[12:02] apt-get.org gives me the fear [12:02] merging apt-get.org into ubuntu makes me cry. lots. [12:04] what's the consensus on that? is the stuff going into a seperate repos until we can QA approve each package for universe? [12:05] schweeb: it's going directly in universe/multiverse [12:05] i'm building/testing each package [12:05] what does FTBFS mean? [12:06] fail to build from source [12:06] Amaranth: fails to build from ... yeah [12:06] ah [12:07] $ wtf ftbfs [12:07] Gee... I don't know what ftbfs means... [12:07] we need to patch that :P === dredg goes poking at the ipv6 packages from apt-get.org [12:09] er, openssh does ipv6 fine... [12:10] koke: -) [12:11] and urgh :( native packages [12:11] bad bad bad [12:11] dredg: all over the place [12:11] Need to get 140Mb of source. [12:11] for _what_? [12:11] not sure yet === Kaloz [~kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:11] debian.speedblue.org [12:12] ah that cross compiler stuff [12:12] oh so very bong [12:12] chucked it out already [12:13] dbishell successful :) [12:13] dredg: grats [12:14] Well later folks, guess I had better go home and install Ubuntu now.. :-) [12:14] bddebian: nite. [12:14] bddebian: good night [12:14] yeah! [12:15] :-) [12:17] he'll be bdubuntu soon ;-p === diamond grins [12:18] ho... 722M /var/cache/pbuilder/result/ - time for a cleanup [12:19] heh [12:20] nice [12:20] I just removed all of my Stargate Atlantis eps so i actually have somd HDD space [12:21] 10M /var/cache/pbuilder/result/ [12:21] hehe [12:22] aArgh!!! malone is bugggyyy :/ the links in the bug list are done with ?!?! [12:23] I *NEED* to open link in tabs [12:27] jbailey: do you guys already know when you'll have a ant package round in ubuntu? [12:29] dholbach: I think it went in yesterday. [12:29] jbailey: just because i'm currently experiencing the delights of building apt-get.org on my box and some packages have the urging demand for ant - i leave those packages as "FTBFS (Java)", alright? [12:29] oh [12:30] but surely still needs elmo approval [12:30] May have been the day before. wasabi was excited about it. =) === ajmitch_ cries [12:30] alright [12:30] got to install subversion on a RHEL-alike box [12:30] i'll get back to those packages later [12:30] ajmitch_: One word: debtakeover. [12:30] I don't like RH stuff that much :) [12:30] hehe [12:31] we're considering ubuntu when a new server goes in [12:31] bah [12:31] yeah! [12:31] I hate ant. [12:31] dholbach: Are thye packages that just blindly use ant? [12:31] :(( [12:31] Like assuming that package name, or what's the bug? [12:31] I thought that Jerry's packages were somewhat compatible with the old Debian way of doing things. [12:31] jbailey: i review them briefly, try to build them, some have it in the build-depends === ajmitch_ wonders if it is safe to install the svn packages.. :) [12:32] jbailey: i update the pbuilder chroot to be sure [12:32] ajmitch_: in Ubuntu? sure [12:33] jbailey: forget what i said... thanks for the info [12:33] ah now it wants libbatik-java [12:33] schweeb: nah, centos, a RHEL3 rebuild :( [12:33] hrm [12:34] well, i'll leave those tagged as FTBFS (Java) still [12:43] hum. oregano is fixed in debian's next version, [12:44] i.e., we're on oregano_0.40.0-2, they're up to -3 [12:44] is it ok to pull in their changes? [12:44] think you gotta ask elmo to sync it [12:45] ee. k [12:45] diamond: set it on wiki/MOTUToSync so we don't forget [12:45] ..., please :-) [12:45] dholbach: sure === motaboy [~motaboy@host60-41.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Riddell high fives motaboy === koke looking for uploader... [12:51] koke: which one? [12:52] d4x [12:52] it has been waiting for 3 days but I can't upload yet :( [12:52] i'd offer but i'm not sure of upload procedure for other people [12:52] it's not on your site [12:52] dredg: go ahead [12:53] dredg: debuild -S (-sa if new source) -k [12:53] dholbach: uploading.... [12:53] ah, excellent [12:53] dholbach: cheers [12:53] dredg: http://www.amedias.org/~koke/debian/hoary/ [12:53] diamond: has a bunch of things done which i'll happily upload also [12:54] i've reviewed some, i'd prefer if someone else took a glance at them as