| herzi | we only have svn snapshots until then | 12:01 |
|---|---|---|
| === herzi is alreday on #hula :) | ||
| herzi | dholbach: just adding /var/netmail and /var/mdb to hula-manager.install should be sufficient, shouldn't it? | 12:03 |
| dholbach | don't think so - i'd create them to be sure | 12:03 |
| dholbach | *shrug* | 12:03 |
| herzi | okay, got it in postinst now | 12:15 |
| dholbach | rock | 12:15 |
| dholbach | apart from the manpage warnings, NICE WORK! | 12:15 |
| dholbach | applause for herzi! | 12:15 |
| ogra | yeah | 12:15 |
| dholbach | so please give it some review love | 12:16 |
| dholbach | and get it in hoary! WOOHOO! | 12:16 |
| dholbach | i take care of terminatorx | 12:18 |
| Burgundavia | is that the sound of hedgehogs using a hula? | 12:18 |
| dholbach | and wmressel | 12:19 |
| whiprush | nice job herzi! | 12:23 |
| === koke [~koke@rm-001-26.serve.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| koke | Hi all! | 12:24 |
| dholbach | hey koke | 12:24 |
| koke | hi dholbach , the non-stop guy :) | 12:24 |
| koke | you just 0wned hoary-changes :P | 12:25 |
| dholbach | well... we want hoary to rock, right? | 12:25 |
| koke | yeah! | 12:26 |
| koke | I'm reading my acummulated mail now :/ | 12:26 |
| dholbach | koke: let someone else read your mail, fix some3 packages instead :-) | 12:27 |
| koke | heeh | 12:32 |
| koke | shit! mail grows faster than I read... :/ | 12:35 |
| dholbach | i take care of wmtv | 12:35 |
| koke | I need a smart mail client with "the" feature... 'Mark all the useless mails as read and show me only what I want to read now...' | 12:35 |
| === koke just closed mutt... universe time :) | ||
| === azeem_ [~mbanck@ppp-82-135-65-251.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| azeem_ | anybody up for syncing sbuild 0.35 from unstable->hoary? It removes the "Distribution must be one of stable, testing or unstable, kthxbye" check and should work better on Ubuntu... | 12:40 |
| dholbach | azeem_: if you say it builds and works fine, would you please add it wo wiki/MOTUToSync? | 12:41 |
| azeem_ | I'm pretty sure I added it to that page two or three days ago, but it disappeared (or I got the wrong page) | 12:46 |
| dholbach | azeem_: no... we experienced a HUGE wiki fuckup | 12:47 |
| azeem_ | ah | 12:48 |
| azeem_ | well, I'll readd it then | 12:48 |
| tseng | why do we keep having wiki fuckups | 12:48 |
| tseng | out of curiosity | 12:49 |
| tseng | the first one was "omg this wiki sucks lets change it all" | 12:49 |
| dholbach | i think we'll change the wiki soon again | 12:49 |
| tseng | wtf. | 12:49 |
| === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| azeem_ | done | 12:52 |
| === azeem_ [~mbanck@ppp-82-135-65-251.mnet-online.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] | ||
| koke | hey, an unresolved pythonTransition one... | 12:54 |
| dholbach | will take care of wmxres | 12:54 |
| === koke going for spambayes... | ||
| dholbach | and bbdate | 12:54 |
| koke | hey, gcompris is built on debian (6.5.2-2) | 12:58 |
| koke | should I request a sync? | 12:58 |
| dholbach | koke: herve tried it, it's still crap :-( | 12:59 |
| === amu_ [~amu@dump.mediaways.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | i take dvr | 01:08 |
| schweeb | ugh | 01:12 |
| === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-229-188-97.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === schweeb waves hi to the channel | ||
| schweeb | been to busy lately | 01:14 |
| dholbach | hey schweeb | 01:14 |
| dholbach | i took care of the kernel stuff already | 01:14 |
| schweeb | oh good | 01:14 |
| schweeb | was about to ask that | 01:14 |
| schweeb | is it all fixed? | 01:14 |
| schweeb | or do some packages need work | 01:14 |
| dholbach | i'll have a look at the reverse depends when elmo says he has it done | 01:14 |
| dholbach | powerpc-2.4 didnt build | 01:15 |
| dholbach | will need to ask the kernel crew | 01:15 |
| schweeb | ah | 01:15 |
| dholbach | i'll take stax | 01:17 |
| crimsun | I'm on ccmalloc | 01:27 |
| dholbach | i take ire | 01:27 |
| === ogra [~ogra@p5089E50E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === diamond [~diamond@194.46.78.156] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| diamond | lo folks | 01:37 |
| diamond | dholbach: you're a machine -) | 01:37 |
| dholbach | diamond: i'm completely harmless | 01:37 |
| dholbach | :-) | 01:37 |
| diamond | dholbach: well, go you, either way -) | 01:37 |
| dholbach | i take gem | 01:39 |
| koke | w0w, downloading install/live for i386 at 600kBs each one | 01:40 |
| koke | god bless the universities :) | 01:41 |
| koke | s/god/$DEITY/ :) | 01:41 |
| diamond | i'm working on oregano | 01:45 |
| crimsun | thuban removed, built on all 4 arches. | 01:45 |
| dholbach | good one | 01:46 |
| crimsun | removing xlc, built on all 4 | 01:46 |
| dholbach | you'll get an editing conflict | 01:47 |
| dholbach | like i already had 5 this evening | 01:47 |
| dholbach | somebody should teach the wiki to merge | 01:47 |
| crimsun | sok, I'm used to it | 01:47 |
| crimsun | I've already triggered 3 conflicts | 01:47 |
| crimsun | ;) | 01:47 |
| dholbach | with a huge club | 01:47 |
| diamond | ditto. lots of conflicts | 01:48 |
| === virgiln [~Virgiln@wsip-66-210-31-202.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | can somebody look at those: | 01:58 |
| dholbach | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/e/echoping/5.2.0-2/ - (on powerpc) should be tackled by a dpatch with "automake --force --add-missing"-run | 01:58 |
| dholbach | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/l/luxman <- should be easy to fix as well - replacing "xargs -0" with "xargs -r0" somewhere in debian/ should fix it (i386 only) | 01:58 |
| dholbach | i'm not on i386 or powerpc | 01:58 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: you're aware of gnue-reports failing? | 02:02 |
| dholbach | i take sear | 02:03 |
| === tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| tritium | dholbach, what's up? | 02:07 |
| dholbach | tritium: having a go at UniversePriorityList | 02:08 |
| dholbach | and UniversePriorityList clearly looses MUHuhuHAUHAUHAAAAA :-) | 02:09 |
| tritium | heh | 02:09 |
| tritium | ogra, I just barely joined when I saw your comment about krecipes. Does that mean you're uploading it? | 02:10 |
| ogra | tritium, i will, i wont do the binch of reviews this moment, but kreciepes will be in hoary as promised | 02:11 |
| tritium | ogra, yay! - thanks :) | 02:11 |
| dholbach | ha... sear fixed | 02:13 |
| tritium | ogra, let me fix up a lintian.override file, and it'll be ready | 02:19 |
| ogra | okay | 02:19 |
| === diamond wonders if dholbach also fixes packages while sleeping | ||
| dholbach | i try qtstalker | 02:23 |
| dholbach | diamond: don't think so :-) | 02:24 |
| diamond | dholbach: i'm not so sure -) | 02:24 |
| diamond | if anyone has time, oo2c is up for review on diamond.nonado.net/packages/oo2c. very trivial fix. | 02:25 |
| diamond | once it's up, libooc-xml will then build. | 02:25 |
| dholbach | diamond: will have a look | 02:26 |
| diamond | dholbach: cheers | 02:26 |
| === thully [~thully@wuser115-league.umnet.umich.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| thully | Is universe in "deep freeze" yet (meaning no new packages or non-critical updates)? | 02:28 |
| schweeb | no | 02:28 |
| dholbach | diamond: will do a testbuild, while i take murphy for a walk | 02:28 |
| diamond | dholbach: cool. | 02:29 |
| thully | if anyone has any extra time (which is improbable at this point) there are a few things that would be nice to have in universe - one being a special kernel with a patch for an annoying problem I'm having (however, this patch requires using a framebuffer, which the stock kernels don't do for good reason) | 02:31 |
| dholbach | thully: please discuss it on the list | 02:31 |
| schweeb | thully: you're more likely to get action if you package it yourself | 02:31 |
| thully | Is the Ubuntu kernel finalized for release? If so, I could try applying the patches and running the Ubuntu kernel build system | 02:32 |
| schweeb | it's pretty much final | 02:33 |
| schweeb | and if it's an obscure patch, it's probably not worth the effort getting it included | 02:34 |
| dholbach | diamond: uploaded | 02:34 |
| diamond | dholbach: woo. thanks. | 02:34 |
| diamond | dholbach: oregano is there now too, also a trivial fix. but i'll understand if you're busy -) | 02:35 |
| dholbach | diamond: will look | 02:35 |
| thully | In that case - it may be too obscure - it's just an issue w/suspend-to-RAM using 10x too much power on many recent ThinkPads | 02:35 |
| diamond | note: the fix for oregano is not great, i've patched the Makefile.in, as when i changed the Makefile.am and tried to run automake, nothing would build at all | 02:35 |
| dholbach | thully: please talk to the kernel team - nobody of the MOTUs will judge a kernel patch | 02:36 |
| thully | Well - they know about it - this is impossible to apply to the main kernel, though, as it requires features that cause problems on other systems | 02:37 |
| dholbach | (even it is for universe) | 02:37 |
| thully | There is a possible userspace solution, but as of now it doesn't work. | 02:37 |
| dholbach | please discuss it on the mailing list | 02:38 |
| crimsun | thully: I'm fairly certain it's not possible for Hoary. | 02:39 |
| thully | OK - I was a bit doubtful myself | 02:39 |
| dholbach | a bit? we have 24h until release and like 2496792467924672946 packages to fix | 02:40 |
| diamond | dholbach: you forgot one. i think it's 2496792467924672947 | 02:41 |
| thully | sorry | 02:41 |
| dholbach | diamond: no... just fixed qtstalker :-) | 02:41 |
| tritium | I hope we can do all that in polynomial time! | 02:41 |
| crimsun | pssht | 02:42 |
| diamond | dholbach: ah. good stuff. ,-) | 02:42 |
| dholbach | diamond: oregano is testbuilding | 02:42 |
| diamond | dholbach: cool | 02:42 |
| dholbach | i look at golem | 02:46 |
| diamond | i'm looking at xfs-xtt | 02:46 |
| schweeb | ugh, that shoudl be morgued | 02:47 |
| schweeb | xfs and X itself can do about everything xtt can do | 02:47 |
| schweeb | </rant> | 02:47 |
| dholbach | diamond: oregano uploaded | 02:48 |
| diamond | dholbach: yay. thanks. | 02:49 |
| ogra | schweeb, fontservers are very useful for network wide font installations :) | 02:50 |
| schweeb | ogra: yes, but that's what we have regular xfs for :) | 02:50 |
| ogra | true | 02:51 |
| dholbach | ha... golem fixed | 02:52 |
| schweeb | in fact, I used XFS-XTT at one time, but that was before I knew about x-ttcidfont-conf | 02:53 |
| schweeb | or whatever the hell it's called | 02:53 |
| schweeb | I remember Eterm crashing whenever I used it... other stuff as well *shrug* | 02:54 |
| dholbach | what was the procedure on /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lvga on i386? | 02:54 |
| dholbach | adding libsvga-dev [i386] to Build-Depends? | 02:54 |
| diamond | dholbach: sounds right | 02:54 |
| ogra | dholbach, i think so... | 02:54 |
| diamond | right, i've crossed off at least half of the 25% section of the list | 02:55 |
| diamond | i just checked against the latest build logs and removed any that built on all 4 archs | 02:55 |
| crimsun | oh my, mozart barfs all over amd64 | 02:55 |
| diamond | all the ones that are left definetely don't build on all 4 ,-) | 02:56 |
| koke | hey, I have spambayes for upload | 02:57 |
