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zul | hey | 03:06 |
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crimsun | oh man. | 03:34 |
crimsun | even newer Nvidia drivers. | 03:34 |
crimsun | (http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7174.html) | 03:34 |
crimsun | (and http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-7174.html) | 03:35 |
zul | fabio isnt going to like that :) | 03:36 |
crimsun | nope, he sure isn't. | 03:40 |
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fabbione | morning | 07:16 |
crimsun | morning | 07:16 |
fabbione | dilinger: ping? | 08:07 |
dilinger | pong | 08:07 |
fabbione | dilinger: you should probably get -33 and grab the security fixes | 08:07 |
fabbione | sorry i had no time to push them to you yesterday | 08:08 |
fabbione | they also assigned a CAN for your patch 143 | 08:08 |
fabbione | the sysfs signess whatever fix | 08:08 |
dilinger | thanks; already looked at -33 | 08:08 |
fabbione | zul found another 3 race condition fixes | 08:09 |
dilinger | for 2.6.11, anyways | 08:09 |
fabbione | he posted the bk commits in here | 08:09 |
dilinger | still need to deal w/ older kernels | 08:09 |
dilinger | oh? | 08:09 |
fabbione | just a sec.. i will forward the mail | 08:09 |
fabbione | on the way | 08:10 |
fabbione | one for sure needs to be applied | 08:10 |
fabbione | it's Herbert fix to his previous fix | 08:10 |
fabbione | they have not been classified as security yet | 08:11 |
fabbione | pitti is investigating the other 2 i think | 08:11 |
dilinger | ok | 08:12 |
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zul | morning | 02:40 |
T-None | ugh | 05:22 |
T-Bone | -33 hppa64 doesn't boot :P | 05:22 |
T-Bone | Unable to identify CD-ROM format. | 05:22 |
T-Bone | cramfs: wrong magic | 05:22 |
T-Bone | piKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! | 05:22 |
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lamont | we planning a -34? | 05:26 |
T-Bone | hey lamont | 05:26 |
lamont | morning t-bone | 05:26 |
T-Bone | lamont: i've been flooding you in pv window ;} | 05:26 |
lamont | yeah - saw it | 05:26 |
lamont | get a good kernel | 05:27 |
T-Bone | the good thing is that it's getting better | 05:27 |
T-Bone | the bad thing is that your archive is corrupted | 05:27 |
lamont | ?? | 05:27 |
T-Bone | yeah, if you look a few lines above, i just tried -33 which doesn't know XFS, seemingly | 05:27 |
lamont | /boot/config-2.6.10-2-64:# CONFIG_XFS_FS is not set | 05:28 |
T-Bone | lamont: the Dubious version messages came from your archive | 05:28 |
lamont | that'd be correct | 05:28 |
T-Bone | lamont: that's bad, let's change that for -34 | 05:28 |
T-Bone | lamont: your archive seems to contain packages taken from Debian. Their version numbers are newer than those in Ubuntu | 05:28 |
lamont | (and yes, it's been disabled since the beginning of time...) | 05:28 |
T-Bone | that's especially true for perl, which is incomplete, and thus not installable | 05:28 |
T-Bone | lamont: please enable it in -34 ;] | 05:29 |
lamont | "my archive" == ubuntu-hppa/tree or ubuntu-hppa/lamont? | 05:29 |
T-Bone | /lamont | 05:29 |
T-Bone | tree is just fine | 05:29 |
T-Bone | except that it lacks up-to-date python2.4, which makes d-i unbuildable | 05:29 |
T-Bone | that's why i'm trying to build python2.4 asap ;} | 05:30 |
=== T-Bone larts lamont for bad archive management ;^) | ||
lamont | ah, yeah. | 05:30 |
lamont | that makes sense | 05:30 |
zul | heh.../me is working on the bk stuff | 05:30 |
=== lamont makes a note to move all the stage[12] stuff out of /lamont | ||
lamont | T-Bone: I only created that packages file because you wanted it... :)) | 05:31 |
T-Bone | LOL | 05:31 |
T-Bone | bad bad you :) | 05:31 |
T-Bone | in any case, i've removed that archive from my sources.list and w-b merge, and i'm building all that's missing | 05:32 |
T-Bone | xorg updated to -9 | 05:32 |
T-Bone | currently building gcc | 05:32 |
zul | how do you create a new baz archive? | 05:32 |
T-Bone | lamont: we're getting there. Down to 20% uncompiled | 05:33 |
T-Bone | ;) | 05:33 |