well though [12:55] *grmbl* build-depends on emacs21 [12:55] happy downloading *again* [12:55] dholbach: are you on dialup? [12:55] dredg: no, but i'm just downloading [12:55] emacs is huge no matter what internet you're using :) [12:55] didnt do anything else tonight :-) [12:56] s/huge/wrong/ [12:57] s/internet// [12:57] :) [12:58] dredg: s/you're using// [12:58] for completeness' sake -) [12:58] indeed === Jerub [~gideon@jerub.user] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:58] emacs needs to branch into its own OS :) [01:00] schweeb: as they say, emacs would make a decent os, if only it had a good text editor [01:00] heh [01:19] elmo seems to be there [01:19] request your syncs... now :-) [01:19] ok pals, i'm off to bed [01:20] good night [01:21] night === bradb [~bradb@modemcable087.14-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] dredg: have you uploaded d4x?? [01:30] koke: sorry, yes [01:30] distracted by something else [01:30] Subject: d4x_2.5.0rel-1ubuntu1_source.changes REJECTED [01:30] have you received that mail? [01:31] no [01:31] does it detail in the message why it's rejected? [01:31] schweeb: yep [01:31] Rejected: The key (0xBCD5AD90793F6B02) used to sign d4x_2.5.0rel-1ubuntu1.dsc wasn't found in the keyring(s). [01:31] and also md5 sums don't match [01:32] whose key is that? yours? apparently elmo doesn't have it in the keyring yet [01:32] schweeb: I know :) but dredg has uploaded it, not me [01:33] and you'll have to regenerate your source if the md5sums don't match [01:33] sorry, first upload for someone else [01:33] that's bad juju [01:33] completely unsure of procedure [01:33] pub 1024D/793F6B02 2003-11-01 Jorge Bernal (Koke) [01:33] it seems it's mine [01:33] Checking Signature on .dsc [01:33] gpg: Signature made Fri 01 Apr 2005 00:10:03 IST using DSA key ID CB6E5CF7 [01:33] dredg: pretty sure dholbach always signs whatever I give him with his [01:34] i signed using CB6E5CF7. that's my key [01:34] that's the output from dput [01:35] I've tried to upload it before, but that should have been "silently ignored" or accepted [01:38] well, invalid key plus the md5sum mismatch probably generated the email... invalid key alone is silently ignored [01:38] right [01:38] lets try this again :) [01:39] niall@malkovich:~/dev/d4x(0)$ gpg d4x_2.5.0rel-1ubuntu1.dsc [01:39] gpg: d4x_2.5.0rel-1ubuntu1.dsc: unknown suffix [01:39] Enter new filename: /tmp/ss [01:39] gpg: Signature made Fri 01 Apr 2005 00:38:16 IST using DSA key ID CB6E5CF7 [01:39] dredg, never upload a package twice [01:39] ogra: ag, yes [01:39] dredg, you need to bump the version number [01:39] ogra: well, it wasn't accepted? [01:40] yep, anyway....if elmo doesnt take it away and you dont bump the version it wont work... === ajmitch__ [~ajmitch@port163-21.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] ogra: right [01:40] koke: gonna bump the version [01:40] dredg: I'm not sure if is so urgent ;) === Cimmerian [~crom@80.203.113.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] koke: actually, you know what [01:40] i'm gonna hold off til tomorrow [01:41] elmo is quite away now [01:41] i'll get elmo to nuke what's there and i'll poke dholbach for the actual howto :) [01:41] "travelling back to Leeds - offline for several hours" [01:41] yes. he won't be back for some time [01:41] dredg: yeah, a wiki page for uploaders :) [01:42] dredg: do you know how much time?? [01:42] dredg, you normally only have to run: debsign -myour.maintainer@address.com blah_0.1.2-0ubuntu1.dsc [01:43] koke: i'll be around for around 9am tomorrow morning (UTC+1) [01:43] then it asks for your passphrase twice and youre done... [01:43] elmo is in the same timezone [01:43] ogra: ah, ok. that seems v. straightforward [01:44] dredg: if you see elmo before me, please remember him my key :P [01:44] i'll prod him gently [01:44] :D [01:44] thanks [01:45] was about to ask actually, you should be cleared to upload stuff at this stage [01:45] koke: have you prodded mako to have him send elmo the key? [01:45] mako's been pretty busy the last couple days, hence his lag in sending the key [01:45] schweeb: mako told me elmo already has the key [01:45] ah [01:45] so I'm just a step away [01:46] just after a week ;-) [01:46] heh, took me long enough too [01:47] it was acknowledged by elmo but didn't work. then i pinged him by mail and it started working after a day or 2 === Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S01060011090228cc.du.