| motaboy | Dunno. Probably they are talking about this on some channels. | 12:09 |
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| cartel_ | question where do ubuntu get their names for releases? | 12:09 |
| motaboy | Riddell: I got that system preferences has some file conflicting with kcontrol | 12:10 |
| motaboy | Riddell: plus when I launch it I get an empty window,only the bar, but show all is insensible. | 12:11 |
| Riddell | cartel_: mark shuttleworth makes them up depending on his mood | 12:12 |
| Riddell | motaboy: that'll be xdg menu strangeness, should be eaily fixable with some playing about | 12:12 |
| motaboy | Riddell: do you have any hint? :D | 12:13 |
| Riddell | motaboy: what's the conflicting file? | 12:14 |
| motaboy | Riddell: /usr/share/applications/kde/kcmfontinst.desktop /usr/share/desktop-directories/kde-settings-system.directory /usr/share/desktop-directories/kde-settings-power.directory | 12:15 |
| cartel_ | so whats better.. arch or svn? | 12:18 |
| Riddell | cartel_: baz | 12:18 |
| Riddell | motaboy: does it work if you overwrite those files? | 12:18 |
| cartel_ | Riddell: bazaar? | 12:18 |
| Riddell | cartel_: that's the baby | 12:18 |
| cartel_ | Riddell: can i install this on debian woody? | 12:18 |
| motaboy | Riddell: no. I think the problem is in the xdg menu implementation | 12:19 |
| motaboy | Riddell: Probably I have to generate some files from this ones? | 12:19 |
| Riddell | motaboy: it's definatly worked fine for me before, but it took some shuffling around of the files, I assumed he would have fixed that by now | 12:19 |
| cartel_ | Riddell: installing now | 12:19 |
| Riddell | I'll compile it and see what happens | 12:19 |
| === motaboy reads the xdg specs. | ||
| === cartel_ looks for a baz howto | ||
| cartel_ | is there an arch pserver? or it does everything over ssh? | 12:22 |
| Riddell | cartel_: it can use webdav too | 12:26 |
| Riddell | motaboy: are you going to restore that page or do you want me to do it? | 12:32 |
| motaboy | Riddell: I'm unsure on how to proceed... | 12:32 |
| motaboy | Riddell: do you have a copy of the page? | 12:32 |
| Riddell | motaboy: nope, although somewhere in the 7000 e-mails in my inboxes are all the changes made to it since it started | 12:32 |
| uniq | hello gentlemen. | 12:33 |
| uniq | any idea what's up with the wiki? | 12:33 |
| motaboy | Riddell: I have an unformatted version. Do you want that I send it to you ? | 12:33 |
| motaboy | uniq: no :( | 12:33 |
| Riddell | motaboy: yeah cool | 12:33 |
| motaboy | Riddell: sent | 12:35 |
| motaboy | It's getting late. Night All! | 12:42 |
| apokryphos | 'night | 12:43 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: quick q if I may: is there a quick way to resolve dependencies (and their versions etc) when making a .deb? Someone suggested pbuilder, but not quite sure if it should be used -- seems related to apt or the .deb src. | 12:44 |
| motaboy | apokryphos: there's also sbuild that it's the one used by buildd | 12:45 |
| apokryphos | motaboy: cool; how do I use it? | 12:46 |
| motaboy | apokryphos: I'm not very expert again | 12:46 |
| motaboy | apokryphos: but I setted up a chrooted environment | 12:46 |
| apokryphos | Yup, just did that with pbuilder... | 12:46 |
| apokryphos | *for | 12:46 |
| motaboy | apokryphos: then I launch "sbuild -v packagename.dsc" | 12:46 |
| motaboy | apokryphos: but you can use also inside your root | 12:47 |
| apokryphos | motaboy: hmm, I'm trying to make a .deb from the package source (not the deb one), so that's what should be used? | 12:47 |
| motaboy | apokryphos: and it will remove the packages that it has installed at the end | 12:47 |
| motaboy | apokryphos: it will resolve and install the deps. | 12:48 |
| apokryphos | dsc is stuff from the deb src, isn't it? (just getting to grips). | 12:48 |
| motaboy | apokryphos: yes | 12:48 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: dsc is the description file of the source | 12:48 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: the "control" file in debian/ ? | 12:49 |
| apokryphos | (the one you get from dh_name) | 12:50 |
| apokryphos | *dh_make | 12:50 |
