[12:56] <mdke> OMG LOL
[12:56] <mdke> awesome email to the list
[01:01] <Burgundavia> ?
[01:02] <mdke> the birthday email
[01:02] <Burgundavia> yes
[01:02] <Burgundavia> is that for real?
[01:02] <mdke> i assume the guy just sent it to the whole mailbox
[01:03] <Burgundavia> I have a few of those things sitting around from other friends
[01:03] <Burgundavia> great way to get rich through advertising
[01:03] <mdke> i get ones saying "please add your contact details to this website"
[01:03] <mdke> i tell them that I'm no longer their friend
[01:04] <Burgundavia> I am eventually going to do the same thing for myself, but on my own server, as part of my own calendering system
[01:04] <mdke> you're far too organised
[01:05] <Burgundavia> yes
[01:05] <mdke> ;)
[01:05] <Burgundavia> I want to run a Hula server when it hits the repos
[03:45] <jsgotangco> hello
[03:47] <Burgundavia> salut
[03:54] <jsgotangco> hi
[04:00] <Burgundavia> hello
[04:00] <Burgundavia> hmm
[04:01] <Burgundavia> testing the various irc functions
[04:01] <Burgundavia> ctcp clientinfo didn't return anything
[04:02] <jsgotangco> maybe its because i am in a firewall?
[04:03] <Burgundavia> could be
[04:03] <Flonne> Feel free to test things on me. (irssi)
[04:03] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: I even got your mhz
[04:03] <jsgotangco> eh?
[04:04] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco- VERSION xchat 2.4.1 Linux 2.6.10-5-686 [i686/600.78MHz] 
[04:04] <jsgotangco> show it to me
[04:04] <jsgotangco> hehehe
[04:04] <jsgotangco> thats strange
[04:04] <jsgotangco> hmm
[04:04] <Burgundavia> is that real?
[04:04] <jsgotangco> oh is it because i am in battery mode?
[04:04] <Burgundavia> -Burgundavia- VERSION xchat 2.4.1 Linux 2.6.10-5-k7 [i686/2.21GHz] 
[04:04] <jsgotangco> can you try it again?
[04:04] <Burgundavia> seems to be just xchat
[04:04] <Burgundavia> same thing
[04:05] <jsgotangco> hmm i am in a Pentium M laptop
[04:05] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: you are in the phillipines right?
[04:05] <jsgotangco> yes
[04:06] <Burgundavia> clientinfo gets me nothing
[04:06] <Burgundavia> hmm
[04:07] <Burgundavia> what is XDCC list?
[04:07] <jsgotangco> dont know much bout x-chat either
[04:08] <Burgundavia> I don't know much about the general irc operation
[04:08] <Burgundavia> but I am putting myself up for #ubuntu chan op
[04:08] <Burgundavia> so I figure I had better learn
[04:09] <jsgotangco> ooohhh
[04:10] <jsgotangco> how hard could it be?
[04:10] <Burgundavia> all I really have to do is kick people
[04:11] <jsgotangco> lol
[04:11] <jsgotangco> are u familiar with po files?
[04:11] <Burgundavia> not really
[04:11] <Burgundavia> I don't speak any other languages fluently, so I haven't bothered learning
[04:12] <jsgotangco> well that's one thing to consider
[04:12] <jsgotangco> but im taking a stab on this one i just dont know if words that start with & also need to be translated like for example &conventions
[04:13] <jsgotangco> my guess is no
[04:13] <Burgundavia> no, I think those are docbook variable
[04:13] <Burgundavia> s
[04:13] <jsgotangco> i guessed the same
[04:15] <Flonne> Those are environment variables defined by the include-like statements at the top, jsgotangco.
