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=== T-Bone wonders whether we have preliminary hppa installer he could test on his brand new hw
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zulhey03:06
crimsunoh man.03:34
crimsuneven newer Nvidia drivers.03:34
crimsun(http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7174.html)03:34
crimsun(and http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-7174.html)03:35
zulfabio isnt going to like that :)03:36
crimsunnope, he sure isn't.03:40
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fabbionemorning07:16
crimsunmorning07:16
fabbionedilinger: ping?08:07
dilingerpong08:07
fabbionedilinger: you should probably get -33 and grab the security fixes08:07
fabbionesorry i had no time to push them to you yesterday08:08
fabbionethey also assigned a CAN for your patch 14308:08
fabbionethe sysfs signess whatever fix08:08
dilingerthanks; already looked at -3308:08
fabbionezul found another 3 race condition fixes08:09
dilingerfor 2.6.11, anyways08:09
fabbionehe posted the bk commits in here08:09
dilingerstill need to deal w/ older kernels08:09
dilingeroh?08:09
fabbionejust a sec.. i will forward the mail08:09
fabbioneon the way08:10
fabbioneone for sure needs to be applied08:10
fabbioneit's Herbert fix to his previous fix08:10
fabbionethey have not been classified as security yet08:11
fabbionepitti is investigating the other 2 i think08:11
dilingerok08:12
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zulmorning02:40
T-Noneugh05:22
T-Bone-33 hppa64 doesn't boot :P05:22
T-BoneUnable to identify CD-ROM format.05:22
T-Bonecramfs: wrong magic05:22
T-BonepiKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!05:22
=== T-Bone reads backlog, notices XFS isn't tried, screams
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lamontwe planning a -34?05:26
T-Bonehey lamont05:26
lamontmorning t-bone05:26
T-Bonelamont: i've been flooding you in pv window ;}05:26
lamontyeah - saw it05:26
lamontget a good kernel05:27
T-Bonethe good thing is that it's getting better05:27
T-Bonethe bad thing is that your archive is corrupted05:27
lamont??05:27
T-Boneyeah, if you look a few lines above, i just tried -33 which doesn't know XFS, seemingly05:27
lamont /boot/config-2.6.10-2-64:# CONFIG_XFS_FS is not set05:28
T-Bonelamont: the Dubious version messages came from your archive05:28
lamontthat'd be correct05:28
T-Bonelamont: that's bad, let's change that for -3405:28
T-Bonelamont: your archive seems to contain packages taken from Debian. Their version numbers are newer than those in Ubuntu05:28
lamont(and yes, it's been disabled since the beginning of time...)05:28
T-Bonethat's especially true for perl, which is incomplete, and thus not installable05:28
T-Bonelamont: please enable it in -34 ;] 05:29
lamont"my archive" == ubuntu-hppa/tree or ubuntu-hppa/lamont?05:29
T-Bone/lamont05:29
T-Bonetree is just fine05:29
T-Boneexcept that it lacks up-to-date python2.4, which makes d-i unbuildable05:29
T-Bonethat's why i'm trying to build python2.4 asap ;}05:30
=== T-Bone larts lamont for bad archive management ;^)
lamontah, yeah.05:30
lamontthat makes sense05:30
zulheh.../me is working on the bk stuff05:30
=== lamont makes a note to move all the stage[12] stuff out of /lamont
lamontT-Bone: I only created that packages file because you wanted it... :))05:31
T-BoneLOL05:31
T-Bonebad bad you :)05:31
T-Bonein any case, i've removed that archive from my sources.list and w-b merge, and i'm building all that's missing05:32
T-Bonexorg updated to -905:32
T-Bonecurrently building gcc05:32
zulhow do you create a new baz archive?05:32