| apokryphos | motaboy: slightly confused :). Where is the .dsc, then? Or do I have to make one...? | 12:51 |
| motaboy | apokryphos: is it a source file made by another one, or is it made by you? | 12:52 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: debuild -S will make a .dsc as well as a .diff (and there should already be a .orig as well) | 12:52 |
| apokryphos | yup, got the .orgi.tar.gz so far | 12:52 |
| apokryphos | *orig | 12:53 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: Depends: ${shlibs:Depends} will magically add the correct depends for things which need C/C++ libraries | 12:53 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: to clarify, I should just run Debuild -S in the source directory? | 12:54 |
| motaboy | Riddell: Now I'll go bed. I'll try to understand the systempreferences problem tommorow. | 12:54 |
| motaboy | CUAll. | 12:54 |
| Riddell | motaboy: guid nicht | 12:54 |
| apokryphos | bye; thanks for the help :) | 12:54 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: yes, debuild will make the .debs debuild -S will make the source (.diff/orig and .dsc) | 12:55 |
| uniq | apokryphos: i use a chroot, made by debootstrap, in which i build packages with debuid, or sometimes dpkg-buildpackage. | 12:55 |
| uniq | bah.. s/debiud/debuild | 12:55 |
| === apokryphos first .deb build :P | ||
| apokryphos | and the shlibs goes in... ? The "depends" part in "control" file? | 12:57 |
| uniq | read the new maintainer guide :) | 12:57 |
| apokryphos | uniq: which one? Link? | 12:57 |
| uniq | apt-get install maint-guide | 12:57 |
| apokryphos | right | 12:57 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: yes, Depends in control | 12:58 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: what are you packaging? | 12:58 |
| Riddell | there should be a template package to use | 12:58 |
| uniq | and maybe developers-reference too.. if you're patient. | 12:58 |
| apokryphos | krename :D | 12:58 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: what exactly would that be? :) | 01:00 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: krename is a C++ program? | 01:00 |
| Riddell | http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ | 01:00 |
| Riddell | http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-first.en.html#s-dh_make | 01:01 |
| Riddell | dh_make is the baby | 01:01 |
| apokryphos | Yeah, it's C++ | 01:02 |
| apokryphos | Yeah, was reading that guide... | 01:02 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: debuild -S seems to go well, but get an error with signing the changes: gpg: skipped `Francis Giannaros <francisg@gmail.com>': secret key not available | 01:09 |
| apokryphos | should I be using something else? | 01:10 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: do you have a gpg key installed? | 01:10 |
| apokryphos | no ;) | 01:10 |
| Riddell | that'll be it then | 01:10 |
| apokryphos | Not sure if I'm doing things in the right order here. Do I first configure all things in debian/, then debuild -S, then debuild? | 01:25 |
| cartel_ | arrgh, kdevelop doesnt support arch | 01:27 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: sort out debian then if you want .debs use debuild and if you want source "packages" use debuild -S | 01:28 |
| cartel_ | :'( | 01:29 |
| uniq | gnite guys. | 01:45 |
| apokryphos | 'night | 01:46 |
| lamont | validate-posix-sh: warning; cannot verify correctness of "debian/xfree86-common.postrm" with ash; shell not available | 01:47 |
| lamont | stupid xorg | 01:47 |
| === lamont would beat daniels with a shell, but THERE AREN'T ANY IN THE CHROOT | ||
| lamont | :-_ | 01:48 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: aren't man pages important? As far as I can see the guide seems to imply that I would have to write/edit the templates :-O | 02:00 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: most programs are expected to come with their own man pages if they need them | 02:03 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: but otherwise write your own (in docbook) and add the appropriate bits to rules | 02:03 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: sorry, that should have been "imported", not important, ergh. If the program has its respective man page, would that be pulled in automatically? | 02:05 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: they'll be installed normally then you add them to the install file in debian/ like any other file | 02:06 |
