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delire_odo: how far does it get? is this warty or hoary?12:00
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alvaroit only has New Window, New Folder, Folder, Import Photos, Write to CD, Close12:00
ododelire_: hoary12:00
lunitikalvaro: grrrrr12:00
lunitikalvaro: Import Photos!12:00
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odobut I'm beginning to think that I screwed up few things..12:01
alvarooh shit my photo came up!12:01
alvaro:D12:01
lunitikalvaro: gj...12:01
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mebaran151Hey12:01
mebaran151anyone here want to help me install the Gimp Print 5.0 drivers12:01
mebaran151my Epson R800 printer is only compatible with the 5.0 beta 512:01
mebaran151I dlled the tarball and attempted to checkinstall it12:02
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mebaran151but it didnt quite work12:02
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gillesWhat is the soft that allow to use the volume buttons ?12:03
runedudehiya guys whats the file to setup your network IP and stuff?12:03
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runedudeI need to set my system to use a static LAN ip, not  a DHCP12:03
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delire_odo: yep, it seems so. is 'gdm' running?12:03
tahorggilles: gnome-volume-manager12:03
lunitikgilles: Computer > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts will permit it...12:03
lunitiktahorg: he said the volume keys... not the volume12:04
gillesyes, the volume buttons on my keyboard, i can't find anything about it in Computer > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts12:04
tahorglunitik: buttons is too generic ...12:05
lunitikgilles: there is also 'hotkeys'...12:05
roo_runedude, are you using gnome? if so you can use the Network manager in Settings..?12:05
tahorg"buttons"12:05
lunitiktahorg: not really... else he would have said 'how do I change the volume'...12:05
runeduderoo_, terminal only12:05
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roo_runedude, /etc/network/interfaces12:05
drspinI found a problem using full screen + stretch with snes9x -> snes9x isn't in development anymore -> :'(12:05
gillesthe very small up, down, and stop volume button that are next to the touchpad of my keyboard12:05
runedudethanks, do i need to reboot for those to be in effect?12:05
roo_runedude, this is linux, of course not ;)12:06
kbrooks:D compiled12:06
runeduderoo_, what do I type then? :)12:06
gilleson my laptop i mean12:06
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tahorglunitik: <joke>yes but he's french</joke>12:06
DalkusWhere is synaptic in hoary?12:06
tahorg(btw I'm french too)12:06
gillestahorg: what's the relation with being french ?12:06
tahorggilles: t'ennerves pas12:06
tahorggilles: c'etait une blague12:06
tahorg:)12:06
gillestahorg: mais non je m'nerve pas, t'inquite pas pour a...12:07
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burgermannlo12:07
drspindelire_: chmod +s worked quite nicely for snes9x -- the problem with not displaying is some sort of bug related to the stretching option -- if I don't turn on stretch it works just fine :)12:07
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delire_drspin: very weird..12:08
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kbrooksrunedude, you just need to.........12:08
burgermannI've got a Synaptic question: How do I install packages I've downloaded? :S12:08
kbrookswell12:08
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drspindelire_: indeed -- would've been nice to play SNES games at 1152x864 using 2x filtering :)12:08
huffersheh, everyone asks burgerman's question12:09
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Cheetahfoothey all: i want to install ubuntu for the first time, give it a try, but should i go with 4.10 or 5.04? i can't seem to find, on the Web site, what the differences are ...12:09
delirefor sure12:09
kbrooksrunedude, touch a file. ifup -av will tell you what you have to touch (man touch).12:09
kbrooksand you are ready to go12:09
drspinstable and preview release respectively12:09
roo_runedude, "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"12:09
runedudeifup: interface lo already configured12:09
runedudeifup: interface eth0 already configured12:09
runedude:\12:09
thotypoushi12:09
DalkusWhere is synaptic in gnome's menu's in hoary...? Or what command can I run from the cli to run synaptic package manager?12:09
Cheetahfoothow unstable is the preview? and which includes the latest version of gnome?12:09
drspin5.04 is the preview release for the next release of ubuntu -- Hoary12:09
drspin5.04 include 2.1012:10
Cheetahfoot4.10 does not?12:10
drspinit's not *that* unstable12:10
kbrooksrunedude, what roo said12:10
delireCheetahfoot: but being a preview release it's a little less polished12:10
runedudekbrooks, gotcha thanks12:10
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burgermannIf everyone asks how to install packages the answer should be registered in the ubuntu wiki?12:10
Cheetahfoothow tough is it to upgrade to hoary if i choose to install warthog first?12:10
Cheetahfootlater on, that is?12:10
delireCheetahfoot: you can always install the 4.10 and then upgrade to the latest release at any time.12:10
mebaran151anyone12:10
DalkusCheeseBall, depends on your luck12:10
mebaran151gimp print 5.012:10
kbrooksCheetahfoot, not tough12:10
drspinCheetahfoot: pretty easy actually :)12:11
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delireCheetahfoot: it's fine, though come here for advice if you get stuck12:11
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georgestest12:11
kbrookshow long should the gnupg key be valid?12:11
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Cheetahfootall right. thanks!12:11
kbrooksim creating one12:11
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kbrooksoh sod it12:12
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georgeshi, I try installing transcode on hoary... not there. and installing gtranscode says: depends on transcode12:12
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delirekbrooks: i set mine for a year each12:12
kbrooksdelire, k12:12
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delirekbrooks: you can always --revoke is later12:12
delires/is/it12:12
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rainerHi there!12:14
rainerI just installed ubuntu 5.04, a friend told me this distio rocks, and up t that point I'm quite satisfied12:15
rainerbut I got one question12:15
rainerhow do i get sound for xawtv and/or tvtime?12:16
randabisomg questions aren't allowed lolz12:16
randabisj/k12:16
huffersheh12:16
mebaran151Would anyone help me install Gimp-print 5.0 beta5.12:16
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randabisI'm not familiar with those programs unfortunately rainer. :(12:16
debubunhow can i write on nfts with ubuntu_12:16
burgermann:S12:16
mebaran151I tried from source and it failed12:16
debubunhow can i write on nfts with ubuntu?12:16
randabisdebubun: you can't by normal methods12:16
mebaran151anyone know a repo with that stuff12:16
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rainerthats bad, so I guess it's just that I got to configure them to use esd12:17
randabisntfs write support is experimental and not enabled in ubuntu...you'll need 3rd party software to write to ntfs12:17
burgermannIs Synaptic capable of installing downloaded packages at all? or is it just for upgrading the existing one and so?12:17
debubunlike what sf12:17
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brainZzZyou might be able to envision something like what it might be...but not really12:18
kbrooksdebubun, ntfs is not open source12:18
elshadiiI am having a terriable time trying to write a cd any help at all would be greately appreciated12:18
kbrooksburgermann, yes, and yes12:18
kbrookser. last yes to no12:18
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burgermannhow odd, there's no "Add packages" button =(12:18
randabisburgermann: you use command line tools to install .debs you downloaded12:19
randabisor you can use kpackage12:19
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rainerbetter said how can I turn esd off, or is there a mixer device whih esd uses?12:19
delirerainer: i'd turn esd off, it's only really necessary for gnome system sound12:20
randabisrainer: sudo killall esd will shutdown esd12:20
burgermannArhh oki12:20
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franHI12:20
randabisrainer: if you want to start esd back up afterward, you can just type esd12:20
DalkusHow can I get to synaptic from hoary please? in gnome12:20
delirerainer: but to turn it off permanently i'd check out the gnome system settings12:20
randabisDalkus: should be under System12:21
franapt-get install synaptic12:21
delireDalkus: from the command line with 'synaptic' or under System12:21
Arniaburgermann: Synaptic installs software quite nicely :)12:21
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DalkusThat's strange12:21
randabisDalkus: should be under System --> administration I believe12:21
DalkusIt uninstalled during dist-upgrade12:21
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rainerdelire: i did this and had a reboot12:21
delirehmm odd12:21
DalkusThanks12:21
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randabisjust reinstall it I suppose12:22
bob2_Dalkus: er, install ubuntu-desktop12:22
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rainerso probably it isn't esd. I've read in the faq that someone had sound problems too with xine and such apps...12:22
DalkusChrist, *that* shouldn't have been left off!12:22
delirerainer: try killall esd anyway12:23
bob2_Dalkus: if it's not installed, someone with root on your machine removed it12:23
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elshadiiexit12:23
Dalkusbob2, No, I just did dist-upgrade12:23
DalkusIt was probably that, since I'm the only user :)12:23
raineri've tried it said no esd processes found12:23
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delireand do the applications have sound now?12:24
delirerainer: how about sound generally, like playing a soundfile12:24
burgermannWhat I don't get is, you say that Synaptic installs packages nicely? but here I am in my sweet console trying to figure out apt-get and the install procedure12:24
Dalkusrainer, do 'ps aux | grep esd' what output does it give?12:24
rainertotem works great12:25
burgermann:P12:25
Dalkusburgermann, you should read up on apt-get first :P12:25
Dalkussudo apt-get install <package12:25
Arniaburgermann: I'm curious... how are you there?12:25
burgermannyah.. reading up aint my strongets side12:25
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Dalkussudo apt-get remove package12:25
Dalkusthose are obvious what they do :P12:25
Dalkusand to search for a package:12:25
Dalkussudo apt-cache search package12:25
burgermannArnia, hehe good question.. someone said something about install using the command-line..12:25
Arniaburgermann: You using Gnome?12:26
delireburgermann: 'apt-cache search <keyword>' retrieves output on a search based on a keyword. 'apt-cache show <package>' reveals a description of the package' and 'apt-get install <package>' installs said pacakge12:26
burgermannArnia, ye =D12:26
ArniaSystem > Administration > Synaptic12:26
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Arnia(from the top menu)12:26
burgermanndelire, where do I type it?.. console? :] 12:26
delireburgermann: synaptic and kpackage are however very good GUI interfaces to apt.12:27
rainerrainer@cosmos:~$ ps aux | grep esd12:27
rainerrainer    8577  0.0  0.0   3344   760 pts/0    S+   00:26   0:00 grep esd12:27
ArniaSynaptic being more appropriate for Gnome12:27
burgermannArnia, ay! then I've opened it then what? =D12:27
delireburgermann: yes in the console, you should place 'sudo' ("super user do") before the above commands12:27
ArniaSearch for things you want to install by clicking 'search' (you can search by the short package 'name' or by name and the longer description)12:28
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DAC1138is anyone here still on dialup?12:28
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ArniaSelect those packages to install by clicking on the square and 'marking' it for installation12:28
i3dmasterIs there any difference between Preview and RC that released yesterday?12:28
ArniaYou can reload you package list by clicking 'reload'12:28
alvaroThanks guys for the digital camera help!12:28
Arniai3dmaster: Package upgrades... reload and mark upgrades and apply12:28
Arnia(from Synaptic)12:29
burgermannArnia, it doesn't find it. I'm trying to install OpenOffice 2.0 Beta12:29
Arniaburgerman: Type open-office12:29
ArniaShort names are very short12:29
ArniaYou'll pick up on the form12:29
ArniaGenerally if you don't know what you're looking for, choose 'name and description' in the search by dropdown12:29
rainerin the meantime even totem doesn't work :-(12:30
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burgermannstill can't find it :/ does it look around my disc to find the package i've downloaded?12:30
Arniaburgermann: No... it will search the package index12:31
Arniaburgermann: Which is the index of stuff it can download12:31
runedudeanyone have a good /etc/network/interfaces example for static IPs, not dchp :P12:31
runedudedhcp*12:31
Arniaburgermann: Search for openoffice by name and description12:31
Bazziapt-get install openoffice.org212:31
burgermannArnia, did the search, but it only finds the old 1.1.3 openoffice :/12:31
Bazzithats it :p12:32
adobbierunedude: iface eth0 inet static    address 192.168.0.2     netmask 255.255.255.012:32
runedudedo I need to set gateway?12:32
adobbierunedude: three lines like that.  also man interfaces12:32
adobbierunedude: probably not12:32
runedudeok12:33
raineram I right totem needs esd to work?12:33
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Zeit|idleInstall-question: can I first boot installer from CD, stop/halt/pause/freeze the installation, copy the CD-content to a hd, remove the CD and continue installation from hd?12:33
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adobbierainer: I don't think so12:34
DAC1138can anyone recommend a good pcmcia 56k modem? i've found some xircm cards work in linux, and there's a few models im unsure about12:34
burgermannBazzi, actually the tar file I downloaded contains 19 different packages 8 of which seems to be core packages :S12:34
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adobbierainer: totem works for me without esd running12:35
Bazziburgermann just...let apt handle it..12:35
rainerso I started esd now and totem works12:35
adobbierainer: depends on your config I guess, I use all alsa12:35
raineryes for me too, but not without12:35
georgeswho had problems here running mplayer?12:35
raineradobbie: which config can i do that in, so I got the default from installation12:36
adobbiedeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main12:36
adobbiethose mplayer packages should work in hoary12:36
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burgermannBazzi, now it says that it cant find the package, i'm quite certian i gave the right path12:37
delirerainer: edit /etc/apt/sources.list12:37
georgesI can't play videos with "maplyer" but I can play them with "mplayer -ao esd"12:37
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Bazziburgermann you gave a path? why?12:37
Arniaburgermann: You don't need to manually download most things12:37
deliregeorges: is this in hoary?12:37
burgermannbazzi, it cant find the package :S12:37
Arniaburgermann: The Apt system will handle it for you12:38
Arniaburgermann: Synaptic is an Apt client12:38
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Bazziburgermann have you enabled the universe/multiverse repositories?12:38
delireburgermann: think of synaptic as as an Emule for your operating system12:38
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burgermannOh :P12:38
georgesdelire: yes12:38
Arniaburgermann: Go into Settings > Repositories12:38
burgermannno, haven't seen any universe/multiverse repositories :S12:38
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burgermannoki12:38
Arnia(in Synaptic)12:38
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deliregeorges: it's a total stuff up.. will be fixed soon i hope (for everyone's sake)12:39
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itayhi!12:39
itayI have installed ubuntu few minutes ago!12:39
Arniaburgerman: Select the repository called "Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary Hedgeghog" and click the edit button12:39
Bazziyeah the people here will help you, meanwhile I'll do $this->__sleep();12:39
itayI want to update my sources, what should I do?12:40
delireitay: congratulations!12:40
itaythanks12:40
itayI have only the cdrom source12:40
Arniaburgerman: In the sections field, add after main: restricted universe multiverse12:40
georgesdelire: I can't install at all transcode (not in repository)12:40
itaywhat should I add to /etc/apt/sources.list12:40
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Arniaburgermann: Click ok and then ok again12:40
Arniaburgermann: It will ask you if you want to update your package lists. Say yes12:41
Arniaburgermann: Once its done updating, search for openoffice by name and description again12:41
itayand why I have 2 root password? I type "passwd" in root and set it, but then using the GUI, I need to use my user password. what is that? I want only one root pass.12:42
Arniaitay: You should use sudo12:42
Arniaitay: Rather than root12:42
brainZzZyou should use that reg i sent ya12:42
rainerI tried startind tvtime through the console now and it said: can't open device=/dev/mixer12:42
burgermannArnia, thx.. :P12:42
rainerprobably this got something to do with my problem?12:42
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itayArnia, sudo does complete the command with tab...12:43
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burgermannGezz... thats great =D12:43
burgermannthanx =D12:43
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TinyNotehello12:44
Arniaitay: Its more secure though... its highly recommended. Almost all the system tools use sudo12:44
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Arniaburgermann: no problem12:44
Greg___has anyone tried to setup the IMAP PHP extension within ubuntu?12:44
itayand sudo will always have the user pass?12:45
TinyNoteHas anyone heard of Magportable laptops?12:45
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Arniaitay: yes12:45
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itayand what about the sources?12:45
Greg___or has anyone tried to make the c-client imap folder in ubuntu?12:45
itayI want an internet source, what should I do?12:46
TinyNoteAny clue how I can get Ubuntu intalled on the TinyNote? Having problems with CDROM detection12:46
cowbudanyone know a way to dump a list to the command prompt of all the titles of windows currently open?12:46
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cowbudin X12:46
Arniaitay: an 'internet source'12:46
kbrooks_strange12:46
kbrooks_im lagging like hell12:46
itayI have only one source, it is the cdrom, I want to install programs from the internet.12:46
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Arniaitay: Use synaptic12:47
Antarhttp://www.antonblaga.com/screenshot.png  can someone tell me how to fix this?12:47
ArniaSettings > Repositories12:47
itayyes, but I don't have sources...12:47
ArniaAdd a new repository12:47
TinyNoteSo who is the expert here?12:47
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burgermannI think Ubuntu is much easier to install compared to Windows =D12:48
ArniaChoose 'Hoary Hedgehog' from the repository drop down and select all the components12:48
Absenthis there a way to remove esd, or prevent it from starting unless needed?  I think it's annoying for me to have to "killall esd" every time I boot.12:48
Earthencould some tell where i could find a good "how to" on how to setup internet sharing and web cashing12:48
adobbieburgermann: most people would fail installing Windows :)12:48
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georgesstill noone here running transcode on hoary?12:48
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adobbieAbsenth: what happens if you dpkg --remove esd ?12:48
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Antarhttp://www.antonblaga.com/screenshot.png  can someone tell me how to fix this?12:49
burgermannadobbie, ye what's needed is an option for as little interaction during the installation process as possible :P12:49
drbombay43yellow all, I just installed hoary and would like to what is the root password12:49
adobbieAntar: are you trying to play a video in an mp3 playing program?12:49
Absenthadobbie, "dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove esd which isn't installed."12:49
TinyNoteHaving problems with CDROM detection12:49
Roeyitay:  shalom, ma nishma. My brother writes his with an I ("itai")12:49
Antarno i am trying to stream a radio station12:50
itaynehmad shemisheu medaber kan ivrit!12:50
georgesdrbombay43: there is no root pass, for security12:50
Antaryou can make one though12:50
Antarsudo passwd root12:50
TinyNoteCan anyone help me with an Ubuntu install?12:50
georgesAntar: until now I have not needed it.12:50
Antarhmm12:51
georgesAntar: I only know one issue where it's probably needed: swat12:51
itayI prefer to write it with "y", because the last letter is yud and not alef yud12:51
georgesAntar: and perhapt cups web config12:51
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ArniaTinyNote: What's the issue?12:51
yifancan't compile in Ubuntu but can do it in knoppix12:51
drbombay43Antar thank you12:51
yifansame sourcecode, anyone can help?12:51
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TinyNoteCool thanx: I am trying to install Ubuntu on a MAG TinyNote Laptop with an external CDROM drive, but the drive is not detected12:52
itaythank you, I think I will stay with ubuntu as my desktop distro12:52
adobbieAntar: mplayer works :) you just have to type stuff12:52
itayIt's very friendly12:52
ArniaHmm... how far do you get?12:52
itayI just need to get used to sudo.....12:52
Antarmplayer huh?12:53
Antari would need to install lthat12:53
ArniaAntar: What file format is being streamed?12:53
Antar"http://www.somafm.com/groovesalad.pls"12:53
Antar.pls?12:53
TinyNoteI select lang., keyboard layout, ect. Then when detecting hardware, stops at 86% when trying to install CDROM drivers12:53
TinyNotesomething about: "NO Common CDROM ...."12:54
Antarhow do i apt-get mplayer?12:54
Antarit says there is no package with that name12:54
adobbieAntar: totem will play that12:54
Antarah yeah?12:55
Antarlets try12:55
adobbieAntar: if you call it music that is12:55
ArniaAntar: What repository sources are you grabbing?12:55
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Servo888Modprobing nvidia yields this error: "nvidia: version magic '2.6.11.2-em8300 preempt PENTIUMII gcc-3.4' should be '2.6.11.2-em8300 preempt PENTIUMII gcc-3.3'" | I'm on 2.6.11.2 (my own build).12:55
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Absenthantar I believe I had to install mplayer from source.  However I have a great howto for you :)12:55
adobbieAntar: use totem for now12:55
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Arniaadobbie: If he doesn't know about repository components then he probably doesn't have mp3 installed...12:56
Absenthantar, http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt12:56
adobbieServo888: trying to load a modules compiled with gcc-3.4 into a gcc-3.3 compiled kernel?12:56
ArniaNo need to install from source... there is a deb12:56
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yifanHello, gcc shows many errors with no-error source ..anyone helps12:57
Servo888adobbie, I compiled the kernel on the same machine, I built the nvidia module; so it should still use the same gcc.12:57
Antarwould the fact that i am using horay have anything to do with this error message?12:57
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adobbiebtw, esd is in esound package12:58
ArniaAntar: No... but the fact you don't have an mp3 decoder might :)12:58
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kbrookschecking for GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0... no12:58
kbrooks*** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...12:58
kbrooks*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the12:58
kbrooks*** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.12:58
kbrooksconfigure: error: Cannot find GTK+ 2.012:58
Antarubuntu has no mp3 decoder?12:58
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Antarthats uhm....A FACTOR12:58
kbrooksWhat package do I install to get GTK+12:58
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Antartotem is not working either12:58
lewwyhey guys12:59
Antar:-\12:59
kbrooksAntar, legal reasons12:59
Servo888Antar, xmms...12:59
adobbieArnia: doesn't Debian come with mp3 decoders?12:59
Antaryeah12:59
Antari installed xmms12:59
kbrooksWhat package do I install to get GTK+12:59
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kbrooksWhat package do I install to get GTK+12:59
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apokryphosAntar: have you looked at the Restricted Formats article?12:59
Antarnope12:59
kbrooksadobbie, no... legal reasons12:59
apokryphoskbrooks: please don't flood the channel12:59
lewwycan a way to stitch images together using The Gimp?  I have some panaromic pictures12:59
kbrooksapokryphos, sorry12:59
kbrooksbut i want it :/12:59
Antarso this is about mp3 encoding huh?12:59
Antarany quick way to fix this?01:00
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fusibouAntar google marillat01:00
Cimmerianyou need gstreamer0.8-mad01:00
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Servo888Antar, read restricted formats article, or google for another feed.01:00
Cimmerianfor mp3 support01:00
apokryphosPyre: tell Antar uburestricted01:00
PyreAntar: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:00
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kpetersonhey does anyone here have experience setting up a mouse with many buttons?01:00
Absenthantar, also reading the Unofficial ubuntu guide will help answer a crapload of thigns.  in great detail.01:00
Cimmerianyou can find it all on the webpages: http://www.ubuntulinux.org / http://www.ubuntuforums.org01:01
Absenthantar, I'm new to ubuntu, and found that document to be the best thing this side of sliced bread.01:01
adobbiekbrooks: Debian does have mp3 decoders beep-media-player Provides: mp3-decoder01:01
Antarah ha!01:01
adobbiekbrooks: yes that's in main01:01
Arniakbrooks: Install the dev packages for GTk01:01
Antarlooking into the link01:01
Antarthank you01:01
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Absenthyou might also consider taking a look at that link I posted above....01:01
Absenthantar, http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt01:02
DocUbNata?01:02
DocUberrr01:02
DocUbAnatr01:02
DocUbdamnit01:02
DocUbANTAR!01:02
ArniaAbsenth: It won't help if he doesn't have a decoder :)01:02
Antarhaha01:02
AntarYOOO01:02
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DocUblol01:02
brainZzZ[cognet]  <cptsulu> haha01:02
ArniaAbsenth: He can get mplayer and a decoder from the appropriate repositories :)01:02
AbsenthArnia, That Document walks the ubernoob through the entire process.  Which would explain why "I" found it helpful.01:03
Antarwhats up doc?01:03
kbrooksLOL01:03
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kbrooksAntar, bugs bunny?01:04
Quest-MasterDoes anyone know how to disable this message from popping up when closing tabs with uncomplete forms with them in Epiphany?01:05
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DocUblol01:05
Quest-Master"There are unsubmitted changes to form elements"01:05
DocUbnotta Antar, just watching a movie01:05
cartel_:)01:05
DocUb:-D01:05
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Antarheh01:05
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bugsbunny:P01:06
DocUbI see the room has finally gotten quiet01:06
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Quest-Master"If you close the document anyway, you will lose that information"01:06
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hybrid_does ubuntu come with and ftp client01:06
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apokryphoshybrid_: yes, nautilus01:07
hybrid_where can i find it01:07
apokryphosgftp too, if that comes by default.01:07
apokryphoshybrid_: it's the default FIle Manager on gnome. :)01:07
hybrid_apokryphos i know but i mean how do i use it01:07
ositywhat does the apt-get update commnad do?01:08
apokryphosjust ftp.site.com I imagine, but I've never tried it; hold on, I will now.01:08
Antarthese faqs are for warty and i am use hoary01:08
apokryphososity: download packages from the repositories01:08
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apokryphososity: see man apt-get01:08
Antarthis is what a get for being bleeding edge01:08
ositywhich ones ...any available?01:09
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apokryphososity: try opening Synaptic01:09
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Antari have no idea what i am doing01:09
Antari need to read more01:09
minimumragei want clear my MBR. i cant get a dos fdisk to do fdisk /mbr .  how can i do this in ubuntu? i can do fdisk here too. different usage is confusing me. thanks01:09
Antarlater guys i am going back to the LC channel01:09
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roo_minimumrage, when u say "clear" what do you mean?01:10
minimumragedeleting grub01:10
roo_minimumrage, oh, no idea then. google?01:10
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minimumragetried it.. all i find is fdisk /mbr  but thats for the windowsxp recovery console01:11
supernovahi01:11
minimumragei need to do it in ubuntu01:11
apokryphoshybrid_: do you have access to the Internet on the computer in question?01:11
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Quest-MasterGod01:11
Quest-MasterEpiphany is the slowest thing ever lately01:11
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minimumrageyes01:12
hybrid_apokryphs yes i do01:12
minimumragei have01:12
apokryphoshybrid_: I'm not sure of the syntax for ftp in Nautilus01:12
minimumragei am on the pc now with a ubuntu live cd01:12
apokryphoshybrid_: ok, then if you want a gnome one: sudo apt-get install gftp01:12
adobbieapokryphos: ftp://someftpsite.com01:12
hybrid_apokryphs it is my website i need to upload to01:12
supernova icant play any music or video format ! how can o that?01:12
hybrid_ok01:12
hybrid_thanx01:12
burgermanncan KDE be installed easily? or does ubuntu not yet support it?01:12
apokryphoshybrid_: though, adobbie has helped us out here. So you can use Nautilus if you like01:13
apokryphosburgermann: very easily, yes.01:13
zerokarmaleftburgermann, see kubuntu01:13
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apokryphosburgermann: and it does support it01:13
hybrid_ok01:13
roo_supernova, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:13
apokryphosadobbie: thanks :)01:13
burgermannzerokarmaleft, I look but I don't see.. hehe... where is kubuntu?01:13
hybrid_apokryphs how would i use nautilis to do so01:13
typoI'm getting bad GPG signatures on pt.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com. Why's this?01:13
supernovathanks01:13
apokryphosburgermann: join #kubuntu if you like. www.kubuntu.org01:14
roo_supernova, np01:14
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|QuaD-hey, does the version of mono in hoary have system.webforms implemented?01:14
burgermannohh that's SWEET! :P01:14
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apokryphos:)01:15
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dazed|alright i need some help i have a hoary pc and warty on the laptop now i can get the files on the pc to show up on the ubuntu network via smb but the files i want to share on the laptop dont show up on the network anywhere anyone have any ideas???01:15
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dazed|i tried nsf... no success there either01:15
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typoanyone know this?01:16
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adobbiedazed|: NFS is faster than SMB01:17
dazed|adobbie: i cant get files to show up with NFS on either machine01:17
adobbiedazed|: you need nfs-kernel-server and man exports01:17
dazed|adobbie: did all that both machines01:18
roo_dazed|, if u wana try NFS see: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NFSServerHOWTOUbuntu01:18
adobbieadd entry like /share compname(rw)01:18
adobbiedazed|: do you have hostnames in /etc/hosts on both computers?01:18
dazed|adobbie: i know01:18
dazed|it doesnt show up01:18
dazed|let me check01:18
adobbiedazed|: you have to use hostname not IP01:18
osityyo....what's that commnad to install ssh server again?01:19
i3dmasteranyway to tell /etc/inittab is from which package?01:19
adobbiei3dmaster: dpkg -S /etc/inittab01:19
dazed|adobbie goto #paste so i can show u my file and tell me if its right01:19
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i3dmasteradobbie: I did. Nothing comes back01:19
apokryphosArnia: Convert; you know you want to. ;-)01:20
apokryphosArnia: we give out free tea and biscuits in #kubuntu01:20
adobbiei3dmaster: must be related to init01:20
roo_apokryphos, you meak bisKuits? ;)01:20
marianohey people01:20
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marianoanybody can give me a little help?01:21
adobbiei3dmaster: sysvinit related maybe01:21
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typodoes anyone know if the GPG signatures should be valid?01:21
apokryphosroo_: Bah, I mispelled it again didn't I. Thanks. ;-)01:21
typodoes anyone else see this problem?01:21
wwiseHowdy folks.  Do I need to download the iso for the new preview release or can I just upgrade through apt?01:21
marianoit's probably a very simple question01:21
apokryphoswwise: you can upgrade01:21
apokryphoswwise: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:21
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wwisek, thx01:22
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i3dmasteradobbie: ya seems to be that way. but why the inittab from sysvinit is under /usr/share01:22
adobbiei3dmaster: example file I suppose01:22
i3dmasterNo difference from /etc/inittab01:23
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moominskiany got any good websites so that i can learn usefull commans??01:23
i3dmasterso maybe the installation process just copied that inittab to /etc dir I guess01:23
moominskicant even spell01:23
apokryphosPyre: tell moominski rute01:24
Pyremoominski: http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz01:24
i3dmasteradobbie: Interesting thing is I have one box setup default runlevel to 2 and another one is 3. I did not mess up the inittab file at all, so guess that must be revised from the developers01:25
moominskithanks man sorry for repeating questions i just forget a lot01:25
apokryphosmoominski: no worries. There's probably a better one as far as CLI goes; one sec, I'll try to track it down01:26
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jp_hi all01:28
skyriderHi all. I have a small question about mirroring ubuntu archive with rsync. I'd like to talk with someone of rsync admins of archive.ubuntu.com. Who can I talk with?01:28
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KingArthurok, I can anyone help me update my Ubuntu.  I'm finally online with it, but the problem I have is that I was not able to be online when I first installed everything when it asked me to download updates, and now I can't find out how to do the updates01:31
mdzskyrider: mirrors@canonical.com01:31
mdzKingArthur: system->configuration->synaptic->settings->repositories01:32
garrutKingArthur: run get update and after that apt-get upgrade01:32
skyridermdz: ok. But I hoped to see someone in irc.01:32
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garrutor what mdz says :)01:32
apokryphosmoominski: I can't seem to find it unfortunatley, but a search on google brings some great results. i.e. http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html01:32
black_nightmarehey there01:32
odoarchive,ubuntu.org went broken?01:33
mdzskyrider: he's asleep01:33
black_nightmareany of you know about the 'software updates' ?01:33
Zeit|idlestart to hate either Ubuntu or my notebook.. not sure yet01:33
brainZzZZeit|idle, i may get a bottle of wine but im not sure yet01:33
black_nightmarethe related question I wanted to ask was...01:33
skyridermdz: can you give me his irc nick so I will talk with him tomorrow?01:33
Jamminpotatowhat is the command to delete a folder form terminal?01:34
brainZzZso i will talk to you at a later time01:34
black_nightmareif a lib or so already works fine for my needs I don't have to bother updating it (and so save on both hd space and bandwidth) ?01:34
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apokryphosJamminpotato: check man rm01:34
Jamminpotatok01:34
mdzskyrider: is there some reason you don't want to send email?01:34
black_nightmarelikewise...I'm not so sure I would want to keep updating to the latest-EVERYthing for a home system on 56K01:34
black_nightmareso... :p01:34
cartel_black_nightmare: you will want to update if a security fix comes out01:35
mdzskyrider: if you're going to set up an rsync mirror, we need contact information for you anyway01:35
black_nightmarecartel..even update python and the so?01:35
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black_nightmarewb cartel01:35
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supernovai cant find any package with apt-get install...help it pls01:36
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black_nightmarecartel..do I even have to keep updating python/etc even although I'm like barely using that and that at all and its already stable?01:36
Jamminpotatoapokryphos, i man'd it and used the -d modifierr but it syas it cant becuase its a directory01:36
odook. there is deffinately something wrong with archive.ubuntu.org...apt-get will download about 20kB or so and then connection just stops...and I've checked my connection01:37
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skyridermdz: not really. I just dont't know how to formulate my question in the right way so I thought that asking in irc would be easier for me.01:37
apokryphosJamminpotato: you don't use d. You use -r, since you want to delete things recursively. Be careful with the command, however!01:37
mdzskyrider: you can ask me your question on IRC, and I'll pass it on via email, then?01:37
skyridermdz: ok. privately :)01:38
Jamminpotatoapokryphos,  thanks01:38
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black_nightmarehm *waits*01:38
i3dmasteranyone knows how to unpack a deb package? I found that xfld-desktop_4.2.1.1-2_all.deb cannot really be installed01:38
DarthFrogi3dmaster: I think a deb file is just a shar archive.01:39
brainZzZmartha is just a way to appease the masses01:39
i3dmasterok just found it. dpkg -x can extract a deb package...01:39
adobbieit's an ar archive01:39
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adobbieif I remember right01:40
i3dmasterDarthFrog: btw, what is a shar archive?01:40
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DarthFrogadobbie: Yeah, that's right.  I remember unpacking one manually a while back.01:40
orkohow do u check to see what dependencies a package has? (dpkg ?)01:40
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adobbiegzipped ar file01:40
DarthFrogi3dmaster: It's ar, not shar.  "man ar" for more info.01:40
i3dmasterDarthFrog: ok I see01:41
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adobbiepersonally I think they should use bzip2 for compression01:41
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adobbiebut I guess you don't mess with something that works01:41
DarthFrogadobbie: Yeah, but bzip2 is a recent development.  Wasn't available probably, when the format was laid down.01:41
Zeit|idleshar is almost as old a sh..01:42
Zeit|idle^^01:42
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black_nightmarenevermind...probably going to not even bother with software updates unless something isn't working01:43
DarthFrogHmm, the pope has been given last rites.01:43
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roo_having some weird latex font issues: http://migrantroo.com/misc/latex_fonts.png01:44
roo_they looks all squashed and crappy. any ideas?01:44
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roo_(they looked fine when the pdf was compiled in previous distro)01:44
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punjab12hi01:46
i3dmasterDarthFrog: just tried, ar is able to extract deb package01:47
DarthFrogi3dmaster: Good stuff. Have fun. :-)01:47
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i3dmasterso dpkg is actually using ar as background process to extract the package?01:47
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osity..what's that commnad to install ssh server again? apt-get install openssh  ????01:49
Roeyopenssh-server01:49
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kpetersondoes anyone here have experience setting up a mouse with many butons01:50
adobbiekpeterson: yes01:50
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adobbiekpeterson: Logitech MX500/MX700?01:50
dtshow can i make it so that 'ps' shows the actual command i typed and not just the program name01:50
kpetersonadobbie: yeah MX500 I think01:51
kpetersonadobbie 700 actually01:51
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adobbiekpeterson: you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:52
kpetersonadobbie k hold on01:52
adobbiejoin #flood01:52
Adrossi just got a 19" lcd monitor. Yes, i know, i rock. But whenever i try to view one of my many legally obtained videos in full screen, i see all those randomly appear streaky lines01:52
kpetersonadobbie actually I was following this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ManyButtonsMouseHowto but its says something about modifying /etc/X11/Xsession.d/60imwheel_start-imwheel and I get lost01:52
i3dmasterThis is very strange. I've already had the same version of xfld-desktop installed but apt is keeping saying that this package needs to be upgraded01:52
i3dmasterii  xfld-desktop                        4.2.1.1-2                           The Xfld Desktop01:53
i3dmasterThe following packages will be upgraded:01:53
i3dmaster  xfld-desktop01:53
adobbiekpeterson: I'm not sure you need imwheel01:53
Adrosswould anyone know how to remedy this?01:53
i3dmasterwhat's wrong with it?01:53
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adobbiemy forward/back works in Mozilla already without it01:53
kpetersonadobbie I was hoping to get it working with IM wheel since I have other plans for the buttons01:53
adobbiekpeterson: you have an ~/.imwheelrc ?01:54
Adrossis upgrading to xorg relatively safe?01:54
Quest-MasterAdross: Very much, yes01:54
Adrosshow does one do it?01:54
Quest-MasterAdross: Check the Wiki01:55
Adrosscan't it be done through synaptic?01:55
Quest-MasterAdross: Search for Upgrading to Hoary there01:55
Quest-MasterAdross: Yes, you must upgrade to Hoary though as well01:55
Adrossoh, is that all i have to do?01:55
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Quest-MasterAdross: Do a dist-upgrade, and then when it comes to a command line, simply sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg01:56
Quest-MasterAdross: Check in the wiki.. it's explained very indepth01:56
Adrosscheers, url?01:56
Quest-MasterAdross: Right at http://www.ubuntulinux.org01:56
Adrossthanks01:56
Adrosscya01:56
kpetersonadobbie yeah01:56
kpetersonadobbie its just the part i mentioned that im confused about01:57
adobbiekpeterson: I think you just need to create the config and then run imwheel to get the features01:57
kpetersonadobbie01:58
kpetersonadobbie ok01:58
kpetersonthanks01:58
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adobbieMX500 and MX700 might want to use Option          "Resolution"            "800"01:59
adobbieI was going to tell  kpeterson but he left02:00
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punkrockguy318Is openoffice broken?  I'm getting segfaults when I run it02:01
eazel7I can't get flash working under hoary02:01
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punkrockguy318I'm getting segfaults when I run openoffice.  Is there any way I can fix this?02:05
osityis there any point to have an internal file server connected to the net?02:05
randabispunkrockguy318: heh, I've always had problems with ubuntu's openoffice packages so I dunno man02:05
black_nightmarepunkrock..sorry no idea....removed openoffice and used evolution instead here02:05
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adobbieosity: to download package updates02:05
punkrockguy318hmm02:06
hksdupunkrockguy318: did you use apt-get to install OO or download the tar?02:06
brainZzZwhen downloading a new driver for my ati raedon card, i see 2 different files to download, im not sure which is better, one inculed the catalyst control center, other does not02:06
adobbieosity: might not need 24/7 connection02:06
punkrockguy318hksdu, i'm using the one that was installed with ubuntu.. i'm running hoary btw02:06
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scmis someone free to answer a quick via dcc chat?02:06
hksdupunkrockguy318: why don't you try downloading the tar and install there instead?02:07
daysoncan someone tell me how to get the ati drivers installed? I cant get my video stuff setup02:07
scmit is a question about a rather old editor02:07
scm'ed' in fact02:07
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daysonwhere is everyone?02:08
PyreI don't know dayson. They're not connected to IRC.02:08
adobbiedayson: my answer is: buy NVIDIA next time :)02:09
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daysonman ATI needs some drivers cause I cant get this damn card working at all02:09
daysonbut I dont have anymore money :(02:09
adobbiedayson: google instructions02:09
adobbiesearch for Ubuntu first then Debian02:09
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=== maddler 's looking for a suggestion...
maddlera good program to manage a DVD (video) collection...02:10
maddler:)02:10
daysonhttp://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html02:10
daysonwould that work guys?02:10
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PecKHello all............ Quick one, how do I change the character enconding in Hoary  default used was english US, want portuguese BR?02:12
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tannewtAmaranth: you are working on a gnome 2.10 editor?02:14
PacoBCNI found out that placing my laptop above a silver tray helps not to over heat it...02:14
pepinaPecK, maybe dpkg-reconfigure locales (??)02:14
pepinaand choose the BR one02:14
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franco_onlooking for help pls, trying to install ubuntu from iso cd, at boot, type server, starts to do its thing, then i get a kernel panic, what should i do?02:15
adobbiePecK: dpkg-reconfigure locales02:15
adobbiemake sure the locale you need gets generated02:15
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CarlKTrying to install on a nvidia box, get:  WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!   linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 linux-image-386 nvidia-kernel-common02:16
CarlKand 3 more...02:16
black_nightmarestupid question but....02:16
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black_nightmareany of you know if its ok to run low or out of free hd space with ubuntu?02:16
black_nightmareor does it have some reason for needing free space? (the swap partition is already seperate)02:17
HrdwrBoBblack_nightmare: low is not important02:17
HrdwrBoBno free space will cause bad thigns to happen02:17
HrdwrBoBit's not the end of the world02:17
adobbieblack_nightmare: running out of space is bad for anything with log files02:17
HrdwrBoBbut things Won't Work Right02:17
PecKthx adobbie02:17
adobbielike syslog, chat clients, etc.02:17
PecK:D02:17
black_nightmarehmm well so I guess I could only have like 100-140MB of free hd space without a problem?02:17
franco_oni get a kernel painc, unable to sync, fail to init02:18
dtshow do you start synaptic from the command line?02:18
pepinadts, just type syntaptic as root (??) , check to see if it's in your path,02:18
PecKsudo it02:18
PecKdts02:18
XiraWhat's the command to turn an rpm into a deb again?02:19
PecKadobbie, do I need to restart Xserv?02:19
pepinaXira, alien02:19
black_nightmareanyone mind answering my above question? :-)02:19
Xirasyntax?02:19
PecKXira alien help ?02:19
PecK:p02:19
pepinaXira, sudo alien foo.rpm02:19
pepinait will makle foo.deb :P02:20
lynxxblack_nightmare you should be fine02:20
black_nightmarelynxx ty -- I kinda want download the kernel source to look at part of it just....for curiousity :p02:20
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lynxx:P02:20
black_nightmaredon't have much hd space right now but have enough to download it with some free space left for now02:20
adobbiePecK: you can try logging in again and setting your locale.  it should work02:20
pepinablack_nightmare, that would be enough02:20
black_nightmarewill have figure adding my slave hd in tomorrow if I can find one02:20
PecKthx adobbie02:20
PecKbrb then :)02:20
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dtswell, I am writing a script and I want it to pull up synaptics to install one package in case it's not installed, I'd prefer to stick to gui and not use apt-get02:21
ruffianHi, for alsamixer if i just turn the volume down all the way, does that mute it?02:22
lynxxblack_nightmare im running this on my secondary HD which is only a 6 gig02:22
CarlKif you are writing a script, why would you want the gui?02:22
apokryphosruffian: yes02:22
dtsruffian, not for me02:22
brainZzZwhy would you want the host?02:22
black_nightmarelynxx.. don't laugh SERIOUSLY but.....02:22
ruffiandts: How do you mute it?02:22
black_nightmaremain hd = 2.5gb seagate02:22
pepinadts, dunno if synaptic is scriptable , stick to apt-get ;)02:22
black_nightmareif I know where I put it.. slave would probably be 2.5gb quantum02:22
CarlKblack_nightmare - I am installing to a 3g right now, and one of my laptops is only 700meg02:23
lynxxblack_nightmare :O02:23
adobbiemy harddrive for / is 60GB :)02:23
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hksdublack_nightmare: should you consider using those vector linux or damn small linux distros?02:23
adobbiethen I store my files on other harddrives02:23
dtspepina, it is, when i used time and date for the first time it automatically came up and installed the time sync software i was missing02:23
black_nightmarehksdu..umm... I dunno what these are sorry02:23
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apokryphosruffian: you can press M to mute it02:24
black_nightmarebut I have quite a lot of apt-get 's here.. especially with updates and so on.02:24
ruffianapokryphos: Thank you.02:24
CarlKblack_nightmare - do you know about the "server" install?02:24
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black_nightmarecarlk.....I was using cd installion with the network already hooked up anyhow ;)02:24
black_nightmareeven opted to leave packages on cd's to cut off 700MB of space02:25
CarlKblack_nightmare - sounds like "no02:25
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ruffianapokryphos: Just one last question. Everytime i change the settings in alsamixer and reboot, it resets it02:25
franco_onKernal panic: Attempted to kill init!02:25
CarlKblack_nightmare - "server" = 290 meg install, no X, no apps, no nothing but what you need to apt-get stuff.02:25
ruffianapokryphos: How can i save it permanently?02:26
franco_onget mesg during install02:26
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apokryphosruffian: check out the man page for alsactl02:26
CarlKso then you can get just what you want, and have a few more bytes left over02:26
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ruffianok02:26
apokryphosruffian: in theory, it should save automatically, but there's methods there for if it doesn't02:26
ruffianapokryphos: ok, Thank you02:27
apokryphosnp02:27
franco_onhel pme anyone?02:27
moominskiim trying to install an icon set, but im getting this: Checking for bzip2... found /usr/bin/bzip202:29
moominskiChecking for tar...  found /bin/tar02:29
moominskiChecking for convert...  no.02:29
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DocUb.02:29
black_nightmaremoom try go to synaptic and search for 'convert' ...see if anything might turn up?02:29
black_nightmarejust a quick thought02:29
moominskiok thanks02:29
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therockhrhi ppl02:30
therockhri just modified my user groups and now i am not in the sudo group anymore....how can i change that back because I cannot do anythng as root02:30
chavomoominski, converts is part of imagemagick package02:31
dazed|can anyone help me mounting NFS folders...it says connection refused when trying to mount but i can ping each system???02:31
moominskichavo: should i spt-get that package02:31
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tannewtAmaranth?02:32
chavomoominski, yes02:32
ruffianHi, does cat /proc/asound/modules give my card # or id?02:32
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moominskiive just worked out that not all software comes on the cd lol02:33
moominskiwot a newb02:33
ruffianlol02:33
Flonneruffian, try /proc/asound/cards; they'll be listed in order.02:34
billyocmoominski: hey, well, now you know.  :)02:34
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ruffianFlonne: Thank you :)02:34
hybridhello all02:34
moominskibillyoc yeah02:34
therockhris there anyway i can get my main user back in the sudo group?...i cannot sudo or su -02:35
CarlKtherockhr - Live CD02:35
billyoctherockhr: you want that user to be a member of the admin group.02:36
billyoctherockhr: how did it get removed from admin in the first place?02:36
CarlKdoing an install, it is asing "kernel to install" and gives me 3 choices - linux-386, ...-image=386, ...-image-2.6.10...02:37
therockhri didn't add it back when i was adding it to another group02:37
syndoh02:37
dazed|can anyone help me mounting NFS folders...it says connection refused when trying to mount but i can ping each system???02:37
CarlKwhat's the difference?02:37
billyoctherockhr: well, no matter, usermod -G admin thatpooruser02:37
Xirahow do I remove a GNOME applications entry?02:37
therockhrbillyoc: i can't do that because i cannot sudo02:38
CarlKdazed| - paste the line from /etc/exports for the export? you are trying to mount02:38
NilsyNBtherockhr, as CarlK said, boot from a live cd and edit /etc/sudoers02:38
dazed|on which computer CarlK?02:38
ruffianbrb02:38
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CarlKdazed|.. the server02:39
therockhralright thanks02:39
moominskiyes i did i installed mt first icon set feels great too lol02:39
dazed|/home/dazed/Shared InitiaL-Laptop(rw,async)02:39
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CaT[tm] is ubuntu only distributed in cd form?02:40
hybridno02:40
scottjanyone have thinkpad t model? do you use the keyboard driver for thinkpad? is it in ubuntu?02:40
CarlKCaT[tm]  - what else is there?02:40
hybridCat[tm]  you can d/l it and there may be aa torrent out there02:41
CaT[tm] carl: a minimal install and an apt repository for one :)02:41
tannewtscottj, I have a t42 but I run gentoo on it02:41
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CarlKhybrid - there are torrents02:41
scottjtannewt, are you using tkb?02:41
CaT[tm] hybrid: but a cd is what you get?02:41
dazed|carlk: /home/dazed/Shared InitiaL-Laptop(rw,async)02:41
hybridCarlK prolly but they are not officail02:41
tannewtscottj: in X? no just kbd02:41
CarlKhybrid - they are02:41
hybridCaT[tm]  oh yes02:42
NilsyNBCaT[tm] , there is a minimal install cd that gets the rest from the net02:42
CaT[tm] nilsy: selectively?02:42
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moominskiany1 no wy ive got 2 of each filein my home directory?02:42
hybridCarlK there is official torrents?02:42
hybridnice02:42
CarlKCaT[tm]  - also, this may interest you: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LocalNetInstall02:42
NilsyNBcant remember, I just installed everything, bandwidth wasnt a problem nor harddisk space02:43
dazed|CarlK: any ideas?02:43
CarlKhybrid http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/hoary-install-i386.iso.torrent02:44
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CarlKdazed| try changing InitiaL-Laptop to it's IP02:45
kpetersondoes anyone have experience setting up imwheel?02:45
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scottjhow do I remap capslock to control and control to capslock?02:45
zx64Can one install ubuntu from the livecd?02:45
dazed|CarlK: ok ill try but i can ping Initial-Laptop when 'ping Initial-Laptop'02:46
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dazed|CarlK: still gettin this: 'mount: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused'02:46
CarlKdazed|, um... plan b: /etc/init.d/portmap start02:47
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shizoorQuick query - need to install kermit, but it aint in the package install list.  Is ubuntu caldera or slackware or ?02:47
CarlKand forgive my dumbness, but do that on both client and server cuz I am not sure which needs it02:48
CarlKshizoor - debian02:48
shizoorthanks02:48
dazed|CarlK: once started just give it another shot?02:48
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Marble2Can someone please help me, I installed a new hard drive and I had to switch the drive order around and now Ubuntu won't boot up, I get /sbin/init 428: cannot open dev/console every time I boot up. Can someone please help?02:48
dazed|CarlK: still nothing :(02:48
dtswhenever I leave my ssh session sitting arund for a while they eventually die, is there a way to enable some kind of keep aliv02:48
dtse02:48
hybridwhen you apt-get update does it include betas and other bleeding edge versions?02:49
CarlKdazed| - also add no_root_squash to your /etc/exports (stuff)02:49
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CarlKdazed| - here is mine: /ftp/dist/_stresslinux 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 (rw,no_root_squash,insecure)02:49
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dazed|CarlK: just the norootsquash not insecure?02:50
CarlKhybrid - no, unless you enable them02:50
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CarlKdazed| - my guess is you are not specifing a user on the mount command?02:50
dazed|CarlK: nope02:50
hybridCarlK how do i get the bleeding edge releases02:51
CarlKthen start with  norootsquash02:51
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dazed|CarlK: still gettin the error...i think my computer hates me...also im sharing the same folders via smb and the PC folder shows up fine in the "network:///" but the laptop does not show up is it cuz laptop is hoary and pc is warty?02:53
hybrid how do i get the bleeding edge releases with apt-get update02:53
dazed|CarlK: still gettin the error...i think my computer hates me...also im sharing the same folders via smb and the PC folder shows up fine in the "network:///" but the laptop does not show up is it cuz laptop is hoary and pc is warty?02:53
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chavoCaT[tm] , you can do a server install, but you still need to download the whole iso.02:54
CarlKdazed| - na, I nfs between all sorts of linuxes02:54
CaT[tm] chavo: doh. :/02:54
dazed|i wish i could get this silly nfs to work02:55
dazed|its angering me02:55
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CarlKsomeone - synaptic package manager, Settings, repositories, - that is you get cutting edge stuff02:55
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hybridok02:55
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Marble2Can someone please help me, I installed a new hard drive and I had to switch the drive order around and now Ubuntu won't boot up, I get /sbin/init 428: cannot open dev/console every time I boot up.02:58
osityi used the apt-get install openssh-server command and still can't ssh in ,,any idea why not?02:58
fissyMarble2, why did you have to switch the drive order around?02:58
CarlKMarble2 - best to just switch your drives back02:58
Marble2I don't remember exactly what they were like before, and I want to be able to use my new drive02:59
fissyare they both on one ide cable?02:59
Marble2I couldn't fit my 3 drives and one optical drive on my 2 IDE cables without switching them around in my case02:59
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Marble2which ment switching which was on which cable02:59
Marble2*meant02:59
fissycould you move the boot drive in the case so you can put it on the end of the first ide cable?03:00
dazed|CarlK: any other idea03:00
dazed|s03:00
Marble2fissy, right now the boot drive is hda03:00
CarlKdazed| - did you turn on portmap?03:00
dazed|yes03:00
CarlKhmm03:00
Marble2and it is on the end03:00
Marble2I also can't boot to windows, so I think it's something to do with my lilo.conf03:01
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CarlKdazed|  have you found anyting in /var/log/syslog messages and whatever else might be usefull? ;)03:01
dazed|yes i know highly mindboggling03:01
Marble2although not being able to boot to windows happened after I started trying to fix this03:01
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dazed|carlk: let me take a look what should i be looking for?03:01
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CarlKoh wait!03:01
fissyMarble2, have you set the slave drives up as slaves using the jumpers?03:01
Marble2no03:02
Marble2I'm using cselect03:02
Marble2the drive with my linux partition is a master though03:02
CarlKdazed| - /etc/hosts.deny /etc/hosts.allow03:02
fissyno idea what cselect is03:02
fissyoh cable select03:02
dazed|carlK: i found something of interest that i think might be the cause03:02
dazed|CarlK: just type those in command line?03:02
CarlKI tink you need to allow the connection03:02
Marble2yea03:02
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CarlKdazed| - no, they are text files03:03
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fissyare the ubuntu and windows partitions on the same disk?03:03
CarlKdazed| - somene needs to make a check list for all the things that you need to do ;)03:03
Marble2no they are not03:03
dazed|lol03:03
CarlKdazed| - I can alywas get it working, but sometimes it takes me forever03:04
dazed|CarlK: theres just a bunch of #'d out lines in each of these what should i add?03:04
moominskihow do i move a file to a different directory03:04
ruffianIs there anyway to make the icons on the desktop fixed? So even if i do 'Clean up by name' it doesn't move?03:04
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ruffianmoominski: mv file destination03:04
deangis it possible to map  cooandKey+D to minimize/maximize all?03:05
deanger, min/restore03:05
dazed|CarlK: also this is the syslog returned if you notice at the end it says connecting to localhost is that correct : "Mar 31 18:59:26 localhost kernel: nfsd: unexporting all filesystems03:05
dazed|Mar 31 18:59:43 localhost rpc.mountd: Caught signal 15, un-registering and exiting.03:05
dazed|"03:05
fissyMarble2, I don't really know what to suggest, there are so many permuations. perhaps try unplugging all the drives but the ubuntu boot disk, and see if it still works on its own. I'd try setting the right drives to be slaves as you plug them in03:05
geppy|zZzZAnyone build Luminosity on Ubuntu?03:05
CarlKdazed| - that looks like a problem03:05
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Marble2But why wouldn't my Windows be able to boot up?03:06
dazed|it should be connecting to the host i tell it to not the localhost correct?03:06
Marble2I think I messed something up with lilo while I was trying to fix my linux install03:06
dazed|CarlK: ^03:06
CarlKdazed| - was that message on the client or server?03:06
dazed|i think its the server im not sure which one i set up to be which lol03:07
fissyare you sure you have the right sort of cable to be using cable select Marble2 ?03:07
Marble2yea03:07
Marble2it all worked fine before I rearranged the drive order03:07
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dazed|CarlK: is the server the one i add to /etc/hosts03:07
zerokarmaleftoh man, gimpshop needs to go in universe03:07
CarlKdazed| - yes03:08
dazed|CarlK: cuz i added both computers to hosts03:08
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CarlKdazed| , er the server is the side you need to edit hotss.allow03:08
fissyMarble2, i'm sure it will start working if you specifically make the ubuntu disk and windows disk both masters03:08
fissyMarble2, explicitly03:08
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dazed|CarlK: ok im editing that now what should i add to hosts.allow?03:08
thierry_each time I open a game I get this :03:09
thierry_ALWAYS:audio:audio.c:23:About to initialize audio driver...03:09
thierry_open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy03:09
thierry_this happens with chromium and all other games I tried03:09
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thierry_could anyone help me?03:09
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^thehatsrule^restart esd?03:10
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moominskihow do i access xmms skin folder03:11
^thehatsrule^cd blahblah03:11
CarlKdazed| - /etc/hosts.allow;03:11
CarlKnfs nfsd : ALL@ALL : ALLOW03:11
CarlKdazed| - that isn't perfet, but it works )03:12
dazed|CarlK: i narrowed it down to a new error: "mount: RPC: Remote system error - No route to host"03:12
CarlKdazed| - i think you should use IP's untill you get it working03:12
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moominski^thehatsrule^ yeah i dont no the blahblah bit?03:12
^thehatsrule^use locate or find03:13
Marble2fissy, ok, I'll try it03:13
CarlKdazed| - hey look , I made notes for stting up a knoppix box: http://dev.personnelware.com/carl/phpwiki/index.php?edit=KnoppixNFSserver03:13
CarlKyou will need to hit "edit03:13
dazed|CarlK: i added that to hosts.allow then i tried mounting via ip and i got the old error: "mount: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused"03:13
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CarlK else it looks like crap03:13
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knucksI need help installin the new limewire03:14
thierry_could anyone help me?03:14
CarlKI need help installing daily ubuntu on an nvidia box - any devs in here want to help debug this?03:15
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^thehatsrule^daily ubuntu?03:16
zenwhen^thehatsrule^, he means the daily image03:17
knuckswhats this mean: "must be setuid root" ?03:17
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CarlKcorrect03:17
dazed|CarlK: will you join me in #paste im going to show u my /var/sys/syslog see what u can determine from it?03:18
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s0undt3chhello ppl03:20
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s0undt3chthis weekend I'm going to change my server's OS from FC3 to Ubuntu.... Can anyone give me an Idea how would be best partitioned two 40Gigs HD? It will be a firewall/router/gateway/proxy/Webserver/MailServer....03:22
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CarlKs0undt3ch - put one in a 2nd box that is behind the firewwall ;)03:23
s0undt3chthe basic idea I'm after is how much for each partitions...03:24
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s0undt3ch;)03:24
knucksI cant launch Synaptic!03:24
knucksHELP03:24
s0undt3chOne might also be for aMule's files03:24
CaT[tm] knu: do you have a trebuchet?03:24
s0undt3chrunning everyday long on the server...03:24
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ellsis the new release version of hoary any different than what we have been using, anyone know03:25
CarlKells, if you have been using a Mac, then yes.03:25
DocUbKNucks: type sudo synaptic03:25
DocUbin your shell03:25
brainZzZi have been using mederma03:25
ellsCarlK, ,naw,  pc03:25
knucksknucks@Igor:~ $ sudo synaptic03:25
knuckssudo: must be setuid root03:25
DocUband it'll ask for a password, enter it, and it'll load03:25
brainZzZcss starts automatically when i boot my pc03:25
ellsCarlK, I have been using Hoary for about a month03:26
DocUbdo you have root setup as the main user?03:26
knucksDocUb: I should03:26
pillhi, anyone know how to find install all those headers...xos.h, xlib,h03:26
DocUbok do this...03:26
knucksi dont know why it stopped working03:26
s0undt3chcome on how do you ppl divide your sevrers HD....03:26
knucksit was fine before..03:26
DocUbgoto System > Administration > Users and Groups03:26
hybriddoes anyone know of a document on the next version03:26
deangs0undt3ch: qtParted?03:26
knuckscant get in03:26
hybridbendy i believe is the name03:26
knucks"Failed to run users-admin as user root: Child terminated with 1 status03:26
CarlKs0undt3ch - It depends on what day of the week it is, and I don'thave a Thursday answer03:26
deanghybrid: search the wiki?03:26
DocUbdo you have a password set?03:26
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s0undt3chdeang: thats the tool! k I didnt make myself clear...03:27
knucksI thought i did03:27
DocUbhmm03:27
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pilldoes any one use Ubuntu for development env.03:27
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s0undt3chdeang: how much for each partition03:27
LinuxJonesknucks, your in the account that installed Ubuntu or an account created afterwards ?03:27
s0undt3chwhat should be my considerations...03:27
oXeNpill: what type of dev?03:27
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oXeNi do web programming on it03:27
knucksLinuxJones: account that installed Ubuntu03:28
s0undt3chyeah, a subversion server also...03:28
deangsound: Sorry, I don't know.03:28
knucksthe last thing I did was chmod /usr/bin as 777 :/03:28
pillhow about c03:28
knucksdid that screw it up?03:28
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DocUbshouldn't have03:28
oXeNi dont code C but I am sure it would be plenty sufficient03:28
pillI just can't find some headers under X11/ to compile some program03:28
deangpill: What would be better for C development?03:28
oXeNahh I think he needs help compiling something03:28
deangpill: did you dig through synaptics?03:29
pilldeang: i am having problem with compiling03:29
eyequeueknucks:  you want strangers being able to overwrite apps you may run including as root?03:29
knuckseyequeue: no..03:29
pillyes, I couldn't find which package to install to get some X11 headers03:29
billyoc777 for /usr/bin!03:29
knucksi couldnt transfer some folders i need to...03:29
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eyequeueknucks:  if not, 755 or 775 then03:29
knucks..so i did it cuz its easier for me to drag and drop03:29
crimsunpill: libx11-dev in Hoary, xlibs-dev in Warty03:29
knucksknucks@Igor:~ $ sudo chmod -R 755 /usr03:30
knuckssudo: must be setuid root03:30
knuckscant do anything sudo now03:30
DocUbhmm03:30
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pillthanks, crimsun03:30
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eyequeueknucks:  -rwsr-xr-x  2 root root 95512 2005-03-02 21:10 /usr/bin/sudo03:31
pillI will check it out03:31
eyequeueknucks:  ls -l /usr/bin/sudo03:31
knucksbash: -rwsr-xr-x: command not found03:31
knucksknucks@Igor:~ $ ls -l /usr/bin/sudo03:31
knucks-rwxrwxrwx  2 root root 95512 2005-03-02 16:10 /usr/bin/sudo03:31
pillcrimsun I have installed every xlib* things already03:31
eyequeueknucks:  there's how you broke your box03:31
knuckshows that03:32
eyequeueknucks:  you dind't just say chmod 777 /usr/bin, did you?  you said chmod -R 777 /usr/bin, right?03:32
knucks^yeah03:32
eyequeueknucks:  there's how you broke your box03:32
knuckshow do i fix it then? :(03:32
CaT[tm] owie03:32
pillprobably I should apt-get it03:33
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CaT[tm] knucks: first step chmod g-w,o-w /usr/bin -R03:33
eyequeueCaT[tm] :  he can't, he has no sudo03:33
CaT[tm] knucks: then ask someone else for a listing of theirs and compare what you can. then ask about the files you can't compare03:33
CaT[tm] eye: no root passwd?03:33
knucksno eyequeue..that worked..03:33
knucksactually03:34
knucksno it didnt03:34
eyequeueright03:34
CaT[tm] knucks: can you su?03:34
knucksyeah03:34
eyequeueknucks:  you have a strong linux background?03:34
knucksnot at all03:34
CaT[tm] knucks: su -03:34
CaT[tm] knucks: and go root.03:34
eyequeueknucks:  reinstall will be easiest then03:34
knuckseyequeue: no..03:35
knucksive installed way too much on here03:35
knucksCaT..ok im root03:35
eyequeueknucks:  the alternative is to mount that partion from a rescue disk and change things manually03:35
CaT[tm] knucks: do the above chmod03:35
eyequeueknucks:  but you won't know what to change03:35
billyocknucks: if you don't have a lot of customizations, it might be easier to reinstall.03:35
ilidoes anyone have time to help me with a quick (hopefully) xorg ati question?03:35
knucksbillyoc: i have a lot03:35
knucksCaT[tm] : chmod g-w,o-w /usr/bin -R ?03:35
CaT[tm] knucks: yup03:35
knucksroot@Igor:/home/knucks # chmod g-w,o-w /usr/bin -R03:36
knucksroot@Igor:/home/knucks #03:36
CaT[tm] knucks: cool03:36
CaT[tm] knucks: that secures it at least :)03:36
eyequeueunless he did something -R elsewhere03:36
CaT[tm] true :)03:36
knucksok..now what? :/03:36
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CaT[tm] knucks: there's two things you can do:03:37
eyequeueknucks:  btw, for future reference, /usr/bin should be off limits in a pacakge managed distro, only touch /uysr/local/bin03:37
knucks^k03:37
CaT[tm] knucks: 1. ask people here to send you an ls -laR dump of their /usr/bin and compare03:37
CaT[tm] knucks: 2. apt-get --reinstall install game time :)03:37
eyequeueCaT[tm] :  if they have identical pacakges isntalled, perhaps03:37
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knuckshm so what are the consequences of option 203:37
Marble2fissy, it didn't work03:37
CaT[tm] eye: yes03:38
mengis there a way to allow gain-vv and the regular gaim to co-exist?03:38
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eyequeueknucks:  you will be reinstalling every single pacakge on your box manually with option two.  reinstalling would be much faster03:38
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knucksive done way too much customization on here..03:39
knucksnot to mention i had to rerip and redownload all my music03:39
CaT[tm] knucks: if ubuntu is as good as it's said it is, the consequence will be nothing dire. you'll just reinstalle verything. config files should be preserved03:39
CaT[tm] knucks: but on the absolute save side, do a backup of /etc with tar03:39
knuckshow do i do that?03:39
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CaT[tm] knucks: tar -cvf /path/to/save/spot/etc-backup.tar /etc03:40
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CaT[tm] s/save/safe/ ;)03:40
Marble2Can someone help me? I installed a new hard drive, rearranged my disks, and now I can't boot to windows or linux, I get "NTLDR is missing" when booting to windows and "/sbin/init 248: cannot open dev/console" when booting to linux. Please help me get back on ubuntu. :(03:40
Flonne~/etc-backup.tar is a sane location, knucks.03:40
eyequeueCaT[tm] :  remember, this guy has not background, he did the breakage to "drag and drop" so he won't have the skills to repair that you might03:40
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CaT[tm] eye: doesn't mean that his mind is read-only :)03:40
chavoif you add p, tar cvfp - it will preserve file permissions03:41
robertjMarble: my guess is that the bootloader wasn't on the drive that's now your primary drive03:41
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eyequeueCaT[tm] :  yeah, but he's got a lot of man pages out there heh03:41
CaT[tm] eye: this is a good excercise to learn from.03:41
Marble2what is my primary drive?03:41
moominskiwhere is the xmms skin directory03:41
knuckstar -cvf /home/knucks/etc-backup.tar /etc03:41
robertjMarble: the one that gets booted by default03:41
knuckswould that do it?03:41
CaT[tm] knucks: yup.03:41
robertjit will only try to boot off the first hard drive03:41
Marble2Well I have lilo setup to just give me a list of options03:41
randabisMarble2: you can't just randomly rearrange disks like that lol03:41
CaT[tm] eye: gotta start somewhere. :)03:41
knucksand what do i do after that?03:41
Marble2yea, i see that now03:41
Marble2I thought I could03:42
Marble2:(03:42
FlonneWow. Pressing the power button does init 0.03:42
knucksu said something about save/save?03:42
robertjMarble: do you get LILO at all?03:42
Marble2yes03:42
Marble2I get all my options03:42
CaT[tm] knucks: this is the fun bit.03:42
eyequeueCaT[tm] :  man tar? :)03:42
Marble2but booting to Windows and Linux error out03:42
CaT[tm] knucks: dpkg --get-selections03:42
thierry_open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy03:42
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CaT[tm] knucks: that'll give you a list of things you have installed.03:42
robertjOk, well my guess is that where Ubuntu used to be, there is now a Windows partition and probably vice versa03:42
