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| ubuntu | Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig | 12:16 |
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| ubuntu | Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig | 12:16 |
| ubuntu | Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert: | 12:16 |
| ubuntu | base-config mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb xorg-driver-synaptics | 12:16 |
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| amu- | ppc, on a G4 works | 12:18 |
| amu | i386 works execpt bad looking X, GF GO5200, nv is detected, 1680*1050 fonts looks wired, wlan, auto-dhcp doent work on the ipw2200, if i run manual dhclient wlan works fine. | 12:34 |
| haggai | cool, got xine compiled with external libmad | 12:38 |
| haggai | I'll have to finish the packaging in the morning - need to fix depends/suggests | 12:38 |
| amu | mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb is installed, but no firefox | 12:44 |
| mdz | amu: testing install or live? | 12:53 |
| amu | mdz: live | 12:54 |
| cmf | why with ubuntu/debian does it show the swap drive and a 1K drive in media:/ ? | 12:54 |
| cmf | it just clutters it, can't it be hidden, are these drives really necessary? | 12:55 |
| cmf | also /dev is VERY cluttered, over 900 items? | 12:55 |
| mdz | very cluttered compared to what? | 12:56 |
| cmf | Arch Linux, my previous distro | 12:56 |
| cmf | about 30 entries iirc | 12:56 |
| cmf | not including dirs | 12:56 |
| mdz | that would surprise me; I'd like to see a file listing | 12:56 |
| cmf | okies | 12:56 |
| cmf | http://lootux.net/tmp0/ls_dev.txt | 01:00 |
| mdz | 90 ls_dev.txt | 01:00 |
| mdz | the only real difference between your listing and my local Ubuntu one is pty* and tty* | 01:01 |
| cmf | isn't it just clutter though? | 01:01 |
| mdz | I'm not sure why so many are being created | 01:01 |
| cmf | if it can be donw without? | 01:01 |
| mdz | yes, by definition | 01:02 |
| Kamion | why does it have /dev/cdroms/ and /dev/discs/? | 01:02 |
| mdz | probably using devfs | 01:02 |
| cmf | discs are hdd's and cdroms are cdroms | 01:02 |
| cmf | nope udev, possibly teh devfs backwards compat mode thing aswell | 01:02 |
| Kamion | looks like udev with devfs rules (e.g. in the installer or something) | 01:02 |
| mdz | looks like devfs (notice "total 0") | 01:02 |
| Kamion | there is a tradeoff between cleaning up clutter and actually doing useful work :) | 01:02 |
| mdz | oh, hmm, tmpfs does that too | 01:03 |
| cmf | tis def udev | 01:03 |
| cmf | also, in media:/ the swap drive (i thin it's swap) and teh 1K 'supposed' drive | 01:03 |
| mdz | I know of no reason why 600+ tty devices exist all the time; /dev/pts behaves reasonably | 01:03 |
| mdz | s/exist/must &/ | 01:04 |
| mdz | cmf: if you could send a tarball of /etc/udev on that system, I'd be interested | 01:07 |
| cmf | okies | 01:07 |
| mdz | this isn't something we're going to change 3 days before release, of course | 01:08 |
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| cmf | wb | 01:08 |
| mdz | but those device nodes take a non-trivial amount of time and memory | 01:08 |
| cmf | yeah, realise that | 01:08 |
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| cmf | ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/current/os/i686/udev-054-1.pkg.tar.gz | 01:10 |
| Kamion | cmf: (yeah, I know what /dev/discs/ and /dev/cdroms/ *are*, was just wondering why they were there) | 01:11 |
| cmf | look in that, it's all in ther | 01:11 |
| Kamion | we use them in the installer | 01:11 |
| cmf | Kamion: noticed that afterwards, sorry ;) | 01:11 |
| cmf | didn't mean to seem patronising | 01:11 |
| Kamion | np | 01:11 |
| mdz | gah, that tarball unpacks into cwd | 01:12 |
| === cmf can't wait to get an amd64 system, so ubuntu is actuall yoptimised to my hardware, rather than i386 | ||
| mdz | cmf: what's in your 'legacy/' subdirectory/ | 01:14 |
| mdz | ? | 01:14 |
| cmf | what legacy dir? | 01:15 |
| mdz | http://lootux.net/tmp0/ls_dev.txt | 01:15 |
| mdz | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 2005-04-01 14:19 legacy/ | 01:15 |