lamont | zul: bas make-archive -s ... | 05:33 |
lamont | baz make-archive --help | 05:33 |
zul | okie dokie | 05:33 |
T-Bone | most of it is kde shit not building because of yet uninstalable kdelibs4 | 05:33 |
zul | you mean kde poopie dont you? | 05:34 |
T-Bone | i guess so ;) | 05:34 |
T-Bone | lamont: i have a modified d-i source that i expect to install fine now. Need to build it (that requires python2.4 up-to-date) to confirm :) | 05:35 |
lamont | T-Bone: xfs as a module, or =y? | 05:54 |
T-Bone | module | 05:54 |
lamont | and does it create any additional questions? | 05:55 |
T-Bone | ? | 05:56 |
lamont | nm - I'll go test it | 05:56 |
T-Bone | lamont: look how it's done in debian or in other archs in ubuntu? | 05:56 |
=== T-Bone needs to find a recent enough kernel that'd boot his j6k | ||
T-Bone | lamont: btw, xresprobe builds fine now, kudos (as of 0.4.18) | 05:58 |
lamont | # CONFIG_XFS_RT is not set | 05:58 |
lamont | CONFIG_XFS_QUOTA=y | 05:58 |
lamont | # CONFIG_XFS_SECURITY is not set | 05:58 |
lamont | CONFIG_XFS_POSIX_ACL=y | 05:58 |
lamont | that'll be a yes | 05:58 |
lamont | yeah - daniel included my patch | 05:58 |
T-Bone | ah, you mean "that" kind of questions :) | 05:59 |
lamont | yeah | 05:59 |
T-Bone | i thought you were talking about d-i :) | 05:59 |
lamont | well, you still won't have XFS for install, since there's no module for it ... that's a kernel and d-i change | 06:00 |
T-Bone | correct | 06:00 |
lamont | guess I could have the kernel deliver the udeb | 06:00 |
T-Bone | that'd be nice | 06:00 |
T-Bone | i mean, let's do it as other archs do. My changes in d-i source were mostly copying what was done for ia64 | 06:01 |
lamont | yeah | 06:02 |
=== T-Bone wishes there were a way to tell the kernel build process "I only want that flavour please"... | ||
zul | T-Bone: there is but you have to modify the rules file | 06:04 |
T-Bone | how big is that change? | 06:04 |
zul | one line | 06:04 |
T-Bone | give it! :) | 06:04 |
zul | only if you say please | 06:04 |
T-Bone | oh dear zul, please hand over your immense knowledge and kernel-build-fu to the poor beggar I am =] | 06:05 |
zul | better.. | 06:05 |
T-Bone | ;} | 06:05 |
zul | comment out the flavours line in the rules file and replace it with flavours := hppa | 06:05 |
lamont | zul: better watch out, or he'll find a tall iron building in new york and invoke you | 06:05 |
zul | heh | 06:06 |
T-Bone | LOL | 06:06 |
zul | back to pope watch 2005 | 06:06 |
zul | yay...2.6.12-rc1-bk4 | 06:08 |
T-Bone | 8GB RAM does *speed* up builds *alot* | 06:09 |
zul | its all in your head | 06:10 |
T-Bone | i wonder :) | 06:10 |
fabbione | hmm | 07:21 |
fabbione | lamont, T-Bone: i have no issue in adding XFS for hppa in 34 | 07:21 |
fabbione | and yes there will be a -34 (99.9999%) | 07:21 |
fabbione | just be sure that it is propagated properly | 07:21 |
zul | because of me? :) | 07:21 |
fabbione | if you care | 07:21 |
fabbione | zul: yes. DIE! | 07:22 |
fabbione | :P | 07:22 |
T-Bone | fabbione: cool | 07:22 |
T-Bone | fabbione: do you know what's in ide-core-modules ? | 07:22 |
fabbione | lamont: do you have time to check something for me? | 07:22 |
zul | hmmm...how do i tell a user that he sucks...taticfully | 07:22 |
T-Bone | we do not generate that udeb on hppa | 07:22 |
lamont | fabbione: sure | 07:22 |
fabbione | T-Bone: you can check it yourself. install kernel-wedge and check | 07:22 |
lamont | btw, mind if we dink around with what modules get built on hppa for -34? | 07:22 |
fabbione | lamont: can you try to test build kdebindings (last version) and see how much memory it sucks? | 07:23 |
fabbione | lamont: as i said about it is fine with me | 07:23 |
T-Bone | drivers/ide/ide-core.o | 07:23 |
lamont | zul: you either have to refine the meaning of 'sucks' to something objective, or accept the fact that he won't take it peacefully | 07:23 |
T-Bone | something tells me we want that on hppa | 07:23 |
fabbione | just prebuild it to see if everything goes at it should | 07:23 |
lamont | fabbione: cool | 07:23 |