thierry_could any help me?03:42
randabisMarble2: you're going to have to reconfigure lilo03:42
knuckshold on im savin right now03:42
robertjDo you have a live cd handy:03:42
Marble2but, I think I broke windows booting while trying to fix linux, because windows problem just started. linux had been happening since I messed with the disks03:42
Marble2know what I mean?03:42
Marble2I'm on a live cd atm03:43
randabisthe question is though...why are you using lilo...it sucks :p03:43
robertjMarble: yeah, I'd try installing grub03:43
knucksok..03:43
knucksdpkg --get-selections03:43
Marble2I tried updating fstab and lilo.conf03:43
knucksdid that03:43
robertjbut its going to be nasty03:43
knucksnow what03:43
Marble2uh, i tried that, it won't work from a live cd chrooted in03:43
CaT[tm] knucks: try this and see if you're lucky :)03:43
robertjyou probably need to boot the windows disk in repair mode nad use some commands to redo the windows mbr03:43
Marble2it just dumps tons of errors03:43
CaT[tm] knucks: apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1`03:43
FlonneMarble2, what was your install command?03:43
Marble2apt-get install grub03:43
i0n_st0rmi've got a little sound trouble issue.. found a forums post similar to my problem, but thought a bit more hands on advice may be of help03:43
robertjMarble2: you need to mount -o bind /dev /mnt/mypartition/dev03:43
Marble2okay let me try it03:44
knucksknucks@Igor:~ $  apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1`03:44
knucksE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)03:44
knucksE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?03:44
eyequeuelol03:44
knucksand when i try to use sudo, i get the setuid root error03:44
Amaranthsudo03:44
CaT[tm] knucks: as root :)03:44
oXeNhow do I change the splash and login screens?03:44
CaT[tm] knucks: su -03:44
oXeNwith ubuntu/gnome03:44
eyequeueAmaranth:  he broke his sudo with a chmod -R 777 /usr/bin03:44
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Flonnerobertj, marble, you should also cp /proc/mounts to /mnt/mypartition/etc/mtab.03:45
CaT[tm] knucks: I bet sudo is in /usr/bin and you nuked the permissions to make it work03:45
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robertjFlonne: does grub check that?03:45
DocUbthat would suck03:45
Amaranthand you can't chmod anymore either?03:45
knucksE: Broken packages03:45
eyequeueCaT[tm] :  <knucks> -rwxrwxrwx  2 root root 95512 2005-03-02 16:10 /usr/bin/sudo03:45
Flonnerobertj, yes, it uses that as a fallback for locating /boot/ under certain circumstances. It's a safe precaution.03:45
knucksI got a lot of "cannot be downloaded" errors03:45
Marble2hm robertj, look at this03:45
Marble2root@ttyp1[knoppix] # mount -o bind /dev/hda4 /mnt/hda4/dev03:45
Marble2mount: Not a directory03:45
Marble2root@ttyp1[knoppix] # ls /mnt/hda4/03:45
Marble2dev03:45
Marble2wth?03:45
CaT[tm] eye: su is your friend :)03:45
robertjMarble: no03:46
robertjmount /dev/hda4 /mnt/mydrive03:46
Marble2?03:46
Marble2oh03:46
i0n_st0rmmight there be anyone about that could give me a small hand with a sound issue when they have a moment? I promise to make it as short and painless as possible :)03:46
CaT[tm] knucks: that box have either the cd or net access atm?03:46
FlonneMarble2, /dev/hda4 is a block device. -o bind expects a directory.03:46
robertjthen mount -o bind /dev /mnt/mydrive/dev03:46
knucksCaT: the box im triyng to fix is this here one03:46
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CaT[tm] knucks: ah. hmmm03:47
Marble2robertj, is that chrooted or no?03:47
mebaran151hmmm03:47
FlonneMarble2, no.03:47
Marble2ok done03:47
mebaran151Anyone know when Gimp print 5.0 is going to be comitted03:47
Marble2now what03:47
mebaran151I would like to use it03:47
CaT[tm] knucks: ok03:47
mebaran151as my Epson R800 is only supported in this new pkg03:47
eyequeuemebaran151:  how does it differ?03:47
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CaT[tm] knucks: dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1 >~/moo03:47
robertjMarble: before the chroot03:47
mebaran151eyequeue, it supports the Epson R80003:47
Marble2ok, I did that03:47
FlonneMarble2, now you chroot in, but wait for robertj to confirm it.03:47
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eyequeuemebaran151:  k03:47
knucksCaT: ok03:47
CaT[tm] knucks: apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1`03:47
codymanwhat apt-get package installs glib03:48
mebaran151(my printere :) )03:48
Marble2to /mnt/hda4 or /mnt/hda4/dev03:48
knucksstill get the broken packages error03:48
CaT[tm] knucks: then make a list of those packages that cannot be downloaded and open up moo in an editor and remove them from the list03:48
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CaT[tm] knucks: then apt-get --reinstall install `cat ~/moo`03:48
FlonneMarble2, /mnt/mypartition/03:48
knucksmoo?03:48
Marble2okay done03:48
Marble2now what03:48
robertjMarble: once you have bound /dev to /mnt/foo/dev then chroot to /mnt/foo03:48
Marble2okay, I did that. Now what03:49
robertjsudo apt-get install grub03:49
Flonnerobertj, I'll let you take over again so we avoid confusion.03:49
robertjFlonne: ok03:49
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codymani'm compiling something that needs glib.. what glib package do i need from apt-get03:50
eyequeue-dev03:50
knuckswhats moo?03:50
eyequeuebrowse through synaptic03:51
mebaran151porbably glib-dev03:51
codymangrazi03:51
eyequeuemay have version numbers in it03:51
Marble2robertj, I'm chrooted in, should I apt-get install grub now?03:51
eyequeuedevs often seem to03:51
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mebaran151apt is pretty clever though03:51
robertjMarble2: yes03:51
eyequeueun  libglib1.1-dev <none>         (no description available)03:52
eyequeuepn  libglib1.2-dev <none>         (no description available)03:52
eyequeueun  libglib1.3-dev <none>         (no description available)03:52
eyequeueii  libglib2.0-dev 2.6.3-1        Development files for the GLib library03:52
knucksok im lost03:52
eyequeuethat's on hoary, take you pick03:52
CaT[tm] knucks: where at?03:52
knuckswhats moo?03:52
knucksi did apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1`03:52
knucksnow what03:52
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CaT[tm] knucks the file you created with...03:52
CaT[tm] knucks: dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1 >~/moo03:52
knucksk now what03:53
CaT[tm] ?03:53
knucksi did dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1 >~/moo03:53
knucksnow what03:53
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CaT[tm] knucks: apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1`03:54
CaT[tm] knucks: then make a list of those packages that cannot be downloaded and open up moo in an editor and remove them from the list03:54
codymanwhat apt-get package installs gtk files03:54
knuckswhere is moo?03:54
PyreI'll tell you where moo is. moo (aka moo) is connected to this server and is currently in . They have been idle for 10 minutes, 1 second.03:54
CaT[tm] knucks: ~/moo03:54
Marble2robertj, what xserver driver should I pick?03:54
CaT[tm] knucks: ~ means home directory03:54
brainZzZi dont remove comment from the listen (no telnet)03:54
robertjMarble2: for grub?03:54
Marble2yes03:54
robertjit shouldn't ask you that03:54
Marble2it does...03:54
robertjjust press enter03:54
knucksahh ok03:54
knucksin moo right now03:54
robertjit probably had pending config stuff that was never done03:54
mebaran151ok03:55
mebaran151so gimp print 5.003:55
mebaran151any cahnce of it being comitted to the repos soon03:55
brainZzZinstead of me having to download 35 megs of hp drivers and another 6 megs of gimp print drivers03:55
CaT[tm] knucks: just have to see what apt-get whingest about and remove it from the list there.03:55
Marble2okay, it's prompting me about gdm.conf03:55
Marble2what should I pick03:55
Marble2should I choose the default?03:56
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Marble2okay robertj, grub installed03:57
robertjtype grub, everything look good03:57
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knucksCaT[tm] : ok removed the packages in moo. saved moo. now what03:58
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hybridwill the ubuntu developers release breezy before the official release of hoary? or will we have to wait untill monday03:59
robertjif so, reboot03:59
robertjhybrid: my guess will be a few days after03:59
Marble2Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.03:59
hybridsigh03:59
Marble2it is taking a long time :(03:59
robertjwhat are you waiting for?03:59
Marble2me?03:59
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hybridrobertj something to fix03:59
knuckshm?04:00
hybridrobertj hoary is too stable i want some betas to test and fix and so on04:00
robertjhybrid: recompile some stuff from cvs then04:00
hybridrobertj what is cvs04:01
hybrid?04:01
i0n_st0rmi've got a DSP-500 USB headset.. and while i have found a forum post somewhat similar to my problem, i'm not sure exactly how to fix my problem. the headset doesn't use your sound card, but the only module that i show in /proc/asound/modules is for the sound card.. i get *some* sound out of my headset but it doesn't work right04:01
i0n_st0rmanyone happen to know how i might go about solving that?04:02
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Marble2uh robertj it moved away from the probing devices screen, but it doesn't list any drives or partitions now04:02
dazed|have u tried configging the device's volume?04:02
black_nightmarehey there again :p04:02
Marble2it just gives me a list of commands I can run04:02
i0n_st0rmthe device's volume?04:02
FlonneMarble2, do you see a "grub>"-like prompt?04:03
dazed|through alsa config?04:03
Marble2yes04:03
i0n_st0rmas best i can tell, i should be running on snd_usb_audio rather than snd_emu10k104:03
i0n_st0rmbut i don't have snd_usb_audio installed it seems04:03
FlonneAre you familiar with your partition structure?04:03
Marble2yes04:03
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i0n_st0rmfairly so.. i'm not totally new to linux, but hardly a guru04:04
FlonneDo you understand how GRUB identifies partitions?04:04
Marble2No04:04
crimsuni0n_st0rm: please paste lsmod and cat /proc/asound/modules output to pastebin.com04:04
Flonne(hd0,0) = /dev/hda104:04
Flonne(hd0,3) = /dev/hda404:04
Marble2how do i view the stuff it found04:04
CaT[tm] knucks: then apt-get --reinstall install `cat ~/moo`04:04
Marble2in it's probe?04:04
CaT[tm] knucks: sorry. missed what you said with all the stuf happening here04:04
hybridrobertj what is cvs?04:05
FlonneMarble2, does that make sense?04:05
Marble2yes04:05
^thehatsrule^concurrent version system? (guess)04:05
^thehatsrule^or something like that04:05
billyocdingdingding04:05
oXeN_anyone know what repository i need to install svn ?04:05
knucksugh i didnt remove all the packages04:05
knucksit'd be nice to see what others have..04:05
FlonneMarble2, do you have a separate /boot/ partition?04:05
knucksi can ultimately get the packages reinstalled04:05
FlonneoXeN_, apt-get install subversion04:05
Marble2uh, it's there yes04:05
Marble2but I don't know if I use it04:06
i0n_st0rmok i pasted the lsmod04:06
zkl|campusmmm...new nvidia drivers to break hoary with heh04:06
oXeN_thanks I was sayinv svn instead of subversion04:06
black_nightmarejust wondering for a stupid question but -- would it be difficult to make your own private repositories? (aside to the bandwidth issue that is)04:06
crimsunno, it's very simple to make your own private repos04:06
i0n_st0rmthe cat /proc/asound/modules is rather simple.. 0 snd_emu10k104:06
FlonneMarble2, how did you create it? If you let the Ubuntu installer take care of it, then it should be used.04:06
knucksapt-get --reinstall install04:06
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Marble2yes, ubuntu installer created it04:06
Marble2it's used then04:07
i0n_st0rmhttp://pastebin.com/26547304:07
knucksroot@Igor:/home/knucks # apt-get --reinstall install04:07
knucksReading Package Lists... Done04:07
knucksBuilding Dependency Tree... Done04:07
knucks0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 329 not upgraded.04:07
FlonneMarble2, "root (hd0,2)" where 0,2 is replaced by your boot partition.04:07
FlonneMarble2, it should tell you what type of filesystem it is.04:07
i0n_st0rmah ok.. i see that the snd_usb_audio is there.. but apparently not configured in04:07
Marble2grub>04:07
Marble2      root (hd0,3)04:07
Marble2 Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x8204:07
Marble2hd0,3 would be hda4 right?04:08
FlonneYes.04:08
FlonneThat's somewhat alarming.04:08
Marble2yes, it is somewhat alarming04:08
black_nightmarecrimsun...ty..I was curious about slowly learning about compiling a custom kernel..then to figure some kind of minimal desktop and add apt-get to that....then also yeah see about my own repositories to go alone with that04:08
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crimsuni0n_st0rm: its functionality is blocked by the presence of an oss module: audio04:08
brainZzZgillllll somewhat..u?04:08
FlonneCan you open a new terminal and run "fdisk -l /dev/hda"?04:08
black_nightmareits a crazy thought so far but I'm working on reading the kernel documents04:08
i0n_st0rmhmm.. how do i go about fixing that?04:08
Marble2knoppix@ttyp2[knoppix] $ fdisk -l /dev/hda04:08
Marble2Cannot open /dev/hda04:08
crimsuni0n_st0rm: are you using Warty or Hoary?04:09
Flonneblack_nightmare, compiling a custom kernel is easy.04:09
i0n_st0rmwarty04:09
FlonneMarble2, su/sudo to root first.04:09
i0n_st0rmgot my cd's in the mail a few days ago and decided to install :)04:09
Marble2Disk /dev/hda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes04:09
Marble2255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders04:09
Marble2Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes04:09
Marble2   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System04:09
Marble2/dev/hda1              11        7748    62155485    7  HPFS/NTFS04:09
Marble2/dev/hda2            7749       10359    20972857+   7  HPFS/NTFS04:09
Marble2/dev/hda3           10360       20802    83883397+   7  HPFS/NTFS04:09
Marble2/dev/hda4   *       20803       24321    28266367+  82  Linux swap04:09
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black_nightmareflonne...well...I'm not so complete sure I understand the specific documents yet...hehe so.....04:09
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black_nightmarebut then...well maybe hopefully I can already have my own running kernel on the 68k mac by end of april or who knows?04:10
i0n_st0rmam i reading that right.. marble2 has a linux swap but no actual linux partitions?04:10
FlonneMarble2, do you have two harddrives?04:10
Marble2304:10
crimsuni0n_st0rm: ok, that's the issue, then; Warty's blacklist is outdated.  This is fixed in Hoary.  For now, you can do this:  echo "audio" | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/alsa-base04:10
FlonneMarble2, what's on the others?04:10
Flonnei0n_st0rm, yes; it looks that way.04:10
CaT[tm] knuck: did you include the full line I gave you?04:10
i0n_st0rmshould i upgrade to hoary?04:10
Marble2one has 1 partition, that's my windows disk. The other is a 160 gig ntfs disk with no files on it04:11
crimsuni0n_st0rm: well regardless, in 8 days, you should =)04:11
crimsuni0n_st0rm: but the workaround I demonstrated above will work now after you reboot04:11
i0n_st0rmhehe :)04:11
i0n_st0rmi did it04:11
i0n_st0rmso just reboot now?04:11
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crimsuni0n_st0rm: yep.04:11
cyklusj #debian04:11
cyklusups04:11
dazed|lol...can u update directly from a cd because im on 56k and if update via synaptic or something it would take me years?04:11
i0n_st0rmokies.. *runs off to reboot*04:11
FlonneMarble2, run "fdisk -l /dev/hd[bc] " (don't show us the contents unless there are Linux drives there)04:11
crimsundazed|: sure.04:11
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Marble2those are the other 2 drives04:12
Marble2both ntfs04:12
dazed|crimsun: how would i do it if i were to do it from a install cd?04:12
Marble2no linux04:12
dazed|crimsun: would it recognize that ihave a prev. ver of ubuntu installed?04:12
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FlonneMarble2, it looks as though your Ubuntu installation has been overwritten...04:12
cyklusI'm looking to encrypt sensitive files on my harddrive... can anyone recommend a way to do this?04:13
Marble2how is that04:13
crimsundazed|: no need to run the installer.  Just insert the cd and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:13
Marble2I can chroot in to it04:13
black_nightmareflonne...heh the only one thing I'm kinda trying to ponder on is about amount of ram... :p04:13
FlonneBut it shows up as NTFS.04:13
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Marble2and when I did fdisk -l on it (when I could boot to ubuntu) it listed it as Linux/swap04:13
dazed|crimsun: and it will install the packages from the cd instead of downloading it off of the repo's?04:13
Marble2/dev/hda4   *       20803       24321    28266367+  82  Linux swap04:13
Marble2doesn't look like ntfs to me?04:13
Marble2I'm confused04:13
zkl|campusthat's your swap partition04:13
martinhjcrimsun, I'm no expert, but he have to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the online archives?04:13
FlonneMarble2, Linux/swap doesn't actually contain real data, unless I'm horribly mistaken.04:14
zkl|campusyour root filesystem for linux would be of type 83 instead of 8204:14
FlonneIt's possible it can, but I've never seen it done beyond random experiments I've done.04:14
Marble2uh, it's always been shown as Linux swap and I always stored real data on it04:14
martinhjabout dazed upgrading from warty to hoary04:14
FlonneMarble2, I... guess we can try, but this is a very unusal setup, so I can't make any promises. :(04:14
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dazed|martinhj: thats what would think id need to do04:15
Marble2that's fine04:15
black_nightmareflonne...is it usually the kernel or just X/desktop that is the main use of physical ram?04:15
black_nightmarejust curious04:15
fatpelthas anyone seen this error and know how to fix it? "java.awt.AWTException: cannot open XIM"04:15
kbrooksXIM? FUCK04:15
Flonneblack_nightmare, it's your apps; the kernel will run in a very small amount quite easily.04:15
i0n_st0rmokies.. my cat /proc/asound/modules now shows snd_usb_audio in the 0 slot :)04:15
dazed|i mean my laptops got hoary cuz i got wireless card and its portable lol04:15
fatpeltkbrooks:  that bad huh?04:15
black_nightmareflonne...ah thats what I had been wondering..so I guess that makes the thought of this kernel a lot EASIER :p04:16
Krys_i'm having a major problem trying to play mp3's in 'music player'.. it says.. could not open resource for writing, then 'could not pause playback' anyone know how to fix this?04:16
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black_nightmareflonne.. 68k mac's oftenly didn't have much ram at all to start with anyhow04:16
Marble2Flonne, so what do I do?04:16
FlonneMarble2, okay, chroot in with the other terminal (no mounting required), and `ls /boot/` -- see if it lists anything like "vmlinuz".04:16
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i0n_st0rmi'd like to thank you, crimsun. i saw that you were the one that helped the person in the forum post i saw :)04:16
Marble2yes04:16
Marble25 vmlinuz things04:16
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Lizi just upgraded on hoary, and now i have display at all04:17
FlonneOkay. Let's pretend you don't have a separate /boot/ partition and see where this goes. (Non-destructive)04:17
i0n_st0rmahh.. sound! :-D04:17
black_nightmarelikewise take these examples: powerbook 145B > 8mb of ram original ......... LC475 alak "pizzabox" = 4mb onboard (or if rarely-foundable, can go to 68mb or 132mb max with one angled simm)04:17
Lizcan anyone help me get my display back please?04:17
FlonneGo back to the one with the grub prompt.04:17
Marble2okay04:17
FlonneRun "setup (hd0)".04:17
black_nightmareI might have to figure lynx and so on for internet just to save on ram as well04:17
martinhjis there any way to edit id3-tags on mp3s in rhythmbox?04:18
Krys_i0n_st0rm,  know how to get my sound runnin?04:18
Marble2Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition04:18
crimsuni0n_st0rm: np04:18
crimsundazed|: / martinhj: yes, dazed| would need to have only the deb cdrom entry04:18
i0n_st0rmkrys: i went through the ubuntu tweak stuff on the forums like a week ago.. crimsun was just helping me with my headset not working04:18
DanglyBitsubuntu noobie question...how can i get acrobat 7 reader on my ubuntu system04:18
FlonneMarble2, can you PM me the contents of /etc/fstab? (use the non-grub chroot)04:18
cyklusI'm looking to encrypt sensitive files on my harddrive... can anyone recommend a way to do this?04:18
Lizive tried loggin into the previous kernel, thats in grub, but even that wont work..the only wayh i can log into ubuntu at all is on the backup safe mode, but then i dont know how to get around via command line to make it work04:18
crimsunDanglyBits: if you're running Hoary, you can use debian-marillat04:19
Krys_the funny thing is.. I have my headset plugged in, and if i say something, I can hear it come to the speakers.. but I can't get mp3's to work sadly04:19
i0n_st0rmhmm04:19
i0n_st0rmwhat kind of headset?04:19
Krys_cheap kind, i dont know the name and its not written on it.. so the headset works I just can't music player to play me music haha04:19
i0n_st0rmhehe04:19
i0n_st0rmmy problem was with a usb headset..04:19
Krys_never seen those before04:20
DanglyBitscrimsun, I am using hoary..how does it work..debian-marillat04:20
i0n_st0rmi'm honestly not all that highly knowledgeable when it comes to specifics04:20
Krys_heh, allright.. I'm super new to ubuntu.. installed it lastnigt so ur'e probably more knowledgable than me04:21
Lizmy problem with sound was that it was using the wrong sound driver file04:21
i0n_st0rmlol04:21
Lizi had to change hte option in xmms to get mine to work04:21
i0n_st0rmkrys: are you new to linux04:21
Krys_yeah.. sorta04:21
i0n_st0rmthen i *might* know more than you04:21
crimsunDanglyBits: add that repo using Synaptic or an editor.  See http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats04:21
Krys_I've used debian before, but basically just to talk on gaim or irc, lol04:21
Krys_what'd you have to change liz?04:22
Krys_the output plugin?04:22
Roeyhey all04:22
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Lizhe default files now esound, and i wasnt using that before04:22
i0n_st0rmi'm primarilly a windows user (for gaming purposes and school), but i enjoy linux.. i've been through SuSE, debian, mdk, and gentoo (god if that's not one to drive a crazy man sane)04:22
comfreyhey all04:22
Krys_yeah I changed that, didn't work04:22
crimsunKrys_: cat /proc/asound/modules04:22
Lizhyou could also check in alsamixer to see if one of the options has been muted as well Krys_04:23
comfreyif i want to enable routing from eth1 through to eth0 what is the best way?04:23
CarlKi0n_st0rm - Was it GENerally TOO much work? ;)04:23
neighborleei0n_st0rm, ;-)04:23
Krys_its not that it plays and I dont hear it.. I get an error04:23
black_nightmarelol i0n_st0rm -- I'm trying to figure the kernel documents as to figure building my own kernel for a particular 68k mac I got :p04:23
black_nightmarehehehe04:23
comfreyi know i can use shorewall. but shurely there is a simpler way04:23
Lizcrimsun..any idea on my problem with my display?04:23
cyklusI'm looking to encrypt sensitive files on my harddrive... can anyone recommend a way to do this?04:23
cartel_cyklus: bestcrypt, lvm04:23
CarlKcyklus - there is also IDE encryption that will encryp the whole drive04:24
i0n_st0rmeep.. now that i have sound it's way loud lol.. *goes to do research on alsa*04:24
Lizheh..i had to borrow a laptop to be able to chat04:25
Lizto fix my problem04:25
crimsunKrys_: it'd greatly assist me if you answered my question04:27
crimsunLiz: to avoid scrollback, please summarise04:27
Krys_crimsun, sorry I didn't see that you said anything to me04:27
Krys_what was it?04:27
crimsun21:22 < crimsun> Krys_: cat /proc/asound/modules04:27
Lizi upgraded using apt-get upgrade after an update.now when i log in, i have no display. nothing at all04:27
Lizits just a blank screen04:28
Krys_i'm extremely new to linux, so what does that mean?04:28
crimsunKrys_: open a Terminal and type that command (cat /proc/asound/modules)04:28
crimsunLiz: with current Hoary, as of an hour ago?04:28
Krys_okay04:28
Lizcrimsun yes04:28
Lizim not familiar enough with command line to fix it ..even if i knew what i was looking for04:29
martinhjLiz, where does the screen blank? when the kernel loads right after you select one in the boot-loader?04:29
Krys_0 snd_usb_audio............... 1 snd_emu10kl04:29
Lizmartinhj, no, it loads that..its when i get to the gdm, that i get nothing04:29
Lizno display what so ever04:29
Lizeven booting into the previous kernel before th eupdate, i got the same thing04:30
crimsunKrys_: some headsets are not capable of such playback04:30
Lizso im gussing it was the update i did last night that caused it, cause i shut down at night04:30
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DanC_ubhmm... I'm (still) trying to figure out how to do midi keyboard stuff with ubuntu. the whole I gather ALSA is a safe bet over OSS by now, but a lot of apps still just want to open /dev/dsp ... then there's esd vs polypaudio which I haven't really figured out at all... I think I grok jackd, but the whole low-latency/security thing is messy... and then gstreamer is a whole other layer of confusion04:30
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Krys_I'm not worried about the playback. I moreso want the speakers to work04:30
Krys_err.. headsets*04:30
Lizthis morning i was able to log into one of the safe mode backups, and get to a root prompt04:31
Lizi did another update and upgrade this morning via that..and rebooted04:31
Lizand still a blank screen04:31
crimsunKrys_: in what way?  It's best if you used the sblive/audigy for playback instead04:31
martinhjLiz, can you try to boot into ubuntu through the old rescue-choice you got in grub04:31
Lizmartinhj im currently booted into that now..04:31
Krys_its my speakers I want to hear out of, not the headset..04:31
Lizbut no display04:32
martinhjLiz, can you do a ls -l /etc/X11 and tell me if you can see a xorg.conf or X86Config file?04:32
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kh4nhhi guyes04:32
Krys_I just thought of something04:32
Krys_so let me try it04:32
crimsunDanC_ub: it's really fairly straightforward.  ALSA and OSS are both driver APIs; Ubuntu uses the former.  Esound (and its successor, polypaudio) can use either ALSA or OSS.  Jack-it (jackd) can use either ALSA or OSS, but its preferred platform on Linux is ALSA.04:33
kh4nhhow do you add path?04:33
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dex1Hi, I'm having trouble with an Ubuntu install, under Vmware on an XP machine. It all went fine (got into Gnome etc) and then it came to running the VMware tools from text mode. Which I did. Now it's rebooted it can't/won't start the X server. I'm running the VMWare install again (this time I'd run sudo aptitude install build-essential beforehand since it complained originally). Can anyone help? it's complaining about not being able to find stuff.04:33
Lizmartinhj, i have a config file for xorg, and X8604:33
i0n_st0rmCarlK: lol.. it got to be after the nth failed attempt at a stage x install04:33
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dex1at: http://pastebin.ca/857504:33
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crimsunDanC_ub: basically, it looks like:  hardware > Linux > ALSA/OSS > JACK/ESounD/polypaudio[/Gstreamer]  > Gstreamer > Some application04:34
DanC_ubok, crimsun, so what do I do to make sound come out of the machine when I press a key on this midi keyboard? There's some server mode for timidity, but it didn't seem to get along with polypaudio04:34
Lizwell its XF86Config-404:34
Krys_crimsun, I had a microsoft thing plugged in via USB .. and I had my speakers and headset plugged into it. I now plugged my speakers directly to the computer. Are there some kind of settigns I need to change to get the speakers to work?04:34
Jamminpotatoi need assitance: when i tried to dual boot into windowss after installing hoary it says "NTLDR missing press ctrl+alt+del to restart"04:34
dazed|Liz u still on warty?04:34
kh4nhhow do u add path04:34
martinhjLiz, thats OK04:34
Jamminpotatois it fixable, if so how04:34
Lizdazed| no, hoary04:34
DanC_ubwhere does timidity fit in, crimsun? or does gstreamer do software midi synth?04:35
dazed|Liz: same thing happened to me on warty ...why i was asking04:35
crimsunKrys_: probably best if you used the sblive.04:35
Krys_what's sblive?04:35
Lizdazed| i never had a problem on warty at all. heh04:35
i0n_st0rmsound blaster live! sound card04:35
DanC_ubdoes gstreamer get along with jackd, I wonder? and does ubuntu support low-latency?04:35
crimsunDanC_ub: Timidity is software MIDI. It sits on top of ALSA/OSS.04:35
Jamminpotatoanyone know how i can get rid of the NTLDR missing error04:36
dazed|Liz: it was my fault while installing packages comp got shutdown cuz of a storm so gdm was corrupted and and had to reconfig xorg and reinstall gdm04:36
DanC_ubso I should turn off polypaudio, crimsun?04:36
crimsunDanC_ub: Gstreamer does not grok MIDI as far as I know04:36
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brainZzZbut @msn.com is for their isp customers, as far as i know.04:36
crimsunDanC_ub: gstreamer does work with JACK; it has a JACK output04:36
martinhjLiz, can you try to use the commando "startx" and press <ctrl>+<alt>+<f1> after the screen turns black (it should) and check the messages that command gives04:36
JamminpotatoANYONE? i really need this fixe bfore tommorow04:37
crimsunDanC_ub: Ubuntu has not merged the realtime-lsm or any additional low-latency kernel patches beyond what 2.6.10 provides04:37
dex1Anyone want to volunteer for trailblazing aka getting Ubuntu working under Vmware (with vmware tools - the thorny problem)04:37
crimsunKrys_: are you using Hoary?04:37
martinhjJamminpotato, ntldr is the nt loader - windows stuff04:37
DanC_ubI think I saw a source package for realtime-lsm; is that the state-of-the-art?04:37
moominskiwots a good program for playin vob files04:37
martinhjJamminpotato, do you want to boot ubunto?04:38
martinhjs/o/u04:38
crimsunDanC_ub: it's the most promising option at the moment04:38
Jamminpotatomartinhj, i cna boot unbuntu i want to boto windows04:38
Lizmartinhj typing that says command not found04:38
dazed|is there a program to play wmv files?04:38
Krys_I think so yes04:38
Lizim in a root prompt remember04:38
brainZzZi think someone else did it.. someone in the opposite trade week as mine04:38
crimsundazed|: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats04:38
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martinhjLiz, "startx" with all lowercase and all?04:38
martinhjshould be there04:38
Jamminpotatomartinhj, i but ubuntu on the sedond partition of my hdd and it runs fine, but the NTLDR is gone and i cant boot XP and i have a lan party tommorw :(04:38
dazed|liz, sounds like ur x is corrupt if startx doesnt work04:39
Lizmartinhj yep04:39
dex1So what *is* the directory of C header files that match my running kernel? :/ [http://pastebin.ca/8575] 04:39
randabissounds like someone installed linux to "be cool" lolz04:39
martinhjJamminpotato, grub is there?04:39
Lizi updated it this morning dazed|..04:39
DanC_ubhmm... crimsun, do you think a midi keyboard should work reasonably well without realtime/jack-it?04:39
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PacoBCNwhile we talk about this all let's put some background music, dudes: http://www.somafm.com/secretagent.pls04:39
martinhjJamminpotato, and you can boot ubuntu still?04:39
crimsunDanC_ub: yes.04:39
Jamminpotatomartinhj, i believe so grub/lilo04:39
dazed|Liz: im just lost then lol04:39
crimsundex1: vmware configuration is _awful_04:39
Jamminpotatomartinhj, i can boot ubuntu rgr04:39
geppyDanC_ub: JACK is a sound server, you could probably just use straight ALSA or OSS04:40
crimsundex1: /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:40
martinhjJamminpotato, and you could boot windows from grub before?04:40
dex1crimsun: But works well once it's up and running right?04:40
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geppyDanC_ub: But realtime-lsm and jackd are easy enough to install ;)04:40
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crimsundex1: not in my experience04:40
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Jamminpotatomartinhj. i installed ubuntu yester day and i've booted into it three times, i tried XP and it gave me the NTLDR missing error04:40
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dex1Well since Ubuntu ko'd the compaq machine despite both our efforts (unsupported S3 cards etc) I'm risking everything on this machine so it'll have to be a virtual system04:41
martinhjLiz, maybe apt-get install xorg-common could work if you got net access04:41
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DanC_ubwell, geppy, I'd like to do something that ubuntu will work reasonably well with... i.e. I'd like to be able to play .ogg files by clicking on them one minute and play the midi keyboard the next without reconfiguring everything in between.This machine is for my kids04:41
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Lizill give that a go04:41
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geppyDanC_ub: Would you like help installing realtime-lsm and JACK?04:41
dex1*not risking04:41
DanC_ubI gather that polypaudio is the ubutuntu way, but I don't see how to get something like timidity to work with polypaudio04:42
revelaterso why would bittornado crash shortly after connecting?04:42
geppyDanC_ub: Ah, yeah.04:42
crimsunDanC_ub: actually esd is what both Warty and Hoary use.04:42
Lizmartinhj i already have the latest version installed04:42
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geppycrimsun: Just out of curiosity, what caused the switch back to ESD?04:42
DanC_ubphpht. really? esd? polypaudio seems to start running magically somehow04:42
crimsunDanC_ub: timidity only needs a pcm output, like /dev/dsp*04:42
crimsunDanC_ub: are you running current Hoary?04:42
crimsungeppy: !i386 arches have major problems with polypaudio04:43
DanC_ubyes, this machine is current w.r.t. hoary. I just did a dist-upgrade sometime this week04:43
geppycrimsun: Oh, alright.04:43
DanC_ubcrikey... 138 updates available already, though!04:43
crimsunDanC_ub: you can continue to use polypaudio, as I do, or you can reinstall esound04:43
Jamminpotatomartinhj, i've never booted windows from grub04:43
DanC_ubhmm... polypaudio doesn't seem to be running just now. How do I start it without logout/login? polypaudio -nC ?04:44
revelateranyone here use bittornado?04:44
CheeseBallno04:44
DanC_uboops... no.. that gives me a prompt04:44
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CheeseBalli use azerus04:45
^thehatsrule^how bout bithurricane?04:45
dex1crimsun: /usr/src/linux-headers-$ is not an existing directory (it's running installer now). So presumable where 'me' is my username I should instead enter:04:45
dex1/usr/src/linux-headers-$me-r   ?04:45
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revelatercan i synaptic it04:45
revelater?04:45
^thehatsrule^y not04:45
crimsundex1: you first need to install it.  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:45
randabisrevelater: it's in universe04:45
dex1ill exit the installer :(04:45
Jamminpotatorandabis i need your assitance04:45
randabisin what way?04:46
revelaterrandabis: which one, bithurricane or azuras?04:46
martinhjLiz, maybe it's your path that it is something wrong with.. try /usr/bin/X11/startx04:46
randabisrevelater: bittornado04:46
DanC_ubcrimsun, geppy, I know I could set things up all sorts of different ways... what I'm trying to figure out is: which way will "just work" with the most ubuntu packages?04:46
Jamminpotatorandabis, i tried to boot XP for the first time since installing ubuntu and its says "NTLDR missing" how do i fix it?04:46
revelaterrandabis: i know, but it crashes on me shortly after starting04:46
geppyDanC_ub: ESD or Polypaudio04:46
geppyDanC_ub: I usually use JACK, but it really doesn't work with much.04:47
randabisJamminpotato: by what means are you trying to boot windows?04:47
DanC_ubdoes it matter which? I'm a little more familiar with esd04:47
Lizmartinhj, bash: startx: command not found04:47
geppyDanC_ub: Nah, just use ESD. =)04:47
DanC_ubdo you use realtime, geppy?04:47
Lizeven tho im looking at that file04:47
geppyDanC_ub: Aye.04:47
martinhjJamminpotato, one sollution you could try, is to boot the Windows XP install cd and try to use the rescue command line and try the fixmbr and fixboot - that will ruine the grub boot loader, but you could fix that after your lan party04:47
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Krys_well I guess I can't get mp3's working in linux04:48
geppyKrys_: Why?04:48
DanC_ubactually, geppy, I gather esd is not going to be supported in ubuntu going forward, so I'm interested to learn polypaudio04:48
Jamminpotatorandabis, i elieve grub/lilo, whatever ubuntu does by deafult04:48
martinhjLiz, not only "startx" but type in "/usr/bin/X11/startx"04:48
Krys_it still won't work04:48
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adobbiejust use ALSA for sound04:48
DanC_ub$ man polypaudio04:48
DanC_ubNo manual entry for polypaudio04:48
randabisJamminpotato: if you do what martinhj is suggesting, then you will not be able to boot ubuntu04:48
dex1crimsun: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)". Am I not supposed to take the "$(uname -r" literally and just put -name-r?04:48
geppyDanC_ub: Judging by what crimsun has said, I'm assuming that ESD is going to be used in the future.04:48
DanC_ubwhy, adobbie ?04:48
Krys_geppy,  I get a error everytime I try to play a mp3 file04:48
geppyDanC_ub: Regardless, they're pretty much the same.04:48
geppyKrys_: Enable universe, then 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins'04:49
randabisJamminpotato: post your /boot/grub/menu.lst in #flood or at pastebin.com04:49
Krys_did that04:49
Krys_well actually someone else did it remotely, still isn't working04:49
randabisprobably has nothing to do with it, but I wanna see it anyway04:49
DanC_ubwierd... I type esd and I see a bunch of stuff ending with Welcome to polypaudio!04:50
crimsundex1: I gave you precise syntax.04:50
Jamminpotatorandabis, http://www.pastebin.com/26549404:50
dex1ok04:50
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crimsunDanC_ub: the future lies with polypaudio, but for stability and portability reasons, Hoary will release with esound.04:51
crimsunDanC_ub: the package is 'esound'.04:51
randabisDanC_ub: esound04:51
^thehatsrule^isnt that installed by default?04:51
Krys_Can anyone help me do a file sharing? So the mp3's that are on my desktop *running ubuntu* can be read by my laptop *running windows*?04:51
crimsun^thehatsrule^: on new installs of Hoary, yes, and from strict dist-upgrades from Warty, yes.04:51
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dazed|crimsun: im reading that page u sent me bout restricted formats and i cant get mallirat to work is it a Hoary only thing?04:51
^thehatsrule^ah04:51
crimsun^thehatsrule^: however, there was a window (a couple months ago) when dist-upgrading from Warty would have given one polypaudio04:52
DanC_ubesd: Esound sound daemon unable to create unix domain socket:04:52
DanC_ub/tmp/.esd/socket04:52
crimsundazed|: for 'acroread' only04:52
randabisJamminpotato: is your windows install the first partition on your hard drive?04:52
geppyDanC_ub: That means you're already running ESD.  'pgrep esd'04:52
DanC_ubpgrep esd gives no output04:52
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geppyODd.04:52
dazed|whats reall acroread?04:53
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Jamminpotatorandabis, yes first partion = winXP second part = ubuntu thrid = ubuntu swap 4th = fat32 partion for genreal use04:53
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DanC_ub$ sudo rm -rf /tmp/.esd04:53
DanC_ubthere. :)04:53
Jamminpotatorandabis, i may have to recover console it =/ i need it for a lan tommorow and dont have time for a reinstall04:54
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DanC_ubok, I got the familiar esd beeps...04:54
DanC_ubnow... how do I get timidity talking to esd? esddsp timidity?04:54
Jamminpotatorandabis, if i recovery console can i somehow fix the boot thing to dual boot properly?04:54
randabisJamminpotato: you could do the recovery console method, but that still may not fix it04:54
dazed|crimsun: what do u mean acroread only....what is that?04:54
geppyDanC_ub: Yeah.04:54
dex1dazed: acroread is adobe acrobat reader program (allows you to read pdf files)04:55
randabisJamminpotato: yes, but you'll need a livecd of some sort04:55
Jamminpotatorandabis, if recovery consoel doesnt fix it im so screwed04:55
camargorandabis, maybe Jamminpotato installed grub on hda1 instead of on MBR04:55
Jamminpotatocamargo, im pretty sure its installed on MBR04:55
dex1So would Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 be better than VMWare 4.5 for running Ubuntu on this sytstem? (VMWare is what I'm using)04:55
DanC_ubhmm... I can play .midi files with timidity _without_ using esddsp04:56
dex1it's on win xp04:56
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randabiscamargo: I doubt that...hda1 would be ntfs04:56
camargoJamminpotato, try to use the fixboot command from the winxp recovr console so04:56
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DanC_ubugh... using timidity with esddsp sounds horrible04:56
black_nightmareany of you know if asking to support more partition formats adds more bulk to a kernel or not so?04:56
brainZzZsounds good04:56
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black_nightmarelikewise supporting one type of partition compared to supporting three?04:56
camargorandabis, no problem... it still can overide the ntldr...04:56
Jamminpotatoarrrgh, i have to go find my xp cd04:56
CarlKdaily install is stuck - "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! ... nvidia-kernel-common" - here is a pic of the error: http://dev.personnelware.com/carl/temp/Mar31/1112314349/p1010004.jpg04:57
crimsunDanC_ub: it'd be best to use alsa directly04:57
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DanC_ubargh! I thought we just established that esd/polypaudio was the way to go. Why is it best to use alsa directly?04:57
Flonneblack_nightmare, everything you add will make the kernel bigger.04:57
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geppyDanC_ub: Quality.04:57
FlonneHowever, drivers tend to be pretty small.04:57
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geppyDoes ESD work with aoss?04:58
crimsunesd has a native alsa backend04:58
tomcatHey all, just wanted to give a BIG THANKS to everyone who helped me with my few questions last week. I've just got the speakers hooked up on my new ubuntu box, and the 1st gen soundblaster live that I had thought was a DEAD CARD works wonderfully! And I love Synaptic!04:58
membreyathe linux-restricted-modules that's in the repo's today..does that have nvidia 7129 drivers in it?04:58
crimsunthere's no need to use aoss with esd04:58
crimsunmembreya: yes.04:58
DanC_ubyeah, I can hear the difference in quality, geppy. I'd like to understand *why*04:58
camargobtw, what is polyaudio? :)04:58
membreyaFFS!04:58
HrdwrBoBpolypaudio04:58
HrdwrBoBesd replacement04:58
crimsuncamargo: a drop-in replacement for esound04:58
black_nightmareflonne...hm well I'll probably just comment out to the basic filesystems likewise I wouldn't bother including bfs/efs/etc since these aren't common04:58
dazed|crimsun: what do u mean acroread only....what is that?04:58
black_nightmareright?04:58
membreyai don't WANT 7129 i want to keep with 662904:58
randabisJamminpotato: it's possible that your windows install is corrupted or something, but more than likely using the recovery console will fix your boot problems...then if you want ubuntu back, you'll need to reinstall grub using a livecd04:58
geppycrimsun: Can ESD utilize something like dmix properly?04:59
membreya7129 causes my PC to lock04:59
crimsundazed|: dex1 answered that above04:59
Jamminpotatocamargo, randabis i will be back hoepgully soon04:59
HrdwrBoBgeppy: dmix is lower level than esd04:59
crimsungeppy: yes and no.04:59
Jamminpotatorandabis, it should jsut be the boot04:59
HrdwrBoBgeppy: if you are using dmix don't use esd04:59
camargocrimsun, my reps dont have it.04:59
DanC_ubesd has alsa support? I don't see it in th man page...04:59
Jamminpotatorandabis, cause i didnt touch theXP partition04:59
Flonneblack_nightmare, if you think you will use it, build it in; if you think you might use it, make it a module.04:59
HrdwrBoBDanC_ub: esd uses the OSS emulation for alsa support04:59
black_nightmareflonne I don't think I'll even use it04:59
FlonneModules don't use memory (aside from diskspace) unless loaded.04:59
FlonneThey're less efficient, but probably the way to go.04:59
crimsunDanC_ub: libesd-alsa0 - Enlightened Sound Daemon (ALSA) - Shared libraries04:59
geppyHrdwrBoB: I'm not using either, but DonC is wanting to use timidity with ALSA, and he's probably wanting to have sound from ESD applications, as well.05:00
black_nightmarethink I only really need mac/win and disc file systems supported for myself05:00
black_nightmarebut if I'm wrong...I'll just recompile then :p05:00
dazed|crimsun: ohhh then whyd u say that to me when i said that mallirat doesnt work on my warty?05:00
HrdwrBoBgeppy: it's all a terrible disaster tbh05:00
DanC_ub$ ldd /usr/bin/esd|grep alsa05:00
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DanC_ubshows nothing05:00
HrdwrBoBthe easiest thing to do is to buy an emu1k105:00
HrdwrBoB10k105:00
DanC_ubdoes it use dlopen() to get libesd-alsa0?05:00
crimsundazed|: if you read carefully, my very first answer used the qualifying phrase regarding Hoary05:01
geppyHrdwrBoB: I agree. We just need to wait for everyone to start using JACK. ;)05:01
black_nightmareflonne do you know about 'network file systems' ?  I'm wondering if I even need any of these when I'm not considering any kind of networking [just one computer alone and an external dialup modem] 05:01
Servo888How is the kernel information detected? (such as the following... "2.6.11.2-em8300 preempt PENTIUMII gcc-3.4") - Is this set when running make menuconfig, and make?05:01
crimsunServo888: it is saved when the build begins05:01
Flonneblack_nightmare, no, if you're trying to slim your kernel down as much as possible, you probably won't need that stuff.05:01
dazed|crimsun: lol im sooo lost :( oh well05:01
camargoHrdwrBoB, true.. :)05:02
black_nightmareok let me delete these......one second :p05:02
neighborleeanyone know why some apps show up in menu after synaptic and others dont ?05:02
Servo888crimsun, by change; if you make on gcc-3.4, then copy the source tree over to another machine which is running gcc-3.3. And on that machine you run make (with out running make clean), will the kernel still be detected as gcc-3.4?05:02
Servo888chance*05:03
camargoneighborlee, probably the other apps dont have a .desktop file05:03
^thehatsrule^neighborlee, depends on the pacakge...05:03
neighborleeyeah05:03
DanC_ubhmm... I got the whole jack/qsynth/realtime working on a vanilla debian box a few months ago. Maybe I'll go back to that. But I expect it won't play nicely with desktop beeps and such... or will it?05:03
turfhi!; where could i get flash player for ppc arch.?05:03
HrdwrBoBDanC_ub: it all uses gstreamer05:03
HrdwrBoBDanC_ub: you can change the default gstreamer sink05:03
HrdwrBoBwith gstreamer plugins :)05:03
DanC_uband gstreamer and jack-it get along OK?05:04
^thehatsrule^isnt the flash player the same?05:04
HrdwrBoBgstreamer is good - it's the future05:04
geppyDanC_ub: No =(05:04
geppyDanC_ub: Well, sometimes.05:04
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black_nightmareflonne -- whats with all the different 'fat' types?? (including vfat too)05:04
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black_nightmareor....should I rather ask someone instead05:04
Flonneblack_nightmare, Windows support. fat: fat16; vfat: fat32.05:04
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camargoHrdwrBoB, it is, but if irrc gstreamer still has some problems with realtime apps...05:04
Arniablack_nightmare: Each FAT type corresponds to a different sized file allocation table05:05
Xeon3Dhow does one install nvidia drivers for hoary?05:05
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geppyDanC_ub: If you install the ALSA JACK plugin, you can use it with Gstreamer with pretty nice results, that's what I do.05:05
ArniaFAT12 was 12 bit, FAT16 was 16bit and FAT32 was 32bit05:05
black_nightmarefat12...when did they even use that?05:05
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HrdwrBoBcamargo: probably, I don't do any realtime stuff05:05
FlonneFAT12 was almost never seen.05:05
black_nightmareduh thought so05:05
Flonne'Cept floppies...05:05
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black_nightmarefat16 --- 0kb to 500MB ... fat32 for higher05:05
DanC_uband realtime, right geppy?05:05
HrdwrBoBblack_nightmare: it's used on some usb devices05:05
FlonneIgnore me.05:05
black_nightmaream I right?05:06
DanC_ubjackd doesn't seem to be very happy without realtime05:06
black_nightmarehrdwr...well if I'm doing a 68k mac kernel... usb is 100% useless lol05:06
geppyDanC_ub: Right.05:06
black_nightmareguess I'll remove fat12 from this config file then05:06
FlonneFat16 was 0-2GB, but it sucked.05:06
DanC_ubI think I'm gonna go watch ER. I shall have to ponder all these things.05:06
geppyDanC_ub: Realtime-lsm is very easy to install, though.  If you use 'module-assistant', it has an ncurses interface to help you with it.05:06
FlonneNo, leave it in.05:06
geppyDanC_ub: Alright, enjoy!05:06
FlonneI think it was used for floppies.05:06
DanC_ubok, thanks for the clues.05:06
Xeon3Dcan anyone direct me to a howto \ tutorial on how to install the nvidia drivers for ubuntu?05:07
FlonneI don't remember, but it's probably safer to retain that one.05:07
crimsunXeon3D: they're already installed.05:07
black_nightmarehm ok..I'll leave all 'fat' in then05:07
crimsunXeon3D: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto05:07
FlonneNTFS is something you can probably do without.05:07
black_nightmareflonne..that was already commented out..I deleted it anyhow ;)05:07
black_nightmare'hpfs' <any idea?05:07
^thehatsrule^what about winFS? :P05:07
^thehatsrule^hpfs is ntfs no?05:08
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FlonneYou can drop that, black_nightmare.05:08
ice_1963apt-get install nvidia-glx05:08
ArniawinFS is just a layer on NTFS isn't it?05:08
FlonneWinFS is a joke. ^^05:08
black_nightmareah ok05:08
ArniaFlonne: Why is it a joke?05:08
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camargowinfs is the future :)05:08
^thehatsrule^dunno, its supposedly the new windows format... for longhorn05:08
black_nightmareso anything with 'fs' is windows or no?05:08
^thehatsrule^lol no!05:08
black_nightmareneverminding HFS on mac05:08
^thehatsrule^theres jfs... xfs i think05:08
FlonneArnia, it's more like an SQL-based varant of NTFS.05:08
black_nightmarelol thehat..ok ok05:08
camargowinfs = windows + sql server05:08
^thehatsrule^:P05:08
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Flonnejfs and xfs aren't things you're (personally) likely to use.05:09
ArniaFlonne: It also reinvents RDF poorly and misses the point in many ways... which irks me a bit :)05:09
FlonneThey have applications, but you probably won't need them.05:09
^thehatsrule^heh, yea... i still use ext2/3...05:09
Xeon3Dand hpfs was the precussor of NTFS.. used mostly on OS/205:09
FlonneArnia, what05:09
FlonneArnia, that's why I said it's a joke.05:09
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^thehatsrule^then why does it list it as ntfs/hpfs usually?05:09
black_nightmareaffs...hfs...hfsplus.....befs...bfs....efs....cramfs....hpfs....sysv.....ufs05:09
^thehatsrule^haha05:09
brainZzZi don't know why they even list it as 7905:10
Xeon3Dbecause there a little similar...05:10
Flonne^thehatsrule^, because they're very similar.05:10
black_nightmareI'm thinking I only have to retain hfs, hfsplus, and ufs05:10
black_nightmaream I wrong?05:10
ArniaFlonne: The idea of a flexible relational system isn't a joke... their implementation is ;)05:10
Xeon3DHPFS = NTFS from NT4.05:10
^thehatsrule^ah k05:10
^thehatsrule^ohhh05:10
Xeon3DNTFS from Win2000 \ XP is different.05:10
^thehatsrule^mmk05:10
Flonneblack_nightmare, keep ext2 and the fats just in case.05:10
Xeon3Dsorry for my english, but i'm not a naive speaker.05:10
Xeon3D*native05:10
black_nightmareflonne..these aren't in the line list I said lol05:10
camargoblack_nightmare, vfat shoud do the job..05:11
^thehatsrule^i always keep a fat16 or fat32 partition...05:11
Flonnecamargo, have you ever seen a fat32 floppy?05:11
black_nightmareso I guess I should delete all but 3 that I mentioned in my line  list above then?05:11
camargoFlonne, nopes05:11
PacoBCNweird, I have to restart dbus-1 in order to make appear all my drives in gnome...05:11
camargoFlonne, i though he is configuring a new kernel... neverming05:12
camargoops, nevermind05:12
ArniaPacoBCN: Gnome-Volume-Manager uses HAL which uses DBUS05:12
Flonnecamargo, he's building a kernel for a Mac.05:12
PacoBCNArnia, sorry?05:12
black_nightmarea 68k mac to be exact :p05:12
ArniaPacoBCN: The reason why restarting DBUS caused that effect05:13
ArniaPacoBCN: The volume manager works using HAL across DBUS05:13
PacoBCNArnia, and what's the reason why it doesn't show at the beginning?05:13
ArniaPacoBCN: Is HAL being loaded after DBUS?05:13
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black_nightmarewhats 'pseudo filesystems' anyhow?05:14
ArniaMisunderstood what you were saying before. Sorry05:14
PacoBCNArnia, I don't have a clue05:14
black_nightmareoh and if I delete a line from 'partition types' that would just mean it can't set up a partition in that particular filetype anymore....right?05:14
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PacoBCNI just wanted my drives to be shown in gnome when I boot05:15
dex1Pfft. I rebooted having installed the linux-headers, ready to re-run the vmware tools installer and now when it starts it loads to the gnome login screen. It ignores ctrl-alt-f1. and ctrl-alt-backspace takes me to a login prompt for a moment but then it exists back to the greeter login (it's chosen a different one now). aah!05:15
dex1how can i exit?05:15
^thehatsrule^change the runlevel to 2?05:15
black_nightmareanyone? :-)05:15
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^thehatsrule^i dont get what youre saying black_nightmare :/05:16
black_nightmaresorry...I think I better go to bed and ask again tomorrow05:16
black_nightmarea bit tired now here05:16
Flonneblack_nightmare, it means it can't handle it at all.05:16
sal002woah...upgraded to waory and GDN is wavy05:16
black_nightmarethanks for the bit of help at start anyhow05:16
black_nightmareflonne..ok ty...there's many that I wouldn't even need.. especially amiga partitions?? rofl05:17
black_nightmarebye now :p05:17
robertjdex1: kill it 6 times in a minute and it won't restart05:17
^thehatsrule^holy crap... you must have a lot of partitions...05:17
Flonne^thehatsrule^, the Linux kernel supports a lot of stuff.05:17
^thehatsrule^hehe :P05:18
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saik0yay for macrokernels? =\05:18
FlonneMonolithic kernel design is love.05:18
^thehatsrule^monolith.... nice game engine ;p05:19
sal002How do you configure Xorg fromt eh command line? Xorg -configure says "Missing output drivers.  Configuration failed"05:19
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saik0hey, building gimp 2.2.4 from source requires GTK+ 2.2.4. Is this avialaible from the repoos or am I gonna have to buld that from source or maybe find a deb?05:19
^thehatsrule^gtk has binaries i believe05:20
sal002Is the vesa driver broken in Xorg?05:20
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saik0sal002, u mean edit the xorg.conf?05:20
sal002Yes...generate it again...since it is clearly broken05:21
camargosaik0, gtk-dev 2.6.4 is on the repoos05:21
sal002apt-get configure xorg-server?05:22
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saik0camargo, danke was looking for the wrong package05:22
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sal002Is there a way to reconfigure a previously installed package?05:24
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Flonnedpkg-reconfigure, sal002.05:24
kpetersonOn hoary, when I download things and "save to disk" using firefox, they do not show up until I restart gnome.  Has anyone else experienced this problem?05:24
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Homiehey can someone help me with setting up my sound card05:25
Homieit didnt detect it05:25
FlonneWhat type of card, Homie?05:25
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sal002Thanks!05:25
Homiesound blaster05:25
Homieor a cmi 833005:25
Homiethere is 205:25
Homielol05:25
Homieone is built in05:25
Homieand i have another one added05:25
saik0looks like alsa is outputting to the onboard sound by default05:26
FlonneDo you get any results when you run `cat /proc/asound/cards`?05:26
Homiehavent done anything05:26
Homiei jsut got linux like a few days ago05:26
Homiejsut learning how to do shit05:26
FlonneAh.05:26
FlonneAs saik0 suggested, try changing the card to which your speakers are connected.05:27
Homiehey05:27
FlonneIf that works, you can fix it easily.05:27
Homiethere is something in my device manager05:27
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Homiebut how do i enable it05:27
Homie?05:27
Dreamer3_ok, hoary is officially cool05:28
Dreamer3_and i'm officially hungry05:28
saik0hungry hungry hedgehogs?05:28
jsgotangcohhehe05:28
ArniaDo you have form HTR3-7 to verify your state of hunger?05:28
Dreamer3_Arnia: no, can you fax it to me? *laughs*05:29
DocUblol05:29
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jsgotangcolol05:29
^thehatsrule^lol05:29
Dreamer3_man, i don't know were else to look for cool stuff in hoary though05:29
Jamminpotatorandabis, fixdisk didnt work05:29
DocUbSynaptic05:29
Homieflonne: it says ensoniq audio pci05:29
jsgotangcojust look at synaptic05:29
Jamminpotatoneither did a repair install05:29
DocUbapt-get05:29
Homiewhen i do that command05:29
ArniaIf not, please fill out form HTR3-1 in triplicate and signed by a high-court barrister05:29
jsgotangcoyoull see the stuff that might interest you05:29
jsgotangcoor just apt-cache search blah05:30
PacoBCNGuys, one question. I found the script to link xine through moxplugger to firefox (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17727&page=3&pp=10) but when I try to run it I find an error in first line (syntax error near unexpected token `[,] '). Can you hel me?05:30
DocUbyea05:30
FlonneOkay, Homie, so what if you plug your speakers into the other card?05:30
Homieshit i gotta go05:30
Homienothing05:30
Homiei get nothing05:30
ArniaSend it to the Home Office and they'll send your HTR3-6 which can be exchanged for HTR3-7 at the post office on Tuesdays when its raining05:30
Dreamer3_crimsun: you busy?05:30
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jsgotangcoi find useless stuff in the repos but are fun nonetheless05:30
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johtrsamp\hay how come ubuntu doesn't have things such as sshd by default?05:30
Homiebut what do i have to install ?05:31
FlonneHomie, how are you testing them?05:31
Dreamer3_johtrsamp\: because it's a "Secure by default" install... just apt-get install sshd05:31
jsgotangcohi Flonne05:31
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ArniaDreamer3_: do you use lots of GTk1 apps?05:31
Flonnejohtrsamp\, a lot of people have no idea what SSH is. :(05:31
Jamminpotatoi tried to boot winXP after installing ubuntu yester aday and ubuntu works fine...but when i try to run xp through grub it says NTLDR missing05:31
johtrsamp\Dreamer3_, it says there is no sshd, is that because I have a bad mirror?05:31
FlonneHi, jsgotangco.05:31
Homiewhen i open volume control05:31
Homieit says05:31
Jamminpotatoand i tryed running repair console with the command fixdisk05:31
Dreamer3_Arnia: nah, but thinking of putting together a nice custom DSL cd, and i'd want it to look good :)05:31
Jamminpotatoit didnt work05:31
Jamminpotatothen i did a reapir install it didnt work05:31
Dreamer3_johtrsamp\: apt-cache search ssh05:32
jsgotangcoyour xp is borked05:32
Homieno mixer elements or devices found05:32
ArniaDreamer3_: Ah05:32
Jamminpotatojsgotangco, any way to fix it05:32
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^thehatsrule^XP recovery console!05:32
sal002woah...opening terminal in hoary crashed my system05:32
johtrsamp\ic Flonne ,  so I suppose ubuntu is aimed at the less linux expearenced crowd05:32
drbombay43yellow all , just installed hoary cant get sound audigy2? please help05:32
Homieflonne: what will i have to do to get that to work ?05:32
Jamminpotato^thehatsrule^, what exaactly should id do in xp recovery console05:32
crimsunDreamer3_: what's up?05:32
Dreamer3_Arnia: i've been playing around with DSLinux in my spare time and have falled in love with the idea of a silent (no moving parts computer) running from Flash, but that limits you spacewise a lot05:32
FlonneHomie, you'll probably have to change the order in which your cards are loaded.05:32
Homieyeah but it only loaded one card05:33
^thehatsrule^well... guess youd have to resort to format...05:33
^thehatsrule^then install hoary05:33
^thehatsrule^:)05:33
Homieit only detected one05:33
Arniajohtrsamp\: Its aimed at anyone who wants a system that Just Works ;)05:33
Homiethat onboard one wasnt detected05:33
Homiecause it doesnt detect in widows wiether05:33
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Jamminpotato^thehatsrule^, well i already have hoary on here i just also want xp to work05:33
Homiei had to manulay install it05:33
ArniaDreamer3_: I guess it would... you do have a few gig to play with though05:33
^thehatsrule^lol dang05:33
johtrsamp\yes Arnia :)05:33
Jamminpotato^thehatsrule^, i tried running fixdisk from recovery ocnsole but it didnt work05:33
jsgotangcoUbuntu has everything it needs to run out of the box no more no less thats its aim thats why it fits only on 1 CD05:33
^thehatsrule^Jamminpotato, what is the error?05:33
Dreamer3_Arnia: few gig? you must be talking more flash than I am :)05:33
FlonneHomie, what card did you add to your system?05:33
^thehatsrule^when you try to boot that is05:33
saik0Homie, if you never use the onboard sound you might try just diabling it in your BIOS05:34
Jamminpotato^thehatsrule^, "NTLDR missing"05:34
Dreamer3_Arnia: the original ISO is 50mb... i was thinking a 512mb or 1g flash05:34
johtrsamp\Dreamer3_, does the package ssh have sshd in it too?05:34
Homieok05:34
^thehatsrule^Jamminpotato, hm ive seen that before.... seomtime...05:34
Homiewell i have to go05:34
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saik0Homie, that fixed my alsa problems when I was running 2.405:34
Homieill be bck on tomorrow05:34
Dreamer3_johtrsamp\: that's why i said apt-cache show ssh, it should tell you05:34
light_punch2does ubuntu have kernel 2.4.x as option?05:34
Arniajohtrsamp\: open-ssh?05:34
Jamminpotato^thehatsrule^, and i ahve a lan party tommorow and i dont have time for a clean install so i have to get it cooking soon05:34
geneo93Homie:  thats because it diabled in bios05:34
^thehatsrule^clean install only takes 1/2 hour ;p05:35
Dreamer3_Arnia: it's sold on as little at 64mb flash... 54 mb iso parition, 10mb data... :)05:35
ArniaHmm...05:35
Dreamer3_Arnia: but i think i'd want to add a lot of stuff... make a real cd with all my fav apps to use anywhere, anytime05:35
johtrsamp\ic Dreamer3_ , it does :)05:35
ArniaDreamer3_: What device is this?05:35
Dreamer3_Arnia: Damn SMall LInux, running on a mini-itx board with flash to IDE converter05:36
JamminpotatoANYONE KNOW HOW TO FIX THE "NTLDR missing" ERROR WHEN I BOOT XP?, ith nk it has something to do with the ubuntu install i did yester day, and i try and boot xp through grub and it gives me sid error05:36
Dreamer3_Arnia: i'm really tired of my noisy even my laptop is05:36
HKSDUlight-punch2: does ubuntu install 2.6 as default?05:36
Jamminpotato^thehatsrule^, its hl2 nad ut2004 that take a while to isntall05:36
robertjHKSDU: sure does05:36
brainZzZthe hdd on my laptop is dead...05:36
BukkakeSo is my dog05:36
HKSDUrobertj: thanks05:36
johtrsamp\when trying to apt-get install ssh I get this05:36
johtrsamp\Errors were encountered while processing:05:37
johtrsamp\ /var/cache/apt/archives/ssh_1%3a3.8.1p1-8.sarge.4_i386.deb05:37
johtrsamp\E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:37
randabisJamminpotato: /fixmbr05:37
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^thehatsrule^Jamminpotato, those works in ubuntu too :P well, nothing on google?05:37
FlonneJamminpotato, consult Micorosft's support stuff. It isn't an uncommon error, even on systems that only have NT5 installed.05:37
ArniaDreamer3_: Aha... I'm thinking about building custom information systems hardware for field agents of businesses to integrate with the server and desktop software we're designing. Would this be suitable?05:37
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FlonneNT breaks very, very easily.05:37
JamminpotatoFlonne, ^thehatsrule^  and randabis thank you05:37
i0n_st0rmhmm.. i know i saw a link to this is one of the forums but i can't seem to find it again. does anyone happen to know the fix for more than one sound playing at once?05:37
kakaltois there a guide to getting scanning working under ubuntu?05:37
ice_1963good night05:37
ArniaDreamer3_: Although I guess writing symbian stuff for mobiles might be better05:37
randabisJamminpotato: if that doesn't work, you broke your windows05:37
Jamminpotatorandabis...is fixmbr run from the recovery ocnsole?05:37
randabisyes05:37
dex1Anyone have experience of Ubuntu under Vmware or other 'virtual' software under a Win32 system and fancy relaying their experiences?05:38
^thehatsrule^http://www.buildorbuy.org/win2000ntldr.html05:38
Flonnerandabis, won't fixmbr overwrite GRUB?05:38
^thehatsrule^Jamminpotato http://www.buildorbuy.org/win2000ntldr.html05:38
randabisFlonne: yes05:38
Dreamer3_Arnia: um yeah... mini-itx is just mainboard, processor, video, etc... on tiny board... good for small, silent, embedded systems... you still need keyboard, mouse, etc...05:38
JamminpotatoFlonne, i jwill deal with grub later, ireally need xp up tommorow05:38
kakaltoanyone?05:38
Dreamer3_Arnia: but if i had a large company and most people did data entry or something i think i'd put silent PCs on everyone's desk :)05:38
brainZzZbut you still need to add that acct to acl's if you want your iis server to be secure.05:38
^thehatsrule^Jamminpotato, it just seems like youre missing boot info... or it has been moved/deleted/corrupted05:38
ArniaDreamer3_: Worth bearing in mind if a client needs that though...VNCing through to a server that does the meaty stuff05:39
Dreamer3_Arnia: about the same cost as a NICE XP system, but no noise at all05:39
Dreamer3_Arnia: i'm just telling you you're talking real computers, not hand helds :)05:39
mercurusDreamer3_: I have two silent machines05:39
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Dreamer3_mercurus: mini-itx?05:39
mercurusno, wafer05:39
Dreamer3_mercurus: wafer?05:40
mercurusWizards they're called05:40
Dreamer3_mercurus: PCs?05:40
mercurus233s, with 32 MB RAM05:40
Dreamer3_mercurus: x86?05:40
mercurusCyrix based x8605:40
Dreamer3_mercurus: what do you run on them?05:40
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mercurusI ran one for about a year as a router with debian woody05:40
FlonneCyrix chips are nice.05:40
mercurusbest uptime I got was about 4 months05:40
Dreamer3_mercurus: you have hard drives in them though?05:40
Jamminpotatoif i fixmbr and it doesnt acutally fix windows, i wont have nay working os installed05:40
mercurusDreamer3: yeah, laptop HDDs, 5 gigish05:40
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Dreamer3_mercurus: see i'm talking all run from flash :)05:41
mercurusbut I have put a 40 gig laptop drive in one (which I need to setup)05:41
martinhjJamminpotato, correct05:41
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johtrsamp\I can not get this ssh working :(05:41
Dreamer3_mercurus: once you add a HD you add moving parts, noise... and it becomes really EASY to do anything05:41
Jamminpotatomartinhj, well i ahve hoary live cd05:41
FlonneJamminpotato, download and burn a LiveCD.05:41
mercurusDreamer3_: it has 2 USB controllers, so I could plug a thumbdrive in and run from flash :)05:41
dex1HOW can I get the machine out of the Gnome greeter gui thing? When I ctrl-alt-backspace it goes to text mode for about 3 seonds then back to the logon screen. it ignores ctrl-alt-f1. I need to be in full text mode05:41
martinhjJamminpotato, it's solveable :-)05:41
mercurusdex1, open a terminal, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:42
rdw200169i have hoary 5.04 on amd 64... tried upgrading to kernel 2.6.11 by installing the kernel image... but it won't load gdm05:42
mercurusthen Ctrl-Alt-F105:42
JamminpotatoFlonne, already have hoary live :)05:42
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mercurusrdw200169, do you have nvidia or ATI binary drivers ?05:42
Dreamer3_mercurus: i'm just thinking for normal client (e-mail, surfing, web design) use a silent PC could be really cool05:42
FlonneJamminpotato, just making sure you have something to fallback on. ^^05:42
rdw200169mercurus: nvidia05:42
saik0rdw200169, are you using proprietary drivers as a kernel module?05:42
johtrsamp\do different apt mirrors have different files on them?05:42
JamminpotatoFlonne, thanks05:42
rdw200169mercurus: for the video card?05:42
dex1merc: is that something I need to reverse after I've done what I need to do from the login prompt?05:42
ArniaDreamer3_: webdesign with that little space? Err...05:43
saik0rdw200169, ah, you'll need to build the kernel module for your new kernel05:43
kakaltohas anyone got their scanner working under linux?05:43
mercurusrdw200169, ok, you need to either change your X config to use the nv driver, not the nvidia0 driver ... or just re-install drivers, and change the config back05:43
Dreamer3_Arnia: sure :) firefox, a slim gtk editor ftp, scp, rsync :)05:43
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Br34chScanner . . . as in, paper scanning and such on? Or IP scanning?05:43
Dreamer3_Arnia: what more do i need :)05:43
Br34chu h4x0r..05:43
mercurusdex1, that'll stop GNOME, so you just need to restart it with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart05:43
saik0rdw200169, you can download the installer from nvidia's site05:43
mercuruswhat do you need to do from a tty that you can't do from a pty ?05:44
rdw200169mercurus, saik0: i have to install the drivers while booted in the 2.6.11 kernel, right05:44
mercurusrdw200169, yep05:44
dex1mercurus: installing vmware tools05:44
geppyEgads!05:44
saik0rdw200169, you'll need to grab the kernel headers to do so05:45
geppy=(05:45
rdw200169mercurus, saik0: i guess that goes the same for my wireless drivers...?05:45
ArniaDreamer3_: Different idea of design to me then05:45
mercuruslol @ april fools day lilo msg05:45
geppyOH!05:45
geppyDamnit.05:45
Dreamer3_Arnia: *laughs* what's your idea? :)05:45
mercurusdex1, fair enough05:45
geppyIt's not April Fools' day here, yet.05:45
kakaltoapril fools is over.05:45
mercurusrdw200169, maybe ... how did you get them ?05:45
rdw200169mercurus, saik0: i got them from some monkeys...05:46
turfwhere could i get flash player for ppc arch.?05:46
mercuruskakalto, where are you ... it is midday April 1 here ...05:46
ArniaDreamer3_: I'd need Gimp, Inkscape etc05:46
Lizif the servers are going down, will it affect us in here?05:46
kakaltoit's past 12:00 here, so april fools is over05:46
kakaltoanyone who does jokes now is the fool05:46
Dreamer3_Arnia: ah, gimp isn't THAT huge... i'm thinking i might get up to 100mb or so... :)05:46
mercurusDreamer3_: I really need some time to get my wizards going again, they were really great ... because they were silent.05:46
kakalto15:4605:46
Dreamer3_Arnia: i think the one they sell is the store comes with 256mb flash05:46
kakalto1st April05:46
mercurusthey are smaller than a Liteon Optical drive unit05:47
saik0always wondered why the GIMP came packaged with ubuntu base?05:47
Dreamer3_mercurus: link?05:47
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mercurusDreamer3_: not sure, they're pretty rare ... hang on05:47
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geppyAgh, that's a sick, sick joke.05:48
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Dreamer3_Arnia: my bad, 512mb flash, 256 memory, i'd prolly reverse it05:48
rdw200169mercurus, saik0: so, all i need is nvidia drivers and kernel headers right?05:48
kakaltohas anyone here got the hp psc 2410 photosmart all-in-one printer/scanner/copier to scan something under warty?05:49
saik0rdw200169, not sure about the wireless. thats all you'll need to get X running though05:49
rdw200169mercurus, saik0: thanks05:49
Dreamer3_ok, brb05:49
Lizbye all05:50
kakalto?05:50
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helio7did everyone else get that lilo message from the irc server?05:52
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fabbionehelio7: yeah..05:52
helio7I guess the irc server is Windows and under attack or something is that right?05:52
fabbioneit's 1st of Apr05:52
fabbioneyou know?05:53
helio7oh no LOL i'm still in 31 of march here05:53
Jamminpotatorandabis, it didnt work.... any ideas Flonne05:53
rdw200169we work in GMT here...05:54
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mercurusDreamer3_: I can't find the sodding thing ... there are a few pages describing them05:55
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geneo93spammer05:55
Nariabi <3 ubuntu05:56
^thehatsrule^spammer? where!05:56
^thehatsrule^oh05:56
geneo93lilo05:56
brainZzZi knew a guy who made an anagram out of the soliloquy from hamlet05:56
Jamminpotato^thehatsrule^, how do i install grub form a live cd?05:56
^thehatsrule^Jamminpotato... did you check out my link?05:56
geneo93all them05:56
Jamminpotato^thehatsrule^, ilooked at it.... its somewhat confusing05:56
mercurusDreamer3_: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/wizard/ <-- mailing list with info05:57
^thehatsrule^oh... why? it seems liike what i did before05:57
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dex1STILL NOT WORKING. :( Vmware tools installer asked the directory of C header files that matched my running kernel.05:59
dex1As advised here I'd run the command "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" and was advised to then enter the path on request as: /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r). It complained it was not an existing directory. I'm currently logged in at the prompt via sudo -s -H if that makes any difference (possibly wasn't when I installed that pkge above). Suggestions??05:59
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crimsundex1: I believe you need to pass /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)/include06:00
dex1thanks, trying now06:00
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crimsundex1: vmware requires additional tomfoolery06:00
dex1Does it work better under M$oft Virtual PC? (which I don't have thus far)06:01
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crimsundex1: no idea.06:02
^thehatsrule^install kernel sources yet?06:03
dex1me? yes I sudo apt'get'd install linux-headers yeah06:04
dex1crimsun: that didn't work, still 'not an existing path or directory' :/06:04
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jakebGah, I'm trying to get Java going... I am using java-package to create a package... but Java programs/applets seem to be hanging06:04
dex1is it because I sudo -s -H  'd to swtich to root user but had installed that while under my own username with the sudo prefix?06:05
jakebfor example Azureus detects Java then hangs for a long time and then gives an error:   java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out06:05
Zepticonhi... Im new in linux and Ubuntu is my first distro. I have a LCD screen that supports 1280x1024 pixels, but i cant seem to adjust the screen size to anything bigger than 1024x768... What am i doing wrong?06:05
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_phate_Is the release candidate the same as the preview?06:05
robitaille_phate_,  no06:05
jakeb_phate_: no06:05
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martinhjwhat is the greatest differences?06:06
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synd`hey guys06:06
_phate_whats the diff?06:06
martinhjsaw the rc iso file was a little bigger06:06
synd`whats the DMA command to enable it?06:06
brainZzZwhich means that to see that information you need to enable it and reboot.06:06
synd`i mean the command to enable DMA in hoary06:06
^thehatsrule^Zepticon, change the xorg/xfree config?06:06
jakebwell for one, it will have updated packages, and maybe the installer is updated too, not sure06:06
