> aclocal; automake --gnu -f -> ctrl-d :-) [12:50] eeevil [12:50] it only failed on ppc, btw [12:51] and it'd require adding the dpatch build dependency :) [12:51] well yes and editing debian/rules :-) [12:52] mmm dpatch [12:52] ogra: and? [12:52] ogra: fglrx 237312 7 [12:52] ah, thanks, just needed approval, rolling the fixed package now [12:53] bugger [12:53] gnome-alsamixer looks to be some gtk+ goofiness I don't understand === ajmitch spots a WONTFIX issue on the list there :) [12:58] Burgundavia, could you try out http://www.grawert.net/hwdb-client_0.5-0ubuntu3_all.deb ? === dholbach has to rebuild guppi, before he can finish off gnucash [12:59] yeesh, i just recieved the hwdb data for a mac mini [12:59] heh [12:59] ogra: can do [12:59] Burgundavia, thanks [01:01] ogra: got it === koke [~koke@rm-001-26.serve.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] ogra: it worked [01:01] yeah [01:01] someone around who wants to have a look at #8324? [01:01] ogra: wierd bug though, the forward button seems to be timed [01:01] hi motus! [01:02] Burgundavia, timed ? [01:02] seems like a test, if we can sync fwbuilder [01:02] hey koke [01:02] ogra: imm. after it ungreys, it is not clickable [01:02] Burgundavia, iz GTK bug ;) a ancient one [01:03] you need to move the mouse away once its weird :=) [01:03] ogra: yes, I see that [01:03] ogra: very annoying [01:04] Burgundavia, you can hit the enter key if youre testing....thats the advantage....(of train a chicken to do i for you) [01:04] dholbach: btw, have you done over 250 yet? [01:04] ogra: lol [01:05] ajmitch: no unfortunately not... was busy with those wretched lists the last days :-) [01:05] :) === ajmitch just uploaded a couple of his own that needed fixing [01:05] who did the change in PriorityList from "search" to "logs" ?? [01:06] koke: it's new [01:06] koke: UniverseDoesNotBuild now is obsolete [01:06] there are a lot packages without build problems [01:06] so i figured it'd be the easiest thing, to check the build-dir [01:06] ogra: hmm, wierd gtk display glitch [01:06] like the WithoutDesktopFile === thierry [~t@modemcable248.72-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] Burgundavia, yop [01:06] koke: we're weeding out [01:07] ogra: no different one [01:07] koke: well if you want to add extra columns to indicate which category they belong to? [01:07] ?? [01:07] ogra: text wierdness [01:07] NOOO [01:07] koke, ajmitch:those are just from http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/*.html [01:07] Burgundavia, where [01:08] koke, ajmitch: if you come across one that built on all archs, remove them from the list [01:08] dholbach: ok, so it's not the whole collated list of packages to fix, no matter what the problem :) [01:08] I can't for the life of me get libgdiplus to build either... not even the newer version [01:08] ogra: on video, really minor === ogra hasnt written one line of the code he is suppoed to tonight [01:08] ajmitch, koke: sorry for all the confusion the lists brought [01:08] Burgundavia, elaborate please [01:08] dholbach: no! they're great :) [01:08] ogra: easiest to make you a capture and you can see [01:08] Burgundavia, or mail me a sshot [01:09] dholbach: ok, I hope tomorrow I'll be back to real world :D === dholbach looks at xfprint4 [01:09] koke: cool :-) [01:09] I just came back home yesterday, but some friends are visiting the city [01:09] I'm soo tired :) [01:10] ogra: I will [01:10] ogra: what is your email? [01:11] Burgundavia: hostmaster@grawert.net [01:11] ok [01:11] heh, you just sent me a mail ;) [01:11] tsocks appears to be building fine now [01:11] koke: so now you're going to have a beer or something? [01:11] dholbach: no, I'm on bed now [01:11] has there been any news at all on the status of apt-get.org packages? [01:12] relaxing in my universe :) [01:12] ajmitch: just those 5 mails on the mailing list [01:12] ok.. [01:16] lamont: wu-ftpd might need a kick on ia64, builds fine on all others, and the problem looks like a buildd problem [01:16] lamont: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/w/wu-ftpd/2.6.2-17.2/wu-ftpd_2.6.2-17.2_20050328-0636-ia64-failed [01:16] crimsun: you'll update xfprint4 then as well? [01:19] Burgundavia, i must admit i dont really see the difference in the screenshots.... [01:19] what do we need to do about those that just have 1 arch remaining in 'given-back' state? === schweeb heads home [01:19] ogra: there is a small display glitch with the text [01:19] hmm [01:21] im packaging gdesklets 0.34.3 ... anyone interested to commit the change after? [01:23] thierry: seb128 is the maintainer afaik [01:23] k... === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-20-215.