[04:47] <jsgotangco> greetings
[07:49] <froud> African Greetings
[07:55] <jsgotangco> hi froud
[07:56] <froud> js morning
[07:57] <froud> how r you today?
[07:58] <jsgotangco> im doing well im checking out the svn now for changes
[07:59] <jsgotangco> release-notes-tl.xml is not wellformed i am informedby yelp
[08:00] <froud> there are problems with the po file see th emailing list
[08:02] <jsgotangco> ok hold on
[08:06] <jsgotangco> what is the fuzzy header?
[08:08] <froud> some editors use fuzy logic to make the file header #, fuzzy
[08:08] <froud> this can be stripped.
[08:10] <jsgotangco> does a po file affect how well formed an xml becomes or does the tool really make bad xml?
[08:11] <froud> yes, since we make the nn-xml from the nn-po
[08:11] <froud> You are missing a url attribute on one of the ulinks
[08:12] <jsgotangco> im trying to validate the xml and fix it instead of fixing the po since i find this easier
[08:12] <froud> jsgotangco: not good
[08:13] <froud> if it does not get fixed in th epo then the xml will always be remade invalid
[08:13] <jsgotangco> ok so i go back to the po then
[08:13] <froud> jsgotangco: hint look at line 104 of the po
[08:14] <froud> then see line 105:136
[08:14] <froud> oops
[08:14] <froud> then see line 105:320
[08:15] <jsgotangco> fixed that
[08:15] <jsgotangco> already
[08:15] <jsgotangco> what should i get to make this po an xml and validate it myself?
[08:15] <froud> in trunk/ do make po
[08:16] <froud> do you have poxml installed
[08:16] <jsgotangco> no i dont think so
[08:16] <froud> do which xml2pot
[08:16] <froud> what do you get
[08:17] <jsgotangco> on pwd? i get nothing
[08:17] <jsgotangco> ok installed poxml
[08:17] <froud> ok do sudo apt-get install poxml
[08:18] <jsgotangco> done
[08:18] <froud> you should alsready have msgfmt installed
[08:18] <froud> part of gettext
[08:19] <froud> in trunk/ do make po
[08:20] <jsgotangco> ahhh i see that
[08:22] <jsgotangco> ok fuzzy is removed but i need to know where the header fields with initial default values
[08:24] <froud> "Last-Translator: FULL NAME <EMAIL@ADDRESS>\n"
[08:24] <jsgotangco> oh i edit that as well?
[08:24] <froud> ep
[08:29] <jsgotangco> wee ok i get it now
[08:29] <froud> :-)
[08:32] <jsgotangco> does the make po command check for possible errors as well for the conversion to xml?
[08:32] <froud> it checks th epo file with msgfmt
[08:33] <froud> this only checks the integrity of the po not the xml elements
[08:33] <froud> if the po is ok then it converts to xml
[08:34] <jsgotangco> ok ill submit the po again to re commit
[08:34] <froud> of course it first checks the old copy of the xml against the new copy before patching
[08:34] <froud> just make a patch
[08:35] <jsgotangco> oh you can patch po as well?
[08:35] <froud> any text file can be patched
[08:36] <jsgotangco> ooohhhh
[08:48] <froud> Burgundavia: morn
[08:58] <Burgundavia> salut
[09:03] <jsgotangco> hi
[09:15] <froud> jsgotangco: there is a problem applying your patch
[09:15] <froud> can your revert you tl.xml
[09:16] <froud> svn revert release-notes-tl.xml
[09:16] <froud> then create the patch just on your po file
[09:17] <froud> svn diff release-notes-tl.po > release-notes-tl.po.diff
[09:17] <froud> and send it again. Thanks
[09:26] <jsgotangco> ok wait i was not looking
[09:26] <froud> no rush, no worries, no stress
[09:32] <Kinnison> Morning
[09:32] <froud> morn
[09:34] <Burgundavia> salut Kinnison 
[09:38] <Kinnison> ca va?