| cartel_ | poor daniels | 02:35 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: did I miss something and it was built for only i386? In control it's specified "Architecture: any". | 02:43 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: presumably you only built it on i386 | 02:43 |
| apokryphos | Can only build on the architecture you're on.. understandable. | 02:43 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: that package works for me | 02:46 |
| apokryphos | cool :) | 02:46 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: shall I send any other stuff over? | 02:46 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: add it to https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUNewPackages | 02:46 |
| apokryphos | please be sure to tell me with any things that might need to be altered with it :P | 02:47 |
| apokryphos | Ok, sure. | 02:47 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: include a link to .deb and sour | 02:47 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: include a link to .deb and sources | 02:47 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: the tar.gz or original tar.bz2? | 02:47 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: the .orig .diff and .dsc | 02:48 |
| apokryphos | Ok; no problem. | 02:48 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: you need to name the orig in the style of krecipes_0.7.1.orig.tar.gz | 02:49 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: then run debuild -S and it'll make the .diff and dsc | 02:49 |
| apokryphos | right; just remove the evil 1 | 02:51 |
| apokryphos | Though, Riddell, I do already have a .diff and dsc | 02:52 |
| apokryphos | I followed the guide and ended up using dpkg-buildpackage | 02:52 |
| Riddell | debuild just calls dpkg-buildpackages, but it checks dependencies first which is handy | 02:52 |
| Riddell | if you don't have a .orig then the .diff contains everything, which is not the way to do it | 02:53 |
| apokryphos | I have both. Just had to rename krename_3.0.3.orig.tar.gz1 | 02:53 |
| apokryphos | debuild refuses to build with an orig.tar.gz there | 02:55 |
| Riddell | what does it say? | 02:55 |
| apokryphos | dpkg-source: failure: unable to create `krename_3.0.3.orig.tar.gz.tmp-nest': File exists | 02:56 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: .orig is in directory above the source? | 02:57 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: if krename_3.0.3.orig.tar.gz.tmp-nest exists then remove it and run debuild again | 02:57 |
| apokryphos | ok | 02:58 |
| apokryphos | Successfully signed dsc and changes files | 02:59 |
| Riddell | groovy | 03:00 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: that process seemed to lose the orig.. | 03:09 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: it deleted it? | 03:09 |
| apokryphos | Yes | 03:09 |
| Riddell | very strange | 03:10 |
| Riddell | well slap whatever you have on a server and I'll take a keek | 03:10 |
| apokryphos | Is it perhaps down to the fact that I changed the name? Took off that 1 | 03:10 |
| Riddell | don't see any reason for a 1 being there | 03:11 |
| apokryphos | heh. Ok, uploading | 03:11 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: http://www.youmortals.com/stuff/ubuntu/krename/ Sorry for the hassle -- really appreciate this. :) | 03:16 |
| Riddell | dpkg-source: cannot represent change to krename_3.0.3.orig.tar.gz1: binary file contents changed | 03:22 |
| Riddell | something funny going on there | 03:22 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: you have a file called krename_3.0.3.orig.tar.gz1 inside your source directory | 03:24 |
| Riddell | that's not right | 03:24 |
| apokryphos | Argh | 03:25 |
| apokryphos | I might have actually moved it there when trying to rename | 03:25 |