| mdz | that one | 01:15 |
| cmf | ah, that's not my server, it's one of arch's dev's | 01:15 |
| cmf | so no idea | 01:15 |
| mdz | from what I see in the udev config, the horde of devices that you noticed in ubuntu /dev are hiding in arch linux /dev/legacy | 01:16 |
| cmf | ahh | 01:16 |
| mdz | of course, nothing looks for them there | 01:16 |
| mdz | I suppose they're keeping them around until they determine for certain that they're unused | 01:17 |
| cmf | okies, well enjoying this, but must go sleep now, so nighty for now | 01:18 |
| uniq | cmf|sleeps: there will be a new version of rosegarden4 momentarily.. you'll have to chose the version.. because of my stoopid versioning of the virst package.. apt-get install rosegarden4=1.0-1ubunta0.2 - would be nice if you could test them tomorrow. | 01:20 |
| uniq | virst/first. | 01:20 |
| amu | another thing on the live my sys has 2 gig ram. live-kernel show me only 1 | 01:55 |
| uniq | god damn.. my p4 is sloooow. | 02:13 |
| Riddell | amu: that'll happen, the default linux build has a 1 gig ram limit, you need to explicitly install the other linux build to use memory larger than that or more than 1 processor | 02:21 |
| elmo | Riddell: did you see my comment about gwenview? | 02:47 |
| Riddell | elmo: nope (had to rush out this evening), will look at fixing the clock now | 02:48 |
| Riddell | http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kmenu.png big kmenu, good or bad? | 02:48 |
| cmf|sleeps | Riddell: good, i use 22 | 02:55 |
| Riddell | cmf|sleeps: but the scaled icons look really bad at 22 don't they? | 02:55 |
| cmf|sleeps | all lokks good to me | 02:55 |
| cmf|sleeps | 32 is too big for 800x600 | 02:56 |
| cmf|sleeps | 32 does loook nice though | 02:57 |
| Riddell | cmf|sleeps: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kmenu2.png 22x22 | 02:57 |
| Riddell | they look really bad there | 02:57 |
| cmf|sleeps | 32 does lok nicer | 02:58 |
| cmf|sleeps | but i must sleep, nighty | 02:58 |
| Riddell | but we do need 800x600 support, and 22x22 looks really bad so I think it'll have to remain at 16x16 for now | 02:59 |
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| Riddell | kdeaddons does not include akregator plugin | 04:53 |
| Riddell | and dh_install --list-missing doesn't want to work | 04:53 |
| Riddell | cp: cannot stat `usr/bin/atlantikdesigner': No such file or directory | 04:53 |
| dato | Riddell, if lines in *.install files don't carry a debian/tmp/ as prefix, you need an extra argument for dh_install | 04:54 |
| dato | is that the case? | 04:54 |
| Riddell | dato: yes it is | 04:55 |
| dato | then you need dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp ... | 04:56 |
| Riddell | groovy | 04:56 |
| dato | or, if it's a cdbs package, DEB_DH_INSTALL_SOURCEDIR := debian/tmp | 04:56 |
| dato | Riddell: were are you pulling kdeaddons from? | 05:01 |
| Riddell | dato: not sure, amu did it, I think he did it all himself | 05:06 |
| dato | ok. in case he's using cvs (kdeaddons is not kept in svn), make sure he's pulling out of KDE_3_4_BRANCH | 05:07 |
| dato | Ben (Burton) always uses the corresponding branch for each major version, so HEAD can by waaaaaaay outdated | 05:07 |
| dato | debian/ in HEAD, that is | 05:07 |
| dato | (and certainly, konq-plugins has the akregator plugin in our packages) | 05:08 |
| Riddell | doesn't seem to be the case, debian in kdeaddons from KDE CVS HEAD has up to 4:3.4.0-0pre1 which amu's version doesn't | 05:11 |
| Riddell | and debian in kdeaddons from KDE CVS HEAD include akregator which this doesn't | 05:12 |
| dato | mmm, HEAD? | 05:13 |
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| dato | Riddell: btw, is there a repo of Kubuntu's KDE packages? | 05:14 |
| Riddell | dato: nope, we havn't managed to get one set up, part of the reason why we have such frequest uploads of packages is that there's no repository | 05:15 |
| Riddell | I hope that'll get fixed soon | 05:15 |
| dato | I see | 05:15 |
| cmf|sleeps | hi agan | 05:19 |
| cmf|sleeps | i can't frigging sleep | 05:19 |
| cmf|sleeps | went to bed 4 hrs ago | 05:20 |
