=== azeem_ [~mbanck@ppp-82-135-13-128.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TechJournalist_ [~chatzilla@d141-133-19.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ggi [~ggi@ggi.base.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nullaresnata [~maia@cb-217-129-175-184.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nullaresnata is away: estou noutro lugar qualquer. === blahrus [~blahrus@12-223-50-121.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cybrjackle [~justinc@CPE-65-28-47-173.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:26] libpt locked my amd64 box on new install and reboot upgrade, now dpkg appears to be messed up === Arrogance [~aks@CPE0050ba556e4b-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === milli [~milli@m010f36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === guido_ [~guido@d057157.adsl.hansenet.de] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Verlassend"] === dhonn [~dhonn@rrcs-66-27-52-190.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fgx [~fgx@host134-170.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === digale-tambien [~me@200.126.71.101] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:59] why can't I delete /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers ? please help === koke [~koke@rm-001-26.serve.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:00] obviusly ?m trying to delete it with sudo :) [01:00] root@kin:~# rm /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers [01:00] rm: no se puede efectuar `lstat' sobre /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers: Permiso denegado [01:07] ubuntu's mozilla uses debians default start page instead of ubuntus [01:08] Declare it a security risk. :) [01:09] dhonn: ubuntu ships firefox === T-None is now known as T-Bone === RastaMahata [~alvaro@pc-200-74-15-203.nunoa2.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:10] a simple question, hoary's main is already frozen forever? [01:10] (expect for security updates) [01:10] except [01:10] I just discovered a bug on update-notifier's translation to spanish [01:10] a bit late I guess ;) [01:11] dhonn, ubuntu's mozilla (not firefox) contains some references to Debian; see Bug #1949 [01:11] koke estoy teniendo un problemilla, como root no puedo borrar este archivo: rm /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers, y cuano instalo gdm necesita borrarlo y no puede [01:11] hay algo raro ahi [01:12] digale-tambien: english please [01:12] Mithrandir I said it in englush and you didn't help me. [01:12] here's an opinion of my problem: [01:12] dcraven digale-tambien, okay that's just whacked. [01:13] "koke, im having a bit of a problem, as root i cant delete this file: rm /ver/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers, and when I install gdm it needs to delete it and it cant" [01:13] thanks rasta [01:13] no problem [01:13] =) that's it. :/ [01:14] digale-tambien: since there are more english speakers than spanish in the channel is just more porbable you'll get an answer by writing in english [01:14] ok [01:14] so... bugzilla? === RastaMahata is chilean... :o [01:14] security update? [01:14] re-install it? [01:14] is yo tb :) [01:15] RastaMahata me too :) === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.134.11] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:15] anyway, I was just here to say that I'm unable to see devices in "computer:///" mounted on /media, when mounted from fstab. I hope you fix this :) === seb128_ [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-39-219.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:18] RastaMahata, you may need to provide more information about your system in an actual bug report on the bugzilla site. [01:19] This isnt a common issue. [01:19] really? ok, I'll look in the bugzilla site. Thanks zendog [01:19] zenwhen* [01:19] (damn tab key) [01:19] no prblem sir [01:19] morning all [01:20] mornin [01:20] morning jdub [01:20] How are you doing jdub [01:20] i feel like a car crash ;) [01:20] as do I, but thats because I am sick and all nyquiled up [01:20] that reminds me of an U2 song [01:21] jdub: I asked seb128, but not you -- do you know of any plans on a "location" kind of applet? [01:21] or "places" [01:21] Mithrandir: pkgconfig 0.16 breaks a whole bunch of GNOME stuffs :/ [01:21] seb128_: uhm, like what? [01:21] there are so many bugzilla pages about it, and the