[12:08] mmm gentoo... [12:09] bbl! [12:10] never tried gentoo.. don't have the patience to wait for compiling of everything.. xorg, kde, openoffice, gimp, etc.. would take days. === puckman [~puckman@dynamic-62-56-53-184.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [12:10] Hello there. [12:11] hello mr. [12:11] I just played with the live cd from kubuntu [12:11] OW [12:11] WOW [12:11] kde rocks, doesn't it? [12:11] Looks good enough to even ditch my mac osx [12:11] Sure does [12:11] :) [12:11] linux on powerpc is great too. [12:11] I first tried ubuntu and thought that was nice but lacking in speed [12:12] and then I tried kubuntu [12:12] it FLIES [12:12] it is soo fast on my shitty 400mhz powerbook [12:12] that I decided to stick it on my main machine as well [12:12] Cant wait to install it tomorrow [12:13] I left my machine at work downloading the install cd. [12:13] :) [12:13] It also seems to support the hardware better, is that possible? [12:13] .. I don [12:13] Streaming audio did not work properly under ubuntu but fine under kubuntu [12:14] 't know.. never installed kubuntu, or booted the livecd :/ [12:14] kubuntu showed my dvd on the desktop.. is kde using hal? is it a kde3.4 feature or a ubuntu feature? [12:14] Download it! [12:14] It is fantastic! [12:14] Gui is to die for. === _chris is now known as billytwowilly === neom [neom@neom.ca] has joined #Kubuntu [12:16] puckman: I use kubuntu though.. or ubuntu with kde installed :) [12:16] ah, yes I read that after I downloaded it, I did not know you could switch from an installed OS [12:16] very clever. === LeeJunFan [junfan@64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:22] it is. [12:22] the supercow powers of apt-get. [12:22] :) [12:23] hehehe [12:23] Wont be able to sleep tonight, there is an iso of kubuntu with my name on it at the office [12:23] maybe I should hop on the scooter and get it? :P [12:29] i thought kubuntu amarok played mp3 fine?? [12:29] do i need to install libraries? [12:30] try to get akode-mpeg [12:31] thx [12:32] does it work? [12:32] I used the live cd and could play streaming audio, mp3's straight out of the box on a shitty old 400mhz mac [12:33] whats the best kind of portable headphone at the moment [12:33] for instance to use on my zaurus [12:35] ooh zaurus [12:35] don't know.. i like the Koss PortaPro [12:35] I would not mind one of those [12:35] I love my sony ones. [12:37] cartel_: it does play MP3s fine === SeFoKumA [~zienaga@109.Red-81-37-193.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === hyphenated [~cgilmour@nzns1.eservglobal.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu [12:41] not here, only ogg [12:41] i installed akode-mpeg and restarted amarok === hyphenated goes to read all the links in the topic [12:42] uniq: i just got the koss The Plug [12:43] it seems funny, that it would include mp3 streams in the default playlist, but not be able to play them [12:45] kubuntu/hoary does not start X for me. [12:45] has anyone here done an apt-get dist-upgrade to hoary (from ubuntu warty), and then installed kubuntu-desktop ? [12:45] Missing fonts... [12:45] I am having trouble making the fonts look right in GTK apps under KDE [12:45] hyphenated: yes. [12:46] ther's a option for that in control center.. === blenderhead [~blenderhe@adsl-218-178-232.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:46] Ah! I have to install kubuntu-desktop after the install. [12:46] is it a known problem, or is it just a problem on my machine? === ovihc [~ovihc@212.54.54.79] has left #kubuntu [] [12:47] what exactly is in ubuntu-base? [12:47] is it possible to remove that package? [12:47] hyphenated: in control center - look and feel - gtk styles and fonts [12:48] eckhart: it's a meta-package depending on the packages needed to make basic system stuff work. === virgiln [~virgiln@wsip-66-210-31-202.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:49] so it's mainly for installing ubuntu? [12:49] uniq: uh.. I can't find "look and feel". putting it in the search tab brings up "Theme Manager" as the result [12:50] yes.. or.. well.. it's basically just a load of more or less essential packages.. you will need them after installation too. [12:50] hyphenated: sorry.. i'm translating kde-stuff from norwegian.. will find the correct name.. 2 sec. [12:50] but if i understand correctly, it does not do anything if i remove it? [12:51] uniq: thanks, I appreciate the help so far === blenderhead [~blenderhe@adsl-218-178-232.