| lamont | kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics but it is not going to be installed | 05:26 |
| lamont | bummer about the livecd rootfs. | 05:26 |
| lamont | (ppc, at least) | 05:26 |
| Riddell | kdegraphics compiled at 04:01 says buildlogs | 05:28 |
| lamont | and the livecd built at 04:15 | 05:28 |
| lamont | which is to say, 18 minutes before kdegraphics entered the archive | 05:28 |
| lamont | well, s/entered/will enter/ :-) | 05:29 |
| lamont | Riddell: you want another livecd fs build on ppc once the archive snaps in a few minutes? | 05:30 |
| Riddell | I think I should upload this new kdeaddons too, it had a lot of missing files | 05:30 |
| lamont | I see. | 05:30 |
| Riddell | mdz: is that acceptable? | 05:31 |
| elmo | something's wanting to pull amarok-xine into main ... | 05:41 |
| Riddell | elmo: haggai added that as a depend on amarok today (better supported) | 05:41 |
| Riddell | kdeaddons uploaded, once that and amarok-xine are in we have a release | 05:50 |
| Riddell | haggai: have you got pitti to check over amarok-xine? | 05:50 |
| Riddell | python-kde3 being broken and random breakage of kdesu with kcontrol being largest problems, don't see either of those being solved | 05:51 |
| Riddell | would be nice to have rosegarden 1.0 in | 05:52 |
| Riddell | oh and what's the status of kdebluetooth haggai? | 05:52 |
| === Riddell beds | ||
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:mdz] : Release Candidate out | http://www.kubuntu.org/ | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu | No uploads to hoary/main without approval, ask mdz or Kamion | ||
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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Release Candidate out | http://www.kubuntu.org/ | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu | No uploads to hoary/main without approval, ask mdz or Kamion | ||
| === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by mdz at Wed Apr 6 06:17:37 2005 | ||
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| haggai | mdz: sorry about that, when I checked the deps I thought it would not affect anything else except the two amarok packages | 10:03 |
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| mdz | haggai: can you change it back? I don't want to do any more main<->universe migrations before the release | 10:22 |
| haggai | hmmkay | 10:29 |
| mdz | thanks | 10:57 |
| mdz | we'll be preparing candidates for the final release today | 10:57 |
| mdz | if there are any kubuntu show-stoppers, I need to know about them immediately | 10:58 |
| mdz | all uploads require manual approval now | 10:58 |
| haggai | mdz: linxine1 with mad code inside it | 10:58 |
| haggai | mdz: I'm almost done | 10:58 |
| amu | moin' | 10:58 |
| mdz | haggai: something other than amarok-xine uses libxine1 in kubuntu-desktop? | 10:59 |
| haggai | it did last time I looked | 10:59 |
| === haggai checks | ||
| mdz | kaffeine | 10:59 |
| haggai | right | 10:59 |
| mdz | haggai: what about #8681? | 11:02 |
| mdz | is it as bad as it looks? | 11:03 |
| haggai | it's pretty bad if it hits you | 11:05 |
| haggai | I can take a look at it today to see if I can find anything. | 11:06 |
| haggai | ttf / amu: can either of you reproduce #8681 reliably? | 11:06 |
| amu | haggai: nope, tested it yesterday night with the liveCD, *worksforme* | 11:11 |
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| Riddell | haggai: are we going to upload a new kde-i18n? | 12:55 |
| haggai | Riddell: we'll have to ask mdz | 12:59 |
| Riddell | of course, and someone with a fast connection since it's a very large package was a remember. any opinion mdz? | 01:03 |
| Riddell | haggai: how is kdebluetooth? | 01:03 |
| Kamion | mdz has gone to sleep | 01:35 |
| Riddell | bless him | 01:35 |
| Kamion | is the new kde-i18n just translation updates, nothing else? | 01:35 |
| Riddell | Kamion: just translation updates | 01:35 |
| Kamion | ok, please go ahead then, but do it quickly | 01:35 |
| Kamion | I want to build new images before mdz gets up again, if I can | 01:35 |
| haggai | Riddell: there were problems with the pin helper stuff last time I looked | 01:47 |
| Riddell | haggai: for what? | 01:49 |
| haggai | Riddell: as in, it didn't work | 01:49 |
| haggai | Riddell: (bluetooth) | 01:49 |
| Riddell | haggai: is pin helper stuff a debian packaging term or a technical bluetooth term? | 01:49 |
| haggai | Riddell: technical bluetooth. When the devices first connect you have to exchange a pin. This doesn't work unless you manually fiddle with config files | 01:50 |
| allee | Riddell: bt term | 01:50 |
| allee | haggai: did it work after you set the pin-helper to kblueping in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf? | 01:50 |
| allee | haggai: it worked for me (like in debian) | 01:51 |
| haggai | allee: yes | 01:51 |
| Riddell | ah well | 01:51 |
| haggai | but hcid.conf isn't a kubuntu package so we can't just patch the package | 01:52 |
| Riddell | kde-i18n is a large checkout | 01:52 |
| haggai | s/isn't a/isn't owned by/ | 01:52 |
| haggai | Riddell: yeah, I told you the diff was > 0.5 GB :) | 01:53 |
| Riddell | haggai: what's the best version number scheme for this? kde-i18n-3.4.0+cvs20050406 ? | 02:01 |
| haggai | Riddell: yup | 02:01 |
| Riddell | checkout has reached portugese | 02:02 |
| ttf | haggai: couldn't reproduce #8681 on the live CD - well - it doens't ask for the root password anyways | 02:17 |
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| haggai | Riddell: it is quite slow because make reads so many files | 02:57 |
| haggai | Riddell: it took a long time here too | 02:57 |
| Riddell | still running | 02:58 |
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| Riddell | I forgot the -sa for debuild -S | 03:23 |
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| Riddell | guess I have to start it all again | 03:23 |
| Riddell | haggai? | 03:23 |
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| Kamion | Riddell: you can use dpkg-genchanges -sa to fix up the .changes | 03:29 |
| Kamion | so 'dpkg-genchanges -sa -S > ../kde-i18n_whatever.changes | 03:29 |
| Kamion | ' | 03:29 |
| haggai | Riddell: ? | 03:31 |
| Riddell | Kamion: cool, thanks | 03:31 |
| Riddell | don't worry haggai, Kamion to the rescue | 03:31 |
| haggai | ah, thanks Kamion | 03:31 |
| Kamion | haggai: what's the status of this libxine thing mdz mailed me about? | 03:33 |
| Kamion | Riddell: I'd read the .changes afterwards if I were you though, to make sure it's sane | 03:34 |
| haggai | Kamion: I've been hacking out the libmad stuff. Need to fidlle with automake-generated makefiles so I'm merging the changes over by hand | 03:35 |
| Riddell | "Error while uploading kde-i18n_3.4.0+cvs20040506.orig.tar.gz" | 03:45 |
| Riddell | doesn't say what the error was or anything useful like that | 03:45 |
| Kamion | the .dsc is there, nothing else is | 03:46 |
| Riddell | yeah that uploaded | 03:46 |
| Kamion | I suspect you timed out or something; can you upload from a faster host? | 03:46 |
| Kamion | or point me to it and I'll upload it from chinstrap | 03:46 |
| Riddell | Kamion: http://jasmine.19inch.net/~jr/away/kubuntu/i18n/cvs/ | 03:47 |
| Kamion | ok, even dput from chinstrap doesn't like this, and there are no errors in poppy.log; wtf? | 04:00 |
| Kamion | I claim that dput sucks | 04:02 |
| Kamion | ... except that dupload breaks too | 04:05 |
| Kamion | I need elmo to repair this | 04:05 |
| Kamion | elmo: ping, when you wake up; poppy is being weird at me | 04:06 |
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| apokryphos | Has anyone registered these channels yet? That should probably be done... | 04:14 |
| haggai | apokryphos: I think I have them | 04:14 |
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| apokryphos | Ok, that's good to know (there was an idiot in the other day =) ). | 04:15 |
| haggai | yeah I noticed but was asleep at the time | 04:15 |
| Riddell | haggai: can you give me ops on them? just incase apokryphos's friend comes back | 04:15 |
| haggai | Riddell: yeah we need to try and cover all timezones | 04:15 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: hey, I already said he wasn't my friend :P | 04:15 |