[04:16] <jsgotangco> i see
[04:16] <Flonne> In the case of &conventions;, it should link to libs/conventions.xml (iirc), though I'm not sure if that link is to the English file or not. (You'd have to ask froud or someone else)
[04:17] <Flonne> I know DocBook, but I don't fully understand this system yet. ^^
[04:19] <jsgotangco> thanks well i dont really have to make a full scale translation but i just want to cover some basic stuff before i go deeper thats what froud recommended
[04:28] <jsgotangco> Burgy you have to start being popular then!
[04:30] <Burgundavia> ?
[04:30] <jsgotangco> to be a good op
[04:30] <jsgotangco> hehe
[05:16] <sabmoc> froud-away:: ok, thanks for the example
[05:18] <jsgotangco> hello sabmoc
[05:18] <sabmoc> jsgotangco:: hey dude :)
[05:19] <sabmoc> jsgotangco:: and how are you today?
[05:19] <jsgotangco> im good now
[05:19] <sabmoc> thats good
[05:20] <jsgotangco> i still have a bad throat though
[05:25] <jsgotangco> brb need to reboot x
[05:33] <jsgotangco> hi Liz
[05:33] <Liz> hi jsgotangco 
[05:35] <sabmoc> you hurd it hear first folks: http://69.90.152.144/collab/GoogleMapsHacking
[05:35] <jsgotangco> googlemaps on emacs sheesshh
[06:46] <jsgotangco> bbl
[08:41] <froud> African Greetings
[08:41] <Burgundavia> salut
[08:42] <Burgundavia> I am working on a one page pamphlet about ubuntu
[08:42] <froud> Burgundavia: where does it go
[08:43] <Burgundavia> nowhere yet
[08:43] <Burgundavia> I am making it for Linux Fest Northwest, which I will be going to in April
[08:43] <Burgundavia> which brings me to my point
[08:43] <froud> Oh Nice
[08:43] <Burgundavia> I need some better fonts
[08:44] <Burgundavia> do you have some good readable font suggestions?
[08:45] <jsgotangco> Verdana, Times New Roman *grin*
[08:45] <jsgotangco> ok dont mind me
[08:45] <Burgundavia> vah
[08:45] <Burgundavia> bah
[08:45] <Burgundavia> damn keyboard
[08:45] <froud> Burgundavia: for headings use Helvetica
[08:46] <froud> For body text use Bookman Old
[08:46] <Burgundavia> is that part of mstt core fonts?
[08:46] <froud> Hmmm Dunno about MS dude
[08:47] <Burgundavia> they are
[08:47] <Burgundavia> I just realized that I dont have mscore fonts installed
[08:49] <jsgotangco> hmmm i have been studying this docbook stuff but i forgot to ask where they are located in hoary? Is it a package?
[08:50] <froud> jsgotangco: yes, just search in synaptic for docbook
[08:51] <jsgotangco> how about the actual ubuntu-doc?
[08:51] <froud> what about it
[08:51] <froud> just seach for ubuntu-doc
[08:51] <jsgotangco> oh wait
[08:51] <jsgotangco> i didnt have it installed
[08:51] <jsgotangco> thats why
[08:51] <jsgotangco> *doh*
[08:57] <jeffsch> froud: I have a question about quick guide...
[08:57] <jeffsch> &conventions;
[08:57] <jeffsch> where is the text for that entity?
[09:05] <jeffsch> okay, I found it...
[09:05] <froud> jeffsch: all entities are defined in /libs/global.ent
[09:05] <jeffsch> next question: is conventions.xml frozen?
[09:06] <froud> no
[09:06] <froud> it has also not been translated
[09:07] <jeffsch> ok. Because that's where the "eample below" text is... remember the email to the list from Stephen Shirley?
[09:07] <froud> yep
[09:08] <froud> thanks for getting around to it
[09:08] <jeffsch> I only now realized it was not in quickguide.xml :(
[09:08] <jeffsch> There's something else...
[09:08] <froud> yes it's a common xml instance
[09:08] <froud> yes
[09:09] <jeffsch> When you open yelp to the front page, it has the ubuntu docs
[09:09] <jeffsch> the version is 5.4
[09:09] <jeffsch> how to fix?
