nestormhas anybody heard about working on an ubuntu server version?12:04
techlord-worki've seen a discussion on on the forums about, whether it would make a good server or not but that was it12:05
nestormat the official site?12:06
LeeJunFana server is only as good as it's weakest application that you need. So if all ubuntus apps work for what you need, then yeah. It's great. I plan on replacing 3 servers with it soon.12:07
LeeJunFanPeople said mandrake wasn't a good server distro, I told them not to say that within earshot of all the machines I had which had Mandrake and 1yr+ uptimes. Several of them.12:07
LeeJunFanIt's the admin - not the distro :)12:08
nestormI "was" a mandrake user for long12:08
nestormI am talking about amateur admins ;)12:08
nestormlike me12:08
nestormanyway, I prefer to add to a server12:09
nestormand with a mandrake server you have to strip the system12:09
nestormcause it has too many stuff, useless for servers12:09
LeeJunFanMe too - I used mandrake for about 6yrs.12:10
LeeJunFanAnd redsplat 2 or so years prior to that.12:10
nestormI want to learn server administration with ubuntu12:11
nestormvirtual domains and so on12:11
nestormI am starting with xampp12:12
nestormcause this way I don't mess with system files12:12
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nestormkubuntu is very fast12:12
nestormlooks like my pc has rebirth12:13
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robodexhey... does anyone else have the problem where text is REALLY small in KDE?12:25
robodexas in, I can barely read half the text... changing fonts in the font settings has had no effect12:28
apokryphosrobodex: nope. You might wanna check your fonts (in kcontrol) and your resolution.12:28
apokryphoshmm, did you select to change *all* fonts?12:28
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robodexafaik yes... only certain programs have small text, though; all the KDE programs are fine. But so far xchat, firefox and xterm all have REALLY small text12:29
dpeachCan I install any Debian app on Kubuntu? Or does it have to be compiled for Kubuntu?12:29
apokryphosohhh, gtk stuff12:29
robodexI was able to up the text in xchat manually, but it's not really helping12:29
robodexheh yeah, any way to fix that?12:29
apokryphosrobodex: yup, get the gtk2-engines-gtk-qt package12:29
robodexk, I'll try that (shouldn't it have installed with kubuntu-desktop, though? :S)12:30
apokryphosNah, that's for gtk stuff. Kubuntu is concerned with gtk. :)12:30
robodexheh true enough, I'm just trying KDE out... it's pretty good in ubuntu, I've only found a few minor issues so far :D12:31
robodexk when it's installed do I just restart x?12:31
ikamaHi, everybody12:33
apokryphosrobodex: Nope, just restart the gtk stuff12:33
robodexhmm... I restarted xterm and it had no effect12:33
apokryphosxterm isn't gtk, as far as I know12:34
ikamadoes any body have the same problem with dependecies openoffice and kubuntu-desktop packages12:34
robodexwell ff is having the problems still too12:34
apokryphosff does have gtk stuff. Perhaps try logging back in...12:34
robodexyeah, I'll try that in a minute12:35
ikamathey are installing or updating but the postconfiguration is corrupt12:35
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dpeachwill any debian package work for kubuntu? Or does it have to be Ubuntu/Kubuntu specific?12:40
robodexmost debian packages SHOULD work12:40
dpeachIf they don't is it pretty easy to make a deb from source?12:41
dpeach(I am coming from a RPM based world, and know little to nothing about debs)12:41
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moominskican any1 help me how to install rpms12:43
rinnanhello, kubuntu noobee here.  Question for whoever deems me fit enough to answer:  I booted the KDE Live CD and liked it so much I installed it, overwriting RedHat.  It's fine, but in the life CD, it uses Kubuntu icons, themes, colors, etc.  But in mine, it uses only exactly standard KDE!  What did I do wrong?  How can I fix it?12:43
rinnanmoominski:  Maybe, "apt-get install rpm"?  It's a guess, but probably a good one!12:44
moominskithat easy?12:44
moominskishould i sudo12:44
rinnanThat installs the RPM system (I think) -- try it and tell me what it says.12:44
rinnan"sudo apt-get install rpm"12:44
Riddellrinnan: did you use an existing /home /12:44
Riddellrinnan: did you use an existing /home ?12:44
rinnanI'll try it on mine.12:44
rinnanRiddell:  No, only the standard install.  Which is why I find it odd.12:45
Riddellrinnan: preview release?12:45
randabisrinnan, try apt-get install kubuntu-defaults (I think that's the package)12:46
rinnanYes.  It is simply too buggy?12:46
robodexrestarting x, brb12:46
moominskihow do i do a standard install12:46
rinnanrandabis:  Trying now.12:46
randabisrinnan, kubuntu-default-settings12:46
randabisthat's the package12:46
rinnanits' already there.   Purging and reinstalling...12:46
rinnan(had to also reinstall kubuntu-desktop, doing so...)12:48
rinnanOkay guys wish me luck, rebooting into my (hopefully new and pretty) kde12:48
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robodexheh, I still have that problem :\12:50
robodexanything else that could be causing it?12:53
ikamadoes any body have the same problem with dependecies openoffice and kubuntu-desktop packages12:55
ikamathey are installing or updating but the postconfiguration is corrupt12:55
ikamanobody has the same problem?12:55
ikamaI dont' t think so!12:55
ikamathis prob has occured since 2 or three updates before12:56
techlord-workhave you tried removing the .kde file in your home dir12:57
robodexAnyone know what could fix the small text problem? (or, hell, what's causing it?)12:57
cmfis it just me, or is it not possible to set a capture channel in alsamixer on hoary?12:57
ikamatechlord-work: concerning to me12:58
techlord-workyea ikama have your tried removing the .kde folder, this would cause all your kde settings to reset, maybe including the fonts12:59
robodexit only does it on certain apps, though...01:00
robodexheh downing my res to 1024 (from 1152) actually makes it seem worse..01:02
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bhsxi followed the guide at http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories, but when i apt-get update i get "GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release: The following signatures blah blah blah"...  what does that mean/how do i fix it other than removing those lines from sources.list?  01:06
bhsxis there i suggested mirror list that kubuntu uses?01:08
bhsxs i/a01:08
moominskihow do i get alien01:09
bhsxjoin x-files  ;)01:10
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bhsxsudo apt-get install alien01:11
verden01Hi i just installed kubuntu on my AMD64 box and it rocks01:11
verden01does anyone know when the final version of kubuntu will be released?01:12
moominskinot long01:12
techlord-workmy guess a few days after apr 8th01:12
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techlord-workthat's when ubuntu is getting released01:12
robodexhmmm I think I MAY know what's causing the problem...01:12
verden01is it worth doing an update and upgrade b4 then01:13
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techlord-worki would, because what you upgrade now will just be less you have to get then01:14
verden01cool thanx01:15
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gsuvegcan i remove text form left iconbox(?) in kontact ?01:31
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robodexhey, still haven't fixed the problem (posted a topic on the forums,) but I have another really stupid question... how do I change the window style in kubuntu? >_<01:32
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techlord-workcontrol center themes and appereance01:33
robodexwhere in there?01:33
moominskii still can inatll rpms on kubuntu is there a website with a howto??01:33
robodexstyle only changes widgets...01:34
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techlord-worki'm going from memory here not near my kubuntu box, but on the menu there is control center or control panel, in there you you have themes01:35
techlord-worki think that is what your looking for01:35
robodexheh I have theme manager but it doesn't change my windows (stays as plastik)01:36
gsuvegrobodex: sorry.01:36
gsuvegrobodex: if you start kontact left side the apps01:36
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gsuvegrobodex: maybe you misunderstud me, sorry01:42
techlord-worki wonder robodex what happens if you delete the .kde folder in your home dir and restart, that should clean any broken or corrupt kde files and may resolve both issues01:42
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techlord-worktime to go home catch you all when i'm there01:52