| haggai | maybe I can do that without needing the pass | 04:15 |
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| Riddell | apokryphos: just send him to some elite warez channels next time, then he'll get DDoSed out of existance :) | 04:17 |
| haggai | 15:16 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- An access level of [30] is required for [ACCESS ADD] on #kubuntu | 04:17 |
| haggai | hmm | 04:17 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: hopefully he's forgotten about the name of the server ;). I plan on making him, erm, sorry :D if I see him again. | 04:18 |
| apokryphos | (he won't be coming back though, I'm pretty sure. Just in case.) | 04:18 |
| haggai | the channel is registered with daniels and he only gave me and amu level 29 | 04:19 |
| haggai | looks like this channel belongs to amu. Riddell I could give you 29 | 04:20 |
| Riddell | what does 29 allow me to do? | 04:22 |
| haggai | I think it allows you to use ops but not add anyone else to the op list | 04:25 |
| Riddell | oh that's fine | 04:27 |
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| cmf | Riddell: hi, remember what i was mentionening about media:/ entries and my ipod? | 04:34 |
| Riddell | cmf: yep | 04:35 |
| cmf | fixed it | 04:35 |
| Riddell | how so? | 04:35 |
| cmf | just need to get /media/$bla to be teh nevice name rather than nodename now | 04:36 |
| cmf | hal | 04:36 |
| Riddell | what did you have to fix? | 04:36 |
| cmf | 1 min | 04:37 |
| cmf | just borrowd my old storage-policy.fdi from arch linux | 04:37 |
| cmf | i was an arch dev, and did teh hal storage-policy customization for arch | 04:38 |
| Riddell | what needed changed? | 04:38 |
| cmf | not sure yet, havn't diffed it | 04:39 |
| Riddell | ah :) | 04:39 |
| Riddell | well you should report it on bugzilla | 04:39 |
| cmf | i've never used, diff before, how do i create a normal patch from it? itcurrently doing diff FILE1 FILE2 > storage-policy.diff | 04:44 |
| cmf | man page doesn't seem massive help | 04:44 |
| cmf | nm, got it, -Naur | 04:45 |
| Kamion | certainly always use diff -u at minimum | 04:52 |
| Kamion | how did you manage to develop a distribution and never use diff? :) | 04:54 |
| haggai | oh? which distro does he develop? :) | 04:56 |
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| Kamion | 15:38 < cmf> i was an arch dev, [...] | 04:56 |
| cmf | nah :P | 04:57 |
| cmf | i've moved over to kubuntu now, got tired of using a distro for power users more then desktop | 04:57 |
| cmf | i wanted stuff to just work | 04:57 |
| cmf | i did pkg maintainence, but never needed to create diff's | 04:58 |
| cmf | i maintained kde | 04:58 |
| Riddell | cmf: is there still someone maintaining KDE in arch linux? | 04:58 |
| cmf | yep | 04:58 |
| haggai | oh I see. Didn't arch only just do its first release? | 04:58 |
| Riddell | that's OK then :) | 04:58 |
| cmf | i handed it over a few months ago, i didn't have teh time | 04:58 |
| cmf | nope, it's up to 0.7 | 04:59 |
| Riddell | haggai: arch linux and ark linux very different | 04:59 |
| Kamion | I'm just slightly amazed at never needing to use diff, that's all - I use it hundreds of times a day | 04:59 |
| haggai | Riddell: ah there's my confusion thx :) | 04:59 |
| cmf | Kamion: lol :D | 04:59 |
| Riddell | ark linux being the result of red hat annoying it's KDE packager for years, I need to test it out | 04:59 |
| haggai | I was impressed that the ark OOo guy fearlessly turned on all the 64 bit patches | 05:00 |
| haggai | and then proceeded to add lots of fixes | 05:00 |
| cmf | ugh, samba is pissing me off | 05:01 |
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| Kamion | haggai: impressed or "impressed"? | 05:11 |
| haggai | Kamion: heh, in awe that he was 1)mad 2)a sucker or 3)had oodles of time | 05:12 |
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| Riddell | haggai: wouldn't they be required? why have patches that break things | 05:14 |
| haggai | Riddell: you obviously never looked at OOo and 64 bit :) The patches are just to make it compile. Runtime, well that's a different story. Unless you only want your OOo to run for less than 60 seconds | 05:16 |