Zepticonhow do i do that?06:06
^thehatsrule^synd`, parma something i belive06:07
robitaillemarcus|,   hopefully less bugs in the release candidate; they had quite a few days there to solve bugs06:07
synd`^thehatsrule^, yeah..06:07
_phate_synd`: it should be enabled by default if your sys supports it06:07
dex1any ideas anyone? :D06:07
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synd`_phate_, im in hoary.. i dont think it does.06:07
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^thehatsrule^Zepticon if you cant do it in the gnome preferences, you can edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 i think06:07
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_phate_synd`: when you boot up it should tell you if your sys has DMA06:08
synd`_phate_, CD is skipping. just upgraded today.. didnt do it in warty06:08
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alka_trashanyone seen gimpshop around these parts06:08
alka_trash?06:08
synd`_phate_, is there not a command to see if its enable w/o having to reboot?06:08
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icarussynd:  you can try hdparm /dev/hda at the prompt and see what it says.06:08
deFrysk sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda06:08
_phate_alka_trash: gimpshop is for mac only06:09
_phate_synd`: i dunno06:09
synd`icarus, deFrysk: thanks06:09
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synd`/dev/hda:06:10
synd` using_dma    =  1 (on)06:10
synd`ugh06:10
deFryskcool06:10
synd`if its not the DMA, then what is it? I have the same exact problem on my laptop which i upped to hoary today as well06:10
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pablo928Hi, can't remember the command to set-up the driver for Xorg. Can anyone help?06:11
alka_trashabout gimp shop from the website06:11
alka_trashUPDATE! codemills.com has graciously ported GIMPshop to Linux. RPMed. Heres the link to his post where you can find the file. Thanks, Anshuman!06:11
PacoBCNwhat problem are you talking about in laptops?06:11
sal002what gives you autogen.sh (which package)?06:11
alka_trashhttp://codemills.com/blog/?p=406:11
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synd`PacoBCN, when I play a CD.. it skips awkwardly06:12
dex1Not existing directory?? The VMware tools installer [on XP host]  asked the directory of C header files that matched my running kernel.  As advised I'd run the command "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" and as advised then entered the path on request: /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r). It complained it was not an existing directory. I *also* tried that path with /include on the end without success; still claims not an existing path. :/ I'm cur06:12
alka_trashthe site has exceeded the given bandwidth, but there was a RPM there and source06:12
PacoBCNsynd, I don't have this problem06:12
synd`PacoBCN, I have it on both of my hoary computers06:13
icarussynd: check man hdparm to tweak the cd drive.06:13
synd`icarus, how exactly do i do that06:13
synd`sudo man hdparm06:13
synd`?06:13
dex1would the /usr/ directory I'm referencing be the same once I changed to su (via sudo -s -H) ?06:13
dex1synd: with the keyboard from a terminal mode. type :)06:14
icarussynd, just man hdparm.  it's detailed and should help you.06:14
sal002Is there a meta package for gcc and all that fun stuff (including autogen.sh)?06:14
helio7by responding to lilo that doesn't broadcast to everyone on the server does it?06:14
synd`dex1, thanks, i know.06:14
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inva|idis there a way to become root in a terminal, so you don't have to type sudo in front of everything? (like su in mandrake)06:15
dex1inv: su -s -H06:15
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kpetersoninva|id sudo -s -H06:15
deFryskinva|id, sudo gnome-terminal06:15
dex1sal: sudo aptitude install build-essential06:16
dex1So does anyone know what the path to enter should be? :(06:16
inva|idty06:16
deFryskkpeterson, cool06:16
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sal002dex1: Does that include autogen.sh?06:17
dex1sal: dk06:18
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sal002perfect!  Thank you!06:18
sal002Heh - I like PearPC.net's April fools message06:18
inva|idanother question: say I want to change all files ending in .XXX to .xxx - how to do this? mv *.XXX ?06:18
dex1crimsun: Might "/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)/include" not be a valid path because I installed linux headers whilst logged in as the normal username prefixed with sudo BUT are running the vmtools installer from root by way of sudo -s -H ?06:18
_phate_is there a feature comparison somewhere between GNOME and KDE?06:19
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pablo928I need to set my video driver from terminal, can't start desktop. Can anyone help? I'm running an old SIS onboard video card .06:19
Br34chI'm gonna do that.. thing.. that thing the girl did in Milwaukee, kidnapper herself for April's fool last year. Yeah. I'm gonna do that.06:19
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sal002dex: Still don't have autogen.sh06:19
KamakazieI doubt anyone knows how to mount a psp in Ubuntu do they?06:19
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Kamakaziedidnt think so06:20
dex1sal: I've no idea. you could search at http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/. I'm new to this myself06:20
Kamakazieguess ill try it as sda06:20
crimsundex1: no, that's not generally the cause06:21
mindwarpanyone here running on amd6406:21
crimsundex1: would you paste onto pastebin.com the entire error message?06:21
mindwarpAfter updating to the newest packages for amd64 ia32-libs_0.5ubuntu3_amd64.deb does not install: "error creating symbolic link `./usr/lib32/libGL.so.1`: No such file or directory06:21
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infieWhere might I find information on 5.04?06:22
awb4422the wiki06:22
KamakazieAnyone know if its even possible to mount a Sony PSP in linux?06:22
calcinfie: comes out next wed06:22
icarusdex1, did you compile your own kernel?06:22
sartekhow do I mount a partition from a hdd I just connected (it's from another pc so it's already partitioned)06:23
infieis it likely to change from the release candidate06:23
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infieand for that matter, can the RC be updated to the release?06:23
synd`ugh anyone know what to tweak in hdparm for this damned cdrw drive06:23
infiewithout a reinstall06:23
mindwarpinfie: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryHedgehog06:23
calcinfie: you can install warty and upgrade to current06:23
kpetersonKamakazie I know there are people working on the inverse proccess06:23
dex1icarus: no06:23
konstantinoshello folks!06:23
Kamakazieyea,06:23
inva|idhow might I rename a bunch of files from .XXX to .xxx ?06:23
dex1ic: but I may have to06:23
calchell if you knew enough about debian you could probably install debian 0.9x and upgrade through to hoary ;)06:24
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ChaosZ3ROalsaconf was the only way I could get my sound to work before this release :S06:24
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calcthough the elf and libc6 transitions might be a bit of a pita06:24
icarusdex1, you could install kernel-package and build headers for your kernel.06:25
konstantinoswhile my USB modem is recognized (as seen in the "device manager"), the /dev/modem entry is apparently empty because whenever I try to connect using wvdial, I get the correspondent error message06:25
konstantinoswhat to do now?06:25
mikelds#ubuntu-es06:25
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ChaosZ3ROoh nevermind....some sound is working06:26
^thehatsrule^inva|id, use mv *.xxx *.XXX ?06:26
dex1crimsun, that IS the entire error message. Pretty much? It's in mid-install (of vmware tools). It suggests "/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-3-386/build/include" which isn't there so I override to tell it the "C header files that matched my running kernel" are at /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)/include06:26
dex1still moaned though and said not a valid directory.06:26
ChaosZ3ROahhhh beautiful, sound's working06:27
ChaosZ3ROwell, erm, that's all from me06:27
konstantinosthehatsrule - you got it backwards, that should be:    mv *.XXX *.xxx06:27
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Dreamer3_crimsun: oh... UseBios "false" doesn't work... it init the video and moving windows or anything results in snow... so it's not a permanent solution... any other ideas?06:27
synd`is /dev/hda my cdrom??06:27
inva|id^thehatsrule^,06:28
inva|id# mv *.MOB *.mob06:28
inva|idmv: when moving multiple files, last argument must be a directory06:28
inva|idTry `mv --help' for more information.06:28
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^thehatsrule^ah konstantinos, i read it wrong06:28
crimsunDreamer3_: nope, sorry.06:28
konstantinoshelp anyone with an empty /dev/modem entry? how do I fix this?06:28
Dreamer3_crimsun: :-/06:28
crimsundex1: use the recommended /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/include instead.  That's the preferred manner anyhow.06:28
crimsundex1: make sure you have it installed.  dpkg -l linux-headers-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii06:28
Nekohayohey people.. I'm looking for a name for an open source app... what do you prefer between Specto and Vigilo? ^^06:28
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dex1trying now.06:29
PacoBCNanyone ever made irda work?06:29
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FlonneWhat will it do, Nekohayo?06:29
linuxpoetIs there any package creation tools for Ubuntu?06:29
^thehatsrule^hm inva|id, im not sure if ubuntu has rename command... i usually use mv, but you could use cp *.a *.b then rm *.a06:29
NekohayoFlonne, notify you of what happened while you were gone :)06:29
linuxpoetI am considering packaging up some of our products for it06:29
icarussynd, probably /dev/hdc06:29
NekohayoSpecto and vigilo are latin words for "watch"06:29
^thehatsrule^or rather rm -f *.a06:29
^thehatsrule^;p06:29
synd`icarus,  thx again06:30
Flonnelinuxpoet, it uses dpkg, the same basic tools as Debian.06:30
dex1neko: specto makes me thing of reading glasses wearers and vigilo makes me think of either a vagina or all-night vigil.06:30
inva|id^thehatsrule^, ah I never thought about that, thanks06:30
FlonneYes, I've taken several years of Latin.06:30
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^thehatsrule^hehe np inva|id, if youre really lazy, and need it in the future, make an alias ;p06:30
inva|idhehe06:30
NekohayoXD06:30
turfany one here havesuccessfuly install flash player in a ppc architecture?06:31
synd`icarus, i do the sudo hdparm -d /dev/hdc06:31
FlonneThat said, what will it do?06:31
synd`icarus, and it comes up using_dma = 0 (off)06:31
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inva|id^thehatsrule^, actually, I get the same error with cp as I do with mv06:31
inva|id^thehatsrule^, rename exists, I suppose I'll read the man file06:31
synd`icarus, but the man hdparm said that if i do hdparm -d, that it toggles it on06:32
icarussynd, try sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc and see if it enables dma06:32
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Hmmmmhi, guys06:32
Hmmmmanyone tried the new beta release or hoary?06:32
^thehatsrule^that is odd inva|id.... always worked for me :S06:32
FlonneHi, Hmmmm.06:33
FlonneYes; many of us have.06:33
^thehatsrule^Hmmmm06:33
linuxpoetThis alone make it better than fedora06:33
linuxpoetUbuntu is released regularly and predictably; a new release is made every six                     months. You can use the current stable release or the current development                     release. Each release is supported for at least 18 months.06:33
HmmmmFlonne, will it be a good idea for me to try the beta?06:33
Hmmmmim geting my new box thsi weekend06:34
Hmmmmand i cnat wait for the final release06:34
brainZzZi will be b uying a new box very soon06:34
Hmmmmbtw when is hoary final to be released?06:34
FlonneHmmmm, there's no real reason not to; you can upgrade everything to the final version when it hits.06:34
HmmmmbrainZzZ, go for the amd6406:34
brainZzZ006:34
FlonneApril 8th.06:34
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paulproteusHmmmm: I suggest installing as early as today.06:34
jsgotangcoin a few days06:34
brainZzZi only go for the chicks, though06:34
Hmmmmpaulproteus, i like ur advice a LOT06:34
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kpetersonany one here have m4a support working on xmms?06:35
Emis there a Nekohayo around ?06:35
Hmmmmso i think i'll start my torrent for the amd64 hoary06:35
NekohayoFlonne, it will tell you things like "while you were gone: 3 mails were received, nekohayo messaged you, 2 comments were added to your blog, 7 packages were outdated.." etc06:35
FlonneNekohayo, that sounds like it will take a lot of work to complete.06:35
geneo93crimsun:  since yesterdays updates my cdrom aren't seen06:36
FlonneThat said, I think "Vigilo" sounds more appropriate.06:36
EmNekohayo, oh hi, somebody linked your mockup in another channel.  :x  i came to say you've quite miscredited the icons...06:36
NekohayoI did? what should I write?06:36
Hmmmmpaulproteus, is the 5.04 preview the last release before final?06:36
crimsungeneo93: dmesg information?06:36
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EmNekohayo, look at http://www.brisgeek.com/etiquette06:36
g14jeff this is jeff :)06:36
EmNekohayo, also http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=1985306:36
NekohayoXD06:36
synd`UGH06:36
Nekohayook, thank you Em (this is my first time..)06:37
brainZzZthis my first time in this channel in years, probably first time actually saying anything haha06:37
EmNekohayo, all it's fine, dear.  also, about your mockup, it looks a LOT like a gdesklet, and is a lot like something a gdesklet would exist to take care of.  like individual little gdesklets06:37
NekohayoEm, but it's meant to be independant.. I think.. like beagle for instance06:38
HmmmmFlonne, is the 5.04 preview the last release before final?06:38
NekohayoEm, so the author is Andrew Fitzsimon?06:38
EmNekohayo, **shrug**  that's fine, it's kinda what gdesklets exists to do, but otherwise this might be a bit harder to write (if it's standalone, ya know ?)06:38
EmNekohayo, as far as i know06:38
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saik0Hmmmm, yes, final will be out in 5 days06:38
FlonneHmmmm, no, there's a Release Candidate.06:38
NekohayoEm, besides, never got to make gdesklets work.. Xd06:39
Flonnesaik0, it was pushed back to the 8th because of Gnome.06:39
saik0Hmmmm, I guess I lied06:39
EmNekohayo, i know, it's a really immature project, i do wish they'd polish it up more, it's such a pain to make any of it work the way you want06:39
Hmmmmso the current preview release has the latest gnome?06:39
EmNekohayo, that said, this is what it exists for.  :x06:40
dex1crimsun: still says not a valid directory. when I use /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/include instead.   I first ran dpkg -l linux-headers-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii and it echoed it back to me (to say it'd found it)06:40
NekohayoEm, anyways, I'm thinking of writing down thoughts, better mockups (fixing that one) and all during the week end, and then maybe start publicizing to get some help out there or something.. but it needs to be foretought06:40
saik0Flonne, is the problemw ith gnome redering 2d windows only with CPU going to be fixed?06:40
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syndugh06:41
EmNekohayo, well good luck, you'll probably run into the "show us the code" attitude a lot though...  :x   if you really want it, keep at it i guess.06:41
syndhdparm isnt helping out my damn cd drive from skipping06:41
Hmmmmhow does ubuntu comapre to gentoo in terms of speed?06:41
Nekohayoyeah but I think we'll have to wait for this like you say..06:41
Flonnesaik0, I have no idea. I'm not a dev. ^^06:41
brainZzZNekohayo: now i have to wait for it to fill in06:41
Nekohayobut the only thing I can do for now is write text...06:41
crimsundex1: and with linux-source-foo?06:41
crimsundex1: (Hoary -> linux-source-2.6.10)06:42
inva|idThis is what I get with the rename function06:42
inva|id# rename MOB mob *.MOB06:42
inva|idBareword "MOB" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1.06:42
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EmNekohayo, well good luck.  maybe you could learn to do programming ?06:43
dex1<warty06:43
crimsundex1: linux-source-2.6.8.106:44
Nekohayohmm easy to say XD I can't write 3 lines of php without the phone pole exploding06:44
pablo928On a new install, I can only boot to terminal (no desktop). How can I configure my video driver from terminal?06:44
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dex1crimsun: sorry, where do I put that? :(06:45
crimsundex1: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.8.106:45
dex1*nod*06:45
dex1and then point the installer to which directory when asked about the C header files?  still /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/include ?06:46
icaruspablo928, edit the /etc/X11/XFree86 file06:46
andrewskipablo928: what kind of vid card do you have?06:46
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pablo928 icarus:I can do that fro terminal?06:46
andrewskipablo928: yes, you can.06:47
icaruspablo928, use nano or something of the like.06:47
PacoBCNartwork is already updated :)06:47
pablo928It's a SIS onboard06:47
Empoor Nekohayo.  good luck all the same.  learn python maybe.  buh bye.06:47
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Nekohayoheheh good night folks06:47
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pablo928It's a sis onboard and I have warty.06:48
andrewskipablo928: ok, yeah, edit the /etc/X11/Xfree86 config.  done that before?06:49
andrewskipablo928: are you getting an error, or is X just not starting?06:49
crimsundex1: no, that's where it becomes "fun"06:50
crimsundex1: you have to alter EXTRAVERSION to fit your --append-to-version06:50
crimsundex1: (see make-kpkg(1))06:51
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crimsundex1: then you have to make prepare in the toplevel of your kernel source06:51
sonohi... quick question: has left click button changed for nautilus at recent updates? Left clicking a folder opens de new window and autocloses current one...06:51
crimsundex1: only then can you point the vmware installation to your kernel source dir06:51
Krys_crimsun, I still have not been able to get xmms working properly, or anything to play mp3's.. think you can help me?06:51
pablo928andrewski.No' I've never edited the /etc/X11/Xfree86 configuration06:52
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dex1crimsun: Yessss.. Sounds fun :P Is there a detailed step-by-step howto guide which tells one exactly how to do all that?06:52
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andrewskipablo928: xfreeconf, IIRC.06:53
sonothat means, default action is autoclose previous window at nautilus... anyone with a fast solution?06:53
crimsundex1: not that I'm aware of06:53
andrewskipablo928: sorry, xfreeconfig06:53
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dex1crimsun: Mmm hmm... As a person new to Linux (let alone this distro), what should I do then06:54
crimsundex1: essentially what I stated above :)06:55
dex1This??: crimsun: dex1: no, that's where it becomes "fun" crimsun: dex1: you have to alter EXTRAVERSION to fit your --append-to-version crimsun: dex1: (see make-kpkg(1))06:56
crimsundex1: you can deduce what you need to add to EXTRAVERSION from your uname -r06:56
andrewskipablo928: does that work?06:56
crimsunEXTRAVERSION is a field in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.8.1/Makefile06:56
dex1ok, I'll go type uname -r at the command prompt once it finishes downlading the last thing06:56
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pablo928andrewski the command xfreeconfig isn't working, "command not found"06:57
saik0Totem-xine is telling me I need libdvdcss, and it's not in the repos (at least not under that name)06:57
andrewskipablo928: xfreecfg?06:57
pablo928andrewski i'll try that next06:58
andrewskipablo928: :)06:58
Krys_crimsun, any idea how to help my sound problem?06:58
Xirawhat apt package has the kernel source?06:58
lunitikX --configure ... or dpkg-reconfigure xorg.conf ... or just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ...06:58
andrewskilunitik: Xfree for pablo92806:58
lunitikXira: linux-source-`uname -r`06:58
andrewskilunitik: so i don't remember the right command names. ;)06:59
icaruspablo928, sudo nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-406:59
andrewskiicarus: except that pablo928 doesn't really know how to edit it.06:59
lunitikandrewski: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8606:59
andrewskilunitik: tell pablo928 :)06:59
icarusandrewski, can i post links in here?06:59
andrewskiicarus: huh?06:59
geneo91crimsun:  http://pastebin.com/26552806:59
icarusweb page links...06:59
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lunitikhaha... I'm high... first command would have been Xorg --configure ... dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... (last part was right)07:00
andrewskiicarus: uh, yeah?  why are you asking me?07:00
lunitikpablo928: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8607:00
icarusandrewski, never done this before.  don't know who to ask... ;)07:00
lunitikbob2 got famous for that line  8)07:00
andrewskiicarus: oh. ;)  yeah, sure.07:00
lunitik~be bob207:00
lunitik:'(07:00
andrewskilunitik: which line?07:01
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dex1crimsun: The vmware support forums aren't much use, but did say this, in reference to telling it the path of the C header files (follows). is this what we're doing? "make sure that you have installed kernel-headers (or equivalent of it under ubuntu; it is kernel-headers under Debian and kernel-sources on SUSE, Mandrake and old RedHat; on FC3 it is just part of kernel package). Make sure that version of kernel-{headers,source} package exactly matches with ve07:01
lunitikandrewski: no idea... I wasn't following the question... just trying to figure out wtf xfreeconf was supposed to be  ;)07:01
andrewskilunitik: which line was bob2 famous for?07:01
Xiracouldn't find package linux-source-2.6.10-5-38607:01
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lunitikandrewski: ohh.... dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8607:02
DAC1138has anyone here ordered the free ubuntu cds that ubuntulinux.org ships?07:02
DAC1138im wondering if they ship the live cds or the installation cds07:02
lunitikDAC1138: yes07:02
andrewskilunitik: ah, ok. :)07:02
lunitikDAC1138: both07:02
DAC1138i just set an order for the 5.04 hoary cds07:02
Xiraguys07:02
Xirahelp >.>07:02
Xiracouldn't find package linux-source-2.6.10-5-38607:02
DAC1138lunitik: for the hoary, they didnt ask for live or installation, they just asked what architechture i wanted07:02
fabbioneXira: linux-source-2.6.1007:03
andrewskipablo928: so did you catch all that?07:03
fabbionethere is no source for linux-source-2.6.10-5-38607:03
wetnoodlelooking for some help >> how to kill x server to install updated display driver07:03
Xirauhh07:03
crimsunit's linux-source-2.6.1007:03
DAC1138lunitik so are they shipping the live version on the same cd as the installation in the new hoary release?07:03
saik0uhhh even VLC is'nt playing DVDs what gives?07:03
lunitikXira: see what crimsun said... apt-cache search linux source | grep linux-source07:04
lunitik2.6.11 is there too...07:04
crimsunsaik0: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:04
crimsunplease do not use 2.6.11 from universe07:04
fabbione2.6.11 is NOT supported07:04
andrewskicrimsun: why not?07:04
lunitikDAC1138: alll archs have a live cd now... (or rather, the livecd can run on all arches... if I'm not mistaken...)07:04
fabbioneandrewski: because it is not 2.6.1107:04
andrewski??07:04
fabbioneandrewski: it's a bk snapshot between 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 final07:05
fabbioneversion 0.207:05
andrewskifabbione: and thusly not very stable, eh?07:05
fabbioneand in universe = we don't support it07:05
alka_trashoh07:05
lunitikcrimsun: wouldn't the universe package be 'kernel-source' etc (following Debian's naming scheme...)07:05
andrewskifabbione: well, yes.07:05
fabbioneand can trash your machine07:05
lunitikfabbione: ^^07:05
mindwarpI had bad results with 2.6.11 today also07:05
fabbionelunitik: not necessrely07:05
mindwarpmy X  kept freezing randomly07:06
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lunitikfabbione: that was the impression I was under... Ubuntu kernels are 'linux-blah-foo' and Debian's (Universe) was 'kernel-blah-foo'...07:06
saik0crimsun, ahhh theres libdvdcdd =)\07:07
crimsunlunitik: yes, but in this case, there was a snapshot of 2.6.11 generated for testing.07:07
saik0css*07:07
fabbionelunitik: as crimsun says07:07
geneo91hehe all you geeks on the edge07:07
geneo91even i didn't use that07:08
fabbioneedge is not always good07:08
lunitikfabbione: /me shuts up after looking @ maintainer line07:08
geneo91fabbione:  true07:08
mindwarp2.6.10 has known issues with cedega which is why I wanted to go 2.6.1107:08
alka_trashfabbione: ( sorry to butt in ) but it's exciting !07:08
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crimsunmindwarp: wait a week or so for Breezy's opening ;)07:08
Greg___I need to recompile PHP, where does ubuntu put the folder I do that in?07:09
wetnoodlelooking for some help >> trying to install updated NVIDIA driver >> how do I kill xserver07:09
geneo91crimsun:  did you get a look at that07:09
Greg___or do i need to redownload the source?07:09
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fabbionealka_trash: i agree :) but i don't reccomend it for users that want stability and a working system07:09
fabbionespecially when: A) they are not ready to deal with breakage b) they don't have the knowledge to handle it07:10
alka_trashfabbione: yep I agree with you too07:10
lunitikfabbione: grr... should have like a 'test' or something in the ubuntu part of the name if they are not in main...07:10
PDwetnoodle: just make the changes and llog out and log in, your V server is restarted07:10
fabbionelunitik: if they are not in main, they are not supported. the separation is clear07:10
andrewskifabbione: aren't a) and b) usually the same? :P07:10
fabbioneandrewski: no07:10
dex1crimsun: It's still downloading linux-source-2.6.8.1.  When it's finished and I've typed uname blah a bit, will "the version of the kernel-{headers,source} package exactly match with version of kernel package I have installed"07:10
fabbioneandrewski: a lot of people like to run on edge 'cuz 15 l33707:11
lunitikfabbione: except for those that have universe enabled... and recognize prior naming schemes...07:11
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fabbioneandrewski: but they don't have the knowledge to recover07:11
andrewskifabbione: what i find funny is that there are so many users switching from distros like gentoo, so they mostly likely 'know' how to deal with breakage... and don't like to on a regular basis. ;P07:11
fabbionelunitik: name scheme has nothing to do with main/universe07:11
dex1Heck, I'd be happy if I could just install.07:11
holycowhttp://bloodshed.net/wired/?sid=5  <-- holy shit07:11
wetnoodlePD: i log out but i can't figure out how to get to a shell07:11
holycowman that sequences looks nice07:11
lunitikfabbione: I have taken it for granted for 6 months that kernel-*-* was Debian and linux-*-* was Ubuntu... and that the ubuntu one was supported...07:11
crimsundex1: no, hence the finagling with EXTRAVERSION07:11
lunitikfabbione: its a few letters to add to the package name  *shrug* .07:12
PDwetnoodle: you type Ctrl+Alt+F1 you well get a shell prompt07:12
andrewskiholycow: holy cow!07:12
crimsungeneo91: look at your dmesg and note the spew regarding hdd:07:12
wetnoodlePD: at the logon screen?07:12
andrewskiholycow: for kde?07:12
fabbionelunitik: we are allowed to add unsupported packages.. you know? ;)07:12
PDwetnoodle: any screen07:12
wetnoodlePD: okay07:12
geneo91crimsun:  i booted with audio cd in drive just for that07:12
holycowandrewski, probably, i found it by accident07:12
fabbioneholycow: that looks neat...07:13
andrewskiholycow: reading web site to see... :)07:13
lunitikfabbione: not the point... I didn't see that it was in Universe till just now... I assumed via naming scheme that it was...07:13
fabbioneis there any package around for it?07:13
alka_trashthat does look good07:13
geneo91crimsun:  prior to that it reported to be normal07:13
holycownope07:13
holycowwxgtk07:13
Greg___does anyone know..if I want to recompile PHP (i.e. run ./configure) what directory that is in?07:13
holycow:)07:13
ruffiancrimsun: Hi, i found a easy solution on google regarding the sound problem. I have posted on the forum - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2200107:13
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holycowthats why it looks right in kde07:13
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Greg___or do I need to get the latest source?07:13
alka_trashdon't for Rosegarden :) http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/07:14
andrewskialka_trash: this looks a bit different....07:14
alka_trashtrue07:14
holycow*ooo* bookmark07:14
holycowright right :)07:14
holycowdanke!07:14
mindwarpanyone else check out planet.gnome.org?07:14
mindwarplol07:14
andrewskiholycow: this may be enough to get a friend of mine to give up windows. :P07:15
alka_trashanother good shot of rosegarden07:15
alka_trashhttp://www.rosegardenmusic.com/tour/audio/07:15
holycowtest it first, you don't want it to be too buggy07:15
andrewskiholycow: well, i don't think it's release-ready, but i'll let him know to keep his eyes peeled. :P07:15
alka_trashI looks more mature, hard to tell from the shots though07:15
pablo928andrewski thanks for your help. I edited the xfree configuration, still no display, Guess it doesn't like my old sis video.07:16
holycow*nod* me too07:16
andrewskipablo928: dunno, i'd search on google for that card to see if there are any tips already out there.07:16
andrewskipablo928: i'm no Xpert. :P07:16
crimsunruffian: it should be fixed already.07:16
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alka_trashI hope the gnome gets some of it's fatty code cleaned out, I would really like it to run better on my old laptop07:17
ruffiancrimsun: Alright :)07:17
crimsunruffian: right, that mute/unmute works fine.07:17
andrewskialka_trash: xfce. :)07:17
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ruffiancrimsun: Yep, i just tested my self :)07:18
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pablo928andrewski i can always put my ati card in again, but i'm short pci slots.....have to talke out my soundcard again07:18
scotthow do I configure ubuntu to show drop shadows on windows?07:18
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alka_trashandrewski: is there a good menu system for xfce though?07:18
icaruspablo928, what happens when you type startx at the prompt?07:18
helio7err how do I tar -czvf a directory?07:18
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alka_trashI can't stand building all my icons07:18
wetnoodlePD: didn't have any luck with that07:18
andrewskialka_trash: uh... it uses the system menu and actually has a menu editor. :P07:18
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helio7err how do I tar -czvf a directory? (and everything in it)07:18
alka_trashreally07:18
saik0crimsun, ahhh works, but the video is choppy with DVDs in both VLC and with gstreamer. any suggestions?07:18
alka_trashI give it a shot again07:18
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Flonnehelio7, tar -cvzf mytar.tar.gz mydir/07:19
andrewskialka_trash: make sure to get 4.2.  see os-cillation for a repository maintained by one of the xfce devs.07:19
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helio7ty Flonne07:19
holycowsomeone has to figure out how to point apt at source forge and autogenerate packages07:19
holycow>_>07:19
holycowtheres just so much incredible stuff on there07:19
holycowman07:19
holycowi've been on there for years and it still amazes me07:19
wetnoodlePD: i was able to get into a shell using Ctrl+Alt+F1 - but when i tried to run the driver installer it still said i was running x07:20
Flonneholycow, some other distros do that; they also tend to be quite unstable.07:20
g14holycow: But that would totally screw the dependency tree07:20
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g14holycow: if you expect developers of each app to create a dependency list you are asking for problems07:20
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pablo928icarus:when I type startx, i get command not found07:21
icaruswetnoodle, edit /etc/inittab and change the default runlevel to 2.  or uninstall your login manager until you're done.07:21
crimsunandrewski: we're merging XFce 4.2.1.1 already.  https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUXfce07:21
helio7Ok, If i'm ssh'ed into my webhost and want to retrieve something can I scp to my machine from within the ssh shell, or should I quit and scp or ftp?07:21
Flonnewetnoodle, just kill X.07:21
holycowg4, it was more of a comment in passing :)07:21
FlonneIt's easier than hacking files.07:21
andrewskicrimsun: hmm, why the delay?07:21
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andrewski(no offense)07:21
holycow*nod* i don't run gentoo for a reason as well07:21
holycowhehe :)07:21
wetnoodleFlonne: that's what i'm trying to do07:21
PDwetnoodle: in the shell prompt do /etc/init.d/gdm stop07:22
saik0hmm, does anybody know why DVD video would be choppy?07:22
helio7hope the general linux questions aren't too far off topic winces*07:22
Flonnewetnoodle, sudo kill `pidof gdm` `pidof X`07:22
FlonneThat should do it...07:22
ruffianbrb07:22
FlonneOr stop it cleanly. >.>07:22
Flonnelisten to PD.07:22
crimsunandrewski: those packages are horridly complicated, not to mention several have severely screwed licenses.  Moreover, our pool master has been very busy.07:22
wetnoodleokay07:22
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g14saik0: linux isn't real time enough for video07:22
andrewskicrimsun: horribly complicated and screwed licenses?07:22
wetnoodlePD: and I can do this from any shell as root correct?07:23
Flonnehelio7, I tend to use FTP and SSH together.07:23
holycowg14, tell that to the guy that directed sin city07:23
g14saik0: thats why there are patches for the kernel for true audio / video distros like agnula07:23
holycowrobert rodriguez07:23
helio7Flonne: in seperate windows?07:23
FlonneYes.07:23
saik0g14, nonsense.....I had a mythTV box working perfectly with fedora as a distro...07:23
PDwetnoodel: yes, make sure you are in the Ctrl+Alt+F1 mode07:23
helio7brilliant; thanks07:23
holycowg14, oh you mean stock kernel? *nod*07:23
saik0g14, at least I hope it's nonsense07:23
PDwetnoodle: as root or you can use sudo07:23
dex1crimsun: It's finished downloading that. I type uname -r but all that happens is 2.6.8.1-3-386 is echoed onto a line and it goes back to the prompt. What should it/I be doing?07:23
crimsunandrewski: non-DFSG free07:24
andrewskicrimsun: hmm, thought it was GPL... /me looks it up.07:24
wetnoodlePD: when I'm done installing - how do I come back into my session07:24
crimsunandrewski: not all the sources are07:24
PDwetnoodle: /etc/init.d/gdm start07:24
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g14saik0: nonsense? I am talking about professional av stuff07:24
andrewskicrimsun: know off-hand which aren't?07:24
wetnoodlePD: that's what I thought07:24
crimsunandrewski: noted on the wiki page07:25
g14saik0: you might want a bit more before you call something nonsence you dont know about07:25
andrewskicrimsun: ubuntu's?07:25
PDwetnoodle: if it doses not come back it means the drivers are not proper, so be care full and make backup of the X file if needed07:25
g14*read a bit more*07:25
crimsunandrewski: the one I pasted above07:25
PDwetnoodle: cool07:25
PD:)07:25
wetnoodlePD: thanks - i'll give it a shot07:25
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dex1Should I have been expecting more when I typed "uname -r" ? :/07:25
hohlraumhey guys.. whats the magic package to enable DVD playback in totem?07:26
g14I set up a professional recording studio using ardour, rosegarden, and jack on agnula07:26
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andrewskicrimsun: a theme?!07:26
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saik0g14, hey all I was trying to say was that I have sucessfully played DVDs without any skipping on other distros. I never meant to offended you and apologize if I did07:26
crimsunyep.07:26
archangel_hey guys I got point2play recently and I'm running Hoary and everytime I try to lauch transgaming with aptget it says package not found07:27
ruffianEverytime i run gvim, i get the following message: (vim:7994): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:07:27
ruffianAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.07:27
archangel_I saved it to my desktop07:27
ruffianThe program runs fine07:27
ruffianbut why does it do that?07:27
andrewskicrimsun: and shouldn't all the references be to "Xfce", not "XFce"?07:27
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crimsunandrewski: sure07:28
g14saik0: thats fine. Linux having timing and sync issues with audio / video is a known issue. Fedora also uses a highly modified kernel07:28
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archangel_can anyone help me install point2play?07:29
crimsunarchangel_: #cedega07:29
archangel_as root?07:29
crimsunarchangel_: join the irc channel on this network07:29
g14type /join #cedega in the chat window07:29
archangel_ok thanks07:30
dex1crimsun:  I type uname -r but all that happens is 2.6.8.1-3-386 is echoed onto a line and it goes back to the prompt. I'm meant to  deduce what I need to add to EXTRAVERSION from your uname -r output. All I get is those numbers. Without much real idea of where/how to add them either. *cries*07:30
andrewskicrimsun: well, all banter aside, thanks for helping to get Xfce in hoary; maybe one of these days, i'll be an MOTU and i can help out too, but who has time? :P07:30
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crimsunandrewski: (it's a matter of whether you make time)07:30
Quaruptanyone know what this error means, comes when i try to mount my PSP?07:30
Quaruptroot@ubuntu:/home/sean # libhal.c 911 : Error sending msg: No property info.cate gory on device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_usb_device_54c_1c8_100_- 1_noserial_007:30
geneo91crimsun:  its only audio cds it cant see07:30
andrewskicrimsun: maybe.  priorities, right?  i have a baby on the way.... :)07:30
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mike8901HOLY SHIT! PRESIDENT BUSH WAS JUST IMPEACHED!!07:30
Quaruptfunny07:30
ruffianright07:30
g14seriously?07:31
PacoBCNwhat?07:31
g14for what07:31
Quarupthe is full of bs07:31
holycownonsense07:31
crimsunmike8901: shush.07:31
mike8901april fools :P07:31
dex1haha. pfft07:31
PacoBCNhaha07:31
geneo91mike8901:  your the only fool that beelieves that07:31
Quaruptso anyone know that error?07:31
terry97lol07:31
PD:)07:31
crimsunremember the CoC holds regardless of what date it is.07:31
ruffianlol07:31
PacoBCNthis reminds me it's my brother's birthday07:31
andrewskimike8901: hopefully you'll get better as the day goes on.  keep practicing.07:31
dex1mike: shush, we're discussing  something about extraversion here and what I should DO. !07:31
dex1quar: No, I don't.07:31
crimsunandrewski: congrats. :)07:31
Mestapheleshey07:32
crimsunandrewski: I don't suppose you'll have time for the next 19 years. ;)07:32
ruffianWill be back later07:32
andrewskicrimsun: thanks.07:32
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crimsundex1: look at the top-level Makefile07:33
crimsundex1: then look at your uname -r07:33
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crayhttp://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition-sign.html07:33
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Mestaphelescan someone tell me why apt-get dist-upgrade gives me more packages to install than apt-get update?  I've already upgraded to hoary sometime ago so I'd think htat they would do the same thing.07:34
dex1crimsun: What, you mean type "nano /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.8.1/Makefile" ?07:34
wetnoodlePD: i hate to keep pestering - but when I ran the nvidia installer - it told me something to the extent of not having a kernel interface07:34
da_bon_bonMestapheles: upgrade doesnt change system packaes07:34
saik0g14, I figured out the problem DMA was diabled on my DVD drive07:34
da_bon_bonMestapheles: they dont do the same thing, either07:34
g14saik0: that would definatly do it :)07:35
sonoHi friends.  Why has spatial nautilus adopted the autoclose previous window policy as default after yesterday's updates?  How may I change that back?07:35
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PDwetnoodle: may be you have to install the kernel headers07:35
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saik0g14, sure would! not sure why ubuntu would come installed like that, I'm sure they have some reason. now to figure out a way to do this globally07:36
Mestaphelesthnks07:36
PDwetnoodle: do uname -r find out the kernel version and install the headers for that07:36
PDwetnoodle: you can get the headers by apt-get07:36
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wetnoodlePD: so - apt-get '?'07:37
g14saik0: hdparm has a save option07:37
PDwetnoodle: well apt-get gets the packeage from the repo07:37
topylihmm... wanda is in a playful mood today07:38
Mestaphelesda_bon_bon: but the thing is that both a this point in time, already being upgraded to hoary, you'd think they should both just update software already installed. Shouldn't they?07:38
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PacoBCNstill can't understand why I have to restart dbus-1 for showing my drives icons in gnome...07:38
saik0g14, found /etc/hdpram.conf also works07:38
brainZzZu.s. uses thai base as tsunami relief hub networks.org/?src=ap:tsunami-us-help07:38
g14saik0: man hdparm will show you that the -k option will allow you to keep settings over reboot. Yep07:38
dex1bbl07:38
newbie1hi, i'm having a bit of  a problem with my screen resolution, i wonder if anyone can help me?07:38
da_bon_bonMestapheles: as i said, update doesnt update system packages07:38
PDwetnoodle: whats the output of uname -r07:38
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wetnoodlePD: 2.6.10-5-38607:39
Mestaphelesxfce4 a system package?07:39
PDwetnoodle: you are using hoary preview right07:40
wetnoodlePD: i believe so - i just installed it tonight07:40
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brainZzZi just installed it07:40
wetnoodlePD: yes - it is the hoary preview07:40
Mestaphelesxfce4 and plugings were bring held back by upgrade while dist-upgrade installed them.07:41
crimsunMestapheles: they're being rebuilt.07:41
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crimsunMestapheles: please see https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUXfce07:41
Mestaphelessure07:41
mercurusabout how big is the Warty base footprint ?07:42
mercurusie. how big is the basic, GUI-free install ?07:42
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geneo91crimsun:  any ideas why it wont see audio cds07:42
andrewskiMestapheles: there's also a repository maintained by an xfce dev at os-cillation.com07:42
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crimsunMestapheles: the core of Xfce 4.2.1.1 should be completely done in ~2 hours.07:42
camI'm having troubles with out of range resolutions07:42
andrewskicrimsun: oh, that soon?  wow.07:42
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PDwetnoodle:do apt-get kernel-headers-2.6.10 and try07:43
hohlraumdoes totem/gstreamer not support dvd playback at all? .. installed the css lib and still no go.07:43
crimsunandrewski: actually I have them completely done locally (these are Benny's, btw, but we've fixed his errors)07:43
wetnoodlePD: will do07:43
andrewskicrimsun: it'll be nice not to need the os-cillation.com repository anymore. :)07:43
camgdm is in 1280x1024, but my desktop is in 1024x76807:43
andrewskicrimsun: his errors?  the ones mentioned on the wikipage?  bad control files?07:43
Mestapheleskool07:43
newbie1i'm stuck at 640x480, and i keep getting "Not using default mode... hsync out of range" in the xfree86 log07:43
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tritiumwetnoodle, you want linux-headers rather than kernel-headers07:43
PDwetnoodle: if tht does not work try apt-get linux-headers-version07:43
crimsunandrewski: not just, but they don't build cleanly on Ubuntu.  We fixed that.07:43
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andrewskicrimsun: oh, nice.  are there major changes from an end-user perspective, i.e. ones that a user would notice?07:44
crimsunandrewski: no.  If you already use os-works.com debs, you won't notice any difference.07:45
andrewskicrimsun: and is xfwm4 built with the compositor enabled?07:45
crimsunno, would you like it to be?07:45
andrewskicrimsun: yes.07:45
andrewskicrimsun: you can en/disable it then from the command line when you start it up.07:45
crimsunandrewski: have you used it under Hoary?07:46
wetnoodlePD: apt seems to be borked07:46
andrewskicrimsun: no, i used to use it in gentoo.  it's much more stable and performs better than xcompmgr.07:46
wetnoodlePD: apt-get linux-headers-2.6.10 returns an invalid operation07:46
crimsunandrewski: I'm hesitant to enable it by default unless at least a few people say they've pleasant experiences with it.07:47
andrewskicrimsun: i'm not very good at building from source, otherwise i would've used it in hoary.  i've never figured out a good way to do that in a package-based distro. :)07:47
tritiumwetnoodle, linux-headers-2.6.10-507:47
Dreamer3_crimsun: yes, please build the compositor in - i've heard good things :)07:47
andrewskicrimsun: well, you could enable it in the build and make the default xinitrc disable it.  you'd never know the difference, but those users (however few) who wanted it would be able to make the change.07:48
Dreamer3_crimsun: if i can put in my 2 cents :)07:48
geneo91dont forget install07:48
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andrewskicrimsun: i'll scour the forums real quick to see if anyone mentions using it.07:48
crimsunDreamer3_: heard != experienced on Hoary.07:48
tritiumwetnoodle, you can also use `uname -r` for the version number07:48
wetnoodletritium: same thing07:48
Dreamer3_crimsun: true :) but on other boxes... hoary is just X.org :)07:48
crimsunDreamer3_: keep in mind we're targetting a few million users here.  It _must_ be stable.  :)07:48
fabbioneholycow: wired is a royal pain to compile. it has too much specific code that is not really good07:48
Dreamer3_crimsun: well, i agree with andrewski, not default, just "there"07:48
fabbioneholycow: too bad because it looks nice07:48
Dreamer3_crimsun: who has usage stats for ubuntu?07:49
Mestaphelesnewbie1: what was your question?07:49
crimsunDreamer3_: good question.07:49
hohlraumanyone know if the resolution switching bug is going to be fixed before the final?07:49
newbie1mestapheles: i'm stuck at 640x480 @ 60 hz07:49
Mestaphelesdid you edit /etc/X11/xorg.cong ?07:50
newbie1mestapheles: i've tried tu run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8607:51
newbie1mestapheles: that didn't work07:51
holycowfabbione, really? oh too bad :(07:51
Mestaphelesyes that might work but editing the file by hand is sometimes necessary07:51
holycowmaybe its just a factor of being very very early code07:51
wetnoodlePD: i forgot to type 'source'07:51
holycowthanks for letting me know :)07:51
holycowwetnoodle, haha!07:52
Mestaphelesare you sure your video card and moniter support that?07:52
holycowlove the nick07:52
Dreamer3_hey, this update thing is cool, but it died after it updaded itself07:52
Dreamer3_i'm assuming it might restart if i restart gnome07:52
wetnoodleholycow: it suits me07:52
holycowyou wouldn't happen to be the same wetnoodle for izwares mirai forums, wouldja?07:52
PDwetnoodle: try it07:52
newbie1mestapheles: and what do i have to look for when i open xorg.cong?07:52
Mestaphelessection screen07:53
wetnoodleholycow: if that is code for [M]  then yes - if not - no07:53
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Mestaphelesdo it as sudo. but before you do that, you did try the gnome moniter utility right?07:53
andrewskicrimsun: nothing quick on the forums.  #xfce! :)07:53
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holycow i have no idea what [m]  stands for, mirai is a piece of 3d animation software long defunct, there was a frequent poster on their forum with your nick, just curious07:53
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newbie1mestapheles: ok, i'll try to work it out from there. do you know what does "hsync out of range" mean?07:54
|QuaD-is there a reason i am missing System.data in mono on hoary??? i am missing a bunch of libraries, am i missing a package?07:54
jesusfishwhat's the advantage to running Ubuntu over Deian?07:54
jesusfishDebian07:54
Mestapheleswhat are your running?07:54
g14ubuntu is great for a desktop07:54
wetnoodlePD: do i have to do anything with the headers after apt-get gets them?07:54
g14debian sucks for a desktop07:54
Dr_Willisi find that ubuntu is more polished.. and has much nicer set of beginner/faq/docs07:54
Mestapheleshoary I take it if your're using xorg07:55
g14And ubuntu has alot of money behind it making it good on the desktop07:55
andrewskicrimsun: why don't you try it out? :)07:55
PDwetnoodle: it might work wit out doing anything mostly07:55
Mestapheleswell if you upgraded ther could be something missing bu I doubt it.  I upgraded and only missed locales07:55
crimsunandrewski: as it stands, it's already enabled. :)07:55
andrewskicrimsun: i.e. i couldn't find anything. :P07:55
wetnoodlePD: okay - i'll try installing the driver again07:55
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jesusfishI'm guessing my best way to migrate is to install from scratch07:55
wetnoodlePD: is there a way to keep this session running?07:55
crimsunandrewski: i.e., it was already enabled in debian/rules07:56
andrewskicrimsun: ah, ok.07:56
newbie1mestapheles: actually i'm not, i went back to hoary07:56
Mestaphelestry apt-get update then dist-upgrade, then update.  If something goes wrong try sudo apt-get -f install .  That solved a few problems for me07:56
andrewskicrimsun: have you tried it?07:56
crimsunandrewski: I'm not going to try it until 'xfce4' will succeed in installing from pool.  (I'm waiting on the buildds.)07:57
PDwetnoodle: didnt get you07:57
jesusfishhow stable is Hoary compared to Sid?07:57
Mestapheleshoary is the second release.  Did you upgrade07:57
Mestapheles?07:57
andrewskicrimsun: over my head, but i understood "not yet". :)07:57
gunnmjki'm having trouble mounting my powerbooks hd when running off of the hoary live cd07:57
newbie1mestapheles: i still haven't worked out my problem with the dsl modem07:57
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Mestaphelesso you're using warty07:58
wetnoodlePD: this gdm session - i would imagine there isn't -07:58
newbie1mestapheles: so i don't have any i'net connection yet :(07:58
crimsunandrewski: not for another couple hours.  It has to finish on 4 different architectures.07:58
andrewskicrimsun: oh, ok.07:58
wetnoodlePD: i just want to keep xchat running so i don't have to connect again if possible07:58
wetnoodlePD: not that it's a big deal07:58
Mestapheles/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 is the file you want to edit then07:58
andrewskicrimsun: FWIW, i won't touch xcompmgr with a 10-foot pole, but i would use xfwm4's. :)07:58
newbie1mestapheles: ok, thanks!!07:59
Mestaphelesbuena suerte07:59
jesusfishhow stable is Hoary compared to Sid?07:59
PDwetnoodle: there are command line tools available like irssi to connect to IRC from the command, so you can have that running in Ctrl+Alt+F207:59
MestaphelesI think hoary is more stable07:59
DanC_ubhmm... "download changelog" doesn't seem to work for ubuntu in synaptic. does ubuntu not publish changelogs in the expected way?07:59
PDwetnoodle: you can use command line terminals from F1 to F608:00
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mdzwe do, they just aren't updated very often at the moment08:00
andrewskijesusfish: it'll be officially released this month, but i've been using it since january. :)08:00
jesusfishand how good is Ubuntu's KDE support?08:00
Mestapheleshoary has a lot of fixes over warty.  My accel now works08:00
andrewskijesusfish: kubuntu has a website. ;)08:00
wetnoodlePD: sounds good08:00
jesusfishandrewski: I thought Ubuntu had kde in it anyways08:00
Flonnejesusfish, www.kubuntu.org; #kubuntu08:00
andrewskijesusfish: yes, kubuntu aims to make it better and has a default install with KDE *instead of* Gnome.08:01
PDwetnoodle: for connecting through irssi you can try the #man irssi08:01
geneo91jesusfish:  kde 3.4 is great08:01
Mestapheleskubuntu08:01
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Dreamer31crimsun: you repackaging xfce for ubuntu? did that wiki page ever happen?08:01
andrewskijesusfish: but yes, you can get it installed too with ubuntu, just not on the install CD.08:01
jesusfishgeneo91: ya, been using it for a while08:01
andrewskiDreamer31: yes, he pasted it a while ago.08:01
Dreamer31crimsun: you need xterminal and mousepad too :)08:01
andrewskicrimsun: Dreamer31's right... xterminal, anyway. :)08:01
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jesusfishare there any netinstalls?08:02
crimsunDreamer31: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUXfce08:02
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crimsunDreamer31: they're in, too, but they're lower on the merge priority list.08:02
rdw200169this sucks... i just went throught this big pain in the *** getting kernel 2.6.11-1 working08:03
rdw200169and now the mouse won't work08:03
andrewskirdw200169: why use 2.6.11?08:03
crimsunbbl08:04
rdw200169and the forums are telling me that 2.6.11-2 magically fix the problem08:04
rdw200169so i can play Pirates!08:04
geneo91rdw200169:  its a kernel snapshot thats why08:04
andrewskirdw200169: yeah, it's kinda bleeding edge.08:04
rdw200169i know... so now i'm gonna find source and do that even bigger pain in the ass...08:04
Dreamer31crimsun: ah08:04
Dreamer31crimsun: i'm reviewing the page now08:05
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rdw200169what page?08:05
Mestaphelesnewbie1:  "hsync out of range" probibly means that you don't have the horizontal out of sync08:05
andrewskirdw200169: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUXfce08:05
awb4422ok why are there 3 weird dudes on GDM lol08:05
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andrewskirdw200169: Xfce wikipage on adding it to hoary.08:05
lewwywhats better, gnome of KDE?08:05
rdw200169oh, thanks08:05
andrewskilewwy: preference. :)08:05
lewwygnome or* KDE08:05
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Mestapheleslewwy:xfce4 is the best08:06
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Mestaphelesreally08:06
dex1Is Crimsun still around?08:06
rdw200169lewwy: i like KDE... menu editing is MUCH easier... and you can add Karamba Themes...08:06
andrewskiheh, lewwy's gone already.08:06
awb4422oh apparently it was an april fools joke08:06
topylithrow in the bait, and run08:06
andrewskiapril trolls!08:06
geneo91andrewski:  he just wanted to stirr the pot08:07
dex1Crimsun: Hi, I can't work out what I'm supposed to be doing?? The uname -r output is just "2.6.8.1-3-386". Am I meant to be typing "sudo nano /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.8.1/Makefile" to type that number into? Because that's an empty non-existing file.08:07
andrewskigeneo91: yeah, the channel isn't busy enough already. :P08:07
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Mestapheleswhat do you do with fbsd trolls?  anyone?  I'm thinking of making a shirt for install-fest that says something like "sudo rm -rf fbsd"08:07
dex1Or does anyone else have any ideas?08:08
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geneo91andrewski:  i dont really care what others use as long as its linux08:08
FlonneMestapheles, I use fBSD. :(08:09
andrewskigeneo91: yeah, really.  kde may be windows-like, but it's pretty sweet.08:09
dex1Apparently I need to alter EXTRAVERSION to fit my --append-to-version :((08:09
jesusfishso basically ubuntu/kubuntu are cutting-edge Debian geared for desktop08:09
MestaphelesI really don't mind, I just want ot get on his nerves simply because he's a troll08:09
dex1jesus: when/if they work08:09
FlonneThat's one way of looking at it, jesusfish.08:09
geneo91i had xp on this box for two weeks and put 98se back on08:09
lunitikjesusfish: sure...08:09
lunitikgeneo91: that was smart.08:10
MestaphelesI am not hostile to bsd really, but I really dislike him because he is hostile to gpl and anything gnu-linux08:10
FlonneAh... One of those people.08:10
geneo91lunitik:  i have 7 oses on this thing08:10
FlonneLike me to Windows...08:10
jesusfishman, stupid slow servers08:11
dex1Would anyone be willing to chat off from the main channel with me to attempt to get this ubuntu install working? It's been several days, two machines and it's really getting me down now. :(08:11
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jesusfish170KB/s08:11
jesusfishit's like crawling08:11
holycowgeneo91, isn't xp an abomination?08:11
holycowi just bloody hate that thing08:11
holycowheh08:11
Flonnedex1, I would, but my responses may be a bit intermittent for about half an hour.08:12
geneo91yes i fix more boxes with xp on them than any other08:12
holycowgeneo91, me too08:13
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holycowi've seen all sorts of bizarre things08:13
dex1Flonne: Well, if you do become open to volunteering I'll take it. Been several days; I appreciate all the volunteer help so far of course :/08:13
holycowon one we had to reinstall the entire os to get it to like modem drivers08:13
gunnmjkI was reading some *old* documentation and it was saying that linux can't read an HFS+ partition, and macos X can't read a linux partition. Is this still true in the current versions of Ubunto?08:13
geneo91most of them have exploit on them08:13
holycowspyware? heh, thats windows for ya *nod*08:13
Flonnedex1, query away.08:13
dex1It's installing on vmware, should I stop now?08:14
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gunnmjkhmmm guess nobody here's a mac user08:14
geneo91had one it took four days to fix with over 700 infected files08:15
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Dreamer33crimsun: looks like most of the work is done :)08:15
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dex1flonne: I was told to type uname -r. That just returned "2.6.8.1-3-386" (this was all after downloading a source file first). Then, apparently, I need to "alter EXTRAVERSION to fit my --append-to-version"? That's where I'm lost.08:16
Flonnedex1, well, I've installed VMWare under Arch, Debian, and Gentoo in the past two years... I'll help as much as I can, but my methods may be unorthodox.08:16
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jesusfishgunnmjk: I beleive newer kernels support hfs+08:16
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dex1If unorthodox=nevertheless-works then it's good to me ;)08:16
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jesusfishgunnmjk: haven't booted into Linux on my PowerBook for a while though, so I can't remember for sure08:17
groverdex1: I am installing on vmware too08:17
dex1grover: on what operating system?08:17
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groverXP08:17
PDgunnmjk: linux can read it you have to recomplile the linux kernel with hsf+ pathch and thats it08:17
DanC_ubhmm... I can't install realtime-lsm-source because kernel headers are not available for 2.6.8.1-3-386; newer kernels don't seem to work with this VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) ... I think I found out why one night, but now I have forgotten08:17
Flonneunorthodox=might-not-be-upgradable, since it might require using a custom kernel.08:17
dex1grover: ditto. hope yrs goes better ;)08:17
Dreamer33dex1: is installing vmware that hard, or youre trying to install UNDER vmware?08:17
ipcopnewbiehello, i'd like to try out firestarter, but the latest version seems to be only in debian's unstable archive. can anyone put the format of the line to add to sources.list so i can use apt-get to fetch the latest firestarter?08:17
gunnmjkjesusfish, thanks. I'm planning on making my system dual boot, so it'd be nice to know what partitions i need to make before I start trying to install08:17
dex1dreamer: the latter08:17
PDgunnmjk: but by default i doubt08:17
groverdex1: what probs were you having?08:18
dex1flonne: I'm having to do that whole kernel thing currently, because it couldn't find a path to any C header files. (this is while installing VMWare tools.08:18
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jesusfishPD: hmm...I thought they introduced hfs+ a few kernels back08:18
dex1Ubuntu installed ok initially08:18
FlonneEr... You're trying to install Ubuntu in VMWare?08:18
andrewskicrimsun: status update? :P08:18
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dex1Flonne: Platform (host) is XP. The Guest OS is Ubuntu. Or would be.08:19
FlonneI've actually never done that. I only use VMWare for FreeBSD to avoid dual-booting to test stuff.08:19
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FlonneI'm not sure where to begin. :(08:19
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andrewskiis vmware FOSS?08:19
dex1It's okay.08:19
FlonneNo, andrewski.08:19
lunitikandrewski: no08:19
andrewskithat's where wine comes in?08:20
gunnmjkjesusfish, you would think so. but I wasn't able to mount my HD from the live CD doing the normal mount function08:20
ipcopnewbieanybody willing to copy their unstable dist line from /etc/apt/sources.list for me?08:20
ipcopnewbie(trying to apt-get install firestarter 1.0.3)08:20
dex1andrew: The VMware runs under windows and creates a virtual machine. On which one installs anyOS08:20
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jesusfishgunnmjk: the vanilla kernels would have it, not necessarily compiled ones08:20
lunitikandrewski: entirely different mechanism... wine is emulation ... vmware is virtualization08:20
andrewskilunitik: ah, ok.08:21
FlonneWINE Is Not an Emulator. =P08:21
topyliipcopnewbie: you mean you want to install firestarter from hoary onto a warty installation?08:21
FlonneIt's just really similar.08:21
andrewskiFlonne: almost said it. :P08:21
dex1Well, lets looks at this from another way.08:21
andrewskiipcopnewbie: just uncomment the universe repository.08:21
gunnmjkso I shouldn't expect ubuntoto have it?08:21
lunitikandrewski: you could compare vmware more closely with BOCHS or Xen ..08:21
Flonnedex1, VMWare runs under a lot of OSes.08:21
gunnmjkIt'll be my first linux install, so i'm trying to make things easy for myself08:22
andrewskilunitik: never heard of them. dunno, just wondering because i hear a lot about it.08:22
FlonneI'd cry if I had to see Windows on one of my computers.08:22
geneo91        deb http://soulmachine.net/debian unstable/08:22
dex1flonneL: I know, but I was referring to a Wine comment08:22
FlonneAh.08:22
elcuFlonne: Not a gamer then?08:22
FlonneConsole gaming is all I need.08:22
lunitikandrewski: Xen is a new feature of Linux ... nice... and being pushed by IBM, HP, Red Hat and Novell08:23
jesusfishgunnmjk: prolly not by default08:23
andrewskilunitik: hmm, i'll check it out.08:23
jesusfishgunnmjk: "Yes. HFS+ support was added to the Linux kernel early in the 2.6 series."08:23
gunnmjkOh, so I don't need the patch? nice08:23
lunitikandrewski: heh, Novell even has Netware running under it ... sound like what Microsoft is doing with NT4 and Virtual PC anyone?  :P08:23
dex1This is what I was told to do. 1) sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.8.1 (I did, it downloaded. 2) Type uname -r (I did and saw "2.6.8.1-3-386"). 3) THEN... I was told to "alter EXTRAVERSION to fit my --append-to-version" and "make prepare in the toplevel of my kernel source". Neither of which (#3) I know how to do. Being new to this all.08:24
FlonneI'm quite opposed to the existence of Windows.08:24
jesusfishgunnmjk: no patch, but u may need to compile ur own kernel08:24
andrewskilunitik: dunno. :D08:24
ipcopnewbietopyli: the version of firestarter in the ubuntu stable is < 1.0 so no dhcp config support08:24
ipcopnewbietopyli: which i was hoping to use.08:24
gunnmjkcompile my own kernal, eh. that sounds tricky08:24
dex1Any ideas on what to do next there Flonne?08:24
topyliipcopnewbie: you could get the hoary source and build  a package on warty. it's more likely to succeed than trying to install the binary08:24
PDjesusfish: sorry my knowledgee was not updated apt-get update PD-reading-habits08:24
Flonnegunnmjk, it's really not so bad, but you probably won't have to do it.08:24
jesusfishgunnmjk: easier than patching at least08:25
Flonnedex1, "next"? Sorry -- I missed your last line.08:25
jesusfishPD: lol08:25
ipcopnewbietopyli: i got the source from the firestarter home page, it failed tom configure with a perl dependency08:25
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jesusfishPD: I used to keep tabs...but I mainly use OS X on my Mac now anyways08:25
dex1This is what I was told to do. 1) sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.8.1 (I did, it downloaded. 2) Type uname -r (I did and saw "2.6.8.1-3-386"). 3) THEN... I was told to "alter EXTRAVERSION to fit my --append-to-version" and "make prepare in the toplevel of my kernel source". Neither of which (#3) I know how to do. Being new to this all.08:25
ipcopnewbietopyli: i figured, before i went to a lot of hassle, maybe i could get apt-get to do it, just for this package08:25
gunnmjkheh heh08:25
andrewskiipcopnewbie: backport?08:25
topyliipcopnewbie: use debianized sources from hoary, they will build more easily (with apt)08:25
gunnmjkI havnt even considered compiling a kernal myself yet. I think for a task like that, I'm going to need some help08:26
andrewskiipcopnewbie: if there's a version in hoary that you want, you should be able to get it from the backports project.08:26
topyliipcopnewbie: insert the hoary source repository in your sources.list. then do 'apt-get build-depend firestarter'. then 'apt-get source -b firestarter' and voila! you have a working package08:27
ipcopnewbietopyli: i'll give that a whirl. i haven't heard of the backports project... the first time i tried ubuntu was today. it's only the second debian installation i've done (much more experience w/rh)08:27
eyequeueor .. just wait until 8 april08:27
topyliit's in universe IIRC08:27
andrewskieyequeue: or ipcopnewbie could just upgrade now. :)08:27
topyliipcopnewbie: well, you may find a backport too08:27
ipcopnewbietopyli: did you say that firestarter is in universe? yes, i think thats the <1.0 version i got initially08:28
dex1Apparently I can deduce what I need to add to EXTRAVERSION from your uname -r ?? :/08:28
dex1*my08:28
topyliipcopnewbie: i mean if you get the hoary source, that'll be in hoary universe as well :)08:28
gunnmjkjesusfish, how would you recommend partitioning? From what I heard Linux is first, I'm thinking of giving it 5GB or so. Setting aside 1GB for a "swap" whatever that is (i'll figure it out later, I don't even know if I need it) and the rest for MacOS X08:28
andrewskitopyli: but if the source is in universe, why couldn't ipcopnewbie just get the package?08:28
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topyliandrewski: he wants a new version from hoary08:29
ipcopnewbieandrewski: i presume that source would be missing the dhcp support08:29
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dex1anyone?08:29
jesusfishgunnmjk: honestly, it's been a long time since I last installed Linux on my PB, so I can't remember exactly08:29
groveris the fact that there's a /.dev mounted or is this intentional?08:29
ipcopnewbieandrewski: since the packaged version doesn't have it08:29
andrewskigunnmjk: 5G may be a little close.08:29
groveris it a bug, rather08:29
Flonnegunnmjk, my suggestion is RAM x 1.5 swap, ~50-100 meg /boot, 3-4gig / (2.5 if you can't spare that), and the rest for /home. In that order.08:29
andrewskiipcopnewbie: but a newer package would; i thought that's what you were saying?08:29
Dreamer33andrewski: i have ubuntu on a 5g paritiont, but that's not counting home :)08:29
andrewskiDreamer33: what's with all the names?08:30
jesusfishgunnmjk: plus, I've never installed Ubuntu before and know that Debian was a bit of a pain when I last did it on the Mac08:30
FlonneThat should be universal, regardless of platform.08:30
ipcopnewbieandrewski: right, because according to firestarter's home page, versions > 1.0 have the dhcp support08:30
Dreamer33andrewski: i dunno, keep getting disconnected08:30
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Dreamer3well, gotta run, may be back later :)08:30
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Flonnemessaged*08:31
ipcopnewbieandrewski: this is all because i want to config dhcp on my internal LAN and don't want to learn the whole dhcpd.conf format. hell, seems like more trouble than it's worth just fora  GUI08:31
andrewskiipcopnewbie: so, if topyli is telling you to add universe, you'll get the same version, package or source, so why not use package?08:31
jesusfishgunnmjk: so I'm prolly not the nest one to answer that question08:31
topyliipcopnewbie: they do. but the hoary package probably won't work on warty, so you need to build one, or find a backport. i recommend building08:31
gunnmjkso, I'll need 4 partitions total?08:31
ipcopnewbietopyli: ok, let me see if i can find a backport then.08:32
andrewskitopyli: oh, "it probably won't work".  heh, didn't realise that.08:32
topylihehe08:32
ipcopnewbiethanks all for the tips... have to hit hay because of toddler alarm clock at 6am. :-) cheers!08:32
eyequeueandrewski:  -b source would be guaranteed to work with his libraries, a hoary package may not08:32
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andrewskieyequeue: yes, didn't realize that. :P08:33
topyliipcopnewbie: happy hacking08:33
HiddenWolfCan anyone give me the command to burn an ISO from the command line?08:33
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ipcopnewbietopyli: thanks a ton! i love ubuntu so far! (loved debian previously, but that was my ISP's installation; love it slightly less now that I've actually tried doing a fresh install)08:34
topyliHiddenWolf: copy one from the EXAMPLES section of the cdrecord man page08:34
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HiddenWolftopyli: good piont08:34
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jeffschFlonne: awesome re: partition sizes. Everything I have read on partition sizes leaves me wondering how I should partition my disk, so I end up guessing. The way you put it makes it sound so easy.08:35
randabisheh I wonder who was trying to talk with me earlier08:36
randabisthis tab was flashing08:36
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geneo91who has hoary with all the qt libs installed08:37
randabisme probably considering I'm running kde/kubuntu08:37
geneo91you have qt-designer08:38
topyligeneo91: i don't know what "all the libs" are, but i do have qt08:38
geneo91well i was going to share an app i use to chat and share files08:39
topyligeneo91: dcgui-qt?08:39
geneo91it uses a muscled server08:39
geneo91topyli:  no special thing08:40
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Flonnejeffsch, it's always open to experimentation. The values I suggest are just what tends to fit best from my experience.08:40
woodywartyHow do I use GnuPG in Evolution 2 ?08:40
jsgotangcowoodywarty: just add your key to the required tab and its set08:42
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woodywartyWell which key do I have to add:  gpg --list-keys08:42
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woodywartyWhich one ?08:42
jsgotangcoyour public key of course08:43
woodywartyI did that and it did not work out08:43
HiddenWo1fCdrecord gives me an error 'can't acces scsi<something>'08:43
elcuAny LaTeX users?08:43
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dracflamlochey08:43
jsgotangcothe 8 digit hex key08:43
HiddenWo1ftopyli: Can you assist?08:44
dracflamlocanyone know if the process of getting the nvidia 3d drivers workin on unbuntu is easy? i'm itching to ditch my curent distro08:44
syndhow do i edit hdparm.conf in hoary to automatically do hdparm -u1 -d1 /dev/hdc upon booting?08:44
HiddenWo1fdracflamloc: if you are lucky yes. :)08:44
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dracflamlocHiddenWo1f, not what i wanted to hear =P08:44
HiddenWo1fdracflamloc: Usually it works in ~2 commands, but I'm usually unlucky08:44
dracflamlocanything special that needs to be done?08:45
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syndhow do i edit hdparm.conf in hoary to automatically do hdparm -u1 -d1 /dev/hdc upon booting?08:45
syndanyone?08:45
randabisdracflamloc: not really...it generally takes 2 commands, and a restart of the x server08:45
HiddenWo1fdracflamloc: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && nvidia-glx-config enable08:45
HiddenWo1fI however am an unlucky sob who can't get them to work. :)08:46
dracflamlocdoh08:46
dracflamloci assume it uses the 2.6 kernel?08:46
dracflamlocubuntu, that is08:47
randabisdracflamloc: but of course :)08:47
jeffschFlonne: yea but most of the people who write about partioning write pages and pages, and still I end up wondering what the heck is good. You put 5 pages of geek-speek into a couple of lines of advice. Very nice.08:47
HiddenWo1fCan anyone here tell me what I need to pass to cdrecord to burn an iso with /dev/hdd?08:47
dracflamlocone last question. does it come with the kernel sources?08:48
HrdwrBoBdev=/dev/hdd08:48
HiddenWo1fdracflamloc: you can easily install them.08:48
dracflamlocthat wasnt my question ;)08:48
HiddenWo1fhrdwrbob: can you give me the entire command to be sure08:48
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dracflamloci'm on a very restrictive firewall08:48
dracflamloci cant ftp08:48
HiddenWo1fdracflamloc: I don't think they're on the cd, no.08:48
HiddenWo1fdracflamloc, apt-get will work fine for you.08:48
HrdwrBoBHiddenWo1f: cdrecord -v -eject speed=24 dev=/dev/hdd file.iso08:48
geneo91dracflamloc:  its http08:48
HrdwrBoBthough if you right click in nautilus08:49
dracflamlocso unless its on the cd i pretty much have no chance of getting it08:49
HrdwrBoBand click burn08:49
HrdwrBoBit should be fine08:49
dracflamlocgeneo91,  oh ok08:49
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ohfuzzheadhello08:49
dracflamlocso does apt-get work on http?08:49
HiddenWo1fhrdwrbob: i went to reinstall, my hoary iso was fucked, so I installed warrty, but I can't get xfree to run, so I am in rescue mode about now08:49
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geneo91dracflamloc:  it will net you nvidia-glx nvidia kernel-headers08:50
dracflamlockernel-headers?08:50
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dracflamloci need the full source08:51
dracflamloci assume apt-get kernel-source?08:51
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topyliHiddenWo1f: sorry, went out for smokes. what's up?08:51
geneo91no08:51
kakaltocould someone please tell me why gnome won't load, after I just installed some new printer/scanner drivers (hpoj)?08:51
helio7what's the ftp put command for a whole dir?08:51
dracflamlocdo you recommend 5.04?08:52
geneo91yes08:52
randabisdracflamloc: linux-source08:52
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dracflamlocwow only one cd?08:53
andrewskidracflamloc: yeah, sweet, huh?  you can enable additional online repositories once you're installed.08:53
dracflamlocah, very cool08:53
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dracflamlocand apt-get uses http then?08:53
helio7in terminal ftp how do I put a directory?08:54
randabisyes, it is http08:54
dracflamlocawesome08:54
dracflamloc=D08:54
lewwyokay, i'm officially partial to Kubuntu now.  Damn those cool little fading in thingos when you put your mouse over a button08:54
dracflamlocsounds like it fits my needs perfectly08:54
andrewskilewwy: yeah, they're nice. :)08:54
randabislewwy: it rocks my socks08:54
dracflamlocwhats kubuntu08:54
helio7ubuntu+kde08:54
andrewskidracflamloc: that whole one-CD bit, but with kde instead of gnome.08:55
lewwyso, my brothers like "So what makes this so much better then windows" and then makes fun of me.  Anyone know any cool stuff i can download or show him to prove him wrong?08:55
andrewskilewwy: kde's a good start.08:55
geneo91lewwy:  bb08:55
Flonnelewwy, just disable your firewall for a few days.08:55
lewwyandrewski, I showed him the cool fading in thingos, did nothing08:55
lewwyflonne, dont have one man08:56
andrewskilewwy: run filelight on your music directory (if you have one); that's real slick.08:56
FlonneThen just show him all the spyware on his system, then comment on how *all* your software can be upgraded with a single click.08:56
dracflamlocandrewski, how do i get that?08:57
