dholbach | ok | 12:01 |
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ogra | or do you want to test it with all possible ubuntu grub setups ? | 12:01 |
ogra | (thats a package that can really fuck your sytem if not working properly) | 12:01 |
dholbach | yeah maybe it will work with one of those 632.346 installs | 12:01 |
ogra | heh | 12:03 |
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dholbach | hey Dr_Aevil | 12:04 |
dholbach | dredg :-) | 12:04 |
dholbach | ogra: it has gone... :-) | 12:05 |
ogra | yeah | 12:05 |
dholbach | dredg: do you know anything about the status of your PythonTransition packages? | 12:06 |
dredg | dholbach: all should be taken care of i think | 12:07 |
dholbach | ok... there are still some in "being transitioned" | 12:07 |
dredg | oh, hmm | 12:07 |
dredg | mailping, toursst, jaxml are fixed either by me or someone else | 12:08 |
dredg | blender i had listed as problematic | 12:09 |
dholbach | hrm... hard to tell from apt-cache showsrc blender | 12:09 |
dredg | wow, who killed planet.u.c with the stick of ugly? | 12:10 |
dredg | dholbach: right, it requires python to build as scons is basically python | 12:11 |
dredg | it builds in pbuilder | 12:11 |
dredg | but on the buildd it fails because of ccache | 12:12 |
dredg | ccache requires $HOME to be set. scons nukes the environment | 12:12 |
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dredg | chicken. egg. chicken. egg. divide by chicken error. | 12:12 |
dredg | or something | 12:12 |
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dholbach | :-) | 12:13 |
diamond | dredg: hah. look at gcc-2.95. | 12:17 |
diamond | dredg: it depends on cpp-2.95 | 12:17 |
diamond | dredg: cpp-2.95 depends on, you've guessed it, gcc-2.95 | 12:17 |
dredg | diamond: that's allowed | 12:17 |
diamond | dredg: ok, but how? | 12:17 |
dredg | diamond: with enough crack anything is possible | 12:18 |
dredg | please apply the above egg/chicken formula. | 12:18 |
dholbach | compiler-bootstrapping | 12:18 |
dredg | diamond: nah, i know it's possible. i just dunno how :) | 12:18 |
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diamond | dholbach: should i just google? | 12:19 |
dredg | i could probably read german | 12:19 |
dredg | i think. it's been some time | 12:19 |
dholbach | if you want to know how it works | 12:19 |
dholbach | i'll have a look | 12:19 |
dredg | not especially :) | 12:20 |
dholbach | mvo can tell... he knows everything about compilers | 12:20 |
Mithrandir | uhm, what are you wondering about? | 12:20 |
Mithrandir | how to get gcc-2.95 to build? | 12:21 |
dholbach | german info: http://www.inf.fh-dortmund.de/concute/contents/personen/dozenten/buechter/folien/foliensatz.zip :-) | 12:21 |
diamond | Mithrandir: yeah | 12:22 |
Mithrandir | "don't care" not being an option? | 12:23 |
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diamond | Mithrandir: depending -) | 12:23 |
Mithrandir | gcc-2.95 is dead upstream and programs should just be ported if they're broken with newer gccs. | 12:23 |
diamond | Mithrandir: i'm inclined to agree, still tho | 12:23 |
dredg | dholbach: hmm, seems that it's been some time that i've had to read german :) perhaps it will come back to me some other time, when my brain is feeling less mushy and spongey | 12:24 |
Mithrandir | gcc can be built with more or less any c compiler, it's just a bit of hassle. | 12:24 |
dholbach | :-))) | 12:24 |
diamond | Mithrandir: aye, but the issue is that it build-deps upon itself. i don't understand why. | 12:24 |
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T-Bone | me again | 12:25 |
T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/multipath-tools_0.4.1-1_20050407-1343 <- fails in 'clean' target :P | 12:25 |
Mithrandir | diamond: probably because it's broken if you try to build it with any other compiler, 'cause it's broken by itself. | 12:26 |
jbailey | ajmitch: Apparently nscd is selinux aware. | 12:29 |
ajmitch_ | jbailey: ok.. I'll look that up | 12:30 |
jbailey | ajmitch_: I just happened to notice it fly by when running configure. =) | 12:31 |
jani | bbl | 12:31 |
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T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/torch-examples_2-3_20050407-1218 <- invalid build-dep, expecting libtorch-dev (>= 2.3). Versionned build dep on meta package, bad. Should be libtorch3-dev | 12:40 |
dholbach | out for a walk.. brb | 12:40 |
dholbach | T-Bone: torch-examples was removed | 12:40 |
T-Bone | dholbach: because of the ftbfs maybe? :) | 12:40 |
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dholbach | T-Bone: because of ETOOMUCHPAIN | 12:41 |
dholbach | brb | 12:41 |
T-Bone | oic ;) | 12:42 |
tseng | ENOMARYJ | 12:45 |
tseng | judging from your hackergotchi | 12:45 |
T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/wnn6-sdk_1.0.0-12_20050407-1249 <- that one might be looking for libwnn6.so.1.0.0 (at the end of the build) | 12:45 |
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T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/sprng_2.0a-2_20050407-1215 <- doesn't stop where it should | 12:48 |
dholbach | tseng: LOL | 12:49 |
haggai | dholbach: thanks, removed my and Riddell's tasks which are done in PythonTransitionTODO | 12:50 |
dholbach | haggai: ROCK | 12:51 |
T-Bone | are you guys interested in -fPIC issues? | 12:51 |
Mithrandir | yes | 12:51 |
T-Bone | oh | 12:51 |
T-Bone | you're gonna love me then :) | 12:51 |
T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/soya_0.9.1-2ubuntu1_20050407-1159 <- -fPIC | 12:51 |
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tseng | -fPIC affects amd64 | 12:56 |
tseng | so | 12:56 |
tseng | fix it :) | 12:56 |
T-Bone | oh sure i will | 12:56 |
T-Bone | if you grant me clearance to upload fixed packages ;) | 12:57 |
T-Bone | actually it affects amd64, ia64 and hppa, afaik | 12:57 |
T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/sagasu_2.0.5-1_20050407-1027 <- want old gnome? | 12:57 |
T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/ngspice_15-2_20050407-0844 <- broken clean target maybe? binaries left over the place (long log) | 01:00 |
T-Bone | i have also a bunch of XFree -> Xorg transition bug but i suppose you guys already know them | 01:01 |
dholbach | T-Bone: which ones? how old is your snapshot? | 01:02 |
T-Bone | i don't have a snapshot | 01:02 |
T-Bone | i'm up-to-date with current source tree, update every 3 hours | 01:03 |
T-Bone | (from a.u.c) | 01:03 |
dholbach | ok | 01:03 |
dholbach | fire away, which ones | 01:03 |
T-Bone | right now i'm stumbeling on iris and iterm, as it seems | 01:03 |
lamont_r | dholbach: there are some packages in the archive that haven't changed since they were built for warty... which means they've only been tried in hoary-test, and that was only partial, etc. | 01:04 |
T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/iris_0.12-1_20050407-0238 | 01:04 |
T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/iterm_0.5-3.1_20050407-0241 | 01:04 |
dholbach | lamont_r: yes... can imagine | 01:04 |
lamont_r | dholbach: those will be the ones that t-bone is hitting that you don't already have | 01:04 |
dholbach | take care of those | 01:05 |
T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/sppc_1.0.1-8.1_20050407-1212 | 01:05 |
