[12:05] <motaboy> night all!
[12:05] <koke> night too :)
[12:06] <dholbach> bye moquist
[12:06] <dholbach> argl
[12:06] <dholbach> bye motaboy  :-)
[12:06] <dholbach> <--- too lazy
[12:06] <motaboy> :D
[12:08] <dholbach> *ARG* merging the UniversePriorityLists is a MAJOR pain
[12:08] <dholbach> *cry*
[12:09] <dholbach> ok.. i don't like it, who does it? ;-)
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[12:48] <dholbach> ok pals, i'm off to bed - good night
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[02:13] <crimsun> evening, tritium
[02:13] <tritium> hello, crimsun
[02:20] <tritium> be right back...
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[02:28] <crimsun> wb
[02:29] <tritium> Thanks.
[02:29] <tritium> I'm checking my aptitude logs to see what was installed today that could have blown away my custom hotplug blacklist and xorg.conf
[02:29] <crimsun> xorg -10
[02:29] <crimsun> don't think hotplug was updated
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[02:30] <tritium> I thought it was supposed to check md5sum, and not update it if it was edited
[02:30] <crimsun> that's what it does for me
[02:30] <tritium> Yeah, strange.  MIne was completely blown away, as was my blacklist.
[02:34] <tritium> crimsun, have you had a chance to review any of my packages?
[02:34] <crimsun> tritium: not yet, I'm working on test-building pike7.2 on amd64
[02:34] <crimsun> tritium: will look tonight
[02:34] <tritium> crimsun, thanks!
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[03:49] <tritium> ogra, is there any way I can help with the helpfile?
[03:49] <ogra> tritium, nope, i have the missing chapter in my head, but froud has the source....
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[03:50] <tritium> ogra, okay.  ping me if there's anything I can do
[03:51] <ogra> i'll do, thanks
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=== Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by ogra at Wed Mar 30 23:41:39 2005
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[09:37] <Kaloz> re
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[09:55] <dholbach> good morning!
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[10:19] <dholbach> morning d3vic3
[10:22] <d3vic3> morning dholbach
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[11:34] <Nafallo> ogra: ping?
[11:34] <dholbach> Nafallo: he went to bed like 5 hours ago
[11:34] <dholbach> how do you all feel towards universe at release?
[11:35] <Nafallo> dholbach: ahh, oki.
[11:35] <dholbach> anything you see we should fix at all costs?
[11:35] <dholbach> could you please all have a look at the lists or think of stuff we need to do? i lost track of it all in the apt-get.org/kernel haze
[11:36] <dholbach> i want to encourage each and everyone to make a last effort so we're in even better shape for release
[11:37] <dholbach> shall i start  wiki/UniverseLastMinuteFixes ?
[11:42] <dholbach> a thing we should make sure is that we get the packages in, that are lying around being ready (including NEW packages)
[11:43] <dholbach> so we could at least start some reviewing action
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[11:46] <dholbach> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniverseLastMinuteFixes
[11:47] <dholbach> be back in half an hour
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[12:26] <koke> <dholbach> shall i start  wiki/UniverseLastMinuteFixes ? <-- great idea :D
[12:27] <koke> I always have the same doubt: "half an hour" == 0.5h or 1.5h ??
[12:28] <Burgundavia> half an hour = 0.5
[12:28] <Mithrandir> unlike "half and an hour". :)
[12:28] <Mithrandir> or one-and-a-half
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[12:31] <koke> thanks, IRC and mailing lists are a great english course :D
[12:31] <koke> and of course documentation
[12:40] <dholbach> re
[12:41] <dholbach> koke: sorry... talked a bit longer to some dog owners about the latest dog-owning legislation :-)
[12:41] <dholbach> koke: or better: they talked longer to me :-)
[12:41] <siretart> hi folks
[12:41] <dholbach> hy siretart
[12:41] <dholbach> d3vic3: did the repartitioning work out?
[12:41] <siretart> dholbach: in the backlog I see you asked if there where some last minute fixes for universe pending.