[09:09] <froud> see the VERSION file
[09:10] <jeffsch> it only has the text 01
[09:11] <froud> lemme se
[09:12] <froud> you talking about quick guide now right?
[09:13] <jeffsch> yes. the VERSION file in the same folder as quickguide.xml
[09:13] <froud> the rev is only mentioned in &quickguide-rev;
[09:14] <froud> this equals Hoary Hedgehog
[09:15] <jeffsch> sorry, it's not quickguide rev that is the issue
[09:15] <jeffsch> let me rephrase...
[09:15] <froud> ok
[09:16] <jeffsch> type yelp at command line. it opens, and for quickguide desc it says "    A quick tour of the Ubuntu 5.4 "Hoary Hedgehog"
[09:16] <froud> Ah
[09:16] <jeffsch> should be 5.04
[09:18] <jeffsch> plus, it's not exactly 100% grammatically correct. I think it's missing the word "desktop"
[09:19] <froud> it is in the omf file
[09:19] <jeffsch> or at least get rid of "the"
[09:19] <froud> I will fix it
[09:19] <jeffsch> I will fix the "example below" thing
[09:19] <froud> ok
[09:20] <froud> done
[09:21] <jsgotangco> hmmm i didnt notice that till jeffsch mention it
[09:22] <froud> jsgotangco: that's why many eyes are good ;-)
[09:22] <froud> Hey must start working
[09:22] <jeffsch> is there a way to quickly search svn history to find when the "example below" was removed?
[09:22] <jsgotangco> its 5.4 hehehe
[09:23] <froud> svn log
[09:23] <jeffsch> ahhh. I redirect it to a file, and then search the file?
[09:23] <froud> no
[09:23] <froud> just run svn log filename
[09:25] <jeffsch> ok, so that gives me a list of 5 previous revs. How to easily search each one? I don't have to get each rev, do I?
[09:27] <froud> jsgotangco: svn blame filename
[09:27] <jeffsch> hmmm... maybe the example was never there in the first place. each log says that only 1 or 2 lines was changed.
[09:29] <froud> svn --help for commands
[09:29] <froud> svn --help command for help on command
[09:29] <froud> but Jeff why dont you just install eSvn
[09:29] <froud> its in Universe
[09:29] <froud> apt-get install esvn
[09:29] <froud> apt-get install esvn-doc
[09:30] <froud> needs Qt
[09:30] <froud> need subversion
[09:30] <jsgotangco> oh its a front end
[09:30] <froud> the later you have
[09:30] <jsgotangco> i will install that
[09:30] <froud> yes
[09:30] <jeffsch> ok. i will try esvn later.
[09:30] <froud> much easier for you and you can also help edit and contribute to my manua ;-)
[09:31] <jsgotangco> i will install it now
[09:31] <froud> the current version in testing is 0.6.9
[09:31] <froud> Universe may be a bit behind that
[09:32] <jsgotangco> the one in universe is 0.6.5+2-1
[09:32] <froud> but once you have it installed just use the help menu to check for new versions
[09:32] <froud> we have done lots of work on eSvn to make is user friendly
[09:32] <froud> makes life quicker
[09:33] <jeffsch> froud: for now, in conventions.xml, i will just remove mention of an example. I will not create an example.
[09:33] <froud> cool
[09:33] <froud> I think I remove dthe xref
[09:33] <froud> caus eit was breaking
[09:33] <froud> my bad
[09:34] <froud> well so I see from the blame
[09:34] <jeffsch> ahhh... now I know what blame means. hehe
[09:45] <jeffsch> ok. I committed the "example below" thing. somebody please double check my work... it's late and i'm too tired...