| haggai | and then crash | 05:16 |
| Riddell | haggai: I've never had the privilage :) how did you get it to compile and run? | 05:17 |
| haggai | Kamion: my xine change for upload is this: http://halls.debian.net/~chris/kubuntu/xine-lib.debdiff | 05:17 |
| haggai | Riddell: I don't have 64 bit. The 64 bit ubuntu package is hacked together 32bit stuff | 05:17 |
| Riddell | ah, clever | 05:18 |
| Kamion | haggai: whyfor the libartsc0 removal from Suggests? otherwise looks fine | 05:19 |
| haggai | Kamion: once I fixed the shlibdeps script it started generating them all automatically. Um, I meant to show the debdiff of the debs too, hold on | 05:21 |
| haggai | Version: [-1.0-1ubuntu2-] {+1.0-1ubuntu3+} | 05:21 |
| haggai | Suggests: {+aalib1 (>= 1.2),+} libartsc0 {+(>= 1.3.2), libaudiofile0 (>= 0.2.3-4), libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.8.0), libesd0 (>= 0.2.29-1) | libesd-alsa0 (>= 0.2.29-1), libflac6, libgconf2-4 (>= 2.9), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0), libgnomevfs2-0 (>= 2.9.90), libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b), libncurses5 (>= 5.4-1), liborbit2 (>= 1:2.12.0), libsmbclient (>= 3.0.2a-1), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), slang1 (>> 1.4.9dbs-4)+} | 05:21 |
| haggai | Installed-Size: [-8848-] {+8760+} | 05:21 |
| Kamion | haggai: whoa, Suggests fun; but yes, go ahead and upload | 05:22 |
| haggai | Kamion: ok, thanks | 05:22 |
| Kamion | Riddell: kde-i18n uploaded properly now that jackass' little ENOSPC problem is sorted | 05:24 |
| haggai | hehe | 05:24 |
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| cmf | seems to be a problem with kaudiocreator and audiocd:/ kioslave | 05:27 |
| cmf | specifically, audiocd:/ isn't creating a audiocd:/WAV folder, and so kaudiocreator can't rip anything | 05:27 |
| uniq | cmf: hello, did you get my message? | 05:28 |
| cmf | nope | 05:28 |
| uniq | ok.. there are new packages at http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/ - i've fixed some versioning.. so you'll have to force the version. | 05:30 |
| uniq | apt-get install rosegarden4=1.0-1ubuntu0.2 | 05:30 |
| cmf | okies, i'll test in an hour or so, i have some stuff to do, thanks though | 05:30 |
| uniq | ok.. would be nice with a status repport :) | 05:30 |
| Riddell | Kamion: ok, now we just have to hope it compiles. what is Deir Yassin Day? | 05:31 |
| Riddell | what is ENOSPC? | 05:31 |
| Riddell | clipboard doing funny things there | 05:31 |
| haggai | no space :) | 05:33 |
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| Riddell | ah, kde-i18n can have that effect on you | 05:35 |
| uniq | riddell: if you get some free time, it'd be great if you could review my rosegarden4 package. | 05:53 |
| Riddell | uniq: good idea, what's the URL again? | 05:56 |
| uniq | http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/rosegarden4/ | 05:56 |
| uniq | deb http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/ ./ - should work. | 05:56 |
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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Release Candidate out | http://www.kubuntu.org/ | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu | No uploads to hoary/main without approval AND a damn good reason, ask mdz or Kamion | ||
| === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by mdz at Wed Apr 6 18:53:09 2005 | ||
| Riddell | novo doesn't allow cvs from it | 08:17 |
| haggai | you could have moved the source packages there | 08:18 |
| Riddell | yes, if I'd had time | 08:20 |
| haggai | hmm I get a ftbfs even earlier | 08:24 |
| haggai | ERROR:doc/kig/scripting-api/Doxyfile.scripting-api appears in configure files, but has no .in file | 08:24 |
| Riddell | time to give up? | 08:25 |
| lamont_r | kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics but it is not going to be installed | 08:27 |
| lamont_r | is that the expected current state ofthe livecd? (kde-i18n caused???) | 08:27 |
| mdz | lamont_r: all architectures? | 08:27 |
| lamont_r | that's ppc. i386 and amd64 pending | 08:28 |