[09:40] <Burgundavia> life goes on
[09:40] <Burgundavia> had a wedding today in my DnD game
[09:40] <Burgundavia> almost killed us
[09:41] <Kinnison> Heh
[09:41] <jsgotangco> lol
[09:42] <Kinnison> Last thing that almost killed us in role-play was someone using an ancient spell to addict people to alcohol during the period of prohibition in rhode island
[09:42] <Burgundavia> now that is funny
[09:43] <Burgundavia> damn gnomebaker
[09:43] <Burgundavia> taking 40 minutes to copy a cd
[09:49] <jsgotangco> i never got into role play
[09:49] <jsgotangco> it wasnt that popular in asian countries
[09:49] <jsgotangco> its mostly video games
[09:49] <jsgotangco> hehe
[10:21] <EricNeon> hi~
[10:21] <froud> hi
[10:22] <EricNeon> can I use plone at ubuntu-zh.org?
[10:23] <EricNeon> now ,we use moin Wiki
[10:23] <froud> Yes. Just post to ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com that this is what you want
[10:23] <EricNeon> oh,thank you !
[10:29] <claude> hi, i'm now in hoary !
[10:29] <EricNeon> hoho
[10:30] <claude> just one problem left with screen resolution :(
[10:30] <claude> with Warty, i was in 1600x1200
[10:30] <Burgundavia> ok
[10:30] <Burgundavia> and now?
[10:30] <claude> now only 1280x1024
[10:30] <claude> when i switch to 1600
[10:31] <claude> the desktop is larger than the screen
[10:31] <Burgundavia> ok
[10:31] <claude> not very practical :)
[10:31] <Burgundavia> what driver did you use on warty
[10:31] <EricNeon> I'm in hoary since a month ago~
[10:31] <claude> i810 (no ATI nor nvidia)
[10:32] <Burgundavia> ok
[10:32] <Burgundavia> did you do any custom tweaks to either configuration file?
[10:32] <claude> no, except maybe sync rates
[10:34] <mdke> froud, you here?
[10:34] <froud> uh huh
[10:34] <froud> claude: well-done
[10:34] <mdke> just seen the mails, are the po files all ok now or do they still need checking?
[10:34] <mdke> hi froud claude 
[10:34] <jsgotangco> they need some minor revisions
[10:34] <mdke> hi jsgotangco 
[10:34] <jsgotangco> hi
[10:34] <froud> I think I fix de
[10:35] <froud> svn up then with pwd trunk/ do make po
[10:35] <claude> i can now check if translated docs show under my desktop
[10:35] <claude> it's ok for about-ubuntu
[10:35] <mdke> would it be possible for you guys to deal with it today, i really need to focus on my exam
[10:36] <claude> but when i call help summary
[10:36] <claude> the english ones are showing
[10:36] <claude> :(
[10:36] <jsgotangco> at revision 841
[10:37] <mdke> froud, jsgotangco?
