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| fabbione | morning guys | 06:30 |
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| lamont | there's also the question of why my vaio freequently has no batteries, according to acpi according to the kernel | 08:22 |
| fabbione | lamont: i am sure mjg59 has an aswer to that | 08:23 |
| lamont | probably | 08:23 |
| fabbione | but i think it's a bit late for a fix | 08:25 |
| lamont | yeah | 08:26 |
| lamont | scary part is that I noticed it (figured I'd deleted a module or something), upgraded and rebooted, and it got better. rebooted and it's back. | 08:27 |
| lamont | nfc what's going on | 08:27 |
| fabbione | weird | 08:27 |
| fabbione | brb | 08:27 |
| fabbione | re | 08:39 |
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| zul | hey | 03:41 |
| zul | cool..http://kernelplanet.org/ | 03:49 |
| fabbione | hey | 04:46 |
| zul | how is it gonig? | 04:46 |
| fabbione | not too bad | 04:47 |
| zul | giid...im stuck writing documenation | 04:47 |
| fabbione | i should really spend time to add my blog somewhere | 04:50 |
| fabbione | given that i can remember to actually blog :) | 04:51 |
| zul | im not really into blogging | 04:52 |
| zul | ill read them though | 04:55 |
| fabbione | neither am i.. too much | 04:55 |
| fabbione | interesting is the comment on memset | 05:00 |
| fabbione | s/comment/blog/ | 05:00 |
| zul | yeah i found two in s390 scsi drivers in 2.6.12-rc1 | 05:01 |
| zul | i was thinking of patching the others that he found | 05:03 |
| fabbione | not worth | 05:03 |
| fabbione | we don't support s390 | 05:03 |
| zul | i know i was going to send it off to kj | 05:06 |
| zul | i do have a life outside of ubuntu ;) | 05:06 |
| fabbione | ehehe | 05:08 |
| zul | heh...2.6.12-rc1-zul.patch | 05:16 |
| zul | oh yah meeting today isnt there? | 05:18 |
| fabbione | yeps | 05:19 |
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| zul | whee...im going to go try kubuntu | 06:27 |
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| zul | well thats ood.. | 06:33 |
| fabbione | let me tell ya | 06:34 |
| fabbione | you need to select the session and switch it to KDE | 06:34 |
| fabbione | otherwise you only get kdm and gnome | 06:34 |
| zul | im running with kdm | 06:34 |
| zul | how do i switch the session? | 06:34 |
| fabbione | from kdm | 06:35 |
| zul | ah ok...brb :) | 06:35 |
| fabbione | ehhe | 06:35 |
| zul | duh.. | 06:35 |
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| zul | everything is real big | 06:38 |
| zul | fonts and stuff | 06:39 |
| fabbione | zul: 8396 looks so much as pure crap | 06:39 |
| zul | no info in the bug as well | 06:40 |
| fabbione | clearly | 06:41 |
| zul | lunch | 06:44 |
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| fabbione | hey guys | 07:16 |
| fabbione | i need a name for -32 | 07:16 |
| fabbione | ah hell.. brb | 07:17 |
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| fabbione | re | 07:19 |
| fabbione | hey T-Bone | 07:19 |
| fabbione | "Burning Biscuits"? | 07:20 |
| fabbione | "Smelly sausages"? | 07:20 |
| T-Bone | hey fabbione ! | 07:20 |
| === T-Bone wonders what fabbione is talking about ;) | ||
| fabbione | T-Bone: check the last changelogs in the kernel.. | 07:21 |
| fabbione | i am searching a name for -32 | 07:21 |
| T-Bone | ah ;) | 07:21 |
| T-Bone | fabbione: well, if you could fix the concurrency stuff in modules btw... :) | 07:21 |
| fabbione | "Radioactive Radish" | 07:22 |
| fabbione | "Super Spinach" | 07:22 |
| fabbione | T-Bone: ? | 07:22 |
| T-Bone | fabbione: the mail i sent you before going on vacation | 07:23 |
| fabbione | T-Bone: got no mails from you | 07:23 |
| kylem | T-Bone, hmm, i see the same problem, i think | 07:23 |
| fabbione | "Marvelous Marrow" | 07:23 |
| fabbione | can anybody explain the problem to me? | 07:24 |
| T-Bone | fabbione: Message-ID: <oN17ozdC.1111679287.0706720.varenet@localhost> | 07:24 |
