=== mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:08] hi [01:09] Hi. === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.134.11] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:56] Kinnison, ping [02:04] mdke, you here? [02:04] yeah [02:04] hiya [02:04] do you have a dvd player? [02:04] yes [02:05] you have totem-gstreamer? [02:05] not sure [02:05] if its in ubuntu-desktop [02:05] about on totem will tell you [02:05] yeah ok i do [02:06] inserting dvd now [02:06] see if it says it is streaming [02:06] totem could not play dvd, reason unknown [02:06] ok [02:06] you have marillait repos [02:06] no [02:07] aah [02:07] but i have libdvdcss [02:07] add deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main [02:07] ok [02:07] do i still need to add? [02:07] get libdvdcss2 [02:07] actually i think that is the one i have [02:07] lemme check [02:08] yes [02:08] I would add that repo anyway [02:08] and install that versin [02:08] hmm [02:08] i probably have the wrong version [02:08] says 1.2.8-woody [02:09] problem is I don't like marillat because it conflicts with my ubuntu mplayer [02:09] anyway have added and am updating [02:13] Burgundavia, dvd still not working [02:13] err [02:14] I just did a fresh install [02:14] gstremer didn't work on my old machine [02:14] but it does now [02:14] running it from a terminal tells me that gstreamer doesn't seem to like video/mpeg or audio/x-ac3 [02:14] hmm [02:15] it seems gstreamer is still borked [02:15] have you tried with a new user? [02:15] I am a new user [02:15] I just reinstalled today [02:15] oh [02:16] this why I am thinking about this [02:16] I'm about to re-install... [02:16] x86? [02:18] yes, I run x86 [02:18] Burgundavia, so its not normal for totem to dislike mpeg files? [02:18] yes [02:18] Want me to check/set anything when I do it? [02:18] totem-gstreamer is mostly borked [02:18] Flonne, not really [02:18] I am just looking to confirm some errors and usability glitches [02:18] mplayer plays it fine [02:18] pah [02:19] Do either of you have an amd64 system? [02:19] totem-xine is better, but patent encumbered [02:19] nope [02:19] Flonne, no [02:19] hmm when I say fine, I mean without sound [02:19] I can't seem to create a gstreamer object on mine, but that was Preview. [02:20] gstreamer is a very nice framework, but the plugins need some work [02:21] Oh, well... Gentoo server goes down; Ubuntu server goes up. [02:22] just a sec, going to reboot x === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.134.11] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:28] Burgundavia, solved my totem issue i reckon [02:28] there is a mpeg4, ac3, divx plugin [02:29] you needed gstreamer plugn [02:29] thats what i mean [02:29] yeah it's working now [02:30] oh no [02:30] its playing but it is slow as hell [02:30] keeps freezing [02:30] dma [02:30] sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc [02:30] thats not it [02:30] ok [02:30] plays fine in mplayer [02:30] gstreamer used to that [02:30] and its much slower than that [02:30] before I reinstalled [02:32] hmm [02:33] lemme install more plugins [02:37] ok installing more plugins has improved it, but its still jerky and the sound is rubbish [02:39] any rss feeds you recommmend? [02:40] hmm [02:40] i use bbc world news and the ubuntu wiki new pages lol [02:40] actually i wanted to ask about the docteam [02:41] are we cracking on with some new guides now? [02:41] my major push for hoary is the faqguide [02:41] s/hoary/breezy [02:41] heh [02:41] has it been started? [02:41] what other docs are there? [02:41] sort of [02:41] quickguide [02:41] and userguide [02:42] userguide sounds interesting [02:42] is that "how to set up my email client" stuff? [02:44] sort of [02:44] userguide and faqguide are going to have to define which is which [02:44] that is not clear yet [02:45] what else is on? [02:46] update quickguide [02:46] and the portal [02:46] no systemguide or anything? [02:46] ah yes [02:46] admin guide [02:47] ok so lots [02:47] when are we starting? [02:47] right now [02:47] ok [02:50] I've got the Installation draft ready to go (well, as soon as I confirm the steps on an oldworld Mac), so I just need to know where to put it... [02:51] wiki for now [02:56] Burgundavia, you know if its possible to get rid of this update manager chap in the panel? [02:56] the little red circle? [02:56] that's the little devil [02:58] update your system [02:58] it will go away [02:58] thats not the point! [02:58] it will come back [02:59] it is there for a reason [02:59] you can [02:59] stop the daemon [02:59] and kill the cron.daily process [02:59] it is there for a reason? [02:59] yes [02:59] what happened to choice? [02:59] to tell people to update there machines [02:59] sorry, good default wins out [02:59] i'm happy with default [02:59] but there is nothing wrong with "remove from panel" [03:00] it is not in the panel [03:00] it is in the notification area [03:00] ok yeah [03:00] which is in the panel [03:00] you can kill the notif area [03:00] but it is a bad idea [03:01] But if you remove that, you lose everything it holds. [03:01] especially because then xchat will close [03:01] huh? [03:01] I don't think that will close X-Chat... [03:01] mdke, it has been proven that users will not update unless forced to [03:01] shiny red icons screaming at them do that [03:01] i don't dispute that [03:01] but i don't want it [03:01] ok [03:02] 1. kill the daemon [03:02] 2. kill the startup that starts the daemon [03:02] i don't think asking for that sort of choice is unreasonable [03:02] mdke, as an IT professional, this is something that you SHOULD NOT be able to turn off [03:02] end of story [03:02] sorry [03:02] rubbish [03:03] i update my other systems [03:03] and they don't have it [03:03] i agree its a good idea to have it [03:03] yes, but we talking the great unwashed [03:03] and if you offer the option, people will turn it off [03:03] ok [03:03] and that is a very very very bad thing [03:03] 1. I don't dispute its a good default [03:03] 2. unwashed people should be washed [03:03] mdke, it can be turned off [03:04] it has 2 parts [03:04] instead of deodorised [03:04] a daemon that checks for updates [03:04] and the part that puts the icon there [03:04] kill the daemon, and you are set [03:05] do you know how i can do that? [03:05] let me check [03:06] perhaps removing it from my session and saving will be sufficient [03:07] might do [03:08] yes that seems to have done the trick i think [03:08] the notification icon will put up with any update [03:08] thus if you reload in syn and it has updates, it will do it then to [03:09] yeah [03:10] well i guess the user who wants to remove it can always uninstall it :/ [03:11] that too [03:11] but I insist, there should be no reason to remove it [03:11] I keep my machines up to date too [03:11] but I still keep the icon [03:11] another daemon [03:12] if you have a slow macine, then it might be an issue [03:12] ok [03:13] ok i'm off to bed [03:13] good night [03:15] cya [03:20] Burgundavia, do you have any idea how to physically move a partition? [03:20] move? [03:21] gparted will grow and shrink parts [03:21] Yeah. Move every block from one location to another. [03:21] hmm [03:21] I know, but it only works on the tail. [03:21] it must be possible [03:21] At least the version I have... [03:21] I need to move the head down by about four gigs. [03:23] I could just create a new partition at the end, move all existing data into that, remove the first partition, create a new one four gigs up, move all the data back, restroy the temp partition, then grow the one that's left, but that seems horribly slow and it would be a total hackjob. [03:23] destroy* [03:25] I was thinking that might be the only way to do ti [03:41] Ah... It looks like parted can do what I want, but its interface is quite cryptic. [03:41] (gparted seems to lack this... Maybe it's unsafe) [03:45] Bleh. I get a "Can't move a partition onto itself error." [03:49] try gparted or qtparted === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.134.11] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:01] Too late; it b0rked. :) [05:06] hmm? [05:11] A reiserfsck recovered everything importantish, but the move failed. === Liz [~Liz@fixed-203-87-27-63.nsw.chariot.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:43] http://www.ebaumsworld.com/badgers.html === jzb [~jzb@c-67-164-187-12.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === froud [~froud@ndn-165-157-144.