[10:38] <jsgotangco> hmmm ok ill try to fix some today they arenot that complicated anyway
[10:38] <mdke> jsgotangco, thanks i appreciate it
[10:38] <jsgotangco> but i still think the the guys who did the translation should do it *grin*
[10:38] <mdke> btw froud i don't think dpkg-reconfigure locales is the correct way to change language now in hoary
[10:39] <froud> mdke: ask claude 
[10:39] <mdke> afaik, its just selected on gdm login
[10:39] <claude> mdke: enrico told us that yesterday
[10:39] <mdke> hmm
[10:39] <mdke> i seem to remember it being in the releasenotes ;)
[10:39] <mdke> anyway, as long as it works
[10:40] <mdke> np
[10:40] <claude> dpkg-reconfigure lcoales is only to create locales
[10:40] <claude> it's not meant to change current locale
[10:41] <mdke> yeah
[10:41] <claude> we do so in terminal with LANG=
[10:41] <claude> this way, we don't have to relogin to test languages
[10:41] <mdke> but gnome takes the locale from the environment afaik
[10:42] <froud> jsgotangco: check tl see if it is ok I get two rejections on th epatch
[10:42] <mdke> i gtg
[10:42] <mdke> see ya later
[10:42] <claude> the LANG= directive should take precedence, just for the current terminal session
[10:43] <mdke> yeah
[10:43] <mdke> if you wanna change it for gnome you have to logout, change the environment and log in
[10:43] <mdke> i think
[10:43] <mdke> but anyway, np
[10:43] <mdke> cya later
[10:46] <jsgotangco> when i do make po i dont get any issues anymore
[10:48] <froud> jsgotangco: OK so may I suggest that before doing any work on files it is good practice always to do svn up
[10:48] <froud> before making a patch also do svn up
[10:48] <froud> then do svn status
[10:48] <froud> then make your patch
[10:48] <jsgotangco> i did that
[10:48] <froud> the rejects were because of changes in the repos that were not in your wc
[10:50] <jsgotangco> ok ill keep that in mind
[10:50] <froud> no worries
[10:50] <froud> this is how we all learn
[10:50] <froud> ;-)
[10:50] <froud> Thanks for your work
[10:50] <jsgotangco> froud: would it be ok to make a super patch for all the edits i did on the other po i fixed just now?
[10:51] <jsgotangco> or should i make patches per localization
[10:51] <froud> Best is to work small and patch
[10:51] <froud> make it per caus ethen it is easier to role back
[10:51] <jsgotangco> ok ill send the patches in a few minutes
[10:54] <froud> jsgotangco: svn up :-)
[10:57] <jsgotangco> ok im sending the patches now for the other languages
[11:09] <claude> the more important thing to verify before Hoary is that translated files appear in yelp summary
[11:10] <claude> that doesn't work now for me (ubuntu-docs 0.5-1)
[11:10] <jsgotangco> i think ubuntu-doc is not yet updated
[11:11] <claude> k
[11:11] <jsgotangco> even my copy still has typo errors
[11:30] <froud> jsgotangco: how do you make your diff
[11:31] <jsgotangco> svn diff filename-nn.po > filename-nn.diff
[11:32] <froud> why do I keep getting rejections on your patches
[11:32] <jsgotangco> hmm
[11:32] <jsgotangco> all the patches are rejected?
[11:32] <jsgotangco> maybe i should refresh my wc?
[11:32] <froud> sean@sean:~/projects/ubuntu/trunk/aboutubuntu> patch -p0 about-ubuntu-pt.xml about-ubuntu-pt.diff
[11:32] <jsgotangco> and get them from scratch again?
[11:32] <froud> patching file about-ubuntu-pt.xml
[11:33] <froud> Hunk #1 FAILED at 2.
[11:33] <froud> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file about-ubuntu-pt.xml.rej
[11:33] <froud> sean@sean:~/projects/ubuntu/trunk/aboutubuntu> patch -p0 about-ubuntu-de.xml about-ubuntu-de.diff
[11:33] <froud> patching file about-ubuntu-de.xml
[11:33] <froud> Hunk #1 FAILED at 3.
[11:33] <froud> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file about-ubuntu-de.xml.rej
[11:33] <froud> sean@sean:~/projects/ubuntu/trunk/aboutubuntu>       
[11:33] <jsgotangco> methinks i should create a new trunk
[11:36] <froud> jsgotangco: just send me your po files
[11:40] <froud> claude: Ialso cant patch from your diff.... wtf
[11:40] <froud> is there something about po files that they cannot be patched
[11:41] <froud> claude: just send me the po file
[11:41] <froud> jsgotangco: you too
[11:41] <froud> thanks
[11:41] <jsgotangco> ok
[11:44] <claude> froud: maybe you should be at trunk to patch
[11:44] <claude> not in the sub-folders
[11:45] <claude> the diff includes relative path to files
[11:48] <froud> claude: nope that is not it
[11:49] <froud> patch -p0 quickguide/quick-guide-fr.xml quickguide/quick-guide-fr-po.diff
[11:49] <froud> patching file quickguide/quick-guide-fr.xml
[11:49] <froud> Hunk #1 FAILED at 1536.