T-Bonelamont: we're getting there. Down to 20% uncompiled05:33
T-Bone;)05:33
lamontzul: bas make-archive -s ...05:33
lamontbaz make-archive --help05:33
zulokie dokie05:33
T-Bonemost of it is kde shit not building because of yet uninstalable kdelibs405:33
zulyou mean kde poopie dont you?05:34
T-Bonei guess so ;)05:34
T-Bonelamont: i have a modified d-i source that i expect to install fine now. Need to build it (that requires python2.4 up-to-date) to confirm :)05:35
lamontT-Bone: xfs as a module, or =y?05:54
T-Bonemodule05:54
lamontand does it create any additional questions?05:55
T-Bone?05:56
lamontnm - I'll go test it05:56
T-Bonelamont: look how it's done in debian or in other archs in ubuntu?05:56
=== T-Bone needs to find a recent enough kernel that'd boot his j6k
T-Bonelamont: btw, xresprobe builds fine now, kudos (as of 0.4.18)05:58
lamont# CONFIG_XFS_RT is not set05:58
lamontCONFIG_XFS_QUOTA=y05:58
lamont# CONFIG_XFS_SECURITY is not set05:58
lamontCONFIG_XFS_POSIX_ACL=y05:58
lamontthat'll be a yes05:58
lamontyeah - daniel included my patch05:58
T-Boneah, you mean "that" kind of questions :)05:59
lamontyeah05:59
T-Bonei thought you were talking about d-i :)05:59
lamontwell, you still won't have XFS for install, since there's no module for it ...  that's a kernel and d-i change06:00
T-Bonecorrect06:00
lamontguess I could have the kernel deliver the udeb 06:00
T-Bonethat'd be nice06:00
T-Bonei mean, let's do it as other archs do. My changes in d-i source were mostly copying what was done for ia6406:01
lamontyeah06:02
=== T-Bone wishes there were a way to tell the kernel build process "I only want that flavour please"...
zulT-Bone: there is but you have to modify the rules file06:04
T-Bonehow big is that change?06:04
zulone line06:04
T-Bonegive it! :)06:04
zulonly if you say please06:04
T-Boneoh dear zul, please hand over your immense knowledge and kernel-build-fu to the poor beggar I am =] 06:05
zulbetter..06:05
T-Bone;}06:05
zulcomment out the flavours line in the rules file and replace it with flavours := hppa06:05
lamontzul: better watch out, or he'll find a tall iron building in new york and invoke you06:05
zulheh06:06
T-BoneLOL06:06
zulback to pope watch 200506:06
zulyay...2.6.12-rc1-bk406:08
T-Bone8GB RAM does *speed* up builds *alot*06:09
zulits all in your head06:10
T-Bonei wonder :)06:10
fabbionehmm07:21
fabbionelamont, T-Bone: i have no issue in adding XFS for hppa in 3407:21
fabbioneand yes there will be a -34 (99.9999%)07:21
fabbionejust be sure that it is propagated properly07:21
zulbecause of me? :)07:21
fabbioneif you care07:21
fabbionezul: yes. DIE!07:22
fabbione:P07:22
T-Bonefabbione: cool07:22
T-Bonefabbione: do you know what's in ide-core-modules ?07:22
fabbionelamont: do you have time to check something for me?07:22
zulhmmm...how do i tell a user that he sucks...taticfully07:22
T-Bonewe do not generate that udeb on hppa07:22
lamontfabbione: sure07:22
fabbioneT-Bone: you can check it yourself. install kernel-wedge and check07:22
lamontbtw, mind if we dink around with what modules get built on hppa for -34?07:22
fabbionelamont: can you try to test build kdebindings (last version) and see how much memory it sucks?07:23
fabbionelamont: as i said about it is fine with me07:23
T-Bonedrivers/ide/ide-core.o07:23
lamontzul: you either have to refine the meaning of 'sucks' to something objective, or accept the fact that he won't take it peacefully07:23
T-Bonesomething tells me we want that on hppa07:23
fabbionejust prebuild it to see if everything goes at it should07:23
lamontfabbione: cool07:23
