[01:14] <spiv> Moaning.
[01:43] <lifeless> spiv: please try baz now
[01:43] <lifeless> spiv: tell me if its fixed or not
[01:44] <spiv> lifeless: Will do.
[01:57] <spiv> Looks much better.
[01:59] <spiv> 1m 30s for a baz update (from a cold cache) that had to apply 5 patches to build a new revlib entry, and deal with a handful of local changes, on an athlon 750.
[02:00] <spiv> So you figured out why it regressed so much?
[02:01] <spiv> Oh, wow: PANIC: unable to fork for patch
[02:01] <lifeless> I think the thing that was the prime regression was adding arch_abs_path (foo) into an inner loop
[02:01] <lifeless> its a very unoptimised call that.
[02:01] <spiv> I've never gotten that before.
[02:01] <spiv> Sounds plausible.
[02:02] <lifeless> But I also added in stat result caching for the inventories that are used
[02:02] <lifeless> how much ram do you have
[02:02] <lifeless> ?
[02:02] <lifeless> (how old is an athlon 750 ?)
[02:04] <spiv> 384Mb in the athlon, 512Mb on my laptop.
[02:04] <spiv> The PANIC was from my laptop, though.
[02:04] <lifeless> wow
[02:04] <lifeless> I'd bet on a furfy
[02:05] <spiv> It happened just after * reapplying local changes
[02:06] <lifeless> during 'update' ?
[02:06] <spiv> Yeah.
[02:07] <lifeless> thats strange, the resources should have been freed.
[02:07] <spiv> It was 45 revisions worth of launchpad update.
[02:07] <spiv> (and only took 4m, which is much better than a few days ago)
[02:19] <lifeless> can you undo to the old revision, than update again ?
[02:19] <lifeless>  what baz version do you have ?
[02:22] <spiv> Bazaar version 1.3~200504102028
[02:29] <lifeless> is there a newer one available ?
[02:32] <mdke> ooh has launchpad been updated?
[02:33] <lifeless> not in the last few days
[02:33] <lifeless> update coming today
[02:34] <mdke> oh cool
[02:34] <mdke> can't wait
[12:51] <Simira> What's up?: "Bad Gateway
[12:51] <Simira> The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
[12:51] <Simira> "
[12:52] <Kinnison> Have you tried shift+reloading?
[12:52] <SteveA> we could do with a "launchpad is down for maintenance" page
[12:52] <mdke> its like that here too
[12:52] <mdke> i thought it was due to the upgrade
[12:53] <Simira> hi Kinnison :) Going to .au soon?
[12:53] <Kinnison> Simira: I'm not going to LCA so not for a week or so :-)
[12:53] <Kinnison> IIRC my flight is on the 22nd
[12:53] <Simira> ok
[12:54] <Simira> I'm not joining this time. But I'll keep an eye on you guys anyhow. Tollef's got a webcam :)
[12:54] <Simira> reserved just for me
[12:55] <Simira> hmm... need to get one set up for my gerbils as well, so I can keep an eye on them while I'm away too
[04:50] <mdke> bah
[04:53] <mdke> have all the improvements been made to launchpad now?
[05:02] <mdke> matt_, go away
[07:27] <carlos> mdke: yes, launchpad should have all changes we talked about last week
[07:27] <mdke> hmm
[07:27] <mdke> i'm not redirected after loggin in
[07:30] <mdke> also clicking on members of a group does not take me to their members page, it just gives me no permissions error message
[07:35] <carlos> mdke: I don't have a problem with the redirection...
[07:36] <mdke> you mean it doesn't bother you, or it redirects?
[07:36] <carlos> mdke: If you try to enter into a page that need validation, you will see the login form and after that you will be back to the page you asked for...
[07:36] <carlos> that's the way it works here...
[07:37] <mdke> try https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/people/ubuntu-l10n-it/+members and clicking on a name
[07:38] <carlos> hmm
[07:38] <carlos> ok, it works here
[07:38] <carlos> but
[07:38] <carlos> I think I know why it's not working for you...
[07:38] <mdke> this is what i get:
[07:38] <carlos> I suppose it's because I'm an admin and that page is only for admins
[07:38] <mdke> yeah
[07:38] <mdke> Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page.