dholbach | sppc seems not so trivial | 01:06 |
T-Bone | dholbach: in a general way, if you look at http://buildd.slashdirt.org/FAILED.html ignoring all KDE and mozilla stuff, you should find mostly stuff of interest to you guys | 01:06 |
diamond | nite folks. ye guys are doing an amazing job | 01:06 |
T-Bone | there are a bunch of hppa-centric issues, i'll give them some love ;) | 01:06 |
dholbach | diamond: you do too! | 01:06 |
dholbach | diamond: sleep tight | 01:06 |
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T-Bone | dholbach: most of the errors there are X, -fPIC, or general rules borkage; mostly | 01:07 |
dholbach | cool | 01:08 |
T-Bone | and per Lathiat's request, mod-gzip should (if i have set it up properly) compress the logs so that you don't have to dl multi-megs files ;) | 01:08 |
T-Bone | hping3 needs syncing btw | 01:10 |
dholbach | iris uploaded | 01:10 |
dholbach | hping3 should have been synced | 01:10 |
T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/hping3_3.a2-1ubuntu1_20050407-0232 <- FTBFS (endianness issue, doesn't show on debian) | 01:11 |
dholbach | iterm uploaded | 01:12 |
T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/mkhppa3/xfld-welcome_0.2-3_20050407-1421 <- looks like missing b-dep | 01:13 |
T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/mkhppa3/muscle_3.51-1_20050407-1420 <- utmost sweetness "-mpentiumpro", yum... | 01:14 |
dholbach | crimsun, jani: ^-- xfce stuff | 01:14 |
jani | yes? | 01:14 |
dholbach | xfld-welcome | 01:14 |
dholbach | sppc uploaded | 01:15 |
jani | I think it's ok we don;t need that package it's not part of xfce core | 01:15 |
dholbach | jani: shall it be removed? | 01:16 |
jani | yes | 01:16 |
T-Bone | i thought we were shipping all of debian main in universe? | 01:16 |
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dholbach | wiki/UniverseUnmetDeps still has some nice stuff :-) | 01:24 |
T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/mkhppa3/tightvnc_1.2.9-5_20050407-1211 <- most likely a rule issue. says : "To build Xvnc, do "cd Xvnc", followed by "./configure" then "make"", does "(cd Xvnc; /usr/bin/make World)" (lengthy log, issue at the end of course) | 01:26 |
T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/mkhppa3/xmms-alarm-bmp1_0.3.6-0.1_20050407-1224 <- busted source? | 01:27 |
T-Bone | http://buildd.slashdirt.org/logs/mkhppa3/blacs-mpi_1.1-23_20050407-1241 <- needs libmpich1.0-dev? (long log) | 01:29 |
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dholbach | xmms-alarm-bmp1 was removed afaik | 01:31 |
T-Bone | dholbach: ok. Of course, when a package is removed, the log remains, i have to purge them by hand :) | 01:31 |
dholbach | :-) | 01:31 |
T-Bone | i see you guys uploaded some stuff, autobuilders has just started :) | 01:31 |
T-Bone | s/has/have/ | 01:31 |
T-Bone | FAILED.hmtl is uploaded every 1/2h, and the 'needs-build' list every 3h, fyi | 01:32 |
T-Bone | have fun and keep up the good work, i'm off to bed ;) | 01:32 |
ogra | night T-Bone | 01:32 |
T-Bone | thx | 01:32 |
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jani | crimsun it looks like it was an -Wl,-E after all :) | 01:36 |
jani | I think it'll work :) | 01:36 |
jani | actually two, one for xfprint4 one for xfprint-manager | 01:37 |
schweeb | hiya everyone... how's progress on teh universe | 01:37 |
dholbach | hey schweeb | 01:37 |
schweeb | final job interview is tomorrow | 01:37 |
schweeb | yay | 01:37 |
dholbach | rocking! :-) | 01:37 |
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lamont_r | why can't you? | 01:39 |
ajmitch_ | because it's a work machine, not one of mine | 01:39 |
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schweeb | heh | 01:40 |
schweeb | I have my hoary workstation | 01:40 |
schweeb | s/workstation/laptop | 01:40 |
schweeb | and I have my warty workstation | 01:41 |
schweeb | and like 12 Debian servers | 01:41 |
schweeb | but soon, I'll be on a Solaris WS ;_; | 01:41 |
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lamont_r | when the boss told me I should leave windows on it (2 weeks after it arrived), I told him it was too late. | 01:47 |
jani | any MOTU please upload http://sourcecontrol.net/~jmonoses/hoary/xfprint4/ | 01:47 |
dholbach | jani: will do | 01:47 |
jani | fixes xfce print manager hurray! | 01:47 |
jani | I can go home and sleep now :) | 01:47 |
dholbach | ROCK! :-) | 01:48 |
jani | thanks dholbach, you're an angel (or something ;) | 01:48 |
dholbach | jani: 300th upload! :-) | 01:48 |
dholbach | with all my love to the XFCE crew :-) | 01:48 |
jani | congrats to the most prolific MOTU the universe has seen! | 01:48 |
dholbach | :-))))) | 01:48 |
schweeb | lamont_r: doing solaris admin, I kinda need a solaris workstation, sadly enough | 01:49 |
ogra | dholbach, WOOHOOO | 01:49 |
ogra | \O/ | 01:49 |
schweeb | dholbach: man, weren't you up to 200 just like a week and a half ago? | 01:49 |
lamont_r | schweeb: yeah, well.. | 01:49 |
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dholbach | jani: done | 01:50 |
ogra | schweeb, solaris ? | 01:50 |
ogra | how sad | 01:50 |
jani | crimsun, when you read this: thanks for fixing that 'quit' symbol problem :) I don't think I wouldn't have thought to this fix without remembering yours ;) | 01:50 |
jani | thanks daniel | 01:50 |
jani | goodnight all | 01:50 |
dholbach | any time :-) | 01:50 |
schweeb | ogra: it'll be a challenge, I'll have fun | 01:50 |
dholbach | sleep tight | 01:50 |
ogra | night jani | 01:50 |
jani | I'll have to come to work in the morning | 01:50 |
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Riddell | abakus is uploaded? | 01:53 |
ogra | yop | 01:53 |
dholbach | i'll look at gaphor | 01:53 |
Riddell | woo | 01:54 |
Riddell | thanks ogra | 01:54 |
Riddell | dholbach: nooo! gaphor sucks, Umbrello rules | 01:55 |
dholbach | Riddell: what do you think? for how many of the Universe packages do i have REAL LOVE? | 01:55 |
Riddell | dholbach: could you just make gaphor a meta package which depends on Umbrello? pretty please? | 01:56 |
dholbach | Riddell: only if you fix wiki/UniverseUnmetDeps | 01:56 |
ogra | Riddell, btw, how is the kubuntu testing coming along ? | 01:57 |
ogra | (are we there yet ?) | 01:57 |
dholbach | Riddell: i could have slapped umbrello in the face six times a day, when i wrote about an uni project :-) | 01:58 |
Riddell | ogra: I think we still need to test the amd CDs | 01:58 |
Riddell | and not having an AMD64 machine that's kinday hard to do | 01:58 |
ogra | dholbach, you didnt write pure latex in vim ? o_O | 01:58 |
dholbach | ogra: the uml diagrams by umbrello were a bit on crack | 01:59 |
ogra | Riddell, i have no media anymore....and a broken dvd rom that only boots from dvd... | 01:59 |
Riddell | dholbach: well I never noticed any bugzilla entries from you | 01:59 |
dholbach | Riddell: that was like 9 months ago | 01:59 |
dholbach | or even longer | 02:00 |
dholbach | dia was even more broken :-) | 02:00 |
Riddell | dia is pretty good, it's just ment for different things | 02:00 |
tritium | dia still is broken | 02:00 |
Riddell | and dia is a work of perfection compated to Kivio :) | 02:01 |
Riddell | compared | 02:01 |