fabbionelamont: if you can run that build it would be really appreciated. here on sparc is sucking almost 1.2GB for one file07:23
zullamont: #842607:23
fabbione g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I/build/sparcbuildd/kdebindings-3.4.0/./smoke/kde -I../.. -I/build/sparcbuildd/kdebindings-3.4.0/./smoke/kde/.. -I/usr/include/kde -I/usr/share/qt3/include -I. -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -g -Wall -O2 -Wformat-s07:24
fabbionethis one specifically07:24
fabbionelamont: i am afraid of some memory leak somewhere, but the point is that it might pass our buildd, but not normal machines07:25
lamonti386 took 600+MB and 37 minutes07:25
T-Bonelamont: how shall i kill you?07:25
fabbionei am talkign about RAM07:25
T-BoneWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!07:25
T-Bone  cdebconf-udeb archdetect anna casper-check cdebconf-priority07:25
T-Bone...07:25
fabbioneit's up to 1.3GB now07:25
lamontfabbione: right07:25
T-BoneE: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes07:25
=== T-Bone hates that signed shit
lamontT-Bone: add the key07:25
lamontand it's mvo/mdz you want to kill for it07:25
T-Bonelamont: how/where?07:25
lamontfabbione: right07:26
T-Bonelamont: my archive isn't signed07:26
T-Bonethat's not the problem of the key07:26
lamontT-Bone: ah, well sign it07:26
fabbionelamont: no rush, but i am just curios to understand wtf it is doing07:26
T-Boneit just can't cope with unsigned archive07:26
T-Bonelamont: how?07:26
lamontcreate a Release file, gpg --detach-sig Release; mv Release.sig Release.gpg07:26
fabbioneT-Bone: or use the workaround:07:27
lamontand make sure that the key you used is in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg in the chroot07:27
fabbionecat chroot-hoary/etc/apt/apt.conf07:27
fabbioneAPT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated "1";07:27
lamontor do that07:27
T-Bonefabbione: ah! THANKS!07:27
T-Bone;}07:27
lamontin /etc/apt/apt.conf07:27
T-Bonelamont: i'm 90% certain we need to produce ide-core-modules udeb btw07:27
lamontfabbione: I don't have kdebindings in my local mirror... and probably not the build-deps either07:27
lamontT-Bone: we do generate the modules, at least... :0)07:28
fabbionelamont: perhaps you can run it at the DC?07:28
lamontfabbione: yeah - I'll do a build on concordia or some such07:28
T-Bonelamont: heh :)07:28
fabbionelamont: danke07:28
T-Bonelamont: you see, in the ongoing port war, it is not acceptable that fabbione has d-i ready on sparc and we don't have it on hppa ;] 07:29
fabbioneT-Bone: you will never have it for hoary anyway :)07:29
=== fabbione rocks
T-Bonefabbione: lol07:30
T-Bonefabbione: hoary releases next week?07:30
fabbionesparc > hppa07:30
kylemfabbione, them's fighting words.07:30
T-Bonefabbione: not in number of built packages :)07:30
fabbioneT-Bone: how many buildds do you have? and with how many cpu's + gb of ram?07:30
T-Bonefabbione: i expect to have the installer ready by tomorrow, given a proper kernel07:30
lamontT-Bone: we had a booting miniiso before he did07:31
T-Bonefabbione: *LOADS* ;] 07:31
T-Bonelamont: hehe cool! hppa > sparc ;)07:31
lamontmind you, you couldn't do anything with it.07:31
fabbioneT-Bone: than divide the num of your packages by (num of buildd * num cpu * Gb of RAM)07:31
T-Bonelol07:31
fabbioneT-Bone: and i will do the same07:31
lamontfabbione: I think we fixed xresprobe for you with 0.4.18 as well07:31
fabbionethe one with the higher num, wins07:31
T-Bonefabbione: i don't do maths :}07:31
lamontor was sparc already in the makefile the wrong (old) way?07:31
T-BoneFailed to fetch http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/ubuntu-hppa/tree/pool/main/c/console-data/console-keymaps-usb_2002.12.04dbs-48ubuntu5_all.udeb  404 Not Found07:32