| koke | have to sleep now | 02:59 |
| koke | please, someone upload spambayes for me, thanks | 02:59 |
| koke | http://www.amedias.org/~koke/debian/hoary/ | 03:00 |
| koke | bye! | 03:00 |
| dholbach | bye koke | 03:00 |
| dholbach | ogra: it's your turn in uploading :-) | 03:00 |
| koke | hehe | 03:00 |
| === ogra fires up a browser | ||
| ogra | argh | 03:02 |
| crimsun | gah | 03:02 |
| ogra | can anyone get this ? http://www.amedias.org/~koke/debian/hoary/spambayes_1.0.1-1ubuntu1_source.changes | 03:02 |
| crimsun | I have four different pbuilders running :( | 03:02 |
| dholbach | crimsun: that's how i worked twice through apt-get.org ;-) | 03:03 |
| crimsun | dholbach: ;) | 03:03 |
| ogra | dholbach, can you get the above url ? | 03:03 |
| diamond | ogra: no. 403. | 03:03 |
| ogra | grr, same here | 03:03 |
| crimsun | same here | 03:03 |
| dholbach | *clickedy clack* try again | 03:04 |
| dholbach | haha | 03:04 |
| dholbach | was only joking | 03:04 |
| dholbach | :-) | 03:04 |
| dholbach | same here | 03:04 |
| ogra | heh | 03:04 |
| ogra | i'll mail him | 03:04 |
| dholbach | just grab .dsc and .diff.gz | 03:04 |
| dholbach | no time to be kitty kitty :-) | 03:04 |
| dholbach | out with murphy | 03:10 |
| diamond | right. i'm going to bed now. nite folks | 03:19 |
| diamond | dholbach: don't go burning up on us, ya hear? | 03:19 |
| dholbach | "burning up somebody" means? | 03:20 |
| tseng | dholbach: it means you're nuts :D | 03:25 |
| dholbach | ah i see | 03:26 |
| === dholbach can live with that assessment | ||
| tseng | joking | 03:30 |
| dholbach | :-) | 03:31 |
| dholbach | i take timeoutd | 03:40 |
| dholbach | done | 03:45 |
| tritium | ogra, krecipes is ready. I have crimsun's approval on it, as well as gourmet. I'm waiiting on gourmet, to see if I can get python-pyrtf approved, in which case I'll make it a Build-Depends for gourmet. | 03:50 |
| dholbach | i take tleenx2 | 03:53 |
| crimsun | tritium: ok, I'll look at python-pyrtf, sec | 03:54 |
| tritium | crimsun, thanks :-) | 03:54 |
| dholbach | done | 04:00 |
| crimsun | ok, mozart's eating too much time | 04:01 |
| crimsun | tackling oroborus | 04:01 |
| crimsun | apt-get source oroborus | 04:01 |
| crimsun | argh | 04:02 |
| dholbach | i'd never buy an ia64 or powerpc from what i see in the buildlogs - they mess it all up ;-) | 04:02 |
| crimsun | hehe | 04:02 |
| === schweeb pets dholbach | ||
| tritium | dholbach, don't you have an amd64? | 04:03 |
| schweeb | good boy | 04:03 |
| tritium | ah, you said ia64, never mind me | 04:03 |
| dholbach | :-) | 04:03 |
| schweeb | amd64 is the way of the future :) | 04:04 |
| schweeb | ia64 is meh | 04:04 |
| dholbach | yeah! | 04:04 |
| dholbach | ok pals, i'm off to bed - see you for the countdown | 04:08 |
| schweeb | heh | 04:08 |
| tritium | goodnight, dholbach! | 04:08 |
| schweeb | what is it, like 5am there? | 04:08 |
| dholbach | 4 | 04:09 |
| crimsun | cya dholbach | 04:09 |
| schweeb | night | 04:09 |
| dholbach | *wave* | 04:09 |
| crimsun | oroborus fixed | 04:24 |
| === yfir [~yfir@dsl-143-156.aei.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S01060011117b1045.du.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] | ||
| Burgundavia | how do I add a source archive to the consideration? | 07:45 |
| Burgundavia | anybody here? :( | 08:35 |
| === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === encolpe [~encolpe@81.56.211.189] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === encolpe [~encolpe@81.56.211.189] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] | ||
| === jani [~jani@iv.ro] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === d3vic3 [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === dholbach [~daniel@td9091b95.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | good morning | 10:03 |
| dholbach | somebody please review krecipes, gourmet and hula from wiki/MOTUNewPackages and make a small signature - i want those packages to get in | 10:04 |
| Lathiat | whats this "apt-get.org stuff"i keep hearing references too | 10:08 |
| Lathiat | like specifically | 10:08 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetOrg | 10:08 |
| dholbach | we import packages from there to make it easier for people to get those | 10:08 |
| Lathiat | ah ok thanks | 10:09 |
| dholbach | np | 10:09 |
| Lathiat | i assume stuff is like you know, security audited, etc :) | 10:09 |
| jani | hey dholbach | 10:09 |
| jani | I reviewed krecipes and it's ok | 10:09 |
| jani | it had some lintian warnings though | 10:10 |
| jani | and kept hanging when I tried using it :( | 10:10 |
| Lathiat | ahh i see the page now :) | 10:10 |
| GheRivero | good morning | 10:10 |
| dholbach | hey GheRivero | 10:11 |
| dholbach | jani: strange, i used it alright | 10:11 |
| jani | ok then I trust you :) | 10:11 |
| jani | I might need to rebuild it | 10:11 |
| === fwiffo [~fwiffo@dhcpserver0.oersted.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | even saved data on my postgresql-server :-) | 10:13 |
| jani | dholbach when does universe close? | 10:16 |
| dholbach | shortly before announce | 10:17 |
| dholbach | should be in +-20h | 10:17 |
| jani | tomorrow right? | 10:18 |
| jani | can you please do an upload for me I am at work and got no private key here | 10:18 |
| Treenaks | ~20h is tomorrow, 6:00 CEST | 10:18 |
| jani | http://sourcecontrol.net/~jmonoses/hoary/xfce-mcs-plugins/ | 10:18 |
| dholbach | will do | 10:18 |
| jani | the fix for the XFCE display settings mentioned on users list | 10:19 |
| dholbach | didnt read it, was busy :-) | 10:19 |
| jani | thanks a lot :) | 10:19 |
| dholbach | but if you say it's ok | 10:19 |
| jani | yes it did not have xrandr and some other libs in the build-depends so it did not include them | 10:19 |
| jani | the resolution setting dialog did not show any resolution this way | 10:20 |
| === thoreauputic [~debianarc@wolax8-199.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| jani | if the configure script detected those libs they were included if not not | 10:20 |
| jani | so it happens that os-works people had them installed we didn't and hence the difference | 10:20 |
| jani | now enforcing those in build depends shoudl fix the issue | 10:21 |
| dholbach | jani: done | 10:25 |
| jani | thanks again :) | 10:25 |
| === dredg [niall@malkovich.office.blacknight.ie] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | i'm doing a dvd test install | 10:39 |
| dholbach | could somebody please briefly review krecipes, gourmet and hula? | 10:40 |
| dholbach | this is the last hours | 10:40 |
| dholbach | bbl | 10:40 |
| jani | dholbach, I'll try tonight I hope it's not too late | 10:40 |
| dholbach | thanks | 10:41 |
| dholbach | hopefully somebody else will volunteer before, but thank you very much | 10:41 |
| dholbach | i really want to have those in | 10:41 |
| Lathiat | does it require someone with privaledges to review them or just anyone? | 10:42 |
| dholbach | it requires knowledge about packaging and judging how it's done, testing and so on | 10:43 |
| dholbach | we prefer "signatures" from MOTUs and maintainers, but if you say "package works fine here" it's nice as well | 10:43 |
| dholbach | but i'm off - dvd test | 10:43 |
| dholbach | *wave* | 10:43 |
| Lathiat | ok, i might give them a shot just as a reinforcement then | 10:43 |
| dholbach | cool | 10:44 |
| dholbach | *wave* | 10:44 |
| === Nafallo [~nafallo@h22n3c1o1027.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === pe7er [~losof@pD95EB3C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === dholbach [~daniel@td9091b95.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| herzi | building hula-0.1.0-svn162 including manpages | 12:20 |
| Treenaks | manpages? that | 12:20 |
| Treenaks | must be a new feature | 12:20 |
| === Treenaks kicks his keyboard | ||
| dholbach | WOW! | 12:21 |
| dholbach | herzi: you rock! | 12:21 |
| Mithrandir | herzi: scary. | 12:21 |
| dholbach | herzi: we have like 18h left | 12:21 |
| Treenaks | Mithrandir: scary? | 12:21 |
| Mithrandir | yeah | 12:21 |
| Mithrandir | hula is _scary_ | 12:21 |
| Treenaks | Mithrandir: oh .. yeah but that's version-independant | 12:22 |
| herzi | dholbach: i guess my machine won't take SO long to compile and check with linda then | 12:22 |
| dholbach | herzi: we need people to review and elmo to push it in :-) | 12:22 |
| dholbach | and elmo also needs to get apt-get.org in | 12:22 |
| herzi | Treenaks: alreday took a look at it IIRC | 12:22 |
| dholbach | ah... he's awake | 12:22 |
| Treenaks | herzi: yes, I did | 12:23 |
| herzi | so, your manpages are there (most of them not beautiful, but they are in situ) | 12:23 |
| Treenaks | that's enough :) | 12:24 |
| dholbach | great | 12:24 |
| tseng | yay | 12:24 |
| tseng | ARE WE THERE YET? | 12:24 |
| dholbach | somebody please review hula, krecipes and gourmet | 12:25 |
| dholbach | i gave my okay | 12:25 |
| tseng | ive been actually using the hula packages | 12:25 |
| herzi | tseng: MY packages or alex' ones | 12:25 |
| herzi | ? | 12:25 |
| tseng | whatever Nat.org links to | 12:25 |
| herzi | not mine | 12:25 |
| tseng | oh. | 12:26 |
| tseng | ill look at it after work maybe then | 12:26 |
| herzi | though the postinst of my packages should convert your stuff correclty (hey, we have a test user for this *g*) | 12:26 |
| tseng | hm | 12:27 |
| ogra | dholbach, i'm at it...calm down... | 12:27 |
| ogra | morning btw | 12:27 |
| tseng | hi ogra :) | 12:27 |
| dholbach | morning ogra | 12:27 |
| dholbach | i really don't want to be bickering | 12:28 |
| herzi | morning ogra | 12:28 |
| ogra | hi herzi | 12:28 |
| === koke [~koke@rm-001-26.serve.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | bbiab | 12:34 |
| === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| herzi | new hula packages are available at: http://www.blaubeermuffin.de/packages/hula | 12:37 |
| herzi | tseng: i'd love to hear a migration report from you | 12:37 |
| herzi | GheRivero: still working on your live cd project? | 12:44 |
| GheRivero | herzi, live cd? | 12:47 |
| GheRivero | ah! Hi Sven, i didn't know this was your nick | 12:48 |
| GheRivero | yes, we are still working, but we have just stop to think again | 12:49 |
| GheRivero | about the way to follow | 12:49 |
| tseng | herzi: oh i forgot to mention | 12:57 |
| tseng | herzi: its running a warty system | 12:57 |
| tseng | work time, cya later. | 12:58 |
| herzi | tseng: okay | 01:00 |
| === Lathiat [~lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| koke | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/s/spambayes/1.0.1-1ubuntu1/spambayes_1.0.1-1ubuntu1_20050407-0240-i386-failed <-- this is quite strange :/ | 01:18 |
| koke | I pbuilded it correctly | 01:18 |
| koke | debian/rules:90: warning: overriding commands for target `build-stamp' | 01:18 |
| koke | $ wc -l spambayes-1.0.1/debian/rules | 01:18 |
| koke | 75 spambayes-1.0.1/debian/rules | 01:18 |
| koke | that's an old debian/rules | 01:18 |
| koke | dholbach: the .diff.gz in the archive is not the same than mine ?!? | 01:21 |
| koke | brb | 01:21 |
| dholbach | koke: | 01:21 |
| dholbach | MAN | 01:21 |
| dholbach | WHY DO YOU ASK ME WHEN YOU LEAVE 10 SECONDS AFTER THAT | 01:21 |
| === dholbach shakes head in disblief | ||
| Treenaks | lol | 01:23 |
| dholbach | and i didnt upload it... | 01:24 |
| d3vic3 | doko, ping | 01:25 |
| d3vic3 | lo dholbach | 01:25 |
| dholbach | hey d3vic3 | 01:25 |