dholbach | i used autodia, which was... i don't find appropriate words for it | 02:01 |
dholbach | my feelings towards it were, getting a huge club from somewhere | 02:02 |
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dholbach | Hvels rocks | 02:03 |
tritium | it was your recommendation that initiated my search | 02:04 |
dholbach | :-) | 02:04 |
mvo | yumm ... hvels | 02:04 |
dholbach | :-) | 02:05 |
dholbach | gaphor uploaded | 02:06 |
dholbach | anybody wants to join me fix the missing bits on UniversePythonTransitionTODO ? | 02:09 |
dholbach | i have a look at scalemail | 02:09 |
dholbach | scalemail fixed | 02:19 |
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dholbach | anyone an idea why http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/gaphor/0.5.1-2ubuntu1/gaphor_0.5.1-2ubuntu1_20050408-0139-i386-failed didnt work? | 02:48 |
dholbach | played nicely with my pbuilder | 02:49 |
crimsun | oh wow, so it was -Wl,-E ? great. | 02:49 |
crimsun | (thanks dholbach) | 02:49 |
dholbach | crimsun: hm? | 02:49 |
dholbach | for uploading? | 02:49 |
crimsun | dholbach: yep | 02:50 |
dholbach | np :-) | 02:50 |
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lamont_r | dholbach: nfc | 02:51 |
dholbach | that's what i thought | 02:51 |
lamont_r | dholbach: "because it hateses you" | 02:51 |
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ogra | oh, herzi | 02:52 |
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lamont_r | dholbach: how'd it do on the other architectures? | 02:52 |
dholbach | lamont_r: it's an all package | 02:52 |
dholbach | hi herzi | 02:52 |
ogra | herzi, i just uploaded hula, didnt expect you to come back tonight (you forgot to change the distribution from unstable to hoary) | 02:53 |
herzi | ogra: i'm on my way to bed | 02:58 |
herzi | bad alcohol... | 02:58 |
ogra | oh | 02:58 |
dholbach | so you had a release pre-party already :-) | 02:58 |
herzi | kindof | 02:59 |
herzi | weekly bar evening in the students doritory | 02:59 |
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herzi | good night | 03:00 |
dholbach | good night herzi | 03:00 |
dholbach | any low-hanging fruits in universe? | 03:02 |
tritium | Have a good night, everyone. | 03:03 |
crimsun | night tritium | 03:03 |
dholbach | bye tritium | 03:04 |
tritium | bye crimsun, dholbach :) | 03:04 |
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dholbach | hey StoneTable | 03:12 |
StoneTable | hey | 03:12 |
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kiko | hey dholbach? | 03:26 |
kiko | duderino.. | 03:29 |
ogra | kiko, he probably fell asleep in front of the keyboard.... :) | 03:30 |
dholbach | hey kiko | 03:30 |
kiko | wooo | 03:31 |
kiko | mdz tells me you have issues with gaphor | 03:31 |
kiko | still true? | 03:31 |
dholbach | yes | 03:31 |
dholbach | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/gaphor/0.5.1-2ubuntu1/gaphor_0.5.1-2ubuntu1_20050408-0139-i386-failed | 03:31 |
kiko | okay | 03:31 |
kiko | it's a broken pofile | 03:31 |
dholbach | and i don't have no clue at all | 03:31 |
kiko | were translations for it recently updated? | 03:31 |
dholbach | nope | 03:31 |
kiko | it only happens with boxes with lots of memory :) | 03:31 |
dholbach | just grabbed the sources from last build and changed some python2.3 -> python2.4 stuff | 03:31 |
dholbach | erm | 03:32 |
kiko | can I see a diff? | 03:32 |
dholbach | just a sec | 03:32 |
kiko | dholbach, is there only one pofile there? nl.po? | 03:32 |
dholbach | yes | 03:33 |
ogra | strange | 03:33 |
dholbach | --- gaphor-0.5.1/debian/control | 03:33 |
dholbach | +++ gaphor-0.5.1/debian/control | 03:33 |
dholbach | @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ | 03:33 |
dholbach | Section: devel | 03:33 |
dholbach | Priority: optional | 03:33 |
dholbach | Maintainer: Cdric Delfosse <cedric@debian.org> | 03:33 |
dholbach | -Build-Depends-Indep: debhelper (>= 4.0.0), python-dev, python-gtk2, python-diacanvas2, xvfb, xbase-clients, xfonts-base, xsltproc, docbook-xsl+Build-Depends-Indep: debhelper (>= 4.2.28), python-dev (>= 2.4), python-gtk2, python-diacanvas2, xvfb, xbase-clients, xfonts-base, xsltproc, docbook-xsl | 03:33 |
dholbach | that's not really much, hrm? :-) | 03:33 |
kiko | that's it?! | 03:33 |
dholbach | yes | 03:33 |
dholbach | and a changelog entry | 03:34 |
kiko | hmmm | 03:34 |
kiko | so it's breaking because a very large int is being supplied to struct.pack | 03:34 |
kiko | this large int is the number of messages in the pofile | 03:34 |
kiko | I was thinking this broke because of language packs | 03:34 |
kiko | no? | 03:34 |
mdz | unlikely | 03:35 |
mdz | language packs haven't affected the process yet at that point | 03:35 |
ogra | they dont pull strings from universe | 03:35 |
mdz | heh, that too | 03:35 |
ogra | (or do they ?? ) | 03:35 |
kiko | pushing strings is more relevant here :) | 03:35 |
mdz | ogra: they do not, but even if they did, they only act on the build tree at the end | 03:35 |
ogra | ah | 03:35 |
kiko | can I see the pofile in the tree where the crash happened? | 03:36 |
mdz | lamont_r might be able to arrange that | 03:37 |
dholbach | http://moz.gotdns.org/ubuntu/nl.po | 03:38 |
mdz | if this is due to some regression in python 2.4.1, there will be hell to pay ;-) | 03:38 |
mdz | dholbach: I thought it didn't fail for you locally? | 03:38 |
lamont_r | mdz: build dirs all purge automatically - I can go force the issue, but would prefer to drive home first, now that my dvd is done downloading | 03:38 |
dholbach | mdz: no it didnt, just wanted to supply the pofile in question | 03:38 |
mdz | I think kiko wanted to be sure it wasn't modified somehow during the build | 03:38 |
mdz | lamont_r: I'm sure dholbach has other things to keep him busy ;-) | 03:38 |
lamont_r | heh | 03:39 |
kiko | mdz, right. just sanity check that the pofile is fine -- if it is, then something in the msgfmt.py code is broken, but that's standard python.. | 03:39 |
lamont_r | running home now, back online shortly | 03:39 |
kiko | so I need to roll home too | 03:39 |
ogra | kiko, there is no single utf8 char in the po file | 03:39 |
kiko | ogra, and it's pretty short. | 03:39 |
ogra | yop | 03:39 |
dholbach | mdz: i collected all the low-hanging fruits in universe it seems :-) | 03:39 |
kiko | ogra, dholbach: I need to run off unfortunately; let me give you a pointer in how to track this down | 03:39 |
kiko | I suspect the pofile may be corrupt. | 03:40 |
kiko | if it's not, msgfmt is just being crazy and parsing it wrong | 03:40 |
mdz | hey | 03:40 |
mdz | I'm able to reproduce the failure here | 03:40 |
mdz | I'll do some debugging | 03:40 |
kiko | it may be that python2.4's included msgfmt.py works and gaphor's included copy is broken | 03:40 |
kiko | mdz, and it's a pristine pofile? | 03:40 |
ogra | only 10 strings ? must be a small program.... | 03:41 |
mdz | here's the code in msgfmt.py: | 03:41 |
mdz | output = struct.pack("iiiiiii", | 03:41 |
mdz | 0x950412de, # Magic | 03:41 |
mdz | [...] | 03:41 |
mdz | >>> import struct | 03:42 |
mdz | >>> struct.pack("i", 0x950412de) | 03:42 |
mdz | Traceback (most recent call last): | 03:42 |
mdz | File "<stdin>", line 1, in ? | 03:42 |
mdz | OverflowError: long int too large to convert to int | 03:42 |