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:00] African Greetings [10:00] puke my DSL router gave in on me last night. [10:02] great [10:06] hmm [10:06] I am working on this ubuntu brochure [10:06] should i committ to the generic folder in the branch? [10:07] cool what ubuntu brochue? [10:07] is it about GNOME or/and KDE [10:07] If about both it goes in Generic [10:07] hmm [10:08] just mentions Ubuntu right now [10:08] if about GNOME put in gnome [10:08] gnome [10:08] check it in under gnome [10:09] ok === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:46] howdy all [11:46] hello sivang [11:46] salut === froud is busting his &^% on th emake system [11:49] salutte Burgundavia , ahalan froud [11:49] mienyanim [11:50] kohev li ha rosh [11:51] froud: lama ma kara? hakol beseder ahi ? [11:55] ' [11:55] I see unicode [11:55] its in hebrew [11:56] I figured as much [11:56] there is a really crazy of teaching hebrew in Ubuntu [11:56] froud: ooops, my unicode is broken at the moment [11:56] so you dont see the hebrew characters [11:56] Burgundavia: there is? who else is on the craze? [11:56] froud: let's stick to fonetic if you wish [11:56] :-) [11:56] what craze? [11:57] sivang, Kinnison [11:57] No I speak it [11:57] they dance when I highlight them [11:57] I just never type in hebrew characaters [11:57] Burgundavia: eh, the poor guy I owe him some docs with some instrucitnons... [11:57] Burgundavia: froud knows hebrew probably better then me :-) [11:57] I must say, the hebrew is almost unreadable [11:58] very very small and light [11:58] Burgundavia: speaks hebrew [11:58] oh my bad [11:58] now I get it [11:59] no way sivang my hebrew is bad [11:59] Kinnison: ping [11:59] sivang: do you see the hebrew characters? [11:59] froud: no, unicode is broken from whre I am currently [11:59] oh well [12:00] froud: have you been contacted by someone from the .IL LocoTeam, I forwarded him the files yous sent me, he seemed keento help tranlate them [12:00] but my keyboard does not have hebrew keys so it is hard to remember where stuff is :-) [12:00] sivang: cool [12:01] I go back to hacking now, c ya [12:01] froud: laters [12:02] 521 or 571 MB of Kubuntu iso downloaded :-) [12:02] I am gonna spread Kubuntu far and wide :-) === froud "Burgundavia will come to Kubuntu" === Burgundavia resists === maskie [~maskie@196-30-109-41.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [DaWorm@ipdial-246-177.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:24] good evening everyone :) [12:25] go morning [12:25] s/go/good [12:25] Burgey [12:25] if i remember before you were making a presentation for ubuntu [12:25] for a local lug? [12:25] hmm [12:25] bigger than that [12:26] Linux fest north west [12:26] i got invited to speak to a conference [12:26] for Ubuntu [12:26] cool [12:26] but i have no idea what to present [12:26] join the club [12:26] what were you planning? [12:26] anyway the conference is still in October [12:26] my talk is called Ubuntu:Not just a funny name anymore [12:26] basically a look at Ubuntu, then and now [12:26] the audience is mostly geeks [12:27] hmmm [12:27] who probably know a lot more than me [12:27] can i take a peek at your notes? [12:27] hmm [12:27] 21 days [12:27] its ok [12:27] no rush [12:27] mines october anyway [12:27] I figure I will start writing about the 25th of Apr [12:27] there are some good talks already on the wiki [12:28] but since its october i was thinking of breezy [12:28] so i still have a 6 month headstart [12:28] hmm [12:28] good plan [12:28] when is your talk? [12:28] No definite date yet but the organizer said late Sept/early Oct. [12:28] just before Breezy launches [12:28] good timing [12:29] yeah thats what i had in mind [12:30] the organizer asked if they could invite someone from canonical say mako, but i asked them if they are willing to shoulder costs on bringing him over [12:30] mako is in NYC [12:30] better to grab jdub [12:30] good idea [12:31] because dist aust-->phil is < nyc-->phil [12:31] well i heard mako went to shanghai a few months ago for AsiaOSC [12:32] mako is canonicals community rep === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.134.11] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:35] that is odd [12:36] xchat just died === claude [~claude@236.226.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:23] agghhh wiki work === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:59] hi enrico [02:00] salut enrico [02:01] Hi all! [02:03] ok i go to dinner first [02:03] bbl [02:16] whoops! The release notes mention the FAQ Guide :) [02:18] and our FAQ in the site is empty :( === Skywind_ [~Skywind@218.2.159.32] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:30] hi all === froud [~froud@ndn-165-157-144.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:31] afternoon froud [02:31] 'ello [02:33] hi guys [02:33] hi froud [02:33] i was reading thru the logs [02:33] ello maskie [02:34] does development for breezy also branch then later merged to their trunk? [02:34] how's cape town today [02:34] hot and windy [02:34] warm up here, no wind [02:35] i watched a silly movie with my daughter today === _sean [~sean@ndn-165-157-144.