| Riddell | the level of conversation in #kubuntu is starting to tend towards that of #ubuntu :) | 03:27 |
| Riddell | still no desktop flame wars yet | 03:27 |
| apokryphos | It's actually partly my fault | 03:28 |
| apokryphos | the idiot in there (Gangster') is an "acuintence" of mine | 03:28 |
| apokryphos | found out I use IRC and here he is. Ergh. | 03:28 |
| Riddell | :) | 03:29 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: but I should be able to still use the orig there, eh? Does the debuild -S alter it at all? | 03:32 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: put the orig in the directory above the source | 03:32 |
| Riddell | debuild -S won't alter the orig | 03:32 |
| Riddell | but it will use it | 03:32 |
| apokryphos | so I better rebuild... | 03:33 |
| Riddell | yep | 03:34 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: the version number should be 3.0.3-0ubuntu1 (and actually should be 3.0.3-0ubuntu0.1 etc until it's ready to upload) | 03:34 |
| apokryphos | Darn; should have remembered that. For the guys at MOTU, then, I should leave as ubuntu0.1, and I guess they can alter? | 03:36 |
| apokryphos | I guess have I have to do the dpkg-buildpackages again, then. :) | 03:37 |
| Riddell | yep | 03:37 |
| apokryphos | not too much loss as the debuild -S returned errors: i.e. gunzip: stdin: not in gzip format | 03:37 |
| Riddell | is it gzip or did you just rename from bz2? | 03:39 |
| apokryphos | No idea what it's talking about with regard to gzip; don't see any gzip too. Never did rename the tar.bz2.. | 03:40 |
| Riddell | how did you make the .orig file? | 03:41 |
| apokryphos | hm, now wondering if that came in earlier when experimenting a bit | 03:43 |
| Riddell | well you want to make it by bunzip2ing the .bz2 and gzipping it and renaming to follow the correct pattern | 03:44 |
| apokryphos | Pretty sure it was built with the dpkg-buildpackage though.. | 03:44 |
| Riddell | .orig isn't build by anything, it's the origional (or as close as you can get it) | 03:45 |
| Riddell | I'm off to bed, #ubuntu-motu has people if you need help | 03:45 |
| Riddell | add the package to https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUNewPackages and we'll try and find people to review | 03:46 |
| apokryphos | ok, thanks for all the help :) | 03:46 |
| Riddell | amu, haggai: don't support either of you registered #kubuntu or #kubuntu-devel? | 03:54 |
| Riddell | http://img87.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img87&image=10021237tu.jpg | 04:20 |
| Riddell | spotted in the wild! | 04:20 |
| Riddell | http://dot.kde.org/1112582895 giving away Kubuntu CDs | 04:50 |
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| apokryphos | Riddell: as a note: finished the .deb with proper version etc. Thanks for all the help. :) | 01:53 |
| apokryphos | that gzip error was down to me specifying the tar.bz2 in the dh_make, by the by. | 01:54 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: groovy. add it to the MOTU page and then we need to find people to review | 01:54 |
| apokryphos | yup, done. | 01:54 |
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| elmo | amu: what's the baz url for seeds? | 03:06 |
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| haggai | elmo: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com | 03:39 |
| elmo | yah, I meant the commitable one, but I found it, thanks | 03:39 |
| haggai | np | 03:39 |
| Riddell | Kamion: I just did a fresh install and it seems to ask which linux I want installed, linux, linux-i386 or linux-2.6.10-i386. is there a difference? seems slightly confusing to the user | 06:40 |
| Riddell | Kamion: could you add vorbis-tools to the kubuntu desktop seed? | 06:41 |
| Kamion | Riddell: were there previous errors during the installation? that question only shows up in expert mode (errors can drop you back to expert mode) | 06:44 |
| Kamion | Riddell: any particular category in the seed? | 06:45 |
| Kamion | ("don't care" is an acceptable answer) | 06:45 |
| Riddell | Kamion: next to kaudiocreator in the seed (which will be in kdemultimedia) | 06:46 |
| Riddell | Kamion: it complained that my partitions weren't set up right | 06:47 |