robodexk, I'll try that01:52
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Le0hiya ppl02:07
moominskiwot does this mean E: Couldn't find package02:08
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haydenmeans apt-get couldnt find the package u tried to install02:11
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robodexI got the problem fixed, but it was a really stupid fix and it's a pain to do it every time I load KDE...02:13
robodexI had to load gnome-font-properties02:14
robodexI don't know if that starts something, but the fonts are fixed (until I restart kde)02:15
Riddelltesters wanted for release candidate CDs http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/daily-live/current/02:15
moominskikpakage wont let me install rpm even though im putting in the right password02:17
moominskiany help02:17
apokryphosmoominski: root password needed.02:17
moominskiyeah i typed it but it sais its wrong but its not02:17
moominskiits right02:17
apokryphosmoominski: are you sure you're typing the *root* password; not your one, with root priveledges. 02:18
moominskiwot other password is there02:18
apokryphosmoominski: in terminal type plain "su" and enter the password there you're trying to use in Kpackage.02:18
apokryphosmoominski: aha ;)02:19
moominskii didnt create 102:19
apokryphosmoominski: sudo passwd02:19
apokryphosthen make a password02:19
apokryphosmoominski: it shouldn't ask you for your root -- ubuntu uses sudo, but that package hasn't been patched02:20
moominskirpm: To install rpm packages on Debian systems, use alien. See README.Debian.02:22
moominskierror: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)02:22
moominskierror: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm02:22
Riddellit needs the user password, not root, any suggestions on how to translate a new string into different languages happily accepted02:22
apokryphos Riddell no, Riddell, it really does need root02:23
haydensudo alien file02:23
haydendpkg -i file ?02:23
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Riddellapokryphos: hwat does|?02:23
Riddellhmm, bad keyboard02:23
apokryphosmoominski: what error is that from? What are you trying to do?02:24
moominskiok i got this after "sudo alien" kerastik_0.2-2_i386.deb generated02:24
moominskiinstall a kde theme02:25
apokryphosmoominski: cool, now just follow haggai's second instruction. 02:25
haydensudo dpkg -i kerastik_0.2-2_i386.deb02:26
apokryphosIt might not work, though, because some of those will have a different location of KDEDIR. At least, that's what I presume the problem is, since I had problems installing some kde-theme rpms like that02:26
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moominskisudo dpkg -i kerastik_0.2-2_i386.deb this worked02:27
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StRhi there02:50
StRI installed hoary, but I don't get the graphic loading like the live CD... what package to I need to install?02:50
haydenthe splash screen?02:57
StRhayden, the scroll that shows when ubuntu is loading,  not like other distros when you see the txt about mounting,  hotplugins, etc...02:58
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haydeni dont think there is a package u can just install to do that03:00
StRhayden, but you have that screen, right? not the txt screen03:01
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James_k84how do I get sshd to work in kubuntu?03:09
RiddellJames_k84: sudo apt-get install ssh03:11
StRisn't it   openssh-server?03:11
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mwyldeHow can gnome be installed on a Kubuntu system?03:12
amuapt-get install ubuntu-desktop03:12
apokryphoskubuntu-desktop :)03:14
James_k84I already have it...  03:15
apokryphosJames_k84: then you have gnome :)03:16
James_k84but how to I get it to run?03:16
James_k84I tried /etc/init.d/sshd start.03:16
RiddellJames_k84: what did it say?03:17
James_k84any ideas?03:18
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RiddellJames_k84: what did /etc/init.d/sshd start  say, what does  ps -ef | grep sshd say?03:18
James_k84james@Osiris:/etc/init.d$ ps -ef | grep ss03:19
James_k84james     7976  7021  0 15:24 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/x-session-manager03:19
James_k84james     8023  7976  0 15:24 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager03:19
James_k84james     8026     1  0 15:24 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager03:19
James_k84james     8029     1  0 15:24 ?        00:00:00 dbus-daemon-1 --fork --print-pid 8 --print-address 6 --session03:19
James_k84james     8113  8053  0 15:24 ?        00:00:11 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f03:19
James_k84james     8115     1  0 15:24 ?        00:00:00 kaccess [kdeinit]  kaccess03:19
James_k84james     8119  8053  0 15:24 ?        00:00:03 kwin [kdeinit]  kwin -session 10b8e66972000111191053800000199780000_1112127726_80034603:19
James_k84james     8140     1  0 15:25 ?        00:00:00 kmix [kdeinit]  kmix -session 10d8cecf96000111065458100000063760027_1112127726_79023503:19
James_k84root      8449     1  0 19:53 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -l 3 -f03:19
James_k84root      8698     1  0 19:54 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd03:19
James_k84james     8970  8392  0 20:18 pts/1    00:00:00 grep ss03:19
RiddellJames_k84: that'll be it running there then03:20
Riddellhello verden01 03:20
James_k84then why can't I ssh into my box?03:20
James_k84from a local network?03:20
verden01hi Riddell 03:21
RiddellJames_k84: can you access any other service?  can you ping it?  what does ssh say when you try to connect?  what if you do  ssh localhost  from the machine03:21
James_k84the ip I'm trying to ssh into isn't the DMZ or anything...03:21
James_k84I can ssh locally.03:22
verden01installed kubuntu last night and it had no problems with any hardware on my AMD64 box  :-)03:22
Riddellverden01: excellent.  did the sound work?03:22
RiddellJames_k84: sounds like a firewall issue then03:23
James_k84hmm...  weird.03:23
verden01yeah everything worked 03:23
James_k84thanks a lot03:23
Riddellverden01: good, if confusing (other people have reported sound server problems on amd64)03:24
verden01since i've had the AMD64 box i've found that a lot of distro's don't support all my hardware but kubuntu does  :)03:25
moominskikubunto is great ive other distros but im stckin with this its the only ive been able to do something03:26
verden01if this is mainly a beta release then it must be close to final release because its pretty stable03:26
Riddellverden01: release candidate in testing now03:27
verden01cool   is it worth updating and upgrading now or best to wait for the final trelease?03:27
moominskikonqueror is a bit dodgy wiv me dont no wy keeps crasking03:28
Riddellmoominski: do you have file previews on?03:28
moominskidont no03:28
verden01the only thing i found different is the fact that i can't log in as root but i'm getting used to using the sudo command03:29
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verden01hayden whats it like in sunny QLD today?03:30
moominskiRiddell: how do i turn file preveiws on03:30
Riddellmoominski: third menu from left -> previews -> tick them all03:31
Riddellsome people have reported crashes on that but it's working fine for me now03:31
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moominskiRiddell: thanks03:33
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moominskiany1 no how i can rip internetradiostream??03:35
Riddellmoominski: kaffeine03:35
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moominskiRiddell: kaffeine dont work for it just stops responding03:38
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moominskiany ideas?03:38
randabismoominski, streamripper works well03:47
randabisit's a commandline tool though03:47
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randabisstreamtuner is a gui tool for internet streams and it will do ripping too03:48
randabisyou may want to check it out...it's in the repositories03:48
billytwowillyanyone know when pykde will be updated in the repositories?03:49
billytwowillynot having pykde is killing karamba..03:50
moominskihow do i get in the repositories03:50
verden01 is it worth updating and upgrading kubuntu now or best to wait for the final release?03:50
billytwowillypretty nice now, but no harm in waiting.03:50
randabisdefinitely worth it :) kde 3.4 rocks my socks :p03:51
billytwowillyif you're trying to use kde in warty definitely upgrade.03:51
verden01hey i think its great to be using a quality Debian based os again03:52
haggaiverden01: were frozen now except for bugfixes so now is a good time03:52
verden01i've installed kubuntu 03:53