fabbionelamont: nope.. i did fix xresprobe for hppa07:32
=== T-Bone curses lamont
fabbionelamont: and i did give you a kernel :)07:32
lamontwhen did you fix xresprobe for hppa?07:32
lamontbecause it hasn't built until 0.4.18, when daniels took my patch07:32
fabbionelamont: i fixed xresprobe for hppa the same time i uploaded the fix for sparc07:32
lamontftbfs07:32
fabbioneusing the dummy_thing.x07:32
fabbionewell, you never told me07:33
=== fabbione doesn't have a crystal ball yet
fabbione:)07:33
fabbioneah no07:33
fabbionexresprobe (0.4.12) hoary; urgency=low07:33
fabbione  * Fix ia64 and sparc port.07:33
fabbione -- Fabio M. Di Nitto <fabbione@fabbione.net>  Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:46:23 +010007:33
lamontthat's because it's been ftbfs all along, and I'd sent daniels the patch to just make it use dummy _EVERYWHERE_ that it didn't use one of the other two, instead of hardcoding each *()^*_& architecture one at a time07:33
fabbionei fixed ia6407:33
T-Bonelamont: missing udebs are casper-check, di-utils, di-utils-reboot, di-utils-terminfo, hotplug-udeb, kickseed-common, localechooser, console-keymaps-at, console-keymaps-usb and initrd-kickseed07:33
lamontfabbione: ah, and I fixed everything else, and removed your ia64/sparc fix by subsuming it.07:34
fabbionelamont: my bad.. it was ia6407:34
lamontfabbione: heh07:34
fabbionelamont: right07:34
T-Bonelamont: can you fix that in an easy way or should i build something?07:34
fabbionewell mdz is not around07:34
fabbionei am going to help my wife to cook dinner07:34
=== T-Bone begs lamont
fabbionelater guys07:35
T-Bonefabbione: cya07:35
zultoodles07:35
T-Bonelinux-source-2.6.11_2.6.11-0.2: currently building07:36
T-BoneARG!07:36
lamontT-Bone: bide07:36
T-Bonelamont: yeah sorry :}07:36
T-Bonelamont: so, what should I do?07:37
lamontT-Bone: those are all newer than what I have in my archive...07:37
lamontyou may just need to build them07:38
lamontfor quick-turn that is07:38
T-Bonewhat package builds them?07:38
lamontT-Bone: casper, debian-installer-utils, hotplug, kickseed, console-data07:41
T-Bonelamont: it's strange. The only package != universe I have left to be built are:07:41
T-Bonedevel/debian-installer_20041227ubuntu23 [extra:uncompiled] 07:42
T-Bonedebian-installer/kbd-chooser_1.09ubuntu16 [-:uncompiled] 07:42
T-Bonemisc/archive-copier_0.1.3 [-:uncompiled] 07:42
T-Boneunknown/palo-installer_0.0.6 [-:uncompiled] 07:42
T-Bonewhich means that they are supposedly up to date in your archive...07:42
lamontit's possible that udebs aren't current in my archive..07:42
T-Bonegah07:43
T-Bonei hate you :P07:43
lamontthe target was 'debootstrapable' at the time, if you recall07:43
T-Bonelamont: problem is i don't have your changes to console-data to get it build07:43
lamontsec07:43
T-Bonenot to mention that telling w-b to force rebuild those packages isn't gonna be cool07:44
T-Boneunless there is a magic command?07:44
=== lamont pushes things around a bit
T-Boneah! Thanks you sooooooo much ;}07:45
lamontw-b --forget, w-b --take, echo "foo_ver hoary" > build/REDO07:45
lamontfor each foo_ver07:45
T-Boneyumm07:45
lamontand finish that before the next time you run merge-quinn07:46
T-Bonemore yumm07:46
lamontbaz register-archive http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/Archives/lamont@ubuntu.com--hppa-200507:46
lamontis mirroring there now07:46
lamontlamont@ubuntu.com--hppa-2005/console-data--hppa--2002.12.0407:46
lamontis the current console-data07:46
T-Bonebaz get that I suppose?07:47