[12:42] <dholbach> yeah or things we should focus on
[12:42] <dholbach> please put all of them on UniverseLastMinuteFixes - i'll feel better then :-)
[12:42] <siretart> dholbach: I really think some packages from MOTUToSync should be looked at
[12:43] <dholbach> siretart: i'll talk to elmo, since i have some kernel stuff he should sync too
[12:43] <siretart> but I don't have time today to ping elmo about that.. I'm at work right now
[12:43] <siretart> great! :)
[12:43] <dholbach> siretart: i'll now look over the kernel cruft in universe and hope he gets rid of all those as well
[12:44] <siretart> ok
[01:06] <dholbach> ha, www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MorgueCandidates looks CHARMING now ;-)
[01:06] <d3vic3> dholbach, yeah
[01:06] <d3vic3> I just have to fix my buildd now
[01:06] <dholbach> what's wrong with it?
[01:07] <dholbach> now i'll review the kernel-patch-CRACK packages briefly and hopefully chuck them out as well
[01:07] <d3vic3> broken
[01:07] <dholbach> argl - you use pbuilder?
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[01:17] <koke> brb
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[01:49] <dholbach> hey StoneTable
[01:50] <StoneTable> hey
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[02:35] <dholbach> ok... kernel-stuff is done
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[02:37] <dholbach> nobody put anything on  UniverseLastMinuteFixes ? woohoo! we're all set! we're done! YEEES! :-)
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[02:39] <dholbach> who is awaiting a review and upload of packages?
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[02:54] <kiko> hey there
[02:54] <kiko> ogra, dholbach: yo
[02:54] <dholbach> hey kiko
[02:54] <dholbach> kiko: i hope ogra is still fast asleep :-)
[02:54] <kiko> how goes it in the universe?
[02:54] <kiko> heh
[02:54] <kiko> feeling the release crush :)
[02:55] <dholbach> kiko: i went through my tasks but now have to get the general overview of things that are still broken
[02:55] <kiko> I have a special request for you
[02:55] <dholbach> fire away
[02:56] <kiko> would it be possible for you to arrange the motu to produce a top-20 wishlist of features and changes to malone?
[02:56] <dholbach> i'd be glad to do that in 2 days
[02:56] <dholbach> koke had a couple of ideas, like middle clicking and such
[02:57] <dholbach> hrmbl, he's not there atm
[02:57] <kiko> that's fine, I don't want to block on these
[02:58] <kiko> how does a MaloneUniverseWishList wikipage sound?
[02:58] <bradb> dholbach: that's the only thing he suggested to me, so i fixed it :)
[02:58] <dholbach> bradb: cool
[02:58] <dholbach> kiko: super
[02:58] <dholbach> i'll keep pushing the guys towards it
[02:59] <kiko> dholbach, 48h a reasonable expectation?
[02:59] <kiko> bradb, can you paste in a link so we can /topic it perhaps?
[02:59] <bradb> kiko: the link to...?
[03:00] <kiko> bradb, to a wiki page for your wishlist.
[03:00] <dholbach> shall i create that page for now?
[03:00] <bradb> you guys have a cert for the LP wiki?
[03:00] <dholbach> didnt even know there was a LP wiki
[03:01] <bradb> kiko: i assumed you wanted this page created in the LP wiki
[03:01] <dholbach> is it ok to have it at wiki.ubuntu.com/MaloneUniverseWishList
[03:01] <kiko> bradb, why not put it in a wiki that's convenient for them?
[03:01] <dholbach> ?
[03:01] <kiko> dholbach, yes, that's perfect.
[03:01] <dholbach> alright
[03:01] <kiko> thanks!
[03:02] <dholbach> a thing i'd like is to have group-assigned tasks on my "assigned"-page as well
[03:02] <dholbach> since most of the tasks will be assigned to MOTU
[03:02] <dholbach> or would that be too complicated to achieve?
[03:02] <kiko> dholbach, interesting
[03:03] <kiko> nothing is too complicated ;)
[03:03] <dholbach> hahah... even better
[03:03] <kiko> put it on the wiki, we'll knock them off.
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[03:09] <dholbach> kiko: done
[03:09] <bradb> dholbach: thanks
[03:09] <dholbach> anytime :-)
[03:11] <dholbach> i'll take a nap - see you later
[03:11] <kiko> thanks!
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[03:20] <d3vic3> ajmitch, ping
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[03:28] <GheRivero> res
[03:52] <crimsun> hi
[03:54] <crimsun> hmm, malone still goes boom when I try to assign a bug to myself
[03:54] <tritium> Good morning, crimsun
[03:54] <crimsun> morning, tritium
[03:55] <crimsun> oh my, we have a UniverseLastMinuteFixes :-)
[03:56] <tritium> checking...