verden01billytwowilly, 03:53
verden01it rocks03:53
moominskican any1 help get kaffeine workin03:54
billytwowillyif you've installed kubuntu you should update... It's beta stuff you have installed anyway.03:54
billytwowillyhaggai: Is anyone going to update the pykde debs before the release? That's a semi important package for anyone using superkaramba and a bunch of other stuff (ie several amarok scripts use it)03:54
verden01i'm thinking of upgrading but i need to d/l another 200 odd mb of data03:55
haggaibillytwowilly: I don't know if anyone will have time03:55
billytwowillyhaggai: That's too bad... it's a moderately important part of kde.03:56
randabisI wonder if there are any plans to have a kubuntu unstable branch within the grumpy unstable branch when it is released...04:02
difektaWHY DON't channels like this start migrating to jabber servers?04:02
randabisbecause IRC is tried and true probably04:03
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verden01i see there are no games installed with kubuntu, are there going to be in the future or is it best to D/L then from the universe packages?04:14
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apokryphosverden01: I believe kdegames is in Main, isn't it?04:14
verden01i'll check but i was wondering why they weren't installed by default04:15
Riddellverden01: not enough room on the CD04:16
verden01k :)04:16
verden01apokryphos, they are in the main repository04:17
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verden01downloading them now on my super fast dialup connection  :(04:19
XiraI downloaded kubuntu-desktop in 4 minutes04:21
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verden01Xira, hmmm i might do that one day when i can access fast internet04:25
Xirai feel your pain, I was on dialup for 6 years04:25
Xirathen i got dsl last year, and this year i got 4mbit cable which recently was upgraded to 6mbit for free04:26
billytwowillyisn't kubuntu-desktop just a tiny dummy package?04:26
Xirabillytwowilly, it's kubuntu-desktop for ubuntu04:26
Xirait's 395mb04:26
billytwowillyno. it's 32.8 KB.04:29
XiraI just installed it an hour ago04:29
billytwowillyI'm looking at kubuntu-desktop right now in synaptic.04:29
billytwowillyIt's a meta package.04:29
moominskiok any1 no how i install stream ripper04:29
billytwowillyIt depends on a whole bunch of stuff.04:29
verden01well in rural Australia the its hard to get a decent broadband connection04:29
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Xiraok, well I just did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:30
billytwowillymoominski: apt-get install streamripper04:30
Xiraand it was 395mb04:30
moominskiit dont work04:30
Xirawould you like me to upload the logs?04:30
billytwowillymoominski: Then you don't have your repositories set up right. Go to the wiki and read up on how to setup universe, metaverse, restricted, etc.04:30
evan_dxira, all the packages that it installs probably total up to 395MB, but the kubuntu-desktop meta-package itself is only a few K04:30
Xiraoh, well04:30
Xirahe's getting rather specific04:30
billytwowillyXira: I don't doubt that all the dependencies were large. I'm just nit picking;)04:31
moominskistreamripper is already the newest version.04:31
moominski0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 117 not upgraded.04:31
Xirait's well documented to ubuntu users to do a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to install all of the kubuntu compnents04:31
billytwowillythen its installed.04:31
moominskiok how do i use it04:31
moominskiwhere is it04:31
Xirait's perfect except the gnome menu entries dont show the icons for the KDE items04:31
billytwowillyIt's a command line tool.04:31
billytwowillyYou want streamtuner.04:31
billytwowillya nice gtk frontend with streams pre-programmed04:32
billytwowillyapt-get install streamtuner.04:32
billytwowillyminus the .04:32
verden01moominski, if you go to the kubuntu.org site i think it tells you how to log into gnome or kde 04:33
verden01i think its in FAQ or something similiar04:34
moominskii know how to do that04:34
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randabisI like streamripper :) streamtuner is good too though and will playback and rip streams04:38
moominskiwot do i get source distro04:39
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randabissource distro? what do you mean?04:41
randabis*gentoo gears start clicking*04:42
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Zugotdoes the kubuntu k3b burn mp3s?04:44
RiddellZugot: I believe not04:46
apokryphosZugot: there's some stuff you can do though, to get it running.04:46
randabiswhen you say burn mp3s, do you mean making an mp3 audio disk or what? I can make mp3 data discs just fine without any tricks04:48
randabisIf you mean make audio cds from mp3s like nero does, then you need to do a few things I believe. There's a howto guide on the ubuntu forums04:49
Zugotrandabis, you know what i mean..04:49
randabisuh, no I don't...that's why I asked04:49
moominskiok how do i save streams with kafeine05:00
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dcmI have a problem with the Ubuntu live CD05:01
dcmI put it in my drive and restart but it doesn't work05:01
dcmI don't remember the exact reason, but I think it was something with the file system05:02
randabisthis is #kubuntu, direct ubuntu questions to #ubuntu05:03
randabiswe deal with kde mainly here05:03
randabisyour problem could be a variety of things...a bad burn, incorrect BIOS settings, etc05:04
dcmI would, but I am banned05:05
dcmI'm using the ubuntu cd from the ship-it thing05:05
randabischeck your bios, and make sure the first boot device is set to cdrom05:08
dcmIt is05:08
dcmWell, Floppy -> CD -> HD05:09
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TechLordhi all05:09
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randabisyou'll need to provide the error it gives then before I can provide any further troubleshooting05:09
TechLordquestion for you, how can i get a trashcan on my desktop05:09
billytwowillyTechLord: there is a trash applet you can add.05:12
TechLordto the desktop?05:12
randabisTechLord, navigate to you Desktop/ directory, locate the trash.desktop file, open it with a text editor and change Hidden=true to Hidden=false05:12
billytwowillyTechLord: to kicker.05:12
randabisthen save the file05:12
randabisI think you may have to log out and log back in for it to take effect05:12
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TechLordwell i got an icon now but it looks all strange and not like a trashcan05:14
randabisyou should be able to change the icon 05:15
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TechLordwhat i was seeing was a backup file and logoff and on to see real icon05:19
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omni_lonnieanyone here tried netzero with kubuntu?05:42
Roeyhey kong-plugins got in!! yeay!!05:42
RoeyKonqueror's Tools->/ menu is now mine!05:42
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verden01what is the Enterprise Edition?05:53
verden01Kubuntu will always be free of charge, and there is no extra fee for the "enterprise edition", we make our very best work available to everyone on the same Free terms.05:53
Riddellverden01: there isn't one05:54
Riddellverden01: unlike Red Hat which charges lots for the privilage of naming it Enterprise05:54
verden01oh ok05:54
verden01why is ubuntu and kubuntu free of charge?05:55
Riddellbecause we think people will prefer it to be so05:55
Riddellubuntu has a donate button on their website if you don't, and I have a paypal account too05:56
verden01well your not wrong there :)05:56
verden01the main distro's i have used i have always paid for05:56
dcmWhy would you pay for it?05:57
verden01because at the end of the day nothing is free05:57
LeeJunFananyone know when kde 3.4.1 is due?05:57
verden01it must cost someone something05:57
RiddellLeeJunFan: no time frame yet05:58
Riddellverden01: nobody expects kde, gnu or linux to change for their work05:59
verden01if you guys did charge then i don't think anyone could complain06:01
randabisI believe canonical only plans to charge for official support at the enterprise and production levels06:02
randabisthe distro itself will remain free06:02
Riddellrandabis: enterprise and production level?06:04
randabisprobably worded that wrong, but what I mean is people who are using ubuntu for places like schools06:05
randabisor large offices, etc.06:05
randabispeople that would need support06:05
Riddellthey charge for support, (by e-mail, phone etc)06:07
verden01this subject is explained very well on the ubuntulinux.org site 06:08
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TechLordis anyone here06:33
