[12:04] has anybody heard about working on an ubuntu server version? [12:05] i've seen a discussion on on the forums about, whether it would make a good server or not but that was it [12:06] at the official site? [12:07] a server is only as good as it's weakest application that you need. So if all ubuntus apps work for what you need, then yeah. It's great. I plan on replacing 3 servers with it soon. [12:07] People said mandrake wasn't a good server distro, I told them not to say that within earshot of all the machines I had which had Mandrake and 1yr+ uptimes. Several of them. [12:08] It's the admin - not the distro :) [12:08] I "was" a mandrake user for long [12:08] I am talking about amateur admins ;) [12:08] like me [12:09] anyway, I prefer to add to a server [12:09] and with a mandrake server you have to strip the system [12:09] cause it has too many stuff, useless for servers [12:10] Me too - I used mandrake for about 6yrs. [12:10] And redsplat 2 or so years prior to that. [12:11] I want to learn server administration with ubuntu [12:11] virtual domains and so on [12:12] I am starting with xampp [12:12] cause this way I don't mess with system files === dpeach [~david@201.137.29.134] has joined #kubuntu [12:12] kubuntu is very fast [12:13] looks like my pc has rebirth === robodex [~aaron@Toronto-HSE-ppp3707417.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [12:25] hey... does anyone else have the problem where text is REALLY small in KDE? [12:28] as in, I can barely read half the text... changing fonts in the font settings has had no effect [12:28] robodex: nope. You might wanna check your fonts (in kcontrol) and your resolution. [12:28] hmm, did you select to change *all* fonts? === ikama [~ikama@p5081BD75.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:29] afaik yes... only certain programs have small text, though; all the KDE programs are fine. But so far xchat, firefox and xterm all have REALLY small text [12:29] Can I install any Debian app on Kubuntu? Or does it have to be compiled for Kubuntu? [12:29] ohhh, gtk stuff [12:29] I was able to up the text in xchat manually, but it's not really helping [12:29] heh yeah, any way to fix that? [12:29] robodex: yup, get the gtk2-engines-gtk-qt package [12:30] k, I'll try that (shouldn't it have installed with kubuntu-desktop, though? :S) [12:30] Nah, that's for gtk stuff. Kubuntu is concerned with gtk. :) [12:31] *KDE [12:31] heh true enough, I'm just trying KDE out... it's pretty good in ubuntu, I've only found a few minor issues so far :D [12:31] k when it's installed do I just restart x? [12:33] Hi, everybody [12:33] byes [12:33] robodex: Nope, just restart the gtk stuff [12:33] hmm... I restarted xterm and it had no effect [12:34] xterm isn't gtk, as far as I know [12:34] does any body have the same problem with dependecies openoffice and kubuntu-desktop packages [12:34] well ff is having the problems still too [12:34] ff does have gtk stuff. Perhaps try logging back in... [12:35] yeah, I'll try that in a minute [12:35] they are installing or updating but the postconfiguration is corrupt === HillTop [~chatzilla@cpe-204-210-35-9.san.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:40] will any debian package work for kubuntu? Or does it have to be Ubuntu/Kubuntu specific? [12:40] most debian packages SHOULD work [12:41] If they don't is it pretty easy to make a deb from source? [12:41] (I am coming from a RPM based world, and know little to nothing about debs) === rinnan [~rinnan@cpe-66-8-204-116.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:43] can any1 help me how to install rpms [12:43] hello, kubuntu noobee here. Question for whoever deems me fit enough to answer: I booted the KDE Live CD and liked it so much I installed it, overwriting RedHat. It's fine, but in the life CD, it uses Kubuntu icons, themes, colors, etc. But in mine, it uses only exactly standard KDE! What did I do wrong? How can I fix it? [12:44] moominski: Maybe, "apt-get install rpm"? It's a guess, but probably a good one! [12:44] that easy? [12:44] should i sudo [12:44] That installs the RPM system (I think) -- try it and tell me what it says. [12:44] Yes. [12:44] "sudo apt-get install rpm" [12:44] rinnan: did you use an existing /home / [12:44] rinnan: did you use an existing /home ? [12:44] I'll try it on mine. [12:45] Riddell: No, only the standard install. Which is why I find it odd. [12:45] (Hoary) [12:45] rinnan: preview release? [12:46] rinnan, try apt-get install kubuntu-defaults (I think that's the package) [12:46] Yes. It is simply too buggy? [12:46] restarting x, brb [12:46] how do i do a standard install [12:46] randabis: Trying now. [12:46] rinnan, kubuntu-default-settings [12:46] that's the package [12:46] its' already there. Purging and reinstalling... [12:48] (had to also reinstall kubuntu-desktop, doing so...) [12:48] Okay guys wish me luck, rebooting into my (hopefully new and pretty) kde === robodex [~aaron@Toronto-HSE-ppp3707417.