| === lamont_r investigates the actual cause | ||
| mdz | lamont_r: does that mean the ubuntu rootfs builds are finished? | 08:28 |
| mdz | ah, apparently so (#u-d) | 08:28 |
| dato | (there was discussion on #d-d this morning about "stolen" changelog entries. seems amu keeps forgetting to do it right. zack said he'd pass by and mention, but I haven't seen him hear. if it was discussed on other channel, please excuse.) | 08:30 |
| dato | s/hear/here/ | 08:30 |
| lamont_r | strange. | 08:30 |
| lamont_r | mdz: yes, Kamion is building cdimages now, I expect | 08:30 |
| Kamion | Riddell: I don't much like the idea of releasing with source out of sync with binaries | 08:31 |
| lamont_r | mdz: that is, I know he knows they're done... | 08:31 |
| Kamion | yes | 08:31 |
| mdz | releasing with source out of sync is unacceptable; if it doesn't build, it needs to be reverted immediately | 08:31 |
| amu | dato: yes ... i'll go into prison because of it | 08:31 |
| mdz | or fixed, but that seems non-obvious at this point | 08:31 |
| lamont_r | so, um, never mind on that whole kubuntu-livecd-dies-in-kdegraphics thing. | 08:32 |
| dato | amu: mmm, if that means it was already solved, sorry for the noise. | 08:33 |
| haggai | sounds like we should revert | 08:33 |
| Riddell | dato: what was the problem package? | 08:34 |
| dato | Riddell: kaffeine (not mine) | 08:34 |
| Kamion | that kaffeine upload probably won't make it into hoary anyway | 08:35 |
| amu | Kamion: it was from 0.5 ... | 08:36 |
| amu | "* sync with debian" | 08:36 |
| Riddell | I can see the problem in that .po file and it could be easily fixed, which means another few hours or uploading and compiling | 08:36 |
| amu | and the funny things the guy took orig.tar.gz from ubuntu into debian | 08:37 |
| haggai | Riddell: it didnt' build on novo | 08:37 |
| Kamion | amu: for the same version number, taking the .orig.tar.gz is a perfectly reasonable thing to do, and avoids several problems | 08:38 |
| haggai | Riddell: see ~halls/packaging/kde-i18n/kde-i18n_3.4.0+cvs20040506-0ubuntu1_i386.build | 08:38 |
| Riddell | *** YOU'RE USING UNSERMAKE. | 08:38 |
| Riddell | *** GOOD LUCK!! :) | 08:38 |
| Riddell | the package wasn't made for unsermake | 08:38 |
| haggai | in that case it needs a build conflicts or for it to be turned off in the package | 08:39 |
| Kamion | I see, you forgot to create a new changelog entry to put the 'sync with debian' in | 08:39 |
| haggai | I have to go out for a few hours | 08:39 |
| Riddell | how do we decide between uploading again or reverting? | 08:40 |
| Kamion | that would depend on how sure you are that you have a simple fix that will build first time | 08:41 |
| Riddell | I'm sure the fix will work, the question is whether there are any other errors | 08:42 |
| Kamion | uploading again is cheaper in the sense that it won't involve a new .orig.tar.gz | 08:42 |
| Kamion | but riskier because this version has never been fully test-built (and thus, I assume, never tested otherwise) | 08:42 |
| amu | Kamion: nope, copied the debian changelogs added my changes, added a sync with debian. | 08:48 |
| amu | Guess the problem is, since ages there's a new debian version, the debian maintainer didnt take care about it, while i do. | 08:50 |
| Riddell | amu: what do you mean by the debian maintainer didnt take care about a new debian version? | 08:51 |
| amu | same with k3b. debian is 3 version behind | 08:54 |
| amu | Riddell: new upstream versions, but no new debs | 08:54 |
| Kamion | amu: correct way is copy Debian package, add a new changelog entry to the top with your change, if necessary use the -v option to dpkg-buildpackage to suck multiple changelog entries into your .changes | 08:55 |
| Kamion | anything else just confuses everyone | 08:55 |
| Kamion | including people like us who occasionally have to review changes and try to figure out what's going on | 08:56 |
| amu | good idea, multiple changelogs | 09:00 |
| Kamion | just follow the way Ubuntu developers are working | 09:04 |
| amu | sure, i'll take more time for it. | 09:06 |
| uniq | riddell: ok, should I change the version to ubuntu1, or does ubuntu0.3 do it? | 09:06 |