TechLordwhat is the best way to backup a dvd on kde?06:38
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LeeJunFanTechLord: by back up are you talking about a data DVD or an encrypted copyrighted video DVD?06:52
LeeJunFanTechLord: cuz, AFAIK there is nothing like DVD shrink for linux, if that's what you want.06:53
TechLordi'm talking about protecting my kid dvds from my kids06:55
TechLordyea dvdshrink for linux would be great 06:55
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LeeJunFanTechLord: hehe, I think I've gone thru about 3 copies of fox and hound with my kid :)06:57
underlordcan i disable that ugly graphical login (or replace it with a less ugly graphical login) without it reverting next time i upgrade my system?06:57
LeeJunFanunderlord: if you want the default kdm look you can edit /etc/kde3/kdmrc and comment out the Theme= line06:58
LeeJunFanunderlord: then it'll ask you when you do updates if you want to replace that config file or leave it as you have it.06:58
underlordooh, ok06:59
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LeeJunFanunderlord: I understand there is a GUI tool that will eventually be in KDE for kdm theming, but as of yet it's not stable/complete enough.06:59
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underlordan editor or just selection thingy for kcontrol?07:00
LeeJunFanunderlord: I dunno - probably a selection thingy.07:00
ice_1963can i install synaptic in kubuntu ?? =)07:01
LeeJunFanice_1963: sure can.07:01
underlordice_1963: yes07:01
ice_1963apt-get install synaptic07:02
underlordice_1963: open konsole, type sudo apt-get install synaptic07:02
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LeeJunFanice_1963: for the record you can install any ubuntu app on kubuntu. They are both really the same distro with a different default desktop install at startup.07:04
ice_1963i'm useing gnome right now but like kde desktop better07:06
LeeJunFanice_1963: you can install kde in ubuntu by doing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:07
LeeJunFanthen of course you would have both on your system.07:07
ice_1963ok but i will still will have gnome07:08
underlordand you can select which to use at login time07:08
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underlordyou can uninstall gnome if you like, but theres no reason you have to07:08
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XiraResolving DNSes are slow, ergo slowing down my ubuntu connection... I remember fixing it in other distros by disabling ipv6 somthing.. anyone know what I'm talking about, and feel like telling me how to do it?07:36
da_bon_bonXira: read ubuntuguide.org07:37
Xirada_bon_bon, that works for firefox, but it seems to be a system-wide issue07:49
billytwowillyHi, is there any way to bind shortcut keys to volume control??08:16
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ice_1963how do i install synaptic uninstall knaptic09:57
ice_1963in kde09:58
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Kleggashmm, thought only I saw my own name next to my nick. any way of changing this?11:40
Kleggasbtw, reason why Im here. anyone else having konqueror crash all the time? had it since I installed kubuntu and still have it after all these almost daily dist-upgrades that seems to be out more than ones per day. its only when I open the filemanager that it crashis often. for webbrowsing konqueror works11:42
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Kleggasfriend of mine got rid of that problem (he says) after the first dist-upgrade but I still have it even though I wiped out my ~./kde to get rid of all previous settings of konqueror11:45
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closureyay! i succeeded!11:47
closurenow how do i get gnome off of here?11:47
Kleggasclosure: congrats, to whatever you succeeded with :)11:47
closureKDE install lol11:48
closuretheese things are big deals with me as i am new this whole linux thing11:48
closurewell X11:48
Beinericlosure: debfoster11:48
closurei've used console plenty of times but never intensively11:48
closureBeineri,  debfoster?11:48
closurewhat is that11:48
Beinericlosure: a script/app to remove packages you don't want to hold11:49
closurewhat do i tell it i want it to remove?11:49
closureare there other things i should as well?11:49
Beineriyou tell it what to keep (ubuntu-base, kubuntu-desktop, ...)11:49
closureso since i haven't installed anything new11:50
Kleggaswhy didn't I knew bout those kind of scripts when I whiped out entire gnome in warty a few months ago? used kpackage and removed one package at the time when I found them in the list :p11:50
closurei would only want ubuntu base and kubuntu desktop correct?11:50
Beinericlosure: well, a kernel, debfoster, grub, synaptic may be also good to keep maybe :-)11:51
closurebeineri be serious here i'm a n00b what is the easiest way for me to do this and not break this thing11:52
Beinericlosure: it will ask you before removing for every package anyway11:52
closureoh christ one of those11:52
Beineriby default at least11:52
closureno simple click "uninstall" >8-)11:52
Kleggaswho needs a kernel anyway?11:52
closureyeah really they're over rated11:52
closurealways having to get updates and new ones11:53
BeineriKleggas: uptime bragger? :-)11:53
Kleggashmmm, nah, I just rebooted so my uptime aint that great :p11:53
Kleggasso, is it a known thing that konqueror crashes alot when opening up the filemanager mode, or is it just me? would be nice to know if its nothing to worry or if I did something crazy :)11:54
KleggasI mean, I know its beta, but still would be nice to know how other has it :)11:54
closurebeineri where do i find this debfoster?11:55
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closureor do i run it from terminal?11:55
Beinericlosure: universe repository11:55
Beinericlosure: yes11:55
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BeineriKleggas: works here12:00
BeineriKleggas: paste the backtrace into a bin...12:01
BeineriKleggas: and talk to your irc client when you don't want your realname shown12:02
closurebeineri how do i go about getting xmms/mplayer?12:02
closurewell i guess xmms12:02
closureseems mplayer comes with this12:02
Beinericlosure: pardon?12:02
closurethe media player XMMS12:02
closurehow do i go about installing that12:02
closuredo i do "apt-get install xmms"12:02
Beineriuse apt-get, ksynaptic, synaptic?12:03
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Beinericlosure: yes, you didn't try?12:03
closurei did12:03
closureit didn't get it12:04
Gryphon-i just installed Kubuntu Hoary and installed the ATI 3D drivers, the drivers appear to be working, but my OpenGL device is being listed as MESA indirect - is there a way to fix this as games arent loading atm..12:04
closurewill apt-get put it on my K Menu?12:04
Kleggasclosure: don't think so12:04
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closurewill Kynaptic?12:04
Kleggasclosure: tried amarok? made me throw away xmms for eternity :)12:04
Gryphon-apt-get install xmms will put it on the the k menu12:05
Gryphon-did it for me12:05
Beinericlosure: "apt-get install xmms" works here12:05
closurehrm maybe it's since i changed to the universe repositories it does12:05
KleggasBeineri: what pastebin? where?12:06
closurebeineri is there a gui based "add/remove" programs type deal?12:06
BeineriKleggas: like http://rafb.net/paste/12:06
Beinericlosure: kynaptic, synaptic - look into the System/ menu ;-)12:07
ztonzyamu, here ?12:07
closurecan i use those to remove GNOME?12:07
Kleggasthere: http://rafb.net/paste/results/K9jy6C92.html12:08
Kleggaseven I knew how, hihi12:08
Beinericlosure: sure, if you love to find all GNOME low-level dependencies :-)12:08
ztonzyif I want to burn Kubuntu Live CD...what date-version is the best ?12:08
Beineriztonzy: current/12:09
closurebeineri you're speaking french12:09
closurewhat exactly is that?12:09
ztonzyBeineri, ah thanks12:09
Beinericlosure: Je ne parle pas Francais :-)12:10
BeineriKleggas: tried to (re)move konquerorrc? are you starting it from a special directory? did you try to starting it from shell?12:12
KleggasBeineri: I removed entire ~.kde/12:12
Kleggasstill same, no, didn't try to start from shell12:13
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Kleggasok, out of 20 times 20 worked, none crashed. so I will quit using my service-menu to open filemanager :p12:15
Kleggasment system-menu12:15
BeineriKleggas: the second entry on Kubuntu panel?12:16
BeineriKleggas: I wonder a bit what profile you start that it loads the sidebar for you...12:16
Beineriah, the system menu does...12:17
Kleggasit automagically loads it from the system-menu...and also when i run 'kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing' from shell12:17