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [12:50] heh, I still have that problem :\ [12:53] anything else that could be causing it? [12:55] does any body have the same problem with dependecies openoffice and kubuntu-desktop packages [12:55] they are installing or updating but the postconfiguration is corrupt [12:55] nobody has the same problem? [12:55] I dont' t think so! [12:56] this prob has occured since 2 or three updates before [12:57] have you tried removing the .kde file in your home dir [12:57] Anyone know what could fix the small text problem? (or, hell, what's causing it?) [12:57] is it just me, or is it not possible to set a capture channel in alsamixer on hoary? [12:58] techlord-work: concerning to me [12:59] yea ikama have your tried removing the .kde folder, this would cause all your kde settings to reset, maybe including the fonts [01:00] it only does it on certain apps, though... [01:02] heh downing my res to 1024 (from 1152) actually makes it seem worse.. === bhsx [~bhsx@c-67-175-142-179.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:06] i followed the guide at http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories, but when i apt-get update i get "GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release: The following signatures blah blah blah"... what does that mean/how do i fix it other than removing those lines from sources.list? [01:08] is there i suggested mirror list that kubuntu uses? [01:08] s i/a [01:09] how do i get alien [01:10] join x-files ;) === verden01 [~verden@61.68.231.56] has joined #kubuntu [01:11] sudo apt-get install alien [01:11] Hi i just installed kubuntu on my AMD64 box and it rocks [01:12] does anyone know when the final version of kubuntu will be released? [01:12] not long [01:12] my guess a few days after apr 8th === yuxel [~opera@82.145.229.72] has joined #kubuntu === ikama [~ikama@p5081BD75.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:12] that's when ubuntu is getting released [01:12] hmmm I think I MAY know what's causing the problem... [01:13] brb [01:13] is it worth doing an update and upgrade b4 then === synd [~phillip@h142.16.55.139.ip.alltel.net] has joined #kubuntu === synd [~phillip@h142.16.55.139.ip.alltel.net] has left #kubuntu [] [01:14] i would, because what you upgrade now will just be less you have to get then [01:15] cool thanx === marcus [~marcus@xdsl-81-173-149-118.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu === yuxel` [~opera@82.145.230.108] has joined #kubuntu === marcusT [~marcus@xdsl-81-173-153-133.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:31] can i remove text form left iconbox(?) in kontact ? [01:31] 3.4 === robodex [~aaron@Toronto-HSE-ppp3707417.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:32] hey, still haven't fixed the problem (posted a topic on the forums,) but I have another really stupid question... how do I change the window style in kubuntu? >_< === moominski [~moominski@cpc3-belc1-6-0-cust66.blfs.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:33] control center themes and appereance [01:33] where in there? [01:33] i still can inatll rpms on kubuntu is there a website with a howto?? [01:34] style only changes widgets... === LeeJunFan [junfan@64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:35] i'm going from memory here not near my kubuntu box, but on the menu there is control center or control panel, in there you you have themes [01:35] i think that is what your looking for [01:36] heh I have theme manager but it doesn't change my windows (stays as plastik) [01:36] robodex: sorry. [01:36] robodex: if you start kontact left side the apps [01:37] ? === verden01 [~verden@61.68.231.56] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === marcus [~marcus@xdsl-81-173-153-133.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:42] robodex: maybe you misunderstud me, sorry [01:42] i wonder robodex what happens if you delete the .kde folder in your home dir and restart, that should clean any broken or corrupt kde files and may resolve both issues === LeeJunFan is now known as LeeJunFan_away [01:52] time to go home catch you all when i'm there [01:52] k, I'll try that [01:52] brb === techlord-work [~TechLord@rchp4.rochester.ibm.com] has left #kubuntu [] === billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === Le0 [~leo@148.240.220.17] has joined #kubuntu [02:07] hiya ppl [02:08] wot does this mean E: Couldn't find package === Le0 [~leo@148.240.220.17] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:11] means apt-get couldnt find the package u tried to install === robodex [~aaron@Toronto-HSE-ppp3707417.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === regeya [~shane@dialup-4.159.181.5.