[09:45] <jeffsch> time for bed. cya
[09:45] <froud> thanks jeff
[09:46] <froud> checked, nice one thanks
[09:47] <froud> oh he's gone
[09:47] <froud> darn irc
[09:50] <jsgotangco> conventions.xml
[09:50] <jsgotangco> that was fast
[09:51] <froud-work> jsgotangco: I work very fast. That's how I get lots done. Not always accurate, but I do get things done ;-)
[09:51] <jsgotangco> this doc thing is really interesting
[09:51] <froud-work> jsgotangco: what do you mean doc thing?
[09:51] <jsgotangco> i mean the whole thing
[09:52] <jsgotangco> how it gets done, committed, etc
[09:52] <froud-work> you mean docbook xml and repos
[09:52] <jsgotangco> yes
[09:52] <jsgotangco> because its new to me
[09:52] <froud-work> :-) tried tested and proven over the ages
[09:53] <froud-work> but has high barrier to entry for newbie
[09:53] <froud-work> but those who stay with it have an advantage
[09:53] <jsgotangco> it does but it just needs a lot of reading
[09:53] <jsgotangco> to get familiar with it
[09:53] <froud-work> an experimentation
[09:54] <froud-work> and some help from your friends :-)
[09:54] <jsgotangco> aye
[10:21] <jsgotangco> bleah reboot x
[10:47] <Liz> bbl
[11:10] <jsgotangco> bbl
[11:46] <jsgotangco> i know what BOF means but what does Mao mean?
[11:47] <Kinnison> It's the name of a card game
[11:48] <jsgotangco> i have an agenda conference and it had a BOF at 2100 or Mao
[11:49] <Kinnison> Hmm where's this?
[11:49] <jsgotangco> Claire sent it to me
[11:49] <jsgotangco> its scary
[11:49] <jsgotangco> a day starts at 9am and ends before 10pm
[11:49] <Kinnison> Why is this scary?
[11:49] <jsgotangco> *grin*
[11:50] <jsgotangco> well it looks draining to me
[11:50] <Kinnison> Aye; but it's only a week
[11:50] <jsgotangco> it'll be my first time to participate in such so i dont know what to expect
[11:50] <Kinnison> We did 9am to 8pm for two weeks in Mataro
[11:50] <jsgotangco> eekk
[11:50] <Kinnison> This time will be more intense but shorter
[11:50] <Kinnison> If you want to know a little more about Mao: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CambridgeStandard5CardMao
[11:51] <jsgotangco> were playing cards?
[11:51] <Kinnison> Oh yes :-)
[11:52] <jsgotangco> ok i will read it since i dont get the logic of it at the moment
[11:54] <Burgundavia> bah
[11:54] <Burgundavia> no Mao for corey
[11:54] <Burgundavia> he will be doing a presentation on Ubuntu a month yesterday
[11:55] <jsgotangco> i still dont get it ill google for Mao
[11:55] <Burgundavia> *grin*
[11:56] <Kinnison> jsgotangco: Don't bother. Everything you find will be wrong or misleading
[11:56] <Kinnison> Burgundavia: feh
[11:57] <jsgotangco> ok it seems to be like a game of never ending rules
[11:58] <jsgotangco> or game where nobody knows the rules for starters but end up knowing the rules blah
[12:00] <Kinnison> jsgotangco: every played uno?
[12:00] <Kinnison> gah, why do I always typo 'ever' as 'every' ?
[12:01] <jsgotangco> yes
[12:01] <Burgundavia_> bah
[12:01] <Burgundavia_> kicked my power out
[12:01] <Burgundavia_> anyway, that googling for Mao stuff working for you?
[12:03] <jsgotangco> no
[12:03] <Kinnison> jsgotangco: Mao is effectively Uno for adult crack heads
[12:03] <jsgotangco> it doesnt make sense to me at the moment
[12:03] <Burgundavia_> Mao is fun
[12:04] <jsgotangco> well i can imagine myself getting kicked at it at the start
[12:04] <Kinnison> all mao virgins have issues during their first game or two
[12:04] <Kinnison> Except Mark Shuttleworth
[12:04] <Burgundavia_> "We are playing Cambridge Standard 5 Card Mao. The only thing I am allowed to tell you is that any card not found in a standard 52 card is a nine of diamonds"
[12:04] <Kinnison> who kicked arse
[12:05] <Burgundavia_> a spare
[12:05] <Kinnison> Burgundavia: have you checked out the wiki page for mao recently?
[12:05] <Burgundavia_> bloody hell
[12:05] <Burgundavia_> my fonts have come completely sidewise
[12:05] <Burgundavia_> no
[12:05] <Burgundavia_> gmail now looks like ass
[12:05] <Burgundavia_> mark is also crazy
[12:08] <Burgundavia_> I know what it is
[12:08] <Burgundavia_> I install mscore fonts
[12:08] <Burgundavia_> and gmail wants to use one of them
[12:10] <jsgotangco> heh
[12:11] <Burgundavia_> damn it
[12:11] <Burgundavia_> oh
[12:11] <Burgundavia_> brb
[12:12] <jsgotangco> the more i read about it the more it gets confusing it would be much better if i participate in mao i guess
[12:13] <Kinnison> Yep
[12:13] <Burgundavia> part of the game is that you learn as you go
[12:13] <Kinnison> Participation is the key
[12:13] <Burgundavia> and you will fall on your ass the 1st couple of games
[12:13] <Burgundavia> hey!
[12:14] <Kinnison> burgey: s'a cute ass to fall on anyway
[12:23] <jsgotangco> bleah im going home see you guys later
[12:24] <Burgundavia> cya
[01:40] <mdke> morning all
[01:41] <mdke> actually its not even morning now
[01:45] <EricNeon> hoho
[01:46] <EricNeon> this is evening
[02:38] <mdke> hi froud_ abelli Liz 
[02:39] <Liz> hiya
[02:39] <abelli> Liz: ciaoooo
[02:40] <Liz> ciao abelli 
[02:40] <abelli> Liz: how is life?
[02:49] <Liz> oh good t hanks..tiring tho..
[02:50] <Liz> hows yours?...
[02:50] <Liz> sorry, was in another virtual window
[02:52] <abelli> no probs. im ok thank you
[03:21] <Liz> rightio..im off to do some updates
[03:21] <Liz> nite all
[05:12] <mdke> anyone home
[05:13] <mdke> froud_, ping
[05:14] <mdke> in my .po file, when I come across something like <guibutton>Reload</guibutton>, is it ok to translate the "Reload" bit?
[05:18] <froud_> mdke: yes you must translate it
[05:18] <mdke> froud_, great
[05:19] <mdke> i was worried it might break the link or something
[05:19] <froud_> what link? there is no link
[05:19] <mdke> yeah
[05:19] <mdke> but i thought i'd ask just in case
[05:19] <froud_> Just dont translate entities
[05:19] <froud_> thinks like &something;
[05:19] <mdke> ok
[05:20] <mdke> and presumably also things like <guibutton>
[05:20] <froud_> dont translate the content of elements
[05:20] <mdke> can you give me an example?
[05:20] <mdke> these technical terms...
[05:21] <froud_> sure any words written by a person can be translated, any thing pertaining to markup leave alone :-)
[05:21] <mdke> right
[05:21] <mdke> so something like <Guibutton>Ricarica</Guibutton> would do for the example I gave above
[05:21] <froud_> btw I got this gem from KDE today about po file http://i18n.kde.org/translation-howto/doc-translation.html
[05:22] <mdke> will check it out thanks
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[05:22] <mdke> cool
[05:22] <mdke> thanks froud_ 
[05:22] <froud_> I think I like the kde method for po file management better
[05:23] <froud_> it is more granular and easier to control
[05:23] <mdke> i don't understand enough to have an opinion
[05:23] <mdke> whatever is good for you guys
[05:23] <froud_> mdke: you are one of us 'guys'
[05:24] <froud_> so you must like it too
[05:24] <froud_> or must not
[05:24] <froud_> depending on your preference
[05:24] <mdke> froud_, :)
[05:24] <mdke> but i seriously don't understand the technical side of the work yet
[05:24] <froud_> but basically we must choose one method, the kde way or the gnome way
[05:24] <mdke> hmm
[05:24] <froud_> the two are not compatible
[05:24] <mdke> hmm
[05:25] <mdke> will the gnome way work for kubuntu and vice versa?