kiko | yeah, same as: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/gaphor/gaphor/po/nl.po?rev=1.5&view=auto | 03:42 |
kiko | hmm. | 03:42 |
mdz | I don't think the pofile enters into it at all | 03:42 |
kiko | why doesn't that happen for me? | 03:42 |
mdz | that value can't be packed as "i" | 03:42 |
kiko | err, sorry | 03:42 |
kiko | err wait | 03:42 |
kiko | there's an L missing there | 03:43 |
kiko | oh-oh. | 03:43 |
mdz | I get the same behaviour everywhere I try | 03:43 |
kiko | that's the problem :) | 03:43 |
kiko | output = struct.pack("Iiiiiii", | 03:43 |
kiko | 0x950412deL, # Magic | 03:43 |
kiko | 0, # Version | 03:43 |
kiko | len(keys), # # of entries | 03:43 |
kiko | 7*4, # start of key index | 03:43 |
kiko | 7*4+len(keys)*8, # start of value index | 03:43 |
kiko | 0, 0) # size and offset of hash tabl | 03:43 |
kiko | that s the code in SVN: | 03:43 |
kiko | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/gaphor/gaphor/utils/msgfmt.py?rev=1.3&view=auto | 03:43 |
kiko | can someone find out where that L went? | 03:43 |
mdz | why is this code part of gaphor anyway? | 03:43 |
mdz | isn't there a 'pygettext' or such? | 03:43 |
kiko | hoho | 03:44 |
mdz | confirm that adding the L fixes the build | 03:44 |
kiko | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/gaphor/gaphor/utils/msgfmt.py?r1=1.2&r2=1.3 | 03:44 |
kiko | that's why: we're packaging an old version of gaphor. | 03:44 |
kiko | the more recent version includes a fix | 03:44 |
kiko | interesting that nobody else caught that one. | 03:44 |
kiko | oh, well -- thought it was a more exciting issue. :) | 03:44 |
mdz | so this probably broke with python 2.3->2.4? | 03:45 |
dholbach | i'll try packaging a new one | 03:45 |
kiko | hmm | 03:45 |
mdz | dholbach: would be simpler to apply the patch from CVS | 03:45 |
kiko | aha | 03:45 |
ogra | hmm, doesnt fail here on amd64... | 03:45 |
kiko | it used to be a futurewarning: | 03:45 |
kiko | >>> import struct | 03:45 |
kiko | >>> struct.pack("i", 0x950412de) | 03:45 |
kiko | <stdin>:1: FutureWarning: hex/oct constants > sys.maxint will return positive values in Python 2.4 and up | 03:45 |
kiko | '\xde\x12\x04\x95' | 03:45 |
kiko | that's 2.3. | 03:45 |
mdz | yep | 03:45 |
kiko | mdz, so yes. | 03:45 |
dholbach | mdz: we want NEW crack :) | 03:46 |
schweeb | heh | 03:46 |
kiko | mdz, it used to turn into a negative value, which was in itself pretty bad eh? | 03:46 |
mdz | dholbach: what kind of machine did you do your build on? | 03:46 |
dholbach | amd64 | 03:46 |
ogra | hehe | 03:46 |
kiko | hoho | 03:46 |
ogra | we're the blessed ones :) | 03:46 |
mdz | that still doesn't make much sense | 03:46 |
kiko | amd64's ints are long ints, aren't they? | 03:46 |
mdz | int on amd64 is still 32 bits | 03:46 |
kiko | hmmm | 03:47 |
kiko | maybe python2.4 is rigged to use long ints everywhere on amd64? | 03:47 |
mdz | at least in C | 03:47 |
kiko | don't you hate all these different codepaths? | 03:47 |
kiko | anyway, dholbach, mdz: can I help with anything else? | 03:48 |
mdz | kiko: you are released, thanks for the help | 03:48 |
kiko | thanks a lot | 03:48 |
kiko | hopefully you'll be released shortly too | 03:48 |
dholbach | sleep tight kiko | 03:49 |
dholbach | building new version :-) | 03:49 |
lamont | does that mean you don't need the file? | 03:51 |
dholbach | ok... gaphor-0.7.0.1 makes problems, i'll get the patch from cvs | 03:53 |
ogra | hmm, jani has put nvu on NEW packages and reviewed it himself ?? | 03:54 |
schweeb | lol | 03:54 |
schweeb | gg | 03:54 |
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dholbach | mdz: if you have the time, would you please try to check http://moz.gotdns.org/ubuntu/packages if it fails now? | 04:04 |
dholbach | although... i could just upload it and see :-) | 04:04 |
mdz | dholbach: dpkg-deb: building package `gaphor' in `../gaphor_0.5.1-2ubuntu2_all.deb'. | 04:05 |
dholbach | NICE | 04:05 |
dholbach | thanks a lot! | 04:05 |
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dholbach | uploaded | 04:06 |
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ogra | LOl | 04:07 |
ogra | dholbach, seen daniels on -devel ? we wont run out of transitions ;) he removes /usr/X11R6 in breezy ..... | 04:09 |
dholbach | ROCK | 04:09 |
ajmitch_ | good to see | 04:10 |
dholbach | and i already thought i was jobless | 04:10 |
dholbach | ROCK! | 04:10 |
ajmitch_ | ho long until release? | 04:10 |
dholbach | ogra: try installing hula via dselect/... | 04:10 |
ogra | 2h | 04:10 |
dholbach | ogra: works nice | 04:10 |
ajmitch_ | dholbach: as fast as you work, they can break universe faster ;) | 04:10 |
ogra | dholbach, why the hell sould i touch dselect ? | 04:10 |
dholbach | ajmitch_: we'll see :) | 04:10 |
ogra | should even | 04:10 |
dholbach | ogra: whatever you like | 04:11 |
dholbach | nostalgia... | 04:11 |
ogra | *shudder* | 04:11 |
ajmitch_ | XGl in breezy+1? ;) | 04:12 |
ogra | ajmitch_, work on it ;) | 04:12 |
dholbach | hopefully no wobble-stuff out of the box | 04:12 |
dholbach | i'll have a constant headache | 04:13 |
ajmitch_ | ogra: i'd just like to be able to use the warty cd I have on my desk here at work :) | 04:13 |
ogra | dholbach, you'll get used to it...people got used to XP, you know ? | 04:13 |
dholbach | no, honestly i don't know :-) *wobble* | 04:14 |
ogra | ajmitch_, start with convincing your boss :) | 04:14 |
ajmitch_ | at least the next server will be ubuntu or debian | 04:15 |
ajmitch_ | currently a RHEL rebuild :) | 04:16 |
schweeb | dholbach: you must be a masochist, using dselect | 04:16 |
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dholbach | no apt-get.org :'-/ | 04:17 |
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ogra | dholbach, still 1,5h | 04:18 |
dholbach | so what can we break in universe now? | 04:19 |
dholbach | any suggestions | 04:19 |
dholbach | i feel restless | 04:19 |
schweeb | dholbach: randomly morgue a package! | 04:20 |
schweeb | see what the effects are | 04:20 |
schweeb | heh | 04:20 |
crimsun | when is universe/multiverse frozen? | 04:20 |
mdz | dholbach: no apt-get.org? | 04:21 |
ogra | mdz, i thought elmo did it already... | 04:21 |
dholbach | mdz: i can see no build in lamont's buildlogs, so i assume the crack won't make it | 04:21 |
dholbach | schweeb: unfortunately elmo has a nice script telling him the reverse-depends :-) | 04:21 |
mdz | elmo has ~4 hours to make something happen, and still have 2 hours to allocate for builds | 04:21 |
dholbach | ~4h ? | 04:22 |
dholbach | then we're ok :-) | 04:22 |
lamont | mdz: if it just goes into hoary/universe, it'll just take off after the cron.daily that puts it there | 04:22 |
lamont | oh. nm | 04:22 |
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dholbach | let's add some desktop files! | 04:24 |
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crimsun | I must go get some coffee | 04:24 |
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ogra | dholbach, yeah, lets have a competition for the ugliest 30sec selfcreated icon and upload them ;) | 04:29 |
dholbach | hahhahhahaa | 04:30 |
dholbach | ogra: only problem: will take me half an hour to figure out how to work that .desktop file :-) | 04:30 |
schweeb | ogra: gotta be SVG though | 04:31 |
schweeb | that way it can be big AND ugly | 04:31 |