lamonton the bright side, once hoary releases, we won't have to keep merging the patch forward.07:47
lamontyeah07:47
lamontalthough it's not popultaed yet07:48
T-BoneNo such package (console-data--hppa)07:48
T-Boneheh :P07:48
=== lamont types his passphrase a few hundred times
=== T-Bone parses quinn-diff to figure out the version numbers of corresponding packages
T-Bonei must really be damn willing to get that thing to work, cause it's kinda boring ;] 07:49
lamontheh07:49
lamontyou sound like my 9 year old. :-)07:49
T-Bonelol07:49
T-Bonei hate you soooooo much :}07:49
lamont"but it's _BOORIIINNNNGGGG"07:49
T-Bonethat's the idea, yeah :)07:50
zulT-Bone: do you want a lolly?07:50
=== T-Bone ponders building missing udebs out of the buildds using his local sbuild
lamontthe only lolly I know is married07:50
T-Bonezul: you, i kill you, you!07:50
lamontT-Bone: that would be simplest07:50
=== lamont starts an rsync of his local mirror up to p.u.c
T-Bonelamont: definitely. Just need to find versions07:51
=== T-Bone greps and greps more
T-Bonehmm07:53
T-Bonei knew this wasn't that easy07:53
T-Bone /usr/bin/fakeroot debian/rules binary-arch07:53
T-Bonemake: Nothing to be done for `binary-arch'.07:53
T-Bone dpkg-genchanges -B -mUbuntu hppa unofficial buildd <buildd@buildd.slashdirt.org>07:53
T-Bonedpkg-genchanges: arch-specific upload - not including arch-independent packages07:53
T-Bonedpkg-genchanges: failure: cannot read files list file: No such file or directory07:53
T-Bonelamont: that's casper07:53
lamontew07:54
T-Boneyeah, that's what I said too :P07:55
T-Boneisn't casper "all"?07:55
T-BoneArchitecture: all07:55
=== T-Bone giggles
T-Bonesame goes for hotplug07:56
T-Boneand kickseed07:56
lamontwell, in that case, add that horrible hack to pull them from the real archive07:57
T-Bonei'm left with console data, and another tweak to sources.list.udeb.local to add something that will make it get all udebs07:57
T-Bonedeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dists/hoary/main/debian-installer/binary-i386 ?07:58
lamontconsole-data source and debs in ubuntu-hppa/lamont if you want to go that route07:58
T-Bonemuch easier07:59
T-Bonelamont: 40308:00
lamontgrumble08:01
T-Bonei guess so :)08:01
lamontfixed08:01
T-Bonethx08:01
lamontbtw, baz mirror of console-data done, working through ubuntu-meta now08:03
T-Boneok08:03
T-Bonebuilding console data08:03
lamontudebs were there too, you know...08:04
T-Boneyeah, but i can ;}08:04
T-Bonei don't trust that archive no more, you see... =] 08:04
lamontmind you, it could be completely wrong, since it just clones the i386/ppc/whatever keymaps into hppa...08:04
T-Bonehuhuhu08:05
T-Bonegonna be fun08:05
lamontfunny part is that those debs you found aren't in changes files anywhere...08:05
lamontwhich is just plain wierd08:05
T-Bonefor my current usage i don't need it anyway (serial console), but we'll have to look at that08:05
lamontyeah08:05
T-Bonemy top priority is getting a netbootable installer image sufficient to net install machine using serial console, for next friday08:06
T-Boneonce I have that, it'll be time to look at something more suitable :)08:06
lamontthat's 99% of the way there, of course...08:07
T-Boneindeed08:07
T-Boneconsole-data successfully built08:09
=== T-Bone tries again to build d-i
T-BoneE: Malformed line 3 in source list /build/varenet/debian-installer-20041227ubuntu24/build/sources.list.udeb.local (dist parse)08:17
T-Boneshit08:17
T-Boneit doesn't like the hack08:17
T-Bonelamont: can you move the all.udebs in place or can you tell me how to do that?08:17
lamontfetch the packages.gz file from the right place, and lots of wgets08:19