[05:25] <froud_> I know crazy you would think a standard like i18n would be handled in a standard way.... high hopes
[05:25] <mdke> ideally it would be best to have one method for both ubuntu and kubuntu docs i guess
[05:25] <froud_> for k/ubuntu we need to choose one way or the other
[05:25] <mdke> right
[05:25] <froud_> yes, I like the kde method
[05:26] <mdke> it will work ok with gnome/yelp?
[05:26] <froud_> yes the resulting xml file works in yelp
[05:26] <mdke> ok
[05:26] <mdke> well i guess just voice it with the list, and those who know about these things will comment
[05:26] <froud_> the question is not the end results imho it is th eprocess and how to control it
[05:26] <mdke> yeah i c
[05:27] <froud_> well I am off to lectures now. 3 hours of hell
[05:27] <mdke> you lecture or you listen to lectures?
[05:27] <froud_> this time I am listening
[05:27] <mdke> heh
[05:27] <mdke> ok have fun!
[05:28] <froud_> chow
[10:09] <froud_> ignorance, yes, but what is UDU?
[10:10] <claude> the new Wiki, I suppose
[10:10] <claude> but don't know where to find it
[10:11] <claude> no...
[10:11] <claude> Ubuntu Down Under
[10:11] <froud_> Uh huh
[10:11] <claude> that's Ubuntu meeting
[10:12] <claude> maybe Mark will invite us :-)
[10:13] <claude> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuDownUnder
[10:14] <froud_> claude: thanks
[10:14] <froud_> claude: what do you think about using the KDE method for managing translations
[10:14] <froud_> http://i18n.kde.org/translation-howto/doc-translation.html
[10:15] <claude> i must figure out first what gnome method is :)
[10:15] <mdke> you should definitely post it to the list froud_ 
[10:15] <froud_> The gnome method is documented in the cvs source of xml2po
[10:15] <froud_> but it is still fraught with bugs
[10:16] <froud_> the kde method is more stable imho and better from a management perspective
[10:16] <froud_> give the method on that page a run and see what I mean
[10:17] <claude> i need some time to investigate
[10:34] <froud_> claude: one thing I am not sure of 
[10:34] <froud_> claude: we already have one translated po file
[10:35] <froud_> in the kde doc it says
[10:35] <froud_> Break-up of the translated documentation into msgstrs into a PO file:
[10:35] <froud_> split2po ENGLISH.xml TRANSLATED.xml >TRANSLATED.po
[10:35] <froud_> msgmerge -o TRANSLATED.po TRANSLATED.po ENGLISH.pot
[10:36] <claude> what are you trying to do ?
[10:37] <froud_> trying to run the kde method from where we are now
[10:37] <froud_> our state is we have a po file
[10:37] <froud_> we got it cause I made a pot file with xml2pot
[10:37] <froud_> and some kind sole created a po
[10:37] <claude> the xml generation uses po2xml
[10:38] <mdke> has do you go from pot to po file?
[10:38] <mdke> i've just been renaming
[10:38] <froud_> has to go po-fr to xml-fr
[10:38] <claude> see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocteamStepByStepl18n
[10:38] <claude> 4.