ogra | dholbach, just copy one over, who cares for menu entrys.... only thing that counts is a -desktop ile and a icon ;) | 04:31 |
dholbach | ogra: uuencode it? :-) | 04:32 |
ogra | schweeb, nah, only scanned pencil drawings as greyscale xpm | 04:32 |
dholbach | hahahahaha | 04:32 |
dholbach | "nach md kommt bld" | 04:32 |
ogra | yeah | 04:32 |
ogra | dholbach, my day was to bad....i'm allowed to become silly shortly before release | 04:33 |
dholbach | of course | 04:33 |
dholbach | lets make a MOTU project: fix gcompris or something else as nasty | 04:34 |
schweeb | eww | 04:35 |
ogra | *shudder* | 04:35 |
dholbach | schweeb: you pick one of our lists | 04:35 |
dholbach | ... one package ... | 04:35 |
dholbach | :-) | 04:35 |
schweeb | hrm? | 04:35 |
dholbach | i wasnt just talking :-) | 04:36 |
ogra | argh... hula is a novell advertisement... | 04:36 |
dholbach | ogra: there you go: replace the .xpms :-) | 04:36 |
ogra | lol, i doubt these are xpms | 04:36 |
dholbach | :-) | 04:37 |
dholbach | *CRY* | 04:38 |
dholbach | Obsidians I'm trying to use grubconf, and it always says "wrong password". What's going on? | 04:38 |
ogra | where what who ? | 04:38 |
dholbach | #ubuntu | 04:39 |
ogra | ML ? | 04:39 |
ogra | oh | 04:39 |
ogra | damned | 04:39 |
schweeb | I stay away from #ubuntu | 04:40 |
ogra | schweeb, you absolutely shouldnt | 04:40 |
schweeb | I don't feel like violating the CoC, which some of the stupidity in there would make me do | 04:40 |
dholbach | it's a challenge | 04:40 |
dholbach | :-) | 04:40 |
ogra | schweeb, these are our users, there you get your feedback | 04:40 |
schweeb | I occasionally have a short temper :) | 04:40 |
ogra | and see the bugs | 04:40 |
schweeb | ask StoneTable, my fuse is quite short at times | 04:41 |
ogra | ...and sometimes the fixes btw | 04:41 |
StoneTable | heh | 04:42 |
dholbach | HA, gaphor built! | 04:42 |
schweeb | I'm not the most patient person to educate people, so, I stay away | 04:43 |
schweeb | I have a low tolerance for idiocy | 04:43 |
ogra | schweeb, i didnt say you should talk on #ubuntu ;) | 04:43 |
schweeb | hehe | 04:43 |
StoneTable | and that's good for building up that tolerance | 04:44 |
schweeb | alright, next week, I'll be ready to plug away at some more important stuff again :) | 04:44 |
schweeb | anyone know if breezy devel is beginning immediately? | 04:45 |
ogra | woot, hula runs great | 04:46 |
StoneTable | The only word I've heard on that is that breezy should open up sometime after ubuntu down under | 04:46 |
schweeb | ahh | 04:46 |
schweeb | so after whip comes back all hyped up | 04:47 |
StoneTable | yep | 04:47 |
schweeb | hope sabdfl's got something really cool in mind for him | 04:48 |
ajmitch_ | hopefully I'll have some time free after UDU | 05:00 |
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dholbach | all sleeping? :-) | 05:46 |
ogra | nope | 05:47 |
dholbach | me nearly | 05:47 |
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ogra | sending myself mail *g* | 05:47 |
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dholbach | ;-) | 05:47 |
ajmitch_ | not sleeping yet :) | 05:47 |
ogra | to late :) | 05:47 |
ogra | already changed it | 05:47 |
schweeb | I keep forgetting to get myself a hula account | 05:48 |
dholbach | everybody have their own hula :-) | 05:48 |
schweeb | I'm too lazy to set it up | 05:48 |
ogra | but i'm really impressed, it absolutely runs out of the box...no need to tweak anything | 05:48 |
schweeb | I already have a nice mail setup going | 05:48 |
ogra | but all these novell logos are scary | 05:49 |
schweeb | ogra: give me an account :) | 05:49 |
ogra | ah, to lazy to fiddle with port forwarding on my router.... | 05:49 |
schweeb | heh | 05:49 |
schweeb | I could set up another UML with Hula on my server... but that's a lot of effort too | 05:50 |
ogra | schweeb, but its really only an apt-get .... | 05:50 |
schweeb | I already have a secondary Cyrus/Postfix server going | 05:50 |
dholbach | schweeb: me too | 05:50 |
ogra | nah, dont use it on a server... | 05:50 |
schweeb | dholbach: I use courier on my current mail server :) | 05:51 |
schweeb | but I want to switch to Cyrus | 05:51 |
schweeb | I really want to switch work to Cyrus... courier is horrible performance-wise (and I don't trust Dovecot) | 05:52 |
dholbach | cyrus is ok | 05:52 |
schweeb | it's quite full featured and fast | 05:53 |
schweeb | and hugely hugely scalable | 05:53 |
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schweeb | dholbach: man, you're up pretty late :) | 05:57 |
dholbach | yeah... i'll drop into bed soon | 05:58 |
ogra | schweeb, in fact its pretty early here ;) | 05:58 |
ogra | 05:57 | 05:58 |
ajmitch_ | dholbach: staying up for the release celebrations? | 05:59 |
schweeb | I'm a night owl myself :) 6am = late | 05:59 |
dholbach | yeah! | 05:59 |
schweeb | although I'm about to go to bed | 06:00 |
schweeb | and try to get on a regular sleep schedule | 06:00 |
dholbach | that's what i try next :-) | 06:00 |
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ajmitch_ | dholbach: going to take a holiday from release until UDU? you deserve it ;) | 06:01 |
schweeb | depending on the outcome of tomorrow's interview, I'll be taking a 5 day holiday from work myself :) | 06:02 |
dholbach | haha :-) | 06:04 |
schweeb | if you haven't been able to tell, I'm pretty hyped :D | 06:05 |
dholbach | thanks ajmitch_ :-) | 06:06 |
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dholbach | pals... i'm off to bed - enjoy the party, i'm too tired to be drinking, cheering and dancing with you - have a nice day, see you later | 06:18 |
schweeb | dholbach: lies! | 06:18 |
dholbach | hm? | 06:18 |
schweeb | you can never be too tired for drinking! | 06:18 |
ogra | ciao dholbach | 06:18 |
dholbach | :-)) | 06:18 |
schweeb | night | 06:18 |
schweeb | gute nachten or whatver the proper tense is in german :) | 06:19 |
ogra | -en | 06:20 |
dholbach | "Gute Nacht" - so nearly :-) | 06:20 |
dholbach | thanks | 06:20 |
schweeb | it's been 7 years since HS german class :-) | 06:20 |
dholbach | :-) | 06:20 |
dholbach | *wave* | 06:20 |
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jani | moring | 09:16 |
Treenaks | hi | 09:56 |
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koke | hi MOTUs! | 11:02 |
dredg | hey koke | 11:03 |
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dholbach | hey! how are the celebrations going? | 12:25 |
jani | hi dholbach | 12:28 |
dholbach | hey jani | 12:28 |
jani | my colleagues are updating their ubuntus at work :) | 12:29 |
dholbach | *ROCK* :-) | 12:29 |
jani | I have to convert a gentoo user today, I am dling kubuntu.iso :) | 12:30 |
Gervystar | i have just updated my machines here in the office. And during this weekend we'll be showing ubuntu at a local event here in florence | 12:33 |
d3vic3 | MOTU ROCKS | 12:42 |
dholbach | YEAH and you, d3vic3, ROCK as well! :-) | 12:42 |
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Burgundavia | sometime soon I have to start writing my talk as well | 12:44 |
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dredg | reminds me, must ask some local irish mirrors to sync | 12:47 |
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ajmitch | hi all | 01:04 |