T-Bonesigh08:19
lamontor edit the local sources list like it says08:20
T-Bonethat's what i did08:20
T-Boneand it didn't like it08:20
T-Bonecat sources.list.udeb.local08:20
T-Bonedeb http://archive.slashdirt.org/udebs ./08:20
T-Bonedeb http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/ubuntu-hppa/tree hoary main/debian-installer08:20
T-Bonedeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dists/hoary/main/debian-installer/binary-i38608:20
lamontsigh.08:21
T-Boneindeed :P08:21
lamontyeah - just grab the binary-i368/Packages.gz, grep for _all.udeb, and wget those lines08:21
lamontthen apt-ftparchive that tree08:21
T-Bonewill do08:21
lamontbaz mirror complete08:23
=== T-Bone attempts again to build d-i
T-Bonelamont: btw, i'm quite worried at how gcc-3.4 build failed...08:27
T-Boneyay, all udebs were downloaded fine08:29
=== T-Bone wanders away for a short while (dinner time)
zulmeh..09:00
T-Boneyatta, d-i built successfully09:10
zulyatta? is that french french ;)09:10
T-Boneiieh09:11
T-Bonesole wa nihongo dessu ;] 09:11
=== T-Bone tries to figure zul's face, laughs ;]
zulmama toifea kusotare09:13
T-Bonelol09:14
T-BoneFreeing unused kernel memory: 316k freed09:15
T-BoneSetting up filesystem, pattempt to access beyond end of device09:15
T-Bonelram0: rw=0, want=16520, limit=1638409:15
T-BoneeaKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!09:15
T-Bones e wait ...09:15
T-BoneCan't find /proc in /etc/fstab09:15
zulhah hah09:16
=== T-Bone looks at lamont, points at known problem, looks for a fix in d-i source
=== T-Bone larts zul ;]
zulits called karma09:16
=== T-Bone notes he wants 64bit kernel, given the amount of RAM
lamontT-Bone: huh?09:20
lamontT-Bone: sore wa nihongo desu09:21
T-Bonelamont: our initrd is too big09:21
lamonthrm.. fix that09:21
T-Bonehow?09:21
lamontoh, there's the ramdisk thing09:21
lamontsee what ia64 does for default args09:21
lamontboot with ramdisk=<number of KB>iirc09:22
lamontor ramdisk_size09:22
lamontor some such09:22
T-Bonethat's what i'm trying09:22
T-Boneand it doesn't work09:22
lamontbtw, u-h/lamont cleaned up to just have current versions of stuff in it09:22
T-Boneusing ramdisk_size=16800 hangs the boot09:23
T-Boneisn't palo limited in the amount of memory it can use for loading kernel/initrd?09:23
=== lamont would be asking Kamion about that, if it weren't 1 week before release
lamontcould be09:23
T-BoneSNAFU09:23
lamontnah, normally it works...09:25
lamontyou could look at what debian/hppa does09:25
T-Bonedebian/hppa has a much smaller initrd09:26
T-Bonekylem's last post about that was explicit09:26
lamontso what don't they include that we are?09:26
T-Bonepdc_iodc_bootin() died during seekread09:26
T-Boneit's not dead!09:26
T-Boneit just prompted me that09:26
T-Bonelamont: any clue what that means?09:27
T-Bonei suspect palo limitation wrt size of initial boot material09:28
=== T-Bone wonders what's on the ramdisk
T-Bone14M     build/udebs/09:29
T-Bonelamont: where should i look at, supposing i want to remove a bunch of stuff from the initrd?09:42
=== lamont shrugs
=== T-Bone hates initrds
T-Bone 12M Mar  7 00:46 debian-di.img09:44
kylemi concur.09:44
T-Bone 13M Apr  2 21:13 ubuntu-di.img09:44
=== T-Bone wonders
kylemi hate cd images.09:44
=== T-Bone removes ide support, hopes that'll makes things a bit better
T-Bonelet's remove usb as well09:47
=== T-Bone contemplates removing cdrom support, all in all
=== T-Bone wonders how the ia64 installer works, given what he sees in the source tree, wonders if said installer *still* works
lamontlessee... 112MB at 1KB/sec... that's gonna take a while09:52