andrewskilewwy: or leave your system on for a week. :P08:57
geneo91bb is a cool cli app thats doing gfx with letters and has sound08:57
lewwyi can't really use windows xp cost factor as a arguing point.08:57
andrewskidracflamloc: it's in universe, i think.  a kde app.08:57
FlonneOr three years... (Yes, it's doable.)08:57
kakaltois gimpshop available in deb?08:57
andrewskiFlonne: i believe it. :)  but even a week would surprise most windows users. :D08:58
kakaltoI know it's available in rpm, but ubuntu doesn't support that08:58
kakaltodoes it08:58
lewwyhey guys, is there some sort of frontend for samba?08:58
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lewwyif its something like samba-GUI then i'll kick myself08:58
Flonnelewwy, the single most convincing argument I've been able to use is package management.08:58
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FlonneAnd the fact that you (usually) never have to go driver hunting.08:58
jdublewwy: for the server? swat08:58
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geneo91kakalto:  yes u can use alien to install rpms08:59
kakaltoohk08:59
kakaltothanks08:59
scotthow can I have ubuntu show an image while it boots up (instead of all the kernel output)?08:59
lewwyjdub, client man, I want to be able to see my brothers shares as a GUI08:59
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FlonneGone are those fifteen hours of searching for that soundcard driver some company in Taiwan didn't feel like including with their product.08:59
randabisheh08:59
jdublewwy: you can browse servers and shares in nautilus, just click places > network08:59
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andrewskiFlonne: that can backfire though, if the driver doesn't exist in linux but does in windows.  *cough wireless LAN cough*09:00
randabisscott: usplash, but it isn't released yet...only early betas are available for testing09:00
dracflamlocandrewski, i meant how do i get kubuntu09:00
ArniaApril Fools is a chore09:00
Arniahttp://planetkde.org09:01
Arniahttp://planet.gnome.org09:01
andrewskidracflamloc: oh. :)  #kubuntu, dunno the website.09:01
dracflamlocinteresting09:01
dracflamloci prefer gnome anyway, but i like to have both09:01
scottrandabis, is it safe to run?09:01
andrewskidracflamloc: oh, well, you can get kde in the apt repositories....09:02
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lewwyargh crap, synaptic wont start up.  I killed it using ctrl+x in terminal, then it kept alive, and then i made it crash.  how can i make it work again?09:02
lewwymade it crash via hitting X09:02
randabisscott: I have it running, no problems so far09:02
andrewskilewwy: run it again?09:03
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scottrandabis, where do I get it?09:03
Flonneandrewski, that's an unfortunate exception, and worth writing letters to the manufacturer over.09:03
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lewwyrandabis, omg dude ur a genius.  Lol, no im kidding.  it still wont startup09:03
andrewskiFlonne: yes, i did that.  *cough Linksys sucks cough*09:03
dracflamlocis it technically possible to install an rpm in ubuntu?09:04
lewwydracflamloc, yes, just use alien09:04
andrewskilewwy: hey genius, i don't think randabis responded to you.09:04
lewwydracflamloc, get it off synaptic09:04
andrewskidracflamloc: hope you're not doing that for kde... :P09:04
lewwyandrewski, lol ok sorry. My bad. Any other suggestions?09:04
holy_cowhey guys, if i have a multiuser system, and the users ofthe system want to have a shared area for storing and working on documents ... how would one set that up on linux?  ideally they cannot access each others files, just the files in the 'shared' area.  any ideas?09:04
andrewskilewwy: did you run it again?09:04
dracflamlocandrewski, nope09:05
lewwyandrewski, yes i did09:05
andrewskilewwy: and what's the error?09:05
dracflamloctheres an old piece of software i have that i wrote, but i lost everything but my old rpm =P09:05
scottholy_cow, I don't know, but ifolder.com might be useful09:06
lewwyandrewski, no error, it just runs, and dies.  No gui either09:06
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randabisscott: http://kalatlug.nanofreesoft.org/Projects/usplash/snapshots/09:06
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andrewskilewwy: run it in a terminal and paste any error it reports.09:06
lewwyandrewski, im running it in terminal, and getting no error09:07
lewwyhang on andrewski i'll restart09:07
andrewskilewwy: not yet09:07
lewwylol09:07
andrewskilewwy: try killall synaptic09:07
andrewskilewwy: and run it again.09:07
lewwyyep, just tried andrewski, still nothing09:08
holy_cowscott, thanks for that09:08
holy_cowlooks interesting09:08
andrewskilewwy: ok, dunno.09:08
lewwyandrewski, restart?>09:08
lewwysounds like a plan, brb09:08
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andrewskigood night all.09:12
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kakaltodoes anyone have a deb of gimpshop?09:15
MaRk-Idang finally09:15
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gunnmjki saw that gimpshop looks tight09:16
gunnmjkwhy didn't anybody do that before09:16
sonohello friends... this afternoon, I had a terrible problem I exposed here.  Different suggestions were given.  While processing som hi-res images at GIMP, I switched to evolution to quick send an email.  Suddenly my system began doing an infinite swapping... the HD never stop spinning and I lose the system response...09:16
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kakaltoprobably because it was under development :P09:16
kakaltoah-huh!09:17
kakaltoI found one09:17
Mestaphelesis this HAPPY APRIL FIRST! gdm background for real?09:17
sono...so I was tracking for memory leakage at any of my apps through "top" and other tools09:18
MaRk-Ican anyone help me why I cant connect with eth0 and router??09:18
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kakaltoMaRk-I: April Fools.09:19
MaRk-Ikakalto, sorry I'm on pacific time09:19
sonothe problem is: MY SWAP PART. REPORTS 0 total space... and it is perfectly mounted... that was done automaticly by Ubuntu...09:19
MaRk-Ikakalto, try in another hour or so09:19
lewwyhey guys, when i try to start synaptic in KDE, it says "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server09:20
lewwy" any suggestions?09:20
sonoMark-I : WArty or Hoary Mark?09:20
MaRk-Isono, warty09:20
MaRk-II barely install it about 4 days ago and until today finally got connection09:21
sonodid you ever achieved a network connection Mark-I ?09:21
kakaltoaww09:21
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MaRk-Isono, nope not with router09:21
MaRk-Iright now I have it directly to the dsl modem and eth009:21
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sonohave you got an IP Address? could you post  the ifconfig eth0 result?09:22
sonoof course, connected to the router09:22
lewwycan anyone suggest a course of action for synaptic seeings it is not working?09:22
MaRk-Isono, ok let me check09:22
sonook MaRk-I, then, check if your router has the DHCP turned on by the way09:23
geneo91lewwy:  try apt-get -f install09:23
lewwyMusic Player is such a ripoff of iTunes its almost sad09:23
lewwythx geneo9109:23
sonoare you able to access the router config from your computer? MaRk-I?09:23
lewwygeneo91, "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 327 not upgraded."09:24
Mestaphelesyeah but apple did not make iTunes, they bouht it09:24
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MaRk-Isono, yes I can09:24
geneo91lewwy:  now what do you want to do09:24
MaRk-Isono, http://pastebin.com/26556009:24
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MaRk-Ithats my ifconfig results with router09:24
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lewwygeneo91, i want to run synaptic09:25
MaRk-Ihow do I check for updates with apt-get??09:25
kakaltoIf I have the source code for something, how do I compile it?09:25
sonook MaRk-I, your router's connection and IP assignment looks pretty fine so...09:26
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lewwyman, who else here finds people that ask questions with more than one !/? annoying?09:26
MaRk-Isono I know but it just wont connect at all09:26
ellstritium: What is up Mike09:26
sonoMArk-I the problem there is lack of internet acces right?09:26
lewwygeneo91, any ideas?09:26
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tritiumells, hey, just running disk-diagnostics on my laptop09:26
tritiumand just got back from the game earlier09:27
ellstritium: I have beens so busy with graduation and everything09:27
kakaltoanyone?09:27
tritiumells, Congratulations!09:27
ellstritium: did you find out what was wrong09:27
ellstritium: thanks again09:27
MaRk-Isono, don't know what it is seriously I can ping sites, I can ping my router etc. but I just wont connect to anything i.e. internet or irc09:27
geneo91lewwy:  apt-get install synaptic09:27
tritiumells, not yet, but it's looking like the hardware is okay, so it's likely filesystem09:27
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ellstritium: that will work09:27
Mestapheleslewwy: "iTunes was developed from SoundJam MP, a popular commercial MP3 application distributed by the Macintosh software company Casady & Greene" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes09:28
netmonkkakalto, usualy there is a readme file with the source09:28
sonoMaRk-I: strange!  what about firewalls?09:28
kakaltoahk, thanks netmonk09:28
lewwyso... did apple actually make anything in OSX?09:28
MaRk-Isono, hhmmm not that I know of except the router09:28
bdalehoary-rc... why would the X server fail to initialize the nvidia GLX extension?09:28
lewwyor is it a compilation of thrown together GNU/Free software?09:28
MaRk-Isono, but with mdk I even log on wireless09:28
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Mestaphelesmybe just Aqua09:28
netmonkkakalto, usualy ./configure   make    make install09:29
kakaltois that all in one, or different commands?09:29
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sonook Mark-I, I had a similar problem with my ehternet card and the iptables package09:29
Mestaphelessince darwin is a ripoff of net abd fbsd.  And I got to say I am not imressed with darwin.  Have you ever tried to run released as per apple?09:29
MaRk-Isono and what did you do?09:29
sonoafter upgrading at warty, to the most recent version available to warty, I had no internet access09:30
sonoI removed the iptables package09:30
geneo91kakalto:  it 3 commands09:30
kakaltoahuman01, thanks09:30
kakaltoerr09:30
dracflamlocyay ubuntu is almost done downloadin09:30
sonounfortunately I couldn't recreate the fault, so my case was somehow useless for the community base.09:30
kakaltothat autocompleted09:30
kakaltogeneo91, thanks09:30
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DeadZedare there any deletable folders in linux .. to regain disk space09:30
dracflamloci hope this installs nicely next to my windows server 200309:31
lewwyhey guys, I want to remove the DRM from WMA. Is there any applications for linux that will remove this?09:31
geneo91DeadZed:  apt-get clean09:31
holy_cowhttp://labs.google.com/ridefinder09:31
FlonneDeadZed, "apt-get clean"09:31
dracflamloci know one way in windows is just playing the song and having winamp output the playback to a wav09:31
holy_cowclick on one of the taxi links09:31
lewwydracflamloc, takes too long09:31
DeadZedlewwy Ive heard that avisynth in win can be used for DRM09:31
holy_cowcheck out the shadow below the fucking popup09:31
kakaltogeneo91, is that ./configure <source file> ?09:31
holy_cowholy mother of god09:31
holy_cowheh09:31
DeadZedThanks09:31
geneo91kakalto:  cd into the dir file is in09:32
MaRk-Isono09:32
Mestaphelesguys, should I be concerned that I found two dirs in my ~ that I did not create after upgrading?09:32
kakaltothen ./configure <file>, right?09:32
sonoyes Mark-I09:32
MaRk-Ithis are pings I did to google with router09:32
Mestaphelesthey are empty09:32
MaRk-Imark@mark:~ $ sudo ping www.google.com09:32
MaRk-IPING www.l.google.com (64.233.167.147) 56(84) bytes of data.09:32
MaRk-I64 bytes from 64.233.167.147: icmp_seq=1 ttl=246 time=86.4 ms09:32
MaRk-I64 bytes from 64.233.167.147: icmp_seq=2 ttl=246 time=86.2 ms09:32
DeadZedheh .. apt-get clean gave me 200 MB :)09:32
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scottanyone use rhythmbox? I can't get it to edit the id3 tags of my files. they are -rwxr--r--09:32
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kzmHi all09:33
sonoMark-I: well those pings are pretty normal09:33
Dreamer3are there any tips out there on remastering the Ubuntu live ISO?09:33
MaRk-Isono, see so how come I cant connect ??09:34
sonoMaRk-I can you access with the w3c browser?09:34
MaRk-Ithe card just sits there sending and receiving .5kbs09:34
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MaRk-Isono, sorry don't understand the w3c part09:35
geneo91MaRk-I:  what is the mtu set at09:35
MaRk-I150009:35
geneo91change it to 152409:35
MaRk-I BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:109:35
MaRk-Igeneo91, I'm a newbie how do I do that?09:36
lewwycrap, how can i force apt-get to release the lock?09:36
kzmHmm....Hoary is in flux, I see (21 new since yesterday)09:36
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geneo91ifconfig mtu 1524 (dev)09:36
kzmAnybody else have problems running gnome-session?09:36
kzm(Or know what could be wrong?)09:36
MaRk-Igeneo91, ifconfig eth0 mtu 1524???09:37
geneo91kzm:  what it doing09:37
sonoyes MaRk-I09:37
MaRk-Ior just the way you wrote it?09:37
siimohi anyone have problems with latest nautilus in hoary?? the desktop doesnt REFRESH automatically anymore, gotta hit CTRL+R to see files saved on desktop09:37
kzmJust displaying the new splash, and hanging.09:37
MaRk-Ithanks09:37
Myrttisiimo: same problem09:38
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kzmstrace says it's doing a poll(), I suspect it is waiting for gconfd or something like that.09:38
Myrttithanks for the hint on how to bypass the prob09:38
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sonosame problem siimo... but I just downloaded new updates right now...09:38
siimoMyrtti, it seems theres another update to nautilus again, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade  try if its fixed, im doing it too09:38
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geneo91kzm:  explain what you have done so far after install09:39
siimosono, i had downloaded updates last night09:39
Myrttisiimo: I'll try that at home today09:39
siimothere seem more again09:39
kzmNothing much.  I've s/warty/hoary in sources.list and dist-upgraded09:39
sonosiimo right siimo, I did it too, but new updates are available some hours ago09:39
sonos/are/were09:39
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lewwyso, anyone know any cool apps that i can wow my brother with?09:39
lewwyhe seems to not like linux atm09:39
kzmI'm using an .xsession, containing gnome-session as (basically) the only command.09:40
sonosiimo: specially for nautilus09:40
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Myrttilewwy: games09:40
MaRk-Ineither one works09:40
geneo91kzm:  you still have warty in list09:40
MaRk-Imark@mark:~ $ sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 152409:40
MaRk-ISIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument09:40
lewwyMyrtti, suggest some plz09:40
Myrttilewwy: scribus, sodipodi, gimp09:40
kzmlist?09:40
siimosono, dpkg -l | grep nautilus09:40
Myrttilewwy: tuxracer for one09:40
siimosono, could you please post exact version you have09:40
geneo91repositories list09:40
MaRk-Imark@mark:~ $ sudo ifconfig mtu 1524 eth009:40
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MaRk-ISIOCSIFADDR: No such device09:40
MaRk-Imtu: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device09:40
MaRk-Ieth0: Unknown host09:40
Myrttithose others were just good applications09:40
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kzmNo.  Well, the CD-ROM.  But it's not available.09:41
siimosono, i just got nautilus_2.10.0-0ubuntu8_i386.deb09:41
sonothats mine as well09:41
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dan_thello09:42
geneo91kzm /etc/apt/sources.list09:42
dan_ti'm just installed ubunto hoary on my ibook but i'm unable to make suspend to work09:42
kzmgeneo91: no warty there.  'least not now -- I removed the CDROM for good measure.09:42
dan_tthere is any known issue ?09:42
sonoIll restart now, important files were  updated too, and I will tell you about it siimo.09:43
siimosono, it was fine 2 days ago09:43
gunnmjkdan t, i would like to talk to you ;)09:43
siimosono, ok09:43
geneo91kzm thats a problem then09:43
MaRk-Ihow do I check for upgrades with apt-get??09:43
MaRk-Ior updates09:43
geneo91MaRk-I:  apt-get update09:44
kakalto ./configure: command not found09:44
kakaltoahh09:44
kakaltonever mind09:44
kzmwhat is?09:44
kakalto(me silly)09:44
lewwykakalto, i think ur silly09:44
Dreamer3man they keep updating hoary :)09:44
MaRk-Igeneo91, so if it doesn't d/l anything there's no updates to d/l?09:44
Dreamer3can't wait until release!09:44
kakaltowhat's tbz?09:45
siimoMyrtti, fixed for me :D09:45
kakaltofile format09:45
kakaltolike, what opens it?09:45
geneo91kzm:  if you have started updaying to hoary and still have warty in list09:45
lewwyhoary updates....300mb.... :|09:45
kzmBtw -- and this  h a s  to be a FAQ -- how do I get mplayer with a reasonable set of codecs?09:45
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kakaltokzm, sudo apt-get install w32codecs09:45
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holycowdoes anyone know how to setup setings for printers under cups?  the web gui requires a pass but i can't find one, and an error message says that it has been disabled.  i need to send a printjob to a specific tray.  anyone run into something like this?09:45
kakaltosomething like that09:46
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kzmE: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate09:46
Dreamer3are there any tips out there on remastering the Ubuntu live ISO?09:46
kakaltomaybe it's w32codec09:46
Myrttisiimo: good to know09:46
kakaltoI can't remember09:46
dracflamlocwell here goes nothin09:46
dracflamlocubuntu cd booted09:46
tritiumkzm, it's on ftp.nerim.net09:46
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dracflamlocgod its amost 3am09:47
kzmright -- I tried it under warty, but couldn't get it to work.  If it does on hoary, I'll give it a whirl.09:47
MaRk-Iman this is frustrating09:47
MaRk-Ihhmmm09:47
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sonosiimo: I just rebooted and found the problem is solved with the last upgrade09:47
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lewwywhat the heck does this mean "synaptic: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 but it is not installable".  That package isnt availible anywhere...09:47
siimosono, yep09:47
kakaltodracflamloc, april fools, I set your clock forward :P09:47
kzmtritium: this one? deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main09:47
tritiumkzm, unstable main09:47
siimosono, didnt have to reboot. just open a term and 'killall nautilus' :D09:47
dracflamlocwtfbomb!09:48
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sonosiimo: well, that's for nautilus, but as I said, there were core components upgraded too09:48
MaRk-Iwireless broadcom chipsets are not supported are they??09:48
kzmtritium - hehe, coming from Debian, I'm a bit worried about unstable.  But who wants (his computer) to live forever?09:48
dracflamlocMaRk-I, if they were i'd wet myself. so if you get one workig let me know09:48
sonosiimo: I am still annoyed by the latest ubuntu-nautilus policy of closing previous window09:49
nugethere's lot of talk of people that have wireless broadcomm working09:49
MaRk-Idracflamloc, only with mdk and ndiswrapper I did09:49
nugehave you checked the forums.. ?09:49
sonosiimo: that's happening after yesterday's upgrade09:49
nugendiswrapper + the windows driver is all you need09:49
brainZzZheh all you need is a trailer now09:49
dracflamlochm09:49
MaRk-Idracflamloc, linksys dwmp54gs09:49
lewwyanyone suggest any good reasons to upgrade horay? (via apt-get)09:50
dracflamloc?09:50
lewwyhoary*09:50
MaRk-Iconnected at 125Mbs (or so thats what kwifi says)09:50
dracflamlochm09:50
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dracflamlocweird09:50
corzaLoL anyone about Google's NEW Google Gulp ?? http://www.google.com.au/googlegulp/09:51
geneo91lewwy:  how else you going to update09:51
corzaits very interesting in the fact that its an april fools prank09:51
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dracflamlocoh09:52
lewwygeneo91, I could update manually via cvs...09:52
dracflamloccan ubuntu by default mount ntfs drives as readonly09:52
MaRk-II might work on this one for wireless but I need to resolve my router problem first09:52
geneo91lewwy:  go for then09:53
lewwygeneo91, thats the thing...391mbs worth of update.  I'm looking for a REASON to update09:53
geneo91wait a few more days and it will be more09:54
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geneo91lewwy:  they are debugging it now09:54
Mestaphelesis getting a notice to install a plugin, selecting it to install, and comming back to the page a sign that there is no ppc plugin?09:55
Mestaphelesfirefox09:55
geneo91Mestapheles:  that just dont work09:55
geneo91use apt-get or synaptic to install plugins09:56
Mestaphelesshould install into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins right?09:56
geneo91yes if u use the right thing09:57
turfgeneo91: where could i get flash player for ppc architecture? for my mozilla borser?09:57
Mestaphelesif it were to install with the plugin notice, I believe anyway09:58
scottanyone use rhythmbox? I can't get it to edit the id3 tags of my files. they are -rwxr--r--09:58
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MaRk-II still couldn't change the MTU09:58
MestaphelesI don't think there is a lfash for ppc09:58
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cvdhi all, how do i get Xchat to play a sound when a user sends me a new private message, initiating a conversation?09:58
MestaphelesI could never get rhythmbox to recognize a change in file name I'd made.  I didn't try hard though09:59
Mestaphelescvd: preferences09:59
cvdMestapheles, which sound preference? there are hundreds of options09:59
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MaRk-Icvd settings/preferences/general check beep on pvt msgs10:00
cvdMaRk-I, k thanks. is there a way to distinguish between a pvt msg that opens a new tab, and another pvt msg in an existing tab?10:00
Mestapheleschantting/general/Alerts/beep on ...10:00
MaRk-Icvd not really10:00
cvdok10:00
cvdthanks guys10:01
MaRk-Ithey all beep the same :P10:01
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MaRk-Icvd unless you install the tcl scripts on the xchat page10:01
MaRk-Iplays a diff sound on first msg10:01
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A-z-i-zdoes Hoary have gnome 2.10 ?10:02
geneo91yes10:02
Sunghi10:02
brainZzZand yes broadband is availible, even for cheep10:02
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A-z-i-zis it the stable version ?10:02
Sungcan someone help me with ubuntu installation ?10:02
geneo91yes10:03
Sungactually i am done installing it.10:03
Mestapheles?10:03
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bob2`Sung: it's way easier if you just ask your specific question right up10:03
Sungbut when i reboot it the comp and start running it, it never gets pass checking or loading grub something or another.10:03
Mestaphelesso what's the prob?10:03
lewwyhey guys, should i feel more secure when i put my credit card details in paypal under linux? (compared to windows)10:03
bob2`lewwy: less chance of spyware stealing it10:03
bob2`lewwy: but the same chance of paypal ripping you off10:03
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Mestapheleslol10:04
Sungi am using a LIVE CD atm.10:04
Sungbut it just automatically reboots the comp.10:04
Sungover and over again.10:04
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bob2`Sung: did you install windows or sometihng?10:04
lewwywhy does every1 always diss paypal10:04
bob2`Sung: or install a new kernel?10:04
MestaphelesI'v never used the live to install from, try installing from reg cd10:04
Sungwindows was already installed.10:04
bob2`lewwy: because they have a bad history with being honest10:04
MaRk-ISung, press F1 for help or F3 for diff booting options10:04
Sungno i used the real one.10:04
bob2`lewwy: I'm sure on the whole they're great, but there are examples of them being completely useless10:05
MestaphelesSung: windows should have nothing to do with it10:05
bob2`Sung: did you do anything after the install finished?10:05
Sungi used the i386 install version.10:05
cvdMaRk-I, which script has the useful functionality?10:05
bob2`Mestapheles: unless windows killed grub10:05
Sungno except take the CD out.10:05
scizzoA-z-i-z: hoary is not marked stable yet...10:05
Mestaphelesa windows update might mess up the bootloader but that's it asik10:05
Sungbut after it failed i tryed to to switch book sectors on the patitioner10:05
scizzoA-z-i-z: it is going to be in April sometime10:05
Mestaphelesafaik10:05
geneo91Sung:  can you mount your linux ext3 partition with live cd10:05
bob2`Sung: you mean "mark a partition as bootable"?  linux doesn't care about that.10:06
Sungi dunno .10:06
Sungoh10:06
Sunghehe10:06
MaRk-Icvd, hhmm there's several but some are included already you just have to put them in the ~/.xchat folder to load automatically10:06
FlimFlamMandoes the live cd boot on dual-proc systems?  i tried it on a dual-athlon system, and a friend tried it on a dual ppc system - both failed.  it worked on a single-cpu intel box though10:06
cvdMaRk-I, thanks10:06
geneo91FlimFlamMan:  yes10:07
Sungi am running the live CD on a single processor sys.10:07
MaRk-Icvd np I'd give you the names but just installed ubuntu and really havent done so in this xchat10:07
holycowanyone have hoary insist on printing to a4 regardless of settings?10:07
bob2`FlimFlamMan: it should work fine10:07
FlimFlamMangeneo91, have you used it on dual-proc system?10:07
Mestapheleshas anyone noticed emplty dirs in ~ after updates or dist-upgrades?10:07
FlimFlamManok...10:07
geneo91yes this one here10:07
bob2`FlimFlamMan: it has the same kernel as the install cd10:07
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bob2`Mestapheles: nothing should touch anything in ~/10:08
holycowi think i haveto change this in the locale ... not to google that10:08
Sunghmmmm.10:08
FlimFlamManactually come to think of it when i tried it on mine i got a coffee-colored background and mouse pointer but no login dialog10:08
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brainZzZthings that make you go hmmmm....10:08
Sunghow do i mount the linux ext3 partition ?10:08
FlimFlamManor desktop10:08
bob2`FlimFlamMan: might be an X problem, or a corrupt cd10:08
FlimFlamMancd is ok - worked on another sys10:08
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Mestaphelesbob2: well I have two funny empty folder under /home/USER10:09
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bob2`Mestapheles: called?10:09
Sungso anyone have any advice on what i can do ?10:09
roelMestapheles: so you keep saying, which ones?10:09
Mestaphelesone named 'P' and another "ync"10:09
lunitikhaha @ www.planetkde.org and planet.gnome.org10:09
roelwho owns them?10:09
roelsounds like you typoed or so10:10
Mestaphelessays I do, and there are no other users registered as user either10:10
siimohi how do i use UTF8 ?10:11
Sungshould i just reinstall ubunta ?10:11
siimoor change my encoding to that ?10:11
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MestaphelesI know some utils can be replaced with hacked ones so as to cover trails but can Admin/Users and Groups be hacked fairl easily?10:12
lewwyanyone want to explain why when i try to install synaptic (i uninstalled it) i get an error saying " synaptic: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 but it is not installable"  I have tried installing the package to do with this, but its older then the one i've got installed.  suggestions?10:12
geneo91well its bed time here10:13
geneo91nite all10:13
bob2`lewwy: on hoary?10:13
brainZzZwhat does a glock have to do with this, exactly?10:13
lewwybob2, yeh, on hoary10:13
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bob2`try updating10:13
dracflamlocum10:14
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bob2`I'd be very very surprised if synaptic was uninstallable atm10:14
dracflamlocwoh10:14
dracflamlocmy laptop touchpad isnt working at the login screen of ubuntu10:14
lewwyi have like trillians of repositries, this may take a while10:14
bob2`subterrific: you could just try reinstalling, maybe your disk got corrupted in some weird way10:14
bob2`lewwy: why?10:14
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brainZzZit will take a while before you are all the way well and you can relapse if you don't take care10:14
bob2`what's not in hoary?10:14
dracflamlocoh here we go10:14
bob2`brainZzZ: please try to stay on topic10:14
brainZzZtry to stay on topic10:14
holycowanyone know which dpkg-reconfigure command lets one changed the default page size?10:15
lewwybob2, just did what wiki told me10:15
bob2`lewwy: no wiki page tells you to add lots of random untrusted and untested lines to your sources.list10:15
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lewwybob2, actually theres not millions, and i only did what wiki told me to do10:16
bob2`lewwy: *what* wiki?10:16
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lewwybob2, sides, security = not a big issue10:16
dracflamlocum10:16
dracflamlocwhats the default root password for ubuntu10:17
lewwybob2, bugger now i have to find it, hope ur happy10:17
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bob2`dracflamloc: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:17
bob2`lewwy: I want to correct such misinformation10:17
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siimoLOL nice april fools login screen on hoary10:17
lewwygo ahead bob210:17
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bob2`oh lordy10:18
lewwybob2, op me!10:18
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bob2`lewwy: I will fix it when you give me the url ...10:19
lewwycrap, wheres the sources directory?10:19
bob2`directory?  or the sources.list file?10:19
MaRk-Ilol10:19
lewwywhere would have dpkg-source: extracting synaptic in synaptic-0.55+cvs20050330 gone too?10:19
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bob2`lewwy: the directory you're in10:20
bob2`lewwy: why are you rebuilding synaptic?10:20
lewwyi dont think thats any of your business bob2`10:20
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MaRk-Idang10:21
bob2`just wondering if there was a reason or not10:21
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lewwylol10:21
scottis it true that neither muine or rhytmbox can edit id3 tags?10:21
lewwybob2`,  theres sorta a reason10:21
lewwybob2`, im hoping it'll fix me apt problems10:21
bob2`lewwy: it won't10:21
bob2`unless you magically got a version of synaptic no one else has10:22
bob2`which is unlikely10:22
lewwyi mean, synaptic problems10:22
dracflamlocwhats the best way to make sure that the nvidia-drivers are installed correctl10:22
dracflamlocy10:22
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bob2`dracflamloc: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:22
lewwydracflamloc, go type glxgears and make sure the fps is over 100010:22
bob2`reading that10:22
Flonnedracflamloc, glxinfo | grep render10:22
MaRk-Iis it safe if I install a dif kernel?? I have 2.6.8.1-3-386, want to know if k7 would be better for AMD cup10:22
MaRk-Icpu*10:22
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bob2`MaRk-I: dpeneds which amd cpu10:23
MaRk-Iathlon 850Mhz10:23
lewwyman....i wish i was using linux in 1993 instead of windows...10:23
lewwyoh wait *stupid*10:23
lewwymore like 199610:23
bob2`khwarizmi: it might give some speed boost10:23
Flonnelewwy, Linux 1.0 was... well...10:23
bob2`linux was usable in 199310:23
lewwydodgy?10:23
FlonneBarely.10:24
lewwyyeh, but with all my leet knowledge (because i would have been able to pick things up) i woulda owned at linux today10:24
FlonneOf course, I didn't start playing with it 'til '97.10:24
lewwybut no, here i am getting confused on why the hell synaptic wont run/install10:24
lewwyi couldve been a guru!10:24
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FlonneAnd I didn't take it seriously until 2.2 was out...10:24
lewwydamn you bill gates10:24
MaRk-Ibob2`sorry AMD athlon 850Mhz10:25
dracflamlocuhoh10:25
dracflamloci restatred X and my screen is just garbled10:25
MaRk-Ibrb10:26
bob2`MaRk-I: it might give some small speed boost10:26
bob2`lewwy: why did you uninstall it to begin with?10:26
bob2`dracflamloc: using the proprietary nvidia drivers?10:26
dracflamlocyes10:26
lewwybob2, because it stopped working10:26
dracflamloci'm running a laptop with geforce mx 440, and 1600x1050 screen res10:27
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lewwybob2`, im still in the habit of windows (something doesnt work, reinstall)10:27
bob2`lewwy: "stopped working"?10:27
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bob2`lewwy: you need to get out of that habit10:27
bob2`dracflamloc: might have to reboot then10:27
lewwybob2`, it died, its really that simple10:27
Flonnelewwy, config files dictate everything in this world.10:27
bob2`lewwy: "died" is not a useful description10:27
bob2`lewwy: did it segfault?  fail to run due to missing libraries? etc.10:27
dracflamlocbob2`,i rebooted and the screen is still garbled10:27
bob2`dracflamloc: hah, yay nvidia10:28
dracflamlocit worked fine when i was using nv10:28
UBabei managed to install the Java SDK to get jTunes to run, now the hardest part i have to do is get a launcher to open the .jar file! :P10:28
lewwybob2`, ok, heres what happened. I used to run synaptic, and *blug* just *didnt* work.  No errors in terminal, nothing10:28
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freethello guys10:28
freetgot this question10:28
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UBabehow can i add a .jar file to the file launcher and get it to be run by java??10:28
bob2`lewwy: you mean, you'd run "sudo synaptic" from a terminal, and no window would popup at all?10:28
Flonnedracflamloc, can you describe how it's "garbled"?10:28
bob2`UBabe: how do you run it from the terminal?10:28
lewwybob2`, then i rebooted (twice) and i finally got some error saying that it needed an outdated version of apt to work.  So i try to install the outdated one, screws up the dependencies, so i have to reinstall the new one10:28
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freeti started dist-upgrade to hoary this morning, in a gnome terminal, but now x crashed, and i cant answer to the question it asks10:29
lewwybob2`, no error no nothing.  its weird i know....10:29
UBabebob! thats the thing! I dont run it in terminal! Ive just double clicked it in Gnome, then it asks what application do you want ti to run with?10:29
bob2`lewwy: er10:29
Dreamer3what filesystem does ubuntu use for it's livecds?10:29
freetdoes anyone know if its possible to redirect it to a konsole?10:29
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bob2`lewwy: that's still not a useful explanation.  "got some error saying that it needed an outdated version of apt to work", you'd need to tell us the exact error, and where you saw it, and how you got it10:29
lewwyok soz bob210:30
freeti started dist-upgrade to hoary this morning, in a gnome terminal, but now x crashed, and i cant answer to the question it asks10:30
bob2`freet: if X crashed, apt is probably gone too10:30
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bob2`lewwy: so, where did you see it?10:30
freetbob2`: nope10:30
bob2`Dreamer3: some variation on cloop, aiui10:30
freetbob2`: its still in my ps aux10:30
jacques_merdehey, i like the MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowto page on the ubuntu documentation, but is there an equivalent guide somewhere for if you have a usb midi controller?10:30
lewwyso bob2` heres the error that apt gives me "  synaptic: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 but it is not installable"10:30
bob2`freet: hah, weird10:30
UBabei find java in my opt directory and choose it to run jTunes10:30
bob2`lewwy: yes, I know.  tell me the error you got before you decided to remove it10:30
bob2`UBabe: does "java /path/to/jarfile.jar" work i na terminal?10:31
freetbob2`: and i can see it running in terminal, i mean, the things i opened in gnome are still visible, but i cant do anything with em10:31
lewwyuhhh *blushes*10:31
gabaugI've got great signal strength with a Linksys Wireless-G PCI adaptor on Hoary, but I can't get it to get an address from the 802.11b ap's dhcp server...any common reasons?10:31
bob2`freet: well, unless you ran it in screen, you'll have to kill it10:31
lewwybob2, konsole was closed since then, any ideas on where logs are kept?10:31
freetbob2`: dam10:31
bob2`freet: if it got up to asking questions, you might need to run "dpkg --configure -a" before re-running apt10:31
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bob2`lewwy: logs on what?10:31
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freetbob2`: is it bad for the future?10:31
lewwybob2`, logs on kernel10:31
freetbob2`: k10:31
bob2`lewwy: you still haven't said WHAT printed this mysterious error about needing an "old version of apt to work"10:31
bob2`lewwy: the kernel did not ever say anything about apt or synaptic, trust me10:32
bob2`freet: nah, it'll be fine10:32
bob2`freet: screen is handy in future, tho :-)10:32
freetbob2`: yeah i know :d10:32
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dracflamlocgo figure10:32
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lewwybob2`, it should be in google cache, checking10:32
FlonneDid you figure it out, dracflamloc?10:32
dracflamlocno10:32
dracflamloc=(10:32
FlonneCan you describe how it's "garbled"?10:33
lewwythats right, libapt somethingrather.  I looked it up on google, and it came with an outdated version of apt bob2`10:33
dracflamlocummmmm10:33
bob2`lewwy: lord10:33
bob2`lewwy: no10:33
dracflamlocFlonne, yes, its just a mess of white and weird colors all over10:33
dracflamloclooks a new age "artwork"10:33
UBabebob: this is the wierd thing...10:33
lewwybob2`, i know i cant describe crap10:33
dracflamlocvery hippy-ish10:33
bob2`lewwy: it's impossible to help when all we have to go on is your vague (And confused) rememberings of the problem10:33
UBabebob: i get this error message:10:33
bob2`lewwy: run "sudo apt-get update" now10:33
FlonneMind a PM, dracflamloc?10:33
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UBabebob: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: /home/joebaez/Applications/ileechitunes45/iLeech.jar10:33
UBabe   at kaffe.lang.AppClassLoader.findClass (AppClassLoader.java:294)10:33
UBabe   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass (ClassLoader.java:143)10:33
freetbob2`: thx :)10:34
LittleWashuUbuntu Forver!10:34
jacques_merdehey, i like the MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowto page on the ubuntu documentation, but is there an equivalent guide somewhere for if you have a usb midi controller?10:34
UBabedamn given away my name! *blush!*10:34
lewwySuSE forever!10:34
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bob2`lewwy: and then paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood10:34
cvdwhere can i find esdplay on ubuntu?10:34
UBabeHubsh froleines forever! :D10:34
cowbudUBabe: try a whois on yourself ;)10:34
MaRk-Ihow do I do fuzzy search on apt-get??10:34
UBabeheheh10:34
dracflamlocFlonne, sure PMs are fine10:34
bob2`cvd: hoary or warty?10:34
bob2`MaRk-I: you can't10:35
masabbatcvd: should be in esdtools10:35
UBabeyyeah theres my name :P10:35
cvdhoary10:35
cowbud;)10:35
lewwyok bob2` from my recreation of the problem, it needed something that was in apt_0.5.28.6_i386.deb.  it was definitely libapt something10:35
cowbudUBabe: chfn is your friend..10:35
bob2`lewwy: no, you're confused again10:35
UBabechfn???10:35
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bob2`lewwy: or covering up what you did before or something10:35
MaRk-Ibob2` thanks so how do I search for pkgs??10:35
rdw200169after you compile you're own kernel... how do you set up grub to boot it?10:35
bob2`lewwy: *why* did you remove synaptic?  what error did you have then?10:35
lewwybob2`, i ran the kynaptic10:35
bob2`MaRk-I: apt-cache search blah bleh10:35
PoisynLylacok having install problems... lol anyone willing to help a  *nix noob?10:35
cvdmasabbat: there's no esdtools package10:36
MaRk-Ibob2` thanks again10:36
bob2`PoisynLylac: best to just ask your question10:36
lewwyi got the error, and then i uninstalled it, and reinstalled it, closed konsole, (browsed internet) opened konsole, get this error now10:36
bob2`MaRk-I: no problem10:36
bob2`lewwy: "the error" is not useful10:36
UBabechfn -f Ubuntu babe10:36
UBabeoops...10:36
PoisynLylacwell during install it goes to detect the CDROM and says none found and asks about modules10:36
PoisynLylacand i can't find one that works10:36
cowbudUBabe: yah changes your user info that Info name in the whois is taken by your chat client from linux user info10:36
lewwybob2`, ffs i know its not useful but i'll be damned if konsole doesnt keep logs10:36
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LittleWashuFrom this mement you and ubunto are inexsplicitly bound, ubuntu user and user of ubuntu10:36
bob2`cvd: esound-clients, afaict10:36
bob2`lewwy: no terminal is going to log every single thing it ever prints10:37
lewwyuhhh what? whats that sposed to mean LittleWashu ?10:37
bob2`lewwy: now paste your sources.list to #flood10:37
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bob2`UBabe: chfn changes the "real name" data stored with your account on your computer10:37
lewwyk10:37
freetwaah10:38
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freetbob2`: getting this error10:38
masabbatcvd: esound-clients10:38
PoisynLylacso is there anyway to find a driver for my cdrom or a possible work around given i have no floppy drive lol10:38
masabbatsorry10:38
holycowanyone know how paper size is controlled in ubuntu?  /etc/papersize does nothing, and configuring cups via gnome gui does nothing ... any tips?10:38
UBabebob2: well no matter any idea why i can run a .jar file in Gnome and not in terminal?10:38
bob2`UBabe: I don't, sorry10:38
lewwyLittleWashu, whats that about?10:38
bob2`holycow: it's probably per-app10:38
UBabebob: hrm, this might help us10:38
cvdmasabbat, bob2 is that in main or universe?10:38
bob2`cvd: universe10:39
masabbatuniverse AFAIK10:39
holycowbob2 oh ouch, even test pages?10:39
UBabebob:you know the Run Application section under applications?10:39
cowbudholycow: go to the website of cups daemon10:39
bob2`holycow: no, that'd be cups itself10:39
holycow*hmmmm* k10:39
bob2`UBabe: yes10:39
cowbudholycow: i.e. localhost:63110:39
holycowoh thats disabled on ubunty10:39
holycowyou can't admin anything via that10:39
holycowy=u10:40
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cowbudholycow: uhh yes you can go there then click on manage printers then go to configure printer the paper size is right there10:40
cowbuduhh it is disabled in ubuntu?10:40
cowbudhuh well enable it :)10:40
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holycowwhat? how? :)10:41
Dreamer3how i canonical supposed to make money again?10:41
cowbudholycow: look in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf10:41
holycowi would need root pass and there is no root on ubuntu?10:41
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bob2`lewwy: jesus christ10:41
bob2`lewwy: don't add more crap10:41
bob2`lewwy: and get rid of the stupid backports line right now10:41
lewwybob2`, lol im kidding10:41
cowbudholycow: hrmm well you'll just have to be clever :)10:42
bob2`lewwy: dro pthat, run apt-get update10:42
bob2`then try reinstalling synaptic10:42
holycowcowbud, heh :) smartass10:42
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lewwybob2`, what are backports?10:42
UBabebob2: well theres a section that says Run with file10:42
bob2`lewwy: the ubuntu-bp line10:42
bob2`lewwy: they're poorly made packages from hoary rebuilt pon warty10:42
bob2`er, the packages are fine to begin with10:43
cowbudholycow: setup a root passwd and see if it works..mine does10:43
lewwybob2`, my system cant find dro10:43
UBabebob2: i managed to get the .jar file to run here without any problems once I found the directory where the .jar file was10:43
bob2`lewwy: I don't know what "dro" is10:44
lewwybob2` lewwy: dro pthat, run apt-get update10:44
bob2`lewwy: drop10:44
UBabebab2: theres probably just some extra suffix i need to add to the terminal command, im just dont know what it is10:44
bob2`ie delete the ubuntu-bp lines10:44
lewwyoh ok10:44
drbombay43yellow ,can anyone give me the syntax for a US debian repository that I can add to my sources.list,Please10:44
deFryskand comment the cdrom line i would think10:45
bob2`drbombay43: don't add debian lines on your ubuntu system10:45
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UBabeanyone know how to add a document to the Applictions menu?10:45
lewwybob2`, thx backports removal fixed the prob10:45
zerokarmaleftanybody have good experiences with running f-spot 0.0.12 on hoary?10:45
Dreamer3hmmmm10:45
Dreamer3why does irssi depend on glib10:46
lewwybob2`, if backports are screwy, why are they made?10:46
deFryskdrbombay43, use multiverse universe10:46
bob2`lewwy: because some people are silly10:46
holycowcowbud thats interesting10:46
lewwybob2`, but what do they actually do?10:46
bob2`lewwy: please find the wiki page that suggested you use them so I can fix it10:46
cowbudholycow: work out for ya?10:46
lewwyDEAR GOD10:46
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bob2`Dreamer3: it uses glib10:46
lewwybob2`, #flood now, i've got the original error that synaptic gave me10:46
bob2`lewwy: they're hoary versions of packages recompiled to work on warty10:46
Dreamer3bob2`: evidentally :)10:46
drbombay43bob2; thank you, deFrysk; good looking10:46
Dreamer3bob2`: guess i can't disable that10:47
bob2`Dreamer3: why would you want to?10:47
Dreamer3bob2`: building a customized SMALL irssi10:47
holycowcowbud, i found a weird quirk, i've been trying to print test pages via gnome cups manager ... that only sends out a4, yet, i can print from other apps to 8.5x11 but not legal10:47
bob2`lewwy: bah10:47
holycowthat is beyond weird10:47
Dreamer3bob2`: ripping out perl support, for example10:47
bob2`lewwy: stop letting morons advise you on anything10:47
bob2`lewwy: don't run it as root10:47
bob2`lewwy: sudo synaptic10:47
lunitikbob2`: ;)10:47
lunitikbob2`: ;) http://www.ubuntulinux.org/search?SearchableText=Backports10:48
lewwywtf10:48
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lewwyare you serious10:48
lewwythat fixed my problem10:48
bob2`yes10:48
deFryskbob2, /j #morons10:48
cowbudholycow: btw wtf are you smoking even in gnome-cups-manager I can change the paper..10:48
bob2`of course it does10:48
lewwyhooray for fuzzy logic : |10:48
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bob2`lewwy: no, it's not fuzzy logic, it makes perfect sense10:48
cowbudhorray for tequila10:48
lewwybob2`, explain it then10:48
holycowcowbud, i can change it to whatever i want10:48
holycowit only sends a4 to the printer10:48
cowbudholycow: through what program?10:48
bob2`lewwy: huh?10:48
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bob2`lewwy: X is running as your normal user.  then you try to run saomething as a different user.  X says "piss off".10:49
lewwybob2`, if sudo runs it as root anyway, whats the difference su'ing into root and rnning it anyway10:49
lewwyoh ok i get it now10:49
bob2`lewwy: do you want random other users being able to do stuff on your screen?>10:49
holycowgnome cups manager only sends a4 to the printer, regardless of settings10:49
cowbudholycow: hrmm...odd10:49
lewwybob2`, i doubt that x server would actually say "piss off"10:49
bob2`sudo works around it by setting XAUTHORITY or something10:49
Dreamer3bob2`: the more i get used to sudo the more i like it10:49
bob2`lewwy: it does10:49
holycowcowbud, *nod* i frankly can't believe it either10:50
bob2`lewwy: that's what "connection refused" means10:50
lewwybob2`, kthx bob10:50
Dreamer3bob2`: i'm still thinking of the need to create an admin type user with a known password though, cause i ever forget mine, then i'd be (temporarliy) hosed10:50
cowbudholycow: did you check for bugs?10:50
lunitikbob2`: haha10:50
cowbudi.e. google ;)10:50
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bob2`Dreamer3: well, if you forget one, I'd think you'd forget both ;)10:50
bob2`lewwy: please find the wiki page so I can fix it10:50
Dreamer3bob2`: perhaps :)10:51
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bob2`lewwy: bah10:51
lewwybob2`, i'm not even sure it was on a wiki, i think it was on a forum10:51
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bob2`lewwy: you were reading the stupid BreakMyUbuntu page, weren't you?10:51
Dreamer3bob2`: maybe ubuntu needs a "what's your birthday and what's your grandmother's favoriate cousin's maiden name?" remember my password feature ;-)10:51
bob2`lewwy: there you go, it's best to ignore everythings on the forums10:51
bob2`Dreamer3: hehehe10:51
lewwyso....just use wiki and this IRC10:51
lewwyseems simple enuff10:51
bob2`and the list10:51
lewwyand the *list*10:51
lewwywhat list?10:51
bob2`or the forums if you're sure of what the person is saying10:51
bob2`the mailing list, on http://lists.ubuntu.com/10:52
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lewwyoh yeh ,im signed up to that10:52
lewwybob2`, are you like, one of the admin dudes for ubuntu?10:52
bob2`no10:52
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bob2`I don't work on ubuntu, I just work for the same company10:52
lunitiklewwy: anyone with an account can edit pages10:52
cowbudbob2`: ahh doing what?10:52
lunitiklewwy: even you if you go sign up...10:52
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pepsi;)10:52
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lunitiklewwy: true community based documentation  8)10:53
bob2`cowbud: bazaar.canonical.com, baaaaybe10:53
lewwyokay heres another one for you bob2`10:53
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Sungsung10:53
lewwybob2`, i have libmad installed, however music player complains of nothing being able to handle mp310:53
lunitikbob2`: ahh... I need to learn to code so I can check that thing out in a useful way  :(10:53
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cowbudbob2`: ahh another revision control system?10:53
bob2`lewwy: indeed, you need gstreamer0.8-mad10:53
bob2`lewwy: I don't know what page would have said you need libmad10:54
lunitikbob2`: surely it is covered by the 'BreakMyUbuntu' part?  ;)10:54
lewwyyeh i got that too, still no salami10:54
lewwywait, im thinking confliction10:54
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bob2`lewwy: then rhythmbox at least should be able to play10:54
holycowoh for fucks sake10:54
holycowcowbud, thx10:54
bob2`lunitik: heh10:54
holycowbug 279010:54
bob2`blah, I hate the wiki10:54
^DMdoes anybody know or have a dynalink external modem?10:54
cowbudholycow: :) yah I hate that shit10:54
holycowsorry about that, getting used to ubuntu and too many other things happening at the same time10:55
bob2`^DM: external modems should Just Work10:55
lunitikbob2`: not that bad... so long as people go through and audit it... some of the things on there is laughably wrong...10:55
cowbudholycow: the fun part about bugs is playing the game "Whose bug is it anyway"10:55
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cowbudis it your distros? is it upstream? Ohh who knows fuck it I am not filing naything10:55
holycowlol cowbud well i appreciate bouncing the ideas back at me10:55
bob2`lunitik: oh, I mean, I hate using it10:55
holycowi just wasn't seeing it10:55
^DMyeah but i need to know the power input, i read somewhere that it's 12v 1 amp AC10:55
cowbudholycow: hey cows have to stick together10:56
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lewwybob2`, where would i get rythmbox?10:56
lunitikbob2`: I haven't found myself using it that much either... other then fixing errors etc...10:56
lewwynvm mispell10:56
holycowcowbud, haha :) that too *nod*10:56
lewwyhmmm10:57
bob2`lewwy: you already have it installed10:57
lewwyget ubuntu working, or do science assignment. HMMMMMMMMMM10:57
^DMso does anyboby have a dynalink external modem??10:57
deFryskit the music player in menu lewwy10:57
lunitikbob2`: heh... heh... stupid little things like people changing the wiki type... and bad syntax in the wiki etc...10:57
lewwybob2, deFrysk, it wont play mp3 files10:57
lewwybob2, yes, gstreamlibmad wahtever10:57
deFryskthe madplugin is what you need lewwy10:58
bob2`lewwy: paste the output of "dpkg -l rythmbox gstreamer0.8-mad | tail -n2" to #flood10:58
lewwyTHANKYOU deFrysk10:58
deFryskforgot the correct name10:58
lewwyi think deFrysk just solved my problem.  I need a plugin10:58
bob2`the correct name is gstreamer0.8-mad10:58
lunitiklewwy: 'apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad' is what you were told... for _everyone_ else... this allows mp3 playback...10:58
bob2`yes, the plugin is the package I told you to install10:58
bob2`18:58:12          bob2` | lewwy: paste the output of "dpkg -l rythmbox gstreamer0.8-mad | tail -n2" to #flood10:58
bob2`lewwy: do that10:58
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MaRk-I^DM, http://www.dynalink.com.au/products/ check your model then at bottom says full spec sheets10:59
bob2`so10:59
bob2`shockingly10:59
bob2`lewwy didn't actually install the package I told him to10:59
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bob2`how strange rhythmbox doesn't work10:59
bob2`18:58:28          bob2` | the correct name is gstreamer0.8-mad10:59
lunitikbob2`: *g* nuh uh  :P10:59
bob2`I told you that 4 times now11:00
lewwyi tell you what11:00
lewwyi'll be frigging damned11:00
lewwyi installed that!11:00
lewwylinux lies!11:00
lewwyLIES!11:00
^DMthanks mark, but ive been there before, and no help11:00
deFrysklewwy, I think you just f00kerd your ubuntu11:00
MaRk-I^DM, what's the model?11:00
cowbudlewwy: nah you are referring to another os11:01
lewwyhooray11:01
lewwynow i get a segmentation fault11:01
cowbudohh shit my CPU is hitting 100% why big W ohh why?11:01
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^DMv1456vqe11:01
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lunitikcowbud: 'top'  :/11:01
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bob2`lunitik: from what?11:01
cowbudlunitik: the big W is for windows ;) lunix tells you11:01
bob2`er, lewwy11:01
lewwybob2`, now i get a segmentation fault apon loading a mp3 directory11:01
bob2`oh lord11:01
zerokarmalefthow come changelogs for bleeding edge hoary packages can't be d/led through synaptic?11:01
bob2`you need to learn to be way more specific when describing problems11:02
lunitikcowbud: so does Windows... if you know where to look  :/11:02
cowbudbob2`: I am interesting in working on say ubuntu security is there a possiblity in getting started with that if so how would I go about that (yah you might not be the one to ask but you at least work for the company)11:02
lewwyok you want specific11:02
cowbudlunitik: yah info isn't as obvious at is in linux11:02
cowbudat/as11:02
bob2`lewwy: do you mean "When I run 'rhythmbox /mnt/dir/', where the dir contains a ton of mp3s, it crashes with a segfault error."?11:02
lunitikbob2`: is what from what?  you lost me  :(11:02
bob2`zerokarmaleft: there's no changelog server for ubuntu, afaik11:02
corzasomeone help me with samba?11:02
bob2`lunitik: typo, sorry11:03
cowbudcorza: more specific questions lead you down the path of enlightenment11:03
woodywartyHow do I use GnuPG to sign my mails in clearsign mode ?11:03
corzacowbud: well i need to give my windows computer access to sharing my ubuntus printer11:03
lewwybob2`, loading works fine.  I can muck around and play .mod files properly.  However, upon clicking music->  import folder it crashes when i select a directory and click "Open" with a segmentation fault11:03
lewwyare we happy now?11:03
woodywartyIn Evolution11:03
bob2`cowbud: hrm. what sort of security?  you'd need to be working on a distro to help with security updates, in most cases, but other stuff you can ask about on the ubuntu=-security list.11:03
cowbudcorza: ahh well cups should be able to do that without windows..11:03
lewwythe songs are on a NTFS drive11:03
MaRk-I^DM, did you check the discontinued models??11:04
corzacowbud: wat?11:04
lunitikcorza: have you tried to do anything with it? we can help with issues... but not too many people will be willing to teach you to use samba11:04
bob2`lewwy: I'm not being a dick, I need this information to actually help you11:04
cowbudbob2`: well isn't there a ubuntu security team that watches out for security issues and tests patches etc?11:04
corzalunitik: yes i have11:04
^DMno i didn't11:04
MaRk-IV1456VQE-R1 EXTERNAL V.90 FAX/VOICE/DATA MODEM <<< that it??11:04
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lewwybob2`, i know and appreciate that, and im sorry.  I still dont fully understands the concepts of linux11:04
corzalunitik: i have edited the settings in samba and even used "guest ok = yes"11:04
bob2`cowbud: sure, but they'd be doing most of their stuf before the issue is publically known11:04
lewwybob2`, and i really do appreciate you helping me lie this11:04
woodywartyHow do I use GnuPG to sign all my mails in Evolution  in clearsign mode ?11:04
zerokarmaleftbob2, http://changelogs.ubuntu.com isn't it?11:04
MaRk-I^DM, http://www.dynalink.com.au/products/obsolete_index.htm11:04
bob2`cowbud: and you'd need to be on vendor-sec to help with that, but that would require already working on security for another distro11:05
cowbudcorza: hold on I got a link coming..11:05
corzalunitik: my windows pc can see that the printe ris there and it has all the drivers installed for the printer but it has 'denied access'11:05
lewwyso bob2` was the info i gave u any good?11:05
cowbudbob2`: so how could I start to get in to that area?11:05
bob2`zerokarmaleft: oh, cool, didn't know that existed11:05
bob2`lunitik: can you try logging into the wiki?11:05
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Dreamer3sheesh, maybe i'm too used to uclibc, but 700kb for irssi seems a bit large for a irc client :)11:06
holycowthanks for putting up with my dumb questions tonight11:06
holycowlater11:06
terry97can someone tell me of a good file manager for fluxbox11:06
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Dreamer3terry97: nautilus? *winks*11:07
lunitikbob2`: I could... but it takes an insanely long time to actually log in via Konqi...11:07
deFryskmc11:07
terry97it doesnt work with fluxbox11:07
lewwyok, i have sucessfully narrowed down that the files being on a NTFS drive is not a problem.  When i go to open location, i get a segmentation fault again bob2`11:07
Dreamer3terry97: sure it does :) it just depends on gnome, hence the joke :)11:07
lewwyupon actually opening a file11:07
bob2`lewwy: what does "dpkg -l rhythmbox | tail -n1" print out?11:07
Dreamer3terry97: try rox11:07
bob2`can someone else try logging into the wiki for me?11:07
lewwyii  rhythmbox      0.8.8-7ubuntu3 music player and organizer for GNOME11:07
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lunitikbob2`: worked here...11:08
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lewwy...and im in KDE.  Is that a problem bob2` ?11:08
^DMPower Supply 12 Volts AC 1 Amp. <--- thanks MaRk-I , now i have to find my ac/dc output box, had it for 10 years and now that i want to use it i cant find it, lost in my house somewhere11:08
terry97what is the joke I dont get it11:08
lunitikbob2`: and they say hitting a widget multiple times doesn't speed anything up  8)11:08
bob2`cowbud: I'd guess helping with universe security would be a good start, but #ubuntu-motu would know more about that11:08
cowbudcorza: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#networkprinter11:08
MaRk-I^DM, good luck m811:08
bob2`lunitik: hrm, thanks11:08
lewwyhowever that said XMMS plays MP3's11:08
cowbudbob2`: cool thanks11:08
lunitikbob2`: you having issues?11:08
lewwywhy does the quality seem more sharper in linux...11:08
bob2`lunitik: shouldn't be11:08
bob2`bah11:09
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Dreamer3lewwy: imagination11:09
bob2`lewwy: shouldn't be11:09
SungI just installed Ubuntu and done afterthing right up to rebooting after installation of ubuntu but once the BIOS finshes and grub is suppose to load it just reboots again.11:09
corzacowbud: i've tried that already11:09
Dreamer3lewwy: despite it's many advantages some secret mp3 decoder no one else has is not possesed by linux alone :)11:09
bob2`lunitik: yeah, was getting a login popup window from firefox11:09
bob2`Dreamer3: well, mad is theoretically better than most other ones11:09
bob2`dunno if it's audiably better11:09
lewwyok xmms now plays mp3's correctly11:10
Dreamer3ah, 557k for irssi11:10
Sungno one has any suggestions ?11:10
lunitikbob2`: ahh... yuk... heh... I didn't get anything like that though... specific to employees perhaps?11:10
lewwy...11:10
lewwydamn me11:10
bob2`lunitik: hrm, weird11:11
lewwyvideo playing just started working aswell....11:11
freetdoes anyone know a good konsole - multimedia player?11:11
Sunggrub won't load on boot.11:11
cowbudcorza: alright well then check this one for samba stuff http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/sharing_with_windows.html11:11
freetSung: that sux11:11
freetSung: :D11:11
Sungyes it does.11:11
freetSung: u sure u haven't overwritten it?11:11
Sungi haven't done anything to it since install.11:11
bob2`freet: cplay is nice11:11
corzacowbud: yep been there too11:11
freetbob2`: k ill give it a try11:12
cowbudcorza: alright and what happens?11:12
lunitikfreet: mplayer ... uhh... mpg123 ... there are a bunch..11:12
cowbudcorza: lets hammer this out wtf I got time..11:12
Sungfreet: is there a hotkey or something so i can manually load grub ?11:12
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freetSung: no, dont think so11:13
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freetbob2`: it won't install11:13
bob2`freet: ok...11:13
bob2`works fine here11:13
Sungfreet: so i should just reinstall it ?11:13
dracflamloc_=)11:13
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dracflamloc_i'm on ubuntu!11:13
lunitikSung: umm... you mean ESC?  I dont' get what you mean by "a hotkey to manually _load_ grub"?11:13
lewwybob2`, do you know how to get gmplayer to work in fullscreen?11:13
v3n0mHey all if i put the 500mb download of ubuntu onto a dvd disc will it work orrite ???11:13
freetSung: i think so11:13
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bob2`lewwy: probably hit f11:13
bob2`works in mplayer11:13
freetSung: u have an ubuntu live cd?11:13
Sunglunitik: i am a big newbie atm.11:13
cowbudcorza: you did that did you restart samba?11:13
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Sungfreet: i am on the live verison.11:13
Tuxicitydracflamloc_, welcome :)11:14
freetSung: ah11:14
lewwyno go bob2` it keeps it the same size, doesnt stretch it11:14
Flonne:)11:14
lunitiklewwy: edit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf ... its well commented...11:14
freetSung: just a silly question; it aint with the livecd in your pc your grub doesnt load? :)11:14
lunitikbob2`: in Ubuntu... appears to assume your computer sucks  :P11:14
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Sungfreet: however i also downloaded the install version and finshed installing it but it gets far as about to load the Grub, then it just goes blank and reboots.11:14
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v3n0mhey seveas11:15
gabaugwhere do a put a kernel module after compiling it so that it will be automatically loaded/found on boot?11:15
bob2`lewwy: just use mplayer then11:15
Sungfreet: i may be using the wrong techinal jaragon.11:15
v3n0mcan i put ubuntu onto a dvd disk, like will it boot fine or will it not work???11:15
lunitikgabaug: /etc/modules11:15
bob2`gabaug: what module wasn't included in the default kernel?11:15
gabaugbob2: rt250011:15
freetSung: dunno :)11:15
gabauger, bob2`11:16
v3n0mdoes any 1 no?11:16
Sungwell i am off to explore some more.11:16
bob2`odd11:16
Sungits been some 2 days just to partition the dam HD cuz of Microsoft.11:16
cowbudcorza: I just set it up using that page..so if you have questions ask them :)11:16
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gabauglunitik: ok, I added a line in there...what directy do I put the .ko file for it to find it?11:17
gabauglunitik: er, what directory11:17
freetwtf if i try to apt-get install i'm getting errors = the following packages cannot be authenticated :s11:17
freetwhat's wrong?11:17
woodywartyHow do I use GnuPG to sign all my mails in Evolution  in clearsign mode ?11:17
lunitikgabaug: when you compiled... it should have resulted in a file somewhere in /lib/modules ...11:17
lewwyhooray for gmplayer scaling!11:17
freetwtf if i try to apt-get install i'm getting errors = the following packages cannot be authenticated :s11:18
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freetwhat's wrong?11:18
MaRk-Ihow do I check or download security updates??11:18
lunitikfreet: don't repeat...11:18
freetlunitik: sorry :)11:18
michael__hey, i like the MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowto page on the ubuntu documentation, but is there an equivalent guide somewhere for if you have a usb midi controller?11:18
lunitikfreet: newly dist-upgraded to hoary?11:18
freetlunitik: jup, some twenty minutes ago11:18
lunitikfreet: heh... here, I just let it complain... then did it again, and it had auto-fetched the key...11:18
woodywartyI am going mad. How do I use GnuPG to sign all my mails in Evolution  in clearsign mode ?11:19
freetlunitik: strange11:19
freetlunitik: aha found out11:19
lunitikfreet: afaict, its auto-fetched during apt-get update ...11:19
freetlunitik: just doing apt-get update solves it all11:19
freetlunitik: hehe :p11:20
woodywartyHow do I use GnuPG to sign all my mails in Evolution  in clearsign mode ?11:20
freetlunitik: thx11:20
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lunitikfreet: yw... although, not entirely sure how I helped  :P11:20
bob2`woodywarty: you don't need to keep asking over and over11:20
bob2`woodywarty: it's quite possible it doesn't do non-mime sigs, since they're deprectaed and annoying11:20
dracflamloc_hm11:21
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freetlunitik: well, you brought me on the idea to apt-get update :p11:21
TuxicityMaRk-I, security updates skhould show up in Synaptic if u have the security repos11:21
cowbudcorza: here is more info with just cups if oyu want to ditch samba (if oyu are just using it for printing..) http://www.owlfish.com/thoughts/winipp-cups-2003-07-20.html11:21
freetcan i open entire directories with mpg321?11:21
gabaugwhy is it so difficult to make a link from my desktop to a directory (one that happens to be on a mounted vfat partition)?11:21
bob2`freet: mpg321 *11:22
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cowbudgabaug: uhh it shouldn't be hard what are you trying?11:22
freetah :)11:22
MaRk-ITuxicity, hhmm ok thanks just read one in the wiki page posted today... I'll check11:22
bob2`woodywarty: http://bugzilla.ximian.com/long_list.cgi?buglist=2195411:22
gabaugcowbud: the only way I know how in GNOME is to use the context menu option and then move the link that's created to wherever I want...11:23
gabaugcowbud: but that's greyed out11:23
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cowbudgabaug: open a terminal cd Desktop then do ln -s /whereever NAMEOFLINK11:23
cowbudtry that11:23
freetcant play from my mount directory, "argument list too long"11:23
bob2`that's true11:24
freetfreet: /mnt/Documents and Settings/...11:24
lunitikfreet: try mpg123 ... it sucks less  :P11:24
bob2`using mpg321to play your music is going to highly annoying, anyway11:24
gabaugcowbud: yeah...I know...but it's dissapointing that people uncomfortable with the cli can't do it easily11:24
bob2`lunitik: no it doesn't11:24
bob2`mpg123 does the same thing but with a stupid license11:24
lunitikfreet: use auto-complete... you need \ 's in front of each space11:24
cowbudgabaug: well I can do that fine..care to ellaborate more on your issue? I.e. give me specifics and I will try it but making a link from say documents and settings is no problem through gnome on this end..11:25
freetlunitik: i do use auto-complete :p11:25
bob2`lunitik: that won't help11:25
bob2`it's a shell limitation11:25
bob2`use cplay or xargs11:25
gabaugcowbud: what I really want are icons on the desktop that look like disks that will browse the mounted partitions when clicked ... like removable media except for not removable11:25
bob2`but xargs will b a highly annoying music player11:25
freetmaybe with " " 's11:25
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lunitikbob2`: for my use case it does... I have no stolen music... so its useless to if it can't play .pls files remotely11:25
bob2`er, ok11:25
bob2`I have enough music from ripping my cds that * is not going to work11:26
bob2`mplayer is a better streaming thing anyway11:26
freetwell, i can open one song :p11:26
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cowbudgabaug: yah there is something f'd up in ubuntu what I do is restart dbus and they appear :)11:26
cowbudI haven't taken the time to find what theroot cause is..11:26
freethere i go upgrading to kde :p11:27
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deFryskupgrading ?11:27
deFrysk;p11:27
deFryskto KDE ?11:27
deFrysk??11:27
gabaugcowbud: well I can see that some people might not like their partitions visible on their desktop...but it'd be nice if it was easily doable11:27
freetdeFrysk: well yeah, u know what i mean11:27
lunitikfreet: would have been less annoying if you'd just fetched Kubuntu install cd...11:27
freetdeFrysk: yeah, 3.411:27
cowbudgabaug: yah there is a gconf key to "show volumes" and the bastard still doesn't work correctly..11:27
deFryskkde = blah11:27
cowbuddeFrysk: lets not start that11:27
gabaugcowbud: and the lack of right-click drag support to copy, move or link kills me, even though I've been off windows 4+ yrs11:28
deFrysknm11:28
Xappegabaug: at least so they appear on the Places menu11:28
deFryskcowbud, I wont11:28
freetlunitik: well, i exceeded my bandwidth so it would take some years to fetch it, so i used one of those CD's they delivered me :)11:28
lunitikdeFrysk: not to be a troll... but KDE has everything I want GNOME to have... and its faster... so I'd consider it an upgrade.11:28
deFrysklunitik, good for you11:28
cowbudgabaug: try middle11:28
lunitikdeFrysk: I know right.11:29
cowbudgabaug: is that what you are looking for?11:29
deFrysk:D11:29
gabaugcowbud: hah!!! been using GNOME for years and never knew that!11:29
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lunitikgrrr11:29
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gabaugcowbud: why did they choose middle click drag and not follow MS..?11:29
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cowbudgabaug: got me11:30
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MaRk-Ino wonder it wasn't updating.... the security repos wasn't checked :P11:30
cowbudgabaug: but I recently stumpled on the middle click of doom as well and what do you know now I am sharing it :)11:30
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gabaugcowbud: of course, doing that and choosing "Make link" on the disk icons in the "Computer" nautilus window causes an "Error: Unsupported operation while linking...blahblah"11:30
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gabaugcowbud: anyway, thanks for the help11:31
ericfWith the newest hoary, I thought the "Human" windowing-theme was like clearlooks, but brown: with rounded edges, and a bit smaller squares/x-es in the buttons at the top-right of the window. When I switched to clearlooks, and then back to Human, the Human theme had sharp edges. Can anyone confirm this?11:31
ericf(it's also possible that I'm mistaken)11:32
brainZzZi have no idea that i'm *helping*, but its no skin off my back11:32
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Burgundaviaericf: the latest human is done with the clearlooks engine11:33
cowbudgabaug: yah sorry it wasn't a complete enlightenment :)11:33
ericfBurgundavia: Ah. Then something is weird here. Is it still clearlooks-like if you switch off and back to Human?11:34
ericfBurgundavia: at your system11:34
brainZzZyou have a driver or dll loading that your system doesn't like. have you checked the hardware compatablilty list and make sure win2k3 likes your parts?11:34
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XiraI just did an apt-get upgrade11:34
Xirain hoary11:34
Xiraand rebooted11:34
brainZzZsigmund raises his hoary head11:34
Xiraand now the default theme changed11:34
Xiradid this happen for everyone else!?11:34
Burgundaviaericf: hmm. I have never changed the look. I happen to like human.11:34
wdhXira, you like it?11:34
wdh:P11:34
XiraWell11:35
ericfXira: isn't it great :) here too, I must say i like it11:35
XiraIt was clearlooks11:35
XiraNow it's back to it was in warty11:35
ericfBurgundavia: Yes, me too, but that wasn't the question :) Can you try, please11:35
Xirawell11:35
XiraIt has the clearlooks scrollbars11:35
Burgundaviaericf: can do11:35
Xirabut the warty titlebar11:35
XiraRight?11:35
ericfXira: Heeeeey, here too :)11:35
ericfXira: I was just mentioning it11:35
soukiericf: for me, Human is square corner, clearlook is round11:35
Xiraoho k11:35
XiraI just got scared11:35
Xirao.O11:35
wdhXira, maybe the clearlooks theme changed?11:35
XiraNo11:35
Burgundaviaericf: yes it does11:36
XiraThis was the warty-style titlebars11:36
Burgundaviaericf: let me restart x and see if that helps11:36
ericfBurgundavia: good idea11:36
freetdoes a konsole-browser exist?11:36
XiraWhat do you guys think about the newest human11:36
XiraIt's a mix bewtween the warty stlye-clearlooks11:37
ericfXira: I think it's a mistake11:37
Xiraericf, huh?11:37
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ericfXira: I hope it is ;)11:37
soukiericf: are you talking about the "Human" theme or "ClearlookHuman" theme ?11:37
ericfThe Human theme with the sharp edges11:38
Xirasouki, the latest apt-get update in hoary changes human to a mix bewtween human and clearlooks11:38
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ericfsouki: I don't know about clearlookhuman, but I think that was and should be the default :)11:38
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soukiXira: I've updated 2 hours ago11:38
XiraI just did11:38
XiraLMAO11:39
XiraMY LOGIN SCREEN11:39
XiraWTF11:39
brainZzZlmao.11:39
Xiraapril first.. hah11:39
jsgotangcohaha11:39
Xirascared the shit out of me11:39
ericfrotlfmaopimp11:39
Xirathought I got rooted11:39
jsgotangcoyou get 3 guys hugging each other11:39
jsgotangcoLOL11:39
jsgotangco:D11:39
ericfw00t w00t11:39
ericf:-s11:39
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XiraMaybe the theme's apart of it too?11:40
Burgundaviaericf: rebooting didn't help11:41
jsgotangco*grin*11:41
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Burgundaviaericf: it seems it rolled back one revision in the clearlooks-human theme11:41
ericfBurgundavia: Well, it's the new default theme, then. I don't know if that's a mistake or a decision, though.11:41
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Burgundaviaericf: no11:41
Burgundaviaericf: it seems the default theme was updated11:42
ericfdowngraded :-P11:42
Burgundaviavery wierd in any case11:42
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TuxicityNormally, should I use the "default" or "smart" upgrade method in Synaptic?11:43
ericfTuxicity: If you run hoary, yes11:43
Tuxicityericf, no Warty11:44
saberAnyone ever have a problem with the load averages reported by warty?11:44
Tuxicityericf, and yes to which?11:44
ericfTuxicity: ow :)11:44
sabermy cpu usage is pretty low (the machine is idle), and the uptime is really high11:44
ericfTuxicity: In warty there is no need to do smart-upgrade, but I think it won't really hurt11:44
scizzosaber: well...isn't that good?11:44
deFrysksmart means dist-upgrade11:44
Xirahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia11:45
Xirarofl11:45
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saberi don't think so scizzo. an idle machine shouldn't have high load averages11:45
brainZzZup 72 days, 2:46, 20 users, load averages: 1.95, 1.45, 0.9711:46
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saberwell you've got a few users on there.11:46
TuxicitydeFrysk, when should I dist-upgrade if ever?11:47
BurgundaviaTuxicity: if you are running the development versions, then yes11:47
BurgundaviaTuxicity: or you are updating to the next stable version11:47
deFryskTuxicity, dist-upgrade when deps are not met without installing new packs11:47
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TuxicityBurgundavia, deFrysk: ok thnks11:48
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BurgundaviaTuxicity: np11:48
deFryskTuxicity, dist-upgrade can also remove packs when deps are not met (it warns then)11:49
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jsgotangcolater all11:50