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:35] the wind is not that bad today === _sean is now known as xhosa [02:36] snow in Switzerland :-P [02:36] nice [02:36] i wish we had snow here in asia [02:36] snow is evil [02:36] whereabouts in switzerland are you claude ? [02:36] Burgundavia, snow = skiing :) [02:36] that is fine [02:36] snow belongs on ski hills [02:36] not on driveways [02:36] poo in snow is bad [02:37] good point [02:37] oook Kubuntu rocks [02:37] xhosa, you are still froud [02:37] i was thinking of a good motto for us to think about when doing stuff [02:37] stop astroturfing [02:37] yep [02:37] mdke: Chaux-de-Fonds (Neuchatel) [02:37] I can only think of one [02:37] PUU - People Use Ubuntu [02:37] but i want something much better [02:38] jsgotangco, just put on eye of the tiger or something [02:38] UPYOURS [02:38] in spongebob its POOP - People Order Our Patty [02:38] Ubuntu People Yes Our Ubuntu Rocks [02:38] S [02:39] UP YOURS [02:39] ? [02:39] UPYOURS - Ubuntu People Yes Our Ubuntu Rocks [02:40] so what's going on? [02:40] but i was thinking of having the end user in mind to remind us [02:40] it looks like we're having some kind of meeting ;) [02:41] Hmm, I am considering ditching my SuSE for Kubuntu [02:41] how is kubuntu? i gotta try that next week [02:42] jsgotangco: very smooth [02:43] jsgotangco: definately worth downloading the iso [02:43] froukde :) [02:43] I WILL :D [02:43] it cohabits happily with gnome right? [02:44] jridell did a good job i heard [02:44] i like the 3 dragons [02:44] they should keep that [02:44] yes [02:45] yes it cohabits with gnome? [02:45] but once you use it you will unistall your gnome [02:45] :-) [02:45] so how does it work, I keep using gdm? [02:45] i think kdm has much better handling for other de [02:45] compared to gdm [02:46] agreed [02:46] http://www.kubuntu.org.uk/documentation.php [02:47] the the wireless monitor in kde works even with ndiswrapper..it doesnt work with our gnome [02:48] ok that's a good document [02:48] but no way vis-a-verse is a real word :p [02:48] ok i'll try installing it on my laptop [02:49] whoa froud you did this by yourself? [02:49] is it going to be hard to remove it afterwards? [02:49] i dont think so [02:50] your gnome settings still are there (mostly) [02:51] huh? mostly? [02:51] well thats what i experienced in mdk b4 [02:51] what did you lose? [02:53] not much of an impact but i dont remember specifically but with apt it wont be much of a problem i guess [02:53] what does KGX mean? [02:53] apt is not great at removing things [02:56] oohh charles got married *grin* [02:56] yeah [02:57] im not that familiar with euro monarchs but camilia looks like that guy from rolling stones [03:04] how dare you insult my country [03:04] mick jagger is a lot better looking than her [03:05] lol [03:05] hahah [03:06] does she become queen when charles becomes king? [03:07] i've stopped listening to that part of the news [03:07] but i think so [03:07] their marriage got in between the pope and rainier's death [03:14] no, she gets a funny title [03:15] "Princess Consort" === claude [~claude@236.226.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] [03:20] which means she'll never become queen [03:21] good thing theyll never have kids [03:23] i think they're too old [03:23] gosh - i *hope* they're too old [03:26] jeezz i know im going to be old like them but thinking about what theyre going to do later gives me goosebumps [03:29] nrings new meaning to the phrase "long live the queen" [04:02] ahhh children are gods gift indeed === froud nods [04:03] getting close to commiting new make system in branch [04:03] must do testing tonight [04:03] then commit [04:03] hope I dont delete all the files on your hard disks [04:04] ok ive been reading thru that link you gave me and learning a lot [04:04] which svn book [04:04] it is a must read === froud welcome back enrico [04:13] we missed you buddy [04:16] hi! [04:23] its been a while === Cturtle [~ubuntu@84.119.197.156] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:45] goodnite everyone [04:45] good night [05:22] enrico: do you want the english document to be in C? [05:22] enrico: or is the root of the working folder? [05:23] froud: no idea [05:23] enrico: each i18n document will have its own dir [05:23] what is easier for packaging? [05:23] philosophically, I'd like every language to have its own directory [05:24] ok we are using the ISO naming convention