[03:59] <tritium> yay, I'm glad to see NewPackages on there :)
[03:59] <crimsun> ok, time for SpeedReview
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[04:11] <tritium> Hi ogra.
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[04:28] <d3vic3> doko, ping
[04:29] <doko> d3vic3: pong
[04:30] <d3vic3> doko, hi
[04:30] <d3vic3> doko: dzhandle doesn't work it python-twisted in not installed
[04:31] <doko> ugh, why?
[04:31] <d3vic3> but zope doen't depend on python-twisted
[04:31] <d3vic3> it gives an error about shutil module not being found
[04:32] <d3vic3> dpkg shows shutil.py to in be twisted, so I installed twisted and it worked
[04:37] <doko> $ dlocate shutil.py
[04:37] <doko> python2.4: /usr/lib/python2.4/shutil.py
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[04:50] <d3vic3> O.o
[04:51] <d3vic3> doko, ok then, zope must depend on python2.4
[04:52] <d3vic3> or something
[04:58] <doko> $ dlocate python2.3/shutil.py
[04:58] <doko> python2.3: /usr/lib/python2.3/shutil.py
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=== Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by dholbach at Wed Apr  6 15:08:09 2005
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[08:20] <diamond> lo folks
[08:21] <dholbach> hey diamond, oregano build failed
[08:21] <dholbach> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/o/oregano/0.40.0-3
[08:25] <diamond> dholbach: *nod* working on it now
[08:25] <dholbach> ok
[08:39] <diamond> hum. looks like oregano want's gnome1.0 headers. wrong. bad and wrong.
[08:39] <herve> --> morgue
[08:39] <herve> :-p
[08:39] <herve> hi diamond
[08:39] <diamond> herve: hey
[08:40] <diamond> wait. i'm wrong. found what i need in gnome2
[08:42] <diamond> nur. i'll fix it later. now, cinema. -)
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[09:21] <dholbach> would anybody of you mind doing some reviews?
[09:22] <herve> yes :p
[09:22] <herve> no... I'll do some
[09:22] <herve> but I need to get to bed early
[09:23] <dholbach> herve: i didnt only talk to you, but thanks for your offer :_)
[09:24] <herve> you're welcome ;)-
[09:25] <dholbach> i know that mdz already told us, we were in great shape for release, but i know we can do better and we *will* be able to fix some stuff :-)
[09:26] <herve> I wish I could do even better
[09:26] <herve> hmm...
[09:26] <herve> what's to be done precisely?
[09:26] <dholbach> herve: lots of fixes have you name on already :-)
[09:27] <dholbach> we have millions of lists with stuff on them
[09:27] <herve> that's the point
[09:27] <dholbach> we have lists of fixed packages that could be uploaded
[09:28] <dholbach> we need to gather information on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseLastMinuteFixes to coordinate our last efforts
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[09:29] <herve> sorry for them
[09:29] <herve> but NEW packages are to be forgotten then
[09:29] <ACIDnet> hey
[09:29] <tritium> herve, why?
[09:29] <dholbach> hey ACIDnet
[09:30] <siretart> dholbach: pong
[09:30] <herve> tritium, fixing existing packages or introducing new ones? what's the priority?
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[09:30] <dholbach> siretart: what about hping3? can the ubuntu changes be superseded by the sid package?
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[09:31] <dholbach> siretart: oh ... ok
[09:31] <siretart> uhh. just a minute, gotta look
[09:31] <Ben2004uk> hey
[09:31] <dholbach> hey Ben2004uk
[09:32] <Ben2004uk> hey
[09:32] <dholbach> Ben2004uk: we have quite a lot of stuff to be done on (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo), just grab whatever you think you can fix ;-)
[09:32] <dholbach> (and on the sites linked from there)
[09:32] <tritium> herve, so you're saying they should be removed from UniverseLastMinuteFixes?
[09:33] <siretart> dholbach: yeah, now I remember
[09:33] <dholbach> tritium, herve: don't think so, we should review and get in, what we can - some are in excellent shape
[09:33] <siretart> dholbach: the new debian version does a much better job for solving the problem, which is done in the ubuntu changes
[09:33] <herve> tritium, I just say I can't handle both
[09:34] <siretart> dholbach: I very sure that uploading the debian source package should be enough
[09:34] <dholbach> alright
[09:34] <dholbach> was from sid, right?