dholbach | hey ajmitch | 01:05 |
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diamond | morning folks | 01:39 |
dholbach | hey diamond | 01:40 |
dholbach | :-) | 01:40 |
diamond | dholbach: how're things? -) | 01:40 |
dholbach | diamond: i'm writing mails to all the apt-get.org package maintainers, whose packages made it in | 01:40 |
herzi | mornin | 01:43 |
dholbach | herzi: how's your head? | 01:44 |
herzi | my head's fine, my back aches | 01:44 |
dholbach | why that? | 01:44 |
dholbach | bbl | 01:46 |
diamond | rather OT question: what time of the day is it that debian testing gets updated? | 02:11 |
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dholbach | hrm, shall i also write the apt-get.org guys, whose packages ftbfs? | 02:38 |
ogra | dholbach, come on....take a day off..... | 02:39 |
dholbach | ogra: i want to finish this :-) | 02:40 |
dholbach | and after that start some hacking on my thesis | 02:40 |
ogra | dholbach, this will never be finished | 02:40 |
dholbach | neglected it for far too long now | 02:40 |
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dholbach | ogra: a lesson i have yet to learn | 02:42 |
ogra | thats OSS :) | 02:42 |
dholbach | no, that's life | 02:42 |
ogra | heh | 02:43 |
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diamond | laters | 02:59 |
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desrt | Lathiat; word. | 03:00 |
desrt | :) | 03:00 |
Lathiat | desrt: up :) | 03:01 |
desrt | ok. i've had enough of this universe business. off to school. | 03:03 |
dholbach | you now already have enough? :-) | 03:03 |
desrt | it just came at a bad time | 03:04 |
desrt | my friend is defending his thesis at 10pm (55 minutes). gonna go watch :) | 03:04 |
dholbach | alright - have a nice day | 03:04 |
dholbach | and tell him "good luck" from me | 03:05 |
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crimsun | morning, MOTUs :) | 03:46 |
ogra | hey crimsun | 03:46 |
dholbach | hey crimsun! | 03:47 |
crimsun | hey ogra, dholbach :) | 03:47 |
tritium | hi crimsun | 03:47 |
crimsun | hi tritium :) | 03:47 |
tritium | ogra, that's the first I hear of needing 3X ram swap for hibernate. | 03:48 |
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tritium | I've had good success with my swap twice the size of my ram | 03:55 |
herzi | my swap is only the size of my ram and everything works | 03:56 |
Mithrandir | works fine for me with 2GB swap and 1.5GB memory | 03:56 |
tritium | herzi, including suspend-to-disk? | 03:56 |
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ogra_ | LOL | 03:56 |
dredg | hmm, hibernate... winter *is* coming | 03:57 |
Mithrandir | what's the difference? | 03:57 |
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bddebian | Morning folks | 03:58 |
crimsun | mo'n | 03:58 |
tritium | morning bddebian | 03:58 |
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herzi | Mithrandir: hibernate suspends to ram (which is faster) but still needs some power to keep up the data in the ram | 04:03 |
ogra_ | herzi, nope | 04:04 |
herzi | so please correct me | 04:04 |
Mithrandir | herzi: I call that suspend-to-ram | 04:04 |
ogra_ | herzi, hibernate suspends to disk | 04:04 |
Treenaks | ogra: suspend-to-ram suspends to ram | 04:04 |
ogra_ | Treenaks, yup | 04:04 |
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tritium | dholbach, so what kind of replies are you getting from apt-get.org maintainers? | 04:39 |
dholbach | all were very surprised | 04:39 |
dholbach | but like it so far | 04:39 |
dredg | dholbach: ping | 04:39 |
dholbach | pong | 04:39 |
tritium | did you end up using python-matplotlib from the apt-get.org repo? | 04:39 |
dholbach | tritium: no | 04:40 |
dholbach | dredg: pong | 04:40 |
tritium | dholbach, cool :0 | 04:48 |
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GheRivero | res | 05:04 |
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fabbione | dholbach: ping? | 05:31 |
dholbach | fabbione: pong | 05:32 |
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fabbione | ah you are around.... | 05:32 |
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dholbach | was it just a test? :-) | 05:32 |
=== p1nhead send infite pain to dholbach | ||
=== p1nhead driving him to painfull death | ||
p1nhead | now | 05:33 |
dholbach | what's wrong with you? :-) | 05:33 |
p1nhead | dholbach | 05:33 |
dholbach | i had enough pain already | 05:33 |
p1nhead | no.. i would be more warroied of what will be wrong with you soon | 05:33 |
p1nhead | dholbach: dpkg -p php-banana | 05:33 |
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dholbach | fabbione: did you sleep the last week? :-) | 05:34 |
fabbione | no :) | 05:35 |
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dholbach | fabbione: wait until i meet you... i'll mud-wrestle you when i'm through with pitti | 05:35 |
dholbach | ;-) | 05:35 |
fabbione | but you somehow managed to get elmo to import a package that is php-banana | 05:35 |
fabbione | php-banana - foobar | 05:35 |
fabbione | Foobar | 05:35 |
ogra | hehe | 05:35 |
fabbione | that doesn't really look good :) | 05:35 |
dholbach | ARG | 05:35 |
dholbach | ARG | 05:35 |
dholbach | ARG | 05:35 |
ogra | the glory of apt-get.org | 05:35 |
dholbach | but the maintainer already mailed me | 05:36 |
fabbione | dholbach: remember that i still have kernel access level to your machine... | 05:36 |
dholbach | fabbione: i don't care :-) | 05:36 |
fabbione | + another 1000 or more source packages | 05:36 |
dholbach | i'll make sure he'll fix it | 05:36 |
fabbione | ok | 05:36 |
fabbione | also.. let's talk anout haul | 05:36 |
fabbione | or hail | 05:36 |
fabbione | or whatever is spelled | 05:36 |
ogra | howl | 05:36 |
ogra | its a svn experimental package | 05:37 |
fabbione | i had some objections about his Dependency | 05:37 |
fabbione | because they are too strict | 05:37 |
dholbach | herzi: you're there? | 05:37 |
dholbach | fabbione: you mean the m-t-a/imap-server ones? | 05:37 |
dholbach | hahaha, now he left | 05:37 |
fabbione | dholbach: all the packages have a Dep: ({= Source-Ver}) | 05:37 |
ogra | jop, i know.... thats a fix for breezy, i added a warning to the package description | 05:38 |
fabbione | or something like that | 05:38 |
dholbach | fabbione: could you elaborate on what's wrong with that? | 05:38 |
ogra | fabbione, it should be a tech preview, for that aspect the package is quite well | 05:38 |
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fabbione | dholbach: too strict dependencies for no reason | 05:38 |
fabbione | making impossible to update one module only of the pkg | 05:39 |
ogra | dholbach, one security update of one of the libs howl depends on and the package is uninstallale | 05:39 |
fabbione | ogra: i am not complaining about the package | 05:39 |
fabbione | that was very good | 05:39 |
dholbach | fabbione: if you saw the code you'd want to make sure it's one version only :-) | 05:39 |
fabbione | the Dependencies were crap | 05:39 |
dholbach | i think it's a "security" measure :-) | 05:39 |
fabbione | dholbach: i wrote the comment on the wiki | 05:39 |
dholbach | ogra: which one? | 05:40 |
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dholbach | fabbione: i know and i really wanted to talk to herzi to fix it | 05:40 |