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:54] hyphenated: appearance & themes - gtk styles and fonts [12:55] ok, I have 'appearance & themes', but nothing underneath it about gtk === AMIGrAve [~AMIGrAve@154.116-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu [12:57] hum.. [12:59] hyphenated: get gtk2-engines-gtk-qt [12:59] apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt [12:59] or use kynaptic/synaptic. [01:00] uniq: and as if by magic, it appears :-) [01:00] uniq: thank you very much for pointing me at that [01:00] <__P__3> libvorbis 1.1 [01:00] <__P__3> ? [01:01] hyphenated: no problem, hope it works. [01:01] <__P__3> mplayer ask me for this lib and libfontconfig [01:01] what do I have to do to port locate (kioslave) from a debian package to kubuntu package? [01:01] __p__3: are you compiling or running mplayer? [01:02] <__P__3> installing new with synaptic [01:02] virgiln: get a hoary chroot, grab the packages and see if it compiles [01:02] __p__3: libvoribs is named libvoribs0a [01:03] libfontconfig is named libfontconfig1 [01:04] Riddell: ok, thx, it compiles... looking at debian mantainership files === eckhart [~eckhart@p83.129.212.118.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu === hyphenated [~cgilmour@nzns1.eservglobal.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu [01:13] Night All! === godsmoke [~godsmoke@cpe-66-108-155-162.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:16] uniq: now everything looks normal and gorgeous. [01:16] great :) [01:16] I had KWallet closed when first configuring KMail -- and so KMail complained ... and I went on -- now that I've started KWallet, all other applications integrate fine -- but KMail continues to say that KWallet is inaccessable -- tried restarting KDE, doesn't seem to make a difference -- any ideas? [01:17] now how do I trick them into adding it to the kubuntu-desktop metapackage? :-) [01:17] (it was probably a recommended package that I overlooked when I did the apt-get install) [01:18] hyphenated: adding what? [01:19] gtk2-engines-gtk-qt [01:19] it's in universe. [01:20] hmm yes, we should move that into main [01:20] but it can't go on the CD because it depends on gtk [01:20] and.. maybe we should make remove-gnome packages.. that conflicts with some of the essential gnome-stuff.. and same for KDE too.. get alot of questions about removing gnome, and removing kde.. [01:21] but.. that's a bitch anyway.. [01:22] I bet dpkg has a sensible way to purge gnome stuff [01:22] riddell: i'm building rosegarden4 1.0-1ubuntu1 now.. from the debian sources.. [01:22] well.. [01:22] apt-get --purge remove libgnome2-0 [01:22] easiest.. [01:22] and re-install mozilla-firefox [01:23] and any other package you'd like.. that disappear.. [01:23] does firefox depend on libgnome? [01:23] aparently.. [01:23] maybe for the ubuntu theme [01:23] re [01:23] uniq: ping [01:24] there is a separate -gnome-support package.. for firefox. [01:24] mhz: ack [01:24] uniq: :) [01:24] uniq: I just feel stupid but no way my audio cds are played. [01:24] uniq: kscd [01:24] audio: unknown soundsystem '1' [01:24] cdda: setup_soundsystem failed [01:24] audio: unknown soundsystem '1' [01:24] cdda: setup_soundsystem failed [01:25] Riddell: yeah, it does. The one in the repositories does at least. [01:25] strange.. don't know.. havent had a audiocd for years.. :/ [01:25] I set alsa, direct digital playback, /dev/dsp [01:26] probably easier to set oss.. and use oss emulation for alsa.. [01:26] two kernel modules.. which probably are loaded already. [01:26] uniq: hmmm, I changed alsa for arts and now I hear something but v-er-y cu-t s-ou-nd [01:27] mhz: mp3? [01:27] mhz: chmod +s /usr/bin/artswrapper [01:27] Riddell: audio cd (Marillion) [01:28] riddell: i'm building ubuntu packages of rosegarden4 now.. from the debian source. only changed the version basically.. [01:29] uniq: cool, make sure it all works and slap it on a webserver somewhere and add a link next to the entry on HelpingKubuntu [01:29] I will. === mhz tried uniqs but unsuccessfully [01:30] I don't have the program locally though.. i'm doing everything via ssh.. on my server.. cant download shit on this dialup connection.. hopeless. [01:30] uniq: rosengarden4 -- what is that? [01:30] apokryphos: apt-cache show [01:30] :) [01:32] uniq: you want me to apt-cache show it? Erm, pretty sure I don't have it. No results. [01:32] oh. [01:33] you don't have universe then? [01:33] though, I don't know what it is, so can't be sure of me not having it :P [01:33] Sure do [01:33] darn it; spelling wrong [01:33] :) [01:33] Music Editor and MIDI/Audio Sequencer - anyway ;) [01:34] well, late now ;-). But so I see; thanks. [01:34] very late.. should be sleeping hours ago.. but you know.. this linux stuff is addictive. [01:35] I meant late as in, late delivery of information :P, but yeah, it's pretty late here too. [01:36] ah.. It's late as in late here.. (you probably figured already.. by that reply.. ) === moominski [~moominski@cpc2-belc1-6-0-cust224.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> zelazny.freenode.net === Nakkel [~nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:45] how can i get a list of progran [01:45] programs! in the repositories [01:45] moominski: dpkg --get-selections [01:46] that's for the installed packages.. [01:46] in the repositories? [01:46] start kynaptic [01:46] ah ok === TechLord [~jason@c68.115.87.182.roc.mn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:48] sudo kynaptic, though === DangerousBanger [~dangerous@200141160041.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [01:50] you're right.. sudo.. of course. [01:51] does someone here use nicotine (a soulseek client) [01:51] ? === sander__ [~sander__@pool-141-157-194-215.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:52] I've got it installed.. yes. [01:54] I built a kio_locate deb, I'm kinda new at building debs, so it'd be nice if someone else would check it out to make sure it works [01:54] but otherwise, I'd like to upload it to a repo [01:55] uniq: in Kubuntu? [01:55] dangerousbanger: yes. [01:55] uniq: i can't.... there's a problem [01:56] virgiln: add it to the MOTU page for new packages [01:56] virgiln: you need to find 3 people to review it (I'll do it but not tonight) [01:56] dangerousbanger: what's the problem? [01:56] Riddell: ok, no hurry === TechLord [~jason@c68.115.87.182.roc.mn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:57] riddell: 3 motus ? [01:57] uniq: when I try to run it, it asks for pygtk 2.4.... But 2.6 is installed... [01:57] dangerousbanger: did you install it with kynaptic/synaptic/apt-get ? [01:57] python-gtk2 [01:58] uniq: the two ways... apt-get and downloading the pack in the nicotine's site [01:58] I did it the apt-get way.. and that works. [01:59] what could be wrong? [01:59] just remove the downloaded package from nicotiens site.. and remove all the files from it.. [01:59] uniq: can I past here the error message? [01:59] then do: apt-get install --reinstall nicotine [01:59] uniq: I already did that... [02:00] dangerousbanger: if it's not too many lines it should be ok. [02:00] uniq: yes [02:00] riddell: ok. [02:00] virgiln: make a note on KubuntuHelpers too [02:01] do I have to make an account to make changes to the wiki? [02:02] ok, don't worry about it, I'll just make an acocunt [02:02] uniq: http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=36568 [02:03] uniq: i put the error message there, can you take a look: [02:04] Isn't it ironic that a company founded by someone who got his money from thawte (or whatever) would have unsigned certificates for its web pages? [02:05] nicotene is fugly === regeya [~shane@dialup-4.254.117.37.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:06] dangerousbanger: try: apt-get install python-gtk2 python2.4-gtk2 python2.4-numeric [02:06] virgiln: yes you do === billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:06] uniq: first uninstall python-gtk2 2.6 ? [02:07] no, apt-get will tell you if that is neccessary.. [02:07] is the first release going to be a packaged cd and sent for free? [02:08] is the printing system working for anyone? [02:08] kbitty: not kubuntu as far as i'm aware.. only ubuntu. [02:08] under both "normal user" and "administrator" modes, when trying to add a printer, it just crashes [02:08] what just crashes? [02:10] uniq: same thing... it didint work :( === regeya wasn't asking a rhetorical question [02:10] dangerousbanger: the n I don't know. [02:13] :( === regeya prints something just to taunt godsmoke and tries asking "what just crashes?" again [02:16] regeya: I presume they're talking about kcontrol [02:16] well, I don't really want to presume :-) [02:17] it's really annoying; someone asks if printing is working, says 'it just crashes' [02:17] though, then again, it might be the printer setup thing :D [02:17] then doesn't answer when someone asks a question about it [02:17] to be fair, it's been a rough day for me and it's getting worse...nevermind. I'm going to find some bourbon. [02:17] :) === moominski [~moominski@cpc2-belc1-6-0-cust224.