| T-Bone | To: Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <fabbione@ubuntu.com> | 07:24 |
| T-Bone | Subject: kernel modules build | 07:24 |
| T-Bone | Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:48:07 +0100 | 07:24 |
| fabbione | T-Bone: i don't have that mail.... | 07:25 |
| T-Bone | fabbione: now you have it (just forwarded again) | 07:25 |
| fabbione | ah that's a bug in kernel package to maintain compatibility with 2.4 | 07:26 |
| fabbione | bug/feature | 07:26 |
| fabbione | it depends how you want to see it | 07:26 |
| T-Bone | err | 07:26 |
| fabbione | but i think we are going to change that | 07:27 |
| fabbione | T-Bone: on 2.6 it is enough to do make | 07:27 |
| fabbione | and everything is built | 07:27 |
| T-Bone | i don't understand how not compiling modules in a threaded way is a feature, nor how it preserves compat... :} | 07:27 |
| fabbione | on 2.4 iirc you need to call make bzImage and make modules | 07:27 |
| fabbione | therefor make modules is called twice | 07:27 |
| T-Bone | right | 07:27 |
| T-Bone | ah | 07:27 |
| fabbione | but it's a mistake | 07:28 |
| fabbione | easily fixable | 07:28 |
| fabbione | -> breezy | 07:28 |
| T-Bone | am i to understand that we really want our builders to spend time on kernels? :O) | 07:28 |
| T-Bone | the patch frenzy, now the modules frenzy, gosh... ;} | 07:28 |
| fabbione | T-Bone: if you really want to spend time on kernels just baz get the experimental branch and build on i386 :) | 07:28 |
| T-Bone | err, no way ;) | 07:28 |
| fabbione | so any suggestion for -32 release name? | 07:30 |
| T-Bone | Terrible Tomato? | 07:31 |
| fabbione | nah needs to be positive | 07:31 |
| T-Bone | lol | 07:31 |
| fabbione | Tripping Tomato :) | 07:31 |
| T-Bone | LOL | 07:31 |
| fabbione | as in "Tripping" when you are badly stoned :) | 07:31 |
| T-Bone | yeah i got that :) | 07:31 |
| fabbione | "Orgasmic Onion" | 07:32 |
| fabbione | THERE! | 07:32 |
| T-Bone | i love that one :) | 07:34 |
| fabbione | which one? | 07:34 |
| fabbione | i wrote a few tons :) | 07:34 |
| T-Bone | the orgasmic one, of course ;) | 07:34 |
| fabbione | lamont: what is your suggestion? | 07:35 |
| lamont | hrm... kids aren't here to ask.... | 07:35 |
| T-Bone | lol | 07:35 |
| T-Bone | kids don't read changelogs ;) | 07:35 |
| fabbione | no.. but they can make good entries for it | 07:36 |
| lamont | no, but they have really cool names, like atomic artichoke | 07:36 |
| lamont | horny horse? nah | 07:36 |
| T-Bone | lol | 07:36 |
| fabbione | didn't we agree on vegetables for hoary? | 07:36 |
| lamont | oh right, no meat | 07:36 |
| T-Bone | hmm | 07:36 |
| fabbione | we will need to find another category of food for breezy | 07:36 |
| lamont | colorful carrot? | 07:37 |
| lamont | bitchin' beet? | 07:37 |
| === lamont is rambling, not voting | ||
| === T-Bone votes for Orgasmic Onion ;) | ||
| fabbione | i think the best 3 atm are: | 07:37 |
| fabbione | "Orgasmic Onions" | 07:37 |
| fabbione | "Tripping Tomatoes" | 07:38 |
| fabbione | "Radioactive Radish" | 07:38 |
| fabbione | "Super Spinach" | 07:38 |
| fabbione | "Marvelous Marrow" | 07:38 |
| T-Bone | that's 4 | 07:38 |
| T-Bone | 5 | 07:38 |
| fabbione | meh 5 | 07:38 |
| lamont | I like R and M bets | 07:38 |
| lamont | best | 07:38 |
| === T-Bone would reduce the set to the first 3 which are (imho) very cool | ||
| === lamont votes radish | ||
| lamont | afterall, the artichoke just blew up last release... | 07:39 |
| fabbione | radish ++ | 07:39 |
| T-Bone | there you go then => Radish :) | 07:39 |
| fabbione | actually.. -29 went out with meat | 07:40 |
| fabbione | it was crispy chicken | 07:40 |
| fabbione | anyway | 07:40 |
| fabbione | Radish is | 07:40 |
| lamont | nah - chickens are the vegitables of the animal world. :-) | 07:40 |
| fabbione | ehheh | 07:40 |
| === T-Bone points lamont at some other window he's been consistently ignoring :) | ||
| fabbione | i am releasing -32 | 07:42 |