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:13] I got the problem fixed, but it was a really stupid fix and it's a pain to do it every time I load KDE... [02:14] I had to load gnome-font-properties [02:15] I don't know if that starts something, but the fonts are fixed (until I restart kde) [02:15] testers wanted for release candidate CDs http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ [02:16] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/daily/current/ [02:17] kpakage wont let me install rpm even though im putting in the right password [02:17] any help [02:17] moominski: root password needed. [02:17] yeah i typed it but it sais its wrong but its not [02:17] its right [02:18] moominski: are you sure you're typing the *root* password; not your one, with root priveledges. [02:18] wot other password is there [02:18] moominski: in terminal type plain "su" and enter the password there you're trying to use in Kpackage. [02:19] moominski: aha ;) [02:19] i didnt create 1 [02:19] moominski: sudo passwd [02:19] then make a password [02:20] ok [02:20] moominski: it shouldn't ask you for your root -- ubuntu uses sudo, but that package hasn't been patched [02:22] rpm: To install rpm packages on Debian systems, use alien. See README.Debian. [02:22] error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) [02:22] error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm [02:22] it needs the user password, not root, any suggestions on how to translate a new string into different languages happily accepted [02:23] Riddell no, Riddell, it really does need root [02:23] sudo alien file [02:23] dpkg -i file ? === apokryphos was referring to KPackage [02:23] apokryphos: hwat does|? [02:23] hmm, bad keyboard [02:24] moominski: what error is that from? What are you trying to do? [02:24] ok i got this after "sudo alien" kerastik_0.2-2_i386.deb generated [02:25] install a kde theme [02:25] moominski: cool, now just follow haggai's second instruction. [02:26] sudo dpkg -i kerastik_0.2-2_i386.deb [02:26] It might not work, though, because some of those will have a different location of KDEDIR. At least, that's what I presume the problem is, since I had problems installing some kde-theme rpms like that === NamShub [~wasted@dsl-135-133.aei.ca] has joined #kubuntu [02:27] sudo dpkg -i kerastik_0.2-2_i386.deb this worked [02:27] thanks === carambol [~Internet@c117065.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu === yuxel` [~opera@82.145.230.108] has left #kubuntu [] === LeeJunFan_away is now known as LeeJunFan === StR [~str@216.230.136.242] has joined #kubuntu [02:50] hi there [02:50] I installed hoary, but I don't get the graphic loading like the live CD... what package to I need to install? [02:57] the splash screen? [02:58] hayden, the scroll that shows when ubuntu is loading, not like other distros when you see the txt about mounting, hotplugins, etc... === cornholio [~splaza@pc-200-74-118-54.megavia.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:00] i dont think there is a package u can just install to do that [03:01] hayden, but you have that screen, right? not the txt screen === cornholio [~splaza@pc-200-74-118-54.megavia.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has left #kubuntu [] === haggai-livecd [~ubuntu@i-83-67-20-196.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu === James_k84 [~james@MACKWEST-217.ubishops.ca] has joined #kubuntu [03:09] how do I get sshd to work in kubuntu? [03:11] James_k84: sudo apt-get install ssh [03:11] isn't it openssh-server? === mwylde [~mwylde@adsl-63-204-12-145.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:12] How can gnome be installed on a Kubuntu system? [03:12] apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [03:13] thanks [03:14] kubuntu-desktop :) [03:14] eek [03:14] ignore [03:15] I already have it... [03:16] James_k84: then you have gnome :) [03:16] but how to I get it to run? [03:16] I tried /etc/init.d/sshd start. [03:17] James_k84: what did it say? [03:18] any ideas? === verden01 [~verden@61.68.231.56] has joined #kubuntu [03:18] James_k84: what did /etc/init.d/sshd start say, what does ps -ef | grep sshd say? [03:19] Hi [03:19] james@Osiris:/etc/init.d$ ps -ef | grep ss [03:19] james 7976 7021 0 15:24 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/x-session-manager [03:19] james 8023 7976 0 15:24 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager [03:19] james 8026 1 0 15:24 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager [03:19] james 8029 1 0 15:24 ? 00:00:00 dbus-daemon-1 --fork --print-pid 8 --print-address 6 --session [03:19] james 8113 8053 0 15:24 ? 00:00:11 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f [03:19] james 8115 1 0 15:24 ? 00:00:00 kaccess [kdeinit] kaccess [03:19] james 8119 8053 0 15:24 ? 00:00:03 kwin [kdeinit] kwin -session 10b8e66972000111191053800000199780000_1112127726_800346 [03:19] james 8140 1 0 15:25 ? 00:00:00 kmix [kdeinit] kmix -session 10d8cecf96000111065458100000063760027_1112127726_790235 [03:19] root 8449 1 0 19:53 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -l 3 -f [03:19] root 8698 1 0 19:54 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd [03:19] james 8970 8392 0 20:18 pts/1 00:00:00 grep ss [03:20] James_k84: that'll be it running there then [03:20] hello verden01 [03:20] then why can't I ssh into my box? [03:20] from a local network? [03:21] hi Riddell [03:21] James_k84: can you access any other service? can you ping it? what does ssh say when you try to connect? what if you do ssh localhost from the machine [03:21] the ip I'm trying to ssh into isn't the DMZ or anything... [03:22] I can ssh locally. [03:22] installed kubuntu last night and it had no problems with any hardware on my AMD64 box :-) [03:22] verden01: excellent. did the sound work? [03:23] James_k84: sounds like a firewall issue then [03:23] hmm... weird. [03:23] yeah everything worked [03:23] thanks a lot [03:24] verden01: good, if confusing (other people have reported sound server problems on amd64) [03:25] since i've had the AMD64 box i've found that a lot of distro's don't support all my hardware but kubuntu does :) [03:26] kubunto is great ive other distros but im stckin with this its the only ive been able to do something [03:26] if this is mainly a beta release then it must be close to final release because its pretty stable [03:27] verden01: release candidate in testing now [03:27] cool is it worth updating and upgrading now or best to wait for the final trelease? [03:28] konqueror is a bit dodgy wiv me dont no wy keeps crasking [03:28] moominski: do you have file previews on? [03:28] dont no [03:29] the only thing i found different is the fact that i can't log in as root but i'm getting used to using the sudo command === hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [03:30] hayden whats it like in sunny QLD today? [03:30] Riddell: how do i turn file preveiws on [03:31] moominski: third menu from left -> previews -> tick them all [03:31] some people have reported crashes on that but it's working fine for me now === Riddell has french language pack installed and isn't actually sure what the third menu from left is called [03:33] Riddell: thanks === carambol [~Internet@c117065.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu [03:35] any1 no how i can rip internetradiostream?? [03:35] moominski: kaffeine === Bizzeh [Bizzeh@host81-158-25-32.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:38] Riddell: kaffeine dont work for it just stops responding === difekta [~DIFEKTA@h-67-101-101-20.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [03:38] any ideas? [03:47] moominski, streamripper works well [03:47] it's a commandline tool though === robodex [~aaron@Toronto-HSE-ppp3707417.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [03:48] streamtuner is a gui tool for internet streams and it will do ripping too [03:48] you may want to check it out...it's in the repositories [03:49] anyone know when pykde will be updated in the repositories? [03:50] not having pykde is killing karamba.. [03:50] how do i get in the repositories [03:50] is it worth updating and upgrading kubuntu now or best to wait for the final release? [03:50] it [03:50] s [03:50] pretty nice now, but no harm in waiting. [03:51] cool [03:51] definitely worth it :) kde 3.4 rocks my socks :p [03:51] if you're trying to use kde in warty definitely upgrade. [03:52] hey i think its great to be using a quality Debian based os again [03:52] verden01: were frozen now except for bugfixes so now is a good time [03:52] k [03:53] i've installed kubuntu [03:53] billytwowilly, [03:53] it rocks [03:54] can any1 help get kaffeine workin [03:54] if you've installed kubuntu you should update... It's beta stuff you have installed anyway. [03:54] haggai: Is anyone going to update the pykde debs before the release? That's a semi important package for anyone using superkaramba and a bunch of other stuff (ie several amarok scripts use it) [03:55] i'm thinking of upgrading but i need to d/l another 200 odd mb of data [03:55] billytwowilly: I don't know if anyone will have time [03:56] haggai: That's too bad... it's a moderately important part of kde. [04:00] AMAZING RACE IS ON GOODBYE KIND SIRS [04:01] HEY..YOU LIKE TO USE ALL CAPS TOO?! AWESOME! [04:02] I wonder if there are any plans to have a kubuntu unstable branch within the grumpy unstable branch when it is released... [04:02] WHY DON't channels like this start migrating to jabber servers? [04:03] because IRC is tried and true probably [04:05] jabber? [04:06] bah. === apokryphos [~apokrypho@host-84-9-34-89.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:09] #kubuntu-devel [04:09] ergh === regeya [~regeya@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:14] i see there are no games installed with kubuntu, are there going to be in the future or is it best to D/L then from the universe packages? === jas_MHz [~jason@81-86-89-104.