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:27] even an "oh wait nevermind I managed to set up my printer thanks anyways" would be ok, godsmoke === joe__ [~joe@pool-151-197-43-130.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:29] regeya: sorry, I was fooling around with it [02:29] it's still crashing [02:29] what's still crashing? [02:30] #@%! [02:30] the "kde printing control center" [02:32] apokryphos, if you ever figure out your sound my friend please hit me up with an email. i don't get it its very strange that ac97 card :( [02:33] delltony_: which card? [02:33] delltony_: were you the one that posted in that thread, too? [02:33] yeah long time back [02:33] I've asked a couple of the pros (daniels, bob2) but nothing; might be something I'll have to deal with. [02:33] and then it just got aborted [02:33] so i gave up [02:33] i never got an update [02:34] and i have done exactly like they have stated [02:34] delltony_: so you're getting no sound at all? [02:34] no let me clarify [02:34] i get sound and all works fine but here is the catch === Gokhan-_ [~chatzilla@ool-4577b295.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:34] master controls no volume at all unless speakers are pluged up [02:34] then and only then does master do anything [02:34] on a normal use only pcm mono and headphones work [02:35] sounds like fun hardware [02:35] yeah no kiddin [02:35] delltony_: Oh. You use those much? [02:35] I never use anything but speakers here... so it's mildly annoying that I'm only getting output from [less than] half of them [02:35] delltony: this is a laptop, right? [02:36] correct [02:36] dell xps [02:36] you using oss or alsa? [02:36] alsa [02:36] hrm, and using alsamixer, you get these problems too? [02:36] its a known issue [02:36] ah, ok [02:36] bugreport has been filed [02:36] but [02:36] they just totally abandoned it [02:36] a bug for what? [02:36] the alsa driver? [02:36] hang on let me find it [02:36] yeah [02:41] let me find the bug report hang on [02:42] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7247 [02:42] there you go [02:43] uhm ... [02:43] didn't you say this was an alsa driver bug? [02:44] LSA folk: what can we do to get this working for all sound devices [02:44] automatically? Do we need to create a mapping of cards to default mixer controls? [02:44] they did [02:44] well, if this is an alsa bug [02:44] then: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/ [02:45] i'm just going by what ubuntu stated [02:45] i don't know who to blame if anyone [02:47] #mandrake === Gokhan-_ [~chatzilla@ool-4577b295.dyn.optonline.net] has left #kubuntu [] [02:56] well.. gnite people. === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:03] 'night === StR_gt [~StR@216.230.136.242] has joined #kubuntu === apokryphos [~apokrypho@host-84-9-35-9.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:13] what is the gui app to download upgrades for kubuntu? [03:14] StR_gt: available GUI package managers -- there is Kynaptic and KPackage [03:18] apokryphos: but pkackage cannot get files? just manage the installed, right? [03:18] StR_gt: Nope; it can do both very well. I use it myself. :) [03:19] kpackage looks better than kynaptic [03:19] It's more advanced, yes. [03:20] but the kpackage just opens a terminal and runs apt-get [03:20] is not like synaptic [03:21] No, KPackage/Kynaptic/Synaptic are all the same at the back -- they're all front-ends to apt. [03:21] When synaptic does something, it does it through using apt. [03:23] StR_gt: I suppose you haven't seen synaptic run :) -- because it does exactly that -- open up a terminal window, and show you the output of apt [03:24] godsmoke: I saw a nice progressive bar..... [03:24] for the downloading [03:24] not for the apt part [03:24] but i'm ok with konsole [03:24] godsmoke: yes... [03:24] yes ... [03:24] godsmoke: for the download [03:24] right [03:24] so? [03:24] it just opens a terminal