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:25] hi [01:25] what's the issue with gdesklets ? [01:26] seb128: im packaging gdesklets 0.34.3 ... anyone interested to commit the change after? [01:26] and when there's new dependencies, what do I need to do? [01:27] hum, to be clear [01:28] thierry: change debian/control [01:28] thierry: and maybe try building in a pbuilder (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto) [01:28] if somebody want to work on gdesklets, update it, whatever feel free === koke 's going to sleep now [01:28] but don't break it [01:28] bye all [01:28] If they aren't added automatically while building, you have to set them manually, or check why they aren't set. [01:28] Vollstrecker : k so if they are in the configure.in is it ok? [01:29] thierry: obviously you don't know a lot about packaging, you should read how that works, updating just by guessing what to do will not give anything good [01:29] no [01:29] k [01:29] seb128, how is it possible to break something thats always boken :) [01:29] thierry: no, you have to change debian/control [01:29] the Build-Depends need to be manually listed [01:29] and the shlibs magic works only with ldd [01:29] ie: not for python [01:30] and to be clear: gdesklets is crap [01:30] :) [01:30] they break compatibility every 2 versions [01:30] seb128++ [01:30] and I don't speak about how the desklets are b0rked [01:30] there is a dh_python btw [01:31] dh_python will not guess than you need python-xdg to run [01:32] that works fine for usual stuff, but not for desklets [01:33] seb128: shlibs works for perl, too. I don't know about python [01:34] no it doesn't [01:34] dh_perl works for perl [01:34] like dh_python for python === ogra wonders about the dh_seb128 that fixes all gnome packages in a row :) [01:35] ok, once the configure is updated, is there anything else to fix for the dependencies? [01:35] you don't have to change the configure [01:36] I mean the debian/control [01:36] debian/control.in should reflect the requirements [01:36] ${perl:Depends}, not shlibs, but it works [01:36] Now I see what you meant, sry [01:36] what an useless discussion, sure than perl:Depends works [01:36] Vollstrecker, thats the equivalent to dh_perl [01:36] A little late tonight [01:37] Vollstrecker, here too :) gruss aus der eifel [01:37] so after the debian/control fixed is there anything else to do for dependencies? [01:37] Gru aus Fulda [01:37] oh, ein hesse [01:37] I don't want to be rude, but learn about packaging instead of changing some random stuff on people advice [01:37] ok [01:38] so where can I learn? [01:38] thierry: try the build [01:38] thierry: try building in a pbuilder (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto) [01:38] no no no [01:38] no point to build packages when you don't know what you do [01:39] gdesklets use a debian/control.in, you need to update this one [01:39] not debian/control === tseng remembers that :) [01:39] the Build-Depends need to reflect what you need to build [01:39] the Depends what you need to run [01:39] k [01:39] what depends is new ? [01:39] but where can I learn? [01:40] Well, gnome-python and pyorbit [01:40] these depends are not new [01:40] For debian there are howtos, for ubuntu I don't know. [01:40] well they are not in the configure.in of 0.33.1 [01:40] the 0.33.1 configure is broken [01:40] look on debian/control [01:40] Vollstrecker, the package format is the same....we just use a special versioning scheme for ubuntu changes [01:41] python-gnome2 is in the depends [01:41] ok [01:41] http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ [01:41] http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ [01:41] about the packaging [01:41] Vollstrecker, so all the debian docs apply [01:41] and python-gnome2 depends on python-pyorbit === dholbach [~daniel@td9091b90.