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[12:58] <trulux> I got it!
[12:58] <trulux> :)
[01:00] <siretart> gnarf. did anyone succeeded to build javahl on amd64?
[01:16] <siretart> never mind. (and my english gets worse the later the evening... :/)
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[02:33] <carthik> Hi all, could someone field a question about how I could improve 1 specific package in the Universe? I tried the wiki and am still groggy from it :)
[02:37] <ogra> carthik, you start with setting up a pbuilder chroot: http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/PbuilderHowto
[02:38] <ogra> then download the source package, change it, build a testpackage in your pbuilder, test it, if it works, build a source package, sign it and give it to someone to upload...
[02:39] <carthik> ogra, thank you, another project I work for has had some problem with the .deb, which is why I asked. I'll start from where you suggested.
[02:40] <ogra> ...oh and make sure to have no warnings from lintian (the package checker) if the package is built...
[02:40] <carthik> thank you. i will
[02:40] <ogra> :)
[02:42] <carthik> ogra, the page you referenced has a small typo, and is locked... "setup a chroot for build Ubuntu packages using pbuilder." (the first line) should be "building" not build. Sorry for nitpicking :)
[02:42] <ogra> carthik, i'll tell it to dholbach, he'll change it for breezy anyway the next days...
[02:43] <carthik> cool
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[04:55] <tseng> who is niall on irc
[04:56] <tseng> niall sheridan
[04:56] <HostingGeek> me
[04:56] <HostingGeek> ooops
[04:57] <tseng> ?
[05:01] <HostingGeek> tseng: you can whois everyone i look at about 9 people that i thought maybe...
[05:02] <HostingGeek> Warning: thoreauputic is an impostor (look at his whois)
[05:02] <tseng> maybe he's not here.
[05:03] <thoreauputic> HostingGeek: I am indeed an imposter -version me if you doubt it :)
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[10:47] <hsprang> good morning! :)
[10:48] <ajmitch> hi hsprang
[10:50] <hsprang> ajmitch, for you, good morning might not really fit  :)
[10:54] <hsprang> ajmitch, so, good evening to you!
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[11:25] <AstralJava> It still applies to me, so I'll return the compliment. :)
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[11:59] <Usiu> ok https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstalacjaIKonfiguracjaGNUGadu2WUbuntu fixed
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[03:28] <herve> *yawn* hello!
[03:31] <ogra> morning herve
[03:31] <herve> morning, yes :-)
[03:31] <ogra> *g*
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[03:36] <tseng> hi
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[05:00] <koke> hi all!
[05:00] <tseng> hey dude.
[05:00] <ogra> hey koke
[05:00] <ogra> koke, youre not on the worldmap yet ?
[05:00] <ogra> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuWorldWide
[05:01] <koke> ogra: when I tried it was deleted :(
[05:01] <ogra> argh
[05:02] <koke> the wiki now is a mix between the old and new layout :)
[05:03] <ogra> broswer cache  ?
[05:05] <koke> ogra: not sure, the https pages look completely with old layout
[05:06] <koke> the others have the same layout but new colors :)
[05:06] <ogra> hmm, here i have the new layout everywhere
[05:08] <herve> ctrl+shift+r to completely refresh
[05:10] <koke> hehe, ubuntu.com looks new, ubuntulinux.org looks old :D
[05:14] <ogra> koke, hah, now we know where you live :)
[05:14] <koke> :D
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[05:41] <\sh> g'afternoon people :)
[05:42] <ogra> yo \sh
[06:05] <trulux> anyone knows why maths package does not show up accents?
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[06:34] <herve> re
[06:34] <crimsun> re
[06:34] <herve> trulux, you changed any font?
[06:34] <trulux> herve: no, it doesn't work even with roman or any other font
[06:35] <trulux> but it works outside the ams math mode
[06:35] <trulux> so, everything has correct accents, looking good
[06:35] <trulux> except when we put them inside the amsmath block
[06:36] <herve> as I remember, the math mode is quite picky about fonts
[06:36] <herve> since its symbols are glyphs
[06:44] <encolpe> yep
[06:45] <herve> I was about to ask you :-)
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[06:49] <herve> heya jbailey !
[06:49] <jbailey> Heya herv!