fr, ca, de etc you want english doc in en [05:24] for packaging, I'm doing so many rearranging at deb-build time that I tend to believe anything is fine :) [05:24] yeah I want to reduce the rearranging [05:24] cut down on over head [05:25] It mainly depends how it'll need to be installed in the resulting system [05:25] the bigger problems were the links to ../lib and so on (and I needed to do lots of symlinks) [05:25] I don't know if we can foresee what destination will be for Breezy [05:26] (although we could assume that it's the same as now [05:26] ) [05:26] I have many libs now [05:26] in which case, we have problems anyway in sharing images [05:27] one for common, one for gnome, one for kde, one for generic [05:27] menu system is lang specific and auto built [05:27] awesome [05:28] Ok I will leave the en doc in the root of the working folder [05:28] that way it is easier to find for authors [05:28] and denotes that it is the driver for all else [05:29] btw, OMF files are also created dynamic on first instance [05:29] I think we should keep OMF files with their documents [05:29] last time we forgot to translate them [05:30] we had to rush it at the last second [05:30] in that case, call it C [05:30] yes, exactly. OMF files should not be separate [05:31] OK C it will be [05:32] if I make the dir it saves you having to make it, right? [05:33] froud: say it again? [05:34] ah, ok [05:34] if we develop the english document is C it saves you having to make it [05:34] y..yess [05:34] In build I will create gnome/docuname/C/ [05:35] gnome/docuname/fr/ [05:35] gnome/docuname/de/ [05:35] etc [05:35] yes [05:35] ok cool, so glad you are back :-) [05:35] Limited time, though [05:35] huh why? [05:35] now I'm in a bit of information overload. [05:35] also [05:36] full time job getting more and more full time [05:36] ouch I think I better learn the deb packaging stuff, sooner than later. Must find time though [05:36] first get the new restructure over [05:36] froud: you do already a lot with the docbook stuff :) [05:37] practically making everything automatic [05:37] only one problem [05:37] cant make a single document [05:37] have to build all gnome [05:37] or kde [05:37] or generic [05:37] :-( [05:38] must find method [05:38] how come? [05:39] each do now will have a file called modvars.make [05:39] looks like this [05:39] BUILD_FILE=/index.html [05:39] HTML_XSL=../libs/about-ubuntu-html-cust.xsl [05:39] FIG_DIR=../images [05:39] DOC_NAME=about-ubuntu [05:39] LANG=C [05:39] OMF_FILE=$DOC_NAME-$LANG.omf [05:39] SUBJECT="General|Linux|Distributions|Other" [05:39] IDENTIFIER=file:///usr/share/gnome/help/$DOC_NAME/$LANG/$DOC_NAME.xml [05:39] SERIES_ID=7fb11226-8a1d-11d9-9fcf-ff970c259736 [05:39] it gets sourced from the top make [05:39] the code that does the work is generic [05:40] so it can be applied to generic, kde and gnome [05:40] I just need to find a way of passing a single module to the code [05:41] I can't look at it now (brain exploding), but a general suggestion: don't overdesign [05:41] lol [05:41] sure, can be a problem === mdke hands enrico a cold towel [05:42] what you loling at mdke [05:42] poor enrico [05:42] you can lol when you come to kde [05:42] i'm just logging in now [05:42] laughing out loud at the time its taking to login [05:42] omg [05:42] and also lol @ login sound [05:42] cool [05:42] froud: also look at http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?YouArentGonnaNeedIt [05:43] everything I now impliment is from the experience with hoary [05:44] froud: that's always a good read :) [05:44] we had to mant things to touch in the make and packaging for my liking === mkde [~matt@81-179-193-192.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:44] but that's not an opinion on what you're doing: I trust what you do [05:44] sure [05:44] there are howver things poping in between my ears, but we have not needed them, yet === mkde looks around [05:45] mdke run KControl dude [05:45] and see the power [05:45] lol [05:45] i'm familiar with kde [05:45] froud: :) yes, when something's not needed, it's useful to postpone it [05:45] or to not thing about it [05:46] because when it'll be needed, it'll be needed in a different way you are thinking of coding it today :) [05:46] enrico: you know me I am lazy as hell [05:46] script everything, that's the way to get out of work and go to the beach === froud wonders how to script and author [05:46] then at the beach you get a mobile phone ring saying that the script broke :) [05:47] argh [05:47] kde has inserted