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n4chtrawr.  i'm so pissed off.11:51
Burgundavia?11:51
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n4chtstupid dalnet.11:52
terry97anyone suggest a browser for fluxbox11:52
scizzoterry97: firefox11:52
terry97got that11:52
n4chtno peering to comcast, so when i manage to connect directly to a server... i get:  Closing Link: 0.0.0.0 (You match the pattern of a known trojan11:53
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n4chtapparently, to dalnet, linux is a virus.11:53
Rod_what is the name of the network card on the asus k8n-deluxe motherboard? i cant figure it out :(11:53
dracflamlocum how do i get mp3 support into ubuntu11:53
kakaltoeasily11:53
scizzon4cht: who cares about that network?11:53
kakaltojust out of curiousity, dracflamloc, have you seen www.ubuntuguide.org ?11:54
scizzodracflamloc: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:54
kakaltoor that site11:54
n4chti do.  that's where i started out, and a lot of people i know still hang out there.11:54
n4chti'm trying to drag them over to freenode though.  :)11:54
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Rod_my network card doesnt work and the binary drivers fail to install while the binary drivers of the video card install just fine11:54
scizzon4cht: try different servers11:54
dracflamlockakalto, nope i just stumbled upon ubuntu's main site earlier11:54
n4chtscizzo, ALL of them do it.11:54
dracflamlocnow that i know i'll ve sure to look11:54
scizzon4cht: cool11:54
kakaltoahk, well, it's a good link11:55
garrutRod_: what has your videocard got to do with your network card?11:57
MaRk-Ibrb rebooting11:57
Rod_garrut, well the nvidia binary videocard drivers install just fine but the nvidia network + audio drivers wont install just fine11:58
Rod_so it aint a gcc / linux headers apt-get prob11:58
Rod_it should use forcedeth anyway but doesnt work11:58
Rod_i cant believe im the only one with this prob... it? completely common hardware11:59
scizzonvidia network?11:59
n4chtwow.  so it's not just XChat.  every client i've tried has had the same result: DALNet thinks linux is a trojan.11:59
Rod_well i cant figure out which network card i precicely have :( Its an onboard from asus k8n-deluxe11:59
lewwyonly 2hrs and 48 mins till hoary updates :rolleyes:12:00
lewwyhey heres a good question.  What exactly is the point of updating in hoary?12:01
lewwyStability? Speed?12:01
n4chtkeeping packages up to date?12:02
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MaRk-Iwth!!!!12:02
lewwyyeh n4cht but with synaptic12:02
n4chtbrb12:02
MaRk-Ihow do I change the log in screen???12:02
lewwyMaRk-I, i should know this, and i almost do12:02
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lewwybut i dont12:02
scizzoMaRk-I: change the log?12:02
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Tuxicityahahaha12:03
lewwyMaRk-I, i suppose...if you like that sort of thing12:03
n4chti quite like letting ubuntu do all my updating for me... cuz i'm lazy.12:03
brainZzZhahahaha12:03
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MaRk-Ilewwy, what sort of thing?? a bar or hugging guys??12:03
lewwyhugging guys...12:04
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MaRk-Ierr not even drunk12:04
Telepwhat's wrong with hugging guys??12:04
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Kamakaziehrm,  how can i decompress a rar?12:04
Telepunrar12:04
Kamakazieunrar ./file.rar doesnt work12:04
MaRk-Ianyways brb12:04
lewwyKamakazie, rar-nonfree package i think12:04
Kamakazieit fails12:04
Telephmm12:04
lewwyor unrar-nonfree12:05
n4chtthe rar file might be bad, maybe?12:05
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MaRk-Ioops wrong X.. brb12:05
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n4cht'it fails' is kinda non-descript.  i'm sure it gives some sort of error when it fails.  it doesn't just say "yeah.  failure.  guess who's not getting anything out of THIS rar archive, sucker!"12:06
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lewwylol n4cht12:07
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lewwyhey, how do i make x server able to take the 2048x1536 resolution? quake3 just windows itself when i try to change it that high12:07
petemcKamakazie: have you tried looking at the unrar man page?12:07
lewwyand yes, i can play it at 60fps at that res :D12:07
dwa_why would you even want that res?12:08
dwa_:)12:08
Rodwasnt me12:08
lewwytesting performance differences between windows and linux dwa_12:08
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rdw200169in grub... where does the initrd file come from?12:08
n4chtlewwy, wow.  that's... just.. wow.    i just spent 5 years in 800x600, and FINALLY upgraded to a monitor capable of 1280x1024...  that's... wow.12:08
cowbudrdw200169: /boot it is created with mkinitrd12:08
dwa_can't you change it in the xorg.conf file lewwy ?12:09
archangel_19can anyone see what I type?12:09
lewwyn4cht, my 19" can take 2048x1536 at 60hz12:09
cowbudarchangel_19: yers12:09
dwa_no archangel_1912:09
cowbudhah12:09
n4chtarch, no.  no we can't.12:09
rdw200169thanks12:09
lewwyno we cant archanel_1912:09
lewwyomg12:09
Tuxicitypoor fellow o_012:09
lewwyhe better not have fallen for it12:09
n4chtlewwy, i'm running a 17" philips CRT.    sucks to your 19" of love.12:10
lewwyn4cht, so any idea on how to up it to 2048x1536?12:10
n4chtabsolutely no frickin' clue.... aside from maybe defining it in xorg.conf, and setting it as the default res?12:11
garrutadding to your xorg.conf doesn't work?12:11
rdw200169i just finished compiling a new kernel... and i would like to know if theres anything *special* i have to do for ubuntu12:11
rdw200169as far as mkinitrd for grub is concerned12:12
n4chtnot meant to sound condescending, snarky, or otherwise asshat-ish.  i'm just suggesting how i would do it, without any knowledge of whether or not xorg can even run at that res.12:12
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lewwyuhhh n4cht im the one asking about resolutions12:13
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n4chtit was brought to my attention over a quick bite to eat at a diner around 2am that i frequently come off sounding rather condescending, even when it's clear that's not how i meant it.  so, from now on, when i catch myself doing that expect me to be like "oh, snap.  my bad."12:14
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n4chtrofl lewwy12:14
lewwywow12:14
lewwyeven he things i should12:14
lewwythinks*12:14
lewwylol im probably gonna get banned for that lol12:15
n4chtlewwy, it was definately witty and entertaining.  if i knew a quick and easy way to solve your problem, that would have definately prompted me into action.12:16
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n4chtand now, i've seen it all.12:16
lewwylol i get them off bash12:17
n4chti was just thinking to myself today: "yanno, if i could just see a random spatulaman, my life will be complete, and i can die happy."12:17
Tuxicitylewwy, curious, what gfx card uve got there?12:17
lewwyGeForce fx5600 w/256mb ram12:18
lewwycost me 170 bucks, not last year ,but the year before12:18
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lewwywhich is what they cost 2day ;12:18
lewwy;)12:18
Tuxicitylewwy, lucky12:18
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n4chtshite.  if you CAN'T run Q3 at 60FPS in _any_ res, something is severely wrong.   what's your avg FPS w/glxgears?12:18
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lewwy25,00012:19
n4chtwow.12:19
lewwyno12:19
lewwykidding12:19
lewwy3161 after 5 mins12:19
lewwy3600 after 10 secs12:19
lewwy4019 after 1512:19
lewwy4112 after 30 secs12:19
n4chtwow.  ok.. my 64MB GeForce 3 must be on some serious steroids.12:19
lewwyprobably averaging the 4000 mark12:19
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lewwyanyone else here?12:20
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LittleWashuI'm kind of here, fading in and out12:20
Tuxicityn4cht, have older cards better linux drivers maybe??12:20
lewwyyeh, my fx5600 is cheap12:21
n4cht5 sec: 2424, 10 sec, 2925, 15 sec 3396, 20 sec 3411, 30 sec 3226, after that it holds solid around 3400 FPS12:21
lewwyi think its only got 128 bit pipeline :(12:21
lewwyyeh but how much did THAT cost u12:21
n4chtabsolutely nothing.  it was in a computer a friend gave me to use for parts.12:21
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lewwywhaaa12:22
lewwywish i had friends like that12:22
n4chtalong with a SB Live! Platinum.12:22
lewwy...12:22
lewwyhes obviously in love with you12:22
n4chtshe.  ;)12:22
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lewwyoh lol12:22
MaRk-Ilewwy, computer/system conf/log in screen setup (Happy April's First) geez12:22
n4chti surround myself with hotties who adore me, much to my wife's constant irritation.12:23
n4chtlol12:23
lewwylol wife12:23
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lewwygood wife?12:23
n4chtlewwy, she uses linux.    need i say more?12:23
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UBabeKonqueror, available for Ubuntu? I cant seem to find it in my repositories, multiverse and universe are both turned on.12:24
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n4chtwow.12:25
mopflitekonqueror is an internal component of kde I believe, so one would I think need to install kde and then one would have it - it's not available as a standalone app afaik12:25
n4chtsecond xchat segfault ever.12:25
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n4chtSysInfo: Linux 2.6.10-5-386 |  AMD Athlon(tm)  1248.760 MHz | Bogomips: 2465.79 | Mem: 102/251M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 21.19G Free: 12.37G | Procs: 83 | Uptime: 1 day 12 mins 44 secs | Load: 0.38 0.56 0.36  | Vpenis: 22.4 cm | Screen: nVidia Corporation NV20 [GeForce3 Ti 500]  (rev a3) @ 1280x1024 (24 bpp) Corespeed: 239.826 MHz | eth0: In: 184.33M Out: 10.03M12:25
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n4chtSensors: HDD:12:25
mopfliten4cht: have you tried irssi?12:26
Seveaskonqueror is in main12:26
UBabeits just that Im using ubuntu for PPC12:26
n4chtmopflite, is irssi CLI or GUI?12:26
SeveasCLI12:26
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mopflitecli but it's easy to learn, unlike say ircii12:26
lewwyhey, would ubuntu be a viable oppurtunity for a 200mhz?12:26
n4chtthen.. no.12:26
lewwybrb12:26
lewwyleave ur answers for when i get back plzkthx12:26
n4chtif i were to use any cli client, it would be bitchx.12:26
scizzon4cht: why are you using one of those system info thingys?12:27
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n4chtscizzo, because i like to flaunt my completely gimped system for fun.12:27
UBabei got java to install using the IBM instructions on the following link http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/JavaPPC12:27
remhey, I have a hardware question: as soon as the cpu reaches 41 degrees Celcius (~105) the computer freezes. So as long as I dont do anything its ok, but when I start using it and reaches that temp it freezes..12:27
UBabebut apparently no Java plugins are available for Mozilla or its variations :-o12:28
remwhat could it be ? mb cpu ..?12:28
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scizzon4cht: those are horrible...12:28
garrutman, those guys from the login screen scared me..12:28
n4chtrem, first check your bios to make sure you don't have any safety features that kill it after a certain temp.  two, cool that sucka!12:28
remi tried to look for that ..but didnt find anything ..12:29
Kamakazieanyone here tried mounting a PSP yet?12:29
corzahmm is there a difference between preview and rc?12:29
corzai downloaded the preview did it update to the rc? or no?12:29
remi thought about cooling it, but the temp is not that high when it freezes ..12:29
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n4chtKamakazie, no.  but if i get a PSP, you best believe i'm gonna try.12:29
nfuckWhen i do as it's told in the first post at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20216.html , and trying to download enlightenment via synaptic, it just exit's the program. Why?12:29
remim not sure another fan would cool it better ..?12:29
Kamakazien4cht, heh, yea sucks it mounts okay, but wont work that well12:30
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DalkusAcroread is 99mb instilation??12:30
remthanx anyway ..12:31
remcyall12:31
n4chti'm actually just now trying to figure out how to mount my cable box.  (seriously.  it has a USB port in the front of it.)12:31
freetjust "upgraded" to kubuntu12:31
KamakazieSucks theres no one to help with this PSP prob, and I wanna load some video and mp3's on mah damn PSP12:31
freetbut now my xmms crashes when i try to open a song :s12:31
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freetdoes anyone know what could be the reaspn.12:31
freetreason?12:31
n4chtfreet, congrats.  you now have a completely worthless desktop environment running on one of the best linux distros of all time.12:32
freetn4cht: why?12:32
housetierfreet is xmms already running at the time you open that song file?12:32
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freethousetier: i can open it normally and i can change some preferences and stuff, but from the moment i try to play a song, it hangs12:33
UBaben4cht: is KDE a different desktop GUI alltogether is it, aside from Gnome?12:33
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UBaben4cht: Im a newbie, hence my nicl of Ubabe :-\12:33
LittleWashuAlright guys can someone help me out with this error it's really freaking me out12:33
Sungstill can't get the grub loader to load.12:34
scizzofreet: if you start XMMS in a terminal and do the same thing...do you get a nice little error then?12:34
Sungerr grub booter.12:34
LittleWashuOk, who is "General Error" and why is he reading my disk?12:34
freetscizzo, housetier it's ok12:34
MaRk-Ihahaha12:34
nfuck;)12:34
SungLittleWashu:do you happen to play duris ?12:34
freetscizzo, housetier i selected an other output-plugin12:35
SeveasLittleWashu, general erro is Major Failure's superior12:35
freetscizzo, housetier everything ok now12:35
LittleWashu;-_12:35
UBabeGeneral error is a few ranks up from Lietenant error ;)12:35
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MaRk-Ihahahaha12:35
nfuckWhen i do as it's told in the first post at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20216.html , and trying to download enlightenment via synaptic, it just exit's the program. Why?12:35
TuxicityUBabe, GNOME and KDE are the 2 main desptop environments on Linux, yes...12:35
UBabeTuxicity: all i need is a browser that can run a Java plugin12:36
n4chtUBabe, honestly...  i don't like either of them.  however, you'll find that this is nothing more than a personal opinion, based on the fact that i'm a minimalist fluxbox user and i don't buy into the whole 'desktop environment' craze.  i like a good 'ol solid stable window manager.  i don't need a GUI that strives to emulate windows to make my 'migration' to linux easier, since i haven't owned a windows PC in years.12:36
freeti think it's just a matter of taste, for myself, i prefer KDE a little, but i have no problems with GNOME12:36
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UBaben4cht: all im after, as i was mentioning to Tuxicity is a browser than can run a java plugin12:36
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tomcatHi All, I've got a quick question... perhaps a general one...12:37
TuxicityUBabe, all Mozilla-based browsers have a Java plugin, but on PPC, i dont know12:37
tomcatI've got a .deb file for something I want to install, but I don't know how to install it.12:37
Dalkustomcat, sudo dpkg -i package12:37
UBabeive installed Java, i can run basic applets but no plugins are out there for Mozilla so im told for PPC12:37
Dalkusreplace package with your .deb :)12:37
n4chtmozilla, opera, firefox, netscape, etc.   however, like Tuxicity, i'm not sure about PPC packages for java.12:37
tomcatDalkus, thx!12:38
Dalkusnp12:38
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UBabeTuxicity: it just seems kinda ridiculous, i can run .jar files and run Jtunes, i can run tic tac toe, but something as simple as a java plgin for a browser wont work just because im using PPC (?!)12:38
n4chtyanno what?  there needs to be more female linux users.  that's all there is to it.  i love me some hottie linux chicks.12:39
freetlet's go compile mplayer now :)12:39
freethope this time, it'll work12:39
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freetno, before that, another problem12:40
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freetterminal crashes :/12:41
tomcatAw crap... didn't work (coz the package was bad or not downloaded correctly?) Guess I'll have to wait til gimpshop gets added to the ubuntu multiverse....12:41
freettomcat: what's the error?12:42
tomcatdpkg: error processing gimp_2.2.4-2_i386.deb (--install):12:42
tomcat corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive: Success12:42
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freettomcat: indeed, looks like it's corrupt12:44
Kamakaziesomeone help me mount my PSP plz12:44
drummer87hey, can someone help me with partitioning? is it a good idea to have /var separate?12:45
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darren_Can anyone help with ndiswrapper?12:45
tomcatYeah, Maybe coz I downloaded it on my winbox 1st... Gimpshop skins Gimp to look like photoshop... can't wait to use it, as I've got experience with photoshop going back to version 2.0... and am a new linux convert now12:45
snowblinkdrummer87, yes12:46
MaRk-ILaptop mode reduces disk usage and thus can reduce the power consumption of<<< why would this be installed if my pc is a desktop?12:46
Sungwhat is a route device ?12:46
Dalkustomcat, why not just use apt-get for the gimp?12:46
Sungerr root device.12:46
Dalkusthey have a pretty up to date package12:46
drummer87snowblink: how much space does var need and what else should be separate?12:47
TuxicityUBabe, u tried Firefox plus the instructions on ubuntuguide.org?12:47
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snowblinkdrummer87, depends what you are using the box for. On my server a couple of gig.12:48
tomcatDalkus, I think whomever built the .deb named it wrong... where did I find this thing... ./?12:48
snowblinkdrummer87, man hier for your other partitions. I would recommend at least a separate /home12:49
KamakazieI cant find anything on the web about mounting a PSP in linux12:49
Dalkustomcat, do : sudo apt-get install gimp12:49
drummer87snowblink: desktop box.. internet, word, gimp, etc.. some programming12:49
Dalkustomcat, though check it isn't already isntalled... Ubuntu comes with the Gimp installed as default :)12:49
drummer87thanks12:50
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snowblinkdrummer87, ah you're probably okay without a separate /var then12:50
tomcatDalkus, this is just a frontend for the gimp, and I think the .deb I was trying to get might be named incorrectly12:50
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Dalkustomcat, where did you download it from?12:50
UBabeTuxicity ill give it another read, i just read the RestrictedFormats section12:50
drummer87snowblink: so just / and /home would be enough12:51
tomcatDalkus, it's mentioned on slashdot12:51
lirazHi guys I'm planning on setting up an ubuntu system on a 466mhz, 64mbram, 4mbgraphics card.. will i be able to run an interface?12:51
Dalkustry downloading ita gain?12:51
lirazmy system was ok with windows 98, and bareable with win2k.. :/12:51
Dalkusliraz, sure12:51
DalkusIt'll run smoother than win2k :)12:51
snowblinkdrummer87, you should be okay with that12:51
lirazgreat! =) but do you mean fluxbox?12:51
lirazand those kind of gui's(I'm new so i prefer the easier ones)12:51
drummer87snowblink: thanks for ur help12:52
lewwyhey guys, is there some way of customising ubuntu on install to use fluxbox/xfce?12:52
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snowblinkdrummer87, np12:52
DalkusIf you have low memory you might want to check out others... but gnome (installed by default) is nice and easy to use12:52
tomcatDalkus, got that gimp deb package from http://cmb.phys.cwru.edu/kisner/gimpshop/12:52
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MaRk-Ianyone recommends Firestater??12:53
mz2MaRk-I, I do12:54
Dalkustomcat, did you try redownloading it? sometimes files become corrupt when you download12:54
MaRk-Imz2, thanks12:54
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tomcatDalkus, yeah, that must be it..  ... I do want to try this out before adobe sues the developers into pulling this package12:56
dracflamloci like ubuntu alot now that i've got gcc and all my development stuff installed =)12:56
Dalkusheh, gotta be fast now-a-days. Especially with the new eu patent laws coming into practice12:56
Dalkustomcat, if you want to use amsn and mplayer, I suggest you get them sooner rather than later12:57
freeti have a question: for mplayer, i read that xfree86 is neccesary, but someone told me that hoary doesn't work with xfree86 but with something else: is this true?12:58
Bazziheh12:58
mz2i wouldn't say the eu patent laws are 100% surely going to go through. the parliament can still get rid of it12:59
Bazziwhen software patents are fully in place it could as well be that almost no software could be released anymore12:59
lirazI have tried finding some information to network install ubuntu, but I only mananged to find some stuff on mirroring debian mirrors and setting up the debian clients. Since I wanted to install ubuntu on a system over a network. Is there one simple command for me to run telnet without using a monitor12:59
tomcatDalkus: thx for the tip. http://codemills.com/blog/?p=4 is the site with the linux version of gimpshop. He says he's gonna compile an official .deb for it...  He's updated the site in the past few hours, so I think he'll have somethi8ng more ubuntu friendly in the next few hours12:59
mz2even if the commission put it through12:59
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Bazziimagine microsoft would enforce all their patents12:59
Bazzijoy12:59
DalkusYeah, hope so :) What is this frontend... what does it do?12:59
freetis it true hoary doesnt work with xfree86 but with something else?01:00
Seveasfreemymind, hoary comes with xorg instead of xfree8601:00
Dalkusmz2, I don't see parliament opposing the laws... they dont seem to care about them01:00
Seveasfreet* i mean01:00
freetSeveas: k thx01:00
freetSeveas: but then what to do with mplayer? their installation site says xfree86 is needed01:00
nfuckAny Swede here? I installed Enlightenment 17 and i by some reason did set the locale to utf8 but that's not the Swedish one. So was hoping you could tell me which is :P01:00
dracflamlochow can i make gnomes nautilus not open up a new window for every folder i go into?01:01
jagera21is it essential to update warty b4 upgrading to hoary.  i'm about 100MB short due to not updating at initial install.01:01
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mz2Seveas, well, they've voted against the patents every single time they could have, this far...01:01
tomcatDalkus: It skins GIMP to look like photoshop... which, for me would be very, very helpful.. and ensure I use my linux box more.01:01
Dalkusheh, it's a good idea :)01:01
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DalkusThe gimp is a *really* nice tool01:01
DalkusJust weird to get used to at first01:01
freetSeveas: or can i just neglect it?01:02
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Seveasfreet, not really, mplayer doesn't run on my hoary machine...01:02
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itayhi!01:03
DalkusAnyone know of any p2p applications that support the KAD network as well as the edonkey network?01:03
itayI install KDE and I like it!01:03
kzmnfuck: locale is more than just character set.  utf-8 supports Swedish characters (and any other character), but you may have to set up more stuff depending on what you want.01:03
BazziDalkus emule :D01:03
itayI want to install the nvidia driver01:03
tomcatDalkus: Yeah, honestly, I've made the adjustment to gnome... my 1st linux install was frickin gentoo (like ubuntu/synaptic much better) so i'm used to jumping in headfirst... but I really go back a long way with photoshop...01:03
itayhow do i do it?01:03
kzm(Oops, he's not here anymore)01:03
DalkusBazzi, eMule dosn't run under linux?01:03
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BazziDalkus I know ;) there are aMule, xMule etc though, they might support also kad01:04
tomcatGimp's just ...too... much... can't... bend..more....01:04
tomcat<--head threatens to explode01:04
itayhow can I install the nvidia driver?01:04
itayis there a package for that?01:05
DalkusBazzi, nope, they just use the edonkey network - and not as well as eMule :(01:05
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Bazzitried mldonkey?01:05
Dalkustomcat, yeah gentoo isn't exacrtly newbie friendly :)01:05
DalkusUbuntu is both newbie friendly and dosn't make those with more experience feel restricted01:05
darren_Has anyone used ndiswrapper before?01:05
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Dalkusand for people like me with experience but still alot to learn, its nice01:05
itaynobody here has installed a nvidia driver?01:05
Dalkusitay, yes :)01:06
tomcatDalkus: A fact they'll gladly point out on their user forums instaed of answering specific questions.01:06
Dalkusitay, www.ubuntuguide.org explains how to01:06
Dalkustomcat, how do you mean?01:06
MpiAny of you guys who can help a totally newb ubuntu/linux user?01:07
tomcatDalkus: Gentoo forums != helpful01:07
DalkusHeh, that I understand01:07
Dalkus:p01:07
snowblinkdarren_, yes - what problem are you having?01:07
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DalkusAnyone having problems enabling the Snack library in AMSN?01:07
Fuchs656hi all!I have a Question: I would like to install fglrx on my Machine i have read the wiki but the Problem is after that i have installed the fglrx-xorg driver i cant load its with modprobe fglrx because modprobe cant find the modul01:07
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MpiIve just installed ubuntu but am stuck even before the graphical interface has loaded. Is says "martin@ubuntu and I can acces root@ubuntu. But how do I move on from here??01:07
DalkusMpi, are you using warty?01:08
Mpiyes01:08
Dalkusso your logged in, but no graphical user interface has loaded?01:08
Mpiright01:08
Dalkustry 'sudo startx' and see what happens01:08
MpiMy account doesnt have root access by default but im using sudo command01:09
itaythank you01:09
Mpistartx...01:09
Dalkusyep01:09
MpiIll try it01:09
Dalkusalso make sure you :01:09
Dalkuspress ctrl-alt-f7 to check that you havnt pressed some keys by accident01:09
Mpiwill do :)01:10
gabaugwhen is the Hoary release?01:10
UBabehahaha! jTunes runs! ohohooo tis good tis good! :D01:10
Dalkusgabaug, under a week01:10
Bazzigabaug today.01:10
Dalkustoday??01:10
Bazziyeah, sure01:11
DalkusI heard it was the 5th?01:11
Mpithx, and im sure you havent seen the last of me in here..:-D01:11
Bazziwell, they finished early01:11
DalkusOh cool01:11
UBabejumpy, but it runs my server files! :D01:11
Fuchs656hi all!I have a Question: I would like to install fglrx on my Machine i have read the wiki but the Problem is after that i have installed the fglrx-xorg driver i cant load its with modprobe fglrx because modprobe cant find the modul01:11
=== MaRk-I so many pkgs, so little time...
gabaugI don't think it's today ... if you've seen the latest gdm background you know why : )01:11
DalkusIf I upgraded to hoary last night... should I apt-get upgrade? Or apt-get dist-upgrade ?01:11
Bazziapt-get fooled ;)01:12
Dalkuseh?01:12
Dalkusbah :P01:12
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Dalkushahah!01:12
DalkusIt's past midday here!01:12
Dalkus:D01:12
zerokarmaleftyay, finally f-spot 0.0.12 running stable01:12
Dalkusgrats, zerokarmaleft :)01:13
e-spydoes ubuntu have beagle apt-getable01:13
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Dr_AevilDalkus: dist-upgrade01:15
DalkusDr_Aevil, thanks01:15
Dr_Aevilalways dist-upgrade01:15
DalkusI take it it'll be a tiny download?01:15
DalkusSince I did the same last night01:15
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zerokarmaleftnot necessarily01:16
DalkusWell, smaller than if I hadn't - of course?01:16
zerokarmaleftDalkus, xorg has been updated a couple of times in the last few days01:16
DalkusOh, I hope I don't have to go through the ordeal that the last dist-upgrade gave me thanks to xorg01:17
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MaRk-Iok I installed some pkgs, do I have to log off for me to see the new ones installed?01:18
dracflamlochow can i install a .deb package?01:18
Dalkusdracflamloc, sudo dpkg - i packagename01:18
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Dalkus:)01:19
dracflamlocah01:19
itayI have some problem while install the nvidia driver01:19
itayI type "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"01:19
TuxicityMaRk-I, i think sometimes u do to see the new menu entries01:19
itayand I got an error (where should I paste it)?01:19
Dalkusin #flood01:19
MaRk-ITuxicity, thnks01:19
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itaywhat should I do?01:20
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Jamminpotatogood morning01:20
itayto do what written there?01:20
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Dalkusexcecute the command it suggests and try again :)01:21
DalkusI think that'll help you01:21
Dalkusmd5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5su01:21
Dalkusthen. sudo nvidia-glx-config enable again01:21
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itayit stuck in the second command01:21
davixafter I apt-get install kubuntu desktop, how do i remove my gnome(gdm)?01:22
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Dalkusdavix, apt-get remove packagename01:22
itaywhat should I do?01:22
davixyeah i know Dalkus, but what is the global package name for it?01:22
Dalkusno idea, sorry - try searching for gnome in synaptic... that'll give youa  clue01:23
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Dreamer3davix: can you just remove ubuntu-desktop itself?  does kubuntu-desktop pull in all the right depends?01:23
Dalkusitay, did you run the frist command?01:23
davixerm, i'll check it01:23
itayyes01:23
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mdkeanyone else failing to login on the website?01:23
itaythe output: 5e7ff7678c901a2d67f3536803fd3223  /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:23
DalkusDreamer3, I can only imagine so01:23
Dreamer3Dalkus: then should be easy :)01:23
Dreamer3Dalkus: 2 seconds with aptitude :)01:23
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Dreamer3Dalkus: add one, remove the other, done ;-)01:24
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DalkusYep, worst comes to worst, just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop again01:24
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itaynow it works01:24
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Dalkusitay, does it? What did you do? :)01:24
Dreamer3Dalkus: well, i'd look at what it was doing and make sure it wasn't screwing itself :)01:24
badtzmarki wanna install ATI driver...anyone can guide me?01:24
Dreamer3crimsun: where are thos xfce packages? :)01:24
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funkyhi01:24
Dalkusbadtzmark, yes, www.ubuntuguide.org explains all :)01:24
verden01can anyone tel me how to mount my ntfs (/dev/sda1) partition01:24
Dalkusverden01, the guide i just said also explains that01:25
funkywhat means "pc" at the begginig of a line in dpkg -l ?01:25
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petemcverden01: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/wherever -o umask=02201:25
cowbudverden01: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mountpoint....01:25
mdkeplease can someone try to login on the website, I can't seem to login and i wonder if its down again.01:25
Dalkusbut that dosn't mount itsself at startup01:25
cowbudahh umask of doom01:25
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verden01cool thanx01:25
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badtzmarkDalkus: site doesn't show ATI guide,it shows Nvidia...is it the same?01:27
Dalkusno they are different01:27
Dalkusbut it does show both01:27
xamdmhi01:27
Dalkusthey are next to eachother if i remember correctly... check the contents01:27
xamdmif have a strange sound-problem in hoary / kubuntu01:27
Dalkusbadtzmark, if not, then check the ubuntu wiki01:27
Tuxicitybadtzmark, no, check the ubuntu.com website01:27
markoops cant see anything01:27
xamdmif i try to speek with someone using skype  he does't hear me, but if i play a AudioCD he heres that !!??01:28
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cowbudxamdm: sounds like you have the wrong device setup for recording..01:28
queuetueEvolution doesn't seem to mark anything as junk on it's own, even though it's turned on in mail settings ...  Is there some package I need to install first?01:28
xamdmcowbud, how to change ??01:28
roelxamdm: connect your speakers01:28
roel:)01:28
MpiHmm, i do not understand: At boot why am I not given the option to choose between OS/partitions?? It runs Ubuntu as default...01:28
queuetue( I dutifully mark all spam as junk on my own, so it should be learning, right?)01:28
Tuxicitybadtzmark:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto/view?searchterm=fglrx01:29
DalkusMpi, did you install the bootloader correctly?01:29
cowbudxamdm: what version of skype are you using?01:29
Mpidalkus, sure hope so01:29
Dreamer3auto updates needs a way to specify what time it should fetch updates01:29
cowbudxamdm: and have you looked here? http://www.skype.com/help/guides/soundsetup_linux.html01:29
xamdmcowbud, 1.0.0.2001:29
DalkusMpi, try reading up about configuring grub on google01:29
Mpihowever it wouldnt accept my screen settings somehow01:29
xamdmcowbud, i have this problem with any recording-software01:30
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cowbudxamdm: yah the problem is you are not selecting the correct dsp...01:30
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cowbudxamdm: have you tried othe rsettings for recording?01:30
MpiIll read up...01:30
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stianhwhere is the audio device normally?01:31
stianhor rather, where is the audio-server normallay? I have a program that looks in /dev/dsp which doesn't work01:31
xamdmcowbud, there is only one dsp01:32
cowbudxamdm: how are you trying to talk to them through amic connected to your sound card?01:32
kenthow come planet.gnome.org and planetkde.org is mixed now?  I find gnome at kde, and vice verse.  :(01:33
xamdmcowbud, yes01:33
cowbudxamdm: did you check in the mixer settings to see if your mic is set as the recording device and not muted?01:33
xamdmcowbud, if i unmute it i can here myself in my speekers01:34
Tuxicitykent, indeed o_O01:34
cowbudxamdm: ok well does it record when you do that?01:34
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stianhkent, it's april first!01:34
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xamdmcowbud, no01:35
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cowbudxamdm: have you tried with gnome-sound-recorder?01:35
xamdmcowbud, jes, it doesn't ...01:35
MaRk-Itesting01:35
MaRk-Ianyone readme?01:35
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deFryskMaRk-I, cannot read you01:36
xamdmcowbud, if heared that there are more people having this problem in hoar01:36
xamdmy01:36
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cowbudxamdm: do a lsmod | grep oss01:36
cowbuddoes that return anything?01:36
MaRk-Istianh, deFrysk, thanks I momentarily hooked my router back to see if it would keep the connection (no luck)01:36
xamdmcowbud, i am using alsa01:36
cowbudxamdm: yah well skype doesn't...01:37
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xamdmcowbud, but alsa-oss01:37
cowbudALSA is more modern than OSS. Currently, Skype does not natively support ALSA, so you will need to install ALSA OSS emulation layer in order to use ALSA devices in Skype.01:37
karloshi all ... I have a quick question regarding cd-rom permissions if I may01:37
cowbudso did you do a modprobe snd-pcm-oss and modprobe snd-mixer-oss as the website says?01:37
xamdmcowbud, boh are loaded01:38
xamdmboth, typing to fast :-)01:38
zzyberMy ide disk have died and im about to get a new one but i found a scsi card adaptec 2940ultra wide in my storage and i wounder, should i go for a scsi disk and what is the advantages and disadvantages with scsi. Its probably all about scsi vs ide01:38
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karlosHow do I change the default permissions..ie..whenever I copy a file from cd I have to change the write permissions anyone know how to change it??01:39
cowbudxamdm: then unfortunately I got nothing it is working for me..01:39
xamdmcowbud, warty ore hoary ??01:39
apokryphoskarlos: sure. Check out chown and chmod commands01:39
cowbudxamdm: hoary..01:39
xamdmcowbud, damn, its a sblive01:40
MaRk-Ianyone has an idea why my eth0 wont connect to my router??? (which previously did with dif distro)01:40
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cowbudxamdm: ytah me too :)01:40
cowbudxamdm: let me check a few things out hold on..01:40
xamdmcowbud, i dont't understand it, in warty it worked fine01:40
Tuxicitykarlos, use the command "chmod" to modify permissions01:40
cowbudxamdm: wtf is the skype call back? so I can echo it out?01:40
karloscheers a: is there any docs regarding that built in01:40
kev0raaah, the updates messed up my media player abileties01:40
kev0rcannot play Avi's no more!01:40
apokryphoskarlos: Yup, the man page. Just man <command>01:40
xamdmcowbud, ??01:40
karlosmany thanks01:41
xamdmcowbud, my skype-nick is zameron01:41
kev0rThe program '.' received an X Window System error.01:41
kev0rThis probably reflects a bug in the program.01:41
kev0rthat's VLC's command line output01:41
cowbudxamdm: when you run skype in a terminal does it give any errors when you load it?01:41
xamdmcowbud, a second ...01:42
xamdmcomfrey, no01:42
xamdmcowbud, no01:42
cowbudhrmm01:43
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cowbudxamdm: odd and skype decided to be lame and not dial out at the moment..01:43
yoguihello01:43
cowbudxamdm: i'll be around and I will mess with it if I find anything ill ping you..01:43
yoguiis someone could help me01:43
yoguiabout apache2/php/mysql ?01:44
xamdmcowbud, if i uncheck the recording on music it doesn't record the music anymore, but microfone still does't work01:44
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cowbudfirsty I need to find out why my skype stopped wanting to dial out..01:44
cowbudxamdm: do you have microphone checked to record?01:44
ruffianHi: I keep getting this error during apt-get install : ** (process:12513): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_d esktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed01:44
xamdmcowbud, yes ;-)01:44
ruffianAnyone know how to fix it?01:44
cowbudxamdm: in the gnome-mixer blah do you have the OSS mixer selected?01:44
zubialis there any possibility to choose one of the network profiles before booting? At work I have a fixed IP but at home a dhcp-rooter. So each time I come home or go to work, the booting process takes quite some time when trying to find the network settings...01:45
xamdmcowbud, no, alsa01:45
xamdmcowbud, im using kmix01:45
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cowbudxamdm: hrmm not familiar with kmix but look at the oss settings and see if there is anything there.. or can you go to the oss?01:46
yoguihow instal php4-mysql package please ?01:46
yoguii'm a newbie01:46
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cowbudyogui: use synaptic..01:46
yoguiyes01:47
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yoguibus the pakage isn't in th elist01:47
black_Nightmarehey there01:47
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xamdmcowbud, kmix only uses alsa if alsa is present, i look in gnome-volume-contrl01:47
cowbudyogui: sudo su and look in /etc/apt/sources.list01:47
cowbudxamdm: ok I am trying to figure out why skype decided to be lame..01:47
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black_Nightmarewould it be kernel and/or distro driver related if you was trying to make a custom interface to an already-present port?01:48
yoguiok i try this01:48
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cowbudyogui: see if universe is enabled..01:48
xamdmcowbud, i changed the settings in the oss-mixer-pane from the gnome-volume-control, but it didn't change anything ...01:49
yoguiwhow ?01:49
cowbudyogui: you see "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe"? is there a # in front of it if so remove it and do a apt-get update or a update in synaptic..01:49
Dalkusxamdm, You've made sure it's not muted and whatnot?01:50
yoguiok i make this01:50
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xamdmDalkus, jes, it is not muted01:50
xamdmDalkus, i can here it in Boxes01:51
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Tuxicityyogui, apt-get install php4-mysql01:51
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yoguioki01:51
cowbudxamdm: wow I don't know wtf is going on skype doesn't want to call out at all let me check winblows on my laptop..01:52
cowbudyogui: ok now try to install the package..01:52
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yoguidont work01:52
davegahanxcan some help me how to mount a ntfs volume on hoary, managed to see it in the filemgr but cant mount it due to a an fstab line error01:52
cowbudyogui: error being?01:52
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cowbuddavegahanx: paste your fstab..01:52
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yoguiE: Impossible de verrouiller /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Ressource temporairement non disponible)01:52
yoguiE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:52
davegahanxmount point does not exist01:52
yoguifrench version sorry ;-)01:53
cowbuddavegahanx: no the actual line..01:53
davegahanxmnt/xp01:53
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sal002What package do I neeed to install to develop X11 programs?  configure says X11 is not installed?01:53
snowblinkyogui, close synaptic01:53
cowbudyogui: you have something installing or running like apt-get or synaptic..01:53
davegahanx/dev/hda1 /mnt/xp ntfs ro,auto,user,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 001:53
cowbuddavegahanx: does /mnt/xp exist?01:53
black_Nightmaresal..just a quick thought but try 'apt-get X11' and 'apt-get X11-dev' ?01:53
xamdmcowbud, same problem in TeamSPeak01:53
itayI install tuxkart and tuxracer, but they didn't apear in the K menu. why?01:53
yoguiyes synaptic was running01:53
black_NightmareI'm not on my pc right now [which is linux-running] 01:53
itayeven after restart of X01:53
davegahanxsorry how do i check that ?01:53
cowbudyogui: and how did you try to install the package?01:53
yoguidon't found the package01:53
davegahanxsorry01:53
davegahanxcomplete newbiw01:53
cowbuddavegahanx: ls -ld  /mnt/xp01:53
davegahanxthank u01:54
Xappedavegahanx: you have to create the mountpoint before mounting :)01:54
cowbudxamdm: hrmm...weird..skype doesn;t want to work buyt gnome-sound-recorder records what I say and stuff..01:54
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yoguicowbud : apt-get install php4-mysql01:54
cowbuddavegahanx: if it isn't there just mkdir it :)01:54
davegahanxright01:54
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Tuxicityyogui, by the way, i meant "sudo apt-get install php4-mysql". I forgot "sudo".01:55
cowbudyogui: yah you have to locse synaptic when doing htat..01:55
davegahanxhow do i create that one ?01:55
cowbuddavegahanx: sudo mkdir /mnt/xp01:55
zzyberhow about loudness scsi vs ide?01:55
Xappedavegahanx: sudo mkdir /mnt/xp01:55
yoguicowbud : synaptic is closed01:55
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stianhWhere can I look for the audiodevice/server in a normal warty install?01:55
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yoguituxicity : same error01:55
davegahanxyes01:55
davegahanxthanks01:55
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cowbudxamdm: ahh found my skype problem I had perlbox-voice running :) so yah mine works are you in the audio group and all that good stuff?01:56
solidapei have a question: how do i installed downloaded software? i have it in deb- and rpm-format....01:56
cowbudyogui: and you did sudo and you still get the same error?01:56
yoguiyes01:56
MafusI just did a new install of Ubuntu and all went smoothly, and then ive rebooted and its started doing its running for the first time, i told it to update from the internet and it did its thing.. i come back a few hours later and its waiting at the xserver (?) driver selection screen.. i have an ATI Radeon x800 Pro so i chose the ATI driver.. now my GUI wont load and it takes me straight to command line.. startx results in a ton of error message01:56
yoguiE: Impossible de trouver le paquet php4-mysql01:56
cowbudyogui: past your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood01:56
davegahanxmount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /mnt/xp busy01:57
davegahanxmount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /mnt/xp01:57
yoguiif you understand frech ;-)01:57
cowbudpast/paste01:57
davegahanxdoesnt mount still01:57
cowbuddavegahanx: df -h and see if it is mounted and where..01:57
cowbudor just df :)01:57
Albackerdavehanx, it's mounted01:57
Mafusanyone know how i could go about getting a GUI running?01:57
Albackerdavehanx, it says it's moundet in /mnt/xp01:57
yoguicowbud : How do i make this ?01:57
MaRk-Iis it Hoary pretty stable??01:57
Tuxicitysolidape, did you search for your software in Synaptic first?01:57
Albackerdavegahanx, **01:57
sal002Is there an xord-dev package?01:57
Albackerdavegahanx, cd /mnt/xp01:58
davegahanxyes01:58
sal002err...xorg-dev01:58
solidapetuxi: yes i did...01:58
davegahanx/dev/hda1             24732032  15819872   8912160  64% /mnt/xp01:58
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cowbudyogui: join #flood and in a terminal type cat /etc/apt/sources.list highligh it then middle click when looking in the #flood channel01:58
sal002(apt-cache search didn't find one)01:58
cowbuddavegahanx: so it is mounted..what happens when you cd to the directory?01:58
Tuxicitysolidape, oh then type "sudo dpkg -i packagename"01:58
itaywhat should I do?01:58
solidapemafus: maybe try the reconfigure program?01:58
Albackerdavegahanx, ls -l /mnt/xp01:58
davegahanxi click in the file manager on the volume01:58
Mafushow do i do that? this is my first linux installtion01:59
itaywhy the icons don't apear in the menu after installing them?01:59
davegahanxtrying to import my mailfiles into evolution01:59
itay(the softwares)01:59
yoguicowbud : thats made01:59
solidapesudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:59
Dalkusitay, it depends on the software, and the way in which you isntalled them01:59
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cowbudyogui: yah see the # in front of the universe stuff remove it then do a apt-get update01:59
Dalkusif you used dpkg or apt-get then generally they will appear in the menus, itay01:59
solidapebut i'm a total newbie aswell, but that mmight do it for ya01:59
davegahanxbash: cd: mnt/xp: No such file or directory01:59
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Albackerdavegahanx, not mnt/xp but /mnt/xp02:00
cowbudxamdm: you still alive or did you give upo? :)02:00
black_Nightmareughh...stupid menu02:00
sal002solidape: That doesn't give the dev files need to compile other apps (like pearpc)02:00
MaRk-Isudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:00
davegahanxsorry cant see a difference ?02:00
itayI install with apt-get.02:00
davegahanxoh02:00
itaythey don't apear with apt-get?02:01
davegahanxok02:01
Albackerdavegahanx, you typed. cd mnt/xp but it should be /mnt/xp02:01
Dalkusitay, they *do* appear with apt-get :) Which package did you isntall?02:01
Albackerdavegahanx, with the slash before.02:01
davegahanxyes i can go in the directory02:01
itaytuxkart02:01
itaytuxracer02:01
Albackerdavegahanx, sure you can :D02:01
davegahanxmade a dir and it listst the contents02:01
smoucheitay, with some things you need to log-out and in again to see them in the menus02:01
Dalkusyou've looked over the whole menu? Sometimes games are dumped in the games menu, sometimes in the other menu02:01
itaythey don't apear in the K menu in games02:01
davegahanx:)02:01
itayI have alreay restarted02:02
black_NightmareI think some programs/games actually run from the terminal line don't they?02:02
davegahanxso why cant i mount the drive in filemanager ?02:02
black_Nightmarelikewise I was wondering the heck where basiliskII was but then I soon found it was supposed to be started from terminal so there02:02
Dalkusblack_Nightmare, well, if its not got a GUI then it has to, dosnt it :P02:02
Albackerdavegahanx, what do you mean ? what do you want to do ?02:02
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black_Nightmaredalkus....just be quiet :p02:02
black_Nightmarehehe02:02
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black_Nightmarehmm that reminds me now...02:03
davegahanxi click on the the xp drive icon in "computer" in file manager02:03
davegahanxget a message cannot mount the volume02:03
Tuxicityitay, just type "tuxkart" in Konsole...02:03
black_NightmareI need to figure a compact end for my yet-underway custom kernel....02:03
davegahanxi just want to transfer my windows mail and documents02:04
Albackerdavegahanx, you can do that by terminal.02:04
solidapei need help installing stuff from deb or rpm-files...02:04
davegahanxalright02:04
davegahanxi have to teach myself tonight02:04
davegahanxis it not possible to do it through gnomw02:04
Tuxicitysolidape, i told you, "sudo dpkg -i packagename"02:04
Tuxicitysolidape, actually "sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb"02:05
solidapeand then it will install?02:05
Xappedavegahanx: well, you should be able to browse to /mnt/xp and copy02:05
itayTuxicity, yes but I want new softwares to apear in the menu02:05
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Tuxicitysolidape, it should02:05
solidapecool, trying it now02:06
MafusIm running 4.10 Ubuntu for the first time and my GUI has failed to load and im given a bunch of errors about skipping files because symbols arent found and finally i get "(EE) no devices detected" and im dumped into command line.. anyone know how to get my GUI working?02:06
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Tuxicityitay, add it manually then. right-click in kmenu and add an entry for each02:06
Dr_AevilMafus: you need to read the output log to see exactly what the error was02:07
Mafusits longer than a screen length02:07
TuxicityMafus, ya, seems to be xfree though. did you install binary drivers?02:08
Dr_AevilMafus: that's why I said read the log... e..g open it with less02:08
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itayso I should do it for every softwares I will install?02:08
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Tuxicityitay, just the ones that do not appear automatically02:08
Mafusi just left everything with default as it was in the install except i changed me xserver driver to ATI because i have an x800 pro02:09
jerome^_^Dr_Aevil: where is the output log (friend of Mafus) ?02:09
Dr_Aevilshould be /var/log/XFree86.0.log02:09
jerome^_^kool02:10
itayok. thanks02:10
TuxicityMafus, must have something to do with xfree/fglrx02:10
Mafusim reading it now02:10
Mafusso far02:10
MaRk-Ijava is 14MB!!! holy molly02:10
Mafusit cant find a font02:10
Dr_Aevillook towards the bottom, ignore hte font path errors02:11
solidapetuxicity:thanks for the help02:11
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MafusAPM cant be found02:11
Tuxicitysolidape: ur welcome02:12
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Mafusno directory found apm_bios02:12
UBabegtg bbs02:12
delirehah cute. enjoy: http://www.openpuppets.com/en/index.php02:12
delireMafus: what's up?02:13
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alfatau_hi, any snmpd user? i want to configure snmpd to be able to send a trap when disk space ends. can you help me?02:14
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Dalkustuxkart: ssgBase.cxx:78: virtual ssgBase::~ssgBase(): Assertion `refc == 0' failed.02:15
DalkusHow'd I fix that?02:15
Mafusok here are some problems:02:15
Mafus"Loading /user/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a02:15
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Mafusthen i get 3 skipping messages in that directory for no symbols found on02:16
cowbudUBabe: joseph! :)02:16
Mafusm_debug_clip.o02:16
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Mafusm_debug_clip.o02:16
Mafusm_debug_norm.o02:16
Mafusm_debug_xform.o02:16
Mafusm_debug_vertex.o02:16
UBabeheheh Cowbud! dude :)02:16
cowbud;)02:16
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black_Nightmareubabe - remember I was kinda cursing about the cdrw issue?02:17
UBabeHwoa!02:17
cowbudlook who is popular02:17
Dr_AevilMafus: go to where it failed, then look at the messages before that - that'll be what it actually failed on02:17
UBabeblack nightmare, yeah twas early in the morning, but yeah02:17
MaRk-Ianyone know the default /.mozilla/plugins location??02:17
Dr_AevilMafus: you said it failed in the device section, so it will prob be your graphics card driver etc02:17
scizzoMaRk-I: /usr/share/mozilla ??02:18
adobbieMaRk-I: are you asking for the system-wide location?02:18
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black_Nightmareubabe ~ I'm sure its a ubuntu bug for maybe trying to mount a unknown disc format but refusing to stop that and so trapping the drive in.  because as soon as I rebooted the cdrw was free and as a test I put in the ubuntu installer cd and it picked that up right away and let me unmount/eject that just fine02:18
xamdmMaRk-I, /usr/lib/mozilla ore mozilla-firefox02:18
black_Nightmaremaybe we need something like 'kill cdrw read' to fix this issue02:18
black_Nightmare:)02:18
UBabehehehe02:18
Mafushere's some more:02:18
MaRk-Ithanks , adobbie don't know I'm installing the java plug in that's what the instructions say but cant find it02:19
black_Nightmareubabe..I'm serious...you see how the cdrw refused to listen at all until I rebooted it (which by then ubuntu had lost control of it)02:19
black_Nightmareso there02:19
MaRk-Isudo mv j2re-1_4_2_05 /usr/local/02:19
MaRk-Icd /home/username/.mozilla/plugins02:19
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MafusATI: PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected! and same with slow 1:0:102:19
cowbudblack_Nightmare: fuser will tell you what processes are using a specific device and you can kill them...02:19
alfatauhi, any snmpd user? i want to configure snmpd to be able to send a trap when disk space ends. can you help me?02:20
black_Nightmarehmm... is that a program name? 'fuser' that is02:20
Mafusthats definately a video card driver issue02:20
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cowbudblack_Nightmare: yes it is man fuser ...02:20
Mafusduring my install when it told me to select the driver it was defaulted on "vesa" i think.. i changed it to ati... should i try changing it back to vesa?02:21
delireMafus: are you using fglrx?02:21
Dr_Aevilblack_Nightmare: it's not a bug....it just means something was using the drive02:21
Mafusi have no idea02:21
delireMafus: it is an ati card no?02:21
Mafusyes x800 Pro02:21
black_Nightmareaevil..so why did the right-click menu only show 'mount' and 'eject'02:21
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Mafusbut it isnt listed under the cards that the ati driver shows02:21
darren_Has anyone managed to get ndiswrapper working?02:21
black_Nightmaresurely if it was trying to read the disc it would have shown a 'unmount' command instead02:21
black_Nightmareknow what I'm saying?02:21
delireMafus: ok i'd head off to ati.com/linux and download the latest driver. it's an rpm so convert it to a *.deb using 'alien'.02:21
MaRk-Iwth??? this Aprils fool thing arrghhhh02:22
black_Nightmarecowbud..ok I'll look into that when I go over to my pc ;)02:22
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ioC`is there a gui frontend for yaboot ?02:22
MaRk-Ican someone check a web page for me??02:22
Mafusok so download it on this computer.. transfer to computer with linux.. convert it02:22
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MaRk-Inever mind ggrrrr02:23
delireMafus: then install it with 'sudo dpkg -i fglrx...*.deb' at which point it will be installed into /lib/modules/fglrx. then cd in to /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/ and 'sh make.sh'. cd up a level into fglrx/ and 'sh make_install.sh'02:23
Dr_Aevilblack_Nightmare: never mind what the right click context menu shows, what is important is what mount shows at the time02:23
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Dr_Aevilblack_Nightmare: and even then, the problem is no doubt with gnome somewhere02:23
Mafusok thanks ill try that02:23
delireMafus: are you on the ubuntu machine now?02:24
ex0rtHi, Having problems listening to streams with Music Player. It has a tendency to crash everytime I try and listen to a stream. Any ideas what is wrong?02:24
delireex0rt: what crashes?02:24
UBabeanyone know much about how to run .jar files from terminal?02:24
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Mafusno im on a windows machine right now.. i cant get my GUI to load at all on my linux machine02:24
black_Nightmareaevil...yeah...but then umm..if it was already attempting to read the disc then why would it show only 'mount' and not 'unmount' in the rightclick? hmm...know what nevermind I think thats a stupid question lol02:24
cowbudUBabe: ahh yes I remember this issue with you what are you trying to run?02:24
cowbudUBabe: lets kill that problem...02:24
delireMafus: ahah 'Music Player' is an application.. sorry never used it02:24
ex0rtdelire: "Music Player"02:24
delire;)02:25
delireMafus: oops, wrong person02:25
UBabecowbud: trying to run jtunes from terminal02:25
delireex0rt: right, never used it.. soz02:25
xamdmUBabe, java -jar filename02:25
Mafushow do i know what version of x-windows im running?02:25
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ex0rtdelire: So there are alternatives?02:25
UBabewhats -jar is that a parameter i may have had missing?02:25
solidapeanyone know what "ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument " might mean?02:25
delireMafus: XFree86 -version02:26
Hmmmmhi guys i nee a little urgent help02:26
black_Nightmarehmm that reminds me...02:26
kbrookshm02:26
black_Nightmarewhats xfree's website if there's one?02:26
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cowbudSolatis: you bother googling that? :)02:26
delireex0rt: many. see 'xmms' or 'helixplayer'02:26
Hmmmmi have shared a folder from my linux box and want someone on my network to see it from a windows box02:26
xamdmUBabe, its a parameter for java (sun-java) to run jar-files02:26
Hmmmmcowbud, can u pls help me?02:26
MaRk-Ihttp://www.xfree.org/   ??02:26
ex0rtdelire: Will do, thanks.02:27
Mafushow do i get out of "less"ing this log file?02:27
kbrooksq02:27
black_Nightmarejeeze... mark-I I tell you sometimes I'm a bit too stupid to keep trying *.com 's02:27
delireex0rt: xmms.org02:27
cowbudHmmmm: you look in System->Administration->Shared Folders?02:27
black_NightmareI need to remind myself that *.org exists sometimes LOL02:27
TuxicityHmmmm, ubuntuguide.org explains this02:27
cowbudHmmmm: frmo the gnome menu?02:27
cowbudTuxicity: that also :)02:27
delireHmmmm: you should also see if you can get help in #samba02:27
MaRk-Iblack_Nightmare, eh no worries happens02:27
xamdmUBabe, maybe u should try tunesbrowser instead :-)02:27
scizzoMafus: press q02:27
Bazziblack_Nightmare welcome to free software02:27
delireHmmmm: this is a channel that specifically addresses such topics02:27
Hmmmmi cant access this box locally02:27
black_Nightmaremark-I tyanks anyhow...I'm just trying to figure some kind of possible frontend for a custom kernel anyhow ;)02:27
Hmmmmi only have comand line access02:27
black_Nightmarebazzi :p02:28
Hmmmmiv edited the smb.conf02:28
Tuxicitycowbud, system doesnt exist in Warty...02:28
cowbudHmmmm: did you restart samba after you did that>?02:28
UBabexadm, tunes browser??02:28
Hmmmmi can access it over the network fmo al inux box02:28
cowbudTuxicity: damn :)02:28
Hmmmmbut for windows it asks for a passwork02:28
Hmmmmusername and pass02:28
scizzoHmmmm: yes02:28
UBabexamdm(typo sorry!) tunes browser??02:28
scizzoHmmmm: add the user to the smbpassword stuff02:28
xamdmUBabe, jou are trying to lissen to a itunes stream aren't jou ??02:28
delireHmmmm: then you have smbpasswd defined in your smb.conf02:28
MaRk-Iblack_Nightmare, http://www.illwillpress.com/vault.html  <<< check the one that says tech support that'll be # 14 (if you have flash installed)02:28
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Hmmmmhow can i make it passwordless?02:29
scizzoHmmmm: change the type02:29
xamdmUBabe, http://crazney.net/programs/itunes/tunesbrowser.html02:29
scizzoHmmmm: please read the things on www.samba.org02:29
scizzoHmmmm: you will find information there that is useful...02:29
Hmmmmscizzo, pls just help me get this going its a lil urgent02:29
solidapewhat the hell does "ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument" mean?02:29
Hmmmmi will erad the docs02:29
Hmmmmbut i need a quick fix right now02:30
Hmmmm:(02:30
cowbudSolidape when is it happening?02:30
scizzoHmmmm: then change the directory to public02:31
Hmmmmi have02:31
TuxicityHmmmm, u set "public = yes" in smb.conf ?02:32
ex0rtRight, trying to compile XMMS here from source but when I do a ./configure apparently GLIB is not installed.02:32
solidapecowbud: trying to install win4linPRO02:32
Hmmmmbut it still asks for PASSWD02:32
cowbudsolidape: hrmm yah I got nothing there sorry :)02:32
mopfliteex0rt: why try to compile it from source?02:32
scizzoHmmmm: add the user to the system02:32
mopfliteapt-get install xmms02:32
Tuxicityex0rt, apt-get install xmms02:32
HmmmmTuxicity, where do i do that?02:33
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delireit as I have a 4 week python/blender/game workshop to give here in May02:33
delirethat i couldn't get out of.02:33
delireeek..02:33
deliredidn't mean to do that02:33
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Hmmmm   public = yes02:33
sal002Are there not the standard X11 headers installed with the xserver-xorg package?02:33
Hmmmmyes i did02:33
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kentCan some one explain why I can hear music with totem etc in Hoary,  but if i try Ubuntu Device Database, then I cant hear any sound. It feels wrong to press the button for no sound, since sound actually works for me in all other programs :(02:33
scizzoHmmmm: add the user then smbpasswd -a username02:33
Hmmmmscizzo, but if i want to make it a passwordless share can i do that?02:34
Hmmmm;   valid users = fred02:34
Hmmmmwhat do i do with this?02:34
ex0rthttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/kiJ4zf26.html02:34
DalkXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".02:34
Dalkglxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.02:34
DalkHow can I fix this please?02:34
PacoBCNDalk, I had the same problems in the last days02:35
PacoBCNDalk, running nvidia drivers?02:35
DalkYeah02:35
DalkI was trying to enable direct rendering02:35
Hmmmmit says "guest ok = no"02:35
PacoBCNsure you have them loaded?02:35
Hmmmmdo i make that a yes?02:35
ex0rtTuxicity: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/kiJ4zf26.html02:35
Dalkdid a few ln -fs 'es and i got these errors02:35
scizzoHmmmm: remove the comments and tell it to be yes02:36
scizzothen restart samba02:36
DalkPacoBCN, What did you do to fix?02:36
PacoBCNDalk, for some reason at every reboot my xorg.conf deleted the nvidia load and put nv again02:36
PacoBCNDalk, honestly? waiting developers to update their packages02:37
Tuxicityscizzo, i believe "guest ok" and "public" are synonyms, right?02:37
PacoBCNDalk, and it worked02:37
DalkSo... should I reinstall my drivers?02:37
PacoBCNDalk, also there was no restricted modules for 686 kernel02:37
scizzoTuxicity: I have no idea02:37
PacoBCNDalk, at the end they seem to have fixed it all02:37
PacoBCNwell, try enabling them again02:37
black_Nightmareany of you know a bit about mac printers?02:37
PacoBCNDalk, I guess you have already done it, right?02:37
DalkNot yet (if your talking about reinstilation)02:38
black_Nightmarehm nevermind anyhow ;)02:38
PacoBCNno, just nvidia-glx-config enable02:38
ex0rtTuxicity, mopflite: I have done exactly what you both have said but I am recieving errors. http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/kiJ4zf26.html02:38
Tuxicityex0rt, i dont know, maybe XMMS is in the Universe/Multiverse repository. if so, add it.02:39
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delireex0rt: you need to add the Universe repo02:39
delireISTR02:40
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marianohey please help02:40
kenthmm, is it a Ubuntu Hoary specific thing that nautilus now opens new windows and closes the parent? Its kind of disturbing :(02:40
Tuxicitykent, Edit-->preferences02:41
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Tuxicitykent,  -->behaviour(tab)02:41
deliremariano: what's up?02:41
marianooh thanks for answering02:41
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marianojust installed ubuntu x8602:41
Tuxicitykent,  check "always open in browser windows"02:41
deliremariano: ok, what's the problem?02:41
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marianobut doesn't detect the sound hw02:42
marianosound blaster awe02:42
kentdelire, well, for me Im kind of happy that they dont use the nvidia/ati drivers out of the box, since My tnt2-card and X with nvidia dont get along. It makes X go crazy :(02:42
marianowhat to do now, delire?02:42
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PacoBCNwow, I see my name typing and it's not me "mariano" :)02:42
marianoooops02:43
ex0rtTuxicity, delire: Ok thanks. Just added the other repositories. Will give it a go now.02:43
marianosorry02:43
delirekent: they seemed to have solved that somehow. i have the same setup on one machine02:43
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Tuxicityex0rt, oki02:43
deliremariano: so no sound? have you tried playing some sound? do you get an error?02:43
black_NightmareI'm going switch to my pc but someone mind pass a link to me as soon as I come back?02:43
marianono sound hardware found, it sez02:44
deliremariano: ok.. do you have the Ubuntu desktop in front of you?02:44
marianoyes02:44
Tuxicityblack_Nightmare, hey ur canadian :)02:44
marianoyes, delire02:44
black_Nightmare*POKES tuxicity*02:45
deliremariano: cool. can you type 'lspci' for me in a console/terminal?.. find it under System02:45
black_Nightmare:p02:45
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deliremariano: when you do tell me what it says for "audio controller"02:45
marianook02:46
marianojust nothing, delire02:46
marianoethernet, vga, etc, but no audio controller at all02:46
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totohi02:47
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deliremariano: ok..02:47
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marianoaplay -l says me no soudcards found02:47
ikarohellas02:47
deliremariano: are you sure you even have a sound card? lspci lists all hardware detected on the machine.02:48
deliremariano: sorry PCI hardware02:48
marianoahah02:48
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deliremariano: to be sure, you might want to 'lspci | grep audio'02:48
marianothat's it02:48
marianomy soundcard is ISA type02:48
marianois an old soundblaster awe02:48
deliremariano: right.. an old one yeah?02:49
marianoyes, delire02:49
black_Nightmaremariano...eh.. I'm still having trouble getting M-Y card to work...lol02:49
marianothat's it, sorry i didn't mention it before02:49
deliremariano: ok try this 'sudo modprobe -l | grep isa'02:49
deliremariano: do you get any output?02:49
black_Nightmarecreative soundblaster 16 CT2230 [isa as well..seem to be pnp under 98se but somehow linux isn't picking it up] 02:49
black_Nightmare:p02:49
invictushow can I get the source of the default hoary kernel?02:50
black_Nightmaremariano..seem we're on almost the same ship aren't we?02:50
delirei think you guys need an ISA controller02:50
black_Nightmaredelire....I already have one in device manager02:50
deliremodprobe -l | grep isa02:50
black_Nightmarebut the card is not even appearing or so at all02:50
deliresee if there's one available02:50
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delireok..02:50
black_Nightmarehmm delire..let me try that grep02:50
marianoyes, modprobe gives me a list02:50
black_Nightmareoh wait...my pc isn't on doh02:50
black_Nightmare*sigh*02:50
marianoare we, black_Nightmare?02:51
delireyou may need to look at compiling a module allowing you to use ISA devices, if the stock Ubuntu kernel doesn't provide it02:51
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=== delire notes ISA hardware is very rarely used these days in Desktops
black_Nightmarelet me quit this xchat and start up my pc02:51
marianoyes delire, you're right02:51
black_Nightmaredelire..industrial motherboards still carry multiply isa slots even with a P4 processor too02:52
marianobut... i love this card! :)02:52
delireblack_Nightmare: yes, as do several server boards02:52
black_Nightmaresoyo makes one P4 board for up to 3.04ghz and it supports three isa slots02:52
delirebut rarely are they *used02:52
black_Nightmareanyhow bbl to my own pc :p02:52
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marianois there any reason to buy and use an ISA card, except this kind of love i have for mine?02:53
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xamdmmariano, none, isa is dead02:54
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deliremariano: not really. even new boards that have ISA slots usually have an onboard audio controller that outperforms the old ISA cards02:54
marianoi supposed thath, xamdm02:54
deliremariano: that said we can get your card working, with some effort though02:54
marianodo we?02:54
marianothanks a lot02:54
ex0rtIs it possible to use alternative Window Managers with Ubuntu, for example Fluxbox?02:54
xamdmwhat cind of card is it ??02:55
deliremariano: linux is famous for supporting such old hw, though just not in some of these modern Desktop distro's out of the box.02:55
xamdmex0rt, why not ??02:55
marianoits an ISA Sound Blaster AWE6402:55
=== MaRk-I brb rebooting
delireex0rt: yes.. look at openbox or wmi.modprobe.de02:55
xamdmmariano, that should work02:55
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marianoyes, it worked under Mandrake, but here... :(02:56
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PacoBCNGuys, does gnomemeeting work for you?02:56
black_nightmareok back on my pc now :p02:56
marianoit's such a peaceful sound card... :)02:56
PacoBCNIt doesn't on my pc02:56
black_nightmarecould you repeat that grep command again?02:56
deliremariano: black_nightmare: guys did you get any output from 'modprobe -l | grep isa'???02:56
rdw200169well, it's seems as though i've accomplished the impossible...02:57
PacoBCNI see it tries to use v4l2 while it should use vl402:57
delireex0rt: openbox is very good, though i use wmi now as my primary wm02:57
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marianoyes, delire02:57
ex0rtAny particular reason why? =)02:57
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da_bon_bonhttp://www.openpuppets.com/en/fondos/7.html ---> this looks UGLY! :P02:58
marianomodprobe gives a list of i-dont-know-what02:58
rdw200169are ubuntu developers going to make a 2.6.11.6+ kernel image for amd64?02:58
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deliremariano: what did you see? anything like isa.o?02:58
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MaRk-Ianyone know the pkg name so the Numlock stays on at boot??02:58
delirehehe02:58
black_nightmareI see a sb16.ko and so on in this list02:58
black_nightmarebut I don't see anything really helpful from that command at all02:59
delireblack_nightmare: any 'isa.o' or similar?02:59
marianoyes, delire, i see the same as black_Nightmare02:59
delireblack_nightmare: mariano: that command list all the modules (drivers) that relate to ISA support02:59
deliremariano: black_nightmare: but no 'isa.. something.o'02:59
marianook delire02:59
MaRk-Inever mind got it numlockx03:00
marianoeverything seems to be .ko, delire03:00
black_nightmarei2c-isa.ko and i2c-pca-isa.ko are the only closest thing I can find03:00
delireblack_nightmare: mariano: that's OK..03:00
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black_nightmarehm ok03:00
draskohi all. How to make midi work on sounblaster live!03:00
delireblack_nightmare: mariano: as root or using sudo do this: 'sudo modprobe sb16.ko'03:01
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deliredrasko: check this 'lsmod | grep midi'03:01
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delireblack_nightmare: mariano: any output from that? if that doesn't work, try the same but with i2c-isa.ko and then modprobe sb16.ko again03:02
marianonot found, delire03:02
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delireblack_nightmare: and you?03:02
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deliremariano: hmm ok.. was the sb16.ko not found?03:03
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MaRk-Iouch03:03
marianoyes, delire...should i take the module name from the grep results?03:04
deliremariano: yes definitely03:04
marianook, let me try03:04
marianoagain03:04
marianodoesn't mind the location of the module in root mode?03:04
deliremariano: no it knows where to look03:04
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marianook delire03:05
marianoso, why doesn't it found the module?03:05
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alleHi all03:05
marianoit seems i'm typing right03:05
draskodelire, ok, I can see snd_seq_midi, snd_seq_midi_emul, snd_emux_synth snd_virmidi, snd_seq_virmidi, snd_seq_midi_event, snd_seq, snd_seq_device snd03:06
marianosnd-sb16.ko it's the module's name03:06
zepticonhi... where do i sett the root pass in Ubuntu?03:06
scizzozepticon: use sudo03:07
alleI've installed Ubuntu on a computer illiterate family's computer since they were fed up with Windows, and it's more or less fine so far. But now they're getting fed up with Ubuntu, too, since I can't get their printer to work. I wondered if upgrading to Hoary could help, and how safe it is right now?03:07
scizzozepticon: sudo -s  will do almost the same as: su -03:07
deliredrasko: well then you have midi support.03:07
Bazzialle wait 1 week for hoary, then it's stable.03:08
adobbiealle: what printer is it?03:08
deliremariano: ok modprobe that03:08
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alleBazzi: I'll try. But they're really kind of angry right now :-)03:08
LeeJunFanalle: you might just need to get a better driver.03:08
da_bon_bonhttp://www.savetoby.com/ -- look -- XD03:08
delirezepticon: if you want a root password then 'sudo passwd root'03:08
alleadobbie: A Lexmark Z615 for which Lexmark provides CUPS drivers on its homepage.03:08
marianoerror insertin, delire: no such device03:09
alleLeeJunFan: There is only the one directly from Lexmark.03:09
adobbiealle: sounds easy03:09
deliremariano: ok fine. did you see anything with 'isa' in the ISA grep output?03:09
draskodelire, yes, but I don't hear anything when midi is played in Muse03:09
LeeJunFanalle: wow, I'm impressed at lexmark for the first time in my life.03:09
deliredrasko: try using aconnectgui03:09
adobbieI have an HP driver that requires you to load firmware into the printer03:09
adobbieit's a mega bitch to deal with03:10
marianoyes, delire, several modules seem to be under isa03:10
LeeJunFanalle: you might find a better one here though - http://www.linuxprinting.org/03:10
marianoshould i try all of them?03:10
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alleLeeJunFan, adobbie: It looks like the driver was installed correctly, and I can also set up the printer. But when I try to print something it just stays silent. What I find noteworthy, is that at boot time, the computer hangs when initializing USB stuff when the printer is plugged in.03:10
LeeJunFanalle: does the printer work at all when you try to print?03:10
alleNo03:10
alleI even tried a plain text driver03:10
alleNothing happens03:10
adobbiealle: did you follow all instructions?03:10
deliremariano: just try modprobing those modules until one loads (say i2c-isa.ko). then try modprobing the sb16.kop again03:10
marianomodprobe snd-sb-common did pass away, so03:10
marianook ok03:10
alleadobbie: I had thought it to be quite easy. So when it didn't work I read up on ubuntuguide.org and it appeared I had done nothing wrong.03:11
LeeJunFanalle: what if you do lsusb - does the printer show up?03:11
draskodelire, what to connect exactly?03:11
marianoi2c-isa loaded, delire03:11
adobbieBus 003 Device 002: ID 03f0:0517 Hewlett-Packard LaserJet 100003:11
adobbieshould see something like that03:11
deliredrasko: do you have it there? dos midi support show up?03:12