[11:49] <froud> Hunk #2 FAILED at 2376.
[11:49] <froud> 2 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file quickguide/quick-guide-fr.xml.rej
[11:50] <jsgotangco> hmm i just made a new trunk *grin* ill just fix the pos again
[11:52] <claude> strange, for me the patch applies ok
[11:53] <froud> from trunk/ or relative to
[11:53] <claude> from trunk
[11:53] <claude> maybe the .diff should be at trunk root ?
[11:54] <froud> I tried that
[11:54] <claude> patch -p0 quickguide/quick-guide-fr.po quick-guide-fr-po.diff
[11:54] <claude> ohhh
[11:54] <claude> sorry, the patch was for xml :-P
[11:54] <froud> Oh oh hold may be your right
[11:55] <froud> huh
[11:55] <claude> no, no
[11:55] <claude> blgraskdkhjkyxcjhk
[11:55] <claude> the patch was for po, right
[11:55] <claude> and you did for xml
[11:56] <froud> Hmm tired
[11:56] <claude> he, he
[11:58] <froud> you got me with the -po.diff instead of .po.diff
[11:58] <jsgotangco> ok po files sent i didnt fix fr claude already covered for that
[11:59] <jsgotangco> oh it was quickguide-fr
[11:59] <froud> jsgotangco: thanks will check this now
[11:59] <froud> claude: patch applied
[12:00] <claude> thx :)
[12:01] <jsgotangco> claude: maybe you can also fix release-notes-fr.po *wink*
[12:02] <claude> jsgotangco: k, i missed that :(
[12:04] <jsgotangco> froud: how come some of the xml files still dont open correctly with yelp?
[12:04] <froud> nearly there
[12:04] <froud> sean@sean:~/projects/ubuntu/trunk> make po
[12:04] <froud> Rebuilding docbook xml files from .po files
[12:05] <froud> ./make-po
[12:05] <froud> Processing modules: aboutubuntu releasenotes quickguide
[12:05] <froud> 24 translated messages.
[12:05] <froud> 24 translated messages.
[12:05] <froud> 24 translated messages.
[12:05] <froud> 24 translated messages.
[12:05] <froud> 24 translated messages.
[12:05] <froud> 24 translated messages.
[12:05] <froud> 24 translated messages.
[12:05] <froud> 127 translated messages.
[12:05] <froud> 127 translated messages.
[12:05] <froud> msgfmt: releasenotes/release-notes-fr.po: some header fields still have the initial default value
[12:05] <froud> msgfmt: releasenotes/release-notes-fr.po: warning: PO file header fuzzy
[12:05] <froud>                                           warning: older versions of msgfmt will give an error on this
[12:05] <froud> msgfmt: found 1 fatal error
[12:06] <froud> 124 translated messages.
[12:06] <froud> 127 translated messages.
[12:06] <froud> 126 translated messages.
[12:06] <froud> 127 translated messages.
[12:06] <froud> 533 translated messages, 1 fuzzy translation.