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[06:50] <herve> well will Freenode accept utf8 nicks? :-p
[06:51] <Mithrandir> heh, it won't accept accented chars, but norwegian ones are fine.
[06:52] <trulux> herve: fixed :)
[06:53] <trulux> Mithrandir: haha, \aacute
[06:53] <trulux> so cute tag
[06:54] <Mithrandir> trulux: that doesn't work here either, but if it works for you.. :)
[06:55] <trulux> it does for me, yep
[06:55] <trulux> it helps me to finish my physics work and start working out that gcc-3.4-hardened stuff
[06:56] <trulux> ;)
[06:56] <herve> so it's way important!
[06:56] <herve> :-)
[06:56] <trulux> a bit ;D
[06:56] <trulux> btw
[06:56] <trulux> I've missed a big bunch of updates: 367MB of upgrade!
[06:56] <trulux> christ...
[06:56] <herve> yes
[06:56] <herve> and hoary is out too :-p
[06:57] <trulux> I know
[06:57] <trulux> (really)
[06:57] <trulux> :D
[06:57] <herve> ho so you don't have that much to catch up ;-)
[06:58] <trulux> I was just too busy with school
[06:59] <trulux> you can compare the amount of junk I use to say on holidays and when I've started school
[06:59] <trulux> I could be scared if someone shows up a graph
[06:59] <herve> and you're probably more serious than I was with school
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[07:00] <trulux> (March 2005) ^^^^^^^^\_____/\___ (April 2005)
[07:01] <trulux> herve: oh, it's just that I'm planning to get out of it to join a special program, it cuts one year of school, so, I get in university one year before
[07:01] <trulux> instead of waiting 2 more years of blatantly stupid, embarrassing, junk secondary/pre-university school
[07:02] <herve> I think I get it
[07:04] <trulux> hehe, in short, I'm putting special effort in school this trimester
[07:05] <trulux> it's fun that I have done school-related work here for first time, they may get worried on the possibility of that fscking trulux getting the papers copied somewhere called "LaTeX"
[07:05] <trulux> ;d
[07:06] <trulux> "No, really, it's not that LaTeX you have used the past weekend. It's of my own home-brew."
[07:06] <trulux> *grin*
[07:07] <trulux> herve: btw, do you know how I could make a sun eclipse model with povray? I've b0rked my earth model
[07:07] <trulux> :(
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[07:13] <trulux> herve: btw, did you have a look on the new libssp packages?
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[07:15] <herve> f... !
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[07:15] <dholbach> hey!
[07:15] <crimsun> hey!
[07:18] <dholbach> crimsun: how are you?
[07:19] <crimsun> dholbach: not too bad, getting ready to grab some coffee and head back to work. Yourself?
[07:19] <dholbach> crimsun: still tired, was out with mvo yesterday, celebrating hoary's release :-)
[07:19] <dholbach> but i'm fine :-)
[07:19] <crimsun> dholbach: ah, quite a few brews? :)
[07:20] <dholbach> yes, wasn't really used to it anymore  :-))
[07:20] <crimsun> ;)
[07:20] <crimsun> ok, back in a bit
[07:20] <dholbach> byeeeeeee
[07:25] <schweeb> omg, dholbach's alive :)
[07:25] <dholbach> schweeb: of course! :-)
[07:26] <dholbach> hey schweeb :-)
[07:26] <schweeb> whats up
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[07:27] <schweeb> I want my breezy, so I can have more fun
[07:27] <trulux> hey dholbach , woka!
[07:28] <dholbach> schweeb: hahaha... have more breakage in the first place :-)
[07:28] <trulux> crimsun: coffee, that makes me thinking... I need a cup of that!
[07:28] <dholbach> the first days will be bumpy :-)
[07:30] <ogra> the first month
[07:31] <herve> heya dholbach !
[07:32] <dholbach> hey herve!
[07:32] <dholbach> so where do we go from here? "reset" our todo lists? ;-)
[07:33] <herve> malone!
[07:33] <dholbach> but malone won't give us a doesnt-built-with-gcc4-list
[07:33] <dholbach> or didnt-make-python-transition :-)
[07:33] <trulux> christ, what's happening who is building with gcc4?