| dholbach | :-) | 01:25 |
| d3vic3 | ajmitch, ping | 01:25 |
| dholbach | can somebody on i386 check what rdepends on umlrun, umlrun-uml, rootstrap? | 01:53 |
| dredg | niall@malkovich:~(0)$ apt-cache rdepends umlrun | 01:54 |
| dredg | umlrun | 01:54 |
| dredg | Reverse Depends: | 01:54 |
| dredg | niall@malkovich:~(0)$ apt-cache rdepends umlrun-uml | 01:54 |
| dredg | umlrun-uml | 01:54 |
| dredg | Reverse Depends: | 01:54 |
| dredg | niall@malkovich:~(0)$ apt-cache rdepends rootstrap | 01:54 |
| dredg | rootstrap | 01:54 |
| dredg | Reverse Depends: | 01:54 |
| dredg | user-mode-linux | 01:54 |
| dredg | umlrun | 01:54 |
| dholbach | thanks dredg | 01:54 |
| === koke [~koke@rm-001-26.serve.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === thoreauputic_ [~debianarc@wolax9-002.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | koke! | 01:57 |
| dholbach | !" | 01:57 |
| dholbach | 1) why do you say something to me and leave 10 seconds after that? *GRMBL* 2) i didnt upload it 3) shall i upload it now? | 01:58 |
| koke | dholbach: sorry, I had to go | 01:58 |
| koke | I though you uploaded it | 01:59 |
| dholbach | ok | 01:59 |
| dholbach | koke: please bump the revision | 02:02 |
| dholbach | and i'll take care of it | 02:03 |
| koke | what should I put in the changelog?? | 02:03 |
| dholbach | Rebuild. | 02:03 |
| koke | ok | 02:03 |
| koke | uploading... | 02:04 |
| koke | ...[ OK ] | 02:04 |
| koke | :) | 02:05 |
| dholbach | koke: testbuilding | 02:20 |
| === pe7er [~losof@pD95EB34E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === jani [~jani@iv.ro] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | jani: MOTUToSync | 02:23 |
| jani | I'll look | 02:23 |
| dholbach | koke: uploaded | 02:23 |
| koke | dholbach: thanks :) | 02:23 |
| === gnrfan [~gnrfan@201.240.27.52] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| jani | impressive :) | 02:23 |
| jani | I'll take those ruby things down as libruby1.8 is in main | 02:24 |
| dholbach | yes | 02:24 |
| dholbach | that's what elmo said | 02:24 |
| jani | hmm did anyone actually synced those? | 02:25 |
| jani | I recall elmo and mdz saying last week that bc libruby1.8 is in main they're uncomfy with syncing at this point | 02:25 |
| jani | yes rake was a dependency of rails (it was my first package almost 2 months ago :) | 02:26 |
| dholbach | yes... i guess we'll sync those in 2 weeks or something | 02:26 |
| jani | but since debian had it I no longer pushed my version | 02:26 |
| jani | yes no hurry | 02:27 |
| dholbach | ok | 02:27 |
| jani | what I am most interested in is enduser apps for people who shouldn't mess aroud with their sources.list | 02:27 |
| dholbach | yes | 02:27 |
| jani | but I guess nvu is late in the game as well | 02:27 |
| jani | http://sourcecontrol.net/~jmonoses/hoary/nvu | 02:28 |
| jani | it has some lintian warnings that require messing iwth the source I think | 02:28 |
| jani | I put this in the wiki but guess it went off with the erasure at the beginning of the week | 02:28 |
| dholbach | *grmbl* wiki *grmbl* | 02:30 |
| === d3vic3 [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === ts3355 [~asaf@bzq-218-207-151.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === zul [~chuck@198.62.158.205] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | could somebody investigate if mysqlcc works with libmysqlclient10-dev? | 03:15 |
| dholbach | seems to not build with libmysqlclient-dev | 03:15 |
| === T-Bone [~varenet@T-Bone.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| zul | T-Bone: yay! :) | 03:16 |
| T-Bone | hi, just passing by to let you guys know about a couple of build failures that might be of interest of you. Note: these happen on hppa (unsupported arch) and i haven't checked they affect supported archs as well, i leave that up to you. dholbach told me to let you guys know about them anyway, here i do. Don't bother too much if you have better things to fix ;) | 03:17 |
| Lathiat | dholbach: there not being a libmysqlclient-dev package isn't helping | 03:18 |
| T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/mkhppa3/netpipe_3.6.2-1_20050407-0902 <- seems this one wants to build-dep on libmpich1.0-dev | 03:18 |
| T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/mkhppa3/mysqlcc_0.9.4-4_20050407-0853 <- this one seems to want libmysqlclient12-dev | 03:19 |
| Lathiat | heh i was just looking at mysqlcc | 03:19 |
| T-Bone | (needless to say, i haven't *verified* that my guess are right) | 03:19 |
| T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/mkhppa3/lkcdutils_6.0.0-2_20050407-0834 <- that one is rather funny. Dunno how it works elsewhere: hardcode 'i386' strings everywhere, and even the maintainer's home directory (see the final failure). Maybe too much work for you atm though ;) | 03:21 |
| dholbach | T-Bone: we were just trying to decide if we could chuck out lkcdutils | 03:22 |
| dholbach | but anyway, i need a break | 03:22 |
| dholbach | see you in a bit | 03:22 |
| T-Bone | fwiw, i'm currently looking at http://buildd.slashdirt.org/FAILED.html which lists all hppa failures. The KDE ones are known (yet i don't fully understand them) so ignore all kde cruft. Others are more strange. That's just for you to know though. I won't be bothering you with hppa until hoary releases ;) | 03:25 |
| Lathiat | T-Bone: you need the gzip module on on that server :) | 03:26 |
| T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/mkhppa3/pymol_0.97-1ubuntu1_20050406-2244 <- this ones looks for python2.3 whilst 2.4 is requested... | 03:26 |
| Lathiat | for beasts such as mozilla :) | 03:26 |
| T-Bone | Lathiat : good point, i can arrange that i guess | 03:26 |
| jani | idholback, when you're back if you have time http://sourcecontrol.net/~jmonoses/hoary/rake/ | 03:26 |
| jani | if not I'll upload tonight from home | 03:26 |
| === T-Bone tries to remember proper mod-gzip setup | ||
| jani | dholbach ^^ | 03:27 |
| jani | thanks :) | 03:27 |
| === jani is determined getting rake in hoary | ||
| Lathiat | dholbach: mysqlcc seems to build and run ok with a dep on libmysqlclient12, did you want the source changes? | 03:28 |
| T-Bone | Lathiat : mod-gzip enabled, lemme know if that's any better | 03:30 |
| T-Bone | ;) | 03:30 |
| Lathiat | T-Bone: haha thanks :) | 03:30 |
| Mithrandir | jani: I'd use dh_fixperms rather than chmodding explicitly. | 03:30 |
| Lathiat | try opening the mozilla-thunderbird logs :) | 03:30 |
| Lathiat | i seriously need a nice server | 03:31 |
| T-Bone | Lathiat : ignore mozilla, these are compiler issues to hppa ;) | 03:31 |
| Lathiat | with some stupidly fast cpu and raid array | 03:31 |
| Lathiat | laptop 5400rpm drive adn 2ghz pentium-m just doesn't cut the mustard :( | 03:31 |
| Mithrandir | jani: also, you build-dep on ruby >> 1.8, but you install into ruby1.8 unconditionally, I would think you would want a ruby (>> 1.8), ruby (<< 1.9), I'd think. | 03:31 |
| jani | Mithrandir, that's a sync from debian | 03:31 |
| jani | I had my lintian clean rake package but since there's one in sid I'll take it instead | 03:31 |
| Mithrandir | jani: I'm pointing out problems or potential problems, I'm not blaming you. | 03:32 |
| jani | that was my first deb package btw | 03:32 |
| jani | Mithrandir I know :) | 03:32 |
| jani | my first (and only) manpage written too.. | 03:32 |
| === jani recalls mid-february when he got interested in MOTU | ||
| Mithrandir | you might want to fill in the return value, errors and examples parts of the man page. | 03:33 |
| Mithrandir | +.BR -N--nosearch <-- missing, between N and - | 03:33 |
| Mithrandir | (personally, I'd have written -N, --nosearch and not -N,--nosearch) | 03:34 |
| Lathiat | when was the last sid sync? i notice bzflag hasn't bought in, would that need some motu love for breezy? | 03:34 |
| jani | Mithrandir, so I should patch up the debian maintainers package? I was in a hurry to get this in befor too late esp since another ruby app BD-s on it | 03:34 |
| Mithrandir | jani: those are all small changes, so I'd say so, yes. | 03:35 |
| jani | Mithrandir, the manpage I wrote actually is diffrenet from the one installed, long story | 03:35 |
| Mithrandir | jani: I'm just reading the diff. :) | 03:35 |
| jani | I wrote a manpage Kamion suggested corrections I did those, sent to rake author, he included it, debian maintainer installs his own manpage, prolly wasn't aware of the upstream chage | 03:36 |
| Mithrandir | jani: since it doesn't actually build anything, I'd remove the support for DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS too; it's just cruft. | 03:36 |
| Mithrandir | (that's a minor thing and not something I'd hold it back for, though) | 03:36 |
| jani | Mithrandir, cannot this wait till breezy? | 03:36 |
| === jani tries to get away | ||
| Mithrandir | jani: please at least fix the depends and build-deps and the , issue. | 03:37 |
| jani | or until at least the package that bd-s on rake builds | 03:37 |
| jani | ok will do | 03:37 |
| jani | btw there's no ruby 1.9 AFAIK why should I << 1.9 ? | 03:38 |
| jani | ruby1.8 is the package name | 03:38 |
| Mithrandir | Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 4.0.0), libtest-unit-ruby, ruby (>>1.8), rdoc(>>1.8) | 03:38 |
| jani | ruby is a metapackage with versions like 1.8 , 1.8.1 etc | 03:38 |
| Mithrandir | yes, and the package won't work with a ruby 1.9 | 03:38 |
| Mithrandir | that ruby 1.9 isn't released is irrelevant. | 03:39 |
| Mithrandir | (please also add a space between rdoc and ( | 03:39 |
| jani | untill ruby 1.9 is out we'll get this sorted out that is due late this year | 03:39 |
| Mithrandir | those packages will be around for 18 months, remember that. | 03:39 |
| Mithrandir | and the only way to solve that then is to add conflicts to ruby, which is the wrong way. | 03:40 |
| jani | but in those 18 months will we add ruby1.9 to hoary?? | 03:40 |
| Mithrandir | no, but people might want to upgrade a part of their installation. | 03:41 |
| Mithrandir | it'd taken you less to just fix it than arguing. :P | 03:41 |
| jani | I fixed the space part at least :) | 03:41 |
| jani | but the ruby dep part I am arguing about since it is the same in other packages | 03:42 |
| Mithrandir | many wrongs doesn't make any rights. :) | 03:42 |
| jani | I think they are many right in this case :) | 03:42 |
| === jani ducks | ||
| jani | I am following the other ruby packs policy and what seems to be described in ruby-debian-policy | 03:43 |
| Mithrandir | the set of deps you specify won't force you to upgrade to a newer rake if you upgrade to ruby (1.9), do you agree? | 03:43 |
| jani | the upstream packagers do this for debian for years, I didn't think I'd go and override what they write | 03:44 |
| jani | right, it wont | 03:44 |
| === d3vic3 sees zope-LDAP working | ||
| d3vic3 | yeepeee! | 03:44 |
| d3vic3 | :P | 03:44 |
| Lathiat | http://bur.st/~lathiat/mysqlcc/ <-- build-dep fixes | 03:44 |
| Mithrandir | jani: so you can break your installation without breaking the dependencies, right? | 03:45 |
| Mithrandir | jani: and that is bad. | 03:45 |
| jani | I know mithrandir | 03:45 |
| jani | but shouldn't the debian packagers handle that? | 03:46 |
| Mithrandir | they should, but the policy might be buggy. | 03:46 |
| jani | I mean they must have a reason for doing this | 03:46 |
| Mithrandir | they might not have been bitten yet. ;) | 03:46 |
| jani | btw rake churns out releases pretty often while ruby once a year | 03:46 |