| T-Bone | you are such a bad guy ;o) | 07:42 |
| fabbione | i know :) | 07:43 |
| T-Bone | =) | 07:43 |
| === fabbione starts the baz dance | ||
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| lamont | fabbione: does that mean that the RC bits are officially out? | 07:56 |
| fabbione | pre33 is almost there :) | 07:56 |
| lamont | s/RC/so-called RC | 07:56 |
| fabbione | lamont: we can upload, so RC is closed | 07:56 |
| lamont | ah, ok | 07:56 |
| lamont | s/can upload/can upload after checking with god or his arch-angel/ | 07:56 |
| fabbione | lamont: well we have only one security fix for -32 | 07:57 |
| fabbione | and one ACPI mega urgent super grave fix | 07:57 |
| lamont | right | 07:57 |
| fabbione | pretty simple stuff | 07:57 |
| fabbione | but yes, we need mdz clearance | 07:57 |
| zul | hey T-Bone | 07:58 |
| T-Bone | hey zul | 07:58 |
| zul | how is it going | 07:58 |
| T-Bone | quite fine. 5 days of ski did some good to me :) | 07:58 |
| fabbione | -32 is on the way to jackass | 07:59 |
| zul | good | 07:59 |
| fabbione | that means that if we are lucky we will hit the next daily in 4 minutes | 07:59 |
| fabbione | T-Bone: we have a kernel meeting this evening | 07:59 |
| fabbione | at 20:00 UTC | 07:59 |
| fabbione | just that you know | 08:00 |
| T-Bone | fabbione: yeah i remember. thx for reminding me anyway :) | 08:00 |
| T-Bone | fabbione: i'll be there | 08:00 |
| fabbione | we lost the daily... | 08:00 |
| zul | hmmm? | 08:04 |
| fabbione | zul: nevermind.. it will just take 30 minutes more to see the kernel images on archive | 08:06 |
| zul | ah] | 08:08 |
| fabbione | the -pre33 is ready | 08:13 |
| fabbione | merging pre33 to experimental now... | 08:13 |
| fabbione | let see how good is baz merge :) | 08:13 |
| fabbione | ah nice bug | 08:15 |
| lamont | hrm.. gues I better go to lunch if I have to be back online in 90 min | 08:15 |
| === fabbione fires up malone | ||
| fabbione | lamont: the meeting is in 1:45 | 08:15 |
| lamont | yeah | 08:15 |
| lamont | back in a while | 08:15 |
| fabbione | sure | 08:16 |
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| zul | frigging documentation | 08:58 |
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| zul | brb | 09:28 |
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| lamont | meeting in 14 minutes | 09:45 |
| T-Gone | sigh, no time to watch an anime episode :} | 09:46 |
| zul | slacker | 09:46 |
| T-Bone | that's my surname :) | 09:47 |
| T-Bone | s/sur/middle/ | 09:47 |
| zul | i know... | 09:47 |
| zul | i was going to say something witty but i forgot | 09:48 |
| T-Bone | HA HA HA HA | 09:48 |
| T-Bone | your nastyness is eating your brain ;) | 09:48 |
| zul | yes its called documenatation | 09:48 |
| T-Bone | lol | 09:49 |
| zul | spellchecker sucks | 09:49 |
| fabbione | re | 09:51 |
| zul | heyho | 09:51 |
| fabbione | T-Slacker-Bone | 09:51 |
| T-Bone | a bit long, but that's the idea ;) | 09:52 |
| zul | that sounds dirty | 09:52 |
| zul | brb | 09:52 |
| fabbione | ehhe | 09:52 |
| T-Bone | lamont: seen what i pasted elsewhere, btw? | 09:55 |
| lamont | yeah | 09:56 |
| T-Bone | ok | 09:56 |
| zul | mmm....agua | 09:57 |
| zul | i rather have caffine though | 09:57 |
| lamont | so... ppc install... finished, reboots, hangs after telling me that it's loading the kernel... | 11:25 |
| T-Bone | lamont: imac? | 11:26 |
| lamont | iMac G3 | 11:26 |
| T-Bone | welcome to hell :) | 11:26 |
| lamont | yes, with color | 11:26 |
| T-Bone | =) | 11:26 |
| T-Bone | i have a bondi blue imac | 11:26 |
| T-Bone | i've never been able to install any linux distro on it | 11:27 |
| T-Bone | and i fought hard | 11:27 |
| zul | i blame t-bone | 11:27 |
| lamont | T-Bone: warty installed just fine, thank you | 11:27 |
| T-Bone | lamont: oh, then it's much better than what you claimed ;) | 11:27 |
| lamont | then again this go round, the CD is throwing read errors... | 11:27 |