T-Bonelamont: if i'm still able to do maths, if you're shapped at 56kbps, you should be able to do 7kBps (say round it at 5) :)09:53
lamontyeah - but there's another rsync, and this is unshaped (since I don't shape ssh)09:54
T-Bonetssks ;)09:54
lamontnah - interactive perfomance is needful, dammit09:54
=== T-Bone votes for seemingly broken ia64 installer, adds random bits
=== lamont test-builds -34 on hppa
lamontwell, the config changes in -3409:56
T-Bonelamont: i think there's a bunch of config options missing09:57
T-Boneand another bunch of d-i udebs missing09:57
zulpope is dead10:00
lamontzul: you mean the machine, or that pagan leader/10:02
lamont?10:02
T-Bonethe machine?10:04
lamontis a common name for computers10:05
=== lamont rather expected more response to the other option... :))
T-Bonelol10:06
lamont"and no, bears aren't catholic"10:07
=== T-Bone wonders what lamont is talking about :}
lamontmixing around american rhetorical questions10:08
T-Boneoh10:08
zulas in the dude10:08
T-Bonei'm completely airtight to these ;}10:09
T-Bonezul: ah yes!10:09
T-Bonenow i remember10:09
=== T-Bone makes note to watch The Big Lebowski again soon
lamontzul: bummer10:11
zulyep10:12
lamontyou catholic then?10:15
lamontSetting up tetex-extra (2.0.2c-3) ...10:16
lamontdpkg: error processing tetex-extra (--configure):10:16
lamont subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Illegal instruction)10:16
lamontS10:16
lamontwoot10:16
zullamont: for the past 2 years yep10:18
=== lamont makes a note to curb his rude sense of humor
lamonts/rude/black/10:18
zullamont: heh...i appreciated rude sense of humor10:19
lamontheh10:19
=== lamont is around dead/hurt people way too much, you see.
zulim not dead...im catholic ;)10:27
zulbut i know what you mean10:27
=== T-Bone clobbers d-i to death, while at it
=== lamont hands t-bone an urban broadsword^W^Wbaseball bat
T-Bonehehehehe10:30
T-Bonevery handy ;] 10:30
=== T-Bone grumbles
zulwhee...bk rocks...not10:31
T-Bonethough i removed a whole bunch of stuff, the .img is exactly the same size as before10:31
T-Bonezul: no big news ;] 10:31
T-Bonehmm10:34
T-Boneand the overflow is exactly as much10:34
T-BoneRAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 010:34
T-BoneRAMDISK: incomplete write (-28 != 32768) 838860810:34
T-BoneVFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.10:34
T-BoneFreeing unused kernel memory: 316k freed10:34
T-BoneSetting up filesystem, pattempt to access beyond end of device10:34
T-Bonelram0: rw=0, want=16520, limit=1638410:34
T-Bone'-28' heh10:35
=== T-Bone wonders whether the problem is elsewhere
T-Bonekylem: seen that kind of issues already?10:35
=== lamont takes daughter to the gym and probably a movie or something. back later
T-Bonelamont: 10:36
T-Bonelast question before you leave (if possible)10:36
lamontsi?10:36
kylemT-Bone, yes, that was reported on the d-hppa mailing list a little while ago.10:36
T-Bonelamont: where do you tell d-i to look for an archive? (since we don't prompt that question at install time, iirc)10:37
T-Bonekylem: sigh10:37
=== T-Bone guesses he needs Kamion-fu
kylemT-Bone, it means your initrd doesn't fit in 16384, bump it up some more :(10:37
lamontI believe that it reads /etc/apt/sources.list (and munges it...)10:37
lamontthat is, the copy in the chroot wins10:37
T-Bonekylem: i tried, and when i do that the box doesn't boot10:37
kylemmaybe it needs to be a multiple of some power?10:38
T-Bonelamont: hmm ok10:38
T-Bonekylem: i tried 3276810:38
kylemhmm.10:39
=== T-Bone contemplates the other installation option: install debian on one disk, debootstrap ubuntu on the other, reboot...
T-Boneyet, that doesn't fix that fucking rd issue10:39
lamontT-Bone: uh, figure out what all is in the ramdisk, and how much has to go... figure out from there what to jetison?10:40
lamontor shrink.10:40
kylemi'm starting to get very apathetic to this whole thing.10:40
T-Bonelamont: if only i understood what goes in the ramdisk10:40
lamontkylem: which whole thing?10:40
kylemd-i10:40
lamontT-Bone: would be a research project for me too.10:40
T-Bonekylem: you're not alone10:40
lamontkylem: there is something to be said for just untaring a base image onto the disk...10:40
kylemlamont, as long as netboot works, i'm pretty unconcerned with the rest.10:41
T-Bonelamont: i dunno for kyle, but that kind of undocumented blackhole shit pisses me off *immensely*10:41
kylemT-Bone, yes, that's exactly it.10:41
T-Bonekylem: heh, you see, you're not alone :}10:41
lamontundocumented blackhole?10:41
kylemi want to fix something tiny, without spending 30 hours figuring out how everything fits together.10:41
T-Bonelamont: buildd/d-i/dak and all the like10:41
kylembecause i don't have 30 hours to invest in it, in fact, i rarely have more than 1.10:41
T-Bonethat's exactly as kylem said10:41
lamontah, yes.... Networking truth #5.10:42
T-Bonelamont: i'm getting more and more tired to hear "find it out by yourself"10:42
T-Bonelamont: that's exactly why i left ia64: i don't like ia64, so i wouldn't fight for it10:42
lamontT-Bone: heh.  at the same time, you're covering ground I haven't trodden on yet...10:42
T-Bonelamont: i'm fighting for hppa, yet, it's not fun10:42
lamontanyway, really must run for a while10:43
T-Bonelamont: sure, but it would be so much easier if the guys who wrote that shit wrote some doc to go along10:43
lamonttest build of -34 kernel (with ext3 perf, and your xfs modules), running10:43
T-Boneand i mean *efficient* doc, not "do this this and that to do that"10:43
T-Bonebecause currently i'm not trying to do "that". I'm trying to understand how it works to bend it to my needs. That's what FOSS is about, if i'm right...10:43
T-Bonelamont: cool thx10:43
zulkylem: pinteric's platform lot of ranting little nothing10:45
=== T-Bone remembers he hasn't chosen a DPL yet
kylemzul, heheh.10:45
T-Boneunsurprisingly, gcc-4.0 failed to build because of libtool mess. Sigh.10:48
kylem:(10:49
T-Bonei can't count the number of packages that failed to build because of libtool mess. I'm so glad I never used libtool in my life :P10:50
kylemconsider yourself fortunate.10:51
T-Boneheh10:51
=== T-Bone notices he spent yet another saturday doing nothing but ubuntu stuff, loathes
zulwelcome to my world...hope you stay a while11:18
zulits uh...snowing in april11:32
kylem:)11:35
calcCONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK=y11:47
calcthat doesn't do what i think it does?11:47
calcanyone awake?11:51
calcconfig IDEDMA_ONLYDISK12:00
calc        bool "Enable DMA only for disks "12:00
calc        depends on IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO12:00
calc        help12:00
calc          This is used if you know your ATAPI Devices are going to fail DMA12:00
calc          Transfers.12:00
calc          Generally say N here.12:00
calcerm ISN'T THAT VERY BAD?12:00
calcmeans no optical drives will have DMA enabled, etc12:00
calcseems to have been enabled in 2.6.8.1-17 (2 Nov 2004)12:01

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