fabbione | lamont: if you can run that build it would be really appreciated. here on sparc is sucking almost 1.2GB for one file | 07:23 |
zul | lamont: #8426 | 07:23 |
fabbione | g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I/build/sparcbuildd/kdebindings-3.4.0/./smoke/kde -I../.. -I/build/sparcbuildd/kdebindings-3.4.0/./smoke/kde/.. -I/usr/include/kde -I/usr/share/qt3/include -I. -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -g -Wall -O2 -Wformat-s | 07:24 |
fabbione | this one specifically | 07:24 |
fabbione | lamont: i am afraid of some memory leak somewhere, but the point is that it might pass our buildd, but not normal machines | 07:25 |
lamont | i386 took 600+MB and 37 minutes | 07:25 |
T-Bone | lamont: how shall i kill you? | 07:25 |
fabbione | i am talkign about RAM | 07:25 |
T-Bone | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! | 07:25 |
T-Bone | cdebconf-udeb archdetect anna casper-check cdebconf-priority | 07:25 |
T-Bone | ... | 07:25 |
fabbione | it's up to 1.3GB now | 07:25 |
lamont | fabbione: right | 07:25 |
T-Bone | E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes | 07:25 |
=== T-Bone hates that signed shit | ||
lamont | T-Bone: add the key | 07:25 |
lamont | and it's mvo/mdz you want to kill for it | 07:25 |
T-Bone | lamont: how/where? | 07:25 |
lamont | fabbione: right | 07:26 |
T-Bone | lamont: my archive isn't signed | 07:26 |
T-Bone | that's not the problem of the key | 07:26 |
lamont | T-Bone: ah, well sign it | 07:26 |
fabbione | lamont: no rush, but i am just curios to understand wtf it is doing | 07:26 |
T-Bone | it just can't cope with unsigned archive | 07:26 |
T-Bone | lamont: how? | 07:26 |
lamont | create a Release file, gpg --detach-sig Release; mv Release.sig Release.gpg | 07:26 |
fabbione | T-Bone: or use the workaround: | 07:27 |
lamont | and make sure that the key you used is in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg in the chroot | 07:27 |
fabbione | cat chroot-hoary/etc/apt/apt.conf | 07:27 |
fabbione | APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated "1"; | 07:27 |
lamont | or do that | 07:27 |
T-Bone | fabbione: ah! THANKS! | 07:27 |
T-Bone | ;} | 07:27 |
lamont | in /etc/apt/apt.conf | 07:27 |
T-Bone | lamont: i'm 90% certain we need to produce ide-core-modules udeb btw | 07:27 |
lamont | fabbione: I don't have kdebindings in my local mirror... and probably not the build-deps either | 07:27 |
lamont | T-Bone: we do generate the modules, at least... :0) | 07:28 |
fabbione | lamont: perhaps you can run it at the DC? | 07:28 |
lamont | fabbione: yeah - I'll do a build on concordia or some such | 07:28 |
T-Bone | lamont: heh :) | 07:28 |
fabbione | lamont: danke | 07:28 |
T-Bone | lamont: you see, in the ongoing port war, it is not acceptable that fabbione has d-i ready on sparc and we don't have it on hppa ;] | 07:29 |
fabbione | T-Bone: you will never have it for hoary anyway :) | 07:29 |
=== fabbione rocks | ||
T-Bone | fabbione: lol | 07:30 |
T-Bone | fabbione: hoary releases next week? | 07:30 |
fabbione | sparc > hppa | 07:30 |
kylem | fabbione, them's fighting words. | 07:30 |
T-Bone | fabbione: not in number of built packages :) | 07:30 |
fabbione | T-Bone: how many buildds do you have? and with how many cpu's + gb of ram? | 07:30 |
T-Bone | fabbione: i expect to have the installer ready by tomorrow, given a proper kernel | 07:30 |
lamont | T-Bone: we had a booting miniiso before he did | 07:31 |
T-Bone | fabbione: *LOADS* ;] | 07:31 |
T-Bone | lamont: hehe cool! hppa > sparc ;) | 07:31 |
lamont | mind you, you couldn't do anything with it. | 07:31 |
fabbione | T-Bone: than divide the num of your packages by (num of buildd * num cpu * Gb of RAM) | 07:31 |
T-Bone | lol | 07:31 |
fabbione | T-Bone: and i will do the same | 07:31 |
lamont | fabbione: I think we fixed xresprobe for you with 0.4.18 as well | 07:31 |
fabbione | the one with the higher num, wins | 07:31 |
T-Bone | fabbione: i don't do maths :} | 07:31 |
lamont | or was sparc already in the makefile the wrong (old) way? | 07:31 |