final release of hoary it wasn't fixed, cool... [01:21] =) [01:21] I've made, at january, a bugzilla page about it, nad it wasn't fixed [01:21] ;) [01:22] Mithrandir: configure.in:131: error: possibly undefined macro: dnl [01:22] ross: its pkgconfig 0.16 [01:22] seb128: ah ah [01:22] ross: you can't put dnl inside the stuff to check there [01:22] ross: gtk does this: [01:22] ross: PKG_CHECK_MODULES(BASE_DEPENDENCIES, [01:22] [glib-2.0 >= glib_required_version dnl [01:22] atk >= atk_required_version dnl [01:22] pango >= pango_required_version] ) [01:22] ross: there is too much quoting, dnl doesn't get expanded with 0.16 [01:22] blah, ok. [01:22] I should fix that, then [01:23] several gnome people using debian are complaining than the CVS doesn't build now [01:23] does too. :P [01:23] you should probably not let this version going to sarge [01:23] oh, gnome cvs, you mean [01:23] I guess so. [01:23] yeah, the GNOME package just ./configure && make [01:23] packages even === Mithrandir blames scott === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.134.11] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:25] seb128_: ha ha, hordi's blog :) [01:25] yeah, nice one :p === digale-tambien [~me@200.126.71.101] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:26] Mithrandir: location/places applet? what kinds of locations/places? [01:26] Mithrandir: like wifi? [01:26] jdub: "home", "work", "wireless at parent's" [01:26] or network profiles? [01:26] yeah [01:26] okay [01:26] jdub: yes, except it's not just network [01:26] so you can try netapplet now [01:26] but it's pretty yucky [01:26] we didn't ship it by default for hoary [01:26] but say I want to have another background if I'm at the university than at home [01:26] jdub: no, he wants the whole config [01:26] for breezy, i think we're going to be looking pretty hard at NetworkManager [01:27] WTF! when I restarted my pc, gdm blocked the /var/lib/gdm direcotry, I can't do: ls as root, I can't delete nothing at that direcotry, how can I unlock it? [01:27] which will let you do things beyond network [01:27] please help, I'm using hoary... [01:27] seb128: that's just because it used to do improper quoting, I think. [01:27] Mithrandir: look at the example I give [01:28] what is wrong with it ? [01:28] seb128: I don't know m4. :P [01:28] Mithrandir: the fact is, that it breaks a whole bunch of stuff [01:28] but to me, it looks like you're quoting dnl [01:28] heh, archive.ubuntu.com seems a little slow ;) [01:28] and I don't get a reason to break, that used to work [01:28] jdub: when do we open breezy ? [01:28] seb128: dunno :) [01:28] jdub: people need the crack :) [01:29] I'm going to cry, gdm blocked that direcoty, and now I cant reinstalll gdm by this, 'cause gdm reinstallation needs to delete the files at /var/lib/gdm, and it cant :( jdub help me please [01:29] seb128: worked by accident, I guess. === seb128 wants to upload evince 0.2.0 [01:29] how can I unlock it? I don't want to reinstall hoary :/ [01:29] seb128: what happens if you just remove the dnl from there? [01:29] Mithrandir: but works for ages, that's quite rude to break now [01:29] moo [01:29] seb128: the upstream version was ancient. [01:29] Mithrandir: that works, but your force a lot of people to fix stuff [01:30] digale-tambien: that question would be more appropriate in #ubuntu [01:30] seb128: sorry about that, if you can provide me with a pkg.m4 which fixes it, I can look at it. [01:30] :( when I do,as root, rm -rf /var/lib/gdm I get Permission Denied [01:30] hrm... 3.4GB... /me needs more to put on this... [01:30] jdub, sorry, I know, but there I dint get support about it. [01:30] Mithrandir: k, I'll have a look tomorrow, that's time to sleep for now [01:31] thanks [01:31] digale-tambien: please try again; it is not appropriate here [01:31] seb128: sure. [01:31] jdub mm Im bored of this, nobody wants to help me about it... [01:33] jdub: so nm might have all the crack I want? [01:33] zenwhen, The problem I was talking about gets fixed when I do this: "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart" [01:33] just so people know :) [01:33] or it gets fixed soon! :D Good luck! [01:34] do you have to run this command on each boot? [01:34] I dont know that yet, I was going to reboot after I purge some old config files... [01:34] Mithrandir: it provides the platform for your crack, yeah ;-) [01:34] jdub: yay. :) [01:34] digale-tambien, #ubuntu is for help [01:35] Burgundavia I know, there NOBODY helped me, thanks to remember me that. [01:35] zenwhen, ill reboot, come back here and hope I dont need to do this again [01:38] wtf, I don't wanna use debian :'( [01:38] hm, boo looks interesting [01:38] Mithrandir: debian bo? [01:39] I like ubuntu, but its support... and I don't know why happens [01:39] maswan: http://boo.codehaus.org/ [01:39] Mithrandir: you guys going to base the next ubuntu release on bo? :) [01:39] maswan: :P [01:39] digale-tambien: Okay to msg you? We could try and work this out and not bother #u-devel... [01:40] yep, please :) [01:42] maswan, nope, rex === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.134.11] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:43] ogra: rex is the one before? [01:43] yop === maswan is young enough in the debian enviroment to not have seen that === ogra started with rex [01:44] I might have skipped bo for this new and fancy hamm, but I was aware of it === maswan looks at the numbers === Mithrandir started with potato [01:45] nope, 1.3, started with bo, might even have cds from cheapbyte around to prove it. :) === jordi started with Bo [01:46] a few months later hamm was released [01:46] hmm, I seem to assume now that all Debian releases have taken 2 or 3 years [01:46] heh [01:46] at that time, we even had a release cycle :) [01:47] the scary thing is that Gimp seems to have gotten a release cycle [01:47] yeah [01:47] heh, yes === Flonne started with Potato. :( [01:48] Flonne: that's quite some time ago already :) [01:48] I remember the Gimp 1.2(?) release topic: "Gimp - We make Debian's release cycle seem fast." [01:48] hehe [01:49] heh [01:49] Flonne: I was just talking about a Potato box I have to upgrade soon [01:49] 1.2 took a while yeah [01:49] SuperQ: I've given up on upgrading my potato box... [01:49] jordi: well.. yea.. [01:49] basically because it's a 80386 :) [01:49] jordi: it's getting "upgraded" to CentOS [01:50] it's also geting all 900GB of disk replaced with a Fibre San [01:50] hey jordi [01:50] ajmitch: hi andrew [01:50] I remember speed-installing.. hmm.. probably slink, from floppies, me and another guy, one sitting ready to eject the floppy, the other ready to press enter. :) [01:51] maswan: haha.. I think I did that back in the day with Bo [01:51] ok, I know Ubuntu has had it since day one, but I'm pretty excited about Debian getting GNOME 2.10 rigt now [01:51] this is so old news in Ubuntu... [01:51] Bo was a huge step up from Slackware 96 [01:52] SuperQ: I used slackware around 96-97, before seeing The Light. :) [01:52] aye [01:52] me too [01:52] SuperQ: for me it wasn't so bad, as a learning experience, since you had to do everytihng by hand [01:53] you learned quite a lot with debian 1.3 anyway === pvh [~pvh@S010600121729b5b8.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:53] I remember when I first got my soundcard working. [01:53] it was like a fscking miracle [01:53] I just mentioned this a minute ago in #ubuntu, but it's probably better suited to here. === jordi now looks at hotplug and alsa-base... [01:53] and, well, PCI cards. [01:53] we are spoiled. [01:53] I was thinking of bootup process, having real _packages_, etc. [01:53] jordi: going to UDU? [01:53] In the past couple weeks I've lost the ability to launch programs from gnome panel. [01:54] ajmitch: no way :( [01:54] ah :( [01:54] I can't take that week off at work, it's way too busy these days :/ [01:54] It tells me that it can't fork because it's out of memory. [01:54] ajmitch: I was invited :| [01:54] But I have no such problem when running from the command line. [01:54] yeah, it would have been good to see you there [01:54] one of my dreams is going to .au, missing this opportunity hurts. [01:54] jordi: hehe.. you know.. I never had much trouble getting my SB-16 working [01:55] SuperQ: which version of Debian? [01:55] jordi: I feel kind of sorry for dumping a sarge/testing thingie on my sister, a couple of months before the warty release even. :) [01:55] I had my SB-16 working with Slack [01:55] jordi: I started with Slack in 94-95 [01:55] SuperQ: nod [01:55] SuperQ: I can't remember what I found so tricky... [01:55] jordi: dabbled with RedHat 4.x for alpha [01:56] I guess ISApnp wasn't on the kernel even [01:56] jordi: and finaly switched to Bo back in the day [01:56] nod === rubyier [~rubyier@201009180007.