ogra | fabbione, hey, hit me | 05:40 |
ogra | fabbione, i decided it should go in | 05:40 |
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dholbach | but he was away and i then talked to miss vogt about the dependencies | 05:40 |
dholbach | just to have more opinions | 05:40 |
fabbione | ok | 05:40 |
fabbione | ok | 05:40 |
fabbione | you both got some pain | 05:40 |
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ogra | yeah, from you thats fine :) | 05:41 |
dholbach | fabbione: you now feel better? | 05:41 |
fabbione | next time i will power on the sodomotron | 05:41 |
dholbach | HAHAHAHAHAHAA | 05:41 |
fabbione | brb | 05:41 |
ogra | heh | 05:41 |
fabbione | i need a smoke | 05:41 |
dholbach | i can imagine | 05:41 |
fabbione | ogra, dholbach: you own a beer to elmo | 05:41 |
ogra | yeah, UdU will be wet | 05:41 |
fabbione | eheh | 05:42 |
fabbione | good | 05:42 |
dholbach | fabbione: yeah... talked to him aout it already | 05:42 |
AstralJava | Hi guys, how are the release parties going thus far? | 05:47 |
dholbach | ogra: re howl: which one | 05:49 |
dholbach | AstralJava: going to have a beer with mvo tonight | 05:49 |
ogra | dholbach, dunno...any dep... | 05:50 |
dholbach | ogra: which package? | 05:50 |
AstralJava | Right on. Have fun. Release going smoothly? | 05:50 |
dholbach | AstralJava: seemed so :-) | 05:50 |
AstralJava | At least I'm not getting anything on upgrades. :) | 05:50 |
ogra | dholbach, libssl0.9.7 is a good candidate | 05:51 |
ogra | (hula-manager) | 05:51 |
dholbach | what was with howl? | 05:51 |
ogra | howl ? | 05:52 |
ogra | err----> howl == hula ^^ | 05:52 |
dholbach | ogra dholbach, one security update of one of the libs howl depends on and the package is uninstallale | 05:52 |
ogra | yeah, sorry | 05:52 |
dholbach | all packages will have to be transitioned, if libssl0.9.7 should change | 05:53 |
dholbach | i don't know what you're talking about? :-) | 05:53 |
ogra | dholbach, they wont....universe is stable | 05:53 |
dholbach | ok, please tell me: what should i worry about? | 05:54 |
ogra | if you have libssl0.9.7.1 nothing needs to change if you have deps >= but it breaks with deps == | 05:54 |
ogra | so if libssl0.9.7 gets a security update, hula will likely be uninstallable | 05:55 |
dholbach | show me, where it depends == on libssl0.9.7 | 05:55 |
dholbach | some binary packages depend on (== ${Source-Version}) of hula's own binary packages | 05:55 |
dholbach | so it's alright | 05:56 |
ogra | ah, ok... then misunderstood fabios comment... | 05:56 |
dholbach | ok | 05:56 |
dholbach | i thought i had to worry :-) | 05:56 |
dholbach | phew... ;-) | 05:56 |
ogra | hmm, but if hula itself gets a security update we'll need to update the whole bunch, not only the broken package... | 05:58 |
dholbach | it's always that way, if you have a source package that has multiple binary packages | 05:58 |
dholbach | i'm out... see you later guys - and have fun at the parties! | 06:01 |
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herve | goooood... morning #motu! | 07:26 |
AstralJava | Morning. | 07:28 |
AstralJava | And congrats! | 07:28 |
AstralJava | :) | 07:28 |
ogra | hey herve | 07:29 |
herve | ? | 07:29 |
herve | well, you too :-) | 07:29 |
AstralJava | Hehe. :) I just thought it seemed appropriate. :) | 07:29 |
AstralJava | I'm just beginning this thing, but you guys sure have done an amazing job. | 07:30 |
herve | tell that to #u-devel too :-) | 07:30 |
AstralJava | I would, but I don't dare go there yet. :) | 07:31 |
AstralJava | You can forward my best wishes. :) | 07:31 |
herve | ho no, there're nice | 07:31 |
herve | congrats are welcome, for sure! | 07:31 |
AstralJava | Well, I might pop in at least for a while then. | 07:33 |
herve | no more daily update, I look forward to breezy opening! | 07:49 |
AstralJava | When is that anyway? | 07:49 |
AstralJava | Oh, and while on the subject, is Hoary altogether frozen now? I'm thinking about the packages, when I provide ones with correct .desktop entries, will they end up in Breezy? | 07:51 |
ogra | yup | 07:51 |
AstralJava | Right on. | 07:52 |
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motaboy | Hi all! | 08:11 |
AstralJava | Hello motaboy! | 08:13 |
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hsprang | hy! | 09:38 |
ogra | hi hsprang | 09:38 |
herve | hiya! | 09:39 |
hsprang | congratulations to the release! i've not been here since a while - real life and working on the next FAI debian release which will come this weekend, too :) | 09:40 |
hsprang | followed by a ubuntu-FAI release soon :) | 09:40 |
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AstralJava | hsprang: What's a FAI release, if I may ask? | 09:42 |
hsprang | AstralJava, FAI stands for Fully Automatic Installation - a debian package for - nah, you guess it :) - over the network and since the newest version on cd | 09:43 |
hsprang | AstralJava, http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ hmm, i wrote a howto page in the ubuntu plone howto center, but the compkete howto section is lost... | 09:46 |
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dholbach | hey! | 09:50 |
hsprang | AstralJava, ubuntu-FAI means only a FAI package for ubuntu that can install ubuntu, which the debian-synched package cannot without some tweaking | 09:51 |
hsprang | dholbach, hy - you missed my gratulation for the release! | 09:52 |
dholbach | oh... he... thanks :-) | 09:52 |
dholbach | we ALL did great work | 09:53 |
AstralJava | hsprang: Okay thanks, great to hear it's coming! ;) | 09:55 |
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dholbach | hey herzi | 10:07 |
herzi | hi | 10:13 |
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dholbach | woohoo! | 10:14 |
dholbach | i thought you were about to change the name? | 10:15 |
dholbach | easy-as-123.org or something? :-) | 10:15 |
herzi | yep | 10:15 |
herzi | but spotlight.org is taken, so i need to search for another cool name | 10:15 |
siretart | hi folks! | 10:17 |
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dholbach | siretart: ROCK | 10:17 |
siretart | :) | 10:17 |
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hsprang | does anybody here know, what happened to the howto section of the ubuntu website? | 10:37 |
hsprang | i once wrote a howto there, and now it's gone... | 10:37 |
dholbach | hsprang: argl :-/ | 10:38 |
sladen | hsprang: I think it's down at the moment | 10:38 |
dholbach | we had the big WIKI blowup | 10:38 |
AstralJava | Wiki database broke, what, week ago? | 10:38 |
dholbach | everything was reverted to a 3-days-ago--state | 10:38 |
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hsprang | is it already sure that the data's gone or just possible? or even sure it's there just not shown? | 10:39 |
trulux | shit... I'm having trouble hre | 10:40 |
AstralJava | AFAIK, they're gone. | 10:40 |
zombie_ | Hello everyone, does "hardware-monitor" actually works with Gnome 2.10? I'm getting crashes upon startup | 10:40 |
AstralJava | It does, yes. | 10:40 |
AstralJava | No wait. | 10:40 |
hsprang | the howto was in the support-> documentation-> howto section, not excatly in the wiki, but i just see it now looks different than 20 minutes ago... | 10:40 |