T-Bone | Failed to fetch http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/ubuntu-hppa/tree/pool/main/c/console-data/console-keymaps-usb_2002.12.04dbs-48ubuntu5_all.udeb 404 Not Found | 07:32 |
fabbione | lamont: nope.. i did fix xresprobe for hppa | 07:32 |
=== T-Bone curses lamont | ||
fabbione | lamont: and i did give you a kernel :) | 07:32 |
lamont | when did you fix xresprobe for hppa? | 07:32 |
lamont | because it hasn't built until 0.4.18, when daniels took my patch | 07:32 |
fabbione | lamont: i fixed xresprobe for hppa the same time i uploaded the fix for sparc | 07:32 |
lamont | ftbfs | 07:32 |
fabbione | using the dummy_thing.x | 07:32 |
fabbione | well, you never told me | 07:33 |
=== fabbione doesn't have a crystal ball yet | ||
fabbione | :) | 07:33 |
fabbione | ah no | 07:33 |
fabbione | xresprobe (0.4.12) hoary; urgency=low | 07:33 |
fabbione | * Fix ia64 and sparc port. | 07:33 |
fabbione | -- Fabio M. Di Nitto <fabbione@fabbione.net> Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:46:23 +0100 | 07:33 |
lamont | that's because it's been ftbfs all along, and I'd sent daniels the patch to just make it use dummy _EVERYWHERE_ that it didn't use one of the other two, instead of hardcoding each *()^*_& architecture one at a time | 07:33 |
fabbione | i fixed ia64 | 07:33 |
T-Bone | lamont: missing udebs are casper-check, di-utils, di-utils-reboot, di-utils-terminfo, hotplug-udeb, kickseed-common, localechooser, console-keymaps-at, console-keymaps-usb and initrd-kickseed | 07:33 |
lamont | fabbione: ah, and I fixed everything else, and removed your ia64/sparc fix by subsuming it. | 07:34 |
fabbione | lamont: my bad.. it was ia64 | 07:34 |
lamont | fabbione: heh | 07:34 |
fabbione | lamont: right | 07:34 |
T-Bone | lamont: can you fix that in an easy way or should i build something? | 07:34 |
fabbione | well mdz is not around | 07:34 |
fabbione | i am going to help my wife to cook dinner | 07:34 |
=== T-Bone begs lamont | ||
fabbione | later guys | 07:35 |
T-Bone | fabbione: cya | 07:35 |
zul | toodles | 07:35 |
T-Bone | linux-source-2.6.11_2.6.11-0.2: currently building | 07:36 |
T-Bone | ARG! | 07:36 |
lamont | T-Bone: bide | 07:36 |
T-Bone | lamont: yeah sorry :} | 07:36 |
T-Bone | lamont: so, what should I do? | 07:37 |
lamont | T-Bone: those are all newer than what I have in my archive... | 07:37 |
lamont | you may just need to build them | 07:38 |
lamont | for quick-turn that is | 07:38 |
T-Bone | what package builds them? | 07:38 |
lamont | T-Bone: casper, debian-installer-utils, hotplug, kickseed, console-data | 07:41 |
T-Bone | lamont: it's strange. The only package != universe I have left to be built are: | 07:41 |
T-Bone | devel/debian-installer_20041227ubuntu23 [extra:uncompiled] | 07:42 |
T-Bone | debian-installer/kbd-chooser_1.09ubuntu16 [-:uncompiled] | 07:42 |
T-Bone | misc/archive-copier_0.1.3 [-:uncompiled] | 07:42 |
T-Bone | unknown/palo-installer_0.0.6 [-:uncompiled] | 07:42 |
T-Bone | which means that they are supposedly up to date in your archive... | 07:42 |
lamont | it's possible that udebs aren't current in my archive.. | 07:42 |
T-Bone | gah | 07:43 |
T-Bone | i hate you :P | 07:43 |
lamont | the target was 'debootstrapable' at the time, if you recall | 07:43 |
T-Bone | lamont: problem is i don't have your changes to console-data to get it build | 07:43 |
lamont | sec | 07:43 |
T-Bone | not to mention that telling w-b to force rebuild those packages isn't gonna be cool | 07:44 |
T-Bone | unless there is a magic command? | 07:44 |
=== lamont pushes things around a bit | ||
T-Bone | ah! Thanks you sooooooo much ;} | 07:45 |
lamont | w-b --forget, w-b --take, echo "foo_ver hoary" > build/REDO | 07:45 |
lamont | for each foo_ver | 07:45 |
T-Bone | yumm | 07:45 |
lamont | and finish that before the next time you run merge-quinn | 07:46 |
T-Bone | more yumm | 07:46 |
lamont | baz register-archive http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/Archives/lamont@ubuntu.com--hppa-2005 | 07:46 |
lamont | is mirroring there now | 07:46 |
lamont | lamont@ubuntu.com--hppa-2005/console-data--hppa--2002.12.04 | 07:46 |
lamont | is the current console-data | 07:46 |
T-Bone | baz get that I suppose? | 07:47 |
lamont | on the bright side, once hoary releases, we won't have to keep merging the patch forward. | 07:47 |
lamont | yeah | 07:47 |
lamont | although it's not popultaed yet | 07:48 |
T-Bone | No such package (console-data--hppa) | 07:48 |
T-Bone | heh :P | 07:48 |
=== lamont types his passphrase a few hundred times | ||
=== T-Bone parses quinn-diff to figure out the version numbers of corresponding packages | ||
T-Bone | i must really be damn willing to get that thing to work, cause it's kinda boring ;] | 07:49 |
lamont | heh | 07:49 |
lamont | you sound like my 9 year old. :-) | 07:49 |
T-Bone | lol | 07:49 |
T-Bone | i hate you soooooo much :} | 07:49 |
lamont | "but it's _BOORIIINNNNGGGG" | 07:49 |
T-Bone | that's the idea, yeah :) | 07:50 |
zul | T-Bone: do you want a lolly? | 07:50 |
=== T-Bone ponders building missing udebs out of the buildds using his local sbuild | ||
lamont | the only lolly I know is married | 07:50 |
T-Bone | zul: you, i kill you, you! | 07:50 |
lamont | T-Bone: that would be simplest | 07:50 |
=== lamont starts an rsync of his local mirror up to p.u.c | ||
T-Bone | lamont: definitely. Just need to find versions | 07:51 |
=== T-Bone greps and greps more | ||
T-Bone | hmm | 07:53 |
T-Bone | i knew this wasn't that easy | 07:53 |
T-Bone | /usr/bin/fakeroot debian/rules binary-arch | 07:53 |
T-Bone | make: Nothing to be done for `binary-arch'. | 07:53 |
T-Bone | dpkg-genchanges -B -mUbuntu hppa unofficial buildd <buildd@buildd.slashdirt.org> | 07:53 |
T-Bone | dpkg-genchanges: arch-specific upload - not including arch-independent packages | 07:53 |
T-Bone | dpkg-genchanges: failure: cannot read files list file: No such file or directory | 07:53 |
T-Bone | lamont: that's casper | 07:53 |
lamont | ew | 07:54 |
T-Bone | yeah, that's what I said too :P | 07:55 |
T-Bone | isn't casper "all"? | 07:55 |
T-Bone | Architecture: all | 07:55 |
=== T-Bone giggles | ||
T-Bone | same goes for hotplug | 07:56 |
T-Bone | and kickseed | 07:56 |
lamont | well, in that case, add that horrible hack to pull them from the real archive | 07:57 |
T-Bone | i'm left with console data, and another tweak to sources.list.udeb.local to add something that will make it get all udebs | 07:57 |
T-Bone | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dists/hoary/main/debian-installer/binary-i386 ? | 07:58 |
lamont | console-data source and debs in ubuntu-hppa/lamont if you want to go that route | 07:58 |
T-Bone | much easier | 07:59 |
T-Bone | lamont: 403 | 08:00 |
lamont | grumble | 08:01 |
T-Bone | i guess so :) | 08:01 |
lamont | fixed | 08:01 |
T-Bone | thx | 08:01 |
lamont | btw, baz mirror of console-data done, working through ubuntu-meta now | 08:03 |
T-Bone | ok | 08:03 |
T-Bone | building console data | 08:03 |
lamont | udebs were there too, you know... | 08:04 |
T-Bone | yeah, but i can ;} | 08:04 |
T-Bone | i don't trust that archive no more, you see... =] | 08:04 |
lamont | mind you, it could be completely wrong, since it just clones the i386/ppc/whatever keymaps into hppa... | 08:04 |
T-Bone | huhuhu | 08:05 |
T-Bone | gonna be fun | 08:05 |
lamont | funny part is that those debs you found aren't in changes files anywhere... | 08:05 |
lamont | which is just plain wierd | 08:05 |
T-Bone | for my current usage i don't need it anyway (serial console), but we'll have to look at that | 08:05 |
lamont | yeah | 08:05 |
T-Bone | my top priority is getting a netbootable installer image sufficient to net install machine using serial console, for next friday | 08:06 |
T-Bone | once I have that, it'll be time to look at something more suitable :) | 08:06 |
lamont | that's 99% of the way there, of course... | 08:07 |
T-Bone | indeed | 08:07 |
T-Bone | console-data successfully built | 08:09 |
=== T-Bone tries again to build d-i | ||
T-Bone | E: Malformed line 3 in source list /build/varenet/debian-installer-20041227ubuntu24/build/sources.list.udeb.local (dist parse) | 08:17 |
T-Bone | shit | 08:17 |
T-Bone | it doesn't like the hack | 08:17 |
T-Bone | lamont: can you move the all.udebs in place or can you tell me how to do that? | 08:17 |
lamont | fetch the packages.gz file from the right place, and lots of wgets | 08:19 |
T-Bone | sigh | 08:19 |
lamont | or edit the local sources list like it says | 08:20 |
T-Bone | that's what i did | 08:20 |
T-Bone | and it didn't like it | 08:20 |
T-Bone | cat sources.list.udeb.local | 08:20 |
T-Bone | deb http://archive.slashdirt.org/udebs ./ | 08:20 |
T-Bone | deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/ubuntu-hppa/tree hoary main/debian-installer | 08:20 |
T-Bone | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dists/hoary/main/debian-installer/binary-i386 | 08:20 |
lamont | sigh. | 08:21 |
T-Bone | indeed :P | 08:21 |
lamont | yeah - just grab the binary-i368/Packages.gz, grep for _all.udeb, and wget those lines | 08:21 |
lamont | then apt-ftparchive that tree | 08:21 |
T-Bone | will do | 08:21 |
lamont | baz mirror complete | 08:23 |
=== T-Bone attempts again to build d-i | ||
T-Bone | lamont: btw, i'm quite worried at how gcc-3.4 build failed... | 08:27 |
T-Bone | yay, all udebs were downloaded fine | 08:29 |
=== T-Bone wanders away for a short while (dinner time) | ||
zul | meh.. | 09:00 |
T-Bone | yatta, d-i built successfully | 09:10 |
zul | yatta? is that french french ;) | 09:10 |
T-Bone | iieh | 09:11 |
T-Bone | sole wa nihongo dessu ;] | 09:11 |
=== T-Bone tries to figure zul's face, laughs ;] | ||
zul | mama toifea kusotare | 09:13 |
T-Bone | lol | 09:14 |
T-Bone | Freeing unused kernel memory: 316k freed | 09:15 |
T-Bone | Setting up filesystem, pattempt to access beyond end of device | 09:15 |
T-Bone | lram0: rw=0, want=16520, limit=16384 | 09:15 |
T-Bone | eaKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! | 09:15 |
T-Bone | s e wait ... | 09:15 |
T-Bone | Can't find /proc in /etc/fstab | 09:15 |
zul | hah hah | 09:16 |
=== T-Bone looks at lamont, points at known problem, looks for a fix in d-i source | ||
=== T-Bone larts zul ;] | ||
zul | its called karma | 09:16 |
=== T-Bone notes he wants 64bit kernel, given the amount of RAM | ||
lamont | T-Bone: huh? | 09:20 |
lamont | T-Bone: sore wa nihongo desu | 09:21 |
T-Bone | lamont: our initrd is too big | 09:21 |
lamont | hrm.. fix that | 09:21 |
T-Bone | how? | 09:21 |
lamont | oh, there's the ramdisk thing | 09:21 |
lamont | see what ia64 does for default args | 09:21 |
lamont | boot with ramdisk=<number of KB>iirc | 09:22 |
lamont | or ramdisk_size | 09:22 |
lamont | or some such | 09:22 |
T-Bone | that's what i'm trying | 09:22 |
T-Bone | and it doesn't work | 09:22 |
lamont | btw, u-h/lamont cleaned up to just have current versions of stuff in it | 09:22 |
T-Bone | using ramdisk_size=16800 hangs the boot | 09:23 |
T-Bone | isn't palo limited in the amount of memory it can use for loading kernel/initrd? | 09:23 |
=== lamont would be asking Kamion about that, if it weren't 1 week before release | ||
lamont | could be | 09:23 |
T-Bone | SNAFU | 09:23 |
lamont | nah, normally it works... | 09:25 |
lamont | you could look at what debian/hppa does | 09:25 |
T-Bone | debian/hppa has a much smaller initrd | 09:26 |
T-Bone | kylem's last post about that was explicit | 09:26 |
lamont | so what don't they include that we are? | 09:26 |
T-Bone | pdc_iodc_bootin() died during seekread | 09:26 |
T-Bone | it's not dead! | 09:26 |
T-Bone | it just prompted me that | 09:26 |
T-Bone | lamont: any clue what that means? | 09:27 |
T-Bone | i suspect palo limitation wrt size of initial boot material | 09:28 |
=== T-Bone wonders what's on the ramdisk | ||
T-Bone | 14M build/udebs/ | 09:29 |
T-Bone | lamont: where should i look at, supposing i want to remove a bunch of stuff from the initrd? | 09:42 |
=== lamont shrugs | ||
=== T-Bone hates initrds | ||
T-Bone | 12M Mar 7 00:46 debian-di.img | 09:44 |
kylem | i concur. | 09:44 |
T-Bone | 13M Apr 2 21:13 ubuntu-di.img | 09:44 |
=== T-Bone wonders | ||
kylem | i hate cd images. | 09:44 |
=== T-Bone removes ide support, hopes that'll makes things a bit better | ||
T-Bone | let's remove usb as well | 09:47 |
=== T-Bone contemplates removing cdrom support, all in all | ||
=== T-Bone wonders how the ia64 installer works, given what he sees in the source tree, wonders if said installer *still* works | ||
lamont | lessee... 112MB at 1KB/sec... that's gonna take a while | 09:52 |
T-Bone | lamont: if i'm still able to do maths, if you're shapped at 56kbps, you should be able to do 7kBps (say round it at 5) :) | 09:53 |
lamont | yeah - but there's another rsync, and this is unshaped (since I don't shape ssh) | 09:54 |
T-Bone | tssks ;) | 09:54 |
lamont | nah - interactive perfomance is needful, dammit | 09:54 |
=== T-Bone votes for seemingly broken ia64 installer, adds random bits | ||
=== lamont test-builds -34 on hppa | ||
lamont | well, the config changes in -34 | 09:56 |
T-Bone | lamont: i think there's a bunch of config options missing | 09:57 |
T-Bone | and another bunch of d-i udebs missing | 09:57 |
zul | pope is dead | 10:00 |
lamont | zul: you mean the machine, or that pagan leader/ | 10:02 |
lamont | ? | 10:02 |
T-Bone | the machine? | 10:04 |
lamont | is a common name for computers | 10:05 |
=== lamont rather expected more response to the other option... :)) | ||
T-Bone | lol | 10:06 |
lamont | "and no, bears aren't catholic" | 10:07 |
=== T-Bone wonders what lamont is talking about :} | ||
lamont | mixing around american rhetorical questions | 10:08 |
T-Bone | oh | 10:08 |
zul | as in the dude | 10:08 |
T-Bone | i'm completely airtight to these ;} | 10:09 |
T-Bone | zul: ah yes! | 10:09 |
T-Bone | now i remember | 10:09 |
=== T-Bone makes note to watch The Big Lebowski again soon | ||
lamont | zul: bummer | 10:11 |
zul | yep | 10:12 |
lamont | you catholic then? | 10:15 |
lamont | Setting up tetex-extra (2.0.2c-3) ... | 10:16 |
lamont | dpkg: error processing tetex-extra (--configure): | 10:16 |
lamont | subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Illegal instruction) | 10:16 |
lamont | S | 10:16 |
lamont | woot | 10:16 |
zul | lamont: for the past 2 years yep | 10:18 |
=== lamont makes a note to curb his rude sense of humor | ||
lamont | s/rude/black/ | 10:18 |
zul | lamont: heh...i appreciated rude sense of humor | 10:19 |
lamont | heh | 10:19 |
=== lamont is around dead/hurt people way too much, you see. | ||
zul | im not dead...im catholic ;) | 10:27 |
zul | but i know what you mean | 10:27 |
=== T-Bone clobbers d-i to death, while at it | ||
=== lamont hands t-bone an urban broadsword^W^Wbaseball bat | ||
T-Bone | hehehehe | 10:30 |
T-Bone | very handy ;] | 10:30 |
=== T-Bone grumbles | ||
zul | whee...bk rocks...not | 10:31 |
T-Bone | though i removed a whole bunch of stuff, the .img is exactly the same size as before | 10:31 |
T-Bone | zul: no big news ;] | 10:31 |
T-Bone | hmm | 10:34 |
T-Bone | and the overflow is exactly as much | 10:34 |
T-Bone | RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 | 10:34 |
T-Bone | RAMDISK: incomplete write (-28 != 32768) 8388608 | 10:34 |
T-Bone | VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. | 10:34 |
T-Bone | Freeing unused kernel memory: 316k freed | 10:34 |
T-Bone | Setting up filesystem, pattempt to access beyond end of device | 10:34 |
T-Bone | lram0: rw=0, want=16520, limit=16384 | 10:34 |
T-Bone | '-28' heh | 10:35 |
=== T-Bone wonders whether the problem is elsewhere | ||
T-Bone | kylem: seen that kind of issues already? | 10:35 |
=== lamont takes daughter to the gym and probably a movie or something. back later | ||
T-Bone | lamont: | 10:36 |
T-Bone | last question before you leave (if possible) | 10:36 |
lamont | si? | 10:36 |
kylem | T-Bone, yes, that was reported on the d-hppa mailing list a little while ago. | 10:36 |
T-Bone | lamont: where do you tell d-i to look for an archive? (since we don't prompt that question at install time, iirc) | 10:37 |
T-Bone | kylem: sigh | 10:37 |
=== T-Bone guesses he needs Kamion-fu | ||
kylem | T-Bone, it means your initrd doesn't fit in 16384, bump it up some more :( | 10:37 |
lamont | I believe that it reads /etc/apt/sources.list (and munges it...) | 10:37 |
lamont | that is, the copy in the chroot wins | 10:37 |
T-Bone | kylem: i tried, and when i do that the box doesn't boot | 10:37 |
kylem | maybe it needs to be a multiple of some power? | 10:38 |
T-Bone | lamont: hmm ok | 10:38 |
T-Bone | kylem: i tried 32768 | 10:38 |
kylem | hmm. | 10:39 |
=== T-Bone contemplates the other installation option: install debian on one disk, debootstrap ubuntu on the other, reboot... | ||
T-Bone | yet, that doesn't fix that fucking rd issue | 10:39 |
lamont | T-Bone: uh, figure out what all is in the ramdisk, and how much has to go... figure out from there what to jetison? | 10:40 |
lamont | or shrink. | 10:40 |
kylem | i'm starting to get very apathetic to this whole thing. | 10:40 |
T-Bone | lamont: if only i understood what goes in the ramdisk | 10:40 |
lamont | kylem: which whole thing? | 10:40 |
kylem | d-i | 10:40 |
lamont | T-Bone: would be a research project for me too. | 10:40 |
T-Bone | kylem: you're not alone | 10:40 |
lamont | kylem: there is something to be said for just untaring a base image onto the disk... | 10:40 |
kylem | lamont, as long as netboot works, i'm pretty unconcerned with the rest. | 10:41 |
T-Bone | lamont: i dunno for kyle, but that kind of undocumented blackhole shit pisses me off *immensely* | 10:41 |
kylem | T-Bone, yes, that's exactly it. | 10:41 |
T-Bone | kylem: heh, you see, you're not alone :} | 10:41 |
lamont | undocumented blackhole? | 10:41 |
kylem | i want to fix something tiny, without spending 30 hours figuring out how everything fits together. | 10:41 |
T-Bone | lamont: buildd/d-i/dak and all the like | 10:41 |
kylem | because i don't have 30 hours to invest in it, in fact, i rarely have more than 1. | 10:41 |
T-Bone | that's exactly as kylem said | 10:41 |
lamont | ah, yes.... Networking truth #5. | 10:42 |
T-Bone | lamont: i'm getting more and more tired to hear "find it out by yourself" | 10:42 |
T-Bone | lamont: that's exactly why i left ia64: i don't like ia64, so i wouldn't fight for it | 10:42 |
lamont | T-Bone: heh. at the same time, you're covering ground I haven't trodden on yet... | 10:42 |
T-Bone | lamont: i'm fighting for hppa, yet, it's not fun | 10:42 |
lamont | anyway, really must run for a while | 10:43 |
T-Bone | lamont: sure, but it would be so much easier if the guys who wrote that shit wrote some doc to go along | 10:43 |
lamont | test build of -34 kernel (with ext3 perf, and your xfs modules), running | 10:43 |
T-Bone | and i mean *efficient* doc, not "do this this and that to do that" | 10:43 |
T-Bone | because currently i'm not trying to do "that". I'm trying to understand how it works to bend it to my needs. That's what FOSS is about, if i'm right... | 10:43 |
T-Bone | lamont: cool thx | 10:43 |
zul | kylem: pinteric's platform lot of ranting little nothing | 10:45 |
=== T-Bone remembers he hasn't chosen a DPL yet | ||
kylem | zul, heheh. | 10:45 |
T-Bone | unsurprisingly, gcc-4.0 failed to build because of libtool mess. Sigh. | 10:48 |
kylem | :( | 10:49 |
T-Bone | i can't count the number of packages that failed to build because of libtool mess. I'm so glad I never used libtool in my life :P | 10:50 |
kylem | consider yourself fortunate. | 10:51 |
T-Bone | heh | 10:51 |
=== T-Bone notices he spent yet another saturday doing nothing but ubuntu stuff, loathes | ||
zul | welcome to my world...hope you stay a while | 11:18 |
zul | its uh...snowing in april | 11:32 |
kylem | :) | 11:35 |
calc | CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK=y | 11:47 |
calc | that doesn't do what i think it does? | 11:47 |
calc | anyone awake? | 11:51 |
calc | config IDEDMA_ONLYDISK | 12:00 |
calc | bool "Enable DMA only for disks " | 12:00 |
calc | depends on IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO | 12:00 |
calc | help | 12:00 |
calc | This is used if you know your ATAPI Devices are going to fail DMA | 12:00 |
calc | Transfers. | 12:00 |
calc | Generally say N here. | 12:00 |
calc | erm ISN'T THAT VERY BAD? | 12:00 |
calc | means no optical drives will have DMA enabled, etc | 12:00 |
calc | seems to have been enabled in 2.6.8.1-17 (2 Nov 2004) | 12:01 |
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