=== zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:37] fabbione: you around? [02:29] mmmm....slurpee [02:29] hrm... tempting [02:38] zul, what part of the city are you in? [02:38] kanata [02:38] oh. sorry. [02:38] :) [02:39] ok..enough with the kanata jokes i get enough of those at work :) [02:39] hehe. [02:39] we arent that psycho [02:39] i can understand why it's a desireable place to live, it's just far. ;-) [02:40] well its close to the corel center so when they turn on their power full blast we get blackouts [02:40] do you work downtown? [02:40] yikes. [02:40] yep albert at bank... [02:41] i rather work downtown then in kanata [02:41] we should meet up for a keysigning sometime. i hear you and willy met up befoe. === lamont smacks the hppa rc2-pa1 patch into 2.6.12 [02:41] kylem: sure.. [02:41] i should be at the next oclug meeting as well though [02:42] cool. that works. [02:42] lamont, heh. [02:42] freaking pinteric [02:42] i'm just relieved he didn't get elected. [02:42] kylem: mind you, it failed to apply :-( [02:42] lamont, ouch. i blame fabbione. [02:42] heh [02:43] kylem: well, the fact that it applies on top of all the other patches, makes it really unsurprising === lamont keeps the directory this time. :-) [02:43] lamont, lol. [02:46] kylem: turns out this one belongs completely to the parisc crowd [02:46] EXTRAVERSION, specifically [02:46] how so? [02:47] well, the file says 'EXTRAVERSION = ' and the parisc patch says 'rc2' -> rc2-pa1 [02:47] or rather tries to [02:47] E: linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.11.90-1_source.changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file breezy [02:47] hrmpf [02:58] miss usa is on tonight [03:20] building... time to wait for it to finish. === nocturnal_mo [~francisco@adsl-64-173-10-99.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:42] morning [04:43] lamont, heh, not removing the extraversion hunk is your fault. ;-) [04:44] kylem: herh [04:44] morning fabbione [04:44] hppa testbuild running, fwiw [04:44] lamont: rocking.. the EXTRAVERSION needs to be set to = [04:44] unfortunatly this is the 2nd hack required to build these version asymmetric kernels [04:44] fabbione: yeah [04:45] and if you notice is the 2nd file modified in the .diff.gz [04:45] because we can't patch it only at build time [04:47] lamont: do you have the kernel-team admin passwd? [04:47] yes [04:47] lamont: ok, are you administering it? [04:48] no worries here [04:48] because i noticed a lot of subscription notifications [04:48] but i can't do anything.. [04:48] hey fabbione [04:49] hey zul [04:49] for external drivers that are not a patch i take i create the directory and all the config file goodiness [04:50] er Kconfig [04:50] fabbione: I don't see that I have to actually _do_ anything with the subscriptions... [04:50] or is that not true, and I'm just clueless? [04:52] lamont: no idea.. [04:54] lamont: you didn't commit anything for hppa, did you? [04:55] fabbione: new arch for me is at http://zulinux.homelinux.net/arch [04:55] lamont: i did update the sparc buildd to handle hoary-security and hoary-updates [04:55] lamont: would you mind to double check with me if i did something horribly stupid? [04:55] zul: ah ok === zul applied for another job today.. [04:57] actually.. i can't find how to deregister the old archive [04:57] couldnt you remove it from your ~/.arch-params? [04:58] nah found it [04:58] cool [04:59] baz register-archive -d [04:59] baz register-archive http://zulinux.homelinux.net/arch [04:59] it hangs there.... [05:00] frig.. [05:00] hmmm...maybe i should install apache [05:00] maybe? :) [05:01] perhaps [05:03] are you running 2.6.11.90 now? [05:04] hmmm....the domain is not resolving.. [05:05] yes.. on 2 machines [05:05] fabbione: you want me to check in the abi files for -1 as well? :-) [05:05] and how is it running? [05:05] lamont: keep them handy for -2 yes [05:05] zul: i don'y really know.. i just installed it yesterday evening and it still didn't