alleLeeJunFan: Positive, printer shows up as "Lexmark International, Inc."03:12
MaRk-Ioh no... my java plugin isnt workinggggggg03:12
MaRk-Igrrrr03:12
marianodelire: snd-sbawe seems to load03:12
LeeJunFanalle: and what status do you see with the printer if you run lpstat -t03:12
delireMaRk-I: java is an absolute arse. the best thing to do is follow the instructions exactly as they appear in the sun.com/java page03:12
marianohow do i test if it works03:12
draskodelire, no, it gives me segmentation fault, won't open... But I can try with aconnect...03:12
deliremariano: hah great03:12
marianoyeah great03:13
jerome^_^Hi guys, how do I mount a usb stick (FAT16 fs) from the command line ...03:13
MaRk-Idelire, hhmm I used the instructions from "ubuntu" page...03:13
=== MaRk-I go figure
falkarmariano?03:13
falkaritaliano?03:13
marianoyes falkar03:13
falkarah .)03:14
marianono, spanish, falkar03:14
falkarpurio :)03:14
falkar:|03:14
falkarasd :|03:14
falkarsorry :|03:14
black_nightmaresorry was away for breakfast :p03:14
alleLeeJunFan: "Accepting requests since blah. Printer blah is idle."03:14
draskodelire, I have emu10k1 uart and 4 emu10k1 ports... Also I have 4 virtual ports... What is all this suppose to be and how to connect?03:14
alleLeeJunFan: Is there a console command to print something?03:14
black_nightmareany of you know if an all-scsi system (except for the disk drive) would certainally not need any of the ide kernel stuffs?03:14
LeeJunFanalle: cat /usr/share/cups/data/testprint.ps | lp03:14
PacoBCNsomos dos los marianos y en Espaa, veo :)03:14
PacoBCNSorry, that was all03:15
LeeJunFanalle: will try to print the testpage.03:15
alleLeeJunFan: "request id is Z600-v1.0-1-65 (1 file(s))", but in the real world nothing happens.03:15
black_nightmarehm anyone? :p03:15
LeeJunFanalle: now does lpstat -t show anything?03:15
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alleLeeJunFan: Same as before. Also says "Ready to print" now at the end.03:16
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draskodelire, There are outputs -- client 64: 'EMU10K1 MPU-401 (UART) - Rawmidi 0' [type=kernel] , client 65: 'Emu10k1 WaveTable' [type=kernel]  -- what's the difference here?03:16
allealle: When I do lpstat -t right after the lp command, it says "printer blah now printing blah-0"03:16
LeeJunFanalle: sorry man - but I've really gotta get ready for work. But I'll be back probably in an hour or so.03:16
alleDamn.03:17
alleWell, should be able to wait an hour.03:17
alleOr do you have any ideas left adobbie?03:17
adobbieuse CUPS03:17
marianodelire: how i get this driver loaded forever?03:17
alleadobbie: I thought I WAS using CUPS?03:17
draskodelire, for input I have client 64: 'EMU10K1 MPU-401 (UART) - Rawmidi 0' [type=kernel]  -- what's that suppose to be?03:17
adobbieand read all you can on the linux printing site03:17
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az[a] zel_ubuntuis the latest ubuntu hoary builds supposed to have a graphical splash screen during boot? if so, how do I enable this (I am using my own bootloader from a different linux install.. not GRUB)03:19
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lewwywell i just updated hoary, so...03:19
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kentaz[a] zel_ubuntu, hoary will not use a boot splash. its hoary+103:20
az[a] zel_ubuntukent, ah ok03:20
lewwyanything that is worth noticing after updating hoary?03:21
xamdmhoary+1 ??03:21
az[a] zel_ubuntumiss piggy03:21
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roo_lewwy, Xorg :)03:21
Tuxicityo_O03:22
az[a] zel_ubuntuI'm pulling down 300MB of updates for hoary now, hope something has noticeably changed :) though I don't know what.. haven't found many bugs03:22
roo_lewwy, wait, i thought u said upgraded _to_ hoary. oops.03:22
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lewwyyeh i got 300mb's worth of updates just now03:22
lewwyofcourse, first appearences = not much difference03:22
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az[a] zel_ubuntuthe little update tool pops up in my system tray, so I just let it go03:23
black_nightmaresorry for spamming again but noticed a lot of new people coming in... any of you know if its worthy deleting the ide stuffs from a kernel when you know its going to be a scsi-only system?03:23
lewwybut underlying i think stability will improve03:23
draskojoin #muse03:23
GNAMapril 8 HOARY FINAL!03:23
GNAMfirst was april 603:23
roo_black_nightmare, are u running a server or desktop?03:24
black_nightmareroo_ laptop actually ;)03:24
az[a] zel_ubuntuim going to be switching from mandrake to ubuntu once hoary is final I think03:24
lewwymeh...see, what i want to know is what will be the difference between my _updated_ hoary and that.  i mean, not like theres gonna be massive differences03:24
black_nightmarewant figure toward making a custom kernel for it alone ;)03:24
GNAMwhat's the difference in ubuntu server install?03:24
az[a] zel_ubuntuthough im considering the x86 version over the AMD64 version, just for easy compatibility03:24
GNAMno gnome?03:24
black_nightmareits scsi 2.5" hd and a disk drive -- nothing else in this laptop03:24
roo_black_nightmare, if everything works i dont see a problem. you could stop the ide modules from being loaded i suppose.03:25
black_nightmareroo_ well the laptop is quite old..not much hd and ram altogether03:25
roo_black_nightmare, "lsmod | grep ide"03:25
black_nightmareso I'm trying prune down as far as I can go03:25
roo_black_nightmare, any output to that?03:25
black_nightmareumm the laptop isn't running....03:26
black_nightmareI'm trying use my older pc (slot1 cpu) to look at the kernel source ;)03:26
adobbiealle: I don't remember touch anything with 'lp' in it when I configured the printer03:26
adobbiealle: just use the GUI stuff to configure it03:26
alleadobbie: I did that. The lp stuff was just now suggested to me by the other guy.03:27
black_nightmareroo_ I'm guessing I don't even need any of these lines for a single old scsi-2  2.5" hd under "# Multi-device support (RAID and LVM)" .. right?03:27
deliremariano: did it work?03:27
lewwyso...anyway my brother doesnt particularily like linux, or for that matter, ubuntu.  Does anyone here want to suggest some applications that may "wow" him"?03:27
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mjrvim?03:27
roo_black_nightmare, right03:28
deliremariano: if you want that driver loaded forever all you need to do is edit /etc/modules so include the name03:28
roo_black_nightmare, only one way to find out ;)03:28
black_nightmarelewwy or maybe doom/quake2 if he's that kind of pc gamer03:28
Tuxicitymjr, lol03:28
snowblinklewwy, frozen bubble03:28
black_nightmareroo_ ... I guess I'll delete that particular list then..no need for raid/lvm03:28
lewwyi gots quake3 on here black_nightmare it doesnt do much for him03:28
deliredrasko: the midi driver you have is perfectly ready to use.03:28
az[a] zel_ubuntuwe need some eye candy like Mac OS X has.. that always wows people03:28
az[a] zel_ubuntuexpose, dock icon zoom, etc etc03:28
mjraz, yes, coming, see luminocity03:28
az[a] zel_ubuntuyaeh I watched those videos03:28
roo_black_nightmare, if u want to build a Ubuntu custom kernel, try reading this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto03:28
az[a] zel_ubuntuvery cool stuff03:28
lewwytoo bad mac os X sucks03:28
delirelewwy: precis03:29
az[a] zel_ubuntuI <3 Mac OS X :) *hugs ibook*03:29
roo_whats the point in blindly copying OSX features, az[a] zel_ubuntu ?03:29
az[a] zel_ubuntuyes I know it's proprietary and I'm a heathen03:29
black_nightmareroo_ nah not ubuntu -- not sure I'll even use a desktop gui03:29
black_nightmareI'm working on the souce to the plain 2.6.11.6 kernel itself here03:29
black_nightmare68k one that is03:29
az[a] zel_ubunturoo_, I dont mean copy it's features blindly.. just saying we could use some "wow factor" eye candy :)03:29
lewwydelire, what is precis?03:29
roo_well, i disagree az[a] zel_ubuntu :p03:29
lewwyupdate after update after update via synaptic03:30
lewwyi want a program, i have to download 10 megs worth of "dependencies"03:30
delireaz[a] zel_ubuntu: what do you mean? http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=15431&file1=15431-1.jpg&file2=15431-2.jpg&file3=15431-3.jpg&name=KDE+3.3+-+Xorg+6.8+Beta+-+Unbeatable03:30
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delireaz[a] zel_ubuntu: OSX interface for linux is trivial to setup03:30
lewwyi suppose at the end of the day, its more cleaner, using dependencies03:30
delirelewwy: sorry. it means precisely03:30
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lewwylol here i was searching on synaptic for preci delire03:31
roo_i think the most important movement for the linux desktop is towards intergration.03:31
lewwyprecis*03:31
puppethttp://media.ebaumsworld.com/backstreet.swf03:31
lewwyroo_, intergration? intergrated into what?03:31
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black_nightmareroo_ if I know that I'll probably only use an external modem with my laptop I don't need any of these network or IP stuffs?03:31
black_nightmareor do I still need certain ones even for dialup access?03:32
roo_intergration between the desktop and applications, whatever the nature and background of the apps.03:32
az[a] zel_ubuntuintegration like apps understanding eachother and sharing more data...03:32
roo_exactly, az[a] zel_ubuntu03:32
lewwyhey heres a interesting shootout.  Quake 3 on a DSL system with minimalistic stuff installed against a win98 system.  The system is a 200mhz w/ s3 virge basic accelration03:32
az[a] zel_ubuntulike everything that needs to being able to see the address book data, for example03:32
az[a] zel_ubuntuand also, beagle needs to be able to search a whole bunch of data03:32
roo_the user should have to care if an app is a "KDE app" or "Gnome app" or "GTK" or "Qt"..03:32
lewwyyeh, it still feels like ubuntu is very "split up"03:33
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delireroo_: see autopackage.org03:33
lewwywhat they need to do, is recreate the filebrowsing archatechture into KDE03:33
roo_delire, seen it, they are doing great work.03:33
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lewwysomeone needs to make another version of a GUI that is nicely self packaged03:33
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lewwycoding*03:33
delirelewwy: it's about choice. one reason why some switch from OSX or win32 to linux.03:33
az[a] zel_ubuntudrag 'n' drop needs to be everywhere.. as well as copying/pasting of things like images and other data needs to be rock solid (it works, I've seen it, but all apps need to support it)03:33
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roo_black_nightmare, probably not, altho doing remove Unix Domain Sockets.03:34
roo_black_nightmare, or any TCP/IP stuff.03:34
delireroo_: really. it's incredible what they have acheived. have you used it?03:34
az[a] zel_ubuntui've installed autopackage stuff before.. it's very slick03:34
lewwyyeh well, what do you expect.  Windows = one tech team = universal standard of apps talking to each other03:34
black_nightmareroo_ hm...well I guess I could just remove the tunnel/router/etc ones for now then ask about the rest later03:34
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az[a] zel_ubuntunah windows is a mess as well03:34
roo_delire, yeah i have a test box that i was playing with, its amazing functionality and now its reached 1.0... :D03:34
az[a] zel_ubuntuif you want to look at integration, look at OS X03:34
lewwyLinux = hundreds of tech teams, thousands of individuals = a little bit of crap here and there03:35
roo_black_nightmare, yep, slowly slowly catchy monkey :)03:35
cowbudaz[a] zel_ubuntu: linux is on its way...03:35
lewwyaz[a] zel_ubuntu, dont talk to me about OS X03:35
mjraz[a] zel_ubuntu, yes, it's a shame that many apps don't take full advantage of X11's clipboards, only using them for text03:35
delirelewwy: linux standardisation is evidenced in Novell's suite03:35
lewwyaz[a] zel_ubuntu, i used to like it.  Until i discovered that it was..well...what is it?  all osx is is a bunch of GNU crap repacked and sold03:35
lewwyaz[a] zel_ubuntu, hmm, selling free software, now THATS ethical03:35
roo_Novell are doing important work. They work almost soley on creating an intergrated environment.03:36
az[a] zel_ubuntulewwy, erm what?03:36
delireaz[a] zel_ubuntu: but it's heavily flawed. it *depends* on a single architecture, is not free and therefore is not a Public Operating System03:36
lewwyaz[a] zel_ubuntu, isnt osx just another linux distro?03:36
roo_inho, intergration is a more immediately important goal for the linux desktop than windows that flop around like a fish. :p03:36
black_nightmareroo_ any idea what 'SCTP Configuration' is?03:36
az[a] zel_ubuntulewwy, nothing wrong with selling free software.. but you're not paying for that (you can download darwin for free).. you're paying for aqua, and the apps on top of carbon/cocoa etc..03:36
black_nightmareor thats something I don't need for a home dialup laptop?03:36
roo_black_nightmare, nope, but google might :)03:36
delireaz[a] zel_ubuntu: i have to use OSX at work from time to time and really dislike it, on a useability level also.03:36
jerome^_^"all osx is is a bunch of GNU crap repacked and sold" .... but its so pretty03:36
Bazzilewwy it's BSD and the kernel ahs been made by apple, so userland is BSD.03:36
davegahanxwhy does hoary not automatically mount windows volumes ?03:36
queuetuelewwy, Uhm, no.  OSX is the aqua interface running on the Darwin port of BSD...03:36
az[a] zel_ubuntulewwy, Mach kernel with BSD userland03:37
roo_davegahanx, because of the kittens!03:37
lewwyokay lets explain my dilemma then03:37
queuetueIs Darwin the Mach kernel?03:37
mjrselling free software is not what's bad about apple. What's bad about apple is closed specs, drm and patent lawsuits and threats, and stuff like that. Oh, and that they're selling proprietary software ;)03:37
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deliremjr: yes03:37
jerome^_^delire: i use it at uni (graphic design) ... and its amazing. makes things so much quicker with F9, F10 and F1103:37
davegahanxpardon ?03:37
roo_selling free software is a Good Thing (tm). FSF encourage it.03:37
az[a] zel_ubuntulewwy, it has some really nice user interface features.. like expose for instance... you can see all open windows at once (it scales them and updates in real time).. which is great for dragging and dropping... start drag, activate expose, drag to other window, deactive expose, let go... very slick03:38
delirejerome^_^: i develop 3D applications and do alot of 3D modelling. it's terrible for that. extremely slow03:38
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Mitariohi03:38
lewwyaz[a] zel_ubuntu, at school, i use a variation of iMacs and eMacs. Okay, so first time i use it i think, meh, not so bad.  Anyway, bit by bit, apps start crashing.03:38
lewwyonce i had a mac crash SO bad03:38
lewwyi couldnt even turn it off by using the 5 seconds off feature03:38
Mitariowhat does Apr  1 15:37:48 localhost kernel: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 8 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 mean? (it happens some time after i plug in my 3,5" usb-ide harddisk box)03:38
roo_davegahanx, im kidding. probably a philosophy thing, u can find out how to do it yourself here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions03:38
lewwyi mean...soft switches03:38
jerome^_^delire: k, take ur word for it ... I always wondered what 3d developers used. Always thought dos was the preferred03:39
black_nightmareroo_ 'watchdog' is that  like useless in a home laptop?  if I recall right it reboots the system when it detect the os is hung or so03:39
lewwywho the hell DEPENDS on soft switches03:39
davegahanxsure i did it already03:39
lewwyatleast the soft switch on the front of my case WOKS03:39
delireaz[a] zel_ubuntu: i tend to differ, OSX has twice the 'clicks' that even a modern win32 desktop has. it's tiring to use and this 'Finder' assumes software is lost already.03:39
az[a] zel_ubuntulewwy, I rarely have stability problems with my ibook, so I dunno03:39
lewwyWORKS*03:39
davegahanxand with help of someone03:39
roo_black_nightmare, afaik, its useless for u mate03:39
black_nightmareroo_ yeah like I thought ty03:39
davegahanxhowever, should be mounted automatically03:39
black_nightmareand roo_ if you want to.. go to www.lowendmac.com and look for 'powerbook' in the right navigator bar .. and find the 145B03:39
roo_davegahanx, it should mount automaticaly on boot if uve done it properly, yeah03:39
black_nightmarethats what I own..and am trying to figure making the kernel for :p03:40
marianodelire03:40
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marianothanks a lot, man03:40
lewwyanyway, last year we're using OSX 10 on  a iMac. (Hell it takes ages to encode) anyway, there we are and im watching my friend.  all of a sudden, it dissapears.  Just...gone.  Can't recover it (because of macs ghey ass filesystem).  So we failed.  And THATS why i hate macs03:40
marianoit works fine, and i learned a lot too03:40
delirejerome^_^: walt-disney, weta et al prefer Linux running maya. OSX is good for video editing albeit. though Main Actor for Linux is eating heavily into Final Cut Pro's market share03:40
deliremariano: hey great!! tell black_nightmare all about it won't you..03:40
deliremariano: good for you. take a few notes and you'll be able to search and load drivers on any linux machine03:41
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az[a] zel_ubuntulewwy, OS X uses HFS+.. a journaling filesystem.. but journalled filesystem don't journal data, only meta data, so the filesystem is recoverable, but not necessarily your data.. I've had reiserfs on linux hose my data on a crash too03:41
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deliremariano: ISA support for her sound card03:41
lewwyaz[a] zel_ubuntu, obviously getting into another os debate will get us nowhere03:41
lewwyaz[a] zel_ubuntu, but atleast i know about the alternative of linux so im not blindly fighting for WINDOWS PWNS MAC03:42
black_nightmare'cryptographic' ... what is that again?03:42
lewwyencryption black_nightmare ?03:42
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roo_black_nightmare, crc functions, important.03:42
delireproprietary operating systems are rapidly becoming a thing of the past. the business model crumbles under feasibility studies and the responsibility of public administrational bodies to remain vendor neutral03:42
black_nightmareoh ok ty03:42
black_nightmare"# Native Language Support" would that be for other languages than english or am I not getting something?03:43
jerome^_^delire: i cant wait to get started with 3d modelling ... im gonna start playing around with blender one day soon ...03:43
roo_black_nightmare, for character encodings. important..03:43
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roo_black_nightmare, btw, that is some BADASS laptop ur building this kernel for! ;)03:44
delirejerome^_^: excellent choice. i'm teaching blender to game development students here in denmark03:44
padlefotwhat does "tout c'qu'on connait" mean?03:44
delirejerome^_^: see http://selectparks.net for a few tips03:44
roo_blender is wonderful, what an achievement03:44
black_nightmareroo_ you're amusing.. its not really badass :))03:44
delirereally. i use it daily and cherish it.03:44
padlefotanyone in here speak french?03:45
roo_black_nightmare, how much did it cost? did u even pay for it? :o03:45
lewwypadlefot, it means "stuff you retard" more or less03:45
Tuxicitypadlefot, ==everything we know03:45
black_nightmaresomeone want to explain different linux file systems to me?03:45
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marianogot to restart now, delire03:45
padlefotTuxicity thanx alot =)03:45
delireroo_: i used maya in a day job for several years, and also 3DSMax and both pale for rapid mesh modelling/animation03:45
lewwywell black_nightmare when a mummy and a daddy love each other very much...03:45
deliremariano: ok bye03:45
marianoso i test your implementation here03:45
mariano:)03:45
marianosee ya03:45
marianothanks a lot, again03:45
delireroo_: for character animation maya is superior however03:45
deliremariano: anytime!03:45
padlefotlewwy, bgish03:46
black_nightmareroo_ I got it used actually btw...still have to figure buying a newly-rebuilt battery for it since the one in it is aging at like past 1.6 years old now03:46
roo_delire, u really think so? ive only ever use 3dsmax and maya a little, blender a lot (long time linux user) but only as a hobby. i think its a fantstic tool03:46
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black_nightmareso would someone like to explain linux file types to me or what? :p03:46
roo_black_nightmare, file types? or filesystem types?03:47
delireroo_: i think it's a much faster tool for rapid mesh modelling. it simply performs and plays better. harder to get into but the rewards are great.03:47
padlefotextensions i guess..03:47
adobbieblack_nightmare: 'man file'03:47
black_nightmaresorry.. filesystem I mean03:47
black_nightmaredoh03:47
adobbieblack_nightmare: I recommend XFS03:47
black_nightmareI'm wondering if I need all of these or I can edit it down03:47
black_nightmareadobbie... xfs?  even for a tiny hd03:47
delireblack_nightmare: ext3 == journaled file system. ext2 == static file system. reiserfs, trouble.03:47
roo_black_nightmare, too much to explain.. please googe for that there is a TONNE of literature on linux filesystems.03:47
adobbieblack_nightmare: why not?03:47
adobbieit's scales03:47
adobbieit scales03:47
az[a] zel_ubuntuso I'm running x.org on hoary right now (right?), can I get those funky drop shadows now? :)03:48
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black_nightmarehmm ok03:48
black_nightmarestorage hd would usually be ext2/ext3 or do they use something else on average [or by default] ?03:48
adobbieext2 is crap03:48
az[a] zel_ubuntureiserfs is bad news.. eats data on crash.. I wonder if version 4 will be good03:48
delireaz[a] zel_ubuntu: yep.. though i'm not the one to help as i don't have the UI handy03:48
black_nightmarejust curious which filesystem for both my laptop's hd and any external hd shared from someone03:48
adobbieext3 is just a hack on ext203:48
black_nightmareoh ok03:49
delireaz[a] zel_ubuntu: apparently it will be yes..03:49
padlefoti only use ext303:49
delireblack_nightmare: i enjoy ext3. to convert ext2 --> ext3 simply 'tune2fs -j /dev/<yourpartition>'03:49
Tuxicityblack_nightmare, i have no problem with EXT303:49
padlefotcant say i have had any either03:50
delireit's practically a standard..03:50
black_nightmareso I'll keep ext3....jfs...xfs...minix...quotactl...dnotify....autofs....autofs403:50
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black_nightmareughh or maybe..I should just see what the average everyone else would be using on similar systems maybe03:50
pregoHi. Does anyone use UMTS with ubuntu via PCMCIA in a laptop?03:51
padlefotcan i make my ntfs partition writeable from linux?03:51
adobbieXFS is the only filesystem I use on harddrives03:51
marianowell03:51
PacoBCNpadlefot, sure03:51
thoreauputicblack_nightmare: ext3 is pretty much standard03:51
adobbiepadlefot: you probably don't want to03:51
padlefotPacoBCN, howto? :-)03:51
PacoBCNpadlefot, but it's dangerous!03:51
delirepadlefot: only with a 'captive ntfs' driver03:51
marianothanks to delire, here i can play cds by now03:51
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deliremariano: great ;))03:51
black_nightmareany idea what 'autofs' would be? :p03:51
delireanyway, must head off out..03:51
marianohey delire, really great03:51
adobbieblack_nightmare: it's in the documentation.03:52
Tuxicitypadlefot, ya, use CaptiveNTFS03:52
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thoreauputicblack_nightmare: why do you need to delve into this?03:52
marianoblack_nightmare: did you get your soundcard working yet03:52
black_nightmarethore....shave out as much as I can...especially for the reason of a small hd03:52
black_nightmareor minimal kernel in another word03:53
Tuxicityblack_nightmare, i think autofs is for autoloading CDs?03:53
padlefotTuxicity, sourceforge? or can i find it in apt?03:53
adobbieNFS03:53
black_nightmarehmm guess don't need that then tuxi..I'll check any search for 'autofs cd' later when I have less things running here03:53
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lewwyhey dudes, does anyone know how to run quake3 in timedemo?03:54
black_nightmarewelll I'm going bbl for a while but remain logged on03:55
adobbie"The automounter is a tool to automatically mount remote file systems on demand. This implementation is partially kernel-based to reduce overhead in the already-mounted case; this is unlike the BSD automounter (amd), which is a pure user space daemon."03:55
adobbiefor those not familiar with autofs03:55
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pregoDoes anyone use UMTS with ubuntu?03:58
lewwy...03:58
lewwycrap, how do you make quake3 record the timedemo results03:59
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lewwy188.3 fps in quake3 timedemo04:00
lewwythats...thats fast04:00
kev0rh8tz!04:00
lewwywhat kev0r ?04:00
Lena14hello... i have a problem.. i got and old comp who wont start booting from the cd.. so want to make a bootable floppy to then start the ubuntu-install from cd.. is there any .img i can write with rawrite to my floppy on the cd? :O04:01
lewwyhang on Lena14 i think i have one04:01
Lena14okai! thx! :D04:01
lewwyif you google bootcd.img04:01
lewwyhang on i'll link you04:01
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Lena14k, thx =)04:01
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stdoutis it true that ubuntu project is off cause of finantial reasons ?04:02
Lena14is it true that its 1 april today?04:02
oXeNheh04:02
Lena14;)04:02
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oXeNDid you hear I bought Ubuntu and I am changing the name to "Better than all other linux distros"04:03
oXeNits true04:03
Rene_SOMG, what a scary looking GDM screen04:03
manduckLena14: is it true?04:03
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Lena14hehe, who knows ;)04:04
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bugaboohey04:04
lewwyftp://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/boot-0.8.0.img04:04
oXeNi highly doubt it last I heard the ubuntu developers were teaming with another distro or something04:04
manduckLena14: is ubuntu project dead?04:04
lewwyLena14, ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/boot-0.8.0.img04:04
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Lena14Thx! :D04:05
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oXeNand there is a release coming out soon heh04:05
Lena14manduck, dont think so =)04:05
lewwyLena14, i _think_ that may work04:05
Lena14lewwy, i trie it n tell soon =)04:05
lewwyLena14, just disregard the feather linux splash on bootup04:05
lewwyr u a chick Lena14 ?04:05
Lena14;)04:05
lewwyLena14, just wondering thats all04:05
lewwyLena14, because i will certainly die if girls start using linux04:05
Lena14would u believe me is i saied yes? =P04:05
jsgotangco*grin*04:06
Lena14:D04:06
jsgotangcohey04:06
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black_nightmareadobbie so I guess that I don't need autofs if I don't plan any remote drives?04:06
jsgotangcoi have a friend (a babe) who maitains in debian04:06
manduckare ubuntu shipping ubuntu linux @ home for free?04:06
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jsgotangcomanduck: yes just request at shipit.ubuntulinux.org04:06
Tuxicitymanduck, Ubuntu is well alive04:07
lewwythats gotta be costing them a lot of money04:07
manducki requested approx. 1 month ago but i`ve n`t recieved yet...04:07
mercurus_manduck, Hoary hasn't been released ...04:07
lewwyTuxicity, it really doesnt make sense.  People just dont...send stuff out for free...04:07
lewwyTuxicity, its not like its ad supported, so they're not making any money off i04:08
lewwyit*04:08
manduckHoary?04:08
lewwytell you what, i'll be damned if they ship me my 10cd's04:08
Tuxicitylewwy, 650MB CDs are cheaper i suppose then 700MB ones04:08
lewwyif they do, windows = gone04:08
PacoBCNjust wondering how many of us will switch to next alpha release as soon as it's available :)04:08
thoreauputiclewwy: they are getting lots of users, a community and good PR04:08
padlefotthey do send out CD's04:08
lewwyyeh lol, i downloaded ubuntu because of...well two people said it was good04:09
lewwyon a forum04:09
lewwyand hell i hate yumex04:09
padlefotwe ordered 600 cds for a LAN-party we had in february04:09
lewwyi hate yum04:09
black_nightmarepaco..I'll rather stick to what already working for me (decided to stop bother updating too) ... just kinda don't like the bandwidth useage04:09
lewwypadlefot, are you serious?04:09
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manduckyumex?04:09
LaverneI got 10 cd's as well04:09
black_nightmare;)04:09
padlefotlewwy: yes, we even went downtown and gave them out after the party, for free..04:09
PacoBCN I ordered 20 copies of Ubuntu hoary and when they arrived I gave them away to friends. Now all of them are ubuntu users04:09
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lewwylol it'll take a bit b4 my friends become ubuntu users04:10
Tuxicitypadlefot, neat04:10
padlefotTuxicity, yeah.. TLUGS idea..04:10
manduckbut how theyafford that cost?04:10
PacoBCNwell, all my friends were so pissed off with Windows that it was pretty easy to make them switch04:10
lewwybeg04:10
lewwypaypal donate?04:10
padlefotlewwy, and the firm that supports them04:10
padlefotwhats its name?04:11
thoreauputicmanduck: heh - Mark Shuttleworth has plenty of money...04:11
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lewwy...04:11
jsgotangcoits not infinite though04:11
PacoBCNthoreauputic, indeed, don't think he needs any paypal :)04:11
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GNAM8th april: end of winxp04:11
black_nightmaredon't flame me but...I've kinda been wondering about put my pc back to 98se as soon as I figure linux on my laptop04:11
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djpis there an april fools from ubuntu doing the rounds? the reason i ask is that i have a very strange pic appear at the login screen. looks like it is taking the mickey out of the three 'models' that are used for normal ubuntu shots...04:11
padlefotCanonical Ltd04:11
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alleLeeJunFan: Hi, you back again?04:11
manduckFGNAME, how?04:11
PacoBCNjsgotangco, it might not be infinite byt if he can spend millions to have a trip in the space...04:11
black_nightmareubuntu is just quite being slow (long delay to get terminal opened too) on this pc compared to that it was quite fast with the customized 98se months ago04:11
GNAMayauau04:11
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black_nightmareoh well..at least the laptop'll let me still poke around with linux for now04:12
marianohey, somebody knows how to make mp3 work in ubuntu?04:12
thoreauputicblack_nightmare: on older PCs a better distro is something like Vector Linux04:12
skreetblack_nightmare, Ubuntu isnt a depricated OS04:12
geppymariano: Enable universe, then do 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer-plugins'04:12
Laverneblack_nightmare, I dont know if its done on startup but try hdparm -d1 /dev/hda04:12
PacoBCNmariano, did you read the ubuntuguide.org?04:12
padlefotmariano: sudo apt-get install xmms04:12
pregomariano, get gstreamer-mad pakage04:12
jsgotangcoPacoBCN: he has good people handling that money so its always revolving04:12
marianoyeah, PacoBCN04:12
marianobut didn't get any clear idea04:13
lewwybut...thousands of cd's04:13
skreetmariano, apt-get install gstreamer-mad and you'll be fine :D04:13
PacoBCNmariano, tocayo, I recommend you to install beep media player04:13
geppyWhere can I find Linus' latest April fools' joke?04:13
lewwyat least 500,000 dollars in postage04:13
geppyPacoBCN: pfffft04:13
manduckis ubuntu for server avialable?04:13
marianowhere can i get that PacoBCN04:13
thoreauputicblack_nightmare: don't forget Win98 was designed to run on hardware 7 years old04:13
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padlefotlewwy; i have an original worty install cd right here :)04:13
skreetmanduck, I use it for a server, I just disable gdm.04:13
PacoBCNmariano, did you enable all repos?04:13
geppymanduck: Ubuntu works fine for servers;  just 'sudo apt-get install apache2'04:13
pregogeppy, "prego is best user ever" ;-P04:13
geppyprego: hahahaha =)04:13
marianono PacoBCN, ... how i...?04:13
manduckskreet, gdm?04:13
mariano:)04:13
PacoBCNmariano, if you did it's just "sudo apt-get install beep-media-player"04:14
black_nightmarethore.....in this case: 300Amhz slot1, 128mb ram, and that the motherboard is udma/33 controllers, and I probably could list a bit more but nevermind :p04:14
skreetmanduck, Gnome Display Manager (basically I disable the GUI)04:14
manduck[newbie though ;)] 04:14
black_nightmarethats my pc right there04:14
skreetmanduck, I enable SSHD and log in via ssh04:14
PacoBCNmariano, in ubuntuguide.org you'll find complete isntructions04:14
skreetmanduck, Then I installed and setup vsftp, apache and ts server04:14
manduckskreet, okay04:14
topyligeppy: don't know but Dave jones has a nice post on lkml: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/4/1/4104:14
black_nightmaresome wonder I'm not minding it but then the long delay to open simple windows sometimes is just a tad bit annoying04:14
skreetmanduck, Works rather nicely. http://www.k-cubed.net/~skreet/04:14
PacoBCNmariano, or just type this: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"04:14
geppytopyli: Thanks!04:14
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accusermanduck: when booting from ubuntu cd to install, type 'server' at the boot prompt to install without gdm04:14
thoreauputicblack_nightmare: a bit slow for a modern distro - vector or Debian Woody would run better than Ubuntu on ot04:14
black_nightmarevector linux? hmm...let me try find the website for that....04:14
thoreauputic*it04:14
padlefotproftpd04:15
marianoi don't have the package, PacoBCN (gstreamer)04:15
manduckskreet, do you know about server configuration?04:15
GNAMaccuser: server=no gnome?04:15
lewwydebian rocks04:15
black_nightmarethore..yeah..I guess you already said it lol04:15
Tuxicityblack_nightmare, but xfce would be faster than Gnome i suppose04:15
alleLeeJunFan: I've been reading linuxprinting.org, but it didn't tell me much. However, the behaviour of lpstat -t changed. It now says "Starting ESP Ghostscript" forever04:15
accuserGNAM: yes04:15
thoreauputicblack_nightmare: Vector is quite nice, up to date, and quick04:15
PacoBCNmariano, I'll PM you04:15
skreetmanduck, What kind of server? Apache?04:15
manduckskreet, LAN server???04:16
padlefotis the apache2 config anything like the apache config?04:16
pregoTuxicity, i don't feel xfce faster than Gnome any more. It is lighter, that is clear- but not faster as it was time ago (IMHO)04:16
skreetmanduck, A LAN server to HOST what?04:16
skreetmanduck, Games? Websites? Domain controller?04:16
skreetmanduck, You can *serve* just about ANYTHING :D04:16
LeeJunFanalle: I wonder if ghostscript is the problem. make sure it's installed.04:16
Tuxicityprego, cause xfce became slower or Gnome faster?04:16
skreetprego, Agreed04:17
padlefotanybody use "3ddesktop" here?04:17
manduckskreet, plz PM with me i want help belonging server, will you help me?04:17
accuserpadlefot: used it, but uninstalled. no good for dvd playback - grabs desktop image every couple of seconds04:17
alleLeeJunFan: Synaptic doesn't find anything when I type "ghost". How's the package called?04:17
thoreauputicpadlefot: I played with it - but my current machine doesn't have a 3d card04:17
skreetmanduck, You cant clearly tell me what you want your server to host I have no way of helping you out.04:18
pregoTuxicity, because gnome become faster04:18
black_nightmarethore....it would be interesting to try get my own custom minimal kernel compiled and xfree [or any small frontend]  running on my 68k laptop which is TONS older than the pc even is.... mainly just for fun :p04:18
LeeJunFanalle: well, that's maybe not it after all. I also don't have ghostscript installed. :-/04:18
padlefotaccuser: kinda figured it was loadish04:18
Tuxicityprego, good, better this way04:18
pregoTuxicity, Metacity speed has improved very much04:18
black_nightmareand if you want to know.. its a 68030@ 25mhz with 8mb of ram.  tiny 2.5" scsi hd too04:18
black_nightmare:p04:18
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Tuxicityprego, 2.10?04:18
pregoTuxicity, Metacity was very slow some time ago. I don't know why04:18
skreetblack_nightmare, 2.5" scsi?04:18
black_nightmarebut then yeah as for my pc... hm I may as well as see about redoing it to vector linux and see if that clicks this time04:18
pregoTuxicity, first time I saw gnome being fast was in Warty04:19
lewwywhats the command to run bittornado-gui?04:19
LeeJunFanalle: ok - gs-common gs-esp gsfonts04:19
manduckskreet: actually i haven`t server but i`m client in LAN, through which i access net by paying some charges..04:19
black_nightmareskreet... usually in 68k powerbooks.  oftenly apple rom-ed seagate's04:19
black_nightmarebut then yeah they are rare now04:19
black_nightmareseagate or quantum?  umm I forgot already04:19
roo_lewwy, btdownloadgui.py ?04:19
Tuxicityprego, but i think they plan to make optimizations in like 2.1204:19
thoreauputiclewwy: btdownloadgui04:19
alleLeeJunFan: All installed here04:19
pregoTuxicity, also many small improvements have been made in diferent areas. The result is that in speed is as fast as Xfce now.04:19
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thoreauputiclewwy: I think04:19
pregoTuxicity, yes, GTK is still slow in some areas04:20
manduckskreet: but my LAN admin disabled POP, SMTP, NNTP, DCC...access...and not cooperating with me..04:20
lewwywxPython is either not installed or has not been installed properly.04:20
alleLeeJunFan: When I type gs-esp on the console, a new window and a GS> shell start up04:20
pregoTuxicity, and of course there may be specific gnome parts to be optimized yet.04:20
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skreetmanduck, Theres no way around that.04:20
lewwythats what i get for btdownloadgui04:20
skreetmanduck, You can make a local POP SMTP NNTP DCC server but it wont touch the internet.04:20
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LeeJunFanalle: hrm. I wonder if you could get anything more if you turned up the debugging level in cups and checked the logs.04:20
thoreauputiclewwy: well, install it then :)04:20
manduckbut i want these services enabled so hopw do i........04:20
skreetAnyone know of a way to make FireFox not so damn slow?04:21
lewwywtf is wxpython?04:21
manduckskreet: there is no way?04:21
EvilIdlerlewwy: wxWidgets for Python04:21
skreetmanduck, Not if they set those denys up right.04:21
pregolewwy, wxwidgets bindings for python04:21
EvilIdlerlewwy: http://www.wxwidgets.org04:21
accuserskreet: disable ipv6 in about:setup04:21
black_nightmarethore.....I've noticed three types of vector linux... 4.3 deluxe, 5.0 SOHO, 1.8 standard04:21
black_nightmarea bit confusing to me now lol04:21
skreetaccuser, Hm, thanks.04:21
manduckskreet : :(04:22
lewwyhey guys, how hard is it to program for ubuntu?04:22
thoreauputicblack_nightmare: for that machine, don't use the SOHO version04:22
lewwywhat options do i have?04:22
accuserskreet: sorry, about:config04:22
lewwyi know i have C, ASM, but what else?04:22
roo_lewwy, what language, target etc?04:22
skreetoh was about to complain accuser  :D04:22
thoreauputicblack_nightmare: and 1.8 is ancient\04:22
roo_lewwy, about every language under the sun.04:22
black_nightmareso 4.3 deluxe then I take it?04:22
lewwyroo_, even visual basic?04:22
bugabooi cant get internet sharing to work properly :(04:22
thoreauputicblack_nightmare: 1.8 is for really old machines04:22
black_nightmareI see04:22
manducklewwy : is there assembler avialable for linux?04:23
roo_lewwy, thats not a programming language.04:23
thoreauputicblack_nightmare: probably, yes - last one I used was 3.2 so...04:23
roo_manduck, of course04:23
manducklewwy : for ubuntu?04:23
Lena14lewwy, that was a knoppix floppy? =)04:23
black_nightmarethore...you still can download 3.2 :p04:23
manduckroo_ : name plz???04:23
roo_manduck, what? :/04:23
lewwyLena14, yes, but it should boot from CD04:23
Lena14it didnt :(04:24
lewwyLena14, someone i know used it to boot windows XP04:24
UBabeis cowbud about?04:24
thoreauputicblack_nightmare: you can still get all of them04:24
Lena14k04:24
manduckroo_ : assembler name?04:24
bugaboo"Make sure your not running routed or gated" -- I read this in my tutorial anyone with a clue what it means?04:24
skreetMy hard disk is making some noise and my computer is running REALLY slow, anything like the old SMART for dos that might be able to tell me of an imminent failure?04:24
us0571have any one installed ns2 in ubuntu? ^_^04:24
EvilIdlermanduck: gas or nasm04:24
roo_manduck, is your target x86?04:24
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bugabooit is regarding iptables04:24
roo_manduck, if x86 use nasm04:24
alleLeeJunFan: I got it nearly at max. Can't find anything, but that could also have to do with the tens of thousands of lines of information in the error_log04:24
manduckroo_ : yes04:25
roo_manduck, use nasm (or gas like EvilIdler said already)04:25
roo_manduck, you should learn to google these things. save yourself and others some time :/04:25
manduckroo_ : ok :(04:25
black_nightmarethore...do you know if there is any meaning of 'Multi-device support (RAID and LVM)' for a single-hd laptop or not really?04:25
black_nightmare;)04:25
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pregoNice! I have installed flashplayer-mozilla and now Mozilla et al crash when there is flash content ??????04:25
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LeeJunFanalle: yeah, cups is fun sometimes.04:25
topylibugaboo: i guess it means you shouldn't run them :)04:26
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deFryskprego, get flashplayer-nonfree04:26
alleLeeJunFan: this is just kind of a crappy situation, because I've been using Linux since almost seven years and am practically lost. Can't even try to imagine to give this to people and let them be on their own...04:26
cowbudUBabe: he is :)04:27
cowbudjust a little slow04:27
thoreauputicblack_nightmare: not relevant if you have only one hard drive04:27
black_nightmareok..deleted all of these :p04:27
LeeJunFanalle: yeah, I know. A lot of people fool themselves into believing linux is ready for everyone just because it works for them.04:27
pregodeFrysk, flashplugin-nonfree ?04:27
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padlefotwell if it works for them, thats great. they can take the next step.. everyone has to start somewhere..04:28
LeeJunFanalle: but on the other hand when was the last time you got an informative error from windows other than can't spool print job or something. :)04:28
deFryskprego, yup04:28
pregoLeeJunFan, he, what it is good for me is good for everybody ;-)04:28
alleLeeJunFan: That's true as well.04:28
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alle:-/04:28
alleLeeJunFan: Any other suggestions? There has to be SOME useful output somewhere ...04:29
black_nightmareleejun you know whats a bit amusing?04:29
alleLeeJunFan: Especially that the computer hangs at "Starting USB" on boot when the printer is plugged in, that's very strange.04:29
black_nightmareleejun - first of all..do you know about compact macintosh's (alak these with the small screen attached) or not really? :p04:29
LeeJunFanalle: it is - I wonder if there could be a lower level problem like a hardware based conflict with something and the usb bus. Are there any other usb devices in use?04:30
Lena14anyone know if there is and "floppy-install" so i can install ubuntu from the net, without a cdrom ?04:31
pregodeFrysk, no luck .. it crashes again....04:31
deFryskprego, where did you get mozilla from ?04:31
pregodeFrysk, from repositories04:31
alleLeeJunFan: A mouse.04:31
deFryskthe officilal one prego ?04:32
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pregodeFrysk, Mozilla2:7.1.6-1ubuntu104:32
deFryskok04:32
pregodeFrysk, mozilla-browser, sorry04:33
deFryskremoved the other flash thing from mozilla ?04:33
krismwhen i plug multiple USB disks in, hotplug assigns /dev/sd[a-c]  based on the order in which i plug them in... is there a way to make it so when i plug in a specific disk, it's always a specific device?04:33
LeeJunFanalle: sorry man - I'm at a loss.04:33
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mjrkrism, yes, but I think you'd have to tune udev manually for it04:33
mjrkrism, google for udev introductions/references if you still want to04:34
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alleLeeJunFan: Well, I think I'll just try the Hoary upgrade...04:34
krismmjr : digging around /etc/udev now, thanks :)04:34
bur[n] erw00t... whoever put xfce4 into ubuntu... can you also add the xfce plugins from os-works?  and mousepad and xterminal?04:34
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LeeJunFanalle: worth a shot.04:35
alleLeeJunFan: And for now I think I'm just gonna put in the 3D graphics card they want. That's something I know how to do :-)04:36
alleThanks for your help though!04:36
alleSee you later04:36
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covertAny able to help me with version info ?04:37
thoreauputicversion info??04:38
Xeon3Derm... what line should I add to fstab so that any "normal" user can mount and use /dev/hdb1?04:38
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coverttrying to work out if the version on my laptop is 4.1 or a different version of ubuntu04:38
geppyXeon3D: User?  Compare it to your CD-ROM lines.04:38
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thoreauputiccovert: cat /etc/issue04:39
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covertthoreauputic thanks. Yeah it is 4.1 :)04:40
Sander-can someone tell me how I setup an ubuntu mirror? I'm kinda new to rsync04:40
thoreauputiccovert: no worries :)04:40
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krismBUS="scsi", SYSFS{vendor}="IC25N060", SYSFS{model}="ATMR04-0", NAME="sdg"04:42
krismin udev.rules :)04:42
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krismdammit04:42
LeeJunFanSander-: it'll take a lot of BW and about 50GB hd space.04:42
Sander-only the cd image04:42
Sander-2gb04:42
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black_nightmareif any of you feel like it....mind explain what these three are to me?04:43
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black_nightmareCONFIG_QUOTA=y04:43
black_nightmareCONFIG_QUOTACTL=y04:43
black_nightmareCONFIG_DNOTIFY=y04:43
xamdm_UBabe, sorry hat a little crash04:43
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Bazziblack_nightmare looks like some quota.04:45
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Xeon3Dgeppy, thanks. I can now mount it and unmount it... but when I try and go ls /media/setup/ it gives me a permission denied error04:46
black_nightmarehrm.....guess I'll leave these in then....just to be safe I guess04:46
black_nightmarebazzi say do you have any idea what a 'zisofs' disc filesystem is?04:46
kev0rIs anyone here able to come online with gaim, mine seems to fail to connect04:47
geppyXeon3D: I wouldn't know what to say, and I'm at school on a Windows machine, so I can't really play with it.04:47
geppykev0r: I'm on Gaim.04:47
Bazziblack_nightmare ISO filesystem for CD/DVD04:47
roo_kev0r, msn is down04:47
black_nightmarebazzi..yeah but for what use?  I never heard of zisofs04:47
thoreauputicblack_nightmare: I'd be guessing it's a compressed ISO feature04:47
MaRk-Iwth!! I'm connected??04:47
black_nightmarejust joliet and iso966004:47
Bazziblack_nightmare to read CDs? :)04:47
kev0roh poopie04:47
roo_kev0r, http://messenger.msn.com/Status.aspx04:47
kev0ri'm getting online with the webmessenger04:47
black_nightmarehmm ok..I hope its not a big thing then04:47
kev0rbut no-go with gaim04:47
roo_MaRk-I, signon is down :p04:48
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kev0rbah ><04:48
Xeon3DI'm going crazy here...04:48
Xeon3DI can mount and umount the /media/setup share... but as soon as I go ls /media/setup it gives me a permission denied error.04:48
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MaRk-Iroo_, couldn't connect to my router and installed my wireless trying to set it up and all of a sudden I can with eth0.... (hhmmm)04:49
kev0ri need my msn :(04:49
Tomcat_Xeon3D: What Filesystem on there?04:49
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Xeon3DNTFS04:49
Xeon3D:P04:49
thoreauputicXeon3D: what does ls -ld /media/setup   say?04:49
Tomcat_:P04:49
Tomcat_Xeon3D: Use -O uid=1000,gid=1000 then04:49
Xeon3Ddr-x------- 1 root root04:49
Tomcat_Xeon3D: Or something similar for your user...04:49
Tomcat_Xeon3D: Not sure if it matters what the directory has, but the uid/gid setting for mount *always* matters.04:50
Xeon3Dtomcat, please explain better... I'm a newb here.04:50
roo_MaRk-I, you probably enabled the dhcp client (dhclient3) without knowning which might have activated eth0? :/04:50
thoreauputicXeon3D: that's accessible only to root04:50
Tomcat_Xeon3D: Give me your mount cmdline you're using04:50
Xeon3Dtomcat,  I'm using fstab04:50
Xeon3DI edited it04:50
Xeon3Dso I'm just using mount /media/setup04:50
thoreauputicXeon3D: sudo chmod +r /media/setup04:50
MaRk-Iroo_, I did dhclient like 40 times with eth0 and no luck04:50
Xeon3DI'm wondering which part of the fstab should I edit...04:51
MaRk-Inow it wont find my wlan0 tho04:51
Tomcat_Xeon3D: Okay, then add uid=1000,gid=1000 under the options column in fstab... then try to remoun.04:51
black_nightmarehm..what is 'LUNS' now....04:51
Xeon3Dtomcat,  do I keep the user,noauto ones?04:51
MaRk-Ican I run both cards at the same time??? wlan0 and eth004:51
roo_MaRk-I, of course04:52
Tomcat_Xeon3D: Yeah, just add the uid/gid after that... like user,noauto,uid=...04:52
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Xeon3Dyay04:52
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Xeon3DTomcat_, thanks it worked... but that was strange.. why can I browse my CD's, etc.. if they haven't got the same uid option?04:52
Tomcat_Xeon3D: Because it's NTFS... wait...04:53
Tomcat_Xeon3D: man mount says for ntfs: "By default, the files are owned by root and not readable by someone else"... that's probably a security measure.04:54
Xeon3Dheh so it seems.04:54
Xeon3Dthanks tomcat04:54
effigyim having problems mounting my ntfs drive, ive set the permissions for the mount directory to 777 (everyone do everything) and in my fstab i have "/dev/hda1 /media/win1 ntfs ro,user,noauto 0 0" i can mount fine when im root, but then in nautilus it wont let me in because of permissions04:54
Xeon3DI was really going nuts over here... seems that I have to change the partition to fat32...04:54
Tomcat_thoreauputic: I just checked on my laptop... doesn't matter if the mount point directory is readable by others than root.04:54
effigycan anyone tell me what im doing wrong?04:55
Tuxicityblack_nightmare, BTW, there should be detailed info on each kernel module in "make menuconfig"04:55
Tomcat_effigy: Same problem as Xeon3D... add uid=1000,gid=1000 to the mount options.04:55
Xeon3Deffigy : add uid=1000,gid=1000 on your /etc/fstab04:55
effigycool, thanks04:55
thoreauputicTomcat_: ah OK - thanks I'll remember that :)04:55
Tomcat_thoreauputic: Wasn't really sure either. :)04:55
thoreauputicTomcat_: mine is 755 for some reason...04:56
Xeon3Dman, I don't know why I didn't switch to linux before... :P04:56
Tomcat_thoreauputic: Yeah mine as well... that's default for new directories, right?04:56
UBabethis is confusing, is anyone here familiar with Java absed applications for Linux?04:56
Xeon3Dusing ubuntu on 2 machines now... and I don't miss windows a bit..04:56
Tomcat_Xeon3D: Because Ubuntu didn't exist. :o04:56
thoreauputicTomcat_: yes, I think umask handles that04:56
osityso i intslled the open sshserver but still cant ssh in ...any idea why?04:56
Xeon3Dheh04:56
UBabetypo: Java based applications for Linux?04:56
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Xeon3DTomcat_, if you could read portuguese... (my language) you should really try Kurumin...04:57
Tomcat_Xeon3D: The only user capable of reading the files is user 1000 (you) now though... you have to change the uid/gid values to make others access it.04:57
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Xeon3Dit's beats almost anything for functionality and easiness of use.04:57
UBabeJava anyone?04:57
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Tomcat_Mh... maybe04:57
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Tomcat_UBabe: I'm quite familiar with Java...04:57
Xeon3DTomcat_, there should be no problem as I'm the only user with access to the machine.04:57
pregoIs it possible that flash plugin crashes with Composite extension being enabled (but not necessary being used)?04:57
UBabepraise goodness! :)04:57
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Tomcat_Xeon3D: If you aren't, find some group that you can put all users in (like group disk, or create a new one) and then edit the gid value.04:58
maddlerHELP! any clue why xine only works if launched as root/sudo?04:58
thoreauputicmaddler: are you in the video group?04:58
roo_UBabe, what are you looking for?04:59
dashnumaddler, because you do not have acces to video / audio ?04:59
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thoreauputictype `groups` to see04:59
mario__groups04:59
MaRk-Iwahahaha04:59
maddlerdashnu: yes04:59
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mario__groups04:59
maddlerI'm in the video group04:59
Xeon3DTomcat_, ... do you happen to know why the Desktop doesn't update automatically? I just created a dummy folder using the terminal, and it didn't show up yet.04:59
ositywhat else do i have to do other than the apt-get install openssh-server command?04:59
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maddlermaddler@gengiva:~$ groups04:59
maddlermaddler adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin04:59
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thoreauputicmario__: in a terminal, not in your client :)04:59
dashnui work at a java shop Tomcat_ matter of fact i use you a lot ;)04:59
Johannesenhi :)05:00
roo_osity, you're STILL trying to run sshd??! :o05:00
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Tomcat_dashnu: I'm admin of QuakeNet's #java and #java.de ... I get highlighted every day. :P05:00
wfxhi05:00
osityi just built a new box....it runs great on new stuff :005:00
osity:)05:00
Tomcat_Xeon3D: No idea, sorry.05:00
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MaRk-IXeon3D, thanks thanks :P05:00
dashnu:D05:00
effigyhas anyone managed to get gnomeboyadvance to work on hoary?05:00
nydusthow is it to use ubuntu as an server?05:00
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Johannesenis GimpShop available for ubuntu?05:01
osityroo: i've been going at this for a whilw cuz i do it over and over to learn05:01
thoreauputicmaddler: output of   ls -l /usr/bin/xine  ?05:01
MaRk-IMode:Managed  Frequency:2.437GHz  Access Point: 00:0F:66:3E:9B:FF05:01
MaRk-I          Bit Rate:125Mb/s   Tx-Power:25 dBm05:01
MaRk-Iwahahahaha05:01
osityroo: is there something else I have to do after that first apt-get command?05:01
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maddlerthoreauputic: -rwsr-sr-x  1 root root 957096 Jan 19 08:12 /usr/bin/xine05:02
maddlerI tried SUIDing05:02
Johannesensomeone actually managed to put a decent interface on Gimp.. check http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241 :)05:02
thoreauputicmaddler: sudo chmod 755 /usr/bin/xine05:02
black_nightmaresorry was afk05:02
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dashnuTomcat_, do you have anything to do with Jake ?05:02
MaRk-ITuxicity, was that you who asked me about doing the linksys wireless??05:02
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alexcrowleyGimp with a decent interface!? Blasphemy!!05:03
black_nightmaretuxi..so you saying that if I do 'make menuconfig' I could customize a bit further and easier?05:03
MaRk-Ior broadcom??05:03
Johannesencheck it out alexcrowley :)05:03
thoreauputicmaddler: you shouldn't have those s entries05:03
TuxicityMaRk-I, nope dont think so, i am wired05:03
maddlerthoreauputic: still the same... it keeps complaining about missing libdvdcss05:03
thoreauputicmaddler: that's different05:03
deFryskmaddler, get the marillat repo05:03
maddlerbut it works fine if launched from root user05:03
Tomcat_dashnu: Doesn't ring a bell.05:03
MaRk-ITuxicity, ohh sorry must've been another tux**05:03
thoreauputicmaddler: you need the Marillat repopsitories for that05:03
maddlerdeFrysk: I have libdvdcss05:03
deFryskoh srry05:04
dashnuah, its the java quake kinda neat05:04
black_nightmaretuxi....? :p05:04
Tuxicityblack_nightmare, yes. what method r u currently using?05:04
thoreauputicmaddler: did you chmod it?05:04
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maddlerlibdvdcss2 is already the newest version.05:04
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black_nightmaretuxi..well I'm looking at the mac_defconfig file in gedit right now :p05:04
ositybob2 you here today?05:05
maddlerthoreauputic: xine? yes... it is 755 now05:05
black_nightmareits the only file I'm actually working on right now..I'll have to figure starting on other files later on05:05
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thoreauputicmaddler: OK - what are th permissions on libdvdcss then?05:05
Tuxicityblack_nightmare, hmm honestly never heard of these...05:05
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black_nightmaretux...well... download 2.6.11.6 kernel then browse to arch>m68k>configs>05:06
black_nightmareand its there...and thats what I am editing right now05:06
black_nightmare:p05:06
osityis ssh the same as sftp?05:06
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maddler644 /usr/lib/libdvdcss.a05:06
maltewhat's up with gaim not displaying any icons?05:07
maddler755 /usr/lib/libdvdcss.la05:07
wfxosity, no05:07
malteis there a fix to that?05:07
scottosity, no, sftp is more interative for file transfers05:07
maddler644 /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2.0.705:07
wfx#1 is a secure shell acces #2 is a secure ftp05:07
thoreauputicmaddler: hmm... I don't know... will xine play ordinary files as a user? Non css ones?05:08
pregodeFrysk, yes, mozilla plugin is not compatible with Composite. If i do export  XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 and then run mozilla from that terminal, the plugin works fine.05:08
osityscott: well i just installed ssh on ubuntu....on my winscp proggie i can choose:  scp, sftp(allow scp fallback) or sftp05:08
maddlerthoreauputic: right05:08
lewwyquake1 for gba...05:09
lewwynow THATS crazy05:09
thoreauputicmaddler: is that "yes, ordinary video files will play" ?05:09
scotthow do I find out if hardware accel is working? I'm using the ati driver because I couldn't get fglrx to work, and using xcompmgr which runs a little laggy and I'm wondering if hardware accel is really working05:09
thoreauputicmaddler: if so, free up permissions on dvdcss and try again05:09
scottosity, on winscp I usually just use scp05:09
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thoreauputicmaddler: like try 75505:10
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Tuxicityscott: glxinfo | grep direct05:10
wfxwhere do i set the buffer for alsa aound05:10
lewwythis is so crazy...05:11
lewwyround the clock support05:11
lewwyi mean honestly05:11
maddlerthor|coffee: noway05:11
lewwyhow can we have a round the clock FREE usable tech support05:11
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scottTuxicity, no is bad?05:11
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black_nightmaretuxi..so 'make menuconfig' would let me kinda figure a custom kernel?  or did I guess wrong05:11
scottTuxicity, it says it's going through Mesa05:12
Tuxicityscott, no means no HW accel :(05:12
scottTuxicity, are you using fglrx?05:12
effigyblack, yes that will allow you to configure your kernel options05:12
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Tuxicityscott, ya fglrx on Warty05:13
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black_nightmarehmm....where to find menuconfig05:13
scottTuxicity, how do I go about debuggin why it won't work? I have ati mobility 750005:13
Tuxicityblack_nightmare, make menuconfig OR xconfig(not sure about this one) is the only way I know for makin a kernel :)05:13
pregoosity, between linux boxes I like doing rsync -e ssh auvz path1/ machine:path/path1/05:13
black_nightmareeffigy...I have the whole linux 2.6.11.6 kernel source downloaded here btw05:14
wfxblack_nightmare, cd to /etc/src/linux05:14
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black_nightmarewfx..hm there's no /etc/ in this folder...05:14
wfxblack_nightmare, im sorry /usr/src/linux05:14
Tuxicityblack_nightmare, www.ubuntu.com/wiki/kernelhowto05:14
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black_nightmarethere's only three files in /usr/ nothing else05:15
black_nightmaretuxi..I said this is the linux kernel source --- jeeze lol05:15
wfxyou dont have src dir05:15
scott"sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx" gives me FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-4-386/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): No such device05:15
Tuxicityscott, did you follow instructions on Wiki?05:16
scottyeah05:16
wfxblack_nightmare, do you download youre one kernel?05:16
scottTuxicity, all it says is install the package, echo it to modules, and then run that command05:16
black_nightmarewfx.... yeah, 2.6.11.6 kernel source -- where else? :)05:16
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black_nightmarebeside I want to make the kernel for a m68k so I had to download the whole source for that reason anyhow05:17
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Tuxicityscott, Warty/Hoary?05:18
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scotthoarty05:19
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honeI upgraded to hoary RC and it won't install x05:19
honedependency issues w/ xorg-common and xfree86-common05:19
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wfxblack_nightmare, hmm the wiki say all ;-)05:20
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apokryphoshone: that's fine. Remove the xfree05:20
apokryphoshone: Xorg is default in Hoary.05:21
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effigyblack, if menuconfig dosnt work for some reason you could try 'make config' and go through all the prompts05:21
PacoBCNjust wondering how many residual packages you have when migrating from warty to hoary...05:22
effigyi think05:22
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apokryphosPacoBCN: the upgrade is around 500 megs05:22
dabugashi05:22
Tuxicityscott, make sure you have "linux-restricted-modules" installed (it must match the version of the running kernel)05:23
black_nightmarehrm 'make config' is trying to use a 68605:23
PacoBCNapokryphos, it makes sense to save all your home directory somewhere and reinstall it, as I did05:23
black_nightmareI do NOT want that :|05:23
black_nightmarehow do I make it select a m68k platform?05:23
apokryphosPacoBCN: No, not really.05:23
PacoBCNapokryphos, really? I find it much clearer05:23
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apokryphosPacoBCN: it saves some stuff; but essentially, there's no need to go through the whole installation process again05:24
wfxblack_nightmare, change the cpu type via menuconfig05:24
Tuxicitydabugas, hi05:24
apokryphosPacoBCN: this way is certainly much quicker05:24
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dabugashow does gnome determine which file systems are mounted or not?05:24
osityscott: what is scp?05:25
black_nightmarewffx.. menuconfig seem to error out so I changed to 'config' which somehow progresses fine05:25
PacoBCNI remember I first upgraded it and I had many problems05:25
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osityscott: i thought by using winscp i was using ssh05:25
black_nightmareor should I rather try get menuconfig running?05:25
PacoBCNthen I reinstalled it and no problems at all05:25
Tuxicitydabugas, are you refering to /etc/fstab ?05:25
theinehey, great new gdm login screen...05:25
apokryphosPacoBCN: stable -> stable apt upgrade is fully supported05:25
thoreauputicdabugas: not really a gnome function: fstab and mtab05:25
apokryphosPacoBCN: in theory, you shouldn't have any problems (I didn't).05:25
PacoBCNI'm always the exception to everything :)05:26
PacoBCNthe story of my life05:26
wfxblack_nightmare, vim .config and go to line ~6305:26
osityisnt wincsp an ssh client?05:26
scottTuxicity, it's installed05:26
dabugasthoreauputic: well, in my upgrade from warty to hoary my windows drive disappeared from gnome menus. it's still in fstab and i can still access it with a console but not, for example, with abiword05:26
Lena14anyone know if there is an EASY floppy-install to ubuntu ??05:26
Johannesenosity, I believe it is05:27
thoreauputicdabugas: is the auto flag set in fstab?05:27
dabugasthoreauputic: no, should it?05:27
osityi get a network error when i try to scp in05:27
Johannesenosity, it uses SFTP05:27
black_nightmarehow do you quit vim anyhow?05:27
thoreauputicdabugas: no, it isn't here :)05:28
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robosblack_nightmare,  Esc : wq05:28
Tuxicityblack_nightmare, i think type colon followed by q05:28
wfxblack_nightmare, i think you must select: CONFIG_X86_PC=n, CONFIG_M386=n, CONFIG_MK6 =y, CONFIG_X86_*=n05:28
Tuxicityrobos, oh05:28
dabugasthoreauputic: this my relative fstab line --> /dev/hda1       /media/windows    vfat    umask=000       0       005:28
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osityis putty secure?05:29
robososity, yes05:29
effigywq saves, if you dont want to save do esc-q!05:29
thoreauputicdabugas: is your win filesystem fat32 or ntfs? ( sounds obvious I know)05:29
wfxblack_nightmare, do you compile it on a sparc or pc system?05:29
Lena14osity, depends on what u do with it... ssh is secure.. but telnet is not so very secure..05:29
osityrobos: how does putty get in? what technology05:29
dabugasthoreauputic: fat3205:29
black_nightmarewhere is the '.config' file ?? *sigh*05:29
thoreauputicdabugas: OK05:29
black_nightmarewhen I try start vim it appears as empty file05:30
black_nightmareI'm compiling it on pc05:30
osityit seems that putty is like telnet05:30
robosblack_nightmare,  /boot/config-bla bla05:30
wfxblack_nightmare, do you run a sparc?05:30
dabugasthoreauputic: my question is: what could change from warty to hoary that made such a difference?05:30
black_nightmarecompile on pc....for a m68k laptop05:30
robosblack_nightmare, copy that to .config05:30
black_nightmarego figure on that05:30
effigyputty can do telnet, ssh, ssh2 i think05:30
black_nightmarewhere is .config first?? lol05:30
thoreauputicdabugas: frank answer- I haven't the foggiest idea05:30
robosblack_nightmare, do you really wanna do this if you have these sort of questions?05:31
osityso why cant i login to my ubuntu box with eith of winscp or putty?05:31
thoreauputicdabugas: I just thought I'd ask the obvious question...05:31
Johannesenblack_nightmare, :x05:31
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robososity, do you have manual access to the machine? I.e. can you check if sshd is running?05:31
bmoihi all. anybody know how i can get the totem-mozilla plugin to play mp3s in the browser?05:31
black_nightmarerobos...jeeze is it my fault I'm not having much difficult figuring out 'mac_deconfig' but anything else doesn't even seem to be there?05:31
dabugasthoreauputic: k, thanks :)05:31
osityrobo: yes05:31
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black_nightmarethere's no /etc/ in the kernel folder etc etc05:32
osityrobos: good idea ...how do i check05:32
robososity, try this: /etc/init.d/sshd restart05:32
Tuxicityblack_nightmare, there might not be a .config if u never used menuconfig before05:32
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black_nightmaretuxi..hmm..let me run menuconfig and paste its error here...05:32
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robosblack_nightmare, okay, I didn't quite get what you are doing, but under /boot/ lie the config files of the installed kernels05:33
wfxblack_nightmare, no etc inside kernel source is ok and dont forget the first slash means root05:33
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black_nightmare">> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries." thats what makeconfig says05:33
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black_nightmarewfx..yeah I already know that one...ty anyhow ;)05:33
effigyinstall ncurses library05:34
black_nightmare '/' is like the highest directory you can go to ;)05:34
osityrobos: the sshd is not in there....05:34
robosblack_nightmare, go install synaptic and search for ncurses05:34
ositydoes that mean its not installed....05:34
robososity, then you need to install it :)05:34
robososity, in synaptic, search ssh05:34
effigyapt-get install sshd05:34
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osityrobos: i thought i did.. :05:34
osityi'll try again05:34
robososity, oh well05:34
dockanei wrote bashscript that connects me to my dialup provider, how do i make a desktop icon for it ? the script works from terminal but a "starter" with the path to the script as command entry does not work05:35
osityrobos: i thought it was apt-get install openssh-server?05:35
markumanhow can i found out the ip adresse whicht ubuntu give me for network?05:35
black_nightmareok apt-get is installing libncurses5-dev05:35
dockanemurkuman : terminal -> ifconfig05:35
robososity, sounds right, but look again in synaptic if it is really installed.05:35
wfxblack_nightmare, i bet you got an error like this. "Unable to find the Ncurses libraries." and some lines under " You must install ncurses-devel in order..."05:35
thoreauputiceffigy: actually it's just "ssh" for the package in debian/ubuntu05:36
Tuxicitymarkuman, ifconfig05:36
markuman ipconfig05:36
markumanbash: ipconfig: command not found05:36
effigyoops05:36
maddlerthoreauputic: solved... I had to recompile libdvdcss05:36
Tuxicitymarkuman, no --> ifconfig05:36
thoreauputicmarkuman: ifconfig05:36
robosmarkuman,  ifconfig05:36
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thoreauputicmaddler: ah - OK :)05:36
osityrobos: so whats the diff between my commnad and yours?05:36
markumanwhooopps :-D05:36
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pregomarkuman, /sbin/ifconfig05:36
markumanthx05:37
robososity, well, ssh is a meta package for openssh-server, so that you can find it more easy05:37
thoreauputicmarkuman: how's your windows hangover ? heheh05:37
black_nightmareughh I thought my hd would fly apart once again....but anyhow now I got 'linux kernel configuration' gui running05:37
Tuxicitymarkuman, stands for InterFaceConfig05:37
black_nightmaresometimes I bloody wonder about my pc05:37
markumanok05:37
black_nightmarethe hd often grinding quite a lot thanks to linux's heavy useage on it05:37
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markuman<thoreauputic>, i've no more windows :-D05:38
dockanebtw what is the ng interface ubuntu starts ?05:38
Johannesenwhat was the line if I wanted ssh to create a socks tunnel? something like ssh -D1080 servername ?05:38
thoreauputicmarkuman: :)05:38
black_nightmare'select only drivers expected to compile cleanly' would be the best option I already take it?05:38
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osityrobos: it said it cant find the sshd package with your command...05:39
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robososity, I didn't say to use apt-get, I said take a look in synaptic, that tells you what to use05:39
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robosJohannesen, take a look at the man-page of ssh, there are examples at the end05:40
alleBack05:40
DalkusOOo2 released tomorow05:40
alleNow we have 3D acceleration and the family's kid is happy :)05:41
thoreauputicosity: the package is just called ssh05:41
robosDalkus, grr, installed the beta yesterday ... ;-)05:41
Tuxicityalle, kewl05:41
thoreauputicosity: for server+ client05:41
Dalkusrobos, me too :)05:41
Dalkusrobos, I guess it won't be in the ubuntu repository for a while..?05:41
robosdunno, I think they wait at least a week, would make sense05:42
Johannesenrobos, thanks.. Managed to get it to work05:42
ositythoreauputic: what are trying to say?05:42
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robososity, if you want to use apt, try apt-cache search ssh05:42
dockanei read in the ubuntu faq that sudo reduces the time somebody works with root and has got other advantages. but how can it be and advantage that if i leave my workplace for a moment with an open terminal where i "sudid" a command the terminal no more asks for any password i.e. for "rm -r /*" ?05:43
thoreauputicosity: to install ssh and sshd, do sudo apt-get ssh05:43
thoreauputicsorry apt-get install ssh05:43
markumangtk-gnutella does not connect? i've 0.93.3 stable05:43
alleDoes somebody have an idea how you get FlightGear to use OpenGL? Every game uses it except FlightGear...05:43
apokryphosdockane: you can close the session05:43
black_nightmareughh I dunno if its just  me but the gui seem stuck to ONLY x86 hardwares05:44
apokryphosdockane: that means it'll ask for a password the next time you go on05:44
pregodockane, AFAIK, sudo privileges are canceled some time before...05:44
black_nightmareguess I'll go back to manually editing text files for a 68k kernel unless I'm missing something05:44
wfxdoes anyone of you know a way to convert png(b&w) to vrml?05:44
dabugasi'm offfff05:44
roboswfx, try looking in freshmeat.net for vrml05:45
pregodockane, furthermore, you should place sudo prior to that "rm ..." in order to make it effective, nevertheless05:45
roboswfx, I don't think that imagemagick can do it05:45
black_nightmaredo I have to use a 68k computer to compile a 68k kernel or what...anyone? lol05:45
Tuxicitymarkuman, try version 0.95 (work for me) OR install Limewire (see ubuntuguide.org)05:45
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pregodockane, which is more likely not to happen as compared to forgetting you are root... sudo enforces you to place sudo each time a root action is to be requested05:46
wfxrobos, need a way to use a bitmap as 3d object in blender05:46
robosblack_nightmare, why do you try to compile an kernel for 68k anyway? Why not use a debian kernel?05:46
black_nightmarerobos....can it work for a 68030 @ 25mhz with just 4mb of ram?05:46
roboswfx, bitmap <--> 3d? Sounds strange05:46
black_nightmarehmm say..not sure if that was 4mb or 8mb..will need check the ram card in it05:47
robosblack_nightmare, I think you are better of with some debian kernel than trying to trim a kernel down yourself05:47
thoreauputicblack_nightmare: I think 4Mb would be impossible 8 perhaps...05:47
wfxrobos, yes but it isnt i have some images as texture that i want to map to a object with the same geometrie05:47
[nrx] geometry :)05:48
black_nightmarethore....well system 7.0 already does with just 1MB of ram and thats with a gui already being there05:48
Tuxicitymarkuman, u can get gtk-gnutella 0.95 .DEB package from www.sf.net05:48
black_nightmareso why is it seeming impossible to just get a kernel alone on the similar machine?05:48
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roboswfx, well, I don't know blender but I know a little opengl and there you simply need bitmaps with factor of 2 geometry05:48
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stianhHello05:48
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Tuxicityrobos, not in recent opengl 2.0 i think05:49
markuman<Tuxicity> , yes, i have donwload it from there yet and it works. thx!!!05:49
stianhSomething wacky happened to my bootloader. So now I am using the ubuntu live cd, and I want to reinstall the old bootloaderconfig05:49
black_nightmarehm reminds me of the time of trying minix for a short time but it was erroring too much I quit using it (might be with trying to run it on top of a ppc processor in emulator mode)05:49
stianhcan anyone hlp_05:49
robosblack_nightmare,  well, your system 7 was tuned to the machine, linux is general purpose.05:49
Tuxicitymarkuman, ur welcome!05:49
wfxrobos, i dont know opengl ;) but i want to convert this http://teg.sourceforge.net/data/screenshot/teg_connect_meta.jpg for a teg client in 3d05:49
robosTuxicity, yes, but should I write a book just to say a small info :)05:49
thoreauputicblack_nightmare: AFAIK even linux 0.1 needed more than that in RAM, but that's just from reading about it...05:49
[nrx] stianh, you can boot from the live cd, pass the "root=/dev/hda1 (orwhatever yours is) and edit your grub.conf there05:50
dockaneapokryphos, i testet it : opened a terminal, tried apt-get update-> permission deniend, then tried sudo apt-get update-> have to enter password. closed the terminal. opened a new terminal. sudo apt-get update -> no question to enter password.05:50
Tuxicityrobos, :)05:50
maddlerthoreauputic: btw.. looks like there is smtg wrong with libdvdcss 1.2.805:50
maddler1.2.5 works fine...05:50