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] k [01:43] gotta go, thanks guys, I'll learn and come back one day [01:44] bye thierry [01:47] what is your requirement usually guys ? [01:47] people are supposed to know how the packaging work, or you just upload random stuff as far as the update works ? [01:47] requirement? [01:48] like thierry who wants to update gdesklets [01:48] seb128: i hope you can imagine the answer [01:48] seb128, we cross check the packages, until we think the work is sufficient [01:48] I've explained to him how to update the changelog a week ago [01:48] and to update the debian/control [01:48] seb128: if we don't feel confident in people they don't become MOTUs [01:48] yay, got an old imac, might be able to build powerpc stuff now [01:48] but he doesn't even know what the package install, how the control field work, etc [01:49] seb128: we keep giving their stuff back until we are happy with it [01:49] k [01:49] if they arent getting a clue after awhile [01:49] im not sure what to tell them [01:49] because updating gdesklets once is easy, that's basically a changelog update [01:49] people here so far either get it, or are total tools (HG) [01:50] but if there is one change he's screwed because he basically doesn't know anything out of the changelog update and will not notice any issue [01:50] k :) === dholbach looks at xfstt === farruinn [~nate@cpe-69-201-13-7.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:56] dholbach, morgue morgue morgue [01:57] ogra: go ahead :-) === dholbach uploads the fix anyway ;-) [01:58] heh [01:58] elmo didnt morgu-ify the others i told him to [01:58] i think morguifying will be breezy business [01:59] hmm === ogra thinks this could become a malone stress test for unmorguified software [02:00] ogra: that's what i like about you: you always think positive :-) [02:01] hehe === ajmitch gets to fixing up qemu [02:11] crimsun: will you get xfprint4 synced too? [02:11] crimsun: because there's a build issue and i fixed it, before realizing it was xfce - shall i upload it nevertheless? [02:11] dholbach: yes, and yes [02:11] ok [02:11] rock [02:11] thanks :) [02:12] de rien :-) [02:28] crimsun: I got archive.h included. I've done that by hand while interupting the build process with the read instruction. Tommorrow morning I'll modifie the rules, to include it automatically. [02:29] Vollstrecker: In the 'install-gtk-dev' target? [02:30] if so, I'll just use a manual install invocation [02:30] In that lines I gave you. install-gtk-shared-stamp: [02:30] uh I pasted the wrong target [02:31] yeah === dholbach takes kterm [02:31] hmmmmm, fresh krack :-) [02:31] Vollstrecker: ok, I'll make that adjustment and test locally. Thanks for your troubleshooting. [02:31] Now I have to look, in which dir it is, when this line is reached, then I can copy it automatically. [02:32] Maybe you wait, tommorrow morning it will be in debian bts, so you can use your time for some other pkg'd [02:32] pkg's [02:32] right, but we might not be able to sync from Sid [02:33] I can send you the modified lines per mail. [02:33] if we can, then great; if not, at least wxwidgets2.5_2.5.3.2ubuntu4 will have archive.h [02:33] schweeb: kicked [02:33] Vollstrecker: ok, great [02:34] Just give me your adress [02:34] Vollstrecker: crimsun at fungus dot sh dot nu [02:35] k, you'll get it when it's finished. [02:36] gnucash fixed [02:40] kterm fixed === Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S01060020ed20f68f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] dholbach: good work :) [02:48] nfs is giving me issues, otherwise I would have qemu fixed by now.. :) [02:49] lamont: cool, that kick did it :) [02:49] ok, building locally. [02:58] i look at wing now [03:06] wing uploaded [03:06] dholbach: man, you're on a tear === thomaskorwed [~vb@rule-dk2.smca.yahoo.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thomaskorwed [~vb@rule-dk2.smca.yahoo.