crash.. [05:05] fabbione: I could just check them into -1, and then they'd be there, no? [05:06] zul: have to test idiotify later [05:06] heh good luck [05:06] lamont: nope.. they will be wiped away at the first make clean [05:12] amd64 building [05:12] ppc and ia64 starting now [05:13] guys i was thinking to add a precompiler for control.stub [05:14] why? [05:14] fabbione: yeah [05:14] if [ -e debian/experimental ] ; then add_very_long_experimental_note_in_description; fi [05:15] zul: to be able to add or remove something from all the descriptions without having to manually edit it [05:15] ah ok good idea [05:15] yeah - I guess it's forgivable [05:21] right new version of cpad..ill put it my arch tomorrow...im off to bed [05:22] later.. [05:23] lamont: anyway this is only a prebuild to see if the main kernel compiles [05:24] abi files will be useless [05:24] we still need to update all the drivers [05:24] and add the new ones we want in [05:24] like ipv6 statefull firewall [05:24] yes [05:24] that will bring new config options and stuff like that [05:26] go ppc it's your birthday! [05:26] i hate that arch === lamont decides to go to bed [05:40] good night lamont [05:40] fabbione: btw, arch-hppa_pa1.dpatch sound good to you? (yeah, it's the megolith patch, but...) [05:40] yeah sure :) [05:41] since it touches a lot everywhere you can keep calling it pariscpa :) [05:41] or whatever you prefer [05:41] i really don't minf [05:41] mind [05:41] i want to keep a strict naming for the generic patches [05:41] is already committed as arch-hppa_pa1 [05:41] ok fine for me [05:42] lamont@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre1--2.6.11.90 [05:42] and currently mirroring [05:42] done [05:42] will commit back to the main branch in the morning after I verify that the builds succeeded, and maybe even boots [05:43] sure [05:43] works for me [05:44] we are not going to release this kernel anytime soon anyway [05:44] good night dude [05:44] cya later [05:44] Specialix DTR/RTS pin is RTS (SPECIALIX_RTSCTS) [N/y/?] (NEW) [05:44] AH GREAT [05:44] one of this options that can be object of endless fights [05:45] i guess we will have to modify the driver to accept a boot option === smurfix [~smurf@run.smurf.noris.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === T-Bone [~varenet@T-Bone.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:06] oy! [01:12] hey T-Bone [01:12] hi fabbione === T-Bone builds conserver on his ubuntu box, wishes it was in the archive :P === T-Bone_ [~varenet@AVelizy-115-1-1-67.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont boots 2.6.11.90-1 on hppa [02:29] hey lamont [02:30] morning fabbione [02:30] is it booting? [02:34] is booting [02:35] s/ing/ed/ [02:35] neat === lamont merges back to the trunk [02:37] fabbione: dch changed it to my changelog entry - I'm assuming you'll change it back before upload or some such [02:37] actually, looks like I'll get a conflict out of the merge, you busy boy you [02:38] lamont: it depends a lot what you changed :) [02:38] i am committing a lot [02:38] no conflict.. very odd [02:38] nah.. it's not odd [02:39] i didn't touch anything in hppa === lamont was thinknig debian/changelog [02:39] did you do a baz update? [02:39] si [02:39] ok === fabbione updates too [02:39] but I did the work on my branch several hours ago [02:40] baz update [02:40] * tree is already up to date [02:40] it's not on main yet.. is it? [02:40] commit is _now_ finished [02:40] ok [02:40] it's grabbing [02:41] yup [02:41] no conflicts at all [02:42] but we will have to rebuild other times [02:42] at least after i finish to update all the external drivers [02:43] fabbione: sure [02:44] i suggest that while we work on 2.6.11.9X we just ignore all the abi stuff [02:44] it is enough not to upload l-r-m [02:45] do we want to allign the configs across arch before this release or after? [02:45] we have time for breezy anyway [02:52] lamont : have you fetched all of archive.slashdirt.org btw? [02:52] lamont : was considering that i could rebuild (parts of) main if needed. The autobuilder is idle === zul [~chuck@198.62.158.205] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:58] hey [02:59] T-Bone_: not recently, so I assume the answer is probably no [02:59] fetching now [03:00] lamont : ok. I've built everything that could be relatively easily built. 