[10:39] <claude> see also Makefile
[10:40] <claude> or better rebuild-xml-from-po
[10:40] <claude> (used in make trans)
[10:40] <froud_> ah ha, I c said the blind man to the deaf mute
[10:40] <claude> lol
[10:40] <froud_> ok I now have fr xml
[10:41] <claude> i hope now that this xml file will be available to French users
[10:41] <froud_> now i will add it to svn
[10:42] <froud_> claude: ak next step
[10:42] <claude> mmh, yes, yes, yes
[10:42] <froud_> lets say we have an update to about-ubuntu.xml (english)
[10:43] <claude> he he...
[10:43] <froud_> how t merge the changes only to about-ubuntu-fr.po
[10:43] <claude> there is a method, wait...
[10:45] <claude> msgmerge is the way
[10:45] <froud_> ok yes I saw that document
[10:45] <froud_> hmm fr version looks good under yelp
[10:46] <claude> but this need still much scripting :(
[10:46] <claude> to automate
[10:46] <claude> lol
[10:48] <froud_> ok release notes and about both speak french now
[10:48] <froud_> well in svn at least
[10:48] <froud_> claude: do you have a working copy
[10:49] <mdke> what are those strange symbols in the titles of the documents when viewed with yelp?
[10:49] <froud_> symbols, I see no symbols
[10:49] <mdke> hmm
[10:49] <froud_> hold lemme check on another box
[10:50] <mdke> in the release notes for example, i get "1.[weird box with 20 02}Introduction
[10:50] <mdke> 2. [weird box]  What's New
[10:50] <mdke> etc
[10:51] <claude> french or english or both ?
[10:51] <mdke> both
[10:51] <mdke> as if there are some characters that my system doesn't read
[10:52] <froud_> no no miseure you are mistaken there are no simbols to speak of
[10:52] <mdke> screenie?
[10:52] <froud_> I have check it on gentoo, ubuntu, suse and mdk
[10:52] <froud_> Hmm screenie
[10:52] <mdke> i'll do one of mine i mean
[10:54] <mdke> http://mdke.mine.nu/images/yelp.png <--clikkkk
[10:54] <claude> ma che passa :)
[10:55] <mdke> that is from the packaged docs btw
[10:55] <mdke> but its the same in svn
[10:56] <claude> mdke: we have the same wallpaper, that's funny !
[10:57] <mdke> heh
[10:57] <mdke> there's not many wallpapers packaged ;)
[10:57] <claude> mine was not packaged on Warty
[10:57] <mdke> oh
[10:57] <froud> http://www.inwords.co.za/kubuntu/Screenshot.png
[10:57] <froud> walla
[10:58] <claude> i found it on Gnome artwork
[10:58] <mdke> claude, gotcha
[10:58] <mdke> froud, so what's wrong with mineeeeeeee /winges
[10:58] <mdke> s/winges/whinges
[10:59] <froud> I dunno msr
[10:59] <froud> claude: you c what mkde sees
[11:00] <claude> yes, no idea :(
[11:00] <froud> mdke: did you svn up and use the copy I have just added
[11:00] <froud> claude: you too
[11:00] <mdke> froud, its not just the french
[11:00] <mdke> its the english xml too
[11:00] <claude> froud: no for me it's ok
[11:00] <mdke> both in svn and local
[11:00] <froud> mdke: you been abusing your box
[11:00] <mdke> must be some font i'm missing or something
[11:00] <claude> mdke: you're in Hoary?
[11:00] <mdke> yeah
[11:01] <claude> maybe some utf-8 bug in Hoary and yelp...
[11:01] <claude> i'm still on warty
[11:01] <mdke> froud, aw come off it
[11:01] <froud> I is on hoary
[11:02] <froud> mdke: that would help
[11:02] <froud> I have both ubuntu and kubuntu desktops
[11:02] <mdke> yeah that would solve it i'm sure
[11:03] <froud> but is good on gentoo, suse and mdk too
[11:03] <mdke> but it would also bring in a load of stuff
[11:03] <mdke> froud, i believe you!!!