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:14] verden01: I believe kdegames is in Main, isn't it? [04:15] i'll check but i was wondering why they weren't installed by default [04:16] verden01: not enough room on the CD [04:16] k :) [04:17] apokryphos, they are in the main repository === Xira [~XIra@c-24-10-51-201.client.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:19] downloading them now on my super fast dialup connection :( [04:21] I downloaded kubuntu-desktop in 4 minutes [04:21] :x === evan_d [~evan@12.173.107.220] has joined #kubuntu [04:25] Xira, hmmm i might do that one day when i can access fast internet [04:25] i feel your pain, I was on dialup for 6 years [04:26] then i got dsl last year, and this year i got 4mbit cable which recently was upgraded to 6mbit for free [04:26] isn't kubuntu-desktop just a tiny dummy package? [04:26] billytwowilly, it's kubuntu-desktop for ubuntu [04:26] it's 395mb [04:29] no. it's 32.8 KB. [04:29] negative [04:29] I just installed it an hour ago [04:29] I'm looking at kubuntu-desktop right now in synaptic. [04:29] It's a meta package. [04:29] ok any1 no how i install stream ripper [04:29] It depends on a whole bunch of stuff. [04:29] well in rural Australia the its hard to get a decent broadband connection === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #kubuntu [04:30] ok, well I just did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [04:30] moominski: apt-get install streamripper [04:30] and it was 395mb [04:30] it dont work [04:30] woohooo [04:30] would you like me to upload the logs? [04:30] -.- [04:30] moominski: Then you don't have your repositories set up right. Go to the wiki and read up on how to setup universe, metaverse, restricted, etc. [04:30] xira, all the packages that it installs probably total up to 395MB, but the kubuntu-desktop meta-package itself is only a few K [04:30] oh, well [04:30] he's getting rather specific [04:31] Xira: I don't doubt that all the dependencies were large. I'm just nit picking;) [04:31] streamripper is already the newest version. [04:31] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 117 not upgraded. [04:31] it's well documented to ubuntu users to do a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to install all of the kubuntu compnents [04:31] then its installed. [04:31] ok how do i use it [04:31] where is it [04:31] it's perfect except the gnome menu entries dont show the icons for the KDE items [04:31] It's a command line tool. [04:31] You want streamtuner. [04:32] a nice gtk frontend with streams pre-programmed [04:32] apt-get install streamtuner. [04:32] minus the . [04:33] moominski, if you go to the kubuntu.org site i think it tells you how to log into gnome or kde [04:34] i think its in FAQ or something similiar [04:34] i know how to do that === regeya [~regeya@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has left #kubuntu [] === regeya [~regeya@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:38] I like streamripper :) streamtuner is good too though and will playback and rip streams [04:39] wot do i get source distro === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.167] has joined #kubuntu [04:41] source distro? what do you mean? [04:42] *gentoo gears start clicking* === Zugot [~bryan@pcp0010860530pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:44] does the kubuntu k3b burn mp3s? [04:46] Zugot: I believe not [04:46] Zugot: there's some stuff you can do though, to get it running. [04:48] when you say burn mp3s, do you mean making an mp3 audio disk or what? I can make mp3 data discs just fine without any tricks [04:49] If you mean make audio cds from mp3s like nero does, then you need to do a few things I believe. There's a howto guide on the ubuntu forums [04:49] randabis, you know what i mean.. [04:49] uh, no I don't...that's why I asked [05:00] ok how do i save streams with kafeine === dcm [thedcm@fl2-24.217.227.208.charter-stl.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:01] I have a problem with the Ubuntu live CD [05:01] I put it in my drive and restart but it doesn't work [05:02] I don't remember the exact reason, but I think it was something with the file system [05:03] this is #kubuntu, direct ubuntu questions to #ubuntu [05:03] we deal with kde mainly here [05:04] your problem could be a variety of things...a bad burn, incorrect BIOS settings, etc [05:05] I would, but I am banned [05:05] I'm using the ubuntu cd from the ship-it thing [05:08] check your bios, and make sure the first boot device is set to cdrom [05:08] It is [05:09] Well, Floppy -> CD -> HD === TechLord [~TechLord@c68.115.87.182.roc.mn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:09] hi all === ttf_ [~tom@p83.129.7.121.