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke sleep() [02:44] bye [02:44] nite === thierry_ [~t@modemcable218.142-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_ [~ajmitch@port163-21.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] woot. glunarclock fixed. === schweeb tries to decide how to be productive today === Och [~Och@200.77.116.111] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] mm [03:52] XFce fun === Och [~Och@200.77.116.111] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === tseng [~tseng@thegrebs.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] jbailey around? [04:45] nn all [04:45] ni dredg === geppy [~geppy@c-67-162-233-164.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ajmitch_ is ready to kill svn or something === jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:23] tseng: Am now. [05:23] hm nm [05:23] i had to go back to the old rules file anyway [05:24] i was trying vainly to make mono cdbs, but its too custom [05:24] not worth it. [05:24] tseng: Well, if there's anything you think that could be done about it with cdbs2, lemme know. [05:25] im realizing there is alot of debhelper that i still dont know enough about [05:27] jbailey: basically its calling dh_gencontrol with custom args smack in the middle of a function [05:27] jbailey: i wanted to edit that bit w/o overriding the whole thing [05:27] This is what you want, or this is what cdbs it doing wrong? [05:27] thats my ideal situation [05:27] but it sounds tricky [05:27] Sometime when I'm really drunk, I'll get you to explain to me why. [05:27] k [05:28] its doing custom version munging [05:28] and passing it to dh_gencontrol === diamond groans. package with function name that conflicts with glib function name [05:37] nasty [05:37] guess how many times i have to change it, to be consistent? [05:37] 116 [05:37] > 50 [05:37] ouch [05:38] if it doesn't build now, i'm gonna be very upset [05:38] woo. it builds. -) [05:38] yay [05:38] svn is being crap [05:38] hahahahhahaha [05:38] hahaha [05:38] works with my sid box as server,not with that other box... [05:39] schweeb? [05:39] go to http://planet.gnome.org and http://www.kdeplanet.org [05:39] then realize what date it is :) [05:39] :) === ajmitch_ makes note to avoid slashdot more than usual [05:45] speak of the april's fool devil. [05:46] heh [05:47] that was a particularly boring one [05:47] next thing you know a sarge release date will be announced.. [05:47] hah === ajmitch_ ought to send in his DPL vote === diamond slaps forehead [05:50] ajmitch_: anyone but Branden please [05:50] c'mon freenods. at least do it right. -) [05:50] you want johnathon walther? :) [05:50] dunno much about him [05:51] but I'm not a real fan of Branden [05:51] Matthew Garrett seems to be pretty good [05:51] sure, we need to vote in the ubuntu cabal ;) === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:57] er. yes, freenode. [05:58] now if only lilo would stop spamming us all... [05:59] i think he has stopped or ill take a baseball/cricket/rounders bat to his cranium === diamond grins [06:04] wow [06:04] lilo is a giant douche. [06:05] nice. [06:05] look at his hostmask. [06:05] he changed it to oftc. [06:06] @_@ [06:06] schweeb: you learn quick ;) [06:07] zul: I've known about lilo for over a year now, heh [06:07] I think I figured out he was a moron the time I got the wall msg "attention everyone, I am eating a sandwich, it is good. that is all" [06:08] lol [06:08] that was around the same time I was hanging out in #debian, and finding out mwilson is a giant douche as well [06:09] I hear he's calmed down lately though. [06:10] heh. I put him on ignore years ago. [06:10] schweeb: never heard of him [06:10] zul: basically, n00bs would join #debian, thinking people are friendly. then mwilson flamed the hell out of them [06:11] then they quit. [06:11] heh [06:11] and most likely went to another distro. [06:11] #gentoo-dev is moderated so users cant talk to developers [06:12] well [06:12] it's nice having an open development process all around [06:12] so anyone without a voice or an op cant say anything === diamond groans [06:13] makes the barrier to becoming a developer higher [06:13] it wasnt anything special [06:13] anyone who has a clue can become one if you pass a quix [06:13] quiz [06:14] anyways [06:14] ah === crimsun chips away at MOTUXfce [06:19] my goal is to have all those packages fixed, uploaded, and built 12 hours after elmo began syncing [06:23] right. 