anyway [03:25] for the apt output [03:25] godsmoke: I was just asking, I just wanted to know... [03:25] anyway -- there's no reason you can't run synaptic if that's what you want [03:26] godsmoke: na... [03:26] what does that mean? [03:26] is there a mozilla-kde or mozilla-qt pkg? [03:27] StR_gt: nope, but the manual installation process isn't too long at all [03:27] and for firefox? [03:27] StR_gt: why can't you run synaptic? [03:27] is there a problem with it? [03:27] godsmoke: I don't like gtk/gnome apps [03:27] firefox, well, there's only one firefox for linux. [03:27] StR_gt: heh [03:27] blame the mozilla people. [03:28] let's base a toolkit-agnostic browser on gtk! [03:28] it wasn't an unreasonable decision [03:28] firefox was mostly an attempt to bring konqueror features to mozilla [03:29] nnnnnnnnnnn [03:29] konqueror still doesn't work on konqueror... well.. it works, but not with the javascript [03:29] I'd use knoqueror if it actually had the following that firefox did -- I need my adblock and stuff [03:30] StR_gt: why isn't javascript working? [03:30] apokryphos: I cannot click on the mails in the list after I login... [03:31] StR_gt: what mails? [03:31] in my gmail.... [03:31] LOL.. i read again my post [03:31] i meant gmail still doesn't work on konqueror [03:31] It does, but there isn't full support for it [03:32] why not use kmail, anyhow? [03:32] It's great [03:32] intergration with kontact is nice, too. [03:32] yes, I must say [03:32] kmail is pretty impressively done [03:32] right... but I love the gmail system.... [03:32] indeed [03:32] kmail is great [03:33] if rangerrick and co. ever get kde going well on os x, look out [03:33] ... [03:34] StR_gt: the interface, you mean? [03:34] or what did you mean by "gmail system"? [03:34] godsmoke: yes the interface [03:34] and the gmailfs ;) [03:35] what module I need to load for isa [03:35] an isa sound card === Pyre [~Pyre@host-84-9-35-9.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === cyfa [~cyfa@nopninjas.org] has joined #kubuntu [03:39] hi === regeya_ [~shane@dialup-4.254.117.37.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu === rumpelstiltskin [~rumpelsti@0-1pool215-212.nas4.holland1.mi.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu === moominski [~moominski@cpc2-belc1-6-0-cust224.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:45] isa sound card! [03:45] wow! === henriquemaia [~henriquem@cb-217-129-175-184.netvisao.pt] has joined #kubuntu === Quinn_Storm [~quinn@67-21-73-227.pittpa.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:08] old ibm [04:10] in the kubuntu livecd its notrecognized and insmoding the snd_azt gives unresolved symbols [04:26] has anyone tried privoxy? === Quinn_Storm has and is using it now after slight reconfiguration [04:31] why does firefox need all those pkgs? [04:32] which packages would you be referring to? === mirspcm [~mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has joined #kubuntu === abc is now known as Roey === Mirno [~mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:44] gconf2 gnome-keyring gnome-mime-data libbonoboui2-0 libgconf2-4 libglade2-0 libgnome-keyring0 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common [04:44] etc etc etc [04:45] those are not firefox dependencies [04:45] they're subdependencies [04:45] hi [04:45] Just installed kubuntu on my laptop [04:45] It's greate i must say [04:45] godsmoke: so firefox should work without those libs? [04:46] did I say that? [04:46] no [04:46] they're subdependencies [04:46] things that are required by things firefox depends on [04:46] well, some of those, obviously, like libgnome are needed :) [04:47] but libbonoboui2? [04:47] dude [04:47] are you impaired? [04:47] just look at the dependencies of mozilla-firefox [04:47] those are the things that are required [04:47] directly [04:48] anyway [04:48] that type of stuff is not unusual for a browser [04:48] knoqueror has an equally long list [04:48] konqueror* === StR_gt [~StR@216.230.136.242] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === sander__ [~sander__@pool-141-157-218-253.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === blenderhead [~blenderhe@adsl-218-178-232.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:02] Has anyone successfully changed their timezone? I keep resetting it and it changes back to UTC. === Zugot [~bryan@pcp0010860530pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:03] how do i keep apt-get from upgrading my custom version of k3b? [05:03] Zugot: you can pin it. === ttf_ [~tom@p83.129.13.136.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu === billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:05] Zugot: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html [05:17] i have returned === moominski [~moominski@cpc2-belc1-6-0-cust224.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === gbhat [~gbhat@adsl-68-93-81-247.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === gbhat [~gbhat@adsl-68-93-81-247.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:43] Zugot: I think you might be able to uninstall k3b, install your version after. apt won't update what it doesn't see as installed. [05:45] Zugot: dude your nick just too much like Hebrew, do you know what it means? (yes I know I've brought this up before) [05:46] sander__: how are you going about changing your TZ? [05:48] LeeJunFan: I looked the tz is set correctly, but KDE for some reason keeps resetting itself back to utc. [05:49] sander__: if you run tzconfig it says your correct TZ? [05:50] yes it's right, but when I set the time in the KDE clock setting it defaults back to UTC. I'll wait to reboot though to see if it's a permenant bug or not. [05:50] sander__: hrm. I just noticed KDE has mine set to pacific time, I'm eastern. [05:51] sander__: nevermind, my stupitidy there. Wrong place. === pussfeller [~OMG@d187.rtcol.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] sander__: of course if I do adjust time and date, enter my password, nothing happens. :( Man that really sucks. I have that problem with a lot of KDE apps. === virgiln [~virgiln@wsip-66-210-31-202.ks.ok.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === _phate_ [~phate@c-67-166-69-185.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:54] Yeah, I made the change and I can get it to set temporarily, but it resets itself. I can manually select my timezone and it works, but I have my timezone name in place of the date. === dimmak [~rroper@lsanca1-ar55-4-65-118-030.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === regeya [~shane@dialup-4.254.117.37.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu === chavo [~chavo@44.sub-70-213-80.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.110] has joined #kubuntu [06:04] Roey: yes, I know what Zugot means [06:04] and my nick matches my personality [06:05] "pairs" ?= [06:06] yup [06:06] i swear i have a split personality === phate [~phate@c-67-166-69-185.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === phate is now known as _phate_ [06:08] <_phate_> how do I get the default KDE desktop icons back? [06:09] Zugot: :) [06:10] _phate_: Control Center->Appearance & Themes->Icons [06:10] one less step than in gnome *runs* [06:11] <_phate_> regeya: ? [06:11] _phate_: ? [06:11] <_phate_> regeya: where does it say to enable them [06:11] enable? [06:12] you don't have desktop icons then [06:12] oh! [06:12] <_phate_> the icons are missing from the desktop, how do I get them back [06:12] Control Center->Desktop->Behavior [06:12] sorry [06:14] <_phate_> I hit show icons on the desktop, hit apply, then refreshed, still no icons [06:15] <_phate_> do I need to apt-get something? [06:16] is this the first time you've tried to run kde on this system? [06:16] <_phate_> well yes === StR [~StR@216.230.136.242] has joined #kubuntu [06:17] how was it con configure kopete so that it re-login after disconnect? === StR [~StR@216.230.136.242] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === thoreauputic [~debianarc@wolax8-210.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === Rene_S [~rskrodzki@CPE000ae62705a3-CM014490004397.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:41] cookie service? [06:41] cookie SERVICE???!? [06:42] guh. [06:42] Unable to start the cookie handler service. [06:42] You will not be able to manage the cookies that are stored on your computer. [06:43] cookie handler service. honest to pete. === TechLord_Home [~jason@c68.115.87.182.roc.mn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:46] kcookiejar [06:49] hmm not having super user mode terminal and filemanager is a bit of a headache === Rene_S [~rskrodzki@CPE000ae62705a3-CM014490004397.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:06]