[12:06] <froud> patching file quickguide/quick-guide-fr.xml
[12:06] <froud> jsgotangco: must validate them
[12:06] <froud> if they are not valid then the po has problems
[12:06] <jsgotangco> but i just did an svn up and i only got the po files i fixed
[12:07] <jsgotangco> i thought the po files upon commit generate a new xml file
[12:07] <froud> yes but that does not mean there are no XML errors in th epo
[12:07] <froud> the check does not check the markup of xml
[12:07] <froud> which files have problems
[12:08] <jsgotangco> release-notes-pt.xml
[12:08] <jsgotangco> release-notes-tl.xml
[12:09] <froud> sean@sean:~/projects/ubuntu/trunk> ./validate.sh releasenotes/release-notes-pt.xml
[12:09] <froud> releasenotes/release-notes-pt.xml:208: parser error : EntityRef: expecting ';'
[12:09] <froud> es instalarem dispositivos sem necessidade de reinicializar (&quot;hot-swap&quot
[12:09] <froud>                                                                                ^
[12:09] <froud> next file
[12:09] <froud> sean@sean:~/projects/ubuntu/trunk> ./validate.sh releasenotes/release-notes-tl.xml
[12:09] <froud> releasenotes/release-notes-tl.xml:136: parser error : error parsing attribute name
[12:09] <froud> ary NVidia drivers. Para sa karagdagang impormasyon,tignan ang website ng <ulink
[12:09] <froud>                                                                                ^
[12:09] <froud> releasenotes/release-notes-tl.xml:136: parser error : attributes construct error
[12:09] <froud> ary NVidia drivers. Para sa karagdagang impormasyon,tignan ang website ng <ulink
[12:10] <claude> froud; stop flooding us :-O
[12:10] <claude> lol
[12:10] <froud> ok
[12:10] <claude> just sent the patch for release-notes-fr
[12:10] <froud> jsgotangco: thanks
[12:10] <froud> claude: thanks
[12:11] <froud> jsgotangco: you can use .validate.sh filename
[12:11] <froud> jsgotangco: you can use ./validate.sh filename
[12:11] <froud> to check valid or not on xml files
[12:11] <jsgotangco> ok im aware of that but i always thought a new commited po will make a new xml file on svn
[12:11] <froud> you must have xsltproc installed and xmllint
[12:11] <froud> it did
[12:12] <froud> see commit list
[12:12] <froud> I think I am gonna ask all authors not to use &quot;
[12:12] <jsgotangco> but if the xml is wrong and the make po does not show any issues, i end up editing the xml which you didnt recommend
[12:12] <froud> I think it is better we do <quote></quote>
[12:13] <froud> th eproblem is in the message string
[12:13] <froud> it contains xml
[12:13] <froud> which has incorrect syntax
[12:13] <claude> jsgotangco; you have to edit the po, do the xml conversion, check the result and return to po if problems
[12:14] <froud> msgfmt does not check xml only the integrity of the po
[12:15] <jsgotangco> ok so if i get it right, the flow should be, edit po, convert to xml, validate, if errors, fix po and convert again till the xml is correct?
[12:15] <claude> that's my point of view
[12:15] <froud> ok hold a sec
[12:16] <froud> I will do a make po again
[12:16] <froud> if there are changes it will show in svn
[12:18] <froud> sean@sean:~/projects/ubuntu/trunk> make po
[12:18] <froud> Rebuilding docbook xml files from .po files
[12:18] <froud> ./make-po
[12:18] <froud> Processing modules: aboutubuntu releasenotes quickguide
[12:18] <froud> 24 translated messages.
[12:18] <froud> 24 translated messages.
[12:18] <froud> 24 translated messages.
[12:18] <froud> 24 translated messages.
[12:18] <froud> 24 translated messages.
[12:18] <froud> 24 translated messages.
[12:18] <froud> 24 translated messages.
[12:18] <froud> 127 translated messages.
[12:18] <froud> 127 translated messages.
[12:18] <froud> 127 translated messages.
[12:18] <froud> 124 translated messages.
[12:18] <froud> 127 translated messages.
[12:18] <froud> 126 translated messages.
[12:18] <froud> 127 translated messages.
[12:18] <froud> 533 translated messages, 1 fuzzy translation.
[12:18] <jsgotangco> i get the same as well but the xml needs fixing
[12:19] <claude> 127, 124, 126 ??