8 packages ready for review. that makes me ready for some sleep. nite folks [06:24] good work! [06:24] night === diamond waves tiredly and disappears === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.166.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:33] Hello... [07:33] hey tritium :) [07:33] how are you, crimsun? [07:36] not bad, yourself? [07:36] ripping as fast as I can through these Xfce packages [07:36] not bad, thanks. Just got back from Indy. [07:37] cool, how was it? [07:37] It was great. We saw the Pacers vs. Heat. Game went to overtime, Pacers won. [07:39] nice === pe7er [~losof@pD9E2DDA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:04] bbl [08:05] see you === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch__ [~ajmitch@port163-21.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] hi ajmitch :) === schweeb beats his Dell i8200 with a smelly old trout [09:02] schweeb, what's going on with it? [09:02] it's pretty sweet when your trackpad moves the cursor to one corner of the screen and it gets stuck there for a minute. [09:03] oh boy [09:03] oh joy [09:03] it just sent to the opposite corner [09:04] heh, and here I am running Dell diagnostics on my Latitude C840 [09:04] and now it works again [09:04] I'm never buying another Dell [09:04] nor am I [09:05] but so far, none of the hardware tests have failed. I guess I just really hosed up my filesystem badly. [09:05] if I had purchasing power over our servers, I'd probably choose HP at this point... and Fujitsu or IBM (or whoever took over IBM laptops) for my laptopo [09:05] and workstations, of course, gotta build those :) [09:06] okay, bedtime [09:06] good night [09:06] night === dholbach [~daniel@td9091c0e.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~Burgundav@24.68.136.214] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:12] hey [09:12] you say hi, I say goodbye [09:12] good night schweeb then [09:13] Hi dholbach :) [09:13] dholbach: hint of the day - consider looking at the date before you read any news sites [09:13] hey tritium [09:14] schweeb: oh thanks... i'll bear it in mind [09:14] diamond was quite busy :-) [09:14] and I give my final goodnight now, time for sleep for real [09:14] and crimsun as well :-) [09:14] *wave after schweeb* [09:14] bye schweeb [09:14] tritium: you're still awake :_) [09:14] tritium: how was the match? [09:14] dholbach, yes, running diagnostics on my disk [09:15] dholbach, it was great. a 3-point shot in the closing seconds took the game to overtime. === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:15] WOW [09:15] How was your night? [09:15] very silent... :-) [09:15] started rebuilding apt-get.org [09:16] erm... building [09:16] Wow. [09:16] All my hardware diagnostics are passing. I guess I really messed up my filesystem... [09:16] maybe my little laptop can't handle all the pbuilding ;) [09:17] unfortunately i'm no expert for filesystems - i guess i'm just good enough at hollering [09:17] :) [09:18] oh now... i understood schweeb's hint of the day :-) [09:18] dholbach, can I take another look at your report draft? [09:18] hahaha.... <---isnt awake yet [09:18] heh :) [09:18] moz.gotdns.org/ubuntu/motu-report [09:18] gracias [09:20] I'm happy with it. === ajmitch didn't really do anything at all this month [09:21] ajmitch, I sent you a request earlier. I'm not sure if you saw it. [09:22] yes, I saw it [09:22] ajmitch: oh don't beat yourself up... you know it's not true === ajmitch had work from ~8am-6pm today :) [09:22] ajmitch, okay. Just checking. I hope it's not a bother to you. [09:23] dholbach: close enough, days like today are why I haven't [09:23] don't beat yourself up :-) [09:24] tritium: I can try, perhaps tomorrow (for me) [09:25] ajmitch, thank you very much. I'll understand if work keeps you too busy. [09:29] tritium: looking at gourmet [09:30] dholbach, wow, thanks! [09:30] 0ubuntu0 -> 0ubuntu1 [09:30] I will fix that... [09:31] it's because a possible debian -1 could supersede ours and we were able to sync theirs [09:31] I'm not sure why I did that...I know better. [09:32] in control, you should drop the universe/ from what i see (section) [09:33] ok === encolpe [~encolpe@81.56.211.189] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:34] you used cdbs-edit-patch? [09:34] no, why do you ask? [09:34] I used simple-patchsys [09:35] just so [09:35] i saw you used cdbs and simple-patchsys [09:35] cdbs-edit-patch would have been easy to use [09:35] I'm not familiar with that. [09:35] it's charmingly easy [09:35] cool, I'll research it [09:35] if you made the rules file use simple-patchsys and cdbs [09:36] you just go cdbs-edit-patch 01-patch-to-make-it-rock-again [09:36] and you have kind of a subshell in which you can work on the patch [09:36] then you go ctrl-d [09:36] interesting [09:36] and the patch is done [09:37] this is the package where upstream has a debian directory for building his own binary .debs that he releases [09:37] I should probably split it out as ogra suggested [09:37] dunno how [09:37] remove it from the tarball? [09:38] not exactly sure, but I was planning on talking with upstream author about it [09:38] yeah... it's not neat having it in, but i think integrity of the upstream release is more important [09:38] perhaps convince him to let me provide the debian directory stuff if the package gets approved for universe === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-035-184.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:39] if they release crack, people should see that [09:39] I'm flexible. ogra suggested it, so I thought I'd try it [09:39] upstream simply shouldnt have that kind of stuff in [09:39] reading diff.gz is horrible [09:40] upstream had all kinds of .ex files in debian dir that he hadn't even touched. [09:40] i can imagine [09:42] tritium: that's one of the reasons why having upstream provide packaging is bad. They tend to do a bad job at it. [09:42] that's the best you can convince them of [09:43] Mithrandir, I agree [09:44] morning Mithrandir, morning doko :-) [09:44] hi dholbach === Mithrandir walks off for breakfast. [09:44] sometimes you get lucky & have cvs/svn write access to upstream anyway === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:45] ajmitch: sometimes, you get unluck and become upstream. ;) [09:45] hehe [09:45] unfortunately :) [09:46] tritium: rm debian/*.{EX,ex} :-) === encolpe [~encolpe@81.56.211.189] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [09:47] dholbach, :) === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-035-184.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:47] remove usr/sbin from dirs === d3vic3 [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] morning d3vic3 [09:49] morning dholbach [09:49] tritium: you can just remove the stuff, you shouldnt need a patch for it (patches/debian.patch) [09:50] dholbach, I tried that, but it doesn't work. When the diff gets made, it ignores deleted files, and they end up back in the package again. [09:50] arg [09:50] yes [09:50] *shudder* [09:51] yes... understood [09:51] So I tried to work around it that way. Probably not the most elegant solution, but I didn't know what else to do. === ajmitch kindly requested upstream to remove the debian/ dir from the tarball [09:52] ajmitch, did it work? [09:52] tritium: but the program itself looks nice :-) [09:52] sure [09:52] dholbach: morning [09:52] dholbach, thanks [09:52] if i was more into documenting recipes... :_) [09:52] :-) [09:52] recipes seem to be quite the rage on planet.debian.net [09:53] at least for a while there [09:53] yeah... :-) [09:54] well, my wife asked me to install that software, so I just decided to package them [09:55] heh === ajmitch never has that motivation for packaging :) [09:55]