Kleggaserm, not webbrowsing, filemanagement :)12:17
BeineriKleggas: kfmclient openProfile filemanagement" from shell also crashs?12:17
Kleggasno, that one works great12:18
Kleggasried exactly 20 times and didn't crash ones12:18
Kleggaswhile system menu crashes every third time or such12:18
Beinerioh, not always?12:18
Kleggasno, just often12:18
Beinerieven more strange12:18
Kleggasyeah, thought so too12:19
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closurebeineri, do you know of a good news reader for KDE?12:20
Beinericlosure: knode?12:20
Kleggasclosure: akregator12:20
Beineridefine "news" :-)12:20
gryphon-how do i enable direct rending with my ati card?12:20
Beineriknode/kontact (with leafnode)12:20
Kleggasclosure: akregator is not for newsgroups12:20
closurewill that transfer files as well12:20
Kleggastry what Beineri  said12:21
closureno i want something that will allow file transfer with newsgroups along with headers12:21
closurewhat is leafnode?12:21
Beinerismall nttp server (allowing you to read newsgroups offline with KNode)12:21
Kleggasgryphon-: isn't it that line you add in the Device section saying: Option  "RenderAccel" "true"12:22
closurei have a private nntp server that's not needed12:22
closurei want to be able to download files from it12:22
gryphon-Kleggas: in xorg.conf?12:23
Beinericlosure: http://klibido.sourceforge.net/12:23
Kleggasunder the 'Device' section12:23
gryphon-Kleggas: ok, i added that line, whats best way to restart X? system reboot?12:24
Beinerigryphon-: relogin?12:24
Kleggasctrl-alt-backspace is one way12:25
BeineriKleggas: iek12:25
gryphon-Beineri: thanks12:27
closurejohnny cochiran died?12:28
Kleggasbtw, a none kde/ubuntu question. is it possible to bring forth a background process? was kinda thinkin of logging on to a server, starting an irc client with & to put it in background, and then later when I log back on, bring it forth and use it...is that possible?12:29
Kleggasclosure: see Im not the only one asking kde/ubuntu questions :p12:30
Kleggasnot asking even12:30
closureoh cohiran is kubuntu related12:30
closurehe could've gone to court over it12:31
Kleggashmm, ok12:31
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BeineriKleggas: screen12:31
BeineriKleggas: normal background processes will be killed once you logout :-)12:32
KleggasBeineri: aahh, yes. thats it, new I had used something like that before :)12:32
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gryphon-btw, RenderAccel isnt a correct setting hehe, X wouldnt even boot12:34
KleggasI have it in my xorg.conf and Im in X12:35
KleggasOption  "RenderAccel" "true"12:35
Kleggassays the line12:35
Kleggasmaybe it depends on the version of xorg12:35
KleggasI run latest dist-upgrade with the xorg that came out yesterday. but have been using that option for 1 week now12:36
Beinerimaybe his driver doesn't know this option? :-)12:39
Kleggasmight be :)12:40
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ztonzyw00t....  K3b rocks :)12:46
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ztonzylive cd that is12:47
Beineriztonzy: like k^hubuntu? :-)12:52
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ztonzyh ?12:53
ztonzyknoppix is nice ...it has java installed on its cd12:54
Beineriztonzy: try typing "k" ctrl+h "ubuntu" in a shell12:55
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ztonzyBeineri, what will happen ?12:56
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Kleggasztonzy: probably you will see the allmighty k^hubuntu :p12:57
ztonzyKleggas, I dont get a ^ 12:57
ztonzybut ctrl+h  makes the cursor do one step back12:57
Kleggasmight depend on keyboard layout12:57
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Kleggasztonzy: yeah, youre right. use swedish here too and it did the same12:58
Kleggasand java is boring. knoppix could have left that one out :p12:59
Beineriztonzy: ctrl+h being backspace is the trick :-)12:59
ztonzyKleggas, depends...some sites needs it01:00
Beineriztonzy: Knoppix is ugly and a mess, try pclinuxos :-)01:00
ztonzyBeineri, show me01:00
Kleggasztonzy: yeah, I know :(01:00
Kleggasbut still its the most boring stuff to code in :)01:01
Beineriztonzy: http://www.pclinuxonline.com/pclos/html/screen_shots.html01:01
ztonzyBeineri, nice01:02
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gryphon-if there are developers in here, it appears you left the radeon drivers out of the 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel :(01:31
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mkjpI instal mozilla-firefox i i have firefox version for gnome???02:13
usualhow do I disable animations when mini/max02:13
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mkjpgo to control center02:17
robodexhey, anyone had any success in getting baghira to work in kubuntu? I installed kwin-baghira but it only lets me change the widget style... no theme option02:19
mkjpI have problem with mount drivers ?02:22
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membreyato load a custom script for my mouse (in my home directory it's mouse.rc) do I just add the text to /etc/X11/Xsession ?03:05
techlord-worki would put that in the .kde/Autostart folder03:07
membreyatechlord-work: I've tried that and it just loads the script in Kate03:08
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techlord-worki'm not sure then, i've never had to reconfigure my mouse before03:13
membreyatechlord-work: it's to enable the side buttons on my ms explorer mouse :)03:17
techlord-workthat makes sense, i'm using a laptop and have no side buttons.03:18
techlord-workso what is in the mouse.rc?03:18
membreyajoin #flood :)03:19
membreyathere you go :)03:20
techlord-workdoes the command complete if you call it from the konsole? i know it won't change the settigs but it will tells if all the syntax is right?03:22
membreyai have to call it from the konsole every boot03:22
membreyaso I have to ./mouse.rc after kde has finished loading03:23
techlord-workso it does work then, that's good,  what if you put a shell script in .kde/Autostart that calls the mouse.rc?03:23
randabisall alone is all we are03:23
membreyabut the mouse.rc is a shell script :| and as i said, it's just loading in kate03:24
uniqmembreya: is it executeable? 03:24
uniqchmod u+x file03:25
uniqor set it executeable in konqueror.. 03:25
techlord-workif he can all from the command line it should already be executable03:26
membreyayup, already chmod'ed it03:26
uniqstill opens in kate? 03:26
techlord-worktry chaning the extension from .rc to .sh, maybe kde has a file association with .rc for kate03:26
uniqok.. make a wrapper then.. that runs 'bash /path/to/script.rc &'03:26
uniqi have one single script in Autostart.. named start.sh.. that runns all the commands i'd like to be run when kde starts.. 03:28
techlord-workon a similar issue, i'm having problems with my mapped multimeida keys  for volume control, i have my pcm audio to raise, lower and mute with X86fAudio and etc but they still controll just the normal volume any ideas?03:28
uniqI use lineakd03:29
uniqworks nicely.03:29
membreyatechlord-work: glad you can get your MM keys to work, gnome works beautifully but kde doesn't even recognise em :|03:29
membreyaand thanks, I will try naming it to .sh and putting it in autostart03:29
techlord-workXmodmap them is what i had to do03:29
techlord-workwhat is lineakd?03:29
techlord-worknever heard of it03:29
techlord-worki was fighting with that for over an hour last night, never did get the keys to control pcm thou. that lineakd should work great thanks again03:31
uniqyou still need some commands to run.. to change the volume..03:32
uniqif you have kmix running.. you can use dcop03:32
uniqdcop is great.03:32
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uniqI can put my lineak config on the web.. for you..03:32
uniqas an example.03:32
techlord-workplease do thanks03:33
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uniqof course yuou'll have to use lineakd to make a config for your keyboard.. (lineakd -l and lineakd -c keyboardtype.. ) and just use my dcop commands as examples.. 03:35
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techlord-workuniq how long have you been using ubuntu?03:44
uniqtechlord-work: not for long.. like 2 months maybe.03:44
uniqbeen using debian since arround 2000 though.. much the same.. 03:45
membreyahmm how do I fix this without rebooting? kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.03:45
techlord-workthis is my first experience with debian, been using linux for servers for years, but just now trying to switch over my laptops and desktops to linux. 03:46
uniqgood :)03:46
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membreyatechlord-work: changing the mouse.rc to a mouse.sh means it works beautifully now :D03:52