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:56] 1.3 or 1.3.1? [01:56] I don't remember [01:56] I think my bo cd was 1.3.1 [01:56] I have it around somewhere [01:56] jordi: so was mine [01:56] I love these conversations :) [01:57] I seem to remember trying out rh-something (4?) and it lasting all of 45 minutes before I started rm -rf:ing /etc and so on out of pure frustration :) [01:57] I remember the libc5->libc6 ugrade script. IIRC it was called "update.sh" and it was scary. [01:57] I didn't really become involved in stuff until 99:ish though [01:58] maswan: as in DD? [01:58] the first incarnation of my main server (nerp.net) was RH (4? 5?) on a Jensen (DECpc 150) alpha architecture [01:58] me neither [01:58] man was that box cool [01:58] 64 bit! [01:58] back in 1997 [01:58] jordi: No, as a more clueful guy and starting around messing with acc.umu.se stuff, including the ftp mirror [01:58] I remember having that fail... [01:58] maswan: *nod* [01:59] I guess I started doing stuff late 98 and applied for DD in 99 [01:59] hmm.. we did have a computer association in high school before that though, and the fall of 97 or so I installed debian on machines with too small harddrives, think it was 386s with 20 megs [01:59] I remember watching star extract the base and rm:ing "unnecessary" files so everything would fit. :) [02:00] hehe === mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:00] and getting it wrong, rm:ing the file currently being extracted, making star die horribly and you had to do it all over again. :) [02:00] I think I installed in December 1997 [02:00] maybe November. [02:01] we had a server though, a sparcstation LX with 64 megs of ram. ;) [02:01] I didn't become a DD until last month. :) [02:01] 64! holy crap, that's huuuuuuge [02:01] jdub: exactly. :) [02:01] jdub: hey dude! [02:02] lol [02:02] it was much faster to telnet to it and run all the commands there, than doing them locally. :) [02:02] once upon a time, 64MB RAM seemed limitless [02:02] Tags added: wontfix [02:02] now I work on machines where 64GB ram is not so big [02:02] we still get bugs about gnome modules losing functionality [02:02] jordi: heh [02:02] maswan: hehe [02:02] 64 MB is still plenty. You just need to know how to manage it. [02:02] heh. I also remember one of my first thingies I did at ACC, filling up a memory board with 48 1-meg 30-pin memory modules. :) [02:02] I feel young now, around you people ;) === chris38-home [~Christian@82.127.81.96] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:03] Heck, 8 is still enough for ome of my systems. :) [02:04] % free -k [02:04] total used free shared buffers cached [02:04] Mem: 510707296 312700704 198006592 0 144 216268096 [02:04] -/+ buffers/cache: 96432464 414274832 [02:04] hahahahahahah [02:04] I think that was ftp.acc.umu.se back then, waaay back in 98. :) [02:04] jdub: when is the wedding? [02:04] time flies. [02:04] then we upgraded it to a dual supersparc at 50MHz and took on ftp.gnome.org. :) [02:05] maswan: cool [02:05] kids, this was the beginning of the Swedish Conspiracy. [02:05] jordi: we've always had more bandwidth than server for that, today we ran out of server too. :) [02:06] heh [02:06] there is no swedish conspiracy [02:06] of course, we seemed to hit bandwidth limits at about the same time, but that's juts an incentive for the networking guys to improve it. :) [02:07] anyway, bediime here. [02:07] Is it possible to get the nvidia 1.0-6111 drivers in the repository, every version after that crashes with some LCD displays [02:07] ah, indeed it is [02:07] congrats all for the Hoary release, I still had not done that :) [02:07] 'night jordi === jordi will continue helping seb210 tomorrow... [02:08] I wonder how big that bandwidth spike would have gone if we had had enough server and bandwidth to meet demand. :) === marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:12] jordi: 17th [02:12] hi dudes. Is anyone else getting the gnome splash screen remaining on their desktop? Does anyone know how to resolve this problem? [02:13] jdub, what do you think about double clicking on cd/dvd icons on the desktop opening cdplayer/totem? === mpt [~mpt@203.86.197.132] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:20] hey in gnome do you think some tools in Application->System Tools belong in System->Admistration? [02:21] dhonn, maybe one of them [02:21] dhonn, if we would think that we would have done it [02:22] heh [02:22] of course [02:22] add/remove programs maybe [02:22] its like applets vs applications too === nullaresnata [~maia@cb-217-129-175-184.