94.77% up to date [03:01] there's the kde mystery though [03:01] YAY for ipw2200 and ipw2100! [03:01] they are out of sync at upstream! [03:02] lamont : in any case, if you want me to build whatever's missing in main with a builder that has only main in sources.list, i can do that. In anycase, i'll be finishing rackmounting the new machines tomorrow at school, and I'll wait for your input to set them up [03:05] T-Bone_: ah you didn't use the ogre model? [03:06] fabbione : given the *very* limited input i had, i used what i could setup by myself, mostly === fabbione sends T-Bone_ back to debootstrapping phase [03:06] fabbione : you see, i'm not a buildd guru and that thing is not so well documented, so to speak [03:06] fabbione : ..|.. [03:06] ;) [03:06] uhuhuh [03:06] oh behave [03:07] hppa is d00m3d [03:07] fabbione : it doesn't matter for universe [03:07] it does for main [03:07] that's why lamont is only letting his 'main' packages in [03:07] and that's why there's my 'unofficial' (ugly) archive that has everything in it [03:07] holy crap fabbione you been busy [03:08] fabbione : truth told, given we are now 3 people having hppa ubuntu running, we don't care much that our build-deps are not what they should be [03:08] zul: i haven't finished yet... [03:08] i am in the middle of ieeee ipw2100 and ipw2200 updates [03:08] that are almost like circular build-deps === T-Bone_ is now known as T-Bone [03:10] fabbione : now if you wanna write docs for the ogre model, i'd gladly read and use it :P [03:11] i updated cpad last night and a ppp-mppe [03:11] zul: ok [03:11] good.. do they compile+ [03:11] ? [03:11] was going to try this morning [03:11] T-Bone: it's way too easy to get you.. it's not even funny [03:12] if you say so [03:12] zul: anyway right now the build will fail on ipw2200 [03:12] and afs [03:12] how come? [03:12] afs ? [03:12] amiga fs [03:13] zul: because ieeee ipw2100 and ipw2200 depends on each other and i just finished ipw2100 [03:13] i need to ipdate ipw2200 [03:13] ah [03:13] asfs <- [03:13] thats what i meant [03:14] fabbione : truth is there are a couple of things that are *really* pissing me off. ia64 is one of them, wasting time because of lack of info is another, and being slapped because I haven't done something right *because of said lack of doc* is probably the biggest one ;P [03:15] T-Bone: the latter is the funniest :P [03:15] well right.. it was a long time i didn't bitch about ia64 [03:16] T-Bone: do you want the new S.O.A.D mp3? [03:16] T-Bone: mind to update the config for 2.6.12? [03:16] :P [03:16] for you maybe. It's really getting on my nerves, given the *huge* amount of time i've spent/wasted in the process [03:16] T-Bone: nah.. i already did it [03:16] ia64 is up and runnign with 2.6.12 [03:16] i would be more glad to get the installer working on it [03:16] but there is nothing i can do for it [03:16] since last time i tried ia64 it was b0rken, i don't care much [03:16] since i don't have racks and racks of ia64 [03:17] T-Bone: that's the point.. you need to fix it as ia64 porter... === caldwell [~caldwell@cerberus.dtn.radian.biz] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:17] not expecting that everybody will fix it for you [03:17] but anyway it is not my arch / not my choise.. [03:17] i don't have racks and racks, i have a rack, that's different. I can provide access. But I won't do anything without community backup, that i've been unable to get so far === T-Bone contemplates bashing a few instutions on public m-ls btw [03:18] instutions ? [03:18] fabbione : let me enlight you: I'm *NOT* an ia64 porter [03:18] if there are evidences that I am, they should be fixed [03:18] oh yeah, like Gelato for instance [03:19] aka "the guys that say 'yeah go for it we'll follow' and then watch you do the job" [03:20] https://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/teams/ia64/view?searchterm=ia64 [03:20] ic [03:20] and no... [03:20] well, if i'm to fix it, my 'fix' will be deletion [03:21] i didn't write that page it overnight :) [03:21] (of said page) [03:21] i know you didn't. It's remnant of some glorious past era [03:21] (being cynical) [03:22] this is quite a sensitive subject for me, since I didn't cover my ass, I'm the one in frontline [03:22] zul: updating the ipw2200 now.. [03:23] ipw2100 is done [03:23] cool..im just trying to compile my stuff from last night [03:23] so i am at 66.666666666666666666666666666666666666% [03:23] this has told me the hard way that one should cover his ass before doing anything, and has drastically reduced my faith in the "process" [03:25] fabbione: have you fixed debian dir from being deleted? [03:27] zul: of course.... [03:27] that's the first thing i do on each major upstream [03:27] zul: but i guess you still have to understand where the fix is :P [03:27] :P === fabbione grins [03:28] zul: you will notice that in all our kernel releases there is one file in the kernel tree that is patches from outside debian/patches [03:28] there is a reason for that :P [03:29] and that's the same reason why i told you need to get all the stuff from people AND only after to replace the debian dir from baz [03:29] lamont said that i was evil not telling you [03:29] but you have been warned the day before ;) [03:29] i couldn't spoil the fun [03:29] figgers.. [03:31] brb [03:31] must...kill... === T-Bone hands zul his pocket-sized bazooka [03:31] hrm... could kernel-team use USD 275M?... [03:31] nah - I'll drop that email [03:33] kernel-versions? === T-Bone reads some very interesting article quoted on ubuntu-devel ml [03:37] lamont, T-Bone: does hppa have some kind of HT? [03:37] no [03:37] all SMPness [03:37] HT like in HyperThreading [03:37] ok [03:37] i still suck [03:38] (ie: dual core CPUs are seen as 2 CPUs) [03:38] T-Bone: never mind how the OS looks at them [03:38] (assuming you're talking about CONFIG_HT) [03:38] i am talking if it has HT in hardware [03:38] with dual core and so on [03:38] it has dual cores yeah [03:38] ok thanks [03:38] in pa8800 [03:38] (latest CPUs) [03:40] T-Bone: ok thanks [03:41] fabbione : where comes that sudden interest for PA-RISC features? ;) [03:41] T-Bone: curiosity mainly [03:41] i don't know much about hppa hw [03:42] other than the 9100 is a huge empty piece of crap [03:42] ok...i give up [03:42] fabbione : hehe. Well, just to reassure you: yeah, SparcSucks4 sucks, as the name suggest ;) [03:42] zul: ? === zul bows at the mercy of fabbione [03:42] zul: can you explain me the problem? [03:42] SparcsSuxtyFour, even [03:42] the debian deleting [03:43] there is kernel-versions and package-list outside the debian directory [03:43] zul: did you grab the .diff .dsc from people.u.c when i published it? [03:43] yep [03:43] did you unpack it with dpkg-source -x .dsc ? [03:43] no [03:43] uh.. [03:44] you unpacked the orig [03:44] yeah [03:44] and sticked the debian dir in that [03:44] bwahahaha === T-Bone larts zul 8) [03:44] you know.. the diff.gz.. [03:44] ok just for the sake of simplicity [03:44] kill everything [03:44] if you don't have the .diff.gz .dsc do the following: [03:44] unpack the orig [03:44] as in 'rm -rf /' ? ;) === zul smacks T-Bone [03:45] cd whatever dir [03:45] vi Makefile === T-Bone dodges, points zul and laughs ;) [03:45] and set the EXTRAVERSION = [03:45] instead of rc2 [03:45] the next is scripts/packaging/Makefile [03:45] or packages [03:45] search for the only instance of debian [03:45] and comment it out [03:46] ok.. [03:46] you MIGHT notice that the instance of debian is inside a clean target rule [03:46] frigging christ.. [03:46] blame upstream [03:46] AHAHHAHA [03:46] i blame the french === T-Bone takes back the pocket bazooka, aims at zul, fires [03:47] ah. That's a good thing done ;) === fabbione powers up the sodomotron and inserts T-Bone's coordinates === zul T-Bone in his lower colon === T-Bone listens to "Arena di Verona / Verdi - Nabucco / Va Pensiero", has a thought for fabbione ;) [03:52] back to work.. [03:52] fabbione : dude. You're so utterly scatological perv, to say the least... ;P [03:55] fabbione: switch to using the colostomizer [03:56] lamont : weird, i'd have thought you'd suggested some practical highly explosive matterial instead ;] [03:57] -t [03:58] T-Bone: I just love that word, taht's all [03:58] thank you simpsons [03:58] ehhee [03:58] heh. you perv ;) [03:58] yeah. Simpsons perv, should i have said :) [03:59] OTOH, fabbione is stupid enough to blow himself with explosives, instead of blowing his target (me). That'd be nice though ;) [03:59] hmmm...the compile fails with gcc 4 === T-Bone figures a TexAvery-like blown-fabbione-face, has a laugh ;) [03:59] zul : heh, what a surprise, my dear :P [04:00] its one of our patches [04:15] "And radio buttons look like they were drawn in the dark by a drunk with a broken pencil." [04:15] how cute ;) [04:15] whats this? [04:15] http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/04/11/ubuntu [04:15] (point 52. I *love* point 45, fwiw ;) [04:16] holy crap.. [04:17] (and point 37 is unsurprising to me) [04:18] ok update for the ipw2200 committed [04:18] the kernel should be able to build again [04:19] zul: what drivers did you update? [04:19] i am planning to stop now.. [04:19] if so.. are you also updating debian/external-drivers ? [04:20] ppp-mppe and cpad so far [04:20] zul: ok [04:20] just use external-drivers to keep track [04:20] and i have a couple of bugs about external drivers in bugzilla as well [04:20] thats what i have been doing [04:21] zul: yeah we have a bunch in bugzilla [04:21] and fixing some gcc4 stuff.. [04:21] but before dragging in 30984 external drivers we should decide if we want them or not first [04:21] gcc4 is not a priority right now [04:21] we need to get our tree updated first [04:21] im running gcc4 at home [04:21] otherwise it will keep failing somehere [04:22] anyway i need a break [04:22] fabbione : i might have some time to toy around on my ppc later today, if that can help [04:22] later guys [04:22] T-Bone: boot the kernel :) [04:22] kay :) === T-Bone baz get topic archive [04:25] oh and dont do what i did [04:25] zul : i'm much smarter than you are ;) [04:25] Teeheeheehee [04:25] T-Bone: if you could see the finger im showing you right now you wouldnt be impressed [04:26] no i wouldn't [04:26] ;) [04:28] hmm [04:29] zul : would you please point me at the place where fabbione's diff/orig live? :} [04:30] (you can use whatever finger for that, i don't care ;o) [04:35] let me use my middle finger and i can point you to http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~fabbione [04:35] hmm [04:35] i must have looked at the wrong place there, can't find it :P [04:35] hmmm..he must have deleted them [04:35] there's the orig [04:35] not the diff [04:35] fsck [04:36] gimme a sec. [04:36] there's an ugly picture of his hacking area too ;) [04:36] because i like you ill help you up [04:37] http://zulinux.homelinux.net/ [04:37] zul : duuuuuuuude, you're so keen on me. Thaaaank you ssooooooo muuuuuuch (figure out the voice of Britney Spears playing hooker, as usual) ;) [04:37] eww === T-Bone fetches [04:38] zul : since i like you too, i'm fetching the orig from p.u.c, to avoid hogging your bw ;) [04:40] thanks [04:40] it also saves me some time ;) [04:41] bastard [04:41] thoug p.u.c is *slow* dog ;) [04:42] there it is. I have them all, thx [04:42] no probs [04:43] ewww [04:44] i've just been looking at d-private mail. Damn, yet another GFDL flamewar ;P [04:44] are you surprised? [04:44] hell no [04:44] gfdl? [04:44] let them provide useless free tools with no doc at all :P [04:44] lol [04:44] Gnu Free Doc License [04:45]