| jani | ok if you insist I'll change it but this is one smal star in ubuntu universe and there are alot of similar ones | 03:47 |
| Mithrandir | we shall get the rest fixed for breezy, then? | 03:47 |
| jani | we cannot lintian fix and cosmetize all we're a dozen motu's and there's hundreds of DDs | 03:47 |
| T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/mkhppa3/blacs-mpi_1.1-23_20050407-1241 <- another libmpich dev issue maybe | 03:48 |
| jani | ok so the comma and the << 1.9 and it's ok with you? | 03:48 |
| Mithrandir | jani: I think so, yes. Prepare a package and I'll look through it again | 03:48 |
| jani | thanks, pinging you shorty when it's up, I'll just leave it ubuntu1 since it's not uploaded yet | 03:49 |
| T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/mkhppa3/tightvnc_1.2.9-5_20050407-1211 <- that one looks like a problem in the rules... | 03:50 |
| Mithrandir | jani: sure | 03:50 |
| jani | Mithrandir, it's up same location | 03:53 |
| jani | just the two changes | 03:53 |
| Mithrandir | jani: Build-deps too, not just depends. | 03:53 |
| Mithrandir | and a space between >> and the version | 03:53 |
| jani | ok | 03:53 |
| jani | also for rdoc << 1.9 | 03:54 |
| jani | ? | 03:54 |
| Mithrandir | yeah | 03:55 |
| jani | better now? | 03:57 |
| jani | Mithrandir ^^ | 03:57 |
| Mithrandir | yeah | 03:58 |
| Mithrandir | looks good | 03:58 |
| jani | thanks :) | 04:00 |
| === jroes [jroes@everest.sosdg.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| Mithrandir | jani: uhm, the .orig.tar.gz isn't in Ubuntu yet? | 04:03 |
| jani | it should be | 04:03 |
| Mithrandir | ok | 04:03 |
| jani | it was synced today | 04:03 |
| Mithrandir | else I fucked up a bit. | 04:03 |
| Mithrandir | oh well, tell me if you get a reject. | 04:03 |
| === bddebian [~bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| jani | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/rake/ | 04:04 |
| bddebian | Hey folks | 04:04 |
| jani | reject meaning?fail to build? | 04:04 |
| Mithrandir | jani: don't worry, you should get a mail about it. | 04:04 |
| jani | it won't show up on haory-changes though my address is eaten by the spamkiller | 04:05 |
| === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.130.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| Mithrandir | hm, ok | 04:05 |
| Mithrandir | oh well, look in the build logs and universe in an hour or so | 04:05 |
| Mithrandir | if it's not there, it's certainly lost somewhere. | 04:05 |
| jani | ok accepted | 04:05 |
| jani | thanks | 04:05 |
| jani | I mean I get the mail it just does not show up on the changes list | 04:06 |
| Mithrandir | oh, ok. | 04:06 |
| === ogra [~ogra@p5089CA93.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === T-Bone [~varenet@T-Bone.developer.debian] has left #ubuntu-motu [] | ||
| Lathiat | dholbach: ping when alive | 04:35 |
| === tshark7 [~timmir@ip70-186-42-75.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| jani | mithrandir any idea why the ubuntu1 sources aren't yet in the pool? I got the accept mail right after you uploaded >30 min ago | 04:38 |
| jani | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/rake/ | 04:38 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: i'd prefer it to build against libmysqlclient10, because of license iddues | 04:39 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: what about bzflag? | 04:40 |
| Lathiat | dholbach: it doesn't build against 10 | 04:42 |
| Lathiat | it wants mysql4 | 04:42 |
| Lathiat | i tried that first | 04:42 |
| Lathiat | dholbach: as for bzflag, its in debian unstable | 04:42 |
| === doko_ [~doko___@dsl-082-082-215-032.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| Lathiat | problem is it wants libcurl3 | 04:43 |
| Lathiat | i think you can build it without it tho | 04:43 |
| dholbach | our bzflag is 1.10.6.20040516ubuntu1 | 04:43 |
| Lathiat | yeh, current is 2.0.2 | 04:43 |
| dholbach | do we want it hard? | 04:43 |
| dholbach | bugfixes? | 04:43 |
| dholbach | crashes? | 04:44 |
| Lathiat | nah just new version | 04:44 |
| Lathiat | i was more asking | 04:44 |
| Lathiat | for post-hoary | 04:44 |
| Lathiat | it just means you can't play with people running 2.0.2 | 04:44 |
| dholbach | ok then we'll have it in 2-3 weeks or something | 04:44 |
| Lathiat | i just wanted to know if itd be synced or if i'd need to give it some love | 04:44 |
| === dholbach doesnt know the exact schedule | ||
| Lathiat | i suppose its not the best time to be asking such things :) | 04:44 |
| Lathiat | dholbach: so what about mysqlcc | 04:44 |
| dholbach | will be synced | 04:44 |
| herzi | dholbach: so who pushes my hula packages into hoary after they're checked? | 04:44 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: hrm... i just learned about mysqlclient{10,12}-dev-issues yesterday | 04:45 |
| dholbach | herzi: anybody, i can take of it | 04:45 |
| dholbach | ... care ... | 04:45 |
| Mithrandir | jani: has it built? | 04:49 |
| jani | I don't know but sources show up before building don't they? | 04:49 |
| jani | diff.gz and dsc in pool, then build and then debs in pool from what I saw so far | 04:50 |
| Mithrandir | yeah, that's right. | 04:50 |
| jani | maybe because it's a NEW package in that it hasn't built yet on ubuntu it need manual intervention? | 04:50 |
| Mithrandir | lamont: any idea where the rake upload has gone? | 04:50 |
| === tshark7 [~timmir@ip70-186-42-75.ma.dl.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] | ||
| lamont | Mithrandir: source or binary? | 05:09 |
| Mithrandir | source | 05:09 |
| Mithrandir | jani got an ACCEPTED message, but nothing more | 05:09 |
| lamont | Version : 0.5.0-1ubuntu1 | 05:09 |
| jani | it's in pool now | 05:10 |
| lamont | that's what's currently in wanna-build | 05:10 |
| Mithrandir | ok | 05:10 |
| lamont | and dep-waited on something | 05:10 |
| Mithrandir | thanks, then. | 05:10 |
| lamont | libtest-unit-ruby (>> 1.8) | 05:10 |
| lamont | ) | 05:10 |
| jani | oh that's not good :( | 05:10 |
| jani | I made the change to specifically not need >> 1.8 since we don't have that | 05:11 |
| jani | and cannot sync since it;s in main | 05:11 |
| lamont | jani: and then you didn't tell me to kick it | 05:11 |
| jani | out libtest-ruby is 0.1.8 | 05:11 |
| jani | lamont so now if you kick it it should build? | 05:11 |
| lamont | which I have just done | 05:11 |
| lamont | yes | 05:11 |
| jani | thanks | 05:11 |
| jani | when it buildt please kick rails since it bdepends on rake | 05:12 |
| lamont | if the package is marked Dep-Wait in buildLogs/Lists/hoary.all.$arch, and you upload something to remove the dep-wait, it will not build until I kick it | 05:12 |
| lamont | if it's a dep-wait that will actually be met, then it's automatic | 05:12 |
| jani | lamont is a more userfriendly and transparent web-interface planned to follos the state of packages through the system? | 05:13 |
| Mithrandir | jani: yes, launchpad. | 05:13 |
| lamont | jani: yes: launchpad | 05:13 |
| lamont | heh | 05:13 |
| jani | cool! | 05:13 |
| ogra | launchpad | 05:13 |
| jani | ogra gets the bronze medal ;) | 05:13 |
| lamont | and it will be ready in october of 2004, just in time for the start of hoary development. | 05:14 |
| ogra | heh | 05:14 |
| Mithrandir | launchpad should do everything, make lunch, fly to the moon, fix bugs, answer support requests and stop wars. | 05:14 |
| jani | 2004? | 05:14 |
| lamont | yeah | 05:14 |
| ogra | lamont, hoary ? | 05:14 |
| lamont | I hope it really gets here soon | 05:14 |
| lamont | Mithrandir: lunchpad | 05:14 |
| Mithrandir | lamont: oh, it's the lunchpad that does all that. launchpad will just manage distributions and stuff. | 05:14 |
| Mithrandir | I knew I had something mixed up | 05:14 |
| Mithrandir | ;) | 05:14 |
| lamont | launchpad is the infrastructure to make maintaining a derivative distro (like, say, ubuntu) trivial | 05:15 |
| lamont | in the mean time, we get to merge in new upstream stuff semi-manually | 05:15 |
| Mithrandir | so we'll be a derivative of ourselves. | 05:15 |
| jani | I knew about LP just didn't know it plans including tracking the innards of the build system | 05:15 |
| lamont | jani: yeah/ | 05:20 |
| lamont | you commit your changes, and say 'build me that thing, please" | 05:21 |
| jani | ok | 05:21 |
| jani | so now I see rake ubuntu1 is in pool | 05:21 |
| jani | will try building soon or is in dep-wait? | 05:22 |
| lamont | It should acutally be trying it already | 05:25 |
| === sanpera [~sanpera@157.182.195.191] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| lamont | and uploaded | 05:26 |
| lamont | so it'll show up in the archive shortly after :33, and anything that is dep-wait on that will automatically become needs-build | 05:27 |
| jani | ok, thanks | 05:27 |
| jani | great for i386 is successful :) | 05:28 |
| lamont | and the other 3 failures will be '$arch not in arch list: all ' failures (or should be) | 05:31 |
| jani | so if it's an arch:all then it only gets built for i386? | 05:36 |
| lamont | i386 builds arch: all components | 05:38 |
| lamont | sadly, before they're built, arch-all-only stuff shows up for all of the architectures | 05:38 |
| lamont | so the rest try and die | 05:38 |
| lamont | generally that happens really quickly, though, so we haven't cared enough to bother | 05:41 |
| jani | ok now the deb is in pool, do you need to kick rails or it is kicked already and waiting? | 05:43 |
| jani | oh I just saw it tried andfailed again | 05:43 |
| === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| jani | will try fixing it's depends up | 05:44 |
| === yfir [~yfir@dsl-148-153.aei.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | re | 06:01 |
| lamont | jani: if the package upload is to fix an incorrect dep-wait, then I have to get involved. If it's dep-waited for good reasons, then those clear by themselves. Likewise, dep-waits on virtual packages require manual intervention by me. | 06:02 |
| jani | lamont, I won;t fix it it requires ruby versions we don't have so rails is breezy stuff :) | 06:03 |
| jani | but noted | 06:03 |
| === AstralJava [c66783f113@cm-217-078-207-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | morning, mdz | 06:26 |
| mdz | morning | 06:27 |
| mdz | we ought to decide on a precise cutoff for universe quite soon | 06:28 |
| Lathiat | wow gnome packaging is so easy with that CDBS stuff | 06:28 |
| tritium | and python stuff too :) | 06:28 |
| dholbach | mdz: i'm talking to elmo about morguifying the stuff on our lists and apt-get.org import | 06:28 |
| dholbach | mdz: after that we will obey to your signal | 06:28 |
| dholbach | mdz: and fix random packages until that point | 06:29 |
| mdz | how many more hours do you think you can realistically put into it? | 06:29 |
| dholbach | mdz: i will stay awake until release | 06:29 |
| dholbach | is 8 utc still what you planned? | 06:30 |
| dholbach | for release that is | 06:30 |
| Lathiat | dholbach: that would be in ~16 hours correct? | 06:31 |
| jbailey | Lathiat: I'm glad you like it. =) | 06:31 |
| crimsun | yep | 06:31 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: 13h30m if i count correct | 06:32 |
| tritium | Hey there crimsun | 06:32 |
| crimsun | hi tritium | 06:32 |
| === Lathiat just create a package for fusa without alot of effort | ||
| dholbach | hey Treenaks | 06:32 |
| === Lathiat recalls 2-3 years ago debian packaging something | ||