[09:34] <herve> good, lists.ubuntu.com doesn't respond... gniiiii!
[09:34] <siretart> dholbach: the new debian source throws the old static list of architectures and their endianess away and uses instead /usr/include/endian.h
[09:35] <dholbach> siretart: it was the sid version? i just trust your judgement on it :-)
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[09:36] <siretart> dholbach: http://changelogs.debian.net/hping3 - version 3.a2.ds1-1 is needed (latest)
[09:36] <dholbach> siretart: syncs have to "belong" to someone, you requested the syncs, so they have your name on them
[09:36] <tritium> herve, well, it will also be a challenge for the packagers too
[09:36] <siretart> dholbach: ah, thats a great feature! :)
[09:36] <herve> tseng, ping
[09:36] <siretart> dholbach: this means I was added to the whitelist, no?
[09:36] <dholbach> siretart: elmo needs to know which "distribution release" it is in, so sid/sarge/...
[09:36] <dholbach> seems so :-)
[09:37] <siretart> dholbach: hping3 has the latest version in sid, so I think it shouldn't matter
[09:37] <dholbach> yes
[09:37] <siretart> argh
[09:37] <siretart> sarge
[09:37] <dholbach> told elmo
[09:38] <herve> er... dholbach, I guess tseng already has upload right?
[09:38] <dholbach> herve: not sure
[09:38] <dholbach> herve: what about yours? *nag*
[09:38] <dholbach> ;-)
[09:38] <dholbach> nevermind me
[09:38] <herve> don't remind me :-/
[09:39] <herve> koke does for sure
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[09:39] <herve> wine case is special, leaving it
[09:40] <herve> or on the opposite
[09:40] <herve> who is waiting for a review?
[09:41] <tritium> herve, me, for one
[09:41] <crimsun> are you taking care of lxdoom et al.?
[09:41] <crimsun> ^ siretart
[09:41] <herve> tritium, ?
[09:42] <tritium> herve, what?
[09:42] <siretart> crimsun: will do. is there work to do?
[09:42] <herve> tritium, state it :-)
[09:42] <crimsun> siretart: that's what I'm asking.
[09:42] <tritium> herve, my package review request has been posted on NewPackages since early March ;)
[09:42] <siretart> crimsun: I fixed it for amd64, I check if it got uploaded yet
[09:42] <herve> siretart, some package to review/upload?
[09:42] <siretart> just a mom
[09:43] <crimsun> nope, 1.4.4-9 still in pool
[09:43] <siretart> oh, sorry, indeed: http://siretart.tauware.de/ubuntu-packages/lxdoom/
[09:43] <siretart> I'll check further
[09:43] <herve> tritium, it was already uploaded?
[09:44] <tritium> herve, no, awaiting review
[09:44] <siretart> no, just lxdoom I think
[09:44] <herve> tritium, I'm not "motu enough" for such tasks
[09:44] <crimsun> tritium: did you make those adjustments I suggested?
[09:44] <herve> who is Corey Burger?
[09:45] <tritium> crimsun, yes
[09:45] <dholbach> herve: burgundavia
[09:45] <tritium> herve, no problem -- thanks.
[09:45] <dholbach> i think we can bend the motu-enough rules for the last 24+ hours
[09:45] <crimsun> tritium: k, I'll look.
[09:45] <tritium> crimsun, thanks.
[09:45] <dholbach> reviews from core-helpers are good enough, but be picky :-)
[09:45] <crimsun> (waiting on the machine)
[09:45] <herve> which is not here... thanks dholbach
[09:46] <dholbach> i'll look after matrem to close UniverseXorgBuildProblems
[09:47] <herve> er...
[09:47] <herve> there still were problems on it?
[09:47] <tritium> crimsun, waiting on my repository server?
[09:47] <dholbach> i think so
[09:47] <crimsun> tritium: at that moment, yes. It's pbuilding now.
[09:47] <tritium> crimsun, ok, but you can reach it okay?
[09:47] <dholbach> herzi's hula-server packages are packaged superbly, it just doesnt run on my box, or i'm too dumb to get it working
[09:48] <crimsun> tritium: yep
[09:48] <herve> an easy one: who is Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro?
[09:48] <crimsun> trulux
[09:48] <tritium> crimsun, great, thanks for your reviews.  I appreciate it -- quite a bit.