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:08] the list now looks quite ok [03:09] i went through the top 25% and most of packages are in state waiting-for-powerpc/ia64-to-start-building-instead-of-smoking-crack [03:09] hey, youre lagging dholbach ... [03:09] i look at wing now [03:09] wing uploaded [03:09] that were 7mins [03:09] haha :_) [03:09] ;) [03:10] ok... if the release gets delayed we may even tackle 25%-50% === dholbach has a look [03:10] ;-) [03:10] heh [03:12] is there talk of delay? [03:13] yes -> #u-d, jdub and mdz had a conversation, due to gnome-2.10.1 release date === schweeb reads his scrollback [03:16] ahh === ajmitch_ wonders if the pam 0.78 packages got tested at all [03:18] (u-hardened stuff) === dholbach looks at powermanga === tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:25] hey tiil [03:25] hey tritium [03:25] Hi dholbach [03:26] I have an email from Jorge Bernal [03:26] It takes me to the MOTU page [03:27] hm? what abouit? [03:27] I'm trying to figure out what it is. I just figured it out. It's because I subscribed to that wiki page ;) [03:27] heh [03:27] ah alright :-) [03:28] Hackers is on TV, so it has dumbed me down. [03:29] indeed it will do that [03:29] powermanga done [03:29] I watched it on DVD the other day, and drooled on myself for the rest of the day ;) [03:30] schweeb, do you find that summation equations float around the air when you write code? ;) === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.77.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] I don't generally write code :) === dholbach looks at dict-bouvier [03:31] Silly movie [03:33] We could take our motto from the movie, with a slight modification: "Hackers of the universe, unite!" ;) === dholbach looks at liquidwar too [03:37] that movie was REALLY silly ;-) [03:37] although it's been a whilew [03:37] no kidding [03:39] dict-bouvier done [03:40] dholbach, you're rocking tonight [03:41] qemu builds === ajmitch_ will upload in a bit [03:41] tritium: it's how i feel, when i don't have to take care of LISTS :-) [03:41] :) [03:47] liquidwar fixed, looking at ion2 === ajmitch_ uploads qemu, the package even works :) [03:50] woohoo [03:54] ion2 done === zezere [~psmmr@a81-84-89-22.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] someone aware of #8324 and #8327? [03:55] hello there! [03:55] hey zezere [03:55] where shall i report a broken package? [03:56] dholbach: [03:56] just tell us [03:56] :D [03:56] cool [03:56] xmule? fwbuilder? [03:56] ok [03:56] xmule [03:56] ;-) [03:56] ah! [03:56] :D === dholbach read ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com [03:57] zezere: i'll put it on wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo [03:57] ok [03:57] thank u [03:57] zezere: but unless debian has a more recent version or someone packages a new upstream version i see very little change this late in the release cycle [03:58] s/change/chance [03:58] :D [03:58] isn't there any bugzilla for the universe packages? [03:58] zezere: it's in the work [03:59] http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone [03:59] ah! [03:59] but we're experiencing problems with the backend [03:59] but we all hope it's ready soon [03:59] zezere: if it breaks, tell us [03:59] or file a bug for the malone component [04:01] :D [04:01] thank u [04:01] de rien [04:01] well... bai bai! [04:01] bye [04:01] where are metallikops mono [04:01] i'll be back when i discover some more bugs... [04:02] good one [04:05] hm..... [04:05] how do i register in malone [04:05] ? [04:05] there's no such thing as a "register" link [04:06] you have an account on the main website? like for the wiki? [04:06] tseng: he started a new job today [04:06] so he's probably not around [04:06] eh? [04:06] metallikop [04:06] oh [04:06] yes [04:06] <--- lives by kop [04:07] oh [04:07] in meecheegan? [04:07] did he make 1.0.6 packages or 1.1.5? last I heard, he made 1.1.5 [04:07] tritium: ja [04:07] 1.1.5 i guess [04:07] ;) [04:07] its not on his main page [04:08] I'm not sure he's put them up anywhere [04:08] when/where did he mention them? [04:09] beats me [04:09] someone else mentioned it [04:09] ah === dholbach looks at xautolock and glunarclock [04:15] dholbach, did you and herve get the packages from main removed from the list? [04:16] xautolock done [04:16]