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wfxrobos, does this mean i dont need to make some object that fit to the textures?05:50
robosand I think no driver up to now really has opengl 2 functionality05:51
thoreauputicmaddler: hmmm... I guess Marillat is the guy to consult on libdvdcss05:51
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mrdibblerHello05:51
dockaneprego, of course i see the userfriendlyness of this but to me the whole sudo thing behave's a bit strange as i mentioned above05:51
ositythoreauputic: the install ssh worked.....:)  bu i dont have internet connection05:51
[nrx] bye05:51
maddlerthoreauputic: I bet05:51
robosdockane, it remembers password for some time, like 2 minutes or so05:51
stianhnrx: but how to I install grub correctly, the thing is that It might have been overwritten or messed with by another distro05:51
black_nightmarethore...so mind explaining why the 2.6.11.6 kernel source has a m68k arch folder in it?  (and even mac_deconfig has the option for a 68020 processor...thats like only 1-8MB of ram)05:51
ositythoreauputic: how do i check if the nic is installed?05:51
black_nightmareso there *must* be a kernel for a low-ram arch already05:51
osityon my previous system it just picked it up....05:51
[nrx] stianh, when you load up from /dev/hda1 just "apt-get install grub"05:52
mrdibblerhi can anyone help with gnome cd recorder not working in Hoary please?05:52
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thoreauputicosity: lspci, lsmod05:52
[nrx] or dpkg -r grub05:52
[nrx] then apt-get install grub05:52
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[nrx] i gotta go05:52
[nrx] soryr05:52
stianhnrx> ok thanks, I will give that a try05:52
dockanerobos, even if the terminal is closed and a new one is opened ? where do change this ?05:52
dockane*i05:52
black_nightmaremaybe I'll just see if I can find a free/cheap ppc powerbook instead and leave this 68k to running mac terminals05:52
emrys_Hi there!05:52
pregodockane, I've liked it from the second day I used it. It is clean, sweet and forces you to make sure you are going to lanuch a root action... Now I see using root account as a bad practice...05:52
mrdibblerHe emrys05:52
v3n0mhey all can someone tell me how to burn the ISO.ab image of SUSE onto a dvd with nero 6 on windows!?05:52
robosdockane, dunno ...05:53
mrdibblersorry i meant hi!05:53
|QuaD-v3n0m: /join #suse05:53
pregowfx, that is a Risk like game, isn't it?05:53
emrys_This is a good place to ask for help?05:53
apokryphosdockane: that should NOT be happening. Doesn't happen here05:53
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wfxprego, yes why only develop very slow ;-)05:53
robosemrys_, yes05:53
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wfxwe not why05:54
apokryphosdockane: what terminal are you using?05:54
wfx;)05:54
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apokryphosdockane: Aha. I see it does indeed happen with the Gnome terminal05:54
pregowfx, is it GTK-1?05:54
wfxgtk205:55
dockaneapokryphos, you cannot reconstruct this apt-get thing ? i use the gnome terminal05:55
emrys_I'm in deep trouble with Kubuntu... There is no control panel, Konkeror does not work for watching folders... I can't acces any configuration window...05:55
roboswfx, IIRC there was some howto on the blender page where they taught you such stuff. Did you look at that already?05:55
airoxHi.05:55
apokryphos(dockane: I normally use konsole). Hmm, that shouldn't really be happening; likely it has a process running even when it's closed05:55
pregowfx, ;-)) nice job. is it avilable at repositories?05:55
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wfxit si :) and thx05:55
wfxis05:55
wfxrobos, nop i take a look05:56
dockaneapokryphos, so is it a bug or a feature ?05:56
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roboswfx, it wasn't _that_ good but better n nothing :)05:56
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apokryphosdockane: I think that's probably worth reporting, yes.05:56
meatmanekdoes Ubuntu use the apt package system?05:57
apokryphosmeatmanek: yes05:57
dockaneapokryphos, where may i report this ?05:57
apokryphosdockane: bugzilla.ubuntu.com05:57
meatmanekapokryphos, thx.05:57
robosmeatmanek, yes05:57
wfxprego, im stil work on this http://teg.sourceforge.net/data/groups/developer/wfx/sentimental2.png (give me some month and i have it finished:-)05:57
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snowblinkCan anyone confirm the ruby version which will come with Hoary?05:57
robosmeatmanek, try synaptic, thats a nice frontend05:57
apokryphosmeatmanek: www.ubuntulinux.org will likely answer most of the questions you'll have05:57
wfxrobos, thx a lot. i go to read something i found05:57
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Johannesen1.805:58
scottI installed gdesklets, and ran it (which starts the daemon) but how do I get the desklets to appear ?05:58
meatmanekapokryphos, k05:58
Johannesensnowblink, why05:58
meatmanekapokryphos, I'm having a very very slight inkling that I might switch to ubuntu sometime05:58
roboswfx, your welcome05:58
ositythoreauputic: i got a list of stuff... not sure what to check ...can i check in in gui?05:58
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apokryphosmeatmanek: what are you currently on?05:59
snowblinkJohannesen, 1.8.2?05:59
meatmanekapokryphos, gentoo05:59
drspinThis should be included in Hoary ------> http://codemills.com/blog/?p=405:59
drspinLOL05:59
drspinj/k05:59
Johannesensnowblink, 1.8.2pre4-105:59
meatmanekapokryphos, the only problem I'm having right now with gentoo is that I partitioned my / partition too small.05:59
snowblinkJohannesen, I'm going to install a Rails server with the new Hoary release05:59
effigyi agree, gimps interface sucks05:59
emrys_Please... someone can help me??06:00
Johannesensnowblink, ah i see06:00
apokryphosmeatmanek: I've only used Gentoo briefly, but Ubuntu is a good distro to go with.06:00
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adobbieGentoo sucks06:00
drspinGimp's interface is quite intuitive... if you're not a Photoshop user... then it sucks06:00
drspinwhich I am...06:00
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effigyim a gentoo to ubuntu convert, i wouldnt go back06:00
meatmanekI don't want to start a distro war06:00
meatmaneksorry 'bout that.06:00
apokryphosmeatmanek: pacey, huge repositories, debian-backbone, sound philosophy etc.06:00
Johannesengentoo is like always in beta mode :D06:00
adobbiemeatmanek: I say that in Gentoo channels all the time06:01
robosdrspin, take a look at slashdot.org, front page, a little down06:01
apokryphosmeatmanek: Heh, don't worry about it. :)06:01
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apokryphosmeatmanek: how big is your /?06:01
drspinrobos: that's how I found it ;)06:01
robosemrys_,  go ahead, ask your question06:01
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meatmanekapokryphos, 1.9 gigs06:01
meatmanekapokryphos, the main problem is I didn't create a separate partition for /var06:01
airoxdrspin: That gimpshop seems _very_ nice :)06:01
apokryphosmeatmanek: Yeouch. Definitely too small.06:01
meatmanekso /var/tmp is on there06:01
meatmanekas is /tmp06:02
drspinanyone wanna assist with an fstab issue?06:02
emrys_Ok, thank u06:02
drspinairox: indeed it does -- I think I'm going to see if I can't get it compiled today...06:02
adobbiedrspin: man fstab06:02
black_nightmarethore....just for a quick fyi... look at this excerpt http://pastebin.ca/8601 then look at this particular 68k mac http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_lc/stats/mac_lc.html06:02
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apokryphosmeatmanek: I normally stick with just the / and /home (and SWAP).06:02
drspinadobbie: not that kind of issue...06:02
black_nightmarethats very small standard ram it comes with (the LC)06:02
meatmanekapokryphos, yeah. This partition scheme is back from when I used mandrake, I was just too lazy to repartition it.06:02
meatmanekwell06:02
emrys_I Installed Kubuntu in a AMD64 system. I installed it from Ubuntu. But there is no control panel, Konkeror does not work for watching folders... I can't acces any configuration window..06:02
meatmanekback up everything in /home06:02
meatmanekand repartition06:02
apokryphosmeatmanek: it's really worth repartitioning. :)06:02
robosdrspin, go ahead06:02
apokryphosYeah.06:03
airoxdrspin, go ahead06:03
meatmanekapokryphos, yeah, hehee.06:03
airox:)06:03
nydustwhat is best web dev app aka golive ect?06:03
drspin# /dev/hda7/mnt/musicautodefaults,umask=00006:03
drspinnydust: nvu06:03
apokryphosemrys_: those are #kubuntu issues; probably have more luck in there.06:03
meatmanekapokryphos, the good thing is that I will have a 160G hard drive as well as my 80G in here soon06:03
apokryphosmeatmanek: Sweet06:03
drspinI get invalid type -- even when I change auto to ext206:03
emrys_ooops sorry06:03
emrys_thanks06:03
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robosemrys_, did you try logging in as root to see if it works then?06:04
meatmanekapokryphos, so I think I might partition the 80G as / and /home, and mount the 160G as /home/meatmanek06:04
airox:)06:04
apokryphosrobos: please don't tell memebers to login into GUI root. :)06:04
airoxhahaha06:04
apokryphosmeatmanek: Heh. Do you plan on having other users there?06:04
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emrys_logging as root???06:04
Quinn_Stormmeatmanek: what in the world do you need with that kind of hd space? just curious, b/c I'm having trouble figuring out how I'll ever fill my 80 even with 3 os's installed on it06:04
robosapokryphos, if it doesn't work as normal user, what should he do? if it works as root then permissions are borked06:05
black_nightmareanyhow I'm going off now...and if I still can't get the pc to make a 68k kernel at all then I'll just have to see if an old mac os can even compile a kernel at all for its own hardware06:05
black_nightmarebye06:05
emrys_I thought there is no root in kubuntu06:05
apokryphosemrys_: better not ;-)06:05
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airoxQuinn_Storm: It's called pr0n ;)06:05
apokryphosemrys_: there isn't.06:05
meatmanekQuinn_Storm, I dunno, /dev/hda7              68G   53G   15G  78% /home06:05
Johannesendrspin, why umask 000?06:05
falkarsony designed a new attery pack for psp : http://tinyurl.com/4jrmf06:05
meatmanekand no, actually, I don't have any pr0n on there06:05
apokryphosrobos: he should, of course, create a new one06:05
airoxhehe06:05
apokryphosrobos: you should never be logging into GUI root06:05
Quinn_Stormmeatmanek: wow06:05
meatmanekI could clean quite a bit of that out.06:05
apokryphosrobos: well, or root altogether for that matter, generally.06:05
airoxyou should never login as root even :)06:06
meatmanekbut I already have the hard drive06:06
robosyou shouldn't browse around the net as root,06:06
emrys_anyway, I execute konkeror with sudo but it is unusable06:06
meatmanekit's just a matter of backing up the old stuff06:06
robosbut in case where permissions might be the problem, you might as well try and see if it works for root06:06
apokryphosmeatmanek: yeah06:06
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Quinn_Stormmeatmanek: its easy to back it up with cp to the other hd06:06
meatmanekQuinn_Storm, I mean the stuff on the 160G.06:07
Quinn_Stormmeatmanek: ahhh, ok06:07
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robosapokryphos,  but in case where permissions might be the problem, you might as well try and see if it works for root06:07
apokryphosrobos: No, you really shouldn't. This should be in the FAQ or something somewhere...06:07
robosapokryphos, i didn't tell him to always login to root06:07
meatmanekQuinn_Storm, the fun part about that is it's from a Mac, and so formatted HFS+06:08
abellihi ppl ... if i try to right click -> proprieties on a mp3, nautilus gets restarted, is this something known?06:08
apokryphosrobos: I know, but you shouldn't tell him to at all. Ubuntu uses sudo, and there's no graphical root for a reason. =)06:08
Quinn_Stormmeatmanek: heh, well I think linux can handle reading that06:08
thoreauputic_isn't logging into gnome from gdm as root disabled by defaukt?06:08
thoreauputic_*default06:08
apokryphosthoreauputic: tis06:08
airoxthoreauputic: yes.06:08
robosapokryphos, I come from a strong debian background :)06:08
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meatmanekQuinn_Storm, kind of... I'll have to set up netatalk in order to transfer the Resource fork06:08
thoreauputic_that's what I thought (hoped ) :)06:08
apokryphosrobos: Heh. Ah, on the road to a full conversion. ;-)06:09
emrys_Anyway, sudo seems not to work, and the problem is wider06:09
Quinn_Stormmeatmanek: ahh, yeah, stupid mac and their resource forks06:09
robosapokryphos, yes, converting other people :))06:09
emrys_I mean, I can't navigate through folders with konkeror!!!06:09
drspinJohannesen: as I understand it the umask=000 allows any user to RW to the drve...06:09
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Johannesenno just root06:09
apokryphoshehe06:09
robosemrys_, try open a konsole and there, type this: ls -l /folders/that/you/want/to/see06:09
meatmanekQuinn_Storm, yeah, well, the Resource fork is kind of a good idea.06:09
drspinJohannesen: well it's working LOL06:10
meatmanekit's not much different than the .text section of a program06:10
ositythoreauputic: i got a list of stuff... not sure what to check ...can i check in in gui?06:10
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meatmanekwell, it kind of is.06:10
meatmanekbut shh.06:10
reagleBRKLNhello everyone, has anyone gotten ubuntu  to work with a dimension 2400?06:11
thoreauputic_osity: device manager I guess06:11
superted_reagleBRKLN: is that a laptop?06:11
robosreagleBRKLN, whats the problem?06:11
thoreauputic_osity: what's wrong with ` less lspci` or `less lsmod` ?06:11
drspinJohannesen: what I want is something set so that all files copied to the drive are chgrp mygroup and chown me with RWXR-X-R-- perms06:11
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drspinthoreauputic_: wouldn't it be lspci |less and lsmod|less06:12
drspin??06:12
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robosdrspin, yes, you are right06:12
thoreauputic_drspin: oops - of course, yes06:12
robosdrspin, but, less `lspci` should work :)06:13
thoreauputic_osity: drspin is right06:13
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Quinn_Stormrobos: nope, that'll have less looking for files called every line of lspci06:13
ositythoreauputic: I dont know what to look for.....06:13
drspinrobos: cole@TheDesktop:~ $ less lspci06:13
drspinrobos: lspci: No such file or directory06:13
robosQuinn_Storm, yes, my error :)06:13
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robosdrspin, sorry sorry :)06:14
airoxdrspin: lspci | less06:14
robosdrspin, just wanted to toy06:14
drspinrobos: no worries :)06:14
thoreauputic_osity: are you trying to see if the module/driver is loaded?06:14
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ositythoreauputic: i want to get my internet working....it's not .....what do i check for?06:15
Johannesendrspin, isn't that something like uid=XXX,gid=XXX06:15
Quinn_Stormosity: start with ifconfig -a06:15
ositythoreauputic: my previous ubuntu box just worked...no configurtion....this is an onboard nic06:15
robososity, what nic?06:15
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pregowfx, wow 'teg' is a really must-have game :-))) very nice!06:16
Quinn_Stormteg? what's a teg?06:16
wfxprego, thx a lot but we have a lot todo06:16
robososity, lspci | grep Ether06:16
robospaste that line06:16
pregowfx, It's been very funny to recall that Risk- days ...06:17
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pregoQuinn_Storm, apt-get install teg06:17
drspinis alien pretty reliable?06:17
ositythoreauputic: ok it must work cuz i can ping my lan06:17
pregoQuinn_Storm, also, teg.sourceforge.net06:17
damjanIs there a plan for Ubuntu for SPARC64?06:17
wfxprego, want to play against me?06:17
thoreauputic_osity: can you ping, say google.com ?06:18
ositythoreauputic: but i cant ping outside...06:18
pregowfx, he, he, I'm not that good ;-P06:18
ositythoreauputic:cant ping google...06:18
wfxprego, its a game :-)06:18
thoreauputic_osity: can you ping IP numbers?06:18
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ositythoreauputic:like what?06:19
pregowfx, I've been beaten so miserably by your robots.... Even Cameron Diaz has won over me!06:19
Quinn_Stormhey anyone wanna play teg?06:19
reagleBRKLNsuperted,robos: its a desktop. I suspect that X.org is not working with the i810/i845 internal graphic chipset06:19
meatmanekosity, try 64.233.167.14706:19
robosping 216.239.57.9906:19
pregowfx, beaten06:19
thoreauputic_osity: try ping  216.239.39.9906:19
libbenwtf, if i want to remove xchat... cause its bugging on my system, and reinstall it dident help.... it wants to remove alot of stuf ubuntu-desktop and fping and even more.06:19
thoreauputic_any of the above :D06:19
reagleBRKLNthis seems to say that http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?s=19e13e09c7cd47ca35595e4ffe4b80de&searchid=44431306:19
robosreagleBRKLN, I have an i830 in the machine I'M typing on right now06:20
dazed|how come i can ping my nsf server 'Initial-Laptop' but i most certainly cannot mount it?06:20
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ositythoreauputic:it says network is unreachable06:20
dazed|nsf* client*06:20
dazed|nfs*06:20
reagleBRKLNor rather, I've seen it said that previous versions of ubuntu worked but not ?something? 606:20
pregowfx, have you evaluated the possibility of a svg map?06:20
robosdazed|, because ping and nfs are two __very__ different services06:21
pregowfx, perhaps via a theme?06:21
thoreauputic_osity: can you ping the router?06:21
adobbiedazed|: do you get an error?06:21
dazed|adobbie: yes06:21
robosreagleBRKLN, in the xorg.conf it should say "i810" in the driver line06:21
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dazed|mount: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused06:21
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reagleBRKLNif I want to use it as a live CD, is there any sense when it would do this automatically?06:22
thoreauputic_dazed|: check /etc/default/portmap06:22
libbenshould i update the things that the update-notifier points out?06:22
libbenit says 316 updates06:22
thoreauputic_dazed|: comment out the line that says  ARGS="-i 127.0.0.1"06:23
dazed|thoreauputic_: i think it is my portmap cuz i check var/log/syslog and i got some portmap errors but let me check what u said06:23
ositythoreauputic:ya i can ping the router06:23
thoreauputic_dazed|: it's a crazy default that makes it only liisten on loopback06:24
dazed|thoreauputic_: ARGS="-i 127.0.0.1"06:24
Xeon3Dlibben: I did and I'm still here...06:24
dazed|thats all it gives me06:24
thoreauputic_dazed|: comment that line out06:24
thoreauputic_or delete it06:24
wfxprego, i like svg very mutch (http://wfx.deviantart.com/) but it is a lot work to make a worldmap that looks realy good.06:24
dazed|ohhh u want me to comment it out06:24
thoreauputic_dazed|: yup06:25
robosreagleBRKLN, what do you mean by your last line?06:25
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adobbie# By default listen on all interfaces06:25
adobbie#OPTIONS="-i 127.0.0.1"06:25
adobbiethat's what you get on Debian06:25
dazed|thoreauputic_: now will i have to restart kernal and portmap then see if i can mount?06:25
Xeon3Dlibben: and now I got 30 more packages to update06:25
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libben=)06:25
thoreauputic_dazed|: yeah, restartportmap and nfs06:26
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MithsirHi! How do I make my firefox show java applets? I use amd6406:26
emrys_join #kubuntu06:26
wfxprego, a serve is running on: 212.183.32.162:2002 :-) if you like im ready ;-)06:26
reagleBRKLNIf I'm going to use it as a live CD, I would like it to boot properly, instead of having to go to a console, modify the configuration file, restart X, and then login to KDM or GDM06:26
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reagleBRKLNI suppose, what bug should I tracked, either in ubuntu  or upstream won the hardware detection?06:26
dazed|thoreauputic_: lol still gettin that nasty 'connection refused' error :(06:26
drspinI can't get TEG to let me connect to any server...06:27
thoreauputic_dazed|: :(06:27
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libben=) horay! one hour and 20 mins and counting =)06:27
adobbiedazed|: any firewall running at all?06:27
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Xeon3Dlibben what speed u got?06:27
dazed|thoreauptic: join me in #paste theres something in my /var/log/syslog i want to show u real quick...adobbie: negative06:27
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drspin*his06:28
thoreauputic_dazed|: /j #paste06:28
libbenmaxed speed  61 =)06:28
thoreauputic_ha06:28
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libbenI have cheap internet =) so i got lousy speed =) but its ok =) i can play and chat while its updating06:29
ositythoreauputic:  yes  i can ping the router any idea?06:29
libbenany good gnome text-games? or courses ?06:29
Xeon3Dwhy not X games?06:29
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libbenI had gtype earlier i think it was named that06:29
libbensupertux is also fun =)06:29
roboslibben, moon-buggy06:30
libbenrobos, fun ? =)06:30
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libbenhmm06:30
robosreagleBRKLN, I used knoppix on my machine and it worked okay06:30
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libbeni cant run synapt when updating the system?06:30
roboslibben, yes, quite hard actually :)06:30
PacoBCNI don't know you but msn messenger takes ages to login06:30
Johannesendrspin, I think you then need umask 023 - I think I was wrong with regards to 000, that gives permission for everyone, I just learned06:30
reagleBRKLNyes, I installation is from a knoppix 3.606:30
Xeon3Dlibben, nope.. because then there are 2 programs trying to access the package database..06:31
Xeon3Dand only one can be doing that at a moment.06:31
libbendamnit =)06:31
reagleBRKLNoh, btw: does ubuntu support losetup -e AES128?06:31
robosreagleBRKLN, you installed knoppix? I did that a while too but I don't recoomend any more since knoppix is too much of a mix of stable, testing, unstable, experimental...06:31
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robosreagleBRKLN, see if there is a kernel module in the crypto dir06:31
robosmodprobe -l | grep crypt06:32
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reagleBRKLNrobos, yes, that is why I am considering ubuntu06:32
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reagleBRKLNrobos, i can't do that since i'm not running ubuntu! :)06:32
pumpoioplohi guys.. just wanna know what are the supported hardwares of ubuntu.. is there any website?06:32
robosreagleBRKLN,  uh, yes, you can06:33
robosknoppix also uses a debian kernel and that has modules too you know :)06:33
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meatmanekahh, good old knoppix.06:33
robospumpoioplo, if you have a fast line, try the live cd06:33
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libbenhmm... who created moon-buggy? i wanna find the official site06:33
saradiya_i got a 3com wireless card06:33
reagleBRKLNah, you are sure they use the same? for exaple, kanotix is based on knoppix and didn't support it06:33
dryadHi - I was wondering if Firestarter is on the Ubuntu CD?06:33
robostry freshmeat.net06:33
roboslibben, try freshmeat.net06:33
saradiya_ubuntu just isn't detecting it altho i have installed the atmel sources06:34
saradiya_can someone help me out ?06:34
saradiya_lvnet doesn't work06:34
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saradiya_says that card is not there06:34
robossaradiya_,  lspci | grep Ether06:34
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robossaradiya_, paste that line here06:34
wfxcu, and thx06:34
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robosreagleBRKLN, try the modprobe line and see what it says :)06:35
jjpmr52hi everyone !!06:35
roboshi06:35
libbenmoon-buggy_0.5.1-2_i386.deb latest?06:35
jjpmr52i have a question for the panel06:35
saradiya_robos, 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado]  (rev 78)06:35
robossaradiya_,  modprobe 3c59x06:36
jjpmr52what about amavis ?06:36
jjpmr52is it a good thing to install ?06:36
saradiya_robos, done06:36
libbenlol06:37
libbennever gonna install that =)06:37
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roboslibben, http://freshmeat.net/projects/moon-buggy/06:37
[nrx_] playing avi's... is it possible?06:37
robossaradiya_, ifconfig eth0 up06:37
libbenreminds me of my old AI bot i made that was challenged by other written AI war bots... cant remember what that program was called that runned the bots... was popular in the 90's06:37
MaRk-Ianyone knows why my wlan0 ip changes???06:37
saradiya_robos, ah so i guess i have to unplug my network cable first06:37
robossaradiya_,06:38
saradiya_robos, what do i need to add to modules.conf for it load up automatically the next time ?06:38
robossaradiya_, no, don't need this06:38
[nrx_] MaRk-I, dhcp?06:38
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MaRk-I[nrx_] , yes06:38
saradiya_robos, ?06:38
ositygotta run thanks thoreauputic_!06:38
robossaradiya_, simply add a line with 3c59x, thats all06:38
[nrx_] MaRk-I, that'll be why it's changing, then?06:38
jjpmr52thanks anyway06:38
Johannesenis there any good graphical manpage viewer?06:38
MaRk-I[nrx_] , but never did b4 in MDK06:39
roboskonqueror can view mangapes06:39
robosman-pages06:39
[nrx_] MaRk-I, obviously wasn't dhcp, then06:39
saradiya_robos, alias ?06:39
MaRk-I[nrx_] , yes it was06:39
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robossaradiya_, sorry, meant modules, not modules.conf06:39
robossaradiya_, /etc/modules06:39
saradiya_ok06:39
[nrx_] MaRk-I, depends how it's setup. If the mac address tables in the device have been changed then it may trigger that off.06:39
[nrx_] MaRk-I, but if you're concerned about not having a static ip, then turn dhcp off06:40
pregoI'm upgrading pango right now, what will happen to open GTK apps? and to the ones I fire up next to upgrade?06:40
Johannesenrobos, I don't have konqueror.. do you use KDE?06:40
saradiya_robos, going to reboot06:40
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MaRk-I[nrx_] , the thing is it changes every reboot and I have to dhclient every time06:40
robossaradiya_, why?06:40
libbenanyother games that could be recommend while i wait an hour for the updating... =), btw, how do u make the last map on tuxracer? im allways 2 secs of from the goal ,..grrr06:40
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robosJohannesen, I use gnome, kde, enlightenment...06:41
[nrx_] MaRk-I, is there a reason for using dhcp?06:41
MaRk-I[nrx_] , thats the only way I could get it to work06:41
adobbielibben: once you figure it out you can beat it by 2s easily06:41
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robossaradiya_, why do you want to reboot?06:41
[nrx_] MaRk-I, how come?06:41
MaRk-Imanual configuration didnt do it06:42
PacoBCNis google extremely slow for you too?06:42
libbenyeah, im thinking of gaining speed by making the ice hill on the sides... but i havent figured out the path06:42
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MaRk-Ialso iwconfig doesnt retain the configuration i.e. essid and key06:42
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[nrx_] MaRk-I, strange.. not too sure what you've done then06:42
nydustwhere are software stored?06:43
MaRk-I[nrx_] , hhmm I just rebooted the pc06:43
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dreamwavehi.  i've got ubuntu (hoary) and windows xp dual boot.  Right now, grub boots to ubuntu as default.  How do I change the default to boot to windows XP?06:43
robosnydust, try "which program-name"06:43
MaRk-Iwlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any06:43
MaRk-I          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437GHz  Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:0006:43
robosdreamwave, can't be done, sorry ;-))06:43
dreamwave:)06:43
MaRk-Iwlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"linksys"06:43
MaRk-I          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437GHz  Access Point: 00:0F:66:3E:9B:FF06:43
Johannesenrobos, ok :)06:43
MaRk-Iafter dhclient06:44
roboslook in /boot/grub/menu.1st06:44
[nrx_] MaRk-I, seems as though there's something wrong with your configuration06:44
robosdreamwave, look in /boot/grub/menu.1st06:44
msumu_sofieMaRk-I, si this the final realease of hoary ?06:44
MaRk-Imsumu_sofie, warty06:44
dreamwaverobos: okay.  thanks06:44
robosdreamwave,06:45
msumu_sofieMaRk-I, when is hoary out for real then ?06:45
robosdreamwave, there is a line called default or something06:45
MaRk-Imsumu_sofie, uh??06:45
[nrx_] msumu_sofie, should be soon :)06:45
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MaRk-I[nrx_] , to make story short my eth0 couldnt connect thru the router I installed the wireless NIC and all of a sudden I could do both... still no ideas why06:46
dreamwaverobos: got it.  just changed it to 3.  do i need to run some command or am i good to go?06:46
[nrx_] MaRk-I, it's definately something to do with your configurations06:46
randabismsumu_sofie: april 8th06:47
[nrx_] MaRk-I, are both your wlan0 and eth0 up?06:47
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MaRk-Iright now eht0 is down06:47
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[nrx_] MaRk-I, and your routing table?06:47
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msumu_sofierandabis, what does this mean : realease candidate ?06:47
MaRk-I[nrx_] , sorry I don't understand what you mean06:48
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robosdreamwave, you need to run (as root) "grub-install /dev/hda" or so06:48
randabismsumu_sofie: it is a final test release before the final release06:48
[nrx_] MaRk-I, your routing table... "route -n" should tell you where your traffic's going. Also, it should tell you what interface it's using06:49
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dreamwaverobos: ah.  okay.  thanks for your help!06:49
libbenwhen u guys click and drag mouse on desktop, so that u get the orange shader box.... if i drag my mouse a bit faster the normal, it stutters.... i have nvidia and glx installed... does it stutters for you too ?06:49
MaRk-I[nrx_] , Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface06:49
MaRk-I192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 wlan006:49
ionshas the update manager icon been changed or is that just me?06:50
roboslibben, you can configure some things in nvidia-settings06:51
[nrx_] 0.0.0.0 gateway?06:51
libbeni installed that... why dont installed programs popup in the gnomes menu?06:51
libbenI need to type nvidia-setting to start it =)06:51
ionsrestart the gnome panel06:51
msumu_sofierandabis, well what do you think is gon get better in few days ?06:51
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ionskillall -1 gnome-panel06:51
MaRk-I[nrx_] , the second one is 192.168.1.1 I didnt post it06:52
roboslibben, OH MY GOD, YOU NEED TO TYPE ;-)06:52
MaRk-Isecond gateway I mean06:52
libben;P06:52
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bdalewhy would tuxracer sound not work when system noises, totem, et al seem to work fine?  ideas?06:52
[nrx_] so, what's your AP's ip?06:53
MaRk-I[nrx_] , http://pastebin.com/26573406:53
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bdale %% tuxracer warning: Warning: Couldn't set 22050 Hz 16-bit audio06:54
randabismsumu_sofie: last minute bug fixes, probably a few more package updates06:54
bdale    Reason: No available audio device06:54
robosMaRk-I, btw: there are some tools under kde for wifi config, e.g. Kwifimanager06:54
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PDKDE rules I guess06:55
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MaRk-Ierr ubuntu warty has KDE??06:55
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Dr_Willistesting out the transparency features of kde right now06:55
TaleelMaRk-I: in universe or multiverse06:55
PDMaRk-I: you can do an apt-get kde06:55
Dr_Willisthis is linux. :P anything is easially installed.  Lol06:55
msumu_sofierandabis, thx i 'll wait then06:56
[nrx_] MaRk-I, "route add default dev wlan0 gw 192.168.1.1"06:56
PDMaRk-I: or get kubuntu06:56
Dr_Williskubuntu-desktop06:56
Dr_Willisis what i 'apt-got' :P06:56
randabismsumu_sofie: you don't have to wait...you can get the updates through apt06:56
[nrx_] xfce is nicer :)06:56
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MaRk-ISIOCADDRT: File exists06:56
[nrx_] route del default06:57
[nrx_] then above line06:57
randabisxfce is nice. :) suits my laptop well...I keep kubuntu on here though06:57
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msumu_sofierandabis, last i tried to get updates it took me almost 2hours !06:57
[nrx_] randabis, running xfce4 here on this lappy, too :)06:57
pseudohttp://www.pseudocode.org/aprilfirst.jpg06:57
pseudonice06:57
PDkubuntu on my laptop too06:57
randabismsumu_sofie: slow connection?06:57
pregoIf I remove kubuntu-desktop, will it remove all KDE stuff?06:57
randabisprego: no06:58
libbenwhats d diffrence between kubuntu and ubuntu? read somewhere that it was like KDE or Gnome packed06:58
pregorandabis, so to remove it I have to do it manually?06:58
pseudoI would not have even notice if it weren't for the logout06:58
pseudoWho are those guys anyway?06:58
randabislibben: kubuntu = kde, ubuntu = gnome06:58
randabisprego: yes06:58
[nrx_] xubuntu = xfce406:58
[nrx_] :D06:58
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randabisprego: you could use something like debfoster to find all the dependencies and remove them to make it a bit faster06:59
MaRk-I[nrx_] , ok done... now??06:59
robosrandabis, or deborphan first06:59
pregorandabis, OK....07:00
randabisrobos: yeah07:00
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pregorobos, deboprhan finds packages not used by anyone else, I guess07:00
robosprego, yes, first thing to clean up the system a bit07:00
msumu_sofierandabis, no it was hoary dude; and there were a lotta people that day on that hour :)07:00
pregoOh my god, I got also the April 1st gdm virus ;-P07:00
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pregorobos, is that also accessible at synaptic or do I have to use CLI?07:01
randabislol07:01
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robosprego, mom07:01
Quinn_Stormapril 1st gdm virus? this an easter egg? I don't use gdm so...07:01
diemanhey07:01
no0ticQuinn_Storm: what are you saying of?07:02
diemanevery time i try to open up a folder in nautilus the old window goes away07:02
pregoQuinn_Storm, you are right, it is more an easter egg rather than a virus. Do not panic! ;-P07:02
robosQuinn_Storm, there is an image like the normal ubuntu "three people holding hands" image, but this time some developers07:02
diemanhow do i keep it from doing that? :)07:02
Quinn_Stormah, cool, hehe, I use kdm tho07:02
pregodieman, they have switched close behaviour: use middle mouse not to close parent, now07:02
kbrooksWhy is apt DELETING packages07:03
no0ticQuinn_Storm: could you describe it?07:03
nydusti did just install webmin with apt-get and when i try to load it in the browser i get access denied07:03
kbrooks570 upgraded, 55 newly installed, 60 to remove and 41 not upgraded.07:03
robosprego, deborphan is not in ubuntu as it seems...07:03
Dr_Willisno0tic,  you did start the service?07:03
diemanprego: wtf!07:03
kbrookswhy is apt removing 60 packages!07:03
diemanprego: wacky07:03
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randabisrobos: I think it is in universe07:03
pregoas someone posted above: http://www.pseudocode.org/aprilfirst.jpg07:03
no0ticDr_Willis: gdm? yes!07:03
kbrooksThe following packages will be REMOVED:07:04
kbrooks  capplets evolution-data-server evolution-webcal file-roller gcalctool07:04
kbrooks  gconf-editor gdm gedit gedit-common gnome-about gnome-applets07:04
kbrooks  gnome-applets-data gnome-control-center gnome-cpufreq-applet07:04
kbrooks  gnome-cups-manager gnome-games gnome-gv gnome-media gnome-netstatus-applet07:04
kbrooks  gnome-nettool gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-pilot gnome-pilot-conduits07:04
kbrooks  gnome-session gnome-spell gnome-system-monitor gnome-system-tools07:04
kbrooks  gnome-utils gnome-volume-manager gnomemeeting gthumb gtkhtml3.2 gucharmap07:04
kbrooks  hal-device-manager libbonoboui2-0 libeel2-2 libgal2.2-1 libgal2.2-common07:04
kbrooks  libgnome-desktop-2 libgnome2-0 libgnomecupsui1.0-1 libgnomeui-007:04
Dr_Willisi ment nydust  :P07:04
kbrooks  libgtkhtml3.2-11 libgucharmap4 libnautilus2-2 libpanel-applet2-007:04
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kbrooks  nautilus-cd-burner python-fixedpoint python-gnome2 python-mpz python-newt07:04
kbrooks  python2.3-gnome2 rhythmbox sound-juicer totem-gstreamer trashapplet tsclient07:04
kbrooks  vino yelp07:04
kbrooks^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^07:04
thoreauputic_kbrooks: STOP IT!!07:04
kbrooksthose.07:04
diemanprego: i wouldn't mind it if the new window was right were the closed one was07:04
kbrooksyes sir07:04
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Dr_Willisnydust,  you need to start the service.. and then connect to https://localhost07:04
pregodieman, windows are at the place you left them last time.07:04
nydustDr_Willis, webmin has started07:04
kbrookswhy is apt removing IMPORTANT packages?07:04
thoreauputic_kbrooks: in a less friendly channel that would have got you kicked07:05
randabishaha07:05
roboskbrooks, in the list of new installed packages, are there similar packages07:05
randabislooks like it is removing gnome07:05
Xeon3Dxmms is going crazy07:05
pregokbrooks, reload package info07:05
Xeon3Dit wont play any mp3 files :(07:05
nmsa_kain: are you around?07:05
kbrooksrobos, as in?07:05
randabishaha apt removing gnome...that's awesome07:05
roboskbrooks, as in the same names as those that get removed07:05
kainnmsa_, tell me07:05
roboskbrooks, only with a small change in the name07:05
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nmsa_in regards to mu ieee1394 and kino07:06
kainyes, I remember07:06
nmsa_my ieee1394 is ok now, bu I can't get my kino to capture07:06
kainnmsa_, this time I can't help you, I never used kino, sorry07:06
nydustDr_Willis, webmin is running.. I am on my client pc now. at the samme nettwork. I see i have one problem cause when i type the hostname to the server firefox try to google search on the hostname07:06
kbrookshttp://rafb.net/paste/results/9dV2sv57.html07:07
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kbrooksrobos, apt-get -f upgrade07:07
nmsa_kain: thank you! you helped a lot with the ieee, which works ;)07:07
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no0ticX cursor disappeared suddenly, left a black hole cursor shaped07:08
Dr_Willisnydust,  use the local pc. first.. then you need to configure webmin to allow the OTHER pc's to get in.07:08
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Dr_Willisnydust,  webminis locked down VERY tightly by default if i rember right.07:08
PacoBCNthe gdm joke is funny but almost gave me a heart attack...07:08
PacoBCNdammit07:08
kbrooksPacoBCN, gdm joke?07:08
PacoBCNapril's fool07:08
no0ticI installed a new cursor theme and it showed up, but then it disappeared07:08
kbrooksPacoBCN, paste the joke on a pastebin07:08
PacoBCNkbrooks, nothing to paste, I updated everything and restarted the computer07:09
roboskbrooks, did you run this?07:09
desrtshame07:09
desrti just updated too07:09
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desrti'd have liked to have seen that :P07:09
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PacoBCNwell, restartx...07:09
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kbrooksrobos: and i tried to install python-dev, but07:09
kbrooksit was removing IMPORTANT packages07:10
kentIs the seti-applet any good? I found a deb-packat for Warty (im using Hoary) and it crashed when i add it to the panel.  I cant find any .deb files for it, so Im thinking of compiling it from source, but Im not sure if its worth it. I want an applet for seti that runs seti so I get a nice UI interface for it, and dont have to run it from a terminal.07:10
nydusthow can i see deamins that are running?07:10
GhostFreemanWill the clock automatically update for DST?07:10
roboskbrooks, did you mess with the sources list?07:10
randabiswell, the pope's gonna die07:10
nydustdaemons07:10
lokGhostFreeman, DST ?07:10
kbrooksrobos, dont remember07:10
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GhostFreemanDaylight Savings Time07:10
no0ticsomeone can answer me?07:11
lokfor me it worked fine07:11
PacoBCNam I the only one to have seen the Happy April First theme?07:11
no0ticof I have to file a bug?07:11
thoreauputic_GhostFreeman: it did here07:11
GhostFreemanDid you haveta enable NTP support?07:11
EvilIdlerI've been struggling to get a stable nvidia driver here. Compiling from source now makes the system not find the modules directory, and stock 2.6.10 kernels are very unstable with xcompmgr.07:11
Xeon3Dis anyone else having problems with xmms on hoary?07:11
kbrooksrobos: hello?07:11
roboskbrooks, mom07:12
thoreauputic_GhostFreeman: it doesn't use ntpdate to do it as far as I know07:12
kbrooksrobos: be helpful07:12
GhostFreemanok07:12
randabisEvilIdler: why not just use the nvidia-glx package?07:12
EvilIdlerrandabis: That's also unstable.07:12
randabisI've never had any problems with it07:13
roboskbrooks, try running synaptic and see under settings-> packetlist or so07:13
EvilIdlerrandabis: Run xcompmgr, X crashes on window resize or if I try transparency07:13
randabisEvilIdler: not for me (with xcompmgr running)07:13
EvilIdlerrandabis: You don't have luck-debt ;)07:13
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GhostFreemanAnyone having problems logging in to MSN with gaim07:13
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EvilIdlerGoing to see if at least 3D stuff works.07:14
no0ticGhostFreeman: net is down, it semms07:14
no0ticGhostFreeman: it *seems07:14
roboskbrooks, mom means "wait a moment"07:14
GhostFreemanits been down a lot the past few weeks07:14
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thoreauputic_GhostFreeman: yeah it times out here07:15
MaRk-I[nrx] , thanks I think that did it07:15
MaRk-Ioh wait... lag07:15
raphinou_is it possible to install ubuntu on a partition from a running system?07:15
adobbieraphinou: you mean like debootstrap?07:15
[nrx] everything's possiblew with ubnutu07:15
[nrx] ubuntu's good, too07:16
[nrx] heh07:16
raphinou_adobbie: yep07:16
kbrooksrunning07:16
thoreauputic_[nrx] : yeah, but ubnutu's better ;-)07:16
roboskbrooks, are there any more sources beside the ubuntu ones?07:16
adobbieraphinou: use debootstrap07:16
raphinou_I'm on debian and tried (not that hard) to use debootstrap with a ubuntu repository, without success07:17
kbrooksrobos, unpacking07:17
kbrooksatm07:17
EvilIdlerNo glx support. Yay stock kernels.07:17
adobbieraphinou: try again, I've got sarge 3 times and ubuntu once all one machine07:17
kbrooksrobos: ill tell you after07:18
roboskbrooks, k07:18
EvilIdlerI have nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev installed, nvidia module is loaded. Still no GLX. Any ideas?07:18
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scottanyone know how to get gdesklets to show up on ubuntu?07:18
libbenwhy nvidia-dev07:18
libben?07:18
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adobbieEvilIdler: Load    "glx" in your xorg.conf?07:19
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EvilIdleradobbie: It's loaded, or at least I have the entry07:19
adobbieglxgears doesn't run?07:19
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EvilIdleradobbie: I'm trying various other gl programs. Don't have glxgears, but I don't think it should matter07:20
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raphinou_adobbie: the problem is that in /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/ I don't have a script for ubuntu, and it complains....07:20
raphinou_Here's what I tried:07:20
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raphinou_debootstrap hoary ubuntu/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/07:21
adobbieEvilIdler: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log07:21
MaRk-I[nrx] , I think that was it thanks07:21
saradiyacan anyone get this --> 3CRSHPW196 wireless card from 3com working ?07:21
EvilIdleradobbie: The log says module glx is loaded07:22
[nrx] MaRk-I no problem07:22
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kbrooksrobos, no. none.07:22
MaRk-I[nrx] , cant have both runing huh?07:22
robossaradiya, didn't the last thing work I told you?07:22
adobbieEvilIdler: Driver          "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?07:23
roboskbrooks, hmm, then it's strange07:23
EvilIdleradobbie: Yep. It's what I'm using.07:23
saradiyarobos, no that was detecting my built in lan card not the wifi07:23
Xeon3Derm... I'm having problems regarding playing mp3 files.07:23
[nrx] MaRk-I not if you want traffic routed properly07:23
saradiyarobos, it can't detect the wifi07:23
[nrx] MaRk-I make sure you do "ifconfig eth0 down" and "ifconfig wlan0 up" :)07:23
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Xeon3DIf I try playing an mp3 file with xmms or bmp .. it stalls and freezes the application07:24
robossaradiya, I thought you wanted the normal nic to run, you didn't say something about wifi07:24
Xeon3Dand I have to kill it.. :P07:24
adobbieEvilIdler: I don't know what you've missed then.  I've got it working fine here07:24
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Xeon3Dbut sound plays normally when I use Totem to view a video.07:24
EvilIdleradobbie: I had it working fine until I upgraded to X.org07:24
saradiyarobos, sorry ... wasn't clear i guess07:24
Xeon3Dwhat could it be?07:24
MaRk-I[nrx] , doing ifconfig eth0 down wont start it at boot right??07:24
kbrooks0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 528 not upgraded.07:24
roboskbrooks, how about you search in synaptic for gnome and install those packages again?07:24
saradiyarobos, any ideas ?07:24
kbrooksHow do I fix the 528 not upgraded07:24
[nrx] MaRk-I you can add scripts etc to set that up.. but generally, eth0 will always start at boot unless you specify otherwise07:25
[nrx] and i gotta go for a shower.. going out tonight :)07:25
MaRk-I[nrx] , thanks again07:25
[nrx] np07:25
MaRk-Iand enjoy07:25
adobbiekbrooks: probably aptitude dist-upgrade07:25
raphinou_adobbie: could you give me what you typed to get debootstrap to work?07:25
robossaradiya, search in google.com/linux for the name of your wifi-nic07:25
raphinou_Or did you boot the ubuntu live CD and issue the command from there?07:26
adobbieraphinou: I can't remember, I just read a few lines in the manpage and typed it07:26
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adobbieraphinou: I used hoary07:26
thoreauputic_Xeon3D: do you have mpg321 or mpg123 installed? Have you configured the xmms plugins?07:27
thoreauputic_Xeon3D: or are you relying on gstreamer?07:27
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raphinou_adobbie: ok, I should try to boot on the live CD and do it from there then..07:28
Orboahoy07:28
Xeon3DThom_Holwerda, don't think I have mpg123 or 321 installed.07:28
kbrooksok07:28
OrboI've having some display problems when ubuntu starts gdm07:28
kbrooksadobbie, thx07:28
Xeon3Dthoreauputic_,  and I didn't configure xmms plugins.07:28
Xeon3Dthoreauputic_,    don't think I have mpg123 or 321 installed.07:28
thoreauputic_Xeon3D: try installing mpg123 and try again - check th eplugin config in xmms after installing07:29
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Orboit sets the resolution out of my monitors range, but when I log in, everything is fine, I changed it to 1024x768, I haven't installed fgrlx07:29
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thoreauputic_Xeon3D: my xmms is running with mpg12307:29
Xeon3Dthoreauputic_, i just installed mpg123 and when I try and play an audio file it sayys it can't find a suitable libao driver (is device in use?)07:29
robosgonna go, cua07:29
Xeon3Dbut sound plays normally when I click the menus and such on gnome.07:29
Xeon3DARGHHHH has anyone seen the new login screen (after updating?)07:30
thoreauputic_Xeon3D: options >> preferences  in xmms07:30
thoreauputic_mpeg layer plugin07:31
Xeon3Dtt..ttthh... thhhree... malee.. ggguuyss...07:31
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thoreauputic_Xeon3D: enable that plugin07:31
Xeon3Dits enabled07:32
thoreauputic_there's a check box07:32
thoreauputic_and it still won't play?07:32
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Xeon3Dnope07:32
thoreauputic_hmm07:32
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Xeon3Dnow it asks me to check if my sound card is configured correctly07:32
St0n3-C0lKonversation is good :P07:32
thoreauputic_Xeon3D: you can play mp3 in rhythmbox, right?07:32
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thoreauputic_Xeon3D: are you using hoary? are you using esd for sound?07:33
Xeon3DI haven't got rhythmbox07:33
Xeon3Dthoreauputic_, how do I check ? :P07:33
thoreauputic_music player07:33
thoreauputic_ ps aux | grep esd  and see if esd is running for a start07:34
randabisSt0n3-C0l: indeed :)07:35
Xeon3Dyup07:35
Xeon3Dwith the nobeeps option07:35
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Xeon3DI can play them with rythmbox..07:35
libbenI clicked NO on do u wan to ignore these packages that werent downloaded......  do i have to download all 316 packages again?07:36
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thoreauputic_Xeon3D: so gstreamer is working07:36
Xeon3Dbut why can't I use it with xmms07:36
thoreauputic_Xeon3D: I don't know, frankly - xmms here uses mpg123, not gstreamer07:37
subterrifichahaha, the login screen ;)07:38
thoreauputic_Xeon3D: check the output plugin in xmms and see if it's using esd or oss or whatever07:38
Xeon3Drhytmbox is still loading songs07:39
thoreauputic_Xeon3D: I think in hoary it needs to be using esd07:39
Xeon3D:( I shouldn't have selected my main mp3 folder.. :P07:39
thoreauputic_you should be able to run xmms while it loads :)07:39
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randabishttp://www.google.com/googlegulp/07:40
Br34chThink fruity!07:41
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Xeon3Dnope still doesn't work07:41
Xeon3D:(07:41
Xeon3Deven with esd07:41
Xeon3Dit still gives me the check the soundcard is ok.. and such07:41
Xeon3D(I use NForce)07:41
Xeon3Ds/Nforce/SoundStorm07:42
thoreauputic_Xeon3D: what was it set to? did you change it to esd and restart it?07:42
skreetApril Fools eh ? :D07:42
Br34chGmail storage is going up to 2 GB today07:42
Xeon3DI did... and it still didn't work07:42
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thoreauputic_Xeon3D: I'm running out of ideas, sorry :(07:43
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thoreauputic_maybe try another output plugin07:43
Tuxicityhey, anyone else saw the Google April's Fool Joke today? :D07:43
Xeon3DF*CK07:43
Xeon3DI fixed it.07:43
thoreauputic_Xeon3D: like straight alsa07:43
falkarwww.google.com/slurp/07:44
falkari love gooooogle!07:44
thoreauputic_Xeon3D: what was it?07:44
Xeon3DI was running it thru a button on the panel07:44
Xeon3Dand it was executing gksudo xmms07:44
Xeon3DI just removed the gksudo..07:44
Xeon3Dand voila07:44
Xeon3D:P07:44
thoreauputic_Xeon3D: haha :D07:44
Xeon3Dthanks for your help thoreauputic_ !07:44
thoreauputic_Xeon3D: no worries :)07:44
Tuxicityfalkar, no this http://www.google.ca/googlegulp/07:45
Xeon3Doh and did someone try and add a folder with like 10000 mp3 files into rhythmbox? mine just crashed after a while.07:45
randabisthis ones better: ""Opera Software's R-and-D department today announced the discovery of a new technology dubbed 'Opera SoundWave' - a platform-independent speech solution for short- and medium-range interpersonal communication. Based on open standards, Opera's patent-pending P2P speech technology uses analogue signals carried through open air, enabling users to communicate in real- time without the use of computers or mobile phones.07:45
thoreauputic_Xeon3D: rhythmbox has some ... issues07:46
falkar:|07:46
falkarXDDDD07:46
falkartuxicity?07:46
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falkardo you know system of a down? :|07:46
Xeon3DI do.07:46
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Tuxicityfalkar, ya07:46
Xeon3DToxiccity or somth07:46
falkargreat :)07:46
falkari like them!07:46
Tuxicityfalkar, me too :)07:47
falkarwhat's your favourite song?07:47
Tuxicityfalkar, guess07:47
no0ticbrb07:47
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falkarroulette :Q_____07:47
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Xeon3DI like that one "Wake up, and grab a little brush ... your makeup".. etc...07:48
falkar.. :|07:48
randabisXeon3D: chop suey07:48
falkarit's "chop suey"07:48
randabisI like "Science"07:49
randabisthat song rocks07:49
Xeon3Dheh thanks :D07:50
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Xeon3DI'm much more of a Metallica fan though.07:50
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oXeNheh listening to SOAD right now07:50
oXeNWar07:50
no0ticbrb07:51
randabisold metallica is good07:51
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Xeon3Dnew metallica is also good.. just a little different...07:51
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SirFunkhey.. i'm having a problem.. i install warty ..it installs fine but on the first reboot it kernelpanics07:52
Tuxicityfalkar,07:53
Tuxicitymy favourite is "Toxicity" to asnwer ur q.07:53
Bazzithe toxicity of our city, oooour ciiiityyyy07:54
Xeon3DSirFunk,  check your memory with memtest...07:55
BockBilbohello07:55
SirFunkBazzi.. i did it's fine07:55
Xeon3DThe only time I saw a kernel panic... so early was when I had a bad dimm07:55
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BockBilbocan dist-upgrading remove a directory inside the user's home directory?07:55
BockBilbo:S07:55
Xeon3Ddon't think so...07:55
BockBilbome either07:55
BockBilbobut looks like lots of my home data have dissapeared07:56
BockBilbo:S07:56
BockBilbojust like if i have reinstalled ubuntu07:56
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no0ticanyone could lend me a hand with a firewall rule?08:00
Tuxicityno0tic, maybem what?08:01
SirFunkmy ubuntu kernel panics right after detecting network interfaces08:01
Echyloyou scared him ?08:02
Echylowhat kind of network interface you have?08:02
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Mr-Petahhi all!08:03
SirFunkEchylo: it's builtin08:03
Mr-Petahi'm back!08:03
Echyloan ethernet SirFunk ?08:03
Echylowb Mr-Petah08:03
Mr-Petah:)08:03
Mr-Petahi install ubuntu in my p3!!!! (real machinne, no virtual! xD)08:04
SirFunkEchylo: yes08:04
Echylohmm kind? sure it's not broken?08:04
Echylocongrats Mr-Petah  :)08:04
Mr-Petahtnx!08:04
Mr-Petahis faster!08:04
Mr-Petahnow download upgrades08:04
Echylolel08:04
EchyloI just did that too08:04
Echylo202 updates08:04
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Mr-Petahlike sudo apt-get xD08:04
SirFunkEchylo: yes, sure, i ran fedora on this system for like a year, no problem08:04
Echylohmm08:05
Mr-Petahi just 142 upd08:05
Echylo:)08:05
Mr-PetahxD08:05
Mr-Petah160 Mb08:05
Mr-Petah:P08:05
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Mr-Petahsorry 4 my english, remember, i'm argentinian in canary islands (spain)08:05
SirFunkEchylo: the network stuff is just the last thing i see before it kernel panics, it could be something esle08:06
Mr-Petah:P08:06
detNice april 1st joke :-)08:06
tolstoylove that new gdm hoary background!  thanks for the laugh. ;)08:06
Echylowhich one det?08:06
detooh, there are more08:06
GhostFreemanwhats the command to find out what host address my computer has been assigned08:06
Echyloslashdot?08:06
TuxicityGhostFreeman, ifconfig08:06
Mr-Petahwhere see freenode mirrors to conect from UE?08:06
Echyloslashdot is full of jokes today08:06
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detEchylo, I meant, gdm background :)08:07
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Mr-Petahi'm back in a few minutes, need install a script 4 xchat, and restart08:08
Shido6anyone get a TV@nywhere card working in ubuntu?08:08
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Mr-Petahi have avermediatv and ubuntu get auto :P08:08
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paoloHi guys! What should I do in order to export a directory from a ubuntu pc to another one? I installed packet nfs-kernel-server, and "modprobe nfs", changed /etc/exports, but when I try to mount from the client it says something like "RPC... connection refused". What does it lack?08:09
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talkingjivehellp08:10
talkingjivei need help08:10
talkingjivesomebody can help me please?08:10
tckask08:10
talkingjivei wanna install ubuntu08:10
tckdont ask to ask - just ask08:10
talkingjivebut my pc doesn't have cd boot08:10
tckis it enabled in the BIOS08:10
talkingjivenop08:11
tckor no cd-rom08:11
talkingjivemy pc it's an oldy08:11
talkingjivedoesn't have that option08:11
tckvery oldy ;)08:11
talkingjiveyep08:11
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tckhas it got a network card08:11
talkingjive9 years old08:11
thoreauputic_talkingjive: how much RAM, hard drive space, what cpu?08:11
talkingjivenop08:11
talkingjive32 ram08:11
talkingjive166mhz08:12
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thoreauputic_talkingjive: not enough08:12
digitalsurgeoni've mounted windows partition on /mnt/win_c as root but i want to allow normal users to access that partition08:12
talkingjive4gb hard disk08:12
digitalsurgeonhow08:12
talkingjivewhy?08:12
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thoreauputic_talkingjive: another distro would be better for a box that old08:12
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thoreauputic_unless you want to go to a lot of unnecessary trouble08:12
talkingjivewhat distro?08:12
digitalsurgeonneed a quick help guys08:13
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darren_Does anyone know why XMMS crashes everytime I try and play an mp3 (Ubuntu Hoary)08:13
thoreauputic_talkingjive: debian, slackware, maybe damnsmall lim=nux08:13
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thoreauputic_*linux08:13
talkingjivewhy not ubuntu??08:13
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digitalsurgeoni've mounted windows partition on /mnt/win_c as root but i want to allow normal users to access that partition08:13
foltahey all - i just upgraded a few things and now i get the error '/bin/sh: tar: command not found' when i attempt to open a tar archive with file roller - what's wrong?08:13
digitalsurgeonchmod 777 /mnt/win_c wont help08:14
thoreauputic_talkingjive: because a modern gnome desktop needs more resources08:14
foltai still have tar installed btw08:14
digitalsurgeonis tar in ur path ?08:14
talkingjiveok i dont mind08:14
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digitalsurgeoncheck ur path etc08:14
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thoreauputic_talkingjive: that machine would need to run icewm or fluxbox or similar08:14
talkingjivei can install ubunti without cd boot?08:14
corvixi got a problem with the philips webcam pcvc740 ...08:15
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thoreauputic_talkingjive: you don't have enough RAM08:15
talkingjiveok i'll run icewm on ubuntu08:15
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corvixwhen booting hotplug or usb load the modules and this seems to block the oss emulation of alsa ...08:15
thoreauputic_talkingjive: *sigh* OK well use the "expert" install option08:15
talkingjiveyes i have08:15
talkingjivein the ubuntu cd box08:15
talkingjivetells that 32mb it's enough08:15
corvixalsa still wortks fine, but all progs using /dev/dsp dont work08:15
digitalsurgeoni've mounted windows partition on /mnt/win_c as root but i want to allow normal users to access that partition08:16
digitalsurgeonhelp08:16
thoreauputic_talkingjive: it will run like a slug08:16
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effigywhen i play avis the sound and video are out of sync, anyone know how to fix this?08:16
talkingjiveyeah but i dont know how i can boot the install08:16
no0ticdoes firestarter has a reject policy?08:16
darren_Does anyone know why XMMS crashes everytime I try and play an mp3 (Ubuntu Hoary)08:16
thoreauputic_talkingjive: do yourself a favour and install debian08:16
talkingjivei don't have debian08:17
effigyin totem08:17
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corvix@surgeon ... check man mount for dmask and fmask ...08:17
digitalsurgeonthanks corvix08:17
digitalsurgeonlet me man08:17
digitalsurgeonNo manual entry for fmask08:18
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tahorganyone's got mono packages for hoary (>= 1.0.6) ?08:18
corvixno .. i meant look at the "man mount" for dmask and fmask .. should be in the vfat section08:18
inetprodigitalsurgeon: If you want to automount while booting add "rw,uid=YourNormalUserID,gid=YourNormalGroupID" to the options in /etc/fstab08:18
corvixits a mountoption for vfat or i think ntfs as well08:19
inetpro digitalsurgeon: read man fstab08:19
digitalsurgeonfat3208:19
digitalsurgeonok08:19
corvixsupported by vfat08:19
corvixanyone an idea about that sound/webcam prob?08:19
paoloHi all! is ubuntu kernel supporting nfs?08:20
corvixjupp .. afaik ...08:20
inetproMy entry in /etc/fstab is as follows: "/dev/hda1       /win98          vfat    rw,uid=1000,gid=1000 0       0"08:20
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corvixat least im runnig it08:20
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grogoreohi08:21
digitalsurgeoninetpro: so will it allow all normal users to access the /win98 directory ?08:21
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corvixno ...08:21
markumanhow does jabber work? i think you can chat with jabber to icq to? but if i want to add a contact, i can only add jabber IDs08:21
markumani'm using PSI08:21
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corvixfiles will appear unter uig/gid 100008:21
digitalsurgeononly a specific user ?08:21
josuehey guys, i want to upgrade my system to the latest hoary (im a hoary from a few months ago), but i can't downoad the files here. Is there a way to download the packages manually in another computer and burn them in a cd? or can i upgrade my system from a hoary iso?08:21
inetprodigitalsurgeon: no only user with ID: 100008:21
corvixuse dmask and fmask to modify file rights08:21
digitalsurgeonhmm08:21
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digitalsurgeonthat's good enuf for now i think08:21
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digitalsurgeonbut why wont this work ?08:22
digitalsurgeonrhl had no such problem :s08:22
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dtudosiehi08:22
corvix/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     vfat    defaults,sync,noauto,user,dmask=0003,fmask=0113,uid=1000,gid=1002          0       008:22
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inetproYou could always add the "user" option instead and allow the user to mount it him/herself. See man fstab08:23
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corvixor that way08:23
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phoenixp3khello, new to linux and got a few questions08:24
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inetprodoes rhl mount the doze directory automatically?08:24
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Tuxicityphoenixp3k, shoot!08:24
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digitalsurgeoninetpro & corvix: thanks guys08:25
phoenixp3kwell it's about FireStarter08:25
digitalsurgeonthat solved it08:25
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phoenixp3kIs it loaded at start-up ?08:26
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foltahey again08:26
Tuxicityphoenixp3k, you follpowed instructions on ubuntuguide.org?08:26
phoenixp3kyup08:26
thoreauputic_phoenixp3k: normally yes08:26
darren_How do I run an rpm from terminal?08:26
foltai've checked- i have /bin in my path, and tar is at /bin/tar... so why isn't it being found by file roller?08:26
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phoenixp3kok. 2nd questions, GRUB takes 3-4 minutes to bood08:27
phoenixp3kto boot08:27
thoreauputic_darren_: you don't - this is a debian-based distro08:27
Tuxicityphoenixp3k, umm, thats long08:27
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digitalsurgeonok08:28
Albackerphoenixp3k /boot/grub/menu.lst08:28
digitalsurgeoni have some simple .net winforms based apps in .NET08:28
thoreauputic_darren_: what are you trying to do?08:28
PetroHow do I mount a filesystem without user, group permissions? (Here an iPod with HFS+)08:28
Albackerphoenixp3k, there should be something that sets the time.08:28
digitalsurgeoni have mono installed on my ubuntu linux08:28
darren_thoreauputic_, but Ubuntu can run rpms08:28
digitalsurgeoni want to run them08:28
darren_thoreauputic_,  I'm trying to install gimpshop08:28
thoreauputic_darren_: what are you trying to do?08:28
digitalsurgeonwhen i invoke the .exe i get this error08:28
digitalsurgeonahout wine.exe08:28
phoenixp3kwell, it's not the time letting me choose the operating system08:28
phoenixp3kit's the stage 1.5 thing08:29
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hohlraumanyone know why the nvidia driver debs require the single processor kernel (and its support files) to be installed?08:29
thoreauputic_darren_: you can try using alien: sudo apt-get install alien08:29
Albackerphoenixp3k, ahh08:29
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Thom_Holwerdahuh anyone mentioned me08:30
thoreauputic_darren_: then sudo alien <name of rpm>08:30
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darren_thoreauputic_, what's alien?08:30
digitalsurgeonyeah08:30
digitalsurgeonwhat is it ?08:30
thoreauputic_darren_: converts rpm to deb08:30
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Thom_Holwerdadarren_, it makes a .deb out of .rpm08:30
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thoreauputic_darren_: if you're lucky08:30
Thom_Holwerdanever failed on me :)08:30
darren_installed alien08:31
phoenixp3kSo I was hoping there would be a way to fix this...08:31
hohlraumalien == gianormous hack :)08:31
thoreauputic_Thom_Holwerda: you're lucky then :)08:31
darren_what's the command to convert rpm to deb?08:31
nydusti have installed webmin and it bye default use root as login, but ubuntu has root account disabled by default how do i correct this?08:31
foltaoh, this is a beautiful thing, mplayer and xmms are freezing now too08:31
thoreauputic_darren_: I told you08:31
thoreauputic_darren_: sudo alien <name of rpm>08:31
digitalsurgeonnydust: sudo08:31
digitalsurgeonthen set passwd for root08:31
Tuxicityphoenixp3k, there must be, on my PC it's so fast08:32
digitalsurgeonsu08:32
Tuxicityphoenixp3k, how much Mhz?08:32
hohlraumonce you get into webadmin.. give a different user admin privs and then disable roots passwd again and delete the root user from webmin.08:32
phoenixp3k2.4 Ghz08:32
nydustsi cant login08:33
phoenixp3kUbuntu is installed on a slave 3.2 GB 3600 rmp drive. But grub should be on the master08:33
effigyhow do i go about setting my joystick up?08:33
effigyits a saitek p750 usb joystick, 3axis 12button08:34
darren_thoreauputic_, that command just created a dir08:34
Goshawkis there a way to see all the variables of my shell?08:35
hohlraumeffigy: what app are you trying to use with it?08:35
thoreauputic_darren_: umm.. no it didn't - did you look in there to see if you have a deb?08:35
darren_yes08:35
Albackerdarren_ : why do you want to convert a rpm to deb ?08:35
darren_It just created a folder called gimp-2.2.408:35
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thoreauputic_and what's in the dir then?08:36
darren_Albacker, I want to install gimpshop but it's a rpm08:36
darren_another dir08:36
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Albackerdarren_ : cant you find it in deb ?08:36
thoreauputic_darren_: then there's probbly a script in it to start the gimp08:37
thoreauputic_but there should be a deb08:37
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thoreauputic_darren_: did it throw any errors?08:37
AlbackerI have gimp installed from apt-get !!08:37
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thoreauputic_Albacker: no this is a new thing08:38
darren_Albacker, it's a hack for gimp to make it like photoshop08:38
phoenixp3kwhen I checked on the forums, people talk about 90 sec. booting time, so that is the only bug I' experiencing08:38
kbrooksJust upgraded to Hoary, but GDM won't start. The X server output, at the end, says 'no screens found'08:38
Albackerdarren_ : cool than, I'll need it :D08:38
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kbrooksWhy?08:38
Albackerdarren_ : since I couldnt make photoshop work in linux. I'd like to get it.08:38
thoreauputic_kbrooks: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:39
mdzabelli: yes, it is possible to install drivers on the live CD08:40
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abellimdz: thx :)08:40
darren_Albacker, if I get it working I'll send you the file and give you the instrcutions08:40
DalkusI need to know, to enable direct rendering must i downloda the nvidia driver from nvidia.com? or will the apt-get nvidia-* packages suffice?08:40
Albackerme too : darren_08:40
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Quinn_StormDalkus: you need to install linux-restricted-modules08:41
DalkusI have08:41
kbrooksok08:41
kbrooksnow to restart08:41
Quinn_StormDalkus: okay, I don't know beyond that, someone else know?08:41
darren_thoreauputic_, Does alien take ages because it's hanging for me08:41
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rdw200169Albacker: $sudo alien -d gimshop.rpm08:42
Dalkusrpm is installed in ubuntu08:42
thoreauputic_darren_: well, it doesn't usually, but it's kind of experimantal - see man alien08:42
Albackerrdw200169, what's alien08:42
TuxicityGoshawk, set | less08:42
Mestaphelesanyone having problems changing desktop wall paper with xfce4 on hoary?  No subcontextuals appear with right click on desktop.08:43
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thoreauputic_Dalkus: using rpm in debian based distros is A Bad Thing (tm)08:43
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Albackeralien is the software that converts rpm2deb08:43
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Dalkusokok08:43
kbrooksok08:43
kbrooksthx08:43
kbrooksback in gnome08:43
mjg59__moray: Afraid so (no idea when you said that)08:43
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Tjdwhey guys. I have a problem upgrading to hoary08:43
mjg59Argh. Cocking irssi.08:43
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phobosangerhello08:44
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p88hi all08:44
DalkusI'm having problems with my nvidia drivers, i get these errors alot:08:44
DalkusXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".08:44
Dalkusglxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.08:44
p88are there people here who have used Fuse(Filesystem in USErspace) and know where and how to compile the module?08:44
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Dalkusbut my xorg.conf is setup fine, and all the nvidia packages are installed from the repository08:44
Dalkuswhat can i do...?08:44
Echylodamn, looks like the pope is dead :s08:44
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Tjdwwhen i run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it tells me I have a failed dependancy08:45
effigythe popes been dead for years08:45
Tjdwlibgtksourceview-common08:45
Tjdwis the wrong version08:45
p88Echylo: indeed it starts looking like that08:45
Tjdwso it won't let me continue08:45
Tjdwand I'm stuck in a terminal08:45
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Tjdwno X08:45
Dalkusremove that package then08:45
phoenixp3khe did is job well08:45
Tjdwbut it won't let me remove it08:45
p88anyone with FUSE or GmailFS?08:45
larsrohdinwhich is the best graphical file-manager?08:45
phoenixp3klet the men die in peace08:45
DalkusTjdw, have you tried apt-get remove?08:45
p88larsrohdin: I like konqueror08:46
thoreauputic_larsrohdin: what is your favourite colour?08:46
TjdwDalkus: yes08:46
p88larsrohdin: it doesn't really matter though08:46
larsrohdinp88, im using fluxbox08:46
LoufierQuestion.. if u install KDE on ubuntu does it make it kubuntu or ubuntu with kde?08:46
TjdwDalkus: it tells me i have packages that rely on it08:46
thoreauputic_larsrohdin: rox-filer08:46
Loufiercuz i got ubuntu b4 i knew ther was one for kde <:)08:47
TjdwDalkus: gedit depends on that08:47
Tjdwand ubuntu-desktop depends on gedit08:47
Tjdwetc.08:47
larsrohdinthoreauputic_, yeah, i liked that, but it didn't work after a while...08:47
TuxicityLoufier, it's practically the same08:47
thoreauputic_larsrohdin: ? Odd - works well here...08:47
Loufieryea but im just wondering if it changes the name at the start :PP08:47
TuxicityLoufier, according to Kubuntu FAQ08:47
DalkusTjdw, so delete them too? you can always reinstall08:48
larsrohdinthoreauputic_, Failed to create symlink '/home/larsrohdin/.icons/ROX':08:48
larsrohdinFile exists08:48
Dalkususe synaptic08:48
p88synaptic is nice08:48
kbrooksquestion08:48
adobbiedselect is where it's at :)08:48
LoufierFinally i burnt my ubuntu disc :P ^_^08:48
thoreauputic_larsrohdin: that isn't a rox problem - it's a bad ln command08:48
Tjdwwell i can't remove gedit08:48
Tjdwbecause it depends on gedit-common, which depends on gedit08:49
Loufierafter seven times of windows doing blue screens of bad_pool_error -_-'08:49
MestaphelesTjdw: sudo apt-get -f install08:49
larsrohdinthoreauputic_, got that error after running apt-get upgrade... it worked perfect before08:49
Tjdwi don't know how that works, but it never dies08:49
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thoreauputic_larsrohdin: so just delete the symlink and fix it08:49
larsrohdinthoreauputic_, whats that then?08:49
TjdwMestapheles: it won't let me run that. it has dependancy issues08:49
Tjdwit's a giant loop of dependancies08:50
Tjdwit won't let me remove gedit08:50
thoreauputic_larsrohdin: Failed to create symlink '/home/larsrohdin/.icons/ROX  << you can fix that link or delete it08:50
TuxicityLoufier, good now put it in and blow Win away!08:50
larsrohdinok, now it works=)08:50
larsrohdinthanks alot!08:51
kbrooksi want to change the look of ubuntu08:51
thoreauputic_larsrohdin: no worries08:51
thoreauputic_:)08:51
Loufierafter i burn all my shit off this comp :(08:51
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LoufierARGH why do i have to have soo much crap to sort out08:51
Loufier=/08:51
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Tuxicity"World Bank OKs Bush loyalist as its chief" --> April's Fool??08:52
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kbrooksimpossible08:52
Loufierhmmmn i wont need all these windows appz :P08:52
kbrooksapril's fool ends at 1208:52
kbrooksnoon08:52
Tuxicityhaha08:53
LoufierMeh08:53
Quinn_Stormgiven what I've heard about the World Bank lately it sounds quite likely to be true08:53
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thoreauputic_kbrooks: it might have escaped your attention that there are places in the world where it isn't noon yet...08:54
Loufieri have 200gb's of evertyhing to sort out -_-'08:54
Loufierdamn adsl connection ^^08:54
adobbieFri Apr  1 13:54:21 EST 200508:54
kbrooksthoreauputic_, i know08:54
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TuxicityI dont know what is and what's not a joke on the WWW this morning... o_O08:55
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Tjdwso no ideas on how to fix this?08:56
kbrooksfix what08:56
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kbrooksi want to change the look of ubuntu?08:56
effigyi think every story on slashdot today is a joke08:56
kbrookshiw do i do so08:56
kbrookseffigy, date08:57
thoreauputic_kbrooks: gnome-look.org08:57
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Loufierwat i wana know is how im going get ubuntu workin with windows comps =/08:57
Quinn_StormTuxicity: welcome to the new age of hysteria here in idiot america (and by extension the rest of the world since america LOVES to throw its weight around)08:57
abrsMy Via EPIA M doesn't give output with x.org's via driver .. common?08:58
Quinn_Storm<--- disgruntled american08:58
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rdw200169<--- disgruntled american soldier08:58
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Tjdwi'll come back later and ask08:59
Tjdwi have to go to class08:59
Tjdwpeace08:59
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Tuxicitypeace indeed08:59
FackamatoIf I edit my xorg.conf (hoary) to include resolutions up to 1600x1200 (I only have up to 1280x960 now), how can I make the virtual viewspace to 1280x960?08:59
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Quinn_StormI feel for you, rdw200169 .08:59
FackamatoBecause if I select 1280x960, the virtual viewport is still 1600x1200 (max res found in xorg.conf )08:59