[12:19] <froud> ok make po only updated one file the quick guide
[12:19] <froud> all commits done
[12:19] <froud> now all nn.xml must be validated
[12:19] <froud> not valid then check for problem in po and fix
[12:20] <claude> think that's our work, not translators
[12:20] <froud> if valid no problem
[12:20] <froud> claude: yes
[12:20] <froud> This is why before we send po files in future we must test them in wc
[12:20] <froud> then do patch
[12:21] <froud> we are learning
[12:21] <froud> :-)
[12:21] <froud> we muddle though
[12:21] <jsgotangco> its a good experience aye
[12:21] <froud> Ok dudes I must do work now
[12:21] <claude> froud: could you validate with xmllint in make-po ?
[12:21] <froud> I will monitor for messages and mail
[12:21] <claude> k
[12:21] <froud> claude: no
[12:21] <froud> po not xml
[12:22] <claude> yes, but you're making xml in make-po
[12:23] <claude> i let you work, now
[12:23] <claude> cya
[12:23] <jsgotangco> good thing my time zone allows me to to work with you guys at this time
[12:24] <froud-work> jsgotangco: where r you?
[12:24] <froud-work> in Tonga
[12:24] <jsgotangco> nooo
[12:24] <jsgotangco> Philippines lol
[12:24] <jsgotangco> +0800
[12:41] <jsgotangco> ok im going home
[12:41] <jsgotangco> bye bye
[02:34] <mdke> yo
[02:35] <froud-work> yo yo
[02:35] <mdke> heh
[02:35] <mdke> hi froud-work how goes it?
[02:35] <froud-work> work work
[02:35] <froud-work> goes well
[02:35] <froud-work> how is yor studying
[02:35] <mdke> good
[02:36] <mdke> not too bad
[02:36] <mdke> i might just about get there in time
[02:36] <froud-work> oh good. well dont let us stop you dude
[02:36] <mdke> heh
[02:36] <froud-work> study is more important the FOSS
[02:36] <mdke> nah
[02:36] <mdke> its easy
[02:36] <froud-work> until you dont know
[02:37] <froud-work> then you come here
[02:37] <mdke> i don't care about it too much, as long as i pass
[02:37] <froud-work> he he
[02:37] <mdke> no i mean the study is easy
[02:37] <mdke> the FOSS is the hard part
[02:37] <mdke> ;)
[02:38] <froud-work> we still have a couple of xml files that dont avlidate cause of problems in th epo files
[02:39] <froud-work> if you feel like doing something else
[02:39] <mdke> do you know which ones?
[02:39] <froud-work> just ./validate on each xml to find the problems
[02:39] <froud-work> they should all be checked
[02:39] <mdke> ok
[02:39] <mdke> will have a look
[02:45] <mdke> ones which don't work:
[02:45] <mdke> about-ubuntu-de.xml
[02:45] <mdke> release-notes-tl.xml
[02:46] <mdke> release-notes-pt.xml
[02:46] <mdke> ok that's it
[02:46] <mdke> i'll try and see what I can fix
[02:46] <froud-work> in de it is the entities change them to decimal as in http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocteamStepByStepl18n
[02:46] <froud-work> for the others it is problems with the xml inside the po files
[02:47] <mdke> kthx
[02:56] <mdke> ok german one is done, sending replacement (sorry i haven't time to work out how to do diffs/patches
[02:57] <froud-work> its fine
[02:58] <mdke> sent
[03:10] <mdke> ok sent a release-notes-pt.po too
[03:15] <froud-work> de work
[03:16] <mdke> oh good
[03:16] <mdke> gtg
[03:16] <mdke> see ya later
[04:32] <froud> enrico: his can you do packaging for upload
[04:34] <froud> enrico:  just one nn.xml is still not valid
[04:34] <froud> the tl
[04:35] <enrico> froud: you want me to svn up and repackage?