| zul | right im going home...c ya around | 11:27 |
| T-Bone | lamont: don't use vinyls to burn an iso ;) | 11:28 |
| fabbione | lamont: i would try netboot :) | 11:28 |
| lamont | T-Bone: made it clear through the install, this is on the first reboot | 11:28 |
| lamont | fabbione: if I had a netboot image... must pester colin, or just go grab it. | 11:28 |
| fabbione | anyway i need to crash | 11:28 |
| fabbione | i am just way too tired | 11:29 |
| fabbione | cya later | 11:29 |
| lamont | later | 11:29 |
| T-Bone | malloc: ../bash/unwind_prot.c:192: assertion botched | 11:32 |
| T-Bone | malloc: block on free list clobbered | 11:32 |
| T-Bone | Aborting...make: *** [configure-stamp] Segmentation fault | 11:32 |
| T-Bone | just *sweet* | 11:32 |
| lamont | I've seen that.. | 11:33 |
| lamont | was either bash or glibc | 11:33 |
| T-Bone | that's konserve, during autoconf | 11:33 |
| lamont | you aren't being silly and running 2.6.8-SMP are you? | 11:35 |
| T-Bone | i have an interesting evolution build failure as well. Looks like build-dep aren't restrictive enough, it fails on unsatisfied configure checks | 11:35 |
| T-Bone | i am running 2.6.8.1 SMP, sure ;o) | 11:35 |
| lamont | configure check failures are normal for many packages. | 11:36 |
| T-Bone | as to me being silly, that's a matter for endless discussions ;o) | 11:36 |
| === lamont found that he got many fewer funky failures after going back to UP, declared 2.6.8.1 SMP to be unfit | ||
| T-Bone | shit | 11:36 |
| T-Bone | though it's true i had to retriger a few strangely failed packages | 11:37 |
| lamont | interestingly, I notice that I'm now runing 2.6.10-4-hppa64 | 11:37 |
| === lamont feels really brave, apt-get dist-upgrades his buildd real-root | ||
| T-Bone | lamont: i did that without much issues | 11:38 |
| lamont | yeah | 11:38 |
| T-Bone | you'll see glibc updated ;) | 11:38 |
| T-Bone | (if you use my archive, of course :) | 11:38 |
| lamont | or mine | 11:39 |
| T-Bone | tssks | 11:39 |
| lamont | my archive tends to stay current, it's just very, um, partiall | 11:39 |
| T-Bone | lol | 11:39 |
| lamont | and since I'm already fetching source, building the .debs here keeps down my bandwidth abuse... | 11:40 |
| T-Bone | well, mine should grow a bit faster, there's now two machines building | 11:40 |
| === lamont has an a500 and a b180... | ||
| T-Bone | interestingly, one is running a 2.6.11 -pa kernel | 11:40 |
| lamont | so, 1.1 machines. :-) | 11:40 |
| T-Bone | lol | 11:40 |
| T-Bone | i have a500 and l1000 both running smp | 11:40 |
| T-Bone | and soon i'll have sweet beasts to back up (j6k) | 11:40 |
| lamont | Linux b180.mmjgroup.com 2.6.10-3-hppa32 #1 Tue Feb 8 05:16:06 UTC 2005 parisc GNU/Linux | 11:41 |
| lamont | Linux smallone 2.6.10-4-hppa64 #1 Sat Mar 12 04:41:16 UTC 2005 parisc64 GNU/Linux | 11:41 |
| T-Bone | lamont: btw, did you ocmpletely drop my work on reducing the -pa patchset? :} | 11:41 |
| lamont | patch files are there, I thought. | 11:41 |
| lamont | they're there - just not used right now, because the 'slow as a dog' issues came in with the patch.. | 11:42 |
| === T-Bone notices that atlas3 takes *ages* to build on the a500 | ||
| T-Bone | lamont: huhu | 11:42 |
| lamont | 2.75 hours on sarti | 11:42 |
| T-Bone | 2h45? | 11:43 |
| T-Bone | or 3h+ ? | 11:43 |
| lamont | 2:46 actually | 11:44 |
| === T-Bone notices the build is currently somewhere in the testsuite | ||
| lamont | atlas3: 02:46:44 (14 entries, sigma 00:32:28) | 11:44 |
| lamont | so 3:15 wouldn't be surprising | 11:44 |
| T-Bone | been building for 2h50 | 11:44 |
| T-Bone | lamont: btw, i'd welcome any stat script you'd hand over... :) | 11:45 |
| === lamont tries to remember what files he needs for netboot | ||
| T-Bone | unfortunately i've never tried to netboot one of my ppc machines. I guess i'll ask you how to do that when the time comes ;) | 11:52 |
| lamont | T-Bone: heh | 11:58 |
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