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[07:34] <schweeb> we might, trulux
[07:34] <ogra> trulux, gcc4 will be the default for breezy
[07:34] <schweeb> the gcc4 transition is going to be hell
[07:34] <trulux> ogra: finally? ok
[07:34] <ogra> yep
[07:34] <dholbach> schweeb: will be fun! :-)
[07:35] <trulux> ok, anyone knows a friendly gcc hacker who can help me with the last bits porting of SSP to gcc-4.0?
[07:35] <schweeb> dholbach: yea, but I'll be useless
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[07:35] <herve> dholbach, the idea is to automatically file bugs with a common tag
[07:35] <fabbione> hmm
[07:35] <dholbach> herve: yes
[07:35] <fabbione> i think the gcc-4 transition will be more smooth than you think
[07:35] <fabbione> the real issue are the c++ libs
[07:35] <dholbach> schweeb: we'll manage and you'll be of great help
[07:35] <schweeb> heh
[07:36] <fabbione> and apps that are written as shit -> drop them
[07:36] <fabbione> schweeb: trust me, the transition it's easier than you think
[07:36] <schweeb> as long as we're taking that radical approach, sweet :)
[07:36] <fabbione> well for universe you can
[07:37] <ogra> yay, fabbione is here
[07:37] <fabbione> hey ogra
[07:37] <ogra> hi :)
[07:38] <dholbach> fabbione: how was the party?
[07:38] <fabbione> i was just passing by on the fly
[07:38] <schweeb> it would be ideal if we started breezy in the next week or so, since I'm taking a week's vacation soon :)
[07:38] <fabbione> i need to go and cook dinner
[07:38] <fabbione> dholbach: it was good
[07:38] <fabbione> schweeb: i think we will open breezy dances pretty soon
[07:38] <dholbach> fabbione: i urged mvo to get his car ready, but he didnt :-/
[07:39] <schweeb> oh goody goody
[07:39] <fabbione> but if it is not during this week, it will be after UDU mostlikely
[07:39] <schweeb> ah
[07:39] <schweeb> UDU is at the end of the month, right?
[07:39] <dholbach> 24-30
[07:39] <ogra> last week
[07:39] <fabbione> afaik lamont and elmo will be working on rebuilding the archive with gcc-4.0
[07:39] <fabbione> and see how bad it is the situation
[07:39] <fabbione> but to do that
[07:40] <fabbione> they need doko to upload another gcc-4 version
[07:40] <fabbione> kinda complicate
[07:40] <fabbione> but again
[07:40] <schweeb> ah
[07:40] <fabbione> don't worry too much
[07:40] <fabbione> really
[07:40] <schweeb> alright, off I go
[07:40] <dholbach> i dont, it will be fun :-)
[07:40] <dholbach> bye schweeb
[07:40] <schweeb> gonna go watch Sin City at the theater
[07:40] <fabbione> i am off too
[07:40] <dholbach> bye fabbione
[07:40] <ogra> ciao
[07:40] <fabbione> cya tomorrow
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[07:41] <schweeb> speak of the devil
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[10:32] <herve> ho look behind you! it's night!
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[11:17] <ajmitch> morning all!
[11:18] <dholbach> hey ajmitch
[11:18] <ajmitch> what's up?
[11:18] <dholbach> http://blog.steve.org.uk/index.php/archives/2005/04/10/ubuntu/ <--- that was me :-)
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[11:19] <dredg> dholbach: brainwashing the masses then?
[11:19] <dholbach> dredg: we don't need that :-)
[11:19] <dredg> :)
[11:20] <ajmitch> bah, someone asking for documentation & examples for one of my debian packages
[11:20] <ajmitch> nobody needs docs
[11:21] <dholbach> just assume he wants to write those and write a charming mail back
[11:22] <ajmitch> no, it's more that he didn't check 'info treecc' - the docs are already there ;)
[11:22] <ajmitch> and the other doc on the website probably can't be included
[11:30] <dholbach> smurfix and phurballphredd surely got their coordinates wrong :-)
[11:33] <dholbach> i think i'll go to bed for now... bye
[11:33] <ajmitch> bye dholbach !
[11:33] <dholbach> byeeeeeeeeeeeee :-)