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:09] you'll need to provide the error it gives then before I can provide any further troubleshooting [05:09] question for you, how can i get a trashcan on my desktop [05:09] ok [05:09] ty [05:12] TechLord: there is a trash applet you can add. [05:12] to the desktop? [05:12] TechLord, navigate to you Desktop/ directory, locate the trash.desktop file, open it with a text editor and change Hidden=true to Hidden=false [05:12] TechLord: to kicker. [05:12] then save the file [05:12] I think you may have to log out and log back in for it to take effect === verden01 [~verden@61.68.231.56] has joined #kubuntu [05:14] well i got an icon now but it looks all strange and not like a trashcan [05:15] you should be able to change the icon === TechLord [~TechLord@c68.115.87.182.roc.mn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:19] what i was seeing was a backup file and logoff and on to see real icon === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu === TechLord [~TechLord@c68.115.87.182.roc.mn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === katz__ [~katz@h-69-3-4-130.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu === Roey [~Roey@pcp04370251pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:40] heya === pepsi is now known as Eagle-Fire [05:41] howdey [05:42] anyone here tried netzero with kubuntu? [05:42] hey kong-plugins got in!! yeay!! [05:42] Konqueror's Tools->/ menu is now mine! [05:42] muaahah === encKe` [~encKe`@ppp-70-249-172-43.dsl.mdldtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === Eagle-Fire is now known as pepsi === cbedve [~madaf_4@217.15.45.42] has joined #kubuntu === encKe` is now known as encKe === encKe [~encKe`@ppp-70-249-172-43.dsl.mdldtx.swbell.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === verden01 [~verden@61.68.231.56] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] what is the Enterprise Edition? [05:53] Kubuntu will always be free of charge, and there is no extra fee for the "enterprise edition", we make our very best work available to everyone on the same Free terms. [05:54] verden01: there isn't one [05:54] ok [05:54] verden01: unlike Red Hat which charges lots for the privilage of naming it Enterprise [05:54] oh ok [05:55] why is ubuntu and kubuntu free of charge? [05:55] because we think people will prefer it to be so [05:56] ubuntu has a donate button on their website if you don't, and I have a paypal account too [05:56] well your not wrong there :) [05:56] the main distro's i have used i have always paid for [05:57] Why would you pay for it? [05:57] because at the end of the day nothing is free [05:57] anyone know when kde 3.4.1 is due? [05:57] it must cost someone something [05:58] LeeJunFan: no time frame yet [05:59] *privilege [05:59] verden01: nobody expects kde, gnu or linux to change for their work [06:01] if you guys did charge then i don't think anyone could complain [06:02] I believe canonical only plans to charge for official support at the enterprise and production levels [06:02] the distro itself will remain free [06:03] cool [06:04] randabis: enterprise and production level? [06:05] probably worded that wrong, but what I mean is people who are using ubuntu for places like schools [06:05] or large offices, etc. [06:05] people that would need support [06:07] they charge for support, (by e-mail, phone etc) [06:08] this subject is explained very well on the ubuntulinux.org site [06:11] yeah === dcm [thedcm@fl2-24.217.227.208.charter-stl.com] has left #kubuntu [] === verden01 [~verden@61.68.231.56] has joined #kubuntu === alainm [~alainm@CPE002078c53e55-CM014090214258.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === alainm [~alainm@CPE002078c53e55-CM014090214258.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:33] is anyone here [06:36] meeee [06:38] what is the best way to backup a dvd on kde? [06:41] dunno [06:41] k3b? === encKe` [~encKe`@ppp-70-249-172-43.dsl.mdldtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === treke|laptop [~ggilbert@69-175-32-221.ventca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:52] TechLord: by back up are you talking about a data DVD or an encrypted copyrighted video DVD? [06:53] TechLord: cuz, AFAIK there is nothing like DVD shrink for linux, if that's what you want. [06:55] i'm talking about protecting my kid dvds from my kids [06:55] yea dvdshrink for linux would be great === underlord [~underlord@c211-30-113-130.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [06:57] TechLord: hehe, I think I've gone thru about 3 copies of fox and hound with my kid :) [06:57] can i disable that ugly graphical login (or replace it with a less ugly graphical login) without it reverting next time i upgrade my system? [06:58] underlord: if you want the default kdm look you can edit /etc/kde3/kdmrc and comment out the Theme= line [06:58] underlord: then it'll ask you when you do updates if you want to replace that config file or leave it as you have it. [06:59] ooh, ok === ice_1963 [~gary@pcp02171024pcs.brghtn01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:59] underlord: I understand there is a GUI tool that will eventually be in KDE for kdm theming, but as of yet it's not stable/complete enough. === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu [07:00]