| Kamion | right, that would do it | 06:48 |
| Kamion | Riddell: seed changed | 06:48 |
| Riddell | Kamion: thanks | 06:52 |
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| motaboy | Hi all! | 07:15 |
| uniq | hello. | 07:16 |
| haggai | hi | 07:18 |
| Riddell | haggai: what's the plan with adding updates-from-cvs patches? | 08:03 |
| Riddell | haggai: there's a few changes I'd like to make after doing this fresh install so I could add them as I do those | 08:04 |
| haggai | Riddell: I looked at the updates, and there are rather a lot | 08:08 |
| Riddell | haggai: do you think they're likely to cause trouble? | 08:09 |
| haggai | Riddell: I think there is a good chance they will in places | 08:09 |
| Riddell | maybe we should just do it for kde-i18n and try and do a kde 3.4.1 in hoary-updates | 08:09 |
| haggai | Riddell: it is difficult to tell. Obviously they are all supposed to be bug fixes but there are a lot of backports that could be not very well tested | 08:10 |
| motaboy | usually the patches backported to the KDE_3_4_BRANCH are only bug fixes | 08:10 |
| Riddell | motaboy: usually :) | 08:10 |
| haggai | motaboy: have you actually looked at the commits? I know they are supposed to be fixes but the quantity is scary, and they are not all obvious what they are doing | 08:10 |
| motaboy | haggai: I always keep an eye on kde-cvs ml | 08:11 |
| haggai | motaboy: I think we have a good chance to introduce a new bug and not have time for it to surface before the release | 08:11 |
| motaboy | haggai: and the backports are not so much | 08:11 |
| motaboy | haggai: yeah. | 08:11 |
| haggai | Riddell: yeah I think so, much as I know this strategy will mean we ship with some bugs that could have been fixed | 08:12 |
| motaboy | haggai: IMHO that before a release only very annoying bugs should be fixed | 08:12 |
| haggai | motaboy: I agree | 08:12 |
| haggai | Riddell: the kde-i18n changes are so big the diff is > 450Mb. I think we should just make a new tar.gz | 08:12 |
| haggai | Riddell: something like 3.4.0+cvsyyyymmdd | 08:13 |
| motaboy | haggai: I'm sorry. I didn't had much time for that annoying konqueror crash | 08:13 |
| motaboy | haggai: I wrote some things in the bug. | 08:13 |
| motaboy | haggai: but It's hard to me to find the real cause. | 08:14 |
| haggai | motaboy: yes, thanks for your research. That bug is being hard to track down | 08:14 |
| motaboy | haggai: I'd like to report it upstream. | 08:14 |
| haggai | motaboy: please do | 08:14 |
| motaboy | haggai: ok. maybe the developers of that part will solve it in 1 second. :D | 08:15 |
| haggai | motaboy: heh :) | 08:15 |
| uniq | heh.. check out http://pippin.gimp.org/view/?http://pippin.gimp.org/gallery/panorama/gjovik_gard.jpg in firefox.. and then in konqueror.. notice a difference? :) | 08:49 |
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| Riddell | haggai, amu: are we releasing on Wednesday or Friday? | 10:06 |
| amu | release is same day like ubuntu ... Friday, but a "Friday release" isnt good, i prefer Monday | 10:09 |
| Riddell | what's bad about Friday? | 10:11 |
| haggai | Friday sounds better than Wednesday | 10:12 |
| amu | most (normal) people go Friday into weekend. If they return at Monday, the News isnt fresh.With gnoppix i release all time Monday, you get more more NEWS, compared to Friday | 10:15 |
| Riddell | we could just do it tonight, trump ubuntu :) | 10:16 |
| haggai | heh >-) | 10:45 |
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| uniq | finally.. got the wiki to work.. had to change my passowrd (?).. to be able to add/change anything.. | 10:53 |
| Riddell | amu: libmad as a build depends? can you do that? | 11:07 |
| Riddell | amu: and is cdrdao moving into main? | 11:08 |
| amu | asked haggai about it, till libmad is not on the cd ... | 11:10 |
| amu | and cdrdao was: 7877 see comment #8 from pitti | 11:10 |
| motaboy | Riddell: sorry. are you talking about k3b mp3 plugins? | 11:12 |
| Riddell | motaboy: talking about the k3b amu just uploaded to hoary | 11:14 |
| Riddell | libmad is in main, didn't know that | 11:14 |
| motaboy | Riddell: amu said for amarok | 11:14 |