| jani | hey crimsun | 06:32 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: i packaged it and i took it off the list again - need to sort out strange upstream issues | 06:32 |
| tritium | jbailey, it's all I use (if I can't package it with cdbs, I don't package it) | 06:32 |
| Lathiat | dholbach: heh | 06:33 |
| Lathiat | dholbach: well i was more playing with packaging stuff | 06:33 |
| Lathiat | altho its still on the list | 06:33 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: nice to hear that :-) | 06:33 |
| Lathiat | at least i saw it abotu 15 minutes ago | 06:33 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: MOTUNewPackages? | 06:33 |
| jbailey | tritium: If you can't package it with cdbs, please let me know. I've started hacking on cdbs2 again, and I'm trying to reduce the number of cases that cdbs can't handle. | 06:34 |
| Lathiat | umm i think the page i might have been looking at was universe candidate or somethign | 06:34 |
| === Lathiat looks | ||
| Lathiat | yeh 'twas | 06:34 |
| tritium | jbailey, sure thing! I didn't mean to imply things haven't built with cdbs -- so far everything has nicely. | 06:35 |
| jani | crimsun, there are two xfce buglets on my desktop | 06:35 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: i'll make a note, have it lying here :-) | 06:35 |
| crimsun | jani: xfprint included? | 06:35 |
| jbailey | tritium: THere are a pile of things that don't build with cdbs. That's not a problem. | 06:35 |
| jani | one is xfprint not starting, second systray cannot be put on panel | 06:35 |
| jani | you guessed it :) | 06:35 |
| jbailey | tritium: If a build environment is just too weird, there's no way a generic tool will handle it - that's not a problem. | 06:35 |
| jani | the display setting dialog is fixed | 06:35 |
| crimsun | jani: thanks for fixing the libxrandr* stuff | 06:35 |
| jbailey | tritium: It's the cases where the failure is a cdbs limitation that I'm really interested in. | 06:35 |
| jani | glad to | 06:35 |
| tritium | jbailey, okay | 06:36 |
| jani | when I try adding a systray to the panel it says it cannot find the module | 06:36 |
| jbailey | tritium: Although, I've been known to send patch to upstream to fix their build env to work with cdbs, but I enjoy doing that sort of thing ;) | 06:36 |
| tritium | :) | 06:36 |
| jani | I saw the xfprint prob mentioned on xfce-devel but without solution | 06:36 |
| crimsun | jani: I'm not in front of a Linux machine atm; what's the precise error for the systray? | 06:37 |
| tritium | crimsun, I see fabbione reviewed krecipes, and wants me to split out -dev package for those 2 libraries rather than use a lintian.override | 06:38 |
| crimsun | tritium: hmm, that suggestion sounds familiar ;) | 06:38 |
| jani | crimsun, I got to panel, add... and chose system tray | 06:38 |
| tritium | crimsun, yes, it does ;) | 06:38 |
| jani | it says could not create panel item "Systemtray" | 06:38 |
| jani | will debug tonight | 06:38 |
| jani | is the xfprint porblem known? | 06:39 |
| crimsun | jani: those two are highest in my queue to investigate | 06:39 |
| dholbach | can i all i ask you please to add stuff we NEED to do on wiki/UniverseLastMinuteFixes | 06:39 |
| crimsun | dholbach: ok | 06:39 |
| tritium | dholbach, if you see ogra, I need to ask him not to upload krecipes | 06:41 |
| dholbach | all the bugzilla/malone/mailinglist bugs and stuff on the list, users will kill us for, if the packages dont work | 06:41 |
| jani | dholbach, only critical stuff or would be nice stuff? | 06:41 |
| crimsun | at this point, critical | 06:41 |
| crimsun | (grave/RC) | 06:41 |
| dholbach | everything that is reasonable to fix in the last 13h | 06:41 |
| jani | none of the xfce bugs qualify IMHO | 06:41 |
| dholbach | (or whatever amount of time mdz will give us) | 06:41 |
| jani | but they'd be nice to fix | 06:42 |
| Lathiat | dholbach: what did you do about the mysqlclient stuff? | 06:42 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: nothing yet | 06:43 |
| dholbach | jani, crimsun: i just want to make sure we don't forget to fix people's favourite mediaplayer/htmleditor/... :-) | 06:43 |
| Lathiat | Anything I can do to lend a hand? I'm bored, bitter and need something to do :) | 06:43 |
| jani | :) | 06:43 |
| dholbach | i'll look after the universe kernel packages for now and join you after wards | 06:43 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: if you could crawl across wiki/MOTUTodo (maybe the bugzilla bugs tagged as universe) - that would be VERY nice of you | 06:44 |
| dholbach | and holler if you hit something interesting | 06:44 |
| Lathiat | ok | 06:44 |
| dholbach | wow, cool! | 06:45 |
| dholbach | :-) | 06:45 |
| crimsun | jani: please generate strace output for me and send it to crimsunkg@yahoo.com | 06:45 |
| jani | crimsun for the systray stuff I didn't know what to strace actually since the systray.so is loaded by an already running panel | 06:46 |
| Lathiat | dholbach: MorgueProposal = to be canned? | 06:46 |
| jani | so no executable is started | 06:46 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: canned? | 06:46 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: trash can? :-) | 06:46 |
| Lathiat | thrown out, gotten rid of | 06:46 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: yes | 06:46 |
| Lathiat | yes canned as in the trash can :) | 06:46 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: i'm working on that one | 06:46 |
| Lathiat | ok | 06:46 |
| Lathiat | was just wondering as im looking through | 06:46 |
| jani | whereas for the xfprint stuff it's g_module_load or whatever it is called from glib returns error on loading xfprint_cups.so | 06:46 |
| crimsun | hmm, I need to pull panel source then, too | 06:46 |
| jani | again not enough detailt without digging into glib sources | 06:46 |
| jani | but I haven't looked at the systray problem yet but will tonight | 06:47 |
| crimsun | g_module_load()? That sounds enticingly familiar to the xfdesktop problem. | 06:47 |
| jani | what do you know about the print stuff?iis it an upstrean problem? | 06:47 |
| crimsun | s/familiar/similar/ | 06:47 |
| jani | like the 'quit' one? | 06:48 |
| crimsun | I'm checking xfprint upstream now | 06:48 |
| crimsun | (yeah) | 06:48 |
| jani | the module is actually there in the path module_load gets | 06:48 |
| jani | but I'll have to get glib osurces | 06:48 |
| === jani does it now | ||
| crimsun | what error is it? unresolved symbol? | 06:49 |
| jani | no g_module_load returns NULL | 06:49 |
| jani | not too verbose | 06:49 |
| crimsun | anything additional in ~/.xsession-errors? | 06:50 |
| jani | it's xfprint that complaining I couldn;t find an easy way to tell glib to spew out debug info | 06:50 |
| jani | I'll take a look | 06:50 |
| crimsun | thanks | 06:50 |
| jani | nothing | 06:51 |
| crimsun | ok, the xfprint bug is known upstream | 06:51 |
| jani | starting either xfprint4 or xfprint-manger just prints | 06:51 |
| jani | aha | 06:51 |
| jani | cool | 06:51 |
| jani | I was talking about xfprint and you about systray I think :) | 06:51 |
| crimsun | actually both :) | 06:52 |
| === motaboy [~motaboy@host69-39.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| jani | but no the systay bug doesn't print anything either | 06:52 |
| === Danten [~danten@h47n8c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| jani | do we get a fix from their CVS?or there isn;t any | 06:52 |
| crimsun | it doesn't appear to have been fixed | 06:52 |
| motaboy | Hi all! | 06:53 |
| jani | crimsun, challanging :) | 06:53 |
| crimsun | it's still in status "NEW" on their bugzilla | 06:53 |
| dholbach | hey motaboy | 06:53 |
| tritium | Thanks for joining the conversation, dholbach. If it comes down to it, I have no problem if krecipes can't be put in Hoary. | 06:54 |
| jani | gonefor 10 minutes | 06:54 |
| Lathiat | joijiojioj | 06:54 |
| tritium | The package I most hoped to see in Hoary is python-matplotlib | 06:54 |
| Lathiat | ss | 06:55 |
| Lathiat | sorry ignore that, bad ssh | 06:55 |
| dholbach | tritium: make people review it :-) | 06:55 |
| tritium | dholbach, I have. crimsun was very helpful in that regard | 06:55 |
| dholbach | still issues open? | 06:55 |
| tritium | I just have one final issue to clean up with it. | 06:55 |
| dholbach | alright | 06:55 |
| tritium | but it's a challenge. I'll see what I can do in the next few hours | 06:56 |
| crimsun | tritium: check with jbailey regarding moving that rc | 06:56 |
| Lathiat | is anyone taking care of the gtk-mist-engine clash? | 06:57 |
| tritium | crimsun, will do, thank you for all your hard work reviewing my packages. | 06:57 |
| crimsun | np | 06:57 |
| tritium | crimsun, although, it doesn't appear to be that simple, since it's hard-coded in the source | 06:58 |
| crimsun | ick | 07:00 |
| crimsun | back in 10mins | 07:03 |
| jbailey | crimsun, tritium: What's up? | 07:03 |
| tritium | jbailey, oh, my python-matplotlib upstream like a system-wide rc-file in /usr/share/matplotlib/.matplotlibrc | 07:04 |
| tritium | so I'm looking into moving it to /etc/matplotlib/matplotlibrc, or something like that | 07:05 |
| jbailey | Wow, system wide dotfile? | 07:05 |
| jbailey | Sounds like a good excuse to go beat upstream with a trout. | 07:05 |
| tritium | yeah, so he can just append (.matplotlibrc) to either $HOME, or matplotlib's Data path | 07:05 |
| Lathiat | eww i just tried to start tomboy and it complained that /tmp/orbit-lathiat2 was not owned by the current user, which is true because it should be looking at /tmp/orbit-lathiat .. :\ wonder if thats a tomboy or somethign else bug :/ | 07:07 |
| === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | hey fabbione | 07:17 |
| dholbach | :-) | 07:17 |
| fabbione | yo | 07:17 |
| tritium | Hi fabbione | 07:17 |
| dholbach | may i introduce you to our new MOTU celebrity :-) | 07:17 |
| fabbione | dholbach: ehhe sure.. | 07:17 |
| dholbach | fabbione: ok... go ahead :-) | 07:18 |
| tritium | fabbione, first, let me thank you for your review of my packages | 07:18 |
| fabbione | tritium: no problem.. i am royal pain in the ass when i review packages.. | 07:18 |
| fabbione | you are not lucky :P | 07:18 |
| tritium | That's good! | 07:18 |
| fabbione | ok let's picture a scenario first | 07:18 |
| fabbione | i will try to make a simple example | 07:18 |
| fabbione | if you don't understand, stop me any time | 07:19 |
| tritium | Okay. | 07:19 |
| fabbione | first you need to be familiar with the concept of shared libraries... | 07:19 |
| fabbione | is any of you familiar with it? | 07:19 |
| tritium | Yes. | 07:19 |
| fabbione | ok | 07:19 |
| fabbione | in your package you have a shared library and headers file for development | 07:20 |
| fabbione | that means that there might be other applications using it | 07:20 |
| fabbione | now.. if you manage all in one package you have a big problem | 07:20 |
| fabbione | why.. | 07:20 |
| fabbione | you cannot handle api/abi changes properly | 07:21 |
| fabbione | let say your package is called foo | 07:21 |
| fabbione | or better.. your source is called foo | 07:21 |
| fabbione | and it creates a lib called libfoo1 | 07:21 |
| fabbione | it ships header files | 07:21 |
| fabbione | and an application | 07:22 |
| fabbione | ok? | 07:22 |
| fabbione | now somebody creates another piece of software called bar | 07:22 |
| fabbione | that uses libfoo1 | 07:22 |