techlord-workthat's great to hear03:52
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da_bon_bonmembreya: u compile your own kernels right ?04:06
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membreyada_bon_bon: nope, I've tried ..but gave up quickly04:08
da_bon_bonmembreya: bad! was just gonna ask u a question or two04:08
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uniqda_bon_bon: shoot.. i've compiled hundreds :)04:14
membreyauniq: compile mine :P04:14
membreyaactually I'm happy with my kernel .. even if it takes 1 min to load my system from go to woah04:14
da_bon_bonuniq: great.04:14
da_bon_bonuniq: u compile alsa into it or as a module ?04:14
uniqmembreya: haha.. i've got my own to care about.. but you can ask questions too :)04:15
uniqda_bon_bon: i try to compile most drivers as modules.04:15
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malte`wil Kubuntu RC be released today??04:15
membreyanah 1 minute is an acceptable load time for me :) (amd64 3200)04:15
da_bon_bonuniq: why /?04:15
uniqda_bon_bon: i include filesystems and things like that in the kernel.. atleast most filesystems.. 04:15
apokryphosmalte`: yes04:16
malte`i wonder when...04:16
apokryphos(hopefully :P)04:16
uniqda_bon_bon: well.. I can recompile the modules without rebooting the kernel.. if i want to.. 04:16
da_bon_bonuniq: and do u compile agpgart at all ?04:17
uniqas a module.. 04:17
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alleeuniq, techlord-work: why not use lineak-kdeplugins?  Much nicer/efficient that calling dcop ;)05:22
techlord-worki've never heard of lineak till earlier and what is the lineak-kdeplugins? never heard of thoses what do they do/05:23
alleetechlord-work: plugins for lineak.  the kdeplugins 'knows' show to use kmix, amorak, ... 05:24
alleetechlord-work: lineak.conf then looks like:05:25
alleeMute = KMIX_MUTE05:25
alleeVolumeDown = KMIX_VOLDOWN05:25
alleeVolumeUp = KMIX_VOLUP05:25
techlord-workthat's cool05:26
rzeishit this is back to the stoneage now that an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade broke kde..05:28
rzeiany devs around how aknowledge this problem?05:28
techlord-workhow did it brake kde?05:29
rzeiit looks like none of my configs work after starting a new session, not even the panel loads correctly05:30
gdhrzei: This is known, yes :)05:30
gdhrzei: the joys of living on the edge, eh?05:30
rzeigdh: how did you manage to break those packages up like that :)05:30
gdhrzei: I am not a devel , just a user who reads the channel =)05:31
alleetechlord-work: and try the -xosdplugin too.  That's cute ;)05:31
techlord-workrzei this actually started a couple of updates ago, the easiest workaround i've found is to delete the kidden kde dir and reconfigure it05:32
techlord-workallee what is the the xosdplugin05:32
gdhI just added my panels manually again <shrug> :)05:32
gdhonly took a minute or so05:32
rzeigdh: is konqueror still broken, i mean after a restart?05:33
techlord-workthat is the other work around05:33
gdhrzei: It didn't break for me...05:33
rzeigdh: did you lose your $HOME/.kde/05:33
techlord-worki don't like Konqueror, i prefer firefox, love the plugins05:33
gdhI would've been fairly annoyed if I had05:33
gdhkonq still feels fragile as a browser05:34
rzeihmm i guess i too could make it work -->05:34
alleetechlord-work: lineak-xosdplugin  show a on-screen-display the of volume or 'mute' (for a sec) when you pressed the mute button etc.. nice visual feedback05:34
uniqallee: haven't looked at the kdeplugins.. i'll take a look. thanks for the tip.05:35
techlord-worki already get that 05:36
alleedid I understand it right: dist-upgrade is currently a bad idea?05:36
rzeithat was easy..05:36
rzeiallee: yes05:36
alleeis last night install CD really new?  Not only rebuild but with new content?05:37
rzeiallee: if it works, don't touch it :)05:37
alleerzei thanks!05:37
rzeinice even konqueror works again05:38
alleeI got two new Dell Server I would like to install kubuntu on.  Question burn CD now or wait too?  (only have a old hoary CDROM)05:39
gdhyou want to put a desktop OS on a server? :)05:39
gdhUse real Debian for that =)05:39
gdhsarge is safe enough to use for production machines now...05:39
alleegdh:  yeap.  Will serve dozends of X-terminals (thin clients)05:40
lonewolffalee: you may still be better with a real debian install, then you can customize it more to your requirement05:40
gdhInteresting - what are the clients? Diskless PCs or something?05:40
gdhallee: I ask because I do a PXE boot NIS/NFS-based client system here..05:41
gdhallee: Although they're not 'thin' clients as such - they run apps locally... I don't fancy the memory usage of 50 copies of firefox/thunderbird/openoffice...05:41
alleegdh.  Strip down woody with only X-server.   At the time there were no diskless PC that 1600x1200 and DVI graphics.05:42
gdhwow that's a fairly high-end setup :)05:42
gdh(adding a decent Intel NIC with built-in bootrom would make any PC boot from the network..)05:43
lonewolffallee: 1600x1200, wow , what size monitors do you use with that?05:44
alleegdh: I tought about it but rsync and substitue IP & hostname is fast and disk are not the noisy parts (especially when then spin down and never wakeup ;)05:44
alleelonewolff: 19'' now 20''05:45
lonewolffah ic05:45
lonewolffi just wondered cause i have 1400x1050 on a 14.1" lcd and thats very small lol05:45
gdhallee: No, not noisy, but generate heat... but most importantly - a major source of failure :)05:45
gdhalso diskless = guarantee of identical binary code running on each machine05:46
gdhthat's a major plus for a managed system05:46
techlord-workthat would be great05:47
alleegdh: Next time I'll check for little diskless boxes.  Now (that buildin gfx can to 1600x1200)05:47
gdhallee: definately DVI is the way to go - the VGA out on our Shuttle PCs are abysmal with analogue TFTs05:48
gdhI put an TNT2 in mine and the sharpness of the picture shot up05:48
alleelonewolff: my laptop has same res and I like to have 25% more pixels for my 10pt font!05:49
gdhHeh, the number of people running windows on a 1600x1200 TFT  in 1024 or 800x600 makes me cry05:50
gdh'the fonts are too small'05:50
techlord-workwhat size of screen do you have on your laptop05:50
techlord-workand what model05:50
gdhand Windows' "large font" setting breaks a lot of apps. Nice one, billy boy.05:50
alleegdh: yeah.  DVI is really nice.  And window fonts sucks like hell!05:50
gdhit took me ages to try to explain to one guy how X worked by determining the dpi from the monitor itself and setting the font scale accordingly :)05:51
allee(btw. when I first installed ubuntu gnome had an unreadable tiny font too)  using px instead of pt is a big mistake!05:51
gdhYes :)05:52
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alleegdh: what are you using: FAI, LTP or something else?06:00
alleeis DSDT initrd patch in the kernel?   Didn't found something about it :(06:02
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nctervalAlright, I tried dist-upgrading from Debian Sid to Kubuntu, and I'm having problems getting kde-style-lipstik... installed.06:24
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Curaltonfrom sid to kubuntu, nasty :)06:28
Curaltonfirst make sure you have all sid packages replaced with ubuntu ones, use /etc/apt/preferences for that, i.e. put kubuntu ones at max priority, overriding locally installed ones06:29
nctervalIndeed.  I had lipstik installed already, and it seems to be having problems overwriting it with the Kubuntu package.  I'm using Lipstik as my theme right now, but can't open up KControl to change it.  Can you do it from the CLI?06:30
Curaltonno idea, see if its a config issue and try as another user with a clear ~/.kde06:31
techlord-workhas anyone here ever heard of wireless assistant for kde?06:31
Curaltonelse sort out the package mess first :)06:31
crimsunsid -> hoary works fairly well, but it takes a bit of massaging06:31
crimsunfor instance, you have to put python2.4 related packages on hold once you get them installed from kubuntu06:32
nctervalcrimsun: Why?06:32
Curaltonapt/preferences should do that for you06:32
crimsunyes well, I neglected to mention that the situation is not a complete switchover to {k}ubuntu.  It's a mixed sid/experimental/hoary whirlpool.06:33
Curaltonheh, longing for X.org in sid?06:33
nctervalCuralton: Yes, in fact.  That and KDE 3.406:34
crimsunnot really.  It's just much easier for me to track bugs and changelogs if I have both sid and hoary sources.06:34
nctervalI think I need to uninstall my old lipstik package so the Kubuntu one can be installed, but whenever I do an apt-get-remove it tries to install the Kubuntu one first.06:35