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RastaMahata [~alvaro@pc-200-74-15-203.nunoa2.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:24] zenwhen, nope, after a reboot i dont get to see my mounts in computer:/// [02:24] sorry for the delay [02:25] it can get kind of confusing really === tritium [~mrimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:25] so everytime i get into X, i need to "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart" [02:25] configuration editor can go [02:26] dhonn, thats a tool to adjust your personal desktop settings, why should it be in the system menu ? [02:27] dhonn: those two menus could be merged, really === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.134.11] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:27] its seams like a system related task, i mean its not normal to to use that editor [02:27] gconf should be abolished full stop ;) [02:27] its like regedit [02:28] but its in the right place in the menu [02:28] dhonn, did you ever use regedit ? [02:28] yea i had to type it in Run [02:28] dhonn, and did you use gconf-editor ? [02:29] yea [02:29] Actually, now that I look at it, a large chunk of the "System Tools" should just be Nautilus menu items [02:29] i dont think these are comparable at all [02:29] "File Browser" should be replaced by an item in Nautilus's View menu [02:29] Floppy Formatter replaced by an item in Nautilus's File menu [02:30] Run as different user, ditto [02:30] mpt, file browser is already in the context menu === cjb [~cjb@islay.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:30] mpt, they should be integrated === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:30] ogra: Which isn't convenient if you already have the folder open :-) [02:30] and if you don't have its parent open (which is, alas, more likely in Ubuntu than in other Gnome distributions) [02:31] mpt, its just in the apps menu because there was a huge user request for a browsr like option to start nautilus [02:31] hey [02:31] ogra: If browse mode was remembered for individual folders, like icons and list modes are, that wouldn't be necessary. Nautilus would just remember what you used last time. === T-Bone is now known as T-None [02:33] ... and "New Login" belongs in the same menu as Log Out [02:33] mpt, i dont like or use browser mode... but i understand the demand that was there... and i think using two different menus for different targets is ok... [02:34] Nautilus -> View -> Browser Mode? [02:34] the "new login" should be in the logout splash or a screensaver option....shouldnt be in any manu, but these options are not there yet [02:34] ogra: I'd use browser mode more often if I could open a folder, see "oh, this is a folder with lots of subfolders in it, it'd be more convenient to browse it", and just choose View > as Browser. [02:34] dhonn: right [02:35] mpt, understood...and it would be a cool option indeed... [02:36] Well, if you're willing+able to implement it, stick your patch on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170546 :-) [02:38] mpt, lets see, i also want to add cursor theme selection to the mouse or theme properties, enhance the screensaver and have to care for hwdb before breezy.... but probably if some time is left :) [02:39] nautilus is intersting code :) === siimo [~siimo@siimo.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:39] how do you guys just jump right in? [02:40] dhonn, look for annoyances and try to get them out of the way is my biggest motivation ;) [02:40] dhonn: you just do :) [02:42] i contributed 2-3 lines of code to this release [02:42] lol [02:42] dhonn: or you could start small and work you way up to be the next ogra [02:42] dhonn, good start :) [02:42] or you start to break stuff like i do [02:43] oh, breaking stuff is essential ! [02:43] especially kernel related [02:43] i play with the code alot [02:43] ogra: enhance the screensaver how? === mpt thinks cursor theme selection is crack, so he won't comment on that [02:44] mpt, lets see, i'll have to talk to jdub in UdU, who will clearify some stuff with keithp afaik.... [02:44] Heres an Idea i thought of this morning: I wanted to make an opengl enhanced live background [02:44] zul: sometimes breaking stuff is the only way to properly fix it :) [02:45] ogra: you're coming? [02:45] mpt, a "login as new user" option in