[07:38] <mdke> You are logged in as Matthew East
[07:39] <mdke> if would be cool if that redirected to people/name
[07:39] <carlos> mdke: the link you asked is in that page, but you don't have rights to reach it
[07:39] <mdke> yep
[07:39] <carlos> salgado-lunch: could you ping us when you are back?
[07:39] <Simira> carlos: am I supposed to be redirected after login? And, where do I find the national translation teams in Rosetta? Are there any links?
[07:40] <mdke> carlos, i think it would be cool if https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/people/ubuntu-l10n-it/+members/gulliver666 (me) linked to https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/people/gulliver666
[07:40] <carlos> Simira: you should be redirected if the login form appear without you selecting it directly
[07:40] <mdke> Simira, https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/people/
[07:40] <carlos> Simira: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/people/ubuntu-translators
[07:40] <Simira> ok
[07:41] <carlos> there you have all the language teams we have at the moment, other option is as mdke says, using the search form
[07:41] <carlos> mdke: I'm not in charge of that part of launchpad, you need to talk with salgado-lunch about it
[07:41] <mdke> cool
[07:41] <mdke> carlos, the other serious issue I have is with rosetta
[07:42] <carlos> tell me
[07:42] <mdke> the language teams exist to check existing translations is that correct?
[07:43] <carlos> yes
[07:43] <mdke> but there is no way to mark translations as checked. The italian team is thinking about using a wiki page to report which translations get checked, or a mailing list (if we can find a host), but these are quite unsatisfactory solutions.
[07:44] <carlos> mdke: we have that in mind already, but we decided to let you use the system now, instead of delay it more until we implement the "reviewed" feature
[07:44] <mdke> yeah thats cool
[07:44] <mdke> so what do you think is the best temporary solution: wiki?
[07:44] <mdke> for marking translations as checked i mean
[07:44] <mdke> yeah i saw that: cool idea
[07:45] <mdke> mind if I reparent it?
[07:45] <carlos> mdke: don't know, the best solution is whatever gives you as a team more flexivility
[07:45] <mdke> carlos, yeah ok
[07:45] <carlos> mdke: I'm doing it, don't worry
[07:45] <mdke> kewl
[07:45] <carlos> but the wiki is sooooo sloooow
[07:45] <mdke> hmm
[07:45] <mdke> its ok here
[07:46] <mdke> but its not entirely user friendly ;)
[07:46] <mdke> the zwiki skin is a bit faster
[07:47] <carlos> ok, moved
[07:47] <carlos> mdke: it took about 2 minutes to rename the page...
[07:47] <mdke> ouch
[07:47] <mdke> just to reparent it?
[07:47] <mdke> sucks
[07:48] <carlos> no, rename it
[07:48] <carlos> the reparent was faster
[07:48] <mdke> even so, not great
[07:50] <mdke> oooh also i remember what i wanted to ask you: has the gpg thing been abandoned? i noticed the CoC interface is not there anymore
[07:51] <mdke> bbl cooking
[07:52] <carlos> mdke: I think it has been delayed because it's not ready yet
[08:10] <salgado> carlos, ping
[08:11] <carlos> salgado: mdke is not able to see the link you added at the team membership page to get the people/$person link of a member
[08:12] <carlos> salgado: because the page with the link is only available to admins of that team or launchpad admins
[08:12] <carlos> mdke: could you talk with salgado about this?
[08:13] <mdke> if you like
[08:13] <mdke> gimme a moment tho
[08:13] <mdke> i'm zipping between kitchen/computer
[08:16] <mdke> salgado, hi
[08:16] <salgado> mdke, carlos, that's right. the link is only on the team's memberhip page of a given person. it's mainly for team administrators to see more information about the members
[08:16] <mdke> i was just thinking it would be good if normal users would be redirected to the people/$personsname
[08:17] <salgado> right now, adding a link on that page were we display all members is problematic, because the whole row is a link
[08:17] <mdke> right
[08:17] <mdke> its not a big deal
[08:18] <mdke> its just a little more time consuming for normal users to collect information about all members