Curaltonncterval: you still have sid and kubunto sources.list entrys?06:35
Curaltonid remove the sid ones then06:35
nctervalJust the Kubuntu ones ATM.06:36
crimsunkill the sid entries, update, purge the package, and reinstall the package from kubuntu06:36
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Curaltonah, indeed /var/cache/apt/archives/ cahce maybe06:36
nctervalI think I have everything worked out, I just need to remove the old lipstik package without it trying to resolve any dependencies.  Is there a switch for that in apt-get?06:38
alleetechlord-work: read about wlassistant today on kde-apps.  Sounds very interesting but have not tried06:40
ncterval'The following packages have unmet dependencies:  kubuntu-default-settings: Depends: kde-style-lipstik but it is not going to be installed'06:40
Curaltonncterval: dpkg -r --force-all <pkg>06:40
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Curaltonwarning --force-all is a supreme way to really fsck your system06:40
techlord-workallee i thought it sounded interesting also, seems a little better then kwifimanger06:40
nctervalYou know what, I think I just needed to use dpkg instead of apt-get-that was stupid.  Thanks, Curalton06:42
alleetechlord-work: will you try it?06:42
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techlord-workallee: i'm at work now but i will install and try when i get home06:47
alleetechlord-work: great.  keep me informed.06:48
techlord-workallee will do06:48
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nctervalAlright, KDE 3.4 is working.  I'm not sure if I'm running X.org, though, how do I find out?06:58
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nctervalAh.  Looks like it's still XF86...  at least I got KDE 3.4.07:00
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Curaltonncterval: alioth also has kde 3.407:00
nctervalCuralton: I believe they didn't have KDM working, though.07:02
Curaltonyou have to install it manually07:05
Curaltonbut yes, a plain dist-upgrade leaved kdm segfaulting07:05
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nctervalKubuntu does something with sudo, right?  Because my root password seems to have been changed.07:07
Curaltonsudo passwd root to fix it :)07:08
Curaltonyes, no root user just as in mac os x07:08
Curaltoninteresing that just updating changes that, evil :>07:08
nctervalThe command is 'sudo (password) root' to set it?07:09
Curaltonpasswd is the binary to call07:10
nctervalAlright, when I do that it asks for a password, then doesn't accept my old one.07:10
Curalton1st password is your user pass07:11
Curaltonthen 2x new root pass07:11
nctervalIt says my username is not in the sudoers file.07:12
Curaltonuh oh o.O07:12
Curaltonseems your system locked you out :>07:12
ncterval:O  So what should I do?07:13
Curaltonheh, file a bug, then boot with init=/bin/sh, mount your rootfs manually and set a new rootpass07:14
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nctervalOuch.  Alright, there's an init file to edit somewhere to boot like that, right?07:15
lonewolffjsut pass it to the kernel at boot time07:16
nctervalForgive my ignorance, but how?07:18
lonewolffwhen you boot it tells you to press a key to get to the grub screen (esc i think) and then edit the parameters for your installed kerenl (instructions are shown on the grub screen) and add the information to the end07:19
lonewolffsorry i cant be more specific, but i have not looked at the grub screen in ubuntu much07:19
lonewolffthats just a generic way to edit grub boot options07:20
nctervalOh, alright, do it with grub.  I think I understand.07:20
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nctervalTo set the new password it would be 'passwd root' then the password?07:21
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lonewolffpasswd root then it will aks for the new pass twice07:21
nctervalAlright, thanks, I'll go do that.07:21
ztonzyamu, hey :) I burned a live cd of kubuntu today of "current" I discovered that 'pmount'  isn't there or doesn't work...07:25
Riddellztonzy: it wasn't in the seeds and we had to take it out of the depends because it was causing problems, it's now in the seeds but not in time for today's CDs (or release candidates)07:26
ztonzyamu, usb-stick was detected but couldn't be loaded :-/07:26
ztonzyRiddell, hmm ok07:27
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ztonzyRiddell, does it work in Ubuntu (hoary) ?07:27
ztonzyI mean if I want a live cd07:27
Riddellztonzy: I work on kubuntu07:28
ztonzyRiddell, sorry07:28
Riddellztonzy: don't be, I like it :)07:28
ztonzylike kubuntu ? I use it everyday :p07:28
ztonzyI just want to take a live cd with me and being able to use USB where I am07:29
ztonzyRiddell, I also introduced Kubuntu and Ubuntu to guy today...he have tried Red Hat, Fedora and also Suse :)  so I told him to give it a shot07:30
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ztonzylonewolff, who doesnt ;) ?07:31
lonewolffdunno, suse does have some good hardware detection stuff07:31
Curaltonis this "update to kunbutu, user locked out" bug filed already?07:32
RiddellCuralton: I've not heard of it07:32
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nctervalThe root password works from the CLI, now, but not in kdesu.07:36
Curaltondoes kdesu maybe use the suduers facility?07:37
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Curaltonif you you have to add your user to the adm(?) group and maybe edit the suduers file07:37
St0n3-C0lu can set ur root password07:37
St0n3-C0lthen try07:37
St0n3-C0lThats the safest option07:38
St0n3-C0lif ur system is used by others07:38
nctervalI'm looking at the sudoers file right now, do I just add my username under the user privelages specification?07:39
trekeIs there anything currently in place in main that can handle bringing up a network interface when a connection is present? Something similar to ifplugd and waproamd?07:41
Curaltonncterval: use "visudo"07:42
Curaltonncterval: that checks the syntax, iirc its %adm ALL = ALL or something like it07:43
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nctervalIs the soundcard not /dev/dsp in Kubuntu?07:52
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alleetreke: I would also like to know.  ifplugd is in universe  (and IMHO every laptop without ifplugd is broken ;)08:14
nydusthow do i install a printer that are on a windows nettwork?08:14
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trekeallee: hehe yeah. I'm just going to install ifplugd, but I figured I'd check and see if there was a more ubuntu way of doing things before reverting to old faithful :)08:17
Curaltonheh, its not even in the universe repository which you can activate just by mouse?08:18
trekeit's in universe08:18
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phunkyis there a british english language pack for kubuntu?08:19
Riddellifplugd should talk to HAL so it can have nice graphical front ends08:19
Riddellphunky: kde-i18n-engb08:19
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alleeRiddell: Why? ifplug does what's in interfaces and knemo tells me that I'm on(off)line now.   What needs a UI is ifup/down08:23
nctervalHmmm, artsd keeps giving me 'device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such device)', although the file /dev/dsp does indeed exist.08:25
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alleencterval: check that no two artsd are running (e.g. a second for root because of a konsole beep)08:27
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amuztonzy: thx, saw it already08:29
nctervalRoot did have a soundserver open, but killing it didn't help :(08:29
techlord-workquestion for you ubuntu recognizes my builtin sd card reader but kubuntu doesn't08:30
techlord-workany ideas08:30
ztonzyamu, ah, I was thinking I could add pmount to the system and burn a new cd...can it be done ?08:30
amukubuntu livecd ? or the installed one ?  08:31
ztonzyamu, live cd08:31
amuztonzy: yep tried it on the live and it works, so just pmount was missing 08:31
ztonzytoday's release08:31
ztonzyjust the binary "pmount" is enough ?08:32
amuztonzy: apt-get install pmount 08:32
ztonzyI have it...but I mean if I want on the live cd08:32
amuztonzy: doesnt matter, liveCD behavior is like a normal system08:33
ztonzynormal ?  so...I cant copy the live cd content to hd and add pmount to that and burn it on a new cd ?08:33
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : Release Canidate Released: http://kubuntu.org/hoary-release-candidate.php | Wiki: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu | Feedback please: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuReleaseCandidateComments | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuReleaseCandidateKnownProblems
RiddellRelease Candidate out!08:34
trekeand I just installed the preview :p08:35
amuztonzy: something like this, check http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo08:35
Riddelltreke: always the way :)08:35
ztonzyRiddell, means ;) ?08:36
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trekenope :(08:37
Riddellgrab it while it's fresh!  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/hoary/rc/08:37
Curaltonill just dist-upbreak it :)08:38
Riddelluse the torrents please08:38
Curaltonhmm, indeed. my rootserver has bandwidth to burn08:38
trekeit worked I just had to switch vts to get x back08:39
Curaltonfor this remaining month at least08:39
Simeanyone know what the status is of the python+KDE bindings?08:39
Sime(hi john)08:39
trekeoh wait no. 08:39
trekeit looks like the mounted partitions went by bye :)08:40
Curaltonhmm, to bad i cant tell bittorent to stop after uploading X GByte08:42
treketoo bad I can't use bittorrent :(08:43
Curaltonmain page still advertises the preview08:44
amuwould it help to have a kubuntu-forum ?08:46
ztonzythink I am gonna burn Ubuntu RC horay live cd on a cd-rw :)  and test08:46
ztonzyRiddell, so this RC still doesnt have 'pmount'  ?08:49
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Curaltonppc seeder gone? cant complete that atm08:54
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moominskiany1 know how i can change terminal backround colour?08:56
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Curaltonor is  --max_download_rate broken for bt :/08:56
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ztonzyapokryphos, evening08:57
apokryphosHi there; how's it going?08:57
apokryphosheh, new amaroK out (and in repositories!) already I see09:01
techlord-workwhat kernel is kubuntu based off09:02
ztonzyapokryphos, fine thanks, you ?09:02
apokryphosLinux one ;-)09:02
apokryphostechlord-work: currently, 2.6.1009:02
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apokryphosztonzy: Yup, all pretty well here. 09:03
techlord-workok thanks09:03
moominskiapokryphos: do you know how i can change my terminal backroud colour?09:04
moominskiits white and i cant see some files09:04
apokryphosmoominski: Yup. Settings > Configure Konsole > Schema09:04
apokryphosIt's always worth checking the handbook of KDE programs. You can do it in konqueror by typing help:<programname> in the URL bar. Also from the Help menu in the program...09:05
moominskiomg where is settings09:05
apokryphosDid you remove it? ;-)09:06
trekeapparantly acpi based powermanagement still sucks :)09:07
moominskiSettings > Configure Konsole > Schema where do i find that09:08
trekein konsole :)09:09
moominskiomg 09:09
moominskiit dont work09:09
apokryphosmoominski: well, what do you mean?09:09
trekehow does it not work?09:09
moominskii want to change the terminal backround colour09:10
apokryphosmoominski: yes, and, what's the exact problem? 09:10
apokryphosHow is it not working? Which part...09:10
moominskiSettings > Configure Konsole > Schema09:11
moominskithat part09:11
trekeright how does that not work?09:11
apokryphosHeh. So what's gone wrong? Have you gone to it?09:11
trekekde's menu code seems to be reasonably bug free :)09:11
moominskii typed it in terminal and nothing happens09:11
apokryphosYou don't type that in Terminal :)09:11
moominskiwot do i do then09:12
apokryphosYou go to the Menu, up top. ">" normally indicate menus/sub-menus09:12
trekelook at your menus09:12
moominskidid that09:12
apokryphosand "Settings" is not there?09:12
moominskiu have completely lost me m8 sorry if im bein a pain but i aint got a clue09:14
trekego to the settings menu09:15
moominskiwhere is the setings menu?09:20
moominskiok im konqueror settings is that right09:21
trekelook at the menus in konsole09:21
moominskiwitch tab09:21
apokryphosNo tab, it's the menu09:21
trekemenus are above the tabs09:21
moominskiahh the little downword arrow?09:22
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treke? what little downward arrow?09:22
moominskiin terminal top left09:23
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apokryphosNo, not that.09:23
trekeapokryphos: haha you beat me to it :p09:24
Riddellztonzy: it doesn't have pmount but all the daily CDs either side of it do09:24
ztonzyRiddell, install ?09:26
Riddellztonzy: hmm?09:26
ztonzyI meant live cd/pmount09:26
Riddellztonzy: what about it?09:26
ztonzyand you replied all other than RC , daily have it09:26
ztonzyRiddell, so that's why I asked "install"09:27
ztonzyif it makes sense 09:27
Riddellztonzy: yeah.  probably not entirely accurate but it was included in some because kdebase depended on it, but the depend broke stuff so that's removed and now it's included in the seeds directly09:27
Riddellztonzy: so it's not on the release candidate live or install CDs09:27
ztonzyRiddell, ok :)  thanks09:28
ztonzyI did howeveer burned Ubuntu hoary live on a CDRW09:28
ztonzythe RC09:28
ztonzyto see if it works09:28
Riddelland did it?09:28
ztonzyhavent tested yet...on 4x speed... heh09:29
ztonzyeven though burner handles 24x  bad CD-rw's ;)09:29
ztonzywill do in a moment09:29
ztonzybrb !09:31
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moominskiits ok i found it thanks for your help im a bumbass09:33
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randabishopefully the x-server won't crash again :/09:41
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dimmaki am unable to get past my router on my kubuntu box to the internet... any configuration settings i should look at? it worked in the past... it has been borked for about 3 days and I don't know the cause09:48
dimmaki have experienced the problem of only getting to the router with wireless setups... but never a wired client09:49
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techlord-workcheck your deafult route09:49
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ztonzyRiddell, works fine here :)09:55
dimmakroute add default gw eth009:55
dimmakthank you so much09:55
dimmaki don't know what borked it09:56
dimmakbut that sure as hell fixed it09:56
dimmaktime to enjoy the relieft and upgrade my packages09:56
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techlord-workjust for it can get borked again LOL10:00
dimmakand then find a new way to fix it10:02
Riddellztonzy: groovy10:05
ztonzyRiddell, yes...it even detected that my usb device (digicam) had images on it :)  and if I wanted to import them10:06
techlord-worki can't get kubuntu to see my built in sd card reader10:06
ztonzyRiddell, maybe Kubuntu RC live cd is better than the Kubuntu Live CD I burned from 'curren't better ??10:06
Riddellztonzy: much the same, current is a few hours later10:07
ztonzyRiddell, but this was before you announced "RC" (that I burned 'current')10:11
ztonzyRiddell, so was something added during the last hours ?10:11
Riddellztonzy: RC is the daily build 20050330, 20050330.1 is the normal daily build10:18
ztonzyRiddell, ok10:19
ztonzyRiddell, gnome 2.10 seems nice10:22
Riddellztonzy: hmm?  you sure you downloaded the right CD?10:22
techlord-workthat's what i was thinking10:23
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ztonzyRiddell, hehe :)10:25
ztonzyRiddell, I was supposed to test the Ubuntu live CD first to see if it worked...then try latest Kubuntu live CD (RC?)10:26
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ztonzy_even installed java in the ram :)10:40
ztonzy_works nice10:41
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XiraHow do I reset the Kubuntu theme settings so I get the theme I got when I logged in for the first time?11:15
motaboyXira: the widgets style?11:18
randabisXira, install kubuntu-default-settings11:18
XiraThe panel, window theme etc11:18
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Xiraapt-get kubuntu-default-settings ?11:19
motaboyXira: in the control center.11:19
randabisapt-get install kubuntu-default-settings11:19
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delltonyhey guys and any ladys if here11:19
randabisif it says it is already installed, then reinstall it11:19
Xirakubuntu-default-settings is already the newest version.11:19
Xiraapt-get remove kubuntu-default settings && apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings11:20
randabisI suppose that is one way to do it11:20
Xirahow else?11:20
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randabisapt-get --reinstall kubuntu-default-settings 11:22
Xiraroot@evermore:/# apt-get --reinstall kubuntu-default-settings11:23
XiraE: Invalid operation kubuntu-default-settings11:23
randabisadd install after --reinstall11:23
randabismy bad11:23
randabisapt-get --reinstall install kubuntu-default-settings 11:24
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