| fabbione | links against it | 07:22 |
| fabbione | during foo development there is an API/ABI change | 07:23 |
| tritium | which breaks bar | 07:23 |
| fabbione | this means that libfoo2 is not compatible with libfoo1 | 07:23 |
| fabbione | exaclty | 07:23 |
| fabbione | what happens at package level | 07:24 |
| fabbione | because that's the whole point of the split | 07:24 |
| fabbione | if you have all in one package, your foo2 will be ok | 07:24 |
| fabbione | immediatly | 07:24 |
| fabbione | but it will break bar | 07:24 |
| fabbione | this is not nice | 07:24 |
| fabbione | since bar can be used by tons of more users | 07:24 |
| tritium | That makes good sense. | 07:24 |
| fabbione | so in order to perform a smooth transition, you split the packages | 07:25 |
| fabbione | now there is a specific name convention for libraries | 07:25 |
| fabbione | and it's not a case | 07:25 |
| fabbione | let say that the new libfoo has soname 2 | 07:25 |
| fabbione | the new package would be called libfoo2 | 07:25 |
| fabbione | and you will notice that the files in libfoo2 will not replace in anyway the files in libfoo1 | 07:26 |
| fabbione | at system level bar will still depends on libfoo1 (now marked as obsolted) | 07:26 |
| fabbione | but bar will not break | 07:26 |
| fabbione | since the lib is still there | 07:26 |
| tritium | yes | 07:26 |
| fabbione | the libfoo-dev package instead will be updated | 07:26 |
| fabbione | to use always the latest version of the headers (as foo2 in our example) | 07:27 |
| fabbione | (note that in the -dev there is more than just headers) | 07:27 |
| fabbione | at that point an apt-cache rdepend libfoo1 will show you all the packages that depends on libfoo1 | 07:27 |
| fabbione | result: bar | 07:27 |
| fabbione | you send a nice mail to the bar maintainer and you will tell him | 07:28 |
| fabbione | hey dude.. libfoo1 is obsolete.. time to upgrade bar | 07:28 |
| fabbione | all this process will ensure a perfectly smooth and invisible transition for the user | 07:28 |
| fabbione | that would otherwise break horribly | 07:28 |
| fabbione | i was searching now the documentaion that explains naming conventions and what file should be where | 07:29 |
| tritium | great | 07:29 |
| Lathiat | i think i might ahve tha tlink | 07:29 |
| fabbione | http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html | 07:29 |
| fabbione | it is also in .txt format | 07:30 |
| tritium | Thanks, fabbione | 07:30 |
| fabbione | just remove the file to browse the dir | 07:30 |
| Lathiat | http://navi.cx/~mike/writing-shared-libraries.html <-- that one? | 07:30 |
| Lathiat | oh, n~ot that one :) | 07:30 |
| fabbione | Lathiat: it's more about packaging than writing | 07:31 |
| Lathiat | fabbione: rightio | 07:31 |
| dholbach | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html is good for that as well | 07:31 |
| fabbione | dholbach: there is where i got the above link :) | 07:32 |
| dholbach | :-) | 07:32 |
| === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| herve | hi | 07:32 |
| dholbach | i just thought it was overkill, since some upstream folks tend to split off libraries (which nobody uses) | 07:32 |
| tritium | fabbione, I appreciate it. | 07:32 |
| dholbach | but fabbione, i see the arguments | 07:32 |
| dholbach | hi herve | 07:33 |
| fabbione | tritium: no problem | 07:33 |
| herve | what's the thread? | 07:33 |
| fabbione | dholbach: it's not just question of a small or large lib/pkg | 07:33 |
| dholbach | herve: krecipes and splitting libraries out in separate packages | 07:33 |
| fabbione | it's just the best (if not the only) thing to do | 07:33 |
| fabbione | there is no overkill anywhere | 07:34 |
| fabbione | don't get trapped in this overkill concept | 07:34 |
| dholbach | :-))) | 07:34 |
| fabbione | i can show you a lib package made of 3 files, used by everybody :) | 07:34 |
| tritium | wise words from fabbione :) | 07:34 |
| fabbione | that has a -dev | 07:34 |
| fabbione | and so on... | 07:35 |
| fabbione | also.. your source is still the same | 07:35 |
| fabbione | you just create multiple debs from the same source | 07:35 |
| dholbach | yes | 07:35 |
| fabbione | the overall overhead is to write an extra bunch of lines in debian/control and debian/rules | 07:35 |
| herve | I'll check the logs later, I'm interested by the arguments | 07:35 |
| herve | s/by/in | 07:35 |
| dholbach | i will bear it in my mind, especially the "overkill concept" bits :-) | 07:35 |
| tritium | i will too | 07:36 |
| fabbione | look at X for example | 07:36 |
| dholbach | i really mean it, thanks for depicting the whole landscape, fabbione | 07:36 |
| fabbione | there are a bunch of libs like libxsetkbk0 | 07:36 |
| fabbione | that is used PROBABLY by one package | 07:36 |
| fabbione | but it's there anyway | 07:36 |
| dholbach | *nod* | 07:36 |
| fabbione | you don't know if others are developing on top of that libs | 07:36 |
| fabbione | so keep the option open | 07:36 |
| dholbach | yeah | 07:37 |
| herve | yes :-) | 07:37 |
| tritium | This was good. Perhaps a bit embarassing, but very good. :) | 07:37 |
| fabbione | tritium: there is nothing embarassing in this. really | 07:37 |
| Lathiat | tritium: bleh lose the shame, learn and make even better stuff :) | 07:37 |
| herve | and you avoid people whinning because they have to install a 10 meg package for just a library file! | 07:37 |
| fabbione | i had to hit this argument with myslef a long time ago | 07:37 |
| tritium | :) | 07:37 |
| dholbach | ok... dvd burned, will install - see you later guys | 07:38 |
| tritium | see you, dholbach | 07:38 |
| dholbach | and do some hula testing :-) | 07:38 |
| dholbach | hula hula hula! :-) | 07:38 |
| herve | hu? | 07:40 |
| herve | he put on an hawaiian shirt? | 07:40 |
| herve | :-) | 07:40 |
| tritium | fabbione, while I've got you here, can I ask you what your recommendation regarding gourmet would be? How to deal with debian/ dir in upstream? | 07:40 |
| fabbione | tritium: sure.. well i would use 2 approaches | 07:40 |
| tritium | I already plan to ask upstream to take it out. | 07:41 |
| fabbione | tritium: either ask upstream to remove the dir | 07:41 |
| fabbione | or otherwise repack the original from upstream, killing the debian dir | 07:41 |
| fabbione | the latter is NOT a mortal sin | 07:41 |
| tritium | Great, that doesn't sound so bad! | 07:41 |
| === mvirkkil [~mvirkkil@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| fabbione | tritium: just remember to add a note that you did that | 07:42 |
| herve | fabbione, even if it modifies the orig.tar.gz? | 07:42 |
| tritium | Thanks again, fabbione :) | 07:42 |
| fabbione | tritium: because people might check the md5sum from upstream and the one from your orig | 07:42 |
| fabbione | and the 2 won't match | 07:42 |
| tritium | indeed. I would definitely note such a change. | 07:42 |
| fabbione | tritium: so a good note in the README.Debian or in the changelog is good to have | 07:42 |
| fabbione | herve: yes. | 07:43 |
| fabbione | herve: as i wrote above. but this is not common practise | 07:43 |
| tritium | fabbione, thanks for your time, especially so close to release | 07:43 |
| fabbione | herve: we are discussion an exception | 07:43 |
| herve | sure | 07:43 |
| fabbione | tritium: no problem :) waiting for the DVD to burn is boring :P | 07:43 |
| tritium | :) | 07:43 |
| mvirkkil | Would anyone happen to know of any pygtk program that could use some love? | 07:43 |
| Phython | herve: were you looking for me the other day? | 07:44 |
| herve | Phython, yes, if you have packages still to review and upload | 07:44 |
| Phython | herve: I haven't heard of any reviews on the WvStreams packages | 07:45 |
| herve | in short, does hoary need them? :-) | 07:45 |
| Phython | herve: they are basically the exact same as the debian packages I made, except that I changed libwvstreams-dev to libwvstreams4.0-dev so as to not cause problems for the wvdial in main | 07:45 |
| Phython | herve: need, as in hoary will suck without them? I doubt that | 07:46 |
| herve | not a urgent fix then, thanks | 07:46 |
| Nafallo | ey! | 07:47 |
| Nafallo | someone changed ubuntu.com :-P | 07:47 |
| === Nafallo thought he was on the wrong page ;-) | ||
| herve | you mean... defaced?! :-p | 07:47 |
| Nafallo | herve: like you said :-) | 07:47 |
| Lathiat | is it just me or is ubuntu.com running *really* slow | 07:47 |
| tritium | fabbione, I'm going to go grab the powerpc daily live, and test it on a G5 now. See you later! | 07:47 |
| Lathiat | that can't be good if it is because it hasn't hit slashdot yet :) | 07:48 |
| fabbione | tritium: later | 07:48 |
| === tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] | ||
| trulux | heya folks | 07:52 |
| bddebian | Hello trulux | 07:56 |
| trulux | hey bddebian | 07:58 |
| trulux | I need to get tritium back :D | 07:59 |
| === thoreauputic [~debianarc@wolax9-206.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.130.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === motaboy [~motaboy@host69-39.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === ajmitch [~ajmitch@port163-21.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === dholbach [~daniel@td9091b95.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| trulux | anyone knows how to make brackets schemas with latex? | 08:24 |
| Mithrandir | what is a bracket schema? | 08:24 |
| trulux | Mithrandir: { | 08:24 |
| dholbach | re | 08:24 |
| trulux | each section and sub-section opens with { | 08:25 |
| trulux | re dholbach | 08:25 |
| trulux | ie. foo1 | | 08:25 |
| trulux | ie. | -> bar1 | 08:25 |
| trulux | | -> bar2 | 08:25 |
| trulux | etc | 08:25 |
| dholbach | still nothing on UniverseLastMinuteFixes? | 08:26 |
| trulux | mine? | 08:26 |
| === maskie [~maskie@196-30-108-106.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === pe7er_ [~losof@pD95EB34E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.130.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | what about UniversePythonTransitionTODO and "being transitioned"? | 08:31 |
| herve | trulux, \{ ? | 08:32 |
| herve | dholbach, I tried another gcompris release, it's helpless | 08:32 |
| trulux | herve: I will try | 08:33 |
| herve | hmm... can you smell that lemon pie? :-) | 08:34 |
| herve | dholbach, d3vic3 transition a whole bunch of python/zope packages, but still no wiki page update :-/ | 08:35 |
| herve | like someone transitioned spambayes but still marked as "being transitioned"... ;-) | 08:36 |
| dholbach | koke did | 08:38 |
| herve | so there's fewer to do than it seems | 08:39 |
| herve | a bit few, but, still | 08:39 |
| dholbach | UniversePriorityList -- 0% - 25% -- LOOKS GOOD | 08:42 |
| trulux | herve: I need a long bracket | 08:43 |
| trulux | herve: to fit the entries inside it | 08:43 |
| trulux | herve: and then make subbrackets for each entry | 08:43 |
| trulux | a typical brackets schema | 08:43 |
| trulux | f you can show me any tex code anywhere, I would appreciate it a lot | 08:44 |
| === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.130.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === diamond [~diamond@194.46.78.156] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| diamond | lo folks | 08:45 |
| bddebian | Heya diamond | 08:45 |
| diamond | dholbach: yo. i notice you removed ccmalloc, but it hasn't built on ppc has it? | 08:45 |
| Mithrandir | what does the percentages on UPL mean? | 08:45 |