[09:48] <crimsun> tritium: np
[09:48] <dholbach> ah... leave the security stuff for now, i guess we're not clever enough to judge it :-)
[09:48] <herve> trulux, ping
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[09:48] <trulux> herve: what do you want for that wimp? ;D
[09:49] <crimsun> dholbach: that and it touches stuff in main, like pam
[09:49] <dholbach> pitti or somebody else should look at it
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[09:49] <dholbach> yeah, leave it for now
[09:49] <herve> trulux, er... anyway, any package to review&upload?
[09:49] <dholbach> hey StoneTable
[09:49] <StoneTable> howdy dholbach
[09:49] <trulux> herve: libssp ones, just lemme update and upload them to pearls.tuxedo-es.org
[09:50] <trulux> herve: selinux-support might be good, but these packages should get in Breezy's main
[09:50] <herve> trulux, too big for me I guess :-)
[09:50] <trulux> herve: libssp?
[09:50] <herve> StoneTable, heya! any package to review before it's too late?
[09:51] <herve> trulux, will try
[09:51] <tritium> crimsun, may I query?
[09:51] <crimsun> tritium: sure
[09:51] <StoneTable> herve:  nope, I'm all set right now
[09:51] <herve> Phython, ping
[09:51] <trulux> herve: ok, lemme update them
[09:51] <trulux> it will take just a little while
[09:52] <herve> StoneTable, then please update MOTUTodo, thanks :-)
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[09:53] <StoneTable> oops, missed that one :)  I think I updated UniversePriorityList and forgot that one
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[09:53] <dholbach> StoneTable, herve: might have been the wiki fuckup
[09:54] <herve> dholbach, could you prepare for two, please? :-)
[09:54] <dholbach> herve: of course :-)
[09:55] <herve> without water for me
[09:55] <dholbach> hahaha
[09:55] <StoneTable> updated :)
[09:55] <herve> just swallowing the leaves :)-
[09:55] <herve> StoneTable, thanks!
[09:55] <StoneTable> np :)
[09:55] <StoneTable> Mmmm.. tea. I just finished 64oz of tea.
[09:56] <herve> StoneTable, keep the credit you deserve, move them to the "Done" section
[09:56] <herve> haaa... metric system... :-p
[09:56] <StoneTable> oh, okay :)  I'll learn one of these days ;)
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[09:58] <herve> siretart, re, please check if you still have packages to be reviewed&uploaded
[09:58] <siretart> herve: no, lxdoom seems to be the last one
[09:59] <siretart> herve: I'm double checking it
[10:00] <siretart> hm. I have a swt-motif source package here, but it seems it did not make it into the archive? (not a very important package though)
[10:00] <herve> motif? sure not :-p
[10:00] <siretart> ;)
[10:01] <StoneTable> I do need to confirm that libapache2-mod-ldap-user got synced.  I put it on the list but I haven't talk to elmo yet
[10:01] <dholbach> ha... somebody just removed UniverseXorgBuildProblems ? :-)
[10:01] <dholbach> StoneTable: got synced
[10:01] <herve> StoneTable, ...
[10:01] <herve> dholbach, no idea who!
[10:01] <dholbach> StoneTable: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html always knows
[10:01] <StoneTable> dholbach:  okay, cool
[10:01] <herve> argh!
[10:01] <dholbach> herve: whats up?
[10:01] <herve> you beat me!
[10:01] <StoneTable> thanks :)
[10:01] <herve> I didn't even have time to check the changes list
[10:02] <dholbach> i let elmo sync them today
[10:03] <herve> I'll check those bugzilla bugs meanwhile
[10:05] <jbailey> ajmitch, ajmitch_: You awake yet? =)
[10:05] <bddebian> heh
[10:06] <herve> I have an easy one for people knowing pbuilder and have a more efficient machine than mine
[10:06] <herve> hi jbailey !
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[10:06] <dholbach> hey sivang!
[10:06] <herve> hi sivang
[10:06] <jbailey> Heya herv!
[10:07] <herve> ogra, ping
[10:07] <herve> no, I won't review ogra's packages :-)
[10:08] <ogra> herve, you wouldnt like them i guess ;)
[10:09] <herve> well, in a way, I reviewed your xml :-)
[10:09] <herve> ogra, just... you uploaded a new version of graveman, do you think it would have solved https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8369 ?