| Riddell | well I don't have a CD burner so I'm trusting that it'll all work :) | 11:15 |
| Riddell | motaboy: said what for amarok? | 11:15 |
| motaboy | Riddell: probably I didn't understood but talking about k3b-mp3 amu noticed that libmad is in main an said that it's here for amarok | 11:16 |
| Riddell | oh I see | 11:17 |
| Riddell | so everything should be sorted. groovy | 11:17 |
| motaboy | Riddell: but I cannot seed libmad as a build dep of amarok... | 11:17 |
| motaboy | s/seed/see | 11:17 |
| motaboy | Riddell: it's a dep of akode-mpeg | 11:18 |
| motaboy | knapster2??? | 11:19 |
| motaboy | kwave and kpresenter??? | 11:19 |
| motaboy | Riddell: BTW I noticed that systempreferences doesn't work because it has some problems with it's xdg files. | 11:23 |
| Riddell | motaboy: that's what I said would be the problem | 11:23 |
| cmf | are there any plans to add rosegarden 1.0? | 11:24 |
| cmf | there's and outdated version in universe | 11:24 |
| Riddell | cmf: not thought about it but good idea, please add to HelpingKubuntu | 11:26 |
| cmf | okies | 11:28 |
| cmf | just reading the wiki now.. :d | 11:28 |
| cmf | shall i comment, or edit? | 11:29 |
| cmf | hmm, konqy seems busted | 11:32 |
| cmf | cookie handler error when i try to manage cookies (so i can login to comment regarding rosegarden) | 11:33 |
| cmf | on ubuntulinux.org that is | 11:33 |
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| motaboy | cmf: try restarting kded | 11:40 |
| cmf | okies | 11:40 |
| motaboy | cmf: probably you updated kde without restarting it | 11:40 |
| cmf | possibly | 11:41 |
| cmf | ahh, it was the hal update | 11:41 |
| amu | arg .. i'm too stupid to read buildlogs :( | 11:47 |
| cartel_ | arrgh wtf | 11:49 |
| cartel_ | i HATE bitkeeper | 11:49 |
| Riddell | cmf: "Mr J Riddell" I don't use a title | 11:51 |
| cmf | i was joking :P | 11:51 |
| cmf | would you rather i changed it? | 11:52 |
| Riddell | yep | 11:52 |
| cartel_ | oh phew | 11:52 |
| cmf | okies, sorry about that then | 11:52 |
| cartel_ | it was april fools :) | 11:52 |
| cmf | shit, did i just delete that wiki page? i was trying to delete my comment... fuck | 11:54 |
| cmf | i have it here in my cache, but fuck fuck fuck | 11:54 |
| Riddell | cmf: hold that cache | 11:54 |
| cmf | will do | 11:54 |
| cmf | is it def gone, so sorry about this guys, fucking stupi dme | 11:55 |
| Riddell | cmf: blame the usability of the wiki | 11:55 |
| cmf | :) | 11:55 |
| Riddell | cmf: can you add the page again? | 11:55 |
| cmf | okies | 11:55 |
| cmf | is there a special way to add all teh headers and stuff? | 11:55 |
| uniq | which page? | 11:56 |
| cmf | HelpingKubuntu | 11:56 |
| Riddell | cmf: I'll sort the formatting, just add the content back | 11:56 |
| === uniq got HelpingKubuntu open in firefox. | ||
| cmf | i'll paste it all back in as plain text | 11:57 |
| cmf | if that's ok? | 11:57 |
| Riddell | cmf: yep | 11:57 |
| Riddell | uniq: hold it there, just in case :) | 11:57 |
| uniq | I will. | 11:57 |
| uniq | saving it too.. just in case :) | 11:57 |
| Riddell | what a troublesome page it is | 11:57 |
| uniq | indeed. not just the page.. the whole wiki. | 11:58 |
| uniq | imho. | 11:58 |
| cmf | all back as plain text | 11:58 |
| cmf | sorry about this again | 11:58 |
| cmf | that ok like that or you needing anything elsE? | 11:59 |
| Riddell | there we go, good as new | 12:03 |
| Riddell | cmf: how did you end up deleteing it? that's quite a usability issue | 12:04 |
| uniq | how does the undo link in the upper right corner work? | 12:04 |
| uniq | does it undo page deleting? | 12:04 |
| uniq | or is it just for editing? | 12:05 |
| cmf | Riddell: bellow my comment were 4 buttons and a textbox, i looked foe edit in there for my comment, saw delete so pressed that, then realised it was for teh wiki, pressed stop in konq but was too late | 12:05 |
| cmf | added comment sans Mr J ;) | 12:06 |
| Riddell | cmf: ah I see. well that wiki is rubbish, they may well be changing back to moin (which will screw up 100 things including that jinxed page I'll bet) | 12:07 |
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