| diamond | bddebian: morning | 08:46 |
| dholbach | diamond: erm, i thought it had | 08:46 |
| dholbach | Mithrandir: rank on popcon+ | 08:46 |
| diamond | Mithrandir: i think it's just the relative number of output lines for buildd | 08:46 |
| diamond | ah | 08:46 |
| crimsun | um | 08:46 |
| crimsun | I fixed ccmalloc | 08:46 |
| bddebian | er | 08:46 |
| diamond | dholbach: guh. my bad. didn't see the ubuntu1 version. | 08:46 |
| dholbach | ok | 08:46 |
| diamond | i'll be quiet now -) | 08:46 |
| crimsun | (http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/c/ccmalloc/0.4.0-2ubuntu1/) | 08:46 |
| Mithrandir | dholbach: so 100% means "everybody has it installed"? | 08:46 |
| dholbach | nope top 25% are the top 25% of packages in the user-has-installed-ranking | 08:47 |
| Mithrandir | oook | 08:47 |
| herve | trulux, I guess you win a whole trip through a latex tutorial :-) | 08:48 |
| diamond | anyone need an amd64 package looked at? otherwise i'm just gonna go poke randomly as usual ,-) | 08:49 |
| crimsun | mozart could use amd64 love | 08:49 |
| crimsun | not very important, I'd spend my time elsewhere | 08:50 |
| dholbach | somebody should look at universe bugzilla bugs | 08:50 |
| diamond | dholbach: ok, i'll wander that direction. | 08:50 |
| dholbach | i'm crawling over UniversePriorityLis | 08:50 |
| dholbach | diamond: thank you very much | 08:50 |
| trulux | herve: I have worked with latex for 2 months, just that I don't have time for a tuto right now | 08:50 |
| herve | trulux, so it's a mathematical typeset? | 08:51 |
| Mithrandir | lamont: please give-back gkrellm-reminder | 08:52 |
| dholbach | Mithrandir: it already built on the real buildds | 08:52 |
| Mithrandir | oh, ok. | 08:52 |
| Mithrandir | shouldn't it be removed from "can't build" then? | 08:53 |
| dholbach | so chuck it off the list, if you're logged in | 08:53 |
| dholbach | yes | 08:53 |
| diamond | herve: latex? general typeset, but it's maths capabilities are excellent | 08:53 |
| Mithrandir | I'm not :P | 08:53 |
| === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-229-188-97.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | i'll do it | 08:53 |
| Mithrandir | thx | 08:53 |
| herve | diamond, hu? er... sure! | 08:54 |
| diamond | herve: tho i'm probably missing some context here -) | 08:54 |
| herve | no one transitioned gtk-engines-mist? | 08:54 |
| herve | I'll try then | 08:54 |
| herve | diamond, tell trulux if you want to advocate the math mode :-) | 08:55 |
| trulux | herve: no, it's just text | 08:55 |
| trulux | herve: I will get in "hardcore" mode later | 08:56 |
| trulux | It's for school work, for physics class | 08:56 |
| === zendog [~jd78slsgp@148.243.92.91] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | please all get in wiki/bugzilla/package-review mode :-) | 08:56 |
| trulux | btw, I got the results of the wisc-r test | 08:56 |
| dholbach | universe deserves some loving | 08:56 |
| herve | dholbach, you forgot malone :-p | 08:56 |
| dholbach | yes :-) | 08:56 |
| dholbach | hula-reviews would be great | 08:56 |
| herve | don't let malone alone! | 08:57 |
| dholbach | hahaha | 08:57 |
| dholbach | :-) | 08:57 |
| herve | (oooook... this one was easy) | 08:57 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 08:57 |
| diamond | herve: gotta love those -) | 08:57 |
| Nafallo | nice rhyme for getting more bugtesters ;-) | 08:57 |
| Nafallo | s/bug// | 08:58 |
| === skyrider [~skyrider@195.128.178.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| === zendog salutes :) | ||
| dholbach | someone fancies fixing http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/l/luxman ? | 09:03 |
| dholbach | should be (on i386) something to fix in the debian/-dir, like adding "-r" to xargs | 09:04 |
| diamond | dholbach: i have luxman building on amd64, it runs, but hangs -( | 09:04 |
| diamond | don't currently have ubuntu on i386 tho | 09:04 |
| dholbach | buildlogs here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/l/luxman/0.41-19.1/ | 09:04 |
| dholbach | diamond: same here... no i386 | 09:05 |
| diamond | dholbach: damn inferiour platforms -) | 09:05 |
| diamond | *inferior | 09:05 |
| Nafallo | *hum* dchroot *hum* | 09:05 |
| diamond | Nafallo: aye, but that's a lotta stuff to d/l just to poke at one package. i think i'm more useful poking at amd64 stuff, seeing as there are less of us | 09:06 |
| Nafallo | diamond: true. I keep forgetting my server is local :-P. | 09:07 |
| dholbach | doko, ajmitch, dredg, tseng, Riddell, haggai: could you please have a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePythonTransitionTODO and tick off, what you already transitioned? thanks a lot | 09:10 |
| spacey | the wiki is really slow atm :p | 09:10 |
| diamond | Nafallo: with an 8G quota per month on my dsl line, i'm already 3G in this month due to hoary stuff ,-) | 09:10 |
| Nafallo | diamond: yay! quotas suck! get a real isp? | 09:11 |
| diamond | Nafallo: i'm a student. real isps don't exist without real money -) | 09:11 |
| Nafallo | diamond: true ;-) | 09:11 |
| === ajmitch [~ajmitch@port163-21.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| diamond | Nafallo: besides, i live in ireland, i'm lucky i can _get_ dsl -) | 09:12 |
| diamond | the incumberant telco here sucks at rolling it out | 09:12 |
| Nafallo | diamond: sweden here. we got dsl almost everywhere :-). a bush could order it ;-). | 09:12 |
| diamond | Nafallo: oh yeah. was over there a month ago. you bastards. i wanna live there. -) | 09:13 |
| Nafallo | my parents in the forest can have 8M/1M ;-) | 09:13 |
| Nafallo | diamond: *s* | 09:13 |
| diamond | Nafallo: i have a friend in stockholm who has 100M to his house for the same i pay here for 1M/128k | 09:13 |
| === bddebian2 [~bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| Nafallo | diamond: myself is complaining about living to near one of those KC-stations only upgraded to two megabit :-P | 09:14 |
| Nafallo | diamond: he's a student, isn't he? | 09:14 |
| diamond | Nafallo: nono, he's old. around 31. | 09:15 |
| dredg | diamond: yeah, sucks to be you | 09:15 |
| Nafallo | diamond: ahh. bbb, that's with 300G quota :-P | 09:15 |
| bddebian2 | Hey, watch what you consider old!! | 09:15 |
| === diamond cries | ||
| === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| diamond | bddebian2: -) | 09:15 |
| dredg | hmm, free 10M no cap with no cap :) | 09:15 |
| dholbach | i hope somebody opens #ubuntu-bandwidth some day :-p | 09:16 |
| bddebian2 | <-- Is ancient then | 09:16 |
| diamond | bddebian2: i'm a youthful 25 myself. | 09:16 |
| bddebian2 | Heh, got ya by 10 years :-) | 09:16 |
| diamond | but i was very young when i was born | 09:16 |
| Nafallo | diamond: lol | 09:17 |
| herve | I wondered if I was on #u-m for a moment :-) | 09:17 |
| === diamond notes it's very easy to keep a straight face on irc | ||
| dholbach | herve: hahaha, exactly | 09:17 |
| dholbach | somebody could fix gaphor | 09:20 |
| dholbach | it's on the PythonTransition as well | 09:20 |
| herve | would you believe me if I say that's my fifth attempt to crate that $!#@ pbuild... | 09:20 |
| dholbach | i look after tpb | 09:22 |
| herve | tbp? | 09:22 |
| dholbach | yes | 09:23 |
| dholbach | on prioritylist | 09:23 |
| herve | exactly | 09:23 |
| herve | I can't find it | 09:23 |
| dholbach | tpb Logs (6543) | 09:23 |
| trulux | herve: how can I change Theorem label (the text shown in the converted doc) to the Spanish translation? | 09:24 |
| trulux | /renewcommand? | 09:24 |
| herve | another cache issue I guess | 09:24 |
| herve | trulux, use the babel package | 09:24 |
| dholbach | dredg: what about the UniverPriority - things? | 09:24 |
| dholbach | dredg: oops, i meant PythonTransition | 09:25 |
| trulux | herve: it's already used | 09:25 |
| trulux | just no translation for Theorem | 09:25 |
| herve | I don't know further | 09:26 |
| herve | I only used latex a year ago for my "mmoire" | 09:26 |
| herve | I guess gcc is supposed to bring some "cc" alias? | 09:27 |
| trulux | right | 09:27 |
| herve | then... | 09:27 |
| trulux | cc is gcc-3.3 in Hoary | 09:27 |
| herve | ../libtool: line 861: cc: command not found | 09:27 |
| trulux | hah | 09:27 |
| herve | gcc-3.3 and -base installed | 09:27 |
| diamond | herve: ls -l /etc/alternatives/cc | 09:28 |
| diamond | herve: it should be a symlink to /usr/bin/gcc | 09:28 |
| herve | diamond, -> /usr/bin/gcc | 09:28 |
| herve | build-essential is installed too | 09:28 |
| diamond | herve: sounds like libtool has got it's $PATH mixed up then | 09:29 |
| herve | I don't have cc in my path too | 09:29 |
| herve | but it looks goo | 09:29 |
| herve | d | 09:29 |
| diamond | herve: and /usr/bin/cc should be a symlink to /etc/alternatives/cc | 09:29 |
| dholbach | maybe add EXTRAPACKAGES=<something> | 09:30 |
| herve | I could remake the link, but what happened... | 09:30 |
| diamond | herve: i think alternatives is supposed to handle the link | 09:31 |
| crimsun | what are the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/cc ? | 09:31 |
| === jani [~jani@iv.ro] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| herve | hi jani | 09:31 |
| jani | hi herve | 09:31 |
| dholbach | hey jani | 09:32 |
| dholbach | jani: what about the pythontransition packages? are they ok now? | 09:32 |
| jani | hey dholbacj | 09:32 |
| jani | yes | 09:32 |
| jani | they're done | 09:32 |
| herve | manual - /usr/bin/cc - cc.1.gz - /usr/share/man/man1/cc.1.gz -- /usr/bin/gcc - 20 - /usr/share/man/man1/gcc.1.gz | 09:32 |
| dholbach | could you state it on the list as well? :-) | 09:32 |
| jani | forgot to delete them from wiki | 09:32 |
| herve | I addded the dashes, of course | 09:32 |
| jani | which list? | 09:32 |
| dholbach | the wiki | 09:34 |
| dholbach | could somebody please grab tpb package from http://moz.gotdns.org/ubuntu/packages/ and try on i386? | 09:34 |
| dholbach | i should read more closely *grmbl* | 09:34 |
| herve | dholbach, you got it | 09:34 |
| dholbach | herve: hm? | 09:35 |
| crimsun | jani: systray is not affected by a symbol, will have to look at it post-Hoary | 09:35 |
| jani | hmm what is it's problem? | 09:35 |
| jani | I was just looking at it | 09:35 |
| jani | unsupported by upstream? | 09:35 |
| crimsun | jani: I haven't looked any closer than the error | 09:35 |
| herve | dholbach, will try | 09:35 |
| jani | xfprint doesn't load the cups_plugin | 09:36 |
| jani | but if you go to printer settings that does | 09:36 |
| dholbach | herve: thanks a lot | 09:36 |
| jani | but printer settings only uses one function of the cups plugin | 09:36 |
| crimsun | jani: k | 09:36 |
| jani | while xprint and manager use a lot of the, | 09:36 |
| dholbach | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/a/asc/1.15.3.0-1/ <--- easy fix (on i386), somebody please add svgalib1-dev [i386] to Build-Depends | 09:38 |
| dholbach | (and try) | 09:39 |
| herve | no! | 09:40 |
| herve | libsvga1-dev | 09:40 |
| herve | the former is deprecated | 09:40 |
| dholbach | ah yes | 09:40 |
| dholbach | ok... will do myself | 09:41 |
| ajmitch | morning | 09:41 |
| dholbach | hey ajmitch | 09:41 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: do you know about gnue-{reports,<something-else}-brokenness? | 09:41 |
| herve | morning ajmitch! | 09:42 |
| ajmitch | no, but it doesn't surprise me | 09:42 |
| dholbach | ah | 09:42 |
| dholbach | hm | 09:42 |