zombie_ | I even tried compiling from source, got the same results | 10:41 |
zombie_ | I know it didn't use to work in the past (found it in a message or something) | 10:41 |
AstralJava | I'm dl'ing it now. | 10:42 |
zombie_ | fine | 10:42 |
zombie_ | btw, where am I supposed to report bugs in universe? | 10:42 |
crimsun | malone | 10:42 |
dholbach | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | 10:42 |
crimsun | (see topic) | 10:42 |
zombie_ | thanks | 10:44 |
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zombie_ | sorry i had to quit | 10:51 |
zombie_ | AstalJava, did you check that package? | 10:51 |
AstralJava | I downloaded and installed it, but I can't find it. :) | 10:51 |
crimsun | AstralJava: how did you download it? | 10:51 |
zombie_ | I am not sure what you mean | 10:52 |
zombie_ | it's package hardware-monitor | 10:52 |
zombie_ | ah yes | 10:52 |
AstralJava | Yeah. I just thought it's something else. | 10:52 |
zombie_ | it's a gnome applet | 10:52 |
AstralJava | Right. | 10:52 |
crimsun | just add the applet to a panel | 10:52 |
AstralJava | Nope, crashes right away. | 10:53 |
zombie_ | i sent an email to the author | 10:53 |
zombie_ | he says that Ubuntu's package is broken | 10:53 |
zombie_ | but "someone" got it to work by compiling it from source | 10:53 |
zombie_ | i tried it, but din't work | 10:53 |
AstralJava | Hmm... | 10:54 |
zombie_ | i'll try that again later (after I upgrade everything to the latest version) | 10:54 |
AstralJava | Do you have a link to the sources? | 10:55 |
zombie_ | just a moment | 10:55 |
crimsun | apt-get source hardware-monitor? | 10:55 |
zombie_ | http://www.cs.auc.dk/~olau/hardware-monitor/ | 10:55 |
crimsun | or is pristine upstream necessary? | 10:56 |
zombie_ | http://www.cs.auc.dk/~olau/hardware-monitor/source/hardware-monitor-1.2.1.tar.bz2 | 10:56 |
zombie_ | I tried both actually | 10:56 |
siretart | hoary ROCK! finally my front usb ports work! | 11:00 |
dholbach | :-))) | 11:00 |
AstralJava | zombie: Going to compile in minutes. | 11:02 |
siretart | was really weid, sarge kernel left the ports dead.. | 11:02 |
zombie_ | ok | 11:02 |
zombie_ | going to try the compiled from source version | 11:04 |
zombie_ | maybe i'll have to quit gnome after that :-) | 11:05 |
siretart | WOAH, and even my tvcard was configured correctly. What kind of black magic are the kernel guys doing there? this was supposed to NOT work on my old card! | 11:05 |
zombie_ | ok, it crashed but at least gnome-panel survived (this time) | 11:06 |
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dholbach | with UDU, i guess :-) | 11:09 |
ajmitch | so we've got a 2 week holiday until then? | 11:10 |
dholbach | write some cool code, prepare some packages, upload them to debian, ... :-) | 11:10 |
ajmitch | time for me to upgrade my machines to the final hoary release then | 11:11 |
ajmitch | bbl :) | 11:13 |
dholbach | *wave* | 11:13 |
Mithrandir | ajmitch: probably over the weekend. | 11:17 |
AstralJava | I seem to be out of my head. I do ./configure, it succeeds, I do | 11:22 |
AstralJava | 'make', and it gives me errors. Am I missing something? | 11:22 |
crimsun | what are you trying to compile? | 11:23 |
AstralJava | hardware-monitor | 11:24 |
dholbach | good night pals, i'm off to bed | 11:24 |
crimsun | bye dholbach! | 11:24 |
dholbach | bye crimsun | 11:24 |
AstralJava | bye dholbach | 11:24 |
dholbach | bye AstralJava | 11:25 |
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zombie_ | well, dependencies probably | 11:26 |
AstralJava | Dan, I still have that problem with dual booting in an encrypted environment. Sucks really. | 11:26 |
crimsun | AstralJava: apt-get build-dep hardware-monitor | 11:26 |
AstralJava | Woo, yeah, that's probably it. 86 megabytes to download. :) | 11:28 |
zombie_ | oh | 11:28 |
AstralJava | Heh. | 11:29 |
AstralJava | Have I done something wrong? | 11:29 |
crimsun | (no) | 11:29 |
zombie_ | sounds too much I think | 11:29 |
zombie_ | but then... | 11:29 |
crimsun | absolutely not | 11:30 |
AstralJava | Well, my first Ubuntu (real) support case done. :) | 11:30 |
crimsun | apt-cache depends hardware-monitor | 11:30 |
crimsun | that contains _a lot_ of X Window System and GNOME devel packages | 11:30 |
AstralJava | I'm on my way heading towards a membership. :) | 11:30 |
zombie_ | :-) | 11:30 |
crimsun | great :-) | 11:30 |
zombie_ | I think I'll file a bug report and maybe contact the author again (some other day) | 11:31 |
AstralJava | Gotta tell you, never ever have I been so enthusiastic about something inside my field of profession. | 11:31 |
AstralJava | Ubuntu completely turned it for me. | 11:31 |
zombie_ | great | 11:32 |
AstralJava | zombie: Can ya wait until I get mine compiled? | 11:32 |
zombie_ | of course | 11:32 |
zombie_ | it's better to have this double checked anyway (in case I am doing something wrong) | 11:32 |
AstralJava | By the way, you're not from Australia, are ya? | 11:32 |
zombie_ | no | 11:33 |
AstralJava | 'k. | 11:33 |
zombie_ | i am a .gr guy | 11:33 |
AstralJava | There was this guy on UserFriendly who just used the same nick. | 11:33 |
AstralJava | Right on, Greece rocks. | 11:33 |
zombie_ | I see | 11:33 |
zombie_ | heh :-) | 11:34 |
AstralJava | Got a very, very good friend in there. | 11:34 |
zombie_ | Really? | 11:34 |
AstralJava | Kostas lives in Athens nowadays, and will be visiting this next summer again. | 11:34 |
zombie_ | Lucky guy (if you can cut on the expenses) | 11:35 |
AstralJava | HEheh. :) | 11:35 |
AstralJava | He's cheap, why else would he be my friend. ;) | 11:35 |
zombie_ | :-) | 11:35 |
AstralJava | Okay then, ./configure seems to do much better a job this time. | 11:37 |
AstralJava | *pout* | 11:37 |
AstralJava | make still won't succeed. | 11:37 |
zombie_ | The author says "./configure --prefix=/usr; make; make install" should do it | 11:38 |
AstralJava | Hang on. | 11:38 |
zombie_ | did you make clean or something? | 11:38 |
AstralJava | No, I untarred it in my /home, then did ./configure | 11:39 |
AstralJava | I shouldn't do this, but I'm too tired and didn't read any notes. | 11:40 |
AstralJava | Can ya see I'm still wet behind my ears? ;) | 11:40 |
zombie_ | Do you by any chance have another (other than Ubuntu) distro with Gnome 2.10? | 11:40 |
AstralJava | Nope. | 11:40 |
zombie_ | I think it could be a problem with gnome 2.10 <-> hardware-monitor but i won't know until i try it | 11:41 |
zombie_ | maybe i'll try a warty+hardware-monitor and see what happens (i have a spare partition and too much free time) | 11:41 |
AstralJava | Heh, do that. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. | 11:42 |
zombie_ | no problem | 11:42 |
AstralJava | Still in my learning phases... | 11:42 |
zombie_ | someone has to matters in his own hands | 11:42 |
zombie_ | I just hoped this someone wouldn't be me! :-) | 11:42 |
zombie_ | anyway thanks for your time | 11:43 |
zombie_ | gotta go now | 11:43 |
AstralJava | Ok, see ya. | 11:43 |
zombie_ | bye | 11:43 |
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tseng | yawn | 11:57 |
tseng | when is breezy open | 11:57 |
ogra | tseng, shortly after breezy-backports is up | 12:01 |
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