| Riddell | uniq: change it to ubuntu1 and remove the 0.x changelog entries | 09:08 |
| uniq | riddell: ok. | 09:09 |
| mdz | what is the status of the kde-i18n fix? | 09:11 |
| uniq | riddell: should i add some 'sync with debian' or something.. to do it 'the right way'? | 09:15 |
| uniq | to the changelog.. | 09:15 |
| Riddell | uniq: yes please, and make sure you've included all the changelog entries from debian | 09:16 |
| uniq | riddell:they are in. | 09:17 |
| Riddell | mdz: I'm running debuild -S (which takes about half an hour) and can upload (which takes longer). or you can tell us to give up and revert it | 09:17 |
| mdz | Riddell: the only way to revert is to upload | 09:18 |
| mdz | Riddell: you can prepare the upload on the porting machine if that would be faster for you | 09:18 |
| Riddell | mdz: to upload what? you can't upload older versions | 09:18 |
| mdz | Riddell: to upload a package with a version number greater than the existing one | 09:19 |
| mdz | we can't replace it with an older version | 09:19 |
| Riddell | right | 09:19 |
| Riddell | mdz: upload on the porting machine? | 09:19 |
| mdz | Riddell: yes, the machine at the data center where you all have logins | 09:21 |
| Riddell | there's no dput on novo, how can I upload? | 09:35 |
| uniq | riddell: http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/rosegarden4/ul/ - when you've got time. | 09:35 |
| Kamion | Riddell: lftp? | 09:38 |
| Riddell | I copied it over and uploaded | 09:41 |
| Riddell | uniq: "Add conflict with rosegarden2" there's no conflicts | 09:48 |
| mdz | has 4:3.4.0+cvs20040506-0ubuntu2 been test-built? | 09:51 |
| Riddell | mdz: alas no | 09:52 |
| mdz | ... | 09:52 |
| Riddell | nowhere to build it | 09:52 |
| mdz | my understanding is that you guys all have accounts on a fast machine with fast internet, hosted by us | 09:53 |
| mdz | with a dedicated chroot for kubuntu test builds | 09:53 |
| Riddell | yep, it's got unsermake on it and kde-i18n build conflicts with unsermake | 09:53 |
| mdz | the solution to that, assuming you don't have the necessary privileges, is to ask elmo | 09:54 |
| Riddell | elmo: could you remove unsermake from novo? | 09:54 |
| mdz | if this situation isn't resolved soon, we are going to have to postpone the kubuntu release; this is a serious problem | 09:54 |
| elmo | Riddell: done | 09:55 |
| Riddell | thanks | 09:55 |
| Riddell | elmo: can you install dput on novo with an ubuntu upload target | 10:13 |
| uniq | riddell: oh.. it is now. thanks for noticing.. had only updated the local control file.. not the remote.. :/ | 10:16 |
| elmo | Riddell: done | 10:24 |
| haggai | re | 10:25 |
| haggai | Riddell: how's it going with i18n? Anything I can do? | 10:26 |
| Riddell | haggai: prepare a revert package incase this one fails? | 10:28 |
| haggai | Riddell: righty | 10:28 |
| Riddell | not that I'm feeling pessimistic or anything | 10:29 |
| haggai | -3.4.0+cvs20040506.really.3.4.0 | 10:30 |
| haggai | I guess | 10:30 |
| Riddell | I was sure, would -3.4.0+orig20040506 work? | 10:31 |
| Riddell | s/was/wasn't/ | 10:31 |
| haggai | yes, but then you can't do any more +cvs versions | 10:32 |
| Riddell | hmm yes | 10:33 |
| mdz | it's that, or an epoch | 10:36 |
| haggai | I'd rather save the epoch | 10:36 |
| haggai | that makes life hard to keep in sync with debian | 10:37 |
| mdz | most of KDE has been through, what, 4 epochs already? what's one more? ;-) | 10:37 |
| haggai | lol | 10:37 |
| Riddell | uniq: what's your e-mail? not root@lnix.net I hope | 11:04 |
| === Riddell tracks down frode@lnix.net | ||
| Riddell | uniq: only other change needed is s/unstable/hoary/ in changelog | 11:08 |
| uniq | riddell: ok, i'll fix both. | 11:27 |
| dato | mdz: in fact, somebody jumped from 2: to 4: back in the ol' days | 11:31 |
| Riddell | dato: would that not be to sync the epocs across all the packages? | 11:33 |
| dato | I don't think so, no, but could be. I wasn't there ;-) | 11:34 |
| uniq | riddell: there.. mail and unstable/hoary fixed. | 11:35 |
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