[04:35] <froud> svn up and repackage. If you have a minute check tl po file
[04:36] <froud> I am on a deadline so cant get  there
[04:36] <froud> use ./validate.sh 
[04:36] <froud> Uhh was it release notes or about?
[04:38] <froud> it was release notes
[04:38] <froud> enrico: I must go in a minute
[04:38] <froud> I will be back much later
[04:39] <froud> enrico: can you do the release-notes-tl.po ?
[04:40] <froud> if you can then do make po to patch the tl.xml
[04:40] <froud> and validate again until it is valid
[04:40] <froud> enrico: the script make-po now patches only when there are differences
[04:41] <froud> must go, c ya
[04:43] <froud> one more thing http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocteamStepByStepl18n is now updated
[04:43] <froud> if package is uploaded then Rosetta will find all pot changes
[04:43] <froud> c ya
[04:43] <froud> for real this time
[04:45] <enrico> cool
[05:26] <mvirkkil> Made some changes to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BreezyBadger
[06:44] <enrico> back online
[07:00] <claude> hi enrico
[07:01] <claude> see you're working on packaging :)
[07:02] <claude> did you fix the problem about translated docs not appearing in yelp summary ?
[07:06] <enrico> claude: I think that to solve that, you need to create translated .omf files
[07:06] <claude> for registration with scrollkeeper ?
[07:06] <enrico> yes
[07:06] <enrico> you can try to translate one into french, to see what happens
[07:07] <claude> ok, i'll try
[07:07] <enrico> then send it to me and I'll include it in the packaging
[07:08] <mvirkkil> ZWiki's MoinMoin sucks.
[07:09] <claude> enrico: do i have to make something with <relation seriesid...
[07:10] <mvirkkil> It's not complete, it's very sensitive to spaces (though that's probably MoinMoin's fault) and the preview doesn't always mach the result when saved (even _after_ the page actually gets refreshed, which often takes more than a minute).
[07:10] <enrico> i think no
[07:10] <enrico> claude: let me look into it
[07:10] <enrico> claude: don't modify it
[07:11] <enrico> claude: it's used by scrollkeeper to track different versions of the same file
[07:11] <enrico> so you want to keep it the same as the untranslated one
[07:11] <claude> k
[07:14] <enrico> froud-away: looks like Elmo's about to move to svk 1.1!
[07:14] <enrico> froud-away: cool!
[07:16] <claude> enrico: sent
[07:17] <enrico> claude: cool!  Sent where?
[07:17] <claude> to you
[07:20] <seb128> hi
[07:20] <seb128> claude: are you translating the .omf files ?
[07:20] <claude> hello
[07:20] <claude> i try...
[07:20] <seb128> there is almost no change to do
[07:20] <seb128> language code is fr
[07:20] <seb128> fr/about-ubuntu.xml for the url
[07:21] <claude> yes, i sent one file to enrico so that he can test
[07:21] <seb128> and the description
[07:21] <seb128> cool
[07:22] <enrico> claude: trying
[07:25] <enrico> claude: had to fix it (the location of the release notes has changed in my last package which I still haven't uploaded :)
[07:25] <enrico> claude: that's not your fault 
[07:25] <enrico> so much works pretty!
[07:25] <claude> i'm sure you'll soon fix it :)
[07:25] <enrico> I'll do the italian one; who asks the translators for the rest?
[07:28] <claude> we should give precise indications about what to translate
[07:30] <enrico> I committed the italian ones
, <description>, and <type>?, url and language code ?
[07:31] <enrico> I just did <description>, as in Italian "Release Notes" and "About Ubuntu" wouldn't really change
[07:32] <enrico> well, <title> does change, actually
, I have no idea
[07:32] <enrico> let's say just <title> and <description>
[07:32] <enrico> if those get translated, I'd be very happy already
[07:33] <enrico> Now, I'll make a release as things are now
[07:33] <enrico> If new translations arrive, it's just a matter of dumping them into debian/ and rebuild the package
[07:34] <claude> wait for my French omf...