a wastebin on my gnome desktop === mdke slaps kde [05:47] (that's why you never should go to the beach with the mobile phone. Bullshit that it's because of the sand :) [05:47] lol [05:48] gnome should have a wastebin on the desktop. Its a design flaw of gnome, not KDE [05:48] *cough* [05:48] hey I got scripts to write [05:48] its a bug in ubuntu [05:49] yes, not Kubuntu [05:49] c ya [05:49] froud, i do not distinguish [05:49] back to scripts [05:49] k [05:50] enrico: can I call a make target from within a make target [05:51] 1: [05:51] ..... [05:51] make 2: [05:51] sure [05:51] OK [05:51] $(MAKE) 2 is better, I think [05:56] enrico: like this [05:56] all: gnome kde generic [05:56] gnome: [05:56] [05:56] DIR = `ls -d gnome/` [05:56] SUB_DIR = `ls -d $DIR*/` [05:56] BUILD_DIR = $(BUILDBASE)/$(DIR) [05:56] make build [05:56] kde: [05:56] DIR = `ls -d kde/` [05:56] SUB_DIR = `ls -d $DIR*/` [05:57] BUILD_DIR = $(BUILDBASE)/$(DIR) [05:57] make build [05:57] generic: [05:57] DIR = `ls -d generic/` [05:57] SUB_DIR = `ls -d $DIR*/` [05:57] BUILD_DIR = $(BUILDBASE)/$(DIR) [05:57] make build [05:57] build: [05:58] I think it should work [05:59] OK where build is the same object code for each make target [05:59] and build loads modvars.make from each document in for loop [06:04] does anyone here know how to call ssh commands with a particular key? I haven't had an answer in #ubuntu so am trying here in desperation [06:06] froud: actually, you should do it differently [06:07] you rename modvars.make in Makefile [06:07] ok [06:07] then include a makefile snipped with the common stuff [06:07] then make the makefile in the upper dir invoke the makefiles in the lower sones [06:08] but then I have multiple make files [06:08] then if you want to only build or validate something, you cd into something ad do "make" [06:08] sure [06:08] each needing attention [06:08] every project has a makefile per directory [06:08] not much attention, because they all define a bunch of vars (like your modvars.make do) then include THE makefile stuff [06:08] from one single point [06:09] but for example about ubuntu uses a different XSL [06:09] then you define the XSL name in the Makefile of about-ubuntu [06:09] all the others use a default XSL file [06:10] Hmmm, ok must think about it. I can always split what I am doing now to work that way [06:10] make does all the things of fixing paths to point to .., ../.. or whatever depending on the level of nesting (IIRC) [06:11] Ok what I will do is hack this way and then commit. that way more eyes can see it. [06:11] foood, grub, nosh time [06:12] back in a few minutes === scorpix [~scorpix@as36-b234.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:25] hi === jr_G-man [~jr_G-man@ip68-225-109-162.br.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:28] scorpix: hello [07:29] what program is good for translating the ubuntuguide.org? [07:30] we have ubuntuguide.org in svn and use pot/po via Rosetta [07:30] There is not easy way to do it via the web site [07:30] if you like you can hack the src and update it to hoary [07:30] the doc is currently at warty [07:30] is there a guide or a howto on using rosseta with svn? [07:31] cuz i usually use kbabel [07:31] not exactly, we have docbook xml src of that doc in svn and make a POT file when it need translation [07:32] where can i get rosetta? [07:37] scorpix: Rosetta is a web app [07:37] you get the pot from there [07:38] but if you have svn src you can also just create a pot and do the po you want [07:38] using KBabel [07:38] but be warned that that doc is currently updated to warty so is out of date [07:39] do you want to translate the hoaryy version? [07:39] or the current version [07:54] back [07:54] yes i want to translate the hoary version === jr_G-man [~jr_G-man@ip68-225-109-162.br.no.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === Cturtle [~Cturtle__@84.119.197.156] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:38] scorpix: the hoary version does not exist [08:39] we need to port the warty version to hoary [08:39] scorpix: if you feel like doing that then the src is in svn see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocumentationTeam as your starting point === froud if now off to bed. c ya === froud is now known as froud-away [09:03] woa [09:03] early to bed ;) === scorpix [~scorpix@as36-b234.qualitynet.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Cturtle [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Cturtle [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc