=== zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:43] i take it the meeting is over === qman [~ryan@pool-70-16-64-129.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont_r [~lamont@209.120.156.178] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === davidj [~david@cpe-069-134-087-054.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont__r [~lamont@209.120.156.178] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:55] Where's a good place to find a comparison between Opterons and Xeons? [01:55] davidj: tomshardware.com or anandtech.com might be a start [01:56] qman: Thank you. [01:56] yup === davidj [~david@cpe-069-134-087-054.carolina.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] === cc [~cc@c210-49-121-44.eburwd3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:41] wtf === T-Bone [varenet@T-Bone.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:26] morning [07:13] i guess zul didn't put up his archive yet [09:02] lamont: i am going to parse bugzilla for external drivers requests and see how much we can include in the first shot [09:02] cool [09:03] i am sure some of them are ok to go right away [09:03] btw, the arch-hppa_pa1 patch (probably?) contains some newer-than-upstream driver changes, esp in the sym58xx driver, iirc. [09:03] lamont: well the sym58xx is upstream.. isn't it? [09:03] since willy likes to use the parisc tree as his personal testing ground before pushing them into linux (he's upstream for that driver) [09:03] ah i see [09:03] well we can wait for willy to push it upstream [09:03] exactly [09:04] or otherwise you need to split the patch out of parisc [09:04] yeah, and I'm just not all that motivated to do that... [09:04] i don't mind to coordinate with willy and use ubuntu as test bed [09:04] neither am i :) [09:05] let see if willy has it splitted already :) [09:07] baz commit -s'Update acpi_sony' [09:07] ssh: sftp: Name or service not known [09:07] kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre1--2.6.11.90: not a valid archive name or url. [09:07] baz 1.4 is broken [09:12] that's why I stick to what we ship our customers (aka hoary) [09:12] lamont: yeah.. i know.. [09:12] hehe [09:33] baz commit -s'Update atmel firmwarez' [09:33] whoops :) === T-Bone_ [~varenet@AVelizy-115-1-1-67.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:48] booh === fabbione larts T-Bone to start a good day [09:50] cool [09:50] http://sloss.free.fr/gallerie/index.php?gal=5 <- have you been posing for that? ;} [09:53] ehehe [09:53] =) [09:53] i did pose for warthogs :) [09:54] lol [09:54] the warthogs suites me better in shape and size :P [09:54] rotfl [09:54] what an ugly person you must be 8) [09:54] Teeheehee >:-) === T-Bone_ contemplates UDU agenda, doesn't quite agree with all items, but heh [10:02] hu. Breezy uploads are open, heh === Seveas [~seveas@ksl403-uva-142.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === T-Bone_ contemplates uploading a bunch of hppa fixes [10:19] yeah but there are no binaries [10:19] not until they will decide what to do with the ToolChain [10:20] k === T-Bone_ grumbles at kernel developers that return a bare struct allocated within the function :P === Seveas [~seveas@ksl403-uva-142.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:52] Mithrandir : I think it's wouldn't be the first time RMS shows signs of mental disease ;P === T-Bone_ ducks [11:52] T-Bone_: -private? [11:52] yeah === T-Bone_ wanders of for lunch, bbl === T-Bone_ is now known as T-Gone === Lathiat [~lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === T-Gone is now known as T-Bone_ === fabbione waits for the turtles to finish the kernel build [01:47] T-Bone_: if you could test the ia32-libs from Debian and make sure I haven't broken anything, I'd appreciate [01:49] Mithrandir : you mean testing Debian unstable's package on a Debian box, right? [01:49] and on Ubuntu, yes [01:49] the same package? [01:49] yes [01:49] please [01:49] ok [01:49] I want to sync it [01:50] will do, though I can't tell you when yet (i'll be doing some handwork in my DC this evening, and I might be a bit tired when I'm done ;P [01:53] ok [01:53] theoretically -1 is ready to go [01:53] all our arches builds/boots [01:53] at least.. to the best of my knowledge [01:54] eww. That doesn't mean much then 8) === T-Bone_ ducks === fabbione kills hppa from the kernel.. forever [01:56] bwahhaha [01:57] sparc wins on i386 and ppc [01:57] it took less time to build the kernel than the other 2 arches === T-Bone_ watches lamont preparing plastic sticks to blow up fabbione's house 8) [01:58] fabbione : let me guess: there's nothing enabled in that kernel, you're building half as much flavours as these archs have, or what? :) [01:58] no.. you can just branch and maintain separate packages [01:58] T-Bone: same configs as before... [01:58] fabbione so