[10:10] <ogra> herve, i synced it from sid...
[10:10] <herve> trulux, you're still with us? :-)
[10:10] <trulux> herve: of course
[10:10] <trulux> going to uplaod the pkgs
[10:10] <herve> ogra, argh, you don't know graveman by adam nor eve...
[10:11] <herve> I'll launch a pbuild of fwbuilder meanwhile
[10:13] <herve> [correction]  read: I'll create a pbuilder, which will take ages... gniiiii!
[10:14] <ogra> herve, i can look at it, but currently i'm doing stuff for main rather...
[10:14] <herve> ogra, forget about it
[10:15] <ajmitch> jbailey: just crawled out of bed :)
[10:16] <herve> I don't think we can make wonders with netapplet in the following hours...
[10:18] <bddebian> ajmitch: Lazy bum. ;-)
[10:18] <ajmitch> it's only just after 8am :P
[10:18] <herve> hey! sarge is close to below 100 rc bugs! best wishes to them
[10:18] <ajmitch> herve: sarge is releasing soon, you know..
[10:18] <herve> ho yes
[10:19] <herve> I was yelled by customers still wanting stable on their servers, but I put sarge
[10:19] <herve> I bet with them sarge will be release before the project is over
[10:19] <Treenaks> ajmitch: yeah.. they've been saying that since september 2004
[10:19] <Treenaks> ajmitch: uh.. 2003
[10:20] <dholbach> i'll take care of malone 323
[10:20] <ajmitch> Treenaks: sure, but they really really mean it this time  ;)
[10:20] <herve> dholbach, url?
[10:20] <herve> ajmitch, don't reply to gratuitous provocation :-)
[10:21] <dholbach> ree
[10:21] <dholbach> oops
[10:21] <dholbach> 322
[10:21] <dholbach> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/tasks/323/+edit
[10:21] <dholbach> trivial change
[10:22] <herve> dholbach president!
[10:22] <herve> I'm just having to do the same fix to another package!
[10:23] <herve> solfege, namely
[10:24] <jbailey> ajmitch: Sorry, lagging from phone.
[10:26] <herve> someone could fetch latest fwbuilder from debian and pbuild it?
[10:26] <herve> someone with a *real* net connection and a *real* cpu I mean :-)
[10:26] <ajmitch> ok :)
[10:27] <bddebian> ajmitch: I have Ubuntu on your laptop now. :-)
[10:27] <ajmitch> bddebian: heh ok
[10:28] <herve> what the... mess have they done with links on malone??
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[10:34] <herve> hi GheRivero
[10:36] <herve> am I supposed to reply to universe bugs in bugzilla?
[10:36] <dholbach> i hope we will have them all chucked out/solved soon
[10:37] <herve> one is on its way
[10:38] <herve> hu... good one, you manage not to answer my question :-)
[10:38] <trulux> herve: just finished the packages, wait until pearls rsyncs
[10:39] <herve> great, I'm close to be done with solfese
[10:39] <herve> solfege...
[10:39] <GheRivero> hi! how can i suggest the inclusion of one package on motu? (or to take care of it?)
[10:40] <dholbach> GheRivero: was that package already made?
[10:40] <herve> dholbach, said differently, I don't have to add "Closes: #7913" in my changelog?
[10:40] <dholbach> herve: it is nice to do that
[10:41] <GheRivero> libnfsidmap - An nfs idmapping library, it's on Debian an i need it for NFSv4 for Ubuntu
[10:41] <dholbach> GheRivero: does it exist already?
[10:42] <GheRivero> in debian yes, both testing an unstable
[10:43] <herve> strange it's not there then
[10:44] <GheRivero> that's why i'm asking
[10:45] <herve> GheRivero, you're sure about the name?
[10:45] <herve> ha ok
[10:46] <herve> looking into source packages is more efficient :-)
[10:46] <herve> dholbach, it's a rather important package
[10:46] <GheRivero> not so important at the moment
[10:47] <GheRivero> since no nfsv4 support is included on hoary
[10:47] <herve> I mean, it's of prioty standard for debian
[10:47] <herve> ha ok
[10:47] <GheRivero> that's way yes
[10:47] <herve> GheRivero, you could (p)build it for hoary?
[10:47] <dholbach> herve: what do you want me to do?
[10:47] <jbailey> ajmitch: Sorry 'bout that.  I'm hacking together bits for breezy glibc.  Got anything you want out of the gate for selinux?
[10:48] <herve> dholbach, I was about to say #u-d would know, but GheRivero told me ubuntu has no nfsv4 support
[10:48] <bddebian> jbailey: Can you add sysv shm and sem for Hurd for me?? ;-)
[10:48] <GheRivero> herve, give a minute...
[10:49] <dholbach> ok, so i dont have to do anything?
[10:49] <jbailey> bddebian: What?
[10:49] <herve> GheRivero, but er... is nfs4 in hoary, anyway? :-)
[10:49] <GheRivero> herve, there is no nfsv4 support but i'm working on it for hoary+1
[10:50] <jbailey> herve: I think the kernel has the NFS4 bits, but I don't know how it gets the auth information.
[10:50] <GheRivero> the kernel has all the stuff needed
[10:50] <jbailey> herve: Since we've standardised on MIT krb5, it ought to be possible to make it happen.
[10:50] <GheRivero> but not acl, nfs-utils & linux-utils
[10:50] <jbailey> Ah, hm...
[10:50] <herve> thanks all
[10:50] <herve> GheRivero, my opinion is that it's too late for hoary :-p
[10:51] <GheRivero> yes i now...
[10:51] <jbailey> Right, I mean make it happen at all when I say 'make it happen' above. =)
[10:51] <GheRivero> but i would like to start to work for hoary +1 as soon as possible...
[10:52] <herve> GheRivero, you're welcome but it's not opened yet
[10:52] <herve> anyway, why do I give my opinion on things that big...
[10:53] <dholbach> HA, hula runs! ;-)
[10:54] <GheRivero> herve, it pbuilds on hoary
[10:54] <herve> good ping
[10:55] <herve> ???
[10:55] <herve> point...
[10:55] <herve> I go get my pillow :-)
[10:56] <herve> dholbach, or another reviewer/uploader, I have a... fun one for you :-)
[10:56] <trulux> herve: finished: http://pearls.tuxedo-es.org/libssp/debian/
[10:56] <trulux> enjoy ;)
[10:56] <trulux> I will announce the tomorrow
[10:56] <trulux> now I need to sleep
[10:56] <herve> er...
[10:56] <herve> me too
[10:56] <herve> that's the point ;-)
[10:56] <trulux> too much kernel hscking today
[10:56] <trulux> good night to all
[10:57] <trulux> and sweet dreams
[10:57] <trulux> :D
[10:57] <herve> night!
[10:57] <herve> pbuild failed... yoohoo!
[10:57] <dholbach> herve: fire away
[10:57] <herve> I say good night too
[10:58] <dholbach> erm
[10:58] <herve> dholbach, http://deb.oursours.net/motu/pending (solfege)
[10:58] <dholbach> herve: alright
[10:58] <dholbach> will do
[10:58] <herve> I let you enjoy the debdiff :-)
[10:58] <dholbach> herve: thanks for your work and good night
[10:58] <dholbach> :-)
[11:01] <dholbach> could somebody please join me in reviewing hula-server?
[11:02] <crimsun> sure, I'm finishing up tritium's repo
[11:04] <dholbach> alright
[11:06] <dholbach> herve's solfege uploaded
[11:08] <Phython> I was pinged, any one around who did it?
[11:09] <dholbach> herve has just left the building
[11:09] <dholbach> erm... :-)
[11:09] <dholbach> i guess he was about to ask you about your packages and inclusion for the release
[11:10] <dholbach> but i can't tell
[11:16] <ajmitch> jbailey: I'm not aware of glibc changes that need to be made
[11:19] <dholbach> bradb: i can't mark a bug as "fixed" nor assign it to motu
[11:20] <bradb> dholbach: if by "can't" you mean that an exception is raised, that bug should be fixed on Monday when stub rolls out a new version into production.
[11:20] <bradb> dholbach: what's the bug URL?
[11:21] <dholbach> bradb: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/tasks/323/+edit
[11:21] <dholbach> bradb: and the fonts could be a bit smaller ;-)
[11:22] <dholbach> but i won't complain :-)
[11:22] <bradb> dholbach: there was a massive UI makeover recently which i had this much -><- to do with :)
[11:22] <dholbach> ok, i see :-)
[11:23] <dholbach> you're serving as proxy and get the stick for others - hmmm, doesnt seem to be fair :-)
[11:23] <bradb> dholbach: and yes, i expect that bugs that have no maintainers (e.g. the maintainer list is empty in the "related people" portlet) will raise an exception trying to edit them. :/ i committed the fix already, but there's generally a lag of a few days before fixes hit production. stub said he'll do a prod rollout again after the weekend (i.e. on Monday)
[11:23] <dholbach> bradb: ok, after release we'll be able to test it more thoroughly
[11:24] <bradb> dholbach: /maybe/ i can swing around a prod rollout tonight, but i can't make any promises on that, to say the least
[11:24] <bradb> i'll put my stub mind-control techniques to the test, if i see him around before i call it a day
[11:25] <dholbach> alright... don't worry - i'll really enjoy malone, but not until the release is done :-)
[11:26] <bradb> hehe, i understand, no worries :)
[11:26] <dholbach> ok :-)
[11:26] <dholbach> siretart: was everything alright with lxdoom? was it uploaded?
[11:26] <tseng> who wants to hear a crazy story?
[11:27] <dholbach> tseng: fire away
[11:27] <tseng> so at work we have a huge network
[11:27] <tseng> and sites in a bunch of states in the us
[11:27] <tseng> at each site, on each network segment we have a linux box
[11:27] <siretart> dholbach: lxdoom is still waiting for beeing uploaded, if cro
[11:27] <tseng> with ethereal, for sniffing traffic (debugging)
[11:27] <siretart> if crimsun didn't upload it before
[11:28] <tseng> when we run the one in arizona over ssh -X
[11:28] <crimsun> siretart: nope, I thought you had upload prvis
[11:28] <tseng> its slow as hell in windows
[11:28] <crimsun> privs^
[11:28] <tseng> and on my bosses fedora box
[11:28] <siretart> dholbach: I fixed the ftbfs on amd64, this was the crazy ld segfaulting
[11:28] <tseng> on my ubuntu box in vmware, its fast
[11:28] <tseng> its also fast on my vmware fedora
[11:28] <tseng> slow on our gentoo box
[11:28] <siretart> crimsun: oh, sorry for the misunderstanding, I don't have upload privileges.
[11:28] <dholbach> :-)))))))
[11:28] <tseng> weirdest!
[11:29] <dholbach> siretart: will look - so it's ready? just upload?
[11:29] <siretart> dholbach: http://siretart.tauware.de/ubuntu-packages/lxdoom/ ready for review/upload :)
[11:29] <jbailey> Anyone here have a fedora core 4 system handy?
[11:31] <dholbach> siretart: testbuilding
[11:33] <siretart> :) - the buildlogs from the testbuild look very scary
[11:33] <dholbach> builds here
[11:33] <dholbach> uploading
[11:37] <siretart> w00t. katie send me email :)
[11:38] <dholbach> :-)))
[11:39] <dholbach> just looking over UniversePriorityList
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[11:40] <dholbach> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/e/echoping/5.2.0-2/ - (on powerpc) should be tackled by a dpatch with "automake --force --add-missing"-run
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[11:50] <dholbach> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/l/luxman <- should be easy to fix as well - replacing "xargs -0" with "xargs -r0" somewhere in debian/ should fix it (i386 only)
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[11:52] <dholbach> hey Burgundavia
[11:52] <Burgundavia> salut
[11:56] <dholbach> i take care of rafkill
[11:56] <virgiln> If I want to *convert* a debian package to ubuntu, what do I need to do to it?
[11:57] <virgiln> is it best to totally recompile it, etc... or can I mess with the debian package?
[11:57] <dholbach> and pspresent
[11:58] <dholbach> virgiln: recompiling with pbuilder (wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto) should make it easy and show potential pitfalls
[11:58] <dholbach> i take care of pspresent
[11:59] <virgiln> dholbach: ok, thanks
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[11:59] <herzi> re
[11:59] <dholbach> hey herzi
[11:59] <herzi> dholbach: fixing the last issue now
[11:59] <dholbach> ROCK!
[11:59] <herzi> and ther version number (0.1.0) is the one from configure.in
[11:59] <dholbach> it already ran at my placve
[12:00] <dholbach> place
[12:00] <dholbach> should be the one they next release with
[12:00] <dholbach> maybe ask on #hula
[12:00] <herzi> the next (==first) one will be 1.0