[11:04] <mdke> ok i'll install ubuntu-desktop
[11:04] <froud> no simbole on FC
[11:04] <mdke> but i'm not happy about it ;)
[11:04] <mdke> might as well install ubuntu-base while i'm at it
[11:05] <mdke> double my boot time
[11:05] <mdke> ouch 74 new packages
[11:05] <froud> bring them on!
[11:05] <mdke> heh
[11:05] <mdke> my poor harddrive
[11:06] <mdke> anyway, the italian ones should be along shortly
[11:06] <mdke> i've sent both aboutubuntu and releasenotes for correction
[11:06] <mdke> call it saturday
[11:07] <claude> i have launch quickguide in french
[11:07] <froud> oh cool enrico will love that when he gets back
[11:07] <mdke> nice one
[11:07] <mdke> claude, any sign of rosetta?
[11:07] <claude> can wait on Rosetta :(
[11:07] <claude> s/can/can't/
[11:07] <froud> I am waiting for some african langs from the uni here
[11:08] <mdke> awesome
[11:08] <froud> I think Afrikaans and maybe isiZulu
[11:08] <mdke> great
[11:08] <claude> great, but we'll need to create a good translation processes and scripts
[11:09] <mdke> for breezy
[11:09] <mdke> or for hoary?
[11:09] <froud> enrico will do the packaging
[11:09] <claude> too late for hoary IMHO
[11:09] <froud> yep I am working toward next release
[11:10] <mdke> ok cool
[11:10] <mdke> same applies to translation process
[11:11] <mdke> lol
[11:11] <mdke> yay for froud 
[11:11] <mdke> get on it
[11:11] <froud> thanks goodness the 3 wee ones are in bed ;-)
[11:12] <mdke> :)
[11:15] <froud> claude: where to find a list of std lang acronyms
[11:16] <claude> aren't you in bed :)
[11:16] <mdke> heh
[11:16] <froud> mrs makes it warm first
[11:16] <claude> lol
[11:16] <mdke> froud has the ideal life
[11:16] <mdke> damn him
[11:16] <mdke> except he uses kde
[11:17] <froud> come to africa
[11:17] <froud>  .... and kde
[11:17] <claude> ok for africa !
[11:17] <mdke> is froud invited us?
[11:17] <mdke> s/invited/inviting
[11:18] <froud> you are welcome I have a spare flat upstairs
[11:18] <froud> double bed if you to dont mind sharing
[11:18] <claude> hum...
[11:18] <claude> i'll come with my familiy too !
[11:18] <froud> I know Kinnison wont mind
[11:18] <mdke> LOL
[11:19] <claude> 6 in a double bed
[11:19] <froud> Oooo sound slike fun
[11:19] <mdke> you all have families
[11:19] <mdke> bah
[11:19] <froud> yep
[11:19] <froud> married 13 years
[11:19] <froud> and happy with it
[11:19] <mdke> :)
[11:19] <froud> nearing 40
[11:19] <froud> ouch 
[11:19] <mdke> lol
[11:19] <mdke> 23
[11:19] <claude> same for me, also 13 years, funny tonight !
[11:20] <claude> 13 years marriage, of course...
[11:20] <froud> claude: and would not chang eit for the world right?
[11:21] <claude> right
[11:21] <mdke> i need to get on this
[11:21] <claude> froud: you asked this ? http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/IG/ert/iso639.htm
[11:22] <froud> eh some hav ethree letters
[11:23] <froud> what to do when lang only has three letters
[11:23] <claude> it's iso 639-2
[11:24] <claude> see the bottom of page for 2 letters codes
[11:24] <claude> 639-1
[11:25] <froud> ok guys this time its real I am off. The bed is warm by now
[11:25] <froud> bye
[11:25] <mdke> night
[11:25] <claude> ok, for me too, please to mett you
[11:25] <claude> meet
[11:25] <mdke> bye claude 
[11:25] <claude> bye
[11:27] <mdke> hi sivang