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BillEssigI can't wait for Hoarty.  I can't download it because my connection is crap, and I get bad MD5's EVERY time.09:01
BillEssigI'll order a cd.09:01
hitrikohey guys, i'm rahter new to linux and don't know how to fix this mistake i'm getting while trying to install xine... does anyone want to see the message?09:01
adobbieBillEssig: dialup?09:01
BillEssigAnyone else have that problem with DSL09:01
BillEssigDSL09:01
BillEssig1.5 Meg09:01
Fackamato1.5 meg?09:01
abrshitriko, /msg it09:02
phobosangercan someone here help me with Java installing one Konq.?09:02
BillEssig1.5 meg DSL09:02
Quinn_StormI think ubuntu is one of the better things to happen to linux in a long time...I mean all that money behind an organization that actually believes in a philosophy as open & free as the dfsg, that's pretty amazing.09:02
Fackamatodoesn't matter what speed it is, does it?09:02
BillEssigNo.09:02
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BillEssigI assume not.09:02
hitrikoroot@Dikjio-San:/home/hitriko/Desktop/xine-lib-1-rc6a # ./configure09:02
hitrikochecking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu09:02
abrsno09:02
abrsstop09:02
hitrikochecking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu09:02
hitrikochecking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu09:03
hitrikochecking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c09:03
abrsopen a query please09:03
hitrikochecking whether build environment is sane... yes09:03
abrsargh09:03
hitrikochecking for gawk... no09:03
hitrikochecking for mawk... mawk09:03
hitrikochecking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes09:03
hitrikochecking for style of include used by make... GNU09:03
thoreauputic_hitriko: stop flooding and don't compile xine09:03
hitrikochecking for gcc... no09:03
hitrikochecking for cc... no09:03
abrshitriko, close your client09:03
hitrikochecking for cc... no09:03
BillEssigJUST GET IT IN SYNAPTIC!09:03
hitrikochecking for cl... no09:03
hitrikoconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH09:03
hitrikoSee `config.log' for more details.09:03
hitrikosorry -_-;09:03
hitriko:(09:03
thoreauputic_hitriko: stop it NOW09:03
TuxicityLOL09:03
hitrikoi did09:03
abrsargh09:03
hitrikoi'm not pasting anything anymore!09:03
abrsthanks09:04
Quinn_Stormhitriko: to fix the problem you have, apt-get install build-essential09:04
hitrikosorry...09:04
thoreauputic_hitriko: you've succeeded in annoying the whole channel for nothing09:04
Quinn_Stormthoreauputic_: it could have been an accident09:04
thoreauputic_Quinn_Storm: no, he should apt-get install xine09:04
thoreauputic_not compile it09:04
Quinn_Stormthoreauputic_: ah, he's trying to compile xine? yeah he should install it via apt09:04
hitrikothoreauputic: i'm sorry dude09:04
Quinn_Stormthoreauputic_: I didn't look at what he was compiling09:05
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thoreauputic_hitriko:  just do sudo apt-get install xine09:05
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thoreauputic_hitriko: it's OK - I guess you won't be doing *that* again ;-)09:05
BillEssig(Synaptic maby?) Just a thought.09:05
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hitrikothoreauputic: i won't09:06
LoufierARGH i hate windows... fuckin up like abitch :((09:06
BillEssigYea09:06
thoreauputic_hitriko: as a guide, always check to see if a package is available in synaptic, or use apt09:06
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BillEssigLoufier: I BSOD daily. 0XCA 0x01, bitchy hardware PDO ID errors.09:06
thoreauputic_hitriko: you'll need extra repositories09:06
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rodnarmsthat april fools login splash is horrible ;)09:06
abrsi'm explaining it to him09:07
TuxicityLoufier, I luv your freedom of expression, LOL09:07
thoreauputic_hitriko: read this >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:07
darren_How to I extract a .tbz?09:07
abrstar xjf09:07
abrstar xjf <file>09:08
abrsor use fileroller09:08
hitrikok09:08
hitrikothoreauputic: i'll see f i can get this to work -_-;09:08
BillEssigabrs: WINZIP!!!!! (It will come for you in the night)09:08
abrsBillEssig: ?09:08
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Loufierowell ill have ubuntu installed soon :)09:08
BillEssigMy friend asked? So in this linux, can you use winzip? Should explain09:08
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thoreauputic_hitriko: if you follow that link and do as it says, it *will* work09:09
Loufierlolz09:09
Loufierwhy do u want to use WINZIP!09:09
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Loufierfor Linux09:09
Loufier^^09:09
BillEssigHes a little off.09:09
LoufierWINZIP FOR LINUX ^^09:09
thoreauputic_BillEssig: funnily enough, the command is `zip` *grin*09:09
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thoreauputic_and unzip of course...09:10
BillEssiglol09:10
Loufierhahaha, i rember someone wanting to make mirc run on linux ^^09:10
BillEssigyea09:10
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georgeshi. anyone using transcode on hoary?09:10
ulissehi all09:10
MestaphelesTjdw: can you do a apt-get upgrade first, then either apt-get -f install or apt-get dist-upgrade ?09:10
thoreauputic_Linzip??  hahah09:10
DalkusMestapheles, yeah09:10
raydeew i don't even use winzip in windows.... winrar is where it's at09:10
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Dalkusdo apt-get update first i think09:11
BillEssigLinspire... Augh. Hate it.09:11
Dalkusthen upgrade, then dist-upgrade09:11
BillEssigLinzip...09:11
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Mestaphelesthat's how I got thru it09:11
TuxicityOpenZiper, LOL!09:11
ulisseI remember in the first days of hoary I had a tool similar to partitionmagic in the menu...09:11
ulissewhat is the name of that tool?09:12
thoreauputic_FreeBSDipperZip !09:12
Mestaphelesif there are anythings that were not warty released software now is the time to remove it aswell09:12
thoreauputic_ulisse: gparted or qtparted09:12
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ulissethoreauputic_, is it still somewhere in hoary?09:13
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PDi installed tuxracer for the first time ever, its nice, bu does that have a sound in ti09:13
PD*it09:13
thoreauputic_ulisse: you can install it I guess - I'm on Warty here09:13
Cube-nessdoes anybody YET know of why some computers (seems to be newer machines with SATA) get a kernel panic, oops, failed to sync type error on any kernel newer than 2.6.8?09:13
hohlraumhow did the Ubuntu guys get mr. clean to pose for that picture?09:13
Cube-nessits a hotplug issue09:13
Cube-nesssomething in the hotplug startup causes it to bail09:14
zenroxPD,  yes esd has to be enabled for sound09:14
PDzenrox: can you brief a little bit about esd09:14
zenroxpd your system sounds09:14
PDzenrox: how do i enable it09:14
PDyeah my systtem sounds working fine09:15
ulissethoreauputic_, I think it was something about gnome-system-tools, 'cause it was in the menu by default...09:15
zenroxsystem -> settings ->sound09:15
ulisseI'll try gparted09:15
darren_configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check09:15
darren_See `config.log' for more details.09:15
darren_What can I do to fix that problem?09:15
PDzenrox: come to think of it just now I tried my system sounds are not working09:15
zenroxdarren_,  do a sudo apt-get build-essential09:15
zenroxthen try compiling09:16
PDzenrox: i dont hear any sounds when I do tab tab and all that09:16
kbrooks;)09:16
darren_thanks zenrox09:16
zenroxpd enable the sound server  and restart gnome09:16
zenroxbe prepared to chage vol quickly09:16
nyduststrange even when root are anable i cant login to webmin09:17
PDzenrox:  where do i restart the sound server09:17
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zenroxpd system -> settings ->sound09:17
LeeJunFannydust: webmin has it's own passwd file /etc/webmin/miniserv.users09:17
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nydustLeeJunFan, by default it use the root password09:18
LeeJunFannydust: copy your root passwd from /etc/shadow and past it in the webmin one.09:18
LeeJunFannydust: when you install it. It copies what you have but it doesn't use the /etc/shadow file.09:18
FackamatoIf I edit my xorg.conf (hoary) to include resolutions up to 1600x1200 (I only have up to 1280x960 now), how can I make the virtual viewspace to 1280x960?09:18
FackamatoBecause if I select 1280x960, the virtual viewport is still 1600x1200 (max res found in xorg.conf )09:18
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nydustLeeJunFan, still dosent work09:20
nydustthis is strange09:21
KeizerDamn09:21
KeizerI built Java according to the guide on ubuntu guide09:21
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KeizerBut I don't think it installed ODBC09:21
KeizerI need ODBC so I can connect to MySQL with Java.09:21
kbrooksKeizer, it didn't09:22
KeizerOuch >_<09:22
KeizerTell me, how can I get it wise one with the force.09:22
kbrooks.....09:22
kbrooksdude.09:22
Keizer=)09:22
LeeJunFannydust: /etc/init.d/webmin restart09:22
nydustdone09:22
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KeizerWebmin sucks >_<09:22
KeizerSSH rules09:22
nydustLeeJunFan, I MA INN09:23
nydustTHANKS09:23
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LeeJunFannydust: yer welcome09:23
effigywhat do i have to add to sources.list to get marillat(sp?)09:24
rumpelstiltskinleejunfan: whats more disgustung than that...?09:24
thoreauputic_effigy: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:24
thoreauputic_that tells you all :)09:24
LeeJunFanrumpelstiltskin: look what's walking down the sidewalk - that's what.09:24
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rumpelstiltskinpasswd09:26
rumpelstiltskinoops09:26
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KeizerIs it possible to build Java ODBC into Ubuntu?09:27
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KeizerCan I use java-package src.rpm to build from a .bin JDK?09:27
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jncnote,  that april 1st fools day image is hilarious09:28
jncand awesome09:28
jncwho is the shoe? (person whom took the picture i presume)09:28
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hitrikoDoes anyone know if i can download templates for openoffice?09:29
nydustLeeJunFan, maybe you know why webmin dont let me remote login? i have told it to allow all hosts09:29
libbenThis means that besides the actual upgrade of the packages some further action (such as installing or removing packages) is required.09:29
effigythat restrictedformats page dosnt tell me what i need to do for hoary09:29
libbenPlease use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation.09:29
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cavediverAnyone experencing problem with x64 Hoary in Gnome. I'm having trouble opening many applications at one time. The first one opens ok, but the other are just placed in the panel.09:30
libbenwhat do they mean...09:30
effigyi go in synaptic to add custom line then do "eb ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable main" but it dosnt work09:30
hawke_effigy: "eb"?09:30
effigydeb09:30
randabisDEB not eb09:30
effigyyeah, typo09:31
CarlK"Ubunto device database" does an audio test that plays a .wav - any one knoe what the filename is?09:31
hawke_effigy: I ran into that too.09:31
randabisdid you apt-get update after making the change effigy?09:31
hawke_effigy: I think it actually does add it.09:31
KeizerCarlK, Java, why does Ubuntu not have?09:31
KeizerI can build JDK for RHEL no problem09:31
hawke_effigy: try closing synaptic and looking at /etc/apt/sources.list09:31
KeizerBut Ubuntu, need something to build source from09:31
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randabisKeizer: no java because it isn't GPL iirc09:31
KeizerSo I can make .debs and install java ODBC09:31
KeizerOMG09:31
randabisyou can use java package09:32
AmaranthKeizer: http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:32
KeizerThere's gotta be a way around it.09:32
effigywell when it goes to update the package indexes it gives me an error saying it cant get them all09:32
effigyp://ftp.nerim.net/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)09:32
effigyhmm09:32
Keizerrandabis, I'm going to take the leep.09:32
randabisKeizer: just use java-package to make debs from the .bin09:32
hawke_effigy: But I think it should be 'deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main'09:32
hawke_effigy: In any case, it just changes /etc/apt/sources.list, so that's the file to look at.09:33
Keizerrandabis, Okie doke09:33
nydustout with debian inn with ubuntu on my server ;)09:33
effigyokie, i shall try that09:33
thoreauputic_effigy: the sources on the wiki are correct - maybe you got the syntax slightly wrong?09:34
thoreauputic_effigy: ubuntuguide.org has the sources as well09:34
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LeeJunFannydust: sorry - at work. got called away.09:35
nydustLeeJunFan, maybe you know why webmin dont let me remote login? i have told it to allow all hosts09:35
hawke_thoreauputic_: if the wiki says just ftp.nerim.net it's wrong.09:35
effigyyeah i added the /debian-marillat/ and i got rid of the first error09:35
hawke_thoreauputic_: http://debian.video.free.fr/09:35
effigynow i get this:09:35
effigyW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90709:35
thoreauputic_hawke_: it doesn't09:35
hawke_effigy: that's just a warning09:35
effigyalright09:35
LeeJunFannydust: did you edit miniserv.conf?09:35
LeeJunFannydust: allow=127.0.0.109:36
nydustLeeJunFan, yeah09:36
nydusti have loged inn and enabled allow all hosts09:36
nydustbut cant get inn09:36
LeeJunFanhave you tried since you restarted it?09:36
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nydustyeah09:36
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nyduststill i cant login09:36
thoreauputic_hawke_: I used the sources from the wiki on warty and they were fine - can't speak for hoary09:37
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KeizerHow can I find out what files exactly that apt installed for a package so I can execute and make .deb files09:37
phoenixp3kHello! I can't install gFTP09:37
ulisseI have no more sounds in xchat! folder ~/.xchat2/sounds doesn't exists! Why?09:37
ssbobwho would I need to bribe to get the copy into ram feature back into the Live CD?09:37
LeeJunFannydust: I dunno. I haven't tried logging into mine from remote yet :)09:38
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phoenixp3k gftp-gtk (= 2.0.17-6) mais 2.0.17-6ubuntu0.2 needed09:38
phoenixp3khow am I supposed to update just this package?09:38
libbenPlease use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation. //// I dont understand... i did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it still complains...09:39
libbenhow do i use synaptic smart upgrade. cant find that option in syn09:39
kbrooksi have a question about xnest09:40
nydustLeeJunFan, it works now thanks09:40
kbrooks<kbrooks> ok09:41
kbrooks<kbrooks> i have a question about xnest09:41
kbrooks<kbrooks> it wont start gnome. why09:41
Tuxicitylibben, Settings-->Preferences-->System Upgrade09:41
kbrooksanyone09:41
thoreauputic_kbrooks: are you starting it from command line? what command are you using?09:41
kbrooksXnest :109:42
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Jimbobkbrooks: Try "gdmflexiserver -n"09:42
Keizerrandabis, What's the filename to execute java-package?09:42
thoreauputic_kbrooks: try  Xnest -ac :109:42
kbrooksJimbob, wow thx09:42
kbrooksf***09:43
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kbrooksJimbob: cant type anything09:44
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JimbobTry explicitly clicking in the entry?09:44
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kbrooksfailled09:45
ulissecould someone type my name, pls? Just to test if sound works in xchat...09:45
thoreauputic_ulisse:09:45
ulissethanks, sound not working...09:45
Jimbobhmm09:45
kbrooksulisse09:46
Xiraulisse09:46
kbrooksulisse09:46
kbrooks:P09:46
Jimbobkbrooks: beats me09:46
Jimboblol09:46
ulisseThanks a lot!09:46
awb4422is there a way to add a user to the sudo'ers group?09:46
ssbobawb4422: visudo as root09:46
thoreauputic_awb4422: visudo09:46
awb4422oh cool, thanks!09:46
awb4422when i build mythtv, the mythtv user is added, but it is not in the sudo group, and it doesnt have /bin/bash as the shell..so i want to manually change those09:47
ulisseType it again!09:47
Tuxicityulisse,09:47
Jimbobulisse: We aren't your monkeys. :-P09:47
ulisseagain no sound... mmmh :-(09:48
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KeizerLMAO09:48
bretze1thoreauputic_: About visudo "as root" I did sudo su; then visudo but I even don;t see my username in the file ... What am I missing ?09:48
KeizerIs it safe to use sudo make-jpkg?09:48
KeizerI used fakeroot, it installs but gives tons of permission denied errors.09:49
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Sjoqhello all09:49
thoreauputic_bretze1: odd - your name should be there09:49
effigywhat the best music sharing program for gnome?09:49
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ssbobbretze1: you're probably in the admin group, which should be there09:50
Keizereffigy, I like LimeWire09:50
KeizerSAMBA is good if you're in a dorm LOL09:50
Sjoqcan ubuntu linux handle centrino technology09:50
effigythanks, ill try it09:50
KeizerIf the Kernel can handle it Ubuntu can09:50
Sjoqhmm..i wonder then a lot09:50
accuserSjoq, works on my laptop - dell inspiron 510m09:50
Sjoqcause i want to install it on my laptop09:50
Keizereffigy, I think the Kernel 2.6 will handle it well09:50
bretze1thoreauputic_ nope... strange... /etc/sudoers has only "root    ALL=(ALL) ALL" and then "%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL" (???)09:51
Sjoqokay kewl accuser09:51
Tuxicityeffigy, see ubuntuguide.org for Limewire09:51
KeizerI'm running Ubuntu on this laptop.09:51
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bretze1admin group :-)09:51
Sjoqkewl kewl :)09:51
KeizerGot a nice wireless status indicator, battery life indicator and all the fluff09:51
darren_Why does xmms crash everytime I try to play an mp3? (Hoary)09:51
rumpelstiltskinLeeJunFan, you smell09:51
rumpelstiltskinLeeJunFan, of semen09:51
Sjoqi'll run it then on my asus m6727 laptop09:51
bretze1DUH!!!!!!!!!09:51
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kbredeSjoq, whoary works fine with my centrino on a dell 860009:51
bretze1...yes I am :-/09:52
LeeJunFanrumpelstiltskin: glad you know what that smells like - care explaining how you are so familiar with that smell?09:52
Sjoqkewl kbrede09:52
rumpelstiltskinLeeJunFan, no... not really.... hehe09:52
Keizerdarren_, esd problem09:52
LeeJunFanrumpelstiltskin: this is a family ch by the way.09:52
Sjoqgood to hear that people support the company i work for09:52
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KeizerHah09:52
KeizerDell?09:53
rumpelstiltskinLeeJunFan: good for it09:53
Sjoqyup09:53
KeizerI work for a retail company09:53
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darren_Keizer, can you explain?09:53
Sjoqi do the Dell Technical Support for dimension desktops and inspiron notebooks here in the benelux09:53
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accuserSjoq, 510m rocks09:53
Sjoqshared video memory sucks09:54
accuserlol09:54
Keizerdarren_, esd is being a pain in hoary09:54
Sjoqwould rather have the 860009:54
kbrooksesd? wtf09:54
darren_What's esd?09:54
Sjoqor 930009:54
KeizereSound09:54
darren_Is there a fix?09:54
Keizerdarren_, ps aux|grep esd09:54
Sjoqdell is soon going to bring out some very cheap notebooks :)09:54
KeizerKill -15 esdpid and your MP3s will work09:54
hohlraumesd == satan09:54
accuserSjoq, i wanted a light but powerful box - 510m is perfect. all my clients drool over it09:54
Sjoqkewl kewl accuser09:55
Sjoqi love my asus :)09:55
darren_darren@Sesame-Street:~$ ps aux|grep esd09:55
darren_darren    6402  0.0  0.8   5324  4028 ?        S    18:07   0:06 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps09:55
darren_darren    4070  0.0  0.1   2908   552 pts/0    R+   20:54   0:00 grep esd09:55
KeizerI want to make an uber box with a cube case09:55
accuserSjoq, careful how you type that09:55
blawsonI am having problems with my Inspiron 8600 and suspend to ram, I can get it to work using the nv video drivers, but when I use the nvidia drivers I am unable to resume. I wouldnt mind just using the nv drivers, but the perfornace is absolutly terrible with them. Is there anyway I can get the nvidia drivers working?09:55
Keizerdarren_, The top one09:55
Sjoqhehehehe :D09:55
darren_Keizer, what do I do?09:55
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bretze1About xfce4 - xkb layout switcher pluggin: How/where can I add another layout ? see no hints in /etc/... nor in docs ...?09:56
accuserSjoq, i've been running hoary live cd on my laptop without problems. wating for a contract to finish, then installing for real09:56
Sjoqhehehehe09:56
thoreauputic_darren_: kill the pid by number09:56
josuehi, anyone knows if there's a .deb package for openoffice 2.0beta available?09:56
|QuaD-josue: yeah... in universe09:56
Keizerdarren_, Like thoreauputic_ said09:57
darren_thoreauputic_, Do I have to do that everytime I want to play an mp3?09:57
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Keizerdarren_, Only for that session09:57
KeizerAfter you reboot your computer you'll have to do it again09:57
KeizerUnless09:57
thoreauputic_darren_: no once it's deed it stays dead :)09:57
thoreauputic_*dead09:57
KeizerYou select your output plugin to be eSound09:57
ulisseok, now sound is working.09:58
KeizerIf your output plugin is set for eSound theoretically it would work.09:58
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cyklusUsing a Thinkpad im having problems with unusually high power drain on my battery.. after installing ubuntu i only get about 30min battery life... vs. 2 hours before... any help appriciated?09:58
darren_Keizer, how would I do that?09:58
ulisseThanks to all.09:58
KeizerLOL09:58
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Kamakazieanyone tried ntold Legends?09:58
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Keizerdarren_, kill -15 esdpid09:58
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Keizerdarren_, You don't know which one is the eSound Process ID (esdpid)09:58
thoreauputic_darren_: you can set the xmms output plugin in the prefs foe xmms09:59
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Keizerdarren_, Try out Beep-Media-Player09:59
KeizerI recommend Beep-Media-Player to everyone09:59
KeizerIt's a sweet player that supports Winamp skins10:00
KeizerIt's awesome10:00
thoreauputic_Keizer: I liked it at first - but I find xmms more reliable here10:00
darren_Same as xmms10:00
Sjoqwhen is hoary coming out/10:00
|QuaD-Sjoq: april 6 i believe10:00
scizzoSjoq: in April sometime10:00
Sjoqkewl10:00
darren_The output plugin is OSS DRiver 1.2.10 [libOSS.so] 10:00
Tuxicitysomebody said april 810:00
Keizerthoreauputic_, too bad, beep-media-player is a champ on my 1.6Ghz 256MB RAM box.10:01
Sjoqi wonder..shall i install warty or not10:01
thoreauputic_darren_: so change the plugin10:01
KeizerLOL10:01
KeizerI like using OSS10:01
|QuaD-Sjoq: whatever you want :)10:01
darren_I changed it to ALSA10:01
scizzo April 8th: Hoary Hedgehog Final10:01
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Sjoqlol10:01
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scizzohttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryReleaseSchedule10:02
dabeejummm10:02
Sjoqneed user opinions :D10:02
darren_Anyone know where I can get the w32codecs deb package?10:02
dabeejubuntu april fools joke?10:02
thoreauputic_Keizer: yes, it's odd - beep tends to freeze where xmms doesn't - haven't found the problem yet10:02
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darren_ok10:02
Mirvmy eyeeeeeeeees.. noooo.. shouldn't have done anything with hoary today :)10:02
dabeejMirv, what i said =)10:02
thoreauputic_darren_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:03
darren_thanks once again thoreauputic_  :P10:03
Keizerthoreauputic_, beep-media-player is awesome10:03
KeizerInstall Hoary, Warty is old10:04
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KeizerI think java-package did it10:04
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thoreauputic_Keizer: so everyone says - to me it looks just like xmms except for the menus10:04
Mr-Petahhi10:04
thoreauputic_Keizer: it even uses the same skins10:04
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Mr-Petahquestion: how to add a new source to apt-get?10:05
Mr-Petah:s10:05
thoreauputic_Keizer: I must have missed omething10:05
Keizerthoreauputic_, It's the pwn10:05
darren_Mr-Petah,  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse10:05
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tjmasterhello10:05
thoreauputic_Keizer: why? What's so much better about it?10:05
tjmasterhola10:05
bobesponjaif I make my /dev/hda5 bootable (with cfdisk) will that wipe out all the data on it?10:06
Keizerthoreauputic_, It's awesome, supports Winamp skins10:06
Mr-Petahhola / hi10:06
KeizerAnd it looks like winamp10:06
KeizerLike Windows was my home10:06
KeizerNow Linux is my home10:06
thoreauputic_Keizer: so does xmms10:06
KeizerLike i've got a little piece of windows with me =D10:06
KeizerXMMS is too old for me man10:06
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KeizerI used it years ago, I like to see new projects like BMP10:06
tjmasteralguien habla espanol10:06
tjmaster?10:06
thoreauputic_Keizer: it sounds the same :-)10:06
Mr-Petahdarren_, ok, $ sudo deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse   ????????10:06
kayhello, i think i need to mix Ubuntu with Debian10:06
Tuxicitytjmaster, #ubuntu-es10:07
thoreauputic_Keizer: which is the test for a sound app, No?10:07
tjmastergracias10:07
darren_Mr-Petah, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-10-20.341450654310:07
Tuxicitytjmaster, no problemo10:07
kaycan it be done, I have seen that in this case, packages with same name, but different sizes confuse apt10:07
Mr-Petahyo, pero aqui solo ingles ;)10:07
Mr-Petahdarren, tnx ;)10:07
Keizerthoreauputic_, I only use BMP now.10:07
kayI only want to install gcc4-0 from them10:07
Mr-Petahi go to read, back now10:08
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thoreauputic_kay: don't mix debian with ubuntu Bad Things 9tm) can happen10:08
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KeizerCaused by: java.sql.SQLException: Data source rejected establishment of connection,  message from server: "Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server" -- Pain10:08
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thoreauputic_heh (tm)10:08
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GNAMwow a short topic incredible10:08
Mr-Petahok, but only have this: deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/10:08
kbrookskay: .....10:08
Mr-Petah:s10:09
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kaykbrooks: yes? :)10:09
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blawson I am having problems with my Inspiron 8600 and suspend to ram, I can get it to work using the nv video drivers, but when I use the nvidia drivers I am unable to resume. I wouldnt mind just using the nv drivers, but the performance is absolutly terrible with them. Is there anyway I can get the nvidia drivers working?10:09
Keizerblawson, How did you install? init 3 and run their sh script?10:10
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blawsonKeizer: I installed it with the Nvidia .run file from Nvidia's site, also I tried it through apt-get, neither worked10:11
blawsonthe nvidia drivers work, just not with suspending10:11
darren_thoreauputic_, I can't find any info on w32codecs10:11
massimilianohello to all...i am italian....excuse for my english but i have a problem with my hoary...10:11
Keizerblawson, Search Google for NVIDIA suspend mode or something like that.10:11
KeizerNVIDIA Linux Suspend mode10:12
nydustwhere are the mysql lib?10:12
nydustand mysql database dir?10:12
Keizernydust, /var/10:12
thoreauputic_darren_: if you have those repositories, you can just apt-get install them10:12
massimilianoi have the problems with the change of icons in hoary10:12
Keizernydust, You installing php with --with-mysql=/var/lib/ ?10:12
darren_thoreauputic_, I've added them but can't find it10:12
blawsonOk, i'll give that a shot, I've been looking through forums for something similar but havent found any answers10:12
massimilianoThere is someone that can help me?10:12
nydustKeizer, i did apt-get install10:13
Keizerblawson, The NVIDIA forum may have them10:13
thoreauputic_darren_: apt-cache search w32codecs10:13
Keizernydust, sudo locate -u10:13
Keizernydust, Then do locate mysql.h10:13
thoreauputic_darren_: have you reloaded or done sudo apt-get update?10:14
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nydustKeizer, i get no such file or dir10:15
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Keizernydust, I'll have your answer in a sec10:15
darren_thoreauputic_,  I've reloaded10:15
Echylohmm I get next error :configure: error: Unable to find scrnsaver.h.  You probably need to install XFree86 development packages10:16
Echylowhat do I need to install10:16
EchyloI have xorg btw10:16
ruisotohey someone knows about a change in the login screen, i see some guys imitating the three holding persons10:16
thoreauputic_darren_: what does  apt-cache search w32codecs say?10:16
ruisotois this a hack, aprils fool day or what_10:16
Echyloruisoto that's the ubuntu logo, probably a april fools, by the development team10:16
Keizernydust, I believe I installed with apt-get as well10:16
thoreauputic_ruisoto: what do you think?10:16
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ruisotoi dont know...10:17
darren_thoreauputic_, nothing10:17
ruisotolooks weird10:17
ruisotoim scared10:17
darren_apt-get install w32codes gives this:10:17
darren_Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:17
darren_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:17
darren_is only available from another source10:17
darren_E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate10:17
nydustKeizer, its in /var/lib/mysql i found it10:17
Echyloanyway knows what the xfree86 development packages are? I need to solve this configure: error: Unable to find scrnsaver.h.  You probably need to install XFree86 development packages ?10:17
thoreauputic_darren_: you've made a mistake of some kind10:17
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Keizernydust, LOL that's what I said from the beginning10:17
ruisotoso it is aprils fool day thing_10:17
KeizerGood job10:17
darren_thoreauputic_, I added the marilliat repos like it said10:17
thoreauputic_darren_: if you have the marillat repos, the codecs are there10:17
nydustdarren_, apt-get didnt work for me.. use synaptic and search for it10:17
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darren_nydust, I have10:18
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thoreauputic_darren_: what does ` sudo apt-get install w32codecs` say?10:19
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dabugashi10:19
nydustdarren_, ;) thanks10:19
dabugaswhat do i need to paly wavs?10:19
dabugaspaly=play10:19
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thoreauputic_dabugas: have you tried? Any music player can handle wav ...10:20
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dabugasthoreauputic: i know! :) xmms and sound-recorder just ignore me when i press play, although i can hear mp3s, oggs and whatnot10:21
thoreauputic_dabugas: or even type `  aplay  <name of wav file>10:21
LittleWashuHave you guys heard about it yet?10:22
darren_thoreauputic_,  I had to add the repos through terminal, synaptic wasn't adding properly10:23
LittleWashuCuz I've been hearing a little this and that about Ubuntu having a kernal panic attack. Could you tell me is true and if I have one what the fuck should I do?10:23
dabugasthoreauputic: aplay works!10:23
thoreauputic_darren_: ah - interesting...10:23
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thoreauputic_dabugas: try changing the output plugin to alsa then10:24
thoreauputic_in xmms10:24
kbrooksok10:24
kbrooksummm. i gtg10:24
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jagera27can someone tell me from which folder i need to extract/install latest firefox to make it clickable from the top toolbar icon, please10:24
dabugasthoreauputic: esd, alsa & oss (the last of which was what i was using) don't work...10:25
dabugasthoreauputic: could it be something to do with gnome's esd daemon? or am i just talking nonsense? :)10:25
thoreauputic_jagera27: it doesn't matter as long as you type the fukk path to the firefox script in the command field of your custom launcher10:26
thoreauputic_dabugas: it could be indeed10:26
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thoreauputic_dabugas: are you  on hoary ?10:26
thoreauputic_jagera27: oops  s/fukk/full ;-)10:27
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thoreauputic_nice typo ...10:27
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jagera27ta, at the moment it just says 'firefox', i'll try the full path, thanks10:27
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tenzhi10:27
thoreauputic_jagera27: or make a symlink in /usr/local/bin10:28
dabugasthoreauputic: more or less ;) i've half-updated from warty which is probably why i have various problems like this :)10:28
thoreauputic_dabugas: could well be10:28
dabugasthoreauputic: anyway i killed the esd daemon and it still doesn't work from xmms w/ oss, but is playing on aplay10:28
tenzhas anybody installed "Ardour" (soundcreation programm) on Ubuntu hoary?10:29
dabugasthoreauputic: well, what sort of thing would i still have to update to get fscking gnome to work properly? :)10:29
thoreauputic_dabugas: that way it oes direct to alsa10:29
dabugasthoreauputic: which way?10:29
thoreauputic_dabugas: dunno really - I'm still using warty :)10:29
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thoreauputic_dabugas: aplay is alsa player10:29
libbenmy webcam got identified.... what program to check the feed?10:30
dabugasthoreauputic: well, the alsa doesn't work in xmms10:30
thoreauputic_dabugas: hmmm10:30
thoreauputic_dabugas: I quite often just play music from the cli with e.g. mpg321 *.mp310:31
thoreauputic_dabugas: not pretty but quick and practical10:31
dabugasi don't use that many wavs and since aplay works, i'm okay10:32
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thoreauputic_dabugas: I guess aplay would do that too (play the whole dir - if you need it)10:32
dabugasbut switching to linux for me (because i do have the occasional digression into windows) is all about FREAKING WORKING! :)10:32
dabugasit's just one wav i wanted to listen to, no problem :)10:32
dabugasjust wish xmms behaved :)10:33
thoreauputic_dabugas: sound and multimedia are tricky areas in linux because of patents and restrictions10:33
libbenmy webcam got identified.... what program to check the feed?10:33
tenzhas anybody installed "Ardour" (soundcreation programm) on Ubuntu hoary? (I think I have a problem with "jack")10:33
dabugasthoreauputic: i know. i'm still pretty useless but i've been with linux for many years. i remember when usb was a new thing :)10:34
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dabugasand even further back, although i don't actually remember that much (frustrated nights-hair pulling-you kind of regress all that)10:34
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kkathmangreetings all :)10:34
thoreauputic_dabugas: laddy, I programmed in fortran on an IBM 360 with punch-cards ;)10:34
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dabugasthoreauputic: i'm not showing off my age; i was simply trying to say i've seen tougher times in linux. i used lynx regularly for chrissakes :)10:35
kkathmanthoreauputic_, no kidding...you and I belong to the same era I think :)10:35
thoreauputic_kkathman: I've forgotten everything, unfortunately ;-)10:36
kkathmanthoreauputic_, I started in high school learning fortran on a timeshare TTY with paper tape :)10:36
dabugasthoreauputic: my first machine was an amstrad that used a TAPE RECORDER. I'm an english paper. I like paper. I'd go with punch-cards any day of the week.10:36
thoreauputic_dabugas: sure, i was just being the annoying old fart :)10:36
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spearhi !10:37
kkathmandabugas, I remember putting together my first PC, it had a whopping 4MB of memory and used a cassette player for loading programs..no floppy or harddrive :)10:37
dabugasthoreauputic: be the annoying old fart. i definately intend to when my children (or somebody's) are saying that they don't have enough nuclear reactors to power their 6D virtual reality machines... ;)10:37
thoreauputic_kkathman: we had to type our stuff onto cards with a mechanical punch card keyboard :)10:38
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dabugaskkathman: that's more or less like what i had10:38
dabugasbut i got it in the late 80s, being in greece, we were somewhat slow in developing10:38
kkathmanthoreauputic_, In college I remember doing that  but we also had access to timeshare on a CDC 660010:38
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thoreauputic_kkathman: we also did some simple assembler stuff on a PDP-1110:39
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kkathmanthoreauputic_, all those cards....all those JCLs...and woe to you if you dropped the deck!10:39
dabugaskkathman: although 4MB of memory sounds like a lot; can't be sure though. it's been too long10:39
thoreauputic_that was a long time ago...10:39
velocity_kendallhey10:39
velocity_kendallcan someone give me some guidance10:39
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velocity_kendallhow do i play xvid in ubuntu 5.04?10:39
thoreauputic_kkathman: indeed! It was so exciting when something actually compiled and ran!10:40
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kkathmandabugas, that PC at that time was a step up from the old IMSAI .. it had a firmware boot rather than actual toggling switches to boot (ala PDP)10:40
velocity_kendallhow do i play xvid in ubuntu 5.04?10:40
velocity_kendallanyone?10:40
DXTsay anyone managed to get sound working in ventrlo (wine)?10:40
Berserkerhi people! installer cant find info about partition table of my IDE HDD. But in near console i can list it by `fdisk -l` and mount all partitions to any mountpoints10:40
DXTvelocity check the "Mutimedia HOWTO" @ ubuntuforums->ubuntu 5.04 hoary->HOWTOs & FAQs10:41
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velocity_kendallyeah i found it! cheers10:42
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kkathmanQuestion:  Does anyone know of like a resource that cross references software that is available with the "apt-get" names?  I mean besides using , say, synaptic?10:42
dabugaskkathman: you baffle me with your terminology. the computer i described to you was the first computer i used. i didn't actually know how it worked. only what rudimentary BASIC was needed to run the occasional game (which took 15 minutes to load from tape;)10:42
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dabugaskkathman: what do you mean, like "apt-cache search <whatever>" ?10:43
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kkathmandabugas,  Well I dont know if you remember a company named "Heathkit" but they sponsored San Antonio based company that sold kits for PCs. You bought it, then you literally put it together components and all10:44
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Slask3ndoes hoary have the newest version of GnuPG (1.4.1)?10:44
dmoyneI have a problem when opening a file with accentuated charcaters in its name with GIMP ; where tos ak to know how to fix this ? ; thaks.10:44
velocity_kendallwhy does firefox 1.0.2 show up in synaptic?10:44
velocity_kendalli tried enabling all the repositories10:44
velocity_kendallthe only way is to get it from the mozilla site?10:44
velocity_kendalli mean, why does it NOT show up10:45
drbombay43yellow all, can or will somebody please tell me where to find info on mp3 playback in rhythm-box?10:45
lionBGvelocity_kendall, are you on hoary?10:45
velocity_kendallyes10:45
thoreauputic_dmoyne: try running gimp <firstfewletters TAB TAB > from commandline10:45
kkathmandabugas, Well, what I was looking for was...Lots of times Im looking for a particular software solution for something, say a DVD Writer. Where do you go to look for "DVD Writers" for Linux and then get the appropriate name that apt-get would use on install?10:45
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kkathmanOther than say Google :)10:45
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dabugaskkathman: i don't what they did in san antonia; they sold actually computers here :p10:46
velocity_kendallUbuntu package 1.0+dfsg.1-6ubuntu1 apparently10:46
velocity_kendallwhy can't i just have 1.0.2 :(10:46
kkathmandabugas - in 1975 they didnt :)10:46
dmoynethoreauputic : what is tthsi supposed to do ?10:46
uggwarwhen starting eclipse from a launcher, JAVA_HOME etc. isn't found. any idea where I should put the variables? I have them in /etc/bash.bashrc now10:46
dabugaskkathman: i use "apt-cache search" with relevant keywords to find software adn then apt-get to get them. synaptic is ugly and crappy ;)10:46
thoreauputic_dmoyne: tab complete the file name for you10:46
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lionBGvelocity_kendall, for me it's mozilla-firefox 1.0.2 1.0.2-0ubuntu210:47
HighlanderMcLoudback to ubuntu mantra10:47
thoreauputic_dmoyne: thus hopefully bypassing the parsing error10:47
HighlanderMcLoudhi guys and girls10:47
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dabugaskkathman: i wasn't even born in 1975 :) btw, what do you mean by dvd writer? a ripper or a recorder?10:47
velocity_kendalli have gone to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/10:47
kkathmandabugas, Ill try that next time10:47
velocity_kendalland there is a 1.0.2 version10:47
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velocity_kendalldo i have the right repository selected?10:47
March-RX8hello10:47
lionBGvelocity_kendall, that was going to be my question10:47
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kkathmandabugas,  looking to do backups of data to DVDs or make/edit videos and burning DVDs10:48
velocity_kendallwell i have the basic ones selected10:48
March-RX8could someone help me with ubuntu10:48
velocity_kendalli haven't added any repositories custom10:48
lionBGvelocity_kendall, in synaptic i have all the deb repositories marked10:48
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dmoynethoreauputic : yes but I do not see how this is going to solve my problem ! ; GIMP is reporting this error message "file-utils.c:272: cannot convert filename to UTF-8: Invalid byte sequence in conversion input"10:48
kkathmanvelocity_kendall, Are you on hoary or  warty?10:48
thoreauputic_March-RX8: not unless you ask a question ;-)10:48
velocity_kendallhoary10:48
velocity_kendalli don't understand, if i surf to http:.../ubuntu/pool/main10:49
Loufiercan someone tell me wat koary and warty is10:49
kkathmanvelocity_kendall, You should just be able to do an upgrade and it will get you to 1.0.210:49
velocity_kendallthere is LOADS of new stuff10:49
thoreauputic_dmoyne: I see10:49
velocity_kendallbut none of this comes up on my synaptic10:49
Loufier*hoary10:49
March-RX8how can i add a package source for my system?10:49
thoreauputic_dmoyne: can you rename the file?10:49
velocity_kendallkkathman how do i upgrade?10:49
dabugaskkathman: i just searched for just "dvd" which gave me 4.5 terminal pages, each line a single package. This is easily readable, in my opinion. Now, i'm unhappily discovering that there's no k3b-like program in gnome. Graveman and gcombust are very, very poor.10:49
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, synaptic10:49
velocity_kendallwhat do i press?10:50
kkathmanvelocity_kendall, you do an apt-get update, then an apt-get upgrade10:50
velocity_kendallis my synaptic reading the http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ place?10:50
uggwardabugas, gnomebaker is quite nice10:50
velocity_kendallthat's where all the software seems to be10:50
kbrookss/upgrade/dist-upgrade/10:50
velocity_kendalli don't understand10:50
dmoynethoreauputic : I have hundreds of files of the sort ; it opens my file with accentuated characters but names it "Untitled" !10:50
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, no10:50
thoreauputic_March-RX8: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto10:50
kkathmanvelocity_kendall, you'll need to make sure your sources.list is accurate however10:50
uggwardabugas, http://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/10:50
dabugasuggwar: is it in the ubuntu archives?10:50
March-RX8thanks10:50
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, ^^^ read the howto too10:51
uggwardabugas, nope. you'll have to use checkinstall10:51
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Slask3nwhy doesnt hoary have the newest version of GnuPG?10:51
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thoreauputic_uggwar: there are packages10:51
dabugasLoufier: warty and hoary are version of ubuntu. Warty is the older one; Hoary is the one no being prepared and up for official release in april 25 or so, if i remember correctly10:51
cykluswhats the difference between the radeon and ati driver for ati cards??10:52
dabugasuggwar: is there a deb or rpm (for alien) anywhere? i prefer that10:52
thoreauputic_dabugas: gnomebaker packages: http://people.debian.org/~goedson/packages/ubuntu/10:52
thoreauputic_dabugas: ^^^^^10:52
uggwarthoreauputic_, ah nice. but it wasn't such a big job though :)10:52
velocity_kendallwhat is the purpose of http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ then?10:52
velocity_kendallwhat is that pool directory for?10:52
velocity_kendalldoes synaptic look in there?10:52
velocity_kendallwhere does it look10:52
thoreauputic_uggwar: checkinstall is handy :)10:52
Loufieris hoary better then warty..?10:53
velocity_kendallcan someone tell me how i update to firefox 1.0.2 in synaptic10:53
Loufierits got a higher version numba :P10:53
DXTroses are red, violets are blue, from all the distros out there, i love ubuntu! :p10:53
velocity_kendallsynaptic says the latest version is 1.0+10:53
mdzvelocity_kendall: wait a week and upgrade to Ubuntu 5.0410:53
BerserkerIs anyone knows answer in my question about Ubuntu installer ?10:53
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uggwarthoreauputic_, it is a beauty10:54
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kkathmanback in a bit..10:54
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mdzBerserker: your question was not entirely clear10:54
thoreauputic_Loufier: hoary is the newer version10:54
DXTAnyone managed to get Ventrilo working with sound? (wine)10:54
uggwarthoreauputic_, but it has acctually kept me from learning package building, so i have my grudges towards it ;)10:54
velocity_kendallcan someone PLEASE help me understand this10:54
Loufieri got the RC, can u upgrade that to the next version?10:54
thoreauputic_Loufier: hoary will be official in a week or so10:54
tckLoufier, yup10:55
DXTloufier it is does automatically via synaptic10:55
Loufierk, just wondering cuz i downlaoded and burnt it now :P10:55
velocity_kendallwhy does my synaptic say the latest firefox is 1.0+dfsg.1-6ubuntu1 ?!10:55
velocity_kendallwhy does my synaptic say the latest firefox is 1.0+dfsg.1-6ubuntu1 ?!10:55
velocity_kendallanyone?10:55
DXTi mean, just update and dist-upgrade10:55
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Loufiervelocity just install the newest package manually  or just wait, it realli doesnt matter..10:55
thoreauputic_velocity_kendall: because the 1.0.2 hasn't been packaged yet, probably10:55
Loufieraint much diffrence10:55
velocity_kendallthoreauputic then what is this: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/10:56
Slask3nwhy doesn't hoary have the newest version of GnuPG? the newest version i can find is 1.2.5 but the newest is 1.4.110:56
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mz2aargh, the april's fool gdm theme freaked me out completely :)10:56
velocity_kendallthoreauputic then what is this: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/10:57
velocity_kendall?10:57
dabugasthoreauputic & uggwar: thanks! :)10:57
uggwardabugas, np! :)10:57
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thoreauputic_velocity_kendall: development packages, by the look of it10:57
DXTmz2 - blah now i wont be surprised! :P10:57
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Loufier200gbs of obsolute crap and doesnt mattare wat i do..10:57
Loufierill lose something important :P10:57
dabugasSlask3n: can't really tell, but the feature of ubuntu is generally stability10:57
velocity_kendalldevelopment packages? what are they? how do you know?! firefox 1.0.2 is out for download not in development man10:57
uggwardabugas, i was quite happy when i found it myself. take a look at www.gnomefiles.org, if you haven't allready10:57
Loufierand figure it out wen i wipe it hahha10:57
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, may i clarify10:58
uggwardabugas, many nice apps to find10:58
March-RX8does not mplayer for ubuntu exist?10:58
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, firefox is out for dl.10:58
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kbrooksvelocity_kendall, BUT10:58
thoreauputic_velocity_kendall: chill10:58
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, and i mean but10:58
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kbrooksvelocity_kendall, you see, ther are 2 branches.10:59
velocity_kendalltwell i would if people gimmie straight knowledgeable answers10:59
Slask3ndabugas: i use 1.4.1 now, and my system is stable... can this package be added?10:59
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, warty and hoary10:59
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velocity_kendallso far within the linux community this ain't happened once!10:59
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, hoary is the development version10:59
thoreauputic_March-RX8: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:59
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dabugasuggwar: what i liked about debian (and by extension, ubuntu) is the package system. i try to avoid encumbering my sources.list, but i'm going to bookmark that site. just in case :)10:59
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, hello?10:59
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velocity_kendalli'm listening10:59
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, ok11:00
velocity_kendallso whyu did someone just tell me they had 1.0.2 in their synaptic on hoary?!11:00
velocity_kendalleh?!11:00
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kbrooksvelocity_kendall, are you on warty or hoary11:00
velocity_kendallhoary11:00
uggwardabugas, yeah, i agree. but it is nice that locally built packages show up in its own section in synaptic. so you can easily remove them11:00
nydustwhere are php.ini?11:00
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dabugasSlask3n: i am unfortunately a mere user, so i can't help you, sorry. i don't really know who you can direct this question to.11:00
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velocity_kendalli would like to know how to upgrade to fireforx 1.0.2  from with synpatic11:00
velocity_kendalli thought synaptic could get ANY program11:01
uggwardabugas, have you used checkinstall?11:01
kbrooksit can.11:01
keyhackwhat is the name of the application to configure wireless? (need the actual command name and/or package)11:01
velocity_kendallthere 1.0.2 firefox please11:01
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velocity_kendallwhy not?!11:01
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, can, not cant11:01
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, READ CAREFULLY11:01
Loufierjust not the newest firefox ;) but onli for u ;)11:01
lionBGvelocity_kendall, just get the right repositories in synaptic, reload and upgrade11:01
velocity_kendallwhat are the right ones?!11:01
velocity_kendallhow am i supposed to know11:01
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, pm me please. thanks11:02
velocity_kendalltheres about 200 different damn directories to choose from11:02
dabugasuggwar: no. what is it?11:02
velocity_kendallthere is dists, main, pool, universe, i don't understand it all11:02
Loufier^^11:02
carlos-d-manhi guys, just installed, GDM login is cute but, I have no root password :S11:02
lionBGvelocity_kendall, I don't know where are you, but I have only few and can give them to you ;)11:02
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uggwardabugas, if you can't find a .deb for your newly found app, just do .configure, make and checkinstall to build your own package11:02
dabugasvelocity_kendall: chill out man. i don't have the newest firefox either. :)11:03
carlos-d-manI don't recall being asked by the installer for a root password, so what is it? or how may I recover?11:03
lionBGvelocity_kendall, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted11:03
dabugascarlos-d-man: you're not supposed to :)11:03
keyhackwhat is the name of the application to configure wireless? (need the actual command name and/or package)11:03
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velocity_kendalli#m not so concerend about having the latest firefox11:03
dabugascarlos-d-man: the default install in ubuntu only has users and you sudo for root privileges11:03
velocity_kendalli don't give a shit about that11:03
lionBGvelocity_kendall, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe11:03
velocity_kendalli just want to understand why i can download it from mozilla.com but not using apt get/synaptic11:03
velocity_kendallsee11:04
thoreauputicvelocity_kendall: your attitude is frankly obnoxious11:04
lionBGvelocity_kendall, http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted11:04
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carlos-d-mandabugas no root password?11:04
velocity_kendallwell don't make out like i'm all about getting the latest version. i simply want to understand how this works11:04
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dabugasuggwar: ah, yes. with debian i have done away with source. one of the great lessons taught by windows. i don't want to wait 3/4 of an hour to compile mozilla. okay? :p on the other hands my brother loves this thing.... it takes all kinds :)11:05
dabugaswb thoreauputic, btw11:05
lionBGvelocity_kendall, if you have these repositories - they come as standart with Ubuntu you can have firefox 1.0.211:05
carlos-d-mandabugas I will use it for multiuser! I can't allow any moron access to sudo!11:05
velocity_kendalllionBG i have those11:05
thoreauputicvelocity_kendall: the packages have to be added to thr ubuntu archive11:05
velocity_kendalli have every single repository selected11:05
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velocity_kendalleverything, even the CD11:05
DXTHelp, I can't see the volume icon in the panel, adding it doesnt help nor doesnt switching themes or killing gnome-panel or restarting11:05
velocity_kendallthere is 8 different repositories in total11:06
lionBGvelocity_kendall, than look fo mozilla-firefox 1.0.2 package - should be there11:06
velocity_kendallit's not11:06
kakaltohttp://www.scmagazine.com/news/index.cfm?fuseaction=newsDetails&newsUID=d5ee7707-4e08-49f9-8bdf-299e79743c18&newsType=Latest%20News11:06
dabugascarlos-d-man: check out this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo/ & http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root/11:06
lionBGvelocity_kendall, i have only the deb marked and nothing added and I see it11:07
velocity_kendalllionBG what do you mean the deb?11:07
velocity_kendalli cannot see the word 'deb' anywhere in the repository list11:07
dabugascarlos-d-man: also, if you're going to run a multiuser system and don't know how to introduce a root user simply by using sudo, be prepared :)11:07
lionBGthere are deb repositories and deb-src11:08
velocity_kendalldeb?!11:08
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velocity_kendallto me it says Binary and Source11:08
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thoreauputicvelocity_kendall: cat /etc/apt/sources.list11:09
velocity_kendallyou want me to type that or what?11:09
thoreauputicyes11:09
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NetGeekwhat is the best ftp server for ubuntu?11:09
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thoreauputicin a terminal to see your sources11:09
velocity_kendallnow what?11:09
NetGeekvsftpd or proftpd?11:09
thoreauputicvelocity_kendall: READ IT11:09
velocity_kendallcan we please avoid terminal i prefer gui11:10
carlos-d-manthis sudo thinguie is cute, so my main first user account may sudo, how may I make sure the rest of the users can't11:10
dabugasthoreauputic: LOL11:10
carlos-d-man?11:10
velocity_kendalli'm about using a computer not hacking11:10
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, terminal doesnt equal cracking11:10
thoreauputicvelocity_kendall: this isn't hacking - it's reading 10111:10
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kbrooksin fact, in your context, you meant cracking11:10
velocity_kendalli just dont see why people say do terminal command11:10
velocity_kendalli'm used to windows man11:10
dabugascarlos-d-man: honestly, i don't know; i'm not running a multi-user system :)11:11
velocity_kendallcan i not just see my 'sources' in synaptic?11:11
carlos-d-manbtw I have lot'sa RAM, what do you guys recommend I copy to and use out of /ramdisk?11:11
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, well, i have a idea, maybe i can help you through vnc11:11
thoreauputicvelocity_kendall: that's a pity - would you like to learn?11:11
velocity_kendallnot really11:11
lionBGvelocity_kendall, you can11:11
velocity_kendalli want to use the computer for music, internet, etc, not programming11:11
lionBGvelocity_kendall, you can see them11:11
kbrooksvelocity_kendall, see what i said above11:11
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dabugascarlos-d-man: basically, sudo su and write yerself a password. then create a new user and see if you can sudo, juding by the fledling account my bro made on my computer they shouldn't be able to sudo11:12
carlos-d-mandabugas ubuntu is desktop central and I like the idea because I am providing desktop to many remote X users but my RAM question is in regards to speed :)11:12
NoeWonwe must not walk the path of the passwd crackers, so sayith the spider11:12
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dabugasNoeWon: ;)11:12
dabugascarlos-d-man: try out what i told you. i'm too bored to try it out myself, but it should work :)11:13
NoeWonnither shall we take our laptops downtown in search of hot spots because we are better than that we are better than those phisers and phreakers as well. Why? Why you ask? Becasue we are the few, we are the proud. We are the Ubuntu users!11:13
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NoeWonCan I get an AMEN!11:14
lizdeikagee, what can i say. congrats to ubuntu with normal minimize,maximize,exit buttons back :)11:14
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dabugasNoeWon: fuck you man. if you've never tried freaking phreaking then you're a L0s5eR!!!!! the cold wind in your hair as you fumble with the wires, the rush of adrenaline as you get disconnected every 16 seconds... ah, the good ol' days :Ppp11:14
carlos-d-mandabugas heh sure I will thanks; how may I get pppoe running? Im glad I had knoppix to the rescue ftm hehe11:15
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NoeWon??? phearking what ???11:15
NoeWonyou accually do it physically?11:15
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dabugascarlos-d-man: a) you can also get an ubuntu live cd but i haven't tried it b) pppoe? if you're talking about a modem connection try wvdial (for console) and gnome-ppp (for gui) otherwise i've no idea what you are talking about11:16
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NoeWonI didn't think people were still doing that, it's all bout the cell phones now11:16
thoreauputicand the Word of the Sage came unto us, saying, thou shalt not learn the ways of Linux without opening a terminal and reading the wisdom therein...11:16
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NoeWonI'm going to try to get into puff daddys Tmobile11:16
dabugasNoeWon: well i had tried phreaking when i was in highschool or so; that wasn't so long ago and i live in greece. the phone system used to be easily absuseable. not now, anymore11:17
zenroxthoreauputic, aka RTFM11:17
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zenroxhehehehe11:17
NoeWonNaw, I'm playin I was just joking I wouldn't hack any sidekick. lol.j/k11:17
thoreauputicand the people marveled, saying, we had not realised that computers could do as they were told: the Windows help desk told us many falsehoods...11:18
NoeWonSeriouly, whoever hit pairs's sidekick was a bastard11:18
NoeWonand don't do drugs11:18
carlos-d-mandabugas neather, I mean ADSL with roaring penguin's PPP-over-ethernet, in other distros it's rp-pppoe package :)11:18
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dabugascarlos-d-man: i know not of what you seek. go rattle some bones or skin a goat. perhaps the answers will be found there within.11:19
carlos-d-manbtw guys, installation offered to install the remaining language packages that are not included on the installation CD, I said no fearing it would not conclude installation when not being able to connect so, how may I get them?11:19
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carlos-d-mandabugas fyi "el chupacabras" means "the goat licker" hehe11:21
dabugascarlos-d-man: chupacabras?11:21
ikaroor "chupa cabra" which if what I say to my gf.11:22
ikaroif/is11:22
keyhackwhat package provides "system-config-network" ?11:22
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=== dabugas types: apt-cache goat lick sex; apt-get install chupa-cabra
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foltahey everyone. i seem to have lost wireless access11:23
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carlos-d-mandabugas a few years ago the chupacabras made NATIONAL headlines about goats being blood sucked over night, most ignotant morons reported that they believed it must have been a from bat's variation to some sort of alien to blame and the media was just full of it for a few months he11:24
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foltacan anyone diagnose this: i can see the access points in the networking panel but can't connect properly to them?11:24
theinekeyhack: I can't find an executable called system-config-network on my system...11:24
funkycarlos-d-man: chupacabras ?11:24
carlos-d-manyep11:24
carlos-d-manhttp://alltheweb.com/search?cat=img&cs=iso88591&q=chupacabras&rys=0&_sb_lang=pref11:25
dabugasi posed this question earlier: i have my other hard drive (allegedly a windows drive but the c:/windows dir is erased) in fstab & i have access to it from /media/windows but GNOME2 and affiliated programs ignore its existence. any ideas?11:25
funkynice creature11:26
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dabugascarlos-d-man: my man, carlos-d. i've no idea what you're talking about :))11:26
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^thehatsrule^lo11:27
djpanyone know why none of the magnatune links fail to play in rhythmbox? keep getting the message, Could not open vfs file "http://sc1.magnatune.com:8000/" for reading.11:27
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^thehatsrule^have a question... for my pentium2, ubuntu froze.... had to hit the reset button, any ideas?11:27
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carlos-d-mandabugas just a note on your mention of goats hehe; what if you mount somewhere else and access the drive with gnome and friends through that?11:29
thoreauputicdjp: try saving the m3u or pls file to disk and adding it to your rhythmbox from there11:29
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theinedabugas: what do you mean "GNOME2 ignores its existance"?11:30
djpthoreauputic: thanks, will give it a go...11:31
roo_hi all :)11:31
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dabugaswell if i open, say, abiword or gedit i can only access it through filesystem->media->windows... before i updated to hoary i had link right there below CDROM and FLOPPY of my windows drive and it also appeared on my desktop11:32
thoreauputicdjp: warning: magnatune file names have a lot of cruft like %20 in them11:32
thoreauputicdjp: rhythmbox has a problem with those %20 spaces11:33
carlos-d-mananybody have a single non interactive command line to create grup "joe" and user "joe" and YYY pasword?11:33
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funkythere is a way to see apt log ?11:34
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foltanevermind - it just decided to work11:34
foltavery odd indeed11:34
thoreauputicnon-interactive? I don't think so - adduser and useradd etc are interactive11:34
delirecarlos-d-man: addgroup joe ; aduser joe joe11:34
delire>11:34
delirecarlos-d-man that what you're after?11:34
thoreauputicdelire: they require interaction11:35
blueyedHi. I'm having trouble installing the Hoary-RC: grub has been installed to hda, but fails with Error 17.. any ideas?11:35
delirethoreauputic: so does a computer. what does he expect?11:35
thoreauputiccarlos-d-man: you want to script it?11:35
^thehatsrule^have a question... for my pentium2, ubuntu froze.... had to hit the reset button, any ideas?11:35
carlos-d-mandelire no questions because I have to add 1000+ users, let me see... :)11:35
thoreauputicdelire: well, passwords in a script in plain text aren't a good idea I guess :)11:36
djpthoreauputic: yeah, links on magnatune web site working...11:36
carlos-d-manthoreauputic maybe, the list is on excel, there goes security heh11:36
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|QuaD-^thehatsrule^: what froze.... x, kernel, what?11:36
^thehatsrule^the whole thing11:36
^thehatsrule^couldnt do anything... when i was in gnome11:36
^thehatsrule^froze on firefox11:37
|QuaD-^thehatsrule^: first figure out if it was x or kernel or what11:37
^thehatsrule^i couldnt... how could you tell?11:37
^thehatsrule^logs?11:37
delirewrite a shell script to read users from a clear text list, run the addgroup command with that list as input in a loop until done. how you'll handle passwords i don't know11:37
|QuaD-ssh in from a different computer11:37
^thehatsrule^er... i just reset it11:37
^thehatsrule^all the control characters wouldnt work11:37
lionBG^thehatsrule^, how much ram?11:37
^thehatsrule^128mb sdram11:38
|QuaD-^thehatsrule^: it is possible that only X froze11:38
^thehatsrule^hm, so its not because my cpu is old?11:38
|QuaD-next time don't just reset it11:38
delire^thehatsrule^: hit CTRL-ALT-BCKSPCE11:38
|QuaD-^thehatsrule^: it could be11:38
|QuaD-there are 500 million reasons it COULD be11:38
^thehatsrule^delire, i said no control charaters worked11:38
delireright ok11:39
|QuaD-delire: that won't work idon't believe if X is frozen11:39
^thehatsrule^tho, windows 2000 works without freezing...11:39
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|QuaD-^thehatsrule^: so?11:39
^thehatsrule^just odd11:39
keyhackhow do you configure the wireless? (mind you, I  did not install gnome/kde, running xfce)11:39
|QuaD-^thehatsrule^: you first need to figure out the cause of the freeze11:39
^thehatsrule^could it be that i should use an older kernel?11:39
delire|QuaD-: sure it will, that and the sysrq key. either that or pull up a console with ctrl-alt-f1 and kill X as a process11:39
kbrooksHey. What is the package to install Flash?11:39
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|QuaD-delire: i have had X freeze when ctrl-alt-[insert key]  doesn't work11:40
kbrooksHELLO?11:40
|QuaD-^thehatsrule^: we don't know what crashed, so we cna't figure out a solution11:40
delire|QuaD-: sure there are dozens of workarounds.11:40
djpany recommendations as to good agregator feed packages?11:40
^thehatsrule^|QuaD-, any logs?11:40
|QuaD-djp: liferea11:40
|QuaD-^thehatsrule^: i believe they are reset among resetting the comp11:40
|QuaD-djp: you are using gnome right?11:41
^thehatsrule^heh, dang11:41
demism_does anyone get a 40k or less connection to the mirrors?11:41
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djpQuaD-: thanks. are you using it?11:41
delire^thehatsrule^: do you have another machine? ssh into the box and run top to see what's alive11:41
|QuaD-^thehatsrule^: next time don't restart so quickly11:41
|QuaD-djp: yeah11:41
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djp|QuaD-: gnome here, yes11:41
^thehatsrule^bleh11:41
^thehatsrule^i wouldnt even know how to ssh in ;p11:41
^thehatsrule^we11:41
^thehatsrule^will see :)11:41
djp|QuaD-: better than the Sage plugin for firefox, yes?11:42
demism_does anyone get a 40k or less connection to the mirrors, and have a 10mbit connection or dsl?11:42
libbenPlease use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation. /// how do i use synaptics smart upgrade? cant find that options in synapt... its 5 packages that not got updated from the list with 300+ packages.... anyone?11:42
theinekeyhack: try network-admin11:42
|QuaD-djp: i would rather things integrate with gnome, not firefox, personal preference thoguh11:42
thoreauputic^thehatsrule^: ssh IP.of.box  or ssh nameofbox11:42
djp|QuaD-: sure11:43
^thehatsrule^k, could i use telnet if i was on windows?11:43
roo_djp, i use raggle11:43
thoreauputic^thehatsrule^: telnet is evil11:43
|QuaD-thoreauputic: is ssh server installed by default?11:43
delire^thehatsrule^: if you were running a telnet server on the machine, yes11:43
roo_djp, its console based but rocks11:43
^thehatsrule^heh, guess not11:43
^thehatsrule^would have to dl putty :P11:43
roo_|QuaD-, nope.11:43
thoreauputic|QuaD-: good point - no it isn't11:43
delireroo_: hey have you checked out 'snownews'. also a good rss console reader11:43
|QuaD-thoreauputic: :) you can point him to the wiki page11:43
roo_delire, yes :)11:44
delireroo_: ;)11:44
|QuaD-liferea is a gtk client11:44
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matheuscoucou !!!11:44
kbrooksHey. What is the package to install Flash?11:45
kbrooksHELLO?11:45
roo_^ wtf?11:45
delirekbrooks: what's up11:45
|QuaD-hi11:45
thoreauputic^thehatsrule^: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto/view?searchterm=ssh11:45
roo_kbrooks, for mozilla?11:45
matheusyou re english ???11:45
delirekbrooks: apt-cache search libsflash11:45
kbrooksroo_: yes11:45
matheusohhh11:45
delires/libsflash/libflash11:45
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thoreauputic|QuaD-: heh - had to find it first ;)11:46
kbrooksk11:46
kbrooksty11:46
matheusi am a newbie on llinux, and i can t mount a fat32 disk, how can i do ?11:46
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roo_kbrooks, flashplayer-mozilla ?11:46
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libbenroo_,  delire ? u know why i cant get 5 packages from the 316 packages i just downloaded to get installed.... it said that i should try apt-get dist-update and i did... and still same problem11:46
libbenPlease use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation. /// how do i use synaptics smart upgrade? cant find that options in synapt... its 5 packages that not got updated from the list with 300+ packages.... anyone?11:46
|QuaD-thoreauputic: :)11:46
libben^^11:46
roo_matheus, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:47
scottanyone happen to have the ORCA font?11:47
matheusit is in french ?11:47
matheushave you a doc in french ?11:47
roo_matheus, http://world.altavista.com/11:47
roo_matheus, suddenly, the net is in many languages :)11:47
delirematheus: FYI if you 'less /etc/fstab' you'll see the partitions and mountpoints. it's likely your fat32 partition is in there already and you can just 'mount /mountpoint'11:47
roo_libben, hmm. my synaptic has a smart upgrade button? :/11:48
theinelibben: it's under settings -> preferences -> System upgrade11:48
matheusbut it is not in fstab11:48
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roo_libben, press "Mark All Upgrades" > "Smart Upgrade"?11:49
delirematheus: ok then type 'fdisk -l' to see which partition the fat32 partition is and then, 'mount -t vfat /dev/<fat32partition> /<some-mount-point>11:49
^thehatsrule^hm, what would be the ssh command to check what was wrong?11:50
|QuaD-^thehatsrule^: you couldn't do it like that11:50
delirematheus: however if you find out what it is you can make an entry in /etc/fstab (file system table) and then mount it easily, even create a disk shortcut on the desktop11:50
|QuaD-that would give you a shell to your comp11:50
|QuaD-and you could debug the problem from there11:50
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thoreauputicmatheus: sudo gedit /etc/fstab ;  /dev/hda1       /mnt/windws     vfat   noauto,users,exec.umask=000  0  011:51
|QuaD-if your whole system crapped out, you won't get a shell, then you will need to do creative logging techniques11:51
delire^thehatsrule^: ssh you@hung-computer-address && top11:51
^thehatsrule^oh, so i can do any normal linux cmd? cool11:51
|QuaD-delire: top won't tell him whats wrong11:51
matheusthank, but what do "<some-mount-point>" mean ?11:51
|QuaD-/var/logs do11:51
thoreauputicmatheus: vfat might be fat32, not sure11:51
^thehatsrule^hmmm11:52
|QuaD-^thehatsrule^: thats the idea of ssh (secure shell11:52
lunitikthoreauputic: it is11:52
|QuaD-)11:52
delire|QuaD-: it will tell him if it's choking, then he can ps ax and kill the process and or look at /var/log/syslog11:52
thoreauputicK11:52
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matheusdelire,  what do "<some-mount-point>" mean ?11:52
delirematheus: it's any arbitrary mount point that you wish. for instance i could make a directory called 'foo' and then 'mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /home/matheus/foo11:53
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thoreauputicmatheus: you need a directory to "mount" your partition - like /mnt/windows11:53
|QuaD-delire: he is looking for a command that is going to tell him exactly what wrong, and you are giving him the impression that that is "top".... which it won't11:54
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matheusoh yes ok11:54
delire|QuaD-: whatever11:54
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thoreauputic|QuaD-: true, but a degree of diagnosis is possible11:54
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shekhar_hello i have a very simple question about hoary ubuntu11:54
|QuaD-thoreauputic: true11:54
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|QuaD-shekhar_: ask away11:55
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delirematheus: yeah, you can then simply browse to 'foo' in your home directory and all your windows file system will be there11:55
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roo_shekhar_, best just to ask, no-one will ask you what you question is :)11:55
shekhar_how do i add a launcher to the applications menu? the right click, entire menu, but it doesn't give me the option to add11:55
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matheusbut i've already created it, and my partition is hda7, so i have to enter :  mount -t vfat /dev/hda7/backup ???11:56
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cavediverNow this is a strange problem. All of a sudden my resolution is 2080x1024, which makes some applications "disappear" to the right of what my screen displays so to speak.11:56
cavediverHope you understand11:56
|QuaD-shekhar_: right click on the panel, click add to panel, click custom application launcher (or application launcher if you prefer)11:56
cavediverIt looks just like 1280x1024 but i guess it's twice the size horizontally...11:56
delirematheus: no.. try this 'mount -t vfat /dev/hda7 /backup' (if "backup" is in your home directory it would be /home/matheus/backup)11:57
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matheusyes, sorry ... i will try11:57
delirematheus: don't be sorry, it's can be confusing at first ;)11:58
shekhar_|QuaD-:  how do i add to the applications menu? i can add things to the panel11:58
delires/its/it11:58
thoreauputicmatheus: you need a space between directories :)11:58
delirematheus: to make a point, try monting a linux parition under windows ;)11:58
delires/monting/mounting11:58
|QuaD-shekhar_: oh sorry, i don't know the answer to that, maybe someone else knows11:58
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thoreauputicdelire: hah !11:59
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delirethoreauputic: ;)11:59
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roo_delire, are u a ubuntu dev?11:59
alihello :)11:59
roo_hi ali11:59
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delireroo_: no, just a long time Debian fan ;)11:59
shekhar_can anyone tell me how to customise the applications menu in hoary?11:59
shekhar_applications:// also doesn't work in nautilus11:59
langenbergI think I'm going to deploy ubuntu inside a local company. Is there any professional support available?12:00

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