| ajmitch | you know what the something else is? | 09:43 |
| herve | I guess he was asking to you as an open question :-) | 09:43 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: maybe i remembered wrong | 09:44 |
| ajmitch | how long have we got to fix & upload stuff? | 09:45 |
| dholbach | like short before 8 utc | 09:45 |
| ajmitch | ok | 09:45 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: would you please look over PythonTransition-page? | 09:45 |
| dholbach | and look what you already solved? | 09:45 |
| crimsun | removing tcpstat, built on all 4 arches | 09:46 |
| ajmitch | too late to ask for sync, I guess | 09:46 |
| diamond | dholbach: fixed malone bug #290: diamond.nonado.net/packages/gnucash for review if you have a chance | 09:46 |
| diamond | dholbach: just changed the path in the .desktop | 09:46 |
| dholbach | diamond: you're ok suffices | 09:46 |
| dholbach | diamond: have a (Closes: Malone #290) in there? | 09:46 |
| dholbach | looks fancier ;-) | 09:47 |
| diamond | dholbach: no, just (malone #290) | 09:47 |
| diamond | but i can change that real easy -) | 09:47 |
| dholbach | is ok as well ;-) | 09:47 |
| dholbach | no... it's ok | 09:47 |
| dholbach | will upload | 09:47 |
| dholbach | and somebody: please test hula :-) | 09:47 |
| === ajmitch has to go to work, will talk from there | ||
| dholbach | ajmitch: see you later | 09:47 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: syncing is alright | 09:48 |
| === tritium [~rimbert@71.98.92.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | will look after kimdaba | 09:49 |
| AstralJava | Hey all! | 09:50 |
| dholbach | hey AstralJava | 09:50 |
| AstralJava | Got a question about packaging. | 09:50 |
| AstralJava | I was talking with crimsun a while back, and he got me into making .desktop entries for those many packages that either don't have or have a broken one. | 09:51 |
| AstralJava | What's the schedule for them, it doesn't have anything to do with Hoary being released now? | 09:52 |
| AstralJava | now == today | 09:52 |
| crimsun | it looks like gcompris is only missing a libsvga1-dev b-d | 09:52 |
| dholbach | AstralJava: we have like 7h30m until release | 09:52 |
| crimsun | test-building on i386 now | 09:52 |
| diamond | crimsun: aye | 09:53 |
| herve | crimsun, ho no it is not...... | 09:53 |
| crimsun | herve: k, fill me in | 09:53 |
| === Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S01060011117b1045.du.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| herve | crimsun, python transition, fscked up includes, missing .desktop... do I forget something? | 09:54 |
| AstralJava | dholbach: Yeah, I was just thinking. Actually, I don't know what I was thinking. :) | 09:54 |
| dholbach | AstralJava: don't worry, same here :-) | 09:54 |
| crimsun | herve: "includes" as in preprocessor macros? | 09:55 |
| dholbach | herve: broken auto*-voodoo | 09:55 |
| AstralJava | dholbach: Been reading about design patterns for five+ hours.... | 09:55 |
| dholbach | AstralJava: that breaks the spirit | 09:55 |
| AstralJava | Well anyway, now you know, I'll be working on those when I free myself from this cursed uni project. | 09:55 |
| herve | crimsun, gtk/gnome api changes? I'm don't know more | 09:55 |
| dholbach | diamond: uploaded | 09:55 |
| diamond | dholbach: cool, thanks | 09:55 |
| herve | dholbach, tpb pbuilt! | 09:56 |
| dholbach | herve: rock | 09:56 |
| dholbach | uploaded | 09:57 |
| dholbach | somebody looked at luxman? | 09:58 |
| dholbach | (of the i386 folks) | 09:58 |
| dholbach | kimdaba fixed | 10:04 |
| tritium | ogra, ping | 10:04 |
| ogra | tritium, pong | 10:04 |
| tritium | Hi ogra, sorry to bother. Please don't upload krecipes after all, okay? | 10:05 |
| ogra | ok | 10:05 |
| tritium | Okay. Thanks anyway ;) | 10:05 |
| ogra | herzi, ping | 10:14 |
| jani | crimsun, the systray message is not really an error it is misleading :) | 10:14 |
| jani | I got it because I got another systray running already | 10:14 |
| jani | I didn't know how systray is supposed to look like | 10:15 |
| jani | one bug less ;) | 10:15 |
| dholbach | luma should be easy to fix: python build-deps | 10:16 |
| === HillTop [~chatzilla@cpe-204-210-35-9.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| crimsun | jani: heh | 10:17 |
| crimsun | jani: thanks | 10:18 |
| jani | I suck | 10:18 |
| jani | but the xprint issue is more serious | 10:18 |
| jani | someone brought it up on users ml to after you asked for testers | 10:18 |
| dholbach | ok, i take care of luma | 10:20 |
| dholbach | there are millions of packages with bogus build-depends around | 10:21 |
| dholbach | hrmbl | 10:21 |
| dholbach | luma fixed | 10:23 |
| dholbach | i look after sim | 10:30 |
| AstralJava | Okay time to go to bed, see ya tomorrow. Oh, and have fun, who are there to witness the release! | 10:30 |
| AstralJava | I'll go dream about it. :) | 10:31 |
| === AstralJava [c66783f113@cm-217-078-207-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has left #ubuntu-motu [] | ||
| === dholbach [~daniel@td9091d9b.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | re | 10:32 |
| herve | itou | 10:33 |
| === ajmitch_ @ work now | ||
| herve | how does it feel? :-) | 10:36 |
| ajmitch_ | ? | 10:36 |
| herve | nevermind :-) | 10:38 |
| herve | I don't think I'll fix gtk-mist-engine before I must go | 10:44 |
| === zerokarmaleft [~zerokarma@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| herve | raaah | 10:50 |
| dholbach | hm? | 10:53 |
| herve | I found it | 10:53 |
| herve | dholbach, about https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8324 | 10:54 |
| herve | I just pbuilt it | 10:54 |
| herve | the latest from debian I mean | 10:56 |
| dholbach | ok, tell elmo to sync | 10:56 |
| dholbach | would somebody on i386 be so kind and test http://moz.gotdns.org/ubuntu/packages ? | 10:57 |
| herve | is it long to build? | 10:58 |
| dholbach | can't tell | 10:58 |
| dholbach | don't think so | 10:58 |
| herve | because I must go :( | 10:58 |
| herve | my machines gets just too slow | 10:58 |
| herve | but I have a package for you to upload before that | 10:59 |
| herve | here: http://deb.oursours.net/motu/pending/ | 11:01 |
| Burgundavia | dholbach: luxman failed on i386 | 11:01 |
| Burgundavia | just a sec, maybe me | 11:01 |
| dholbach | herve: will do | 11:02 |
| dholbach | Burgundavia: the one on my site? | 11:03 |
| Burgundavia | ya, but it was my fault | 11:03 |
| dholbach | aha? | 11:03 |
| dholbach | herve: thanks for fixing, uploaded | 11:06 |
| === tritium [~rimbert@71.98.92.94] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] | ||
| dholbach | Burgundavia: could you try to build again? | 11:07 |
| dholbach | or anybody else? | 11:07 |
| Burgundavia | am doing so now | 11:07 |
| dholbach | that stupid sim package is now building for 1h30m | 11:07 |
| herve | good night all! | 11:07 |
| dholbach | it's an icq clone *Grmbl* | 11:07 |
| dholbach | sleep tight herve | 11:08 |
| dholbach | and thanks for being here | 11:08 |
| herve | sorry but sleeping 5h a night is not enough | 11:08 |
| herve | +++ | 11:08 |
| Burgundavia | seems to have build find, installing | 11:08 |
| herve | and remember, cheer up!! | 11:08 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 11:10 |
| Burgundavia | built and installed, but it won't run | 11:10 |
| dholbach | hrmbl | 11:10 |
| Burgundavia | however, I don't trust that my system is sane anymore | 11:10 |
| dholbach | ok | 11:10 |
| dholbach | but if it built, i'm glad | 11:10 |
| Burgundavia | try a default setup | 11:10 |
| dholbach | upload it anyway | 11:10 |
| jani | crimsun I think I am getting closer to the xfprint bug | 11:15 |
| tseng | hi dholbach. | 11:17 |
| dholbach | hey tseng | 11:18 |
| dholbach | ha... sim built | 11:19 |
| tseng | so this new gdm theme | 11:20 |
| tseng | wtf is mark smoking these days | 11:20 |
| tseng | LAST MINUTE BONG HIT! | 11:20 |
| ajmitch_ | tseng: what does it look like? | 11:21 |
| tseng | ajmitch_: it looks like a joke | 11:22 |
| tseng | ajmitch_: see planet gnome | 11:22 |
| crimsun | jani: k, what's up? | 11:22 |
| tseng | davyd madly posted a shot | 11:22 |
| jani | looks like cups_plugin.so is not dlopenable | 11:22 |
| ajmitch_ | ah | 11:22 |
| ajmitch_ | same image as on the website | 11:22 |
| tseng | its also on the front page | 11:22 |
| tseng | yes | 11:22 |
| jani | missing symbol printer_free() | 11:22 |
| === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| jani | which is defined in common/printing-system.c | 11:23 |
| crimsun | hum! | 11:23 |
| jani | I think if they can be made to see eachother we're fine | 11:23 |
| jani | I did a quick 10 liner C program to dlopen so files and then dlerror to see what's the problem | 11:23 |
| jani | so from this standalone test it looks like plugin_cups.so is not built correctly??? | 11:24 |
| jani | maybe I am just tired and mistaken though | 11:24 |
| jani | xfprint might need a -Wl,E too? | 11:26 |
| === skyrider [~skyrider@195.128.178.150] has left #ubuntu-motu [] | ||
| crimsun | I hope not | 11:27 |
| crimsun | looking through the build log not | 11:27 |
| crimsun | now | 11:27 |
| crimsun | no, it already uses --export-dynamic | 11:29 |
| jani | hmm | 11:30 |
| jani | oh sure | 11:31 |
| jani | I loaded witha standalone program | 11:31 |
| jani | which did not provide printer_free | 11:31 |
| jani | :( | 11:31 |
| jani | back to square 0 | 11:31 |
| dholbach | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/w/wayv should be an easy fix for powerpc-folks | 11:32 |
| jani | ok so it is printer_free misising after all | 11:38 |
| jani | I rebuilt glib and scattered printf and dlerror says the same as ofr the standalone porg | 11:38 |
| jani | so it was ok since ld.so does all the relocations | 11:39 |
| dholbach | i look at toursst | 11:39 |
| dholbach | nevermind, was fixed | 11:39 |
| === mvo [~Michael@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu | ||
| dholbach | mvo: found anything nice on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo? :-) | 11:46 |
| mvo | dholbach: still looking through the list :) | 11:47 |
| dholbach | lists rather :-) | 11:48 |
| jani | crimsun it is printer_free something fishy about it | 11:48 |
| jani | objdump on cups_plugin says it is R_386_GLOB_DAT | 11:48 |
| jani | while most other external refs are R_386_JUMP_SLOT | 11:48 |
| jani | time to go read some docs :) | 11:48 |
| mvo | dholbach: what do you consider most importend? | 11:50 |
| dholbach | if i only knew | 11:50 |
| diamond | mvo: the stuff that isn't done ,-) | 11:50 |
| dholbach | ha... debuggtk ftbfs | 11:50 |
| dholbach | that's funny :-) | 11:50 |
| mvo | dholbach: in what list is it hidding :) ? | 11:51 |
| mvo | diamond: :) | 11:51 |
| dholbach | wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePriorityList | 11:51 |
| mvo | gee ... I'll make myself a cup of tea first | 11:53 |
| dholbach | and i'll browse the bugzilla entries marked as UNIVERSE | 11:54 |
| dholbach | ogra: do you know if graveman-0.3.10 fixed #8369? | 11:56 |
| ogra | dunno, i dont have variable encoded mp3's around...i'll tag it needinfo | 11:57 |
| ogra | the OP can probably tell | 11:57 |
| dholbach | grubconf needed to be chucked out, right? | 11:58 |
| ogra | uuuh, grubconf | 11:59 |
| dholbach | grill? | 11:59 |
| dholbach | toast? | 11:59 |
| dholbach | nuke? | 11:59 |
| ogra | YEAH | 12:00 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!