[07:34] <enrico> seb128: if I'm not online, can you do that?  (of course bumping the package version)
[07:34] <seb128> hum
[07:34] <seb128> doing what ? you are uploading a version with french/italian now ?
[07:34] <seb128> just updating new omf files like for these ones ?
[07:35] <claude> froud can do updating...
[07:35] <claude> what he can't do is packaging
[07:36] <seb128> I can do packaging :)
[07:39] <enrico> seb128: that's the catch :)
[07:39] <enrico> I won't have net access tonight
[07:39] <enrico> debian/install already picks up about-ubuntu-*.omf
[07:40] <enrico> so you just need to dump them there
[07:40] <seb128> ok, nice
[07:40] <enrico> claude: sent the new OMF?
[07:40] <seb128> I can manage that
[07:40] <claude> enrico: yes
[07:41] <claude> I'll mail ubuntu-translators about omf strings
[07:52] <mdke> hiya
[07:52] <mdke> claude, ping
[07:52] <enrico> claude: perfect!
[07:52] <mdke> hi enrico
[07:53] <enrico> mdke: hi!
[07:54] <mdke> yo
[07:54] <enrico> Ok, I'm releasing.  seb128 will take care of adding further OMFs if I'm not around
[07:55] <mdke> ahhhhh
[07:56] <enrico> mdke: how come you're screaming?
[07:56] <mdke> enrico, now that was a gentle exhale of understanding
[07:56] <mdke> enrico, i just came in to ask about claude's email but now i've read the logs i understand
[07:57] <enrico> ah :)
[07:57] <enrico> zzip!  Uploaded
[07:57] <mdke> you want me to forward that email to the individuals who did the original translations?
[07:57] <enrico> mdke: yes, please do
[07:57] <mdke> ok
[07:58] <enrico> who's collecting the OMF files?  I won't be online for long
[07:58] <mdke> i suggest claude or froud-away, they are the only ones who know what is going on ;)
[07:58] <mdke> but you're the only one who can package right?
[08:02] <seb128> I'll package
[08:02] <mdke> :)
[08:02] <mdke> i'll just say to forward translations to the docteam list then
[08:03] <seb128> if you can get them commited to the SVN that's easy to update the package
[08:04] <mdke> ok hopefully someone will be able to do this
[08:04] <mdke> what files are they going in?
[08:04] <seb128> ?
[08:04] <mdke> (i missed your discussion don't forget0
[08:05] <seb128> the .omf files need to be translated to have the translated version for yelp
[08:05] <seb128> on the index
[08:05] <mdke> right
[08:06] <seb128> that's it
[08:06] <seb128> imf translations
[08:06] <seb128> s/imf/omf/
[08:07] <mdke> ok
[08:07] <mdke> separate files get created in debian/?
[08:07] <mdke> like debian/about-ubuntu-fr.omf?
[08:07] <mdke> ok see it
[08:09] <seb128> right
[08:09] <mdke> should be np
[08:10] <seb128> right, that's only a title and a short description
[08:11] <mdke> no idea who did xh
[08:11] <mdke> but should be able to find all the others
[08:13] <mdke> ok email sent
[08:17] <mdke> back to work
[08:59] <enrico> well, I was disconnected even before (the cable unplugged)
[09:00] <enrico> good luck with the release!
[09:00] <enrico> (I hope to be online a bit tomorrow)
[09:00] <mdke> whoa, is the release tomorrow?
[09:36] <mdke> wb
[09:42] <mdke> seb128, whats our deadline for those omf files? one response so far
[09:50] <seb128> tomorrow
[09:50] <mdke> seb128, kthx
[09:50] <seb128> np
[11:43] <mdke> froud-away, de and pt omf files to commit :)