you've got your hands on some awesome hardware? [01:59] but when ccache hits, sparc I/O > (ppc | i386) I/O [01:59] huhu [01:59] T-Bone: same as yesterday [01:59] fabbione: I/O doesn't matter when you've all in RAM. ;) === T-Bone_ ^5s Mithrandir ;) [01:59] Mithrandir: it matters when it goes to ccache [01:59] all the arches didn't have the kernel in RAM [01:59] fabbione: then you have too little RAM. :P [01:59] Mithrandir: ppc has 2GB.. davis [02:00] i386 1GB [02:00] and then memory bandwidth/latency wins, which means: AMD64! [02:00] sparc 512Mb [02:00] :) [02:00] ewww [02:00] Mithrandir: i didn't mention concordia dude! [02:00] hppa has 4 to 8GB ;) [02:00] Mithrandir: that one beats everything === T-Bone__ [~varenet@AVelizy-115-1-1-67.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:11] gaah, fsckin laggy connX [02:12] Riktig gjetta, detta er en homsekanal! [02:13] fabbione: er? [02:13] ahaha [02:13] j/K [02:13] doesn't that mean something like: "that's right, this is a gaysex channel!" [02:13] does [02:15] reminds me of that French teacher when i went in England during a student exchange program, who asked me the best insults he could teach his students. They were barely be able to ask for food, yet he thought swearing was more important ;P [02:16] Oui, vous l'avez devin. c'est un cannal de sexe homosexuel. [02:16] s/sexe// [02:16] err, s/de sexe// [02:16] whatever.. i don't speak french anyway [02:17] that's a chance for us ;) [02:17] Sonotoori.. Koko wa geisekkusu suru channeru nandayo~ [02:17] LOL [02:17] not that bad [02:17] i know [02:18] we have a bot that has the same sentence translated in like 100 languages [02:18] you're copy/pasting, aren't you? You don't know japanese? ;) [02:18] you pityful l4m3 ;P [02:18] when somebody joins it randomically send out that sentence in the proper language according to the connecting ip [02:18] lol [02:19] am i to assume you're running a gay chan? :) === T-Bone__ is now known as T-Bone_ [02:19] it's not my chan... [02:19] otherwise i would have written "in MY chan" [02:19] yet you're hanging on it. I wonder what your wife has to say about that ;) [02:20] you said "we". I could assume there are others like you (what a disgusting thought, though =] ) [02:20] it's not a gaysex chan either... [02:20] or a sex chan :) [02:20] lol [02:20] i thought everychan was about sex somehow? :) [02:20] it's like somebody enters here and we say that this isn't a kernel chan [02:21] T-Bone_: no really.. you can't make me hot [02:21] that's ok. I don't have the IQ of an oyster you know. No need to explain me things more than once ;P [02:21] fabbione : i'm glad i can't, actually 8) [02:22] time for a nap [02:22] bbl [02:23] all arches are greenlight, but no upload yet === zul [~chuck@198.62.158.205] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:18] http://zulinux.homelinux.net/Archives/zulcss@gmail.com--2005/ [03:28] of course the power has to go out again at home when im at work! === zul ottawa hydro [03:31] kills even === T-Bone_ contemplates 450 days uptime on his home MTA machine, laughs at zul ;) [03:34] fuck im cursed this week [03:35] as long as you're not coursed, everything's ok ;) [03:35] well at least im going to a hockey game tonight === T-Bone_ is mostly doomed with buggy hardware to drive, lately. Fsckin PITA [03:36] heh [03:37] sometimes hw designers should be brought together in a psychiatric hospital to get their brains fixed :P [03:37] with a very large bat? [03:37] if nothing else's available... I was more thinking of an atomic bomb or the like... [03:39] thats a bit too harsh [03:39] i'm not quite sure it's enough, actually ;P [04:25] fabbione: ping [04:25] zul : he's having a nap ;) [04:26] ooo.. === T-Bone_ heads to uni's DC for racking-fu [04:27] see yall [04:41] re [04:42] hey fabbione sorry about the arch stuff i had it working last night but a power outage knocked it out this morning and i have no way of rebooting [04:42] but i see you updated it anyways [04:43] zul: well i had to update anyway [04:43] yeah i saw [04:43] because i couldn't wait any longer [04:43] yeah thats fine [04:44] but there shouldnt be any more problems from me.. [04:46] but anyways how is it going? [04:46] it's going good [04:46] good [04:48] im going out with my mother in law tonight ;) [04:53] and i dont know why i said that [04:57] so what drivers have you not updated? [04:58] they are all updated [04:58] ok [04:58] we need to start to look at bugzilla and make a list of the ones we can import [04:59] we should have a todo list and split it up amongst ourselves [05:04] ttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=bugs.resolution%2C+relevance+desc&bug_status=__all__&product=&content=driver [05:15] this is a quicklist pass through of the drivers requested with the above url: [05:15] sk98lin - 8937 [05:15] spca5xx usb - 2624 [05:15] Wacