| calc | not only do they not get dma at bootup, but they can never be enabled afterwards either, the kernel disallows it | 12:02 |
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| calc | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2773 | 12:04 |
| calc | fixing one box to install should not result in making optical drives useless for eg burning disks for 100% of users | 12:05 |
| zul | debian has it disabled as well | 12:06 |
| zul | and it has been brought up before | 12:07 |
| calc | disabled or enabled | 12:08 |
| calc | in ubuntu CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK=y | 12:08 |
| dilinger | hm | 12:08 |
| calc | which breaks optical drives for 100% of users instead of the few that don't work with dma | 12:08 |
| calc | since without dma the only thing that works reliably is copying files | 12:08 |
| dilinger | i haven't seen IDEDMA_ONLYDISK cause problems w/ cdroms yet | 12:08 |
| zul | calc take it up with fabbione he is going to tell you the same thing | 12:09 |
| calc | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4809 | 12:09 |
| calc | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4681 | 12:09 |
| calc | it claims in here to run hdparm -d1 /dev/foo | 12:09 |
| calc | but with that option enabled in the kernel it won't let you run that | 12:09 |
| calc | root@calc-amd64:~ # hdparm -d1 /dev/hda | 12:10 |
| calc | /dev/hda: | 12:10 |
| calc | setting using_dma to 1 (on) | 12:10 |
| calc | HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted | 12:10 |
| calc | using_dma = 0 (off) | 12:10 |
| dilinger | calc: as a matter of fact, it's enabled (dma, that is) on my cdrw/dvd drive on my laptop, and works fine | 12:10 |
| dilinger | so it certainly doesn't break optical drives for 100% of users | 12:10 |
| calc | well it definitely doesn't work on ppc according to bug 4809 | 12:11 |
| calc | and doesn't work on amd64 either | 12:11 |
| calc | i could try downloading a i386 iso and see if works on that i suppose | 12:11 |
| calc | note above says operation not permitted instead of failed | 12:12 |
| calc | like when you pass invalid stuff to optical drives like -m16 | 12:12 |
| dilinger | sorry, i misread your initial thing | 12:12 |
| === calc will double check with a knoppix disk | ||
| calc | but it appears to be caused by that option in the kernel | 12:13 |
| dilinger | you're saying IDEDMA_ONLYDISK should be disabled; i'd agree w/ that | 12:13 |
| calc | yea | 12:13 |
| calc | it was enabled due to one persons hardware not working with dma | 12:13 |
| calc | according to what i see in bugzilla | 12:14 |
| calc | and it was enabled on all archs | 12:14 |
| calc | i don't use my optical drive very often which is why i haven't noticed this earlier | 12:15 |
| dilinger | hrm | 12:15 |
| === calc bbl, testing the drive | ||
| dilinger | the original bug reporter doesn't mention which ide chipset driver he's using | 12:15 |
| zul | bbl | 12:17 |
| dilinger | the correct way to have fixed #2773, imo, would've been to either add the guy's cdrom to the list of blacklisted cdroms (drive_blacklist in ide-dma.c), or make sure there's not something screwy w/ his ide chipset driver (and make sure he's not using the generic driver) | 12:19 |
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| zul | talk to fabbione | 12:22 |
| calc | back | 12:23 |
| zul | he'll be doing the upload | 12:23 |
| calc | ok | 12:23 |
| calc | fabbione: whats up? | 12:23 |
| zul | dont think he is here though | 12:23 |
| calc | ok | 12:23 |
| calc | i verified it works fine under knoppix with 2.6.9 i386 without ONLYDISK set | 12:23 |
| dilinger | calc: you probably missed that | 12:24 |
| dilinger | <dilinger> the original bug reporter doesn't mention which ide chipset driver he's using | 12:24 |
| calc | dilinger: yea i left too early | 12:24 |
| dilinger | <dilinger> the correct way to have fixed #2773, imo, would've been to either add the guy's cdrom to the list of blacklisted cdroms (drive_blacklist in ide-dma.c), or make sure there's not something screwy w/ his ide chipset driver (and make sure he's not using the generic driver) | 12:25 |
| calc | dilinger: yea | 12:25 |
| calc | instead of blacklisting all ATAPI devices completely ;) | 12:25 |
| calc | fabbione: thanks for fixing it :) | 12:26 |
| calc | i have to go for now, but i'll be back later tonight (10-12hr probably) | 12:26 |
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| T-Bone | console-data is fux0red on ia64, how sweet :P | 02:33 |
| lamont | T-Bone: sigh | 02:50 |
| T-Bone | lamont: heh | 02:50 |
| T-Bone | lamont: "nobody cares" | 02:51 |
| T-Bone | :P | 02:51 |
| lamont | not until april 9th | 02:51 |
| T-Bone | i doubt it'll change then anyway :P | 02:53 |
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| === lamont ponders d-i/hppa/package-list, feels it may be a bit lacking... | ||
| lamont | fabbione: you around yet? | 04:35 |
| === lamont would like someone to review the changes in [http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/Archives/] lamont@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre34--2.6.10 | ||
| lamont | before I commit them to the kernel-team branch, that is. | 06:06 |
| fabbione | morning | 06:18 |
| fabbione | lamont: sure i can look at it | 06:18 |
| lamont | fabbione: the ext3 thing would be RC if we supported hppa. and the fix is localized to hppa. and we didn't bump the abi believe it or not. | 06:20 |
| fabbione | lamont: i still need to checkout :) | 06:21 |
| lamont | yeah | 06:21 |
| lamont | should be able to just baz diff lamont@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre34--2.6.10--patch-2 | 06:22 |
| fabbione | baz register-archive http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/Archives/ | 06:23 |
| fabbione | unable to access URL: /~lamont/Archives/.listing | 06:23 |
| fabbione | webdav error: 404 Not Found | 06:23 |
| lamont | fabbione: baz register-archive http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/Archives/lamont@ubuntu.com--2005 | 06:24 |
| lamont | that was a prefix, not the complete path... | 06:24 |
| fabbione | right | 06:25 |
| fabbione | lamont: the patch looks fine for me | 06:29 |
| fabbione | just go ahead and merge it in pre34 | 06:29 |
| fabbione | i only need to check one thing on .lnk files | 06:29 |
| fabbione | because from the patch they look empty | 06:29 |
| fabbione | but they should be | 06:29 |
| lamont | ok | 06:30 |
| fabbione | and the DPATCH header ;) | 06:30 |
| lamont | heh | 06:30 |
| lamont | yeah - I'll fix that | 06:30 |
| lamont | ## DP: Description: Speed up some atomic ops for ext3 performance | 06:31 |
| lamont | ## DP: Patch author: Grant Grundler | 06:31 |
| lamont | ## DP: Upstream status: unknown | 06:31 |
| lamont | committted | 06:35 |
| fabbione | updating now :) | 06:35 |
| fabbione | A patches/parisc-ext3-perf.dpatch | 06:36 |
| fabbione | i guess this is the famous I/O fix? | 06:36 |
| lamont | that's the make ext3 not suck molasses | 06:38 |
| lamont | paqtch | 06:38 |
| lamont | so, yes. | 06:38 |
| fabbione | eheh | 06:38 |
| fabbione | let's merge pre34 into experimental | 06:42 |
| fabbione | just because i need to wake up | 06:42 |
| lamont | modules/hppa/ide-core-modules is a broken link | 06:42 |
| lamont | oops | 06:42 |
| lamont | I could just move ide-core-modules back out of existance... | 06:43 |
| lamont | wasn't sure what all that was about... | 06:43 |
| lamont | (and that was part of why I didn't want to merge it quite yet... | 06:43 |
| lamont | duh. | 06:47 |
| fabbione | lamont: just commit the fix :) | 06:47 |
| fabbione | a .lnk file uses what is provided by kernel-wedge | 06:47 |
| fabbione | while a normal file picks up modules one by one | 06:47 |
| lamont | right | 06:47 |
| fabbione | just commit the fixes when you have them | 06:48 |
| fabbione | i still didn't hear anything from pitti about the 3 race conditions | 06:48 |
| fabbione | so there is time for -34 | 06:48 |
| fabbione | lamont: mind if i do a cosmetic change to the changelog? | 06:54 |
| lamont | go for it./ | 06:55 |
| === lamont creams | ||
| lamont | screams, even | 06:55 |
| lamont | ls -la modules/hppa/ide-core-modules | 06:55 |
| lamont | lrwxr-xr-x 1 lamont lamont 49 Apr 2 21:54 modules/hppa/ide-core-modules -> /usr/share/kernel-wedge/modules/ide-core-modules | 06:55 |
| lamont | lamont@smallone:~/kernel/linux-source-2.6.10-2.6.10$ more modules/hppa/ide-core-modules | 06:55 |
| lamont | modules/hppa/ide-core-modules: No such file or directory | 06:55 |
| lamont | lamont@smallone:~/kernel/linux-source-2.6.10-2.6.10$ more /usr/share/kernel-wedge/modules/ide-core-modules | 06:55 |
| lamont | drivers/ide/ide-core.o | 06:55 |
| lamont | what am I not seeing? | 06:55 |
| fabbione | that the file cannot be a symlink | 06:56 |
| lamont | that's what kernel-wedge created | 06:56 |
| lamont | but why won't more follow the symlink?" | 06:56 |
| lamont | s/more/open(2)/ | 06:56 |
| === lamont considers just putting ide-core-modules back into ide-modules and forgetting about it | ||
| fabbione | did you just changed the file and than rerun ./debian/rules binary-udebs? | 06:57 |
| fabbione | in that case the change needs to be propagated in 2 places instead of one | 06:57 |
| lamont | I changed the file and did fakeroot debian/rules clean | 06:57 |
| fabbione | oh | 06:58 |
| fabbione | hmm | 06:58 |
| lamont | or rather, I tried to debuild -S and that failed in the clean target. | 06:58 |
| fabbione | just a sec.. i am looking | 06:59 |
| fabbione | cat ide-core-modules.lnk | 06:59 |
| fabbione | drivers/ide/ide-core.ko | 06:59 |
| lamont | ext3-modules and cdrom-core-modules are both valid.. | 06:59 |
| fabbione | this is wrong | 06:59 |
| lamont | yeah - I fixed that | 06:59 |
| lamont | that's what I was trying to test | 06:59 |
| lamont | lrwxr-xr-x 1 lamont lamont 50 Apr 2 21:54 cdrom-core-modules -> /usr/share/kernel-wedge/modules/cdrom-core-modules | 06:59 |
| lamont | lrwxr-xr-x 1 lamont lamont 44 Apr 2 21:54 ext3-modules -> /usr/share/kernel-wedge/modules/ext3-modules | 06:59 |
| lamont | lrwxr-xr-x 1 lamont lamont 49 Apr 2 21:54 ide-core-modules -> /usr/share/kernel-wedge/modules/ide-core-modules | 06:59 |
| lamont | the first 2 work, the last one doesn't | 07:00 |
| lamont | but I can use the target of the symlink | 07:00 |
| lamont | that's just wacko | 07:00 |
| lamont | let me try something | 07:00 |
| fabbione | it's weird | 07:01 |
| === lamont kicks himself | ||
| lamont | so, count the characters in that link... | 07:08 |
| lamont | note that you only see 48 characters | 07:08 |
| === lamont removes the trailing space in the file | ||
| fabbione | doh | 07:09 |
| lamont | that's a kernel-wedge bug | 07:09 |
| fabbione | hmm somebody would say that it is a feature :) | 07:09 |
| lamont | uh, yeah | 07:09 |
| === lamont will verify that things build at least part way before he commits this fix | ||
| fabbione | let it go all the way... | 07:12 |
| fabbione | there is no need to get it fixed within 10 minutes :) | 07:12 |
| lamont | yeah | 07:13 |
| fabbione | dilinger: ping? | 07:18 |
| dilinger | pong | 07:34 |
| fabbione | dilinger: did you review the 3 race conditions i did forward to you, by any chance? | 07:34 |
| dilinger | no, i've been fighting w/ other stuff | 07:35 |
| fabbione | no problem | 07:35 |
| dilinger | (i'll get 2.6.11 out someday. probably after i kill herbert for writing this crap) | 07:35 |
| fabbione | ehehhe | 07:35 |
| fabbione | you will have the opportunity to talk with him at UDU | 07:36 |
| lamont | fabbione: herbert will be at UDU - cool. | 07:40 |
| fabbione | i think he will.. that's what i heard at least | 07:41 |
| fabbione | Bug #269: "Wrong merging on directories" added | 07:42 |
| fabbione | ops | 07:42 |
| lamont | ACPI: AC Adapter [ACAD] (on-line) | 07:57 |
| lamont | ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery absent) | 07:57 |
| lamont | ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT2] (battery absent) | 07:57 |
| lamont | very confused ACP | 07:57 |
| lamont | I | 07:57 |
| === lamont wants support for his AC97 modem | ||
| lamont | fabbione: I'm going to commit the known fix, and go to bed.. it's building modules on the 3rd of 4 kernels right now | 08:39 |
| fabbione | lamont: fine for me | 09:32 |
| lamont | fabbione: is building the 4th kernel now | 09:33 |
| fabbione | lamont: rocking | 09:34 |
| lamont | Built successfully | 10:15 |
| crimsun | lamont: which ac97 modem do you have? | 10:15 |
| lamont | 0000:00:07.6 Communication controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Intel 537 [AC97 Modem] (rev 30) | 10:16 |
| crimsun | there actually is support | 10:17 |
| crimsun | snd-via82xx-modem | 10:17 |
| crimsun | due to the alsa-related changes, it'll be cardX where X>0 | 10:17 |
| lamont | no snd-via82xx-modem* files in modules... | 10:18 |
| lamont | which means we probably don't build it | 10:18 |
| crimsun | ah, I see, I'm looking at the Debian stuff | 10:18 |
| crimsun | yeah, you'll have to compile that yourself using 'alsa-source' | 10:20 |
| lamont | wow. periods of 7K/sec over a dialup line | 10:24 |
| === fabbione attempts to use a xen 2.6.11 patch on top of our kernel | ||
| fabbione | actually it doesn't look that nice at all | 10:29 |
| fabbione | apparently xen is very sensible to extra patches on top of vanilla | 10:29 |
| fabbione | that doesn't really help us | 10:30 |
| lamont | sensible? | 10:36 |
| lamont | or sensitive? | 10:36 |
| crimsun | (the latter) | 10:37 |
| lamont | bummer | 10:38 |
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| fabbione | yeah | 10:41 |
| fabbione | hmmmm | 10:42 |
| fabbione | i have the feeling i am doing something wrong at build time | 10:49 |
| fabbione | let's try another approach | 10:49 |
| lamont | crimsun: so what device file name am I looking for for the ac97 modem? | 10:55 |
| === lamont heads to bed before he gets key-prints on his face. | ||
| crimsun | lamont: cat /proc/asound/devices | 10:57 |
| crimsun | lamont: more than likely, it'll be hw:1 | 10:57 |
| fabbione | lamont: good night :) | 10:57 |
| crimsun | so you'd use plughw:1,0 | 10:57 |
| fabbione | nope.... | 10:58 |
| fabbione | it's one of our patch :/ | 10:58 |
| crimsun | :/ | 10:58 |
| fabbione | let me try the xen patch from bk | 10:59 |
| fabbione | at the end our kernel is more 2.6.11 than 2.6.10 | 10:59 |
| Lathiat | heheh | 11:02 |
| dilinger | fabbione: heh, i'm trying to resist the temptation to turn 2.6.8 into 2.6.10 ;) | 11:09 |
| fabbione | dilinger: eheheh | 11:11 |
| fabbione | my main point is that if xen is so sensitiv | 11:11 |
| fabbione | it might be the hell to maintain in time | 11:11 |
| dilinger | what's the goal of getting it built with linux-source? | 11:16 |
| fabbione | dilinger: one single source | 11:20 |
| fabbione | meaning that one security upload is propagated to all images at once | 11:20 |
| fabbione | the .11 patch doesn't build becuase of all the 4 level memory shit | 11:20 |
| fabbione | extern pmd_t *FASTCALL(__pmd_alloc(struct mm_struct *mm, pgd_t *pgd, unsigned long address)); | 11:22 |
| fabbione | i remember that pgd has been introduced with the 4Layer | 11:22 |
| fabbione | do you remember what was before? | 11:22 |
| fabbione | or pmd was introduced? | 11:23 |
| dilinger | i thought pmd was always there? | 11:36 |
| dilinger | part of the 3 level pagetables | 11:36 |
| dilinger | pgd, pmd, pte | 11:36 |
| dilinger | yea, pud was the thingy that was added | 11:37 |
| fabbione | include/asm-xen/hypervisor.h:43:39: asm-generic/pgtable-nopmd.h: No such file or directory | 11:37 |
| fabbione | bah | 11:38 |
| dilinger | um.. | 11:38 |
| dilinger | oh, right | 11:39 |
| fabbione | hmm intersting | 11:39 |
| fabbione | just adding the 2 includes it compiles | 11:39 |
| fabbione | or at least it starts compiling | 11:40 |
| fabbione | but heck.. we can't keep it this way | 11:40 |
| dilinger | include/asm-i386/pgalloc.h has the older empty pmd_free stuff | 11:41 |
| fabbione | yeah i did try to add that one and it failed for other reasons | 11:42 |
| fabbione | pointless to back port.. too much to fix around | 11:48 |
| dilinger | you can't use an older xen patch? | 11:55 |
| fabbione | the older xen patch builds fine, but it doesn't boot | 11:56 |
| === dilinger yawns. 6am, i'm gonna go to the grocery store | ||
| fabbione | and now i just noticed that not even doogie did xen-images for 2.0.5 | 11:56 |
| dilinger | fabbione: oh yea, that booting thing is kind of important, huh? | 11:56 |
| fabbione | dilinger: kinda :) | 11:56 |
| fabbione | there are only old 1.2 images | 11:56 |
| fabbione | i think he is having the same problems as i do | 11:57 |
| fabbione | well i need to get some stuff done | 11:57 |
| fabbione | and be ready for F1 :) | 11:57 |
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| zenwhen | Hey | 07:45 |
| zenwhen | Is anyone working on getting monitor mode orinoco drivers into the Ubuntu kernel? | 07:46 |
| zul | not right now since there is only a couple of days to release | 07:46 |
| zenwhen | Oh | 07:47 |
| zenwhen | Well yeah I can see that. | 07:47 |
| zenwhen | I just hope it happens at some point. :) | 07:47 |
| zul | perhaps...its in the list of todo | 07:47 |
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| dholbach | hey | 09:11 |
| dholbach | i just want a final confirmation: we will only need the most recent kernel-packages from debian for universe, right? | 09:15 |
| dholbach | (for our architectures) | 09:15 |
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| zul | yep | 10:00 |
| dholbach | ok | 10:01 |
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| Mithrandir | hm | 10:50 |
| Mithrandir | why the heck does mkinitrd try to find the LVM (!) device of my EVMS swap device? | 10:51 |
| Mithrandir | Finding all volume groups | 10:51 |
| Mithrandir | Finding volume group "vojei-sys0" | 10:51 |
| Mithrandir | /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/evms/swap: Cannot find LVM device | 10:51 |
| Mithrandir | Failed to create initrd image. | 10:51 |
| T-Bone | ouch | 10:55 |
| dholbach | good night | 10:59 |
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| Mithrandir | any idea why mkinitrd cares about my swap devices? | 11:16 |
| === T-Bone is clueless about initrds. you wanna ask jbailey when he's around | ||
| Mithrandir | yeah, I filed an RC bug. | 11:44 |
| Mithrandir | I can provide root-level access to the system just fine, though. | 11:44 |
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