the lock window for example [02:45] jdub, YEAH :-D [02:45] schweeb: or to get people's attention [02:45] ogra: rock! i didn't think you were [02:45] jdub, waiting since 19 years to see your country :) [02:46] hi [02:46] ogra: Oh, right ... Yeah, there's lots about that window that needs changing :-) [02:46] hey tseng how is it going? [02:46] ogra: bah, I've seen enough of .au already ;) [02:46] zul: good thanks [02:46] ogra: rad :-) [02:46] mpt, ah, come on, i already changed a lot :) [02:46] ogra: staying for longer than UDU? [02:47] jdub, i fly with the other germans (dholbach etc) some days earlier.... [02:47] ogra: I hope you have a good time [02:47] ogra: You did? Were you the one who got rid of the "APPROVED" crack? [02:47] plenty to see in sydney, I heard [02:47] ogra: rad [02:48] mpt, i was the one who introduced it ;) and got rid of it, yes :) [02:48] jdub, yeah [02:49] ogra: Good good ... Now get rid of the time display (or add the current weather alongside it), and get rid of the thermometer, and make the password field look like a real text field, and we'll be fine :-) [02:50] there isn't a local initscript in debian/ubuntu is there? [02:50] mpt: dude, chill out [02:50] hmmm? [02:50] I'm getting ahead of myself again, aren't I [02:50] sorry [02:50] just be grateful for what ogra's done [02:51] I am [02:51] if you're so interested in changing things, learning to program and doing it yourself is a good start :) [02:51] mpt, i already bugged jdub for fade in and out code.... :) i think he fears the featureitis ;) [02:51] ogra: fade-to-grey? [02:51] schweeb: Yeah, I've never heard that argument before, thanks ;-) [02:52] http://www.whiprush.org/2005/04/ubuntu_release__1.html [02:52] ajmitch, i thought about black....until alpha belnding works right in xorg :) [02:52] ^ whiprush has some cool photos of hoary upgrades and happy users [02:52] ok [02:52] ogra: Hmmm, fade in and fade out? I'd never thought of that, but that's a cool idea [02:52] jdub, did you see my question? [02:52] jdub: heh, I was there when he wrote that [02:53] Burgundavia: no [02:53] jdub: good photos [02:53] jdub: locally we're gettina pretty good group of people using Ubuntu [02:53] jdub, wondered if it was a good idea for double clicking on the desktop icon of music cds/dvds should launch totem/gnome cd player instead of nautilus [02:54] too bad I can't make it to the release party that's right now @_@ (vehicle's in the shop) [02:54] mpt, the nice thing is that he code is already there for the fading of the screensaver itself.... is just a matter of including the right header and some lines of code... but lets wait how the gnoem screensaver project goes on [02:54] Burgundavia: Or you could just remove the distinction between the two === mpt ducks [02:55] mpt, I am thinking more dbclick to launch what ever is default for that type of media [02:55] hmm, do DVDs contain files which it is useful to manage? I have no idea [02:55] some do [02:56] "enhanced" cds and dvds do [02:56] Burgundavia: possibly, yeah - would be an interesting challenge handling mimetypes/g-v-m configuration, etc. === TechJournalist_ [~chatzilla@d141-133-19.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TechJournalist_ is now known as TechJournalist [02:56] but they should be easy to catch [02:56] Burgundavia: i think that's about the only reason why it doesn't do it already [02:56] schweeb: man, whiprush's users have nothing on my users [02:56] lol [02:56] http://perkypants.org/misc/happy-users-are-productive-users.jpg [02:56] im waiting for the next devel repository ;) [02:57] http://perkypants.org/misc/holy-usability-batman.jpg [02:57] Burgundavia: Or maybe put a "Play" button in Nautilus's toolbar for CD/DVD windows [02:57] jdub, I feel sorry for the old man === mjg59 [mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:57] jdub: rofl [02:57] mpt, too much crap [02:57] mpt, featuritis ala konq [02:57] schweeb: even the pope can get ubuntu installed on a dell ;) [02:57] haha [02:57] just do what I want, do make me do it [02:58] jdub: h8 my Dell 8200 [02:58] Burgundavia: jump on #gnome-hackers and ask alex/campd about it, they ought to be able to tell you what's in the way [02:58] jdub, thanks [02:58] jdub: Was that before or after dying? :) [02:58] Burgundavia: hrm, actually, mailing nautilus-list would probably be better [02:58] hopefully I get something that I can get suspend working on soon [02:58] jdub, ok [02:59]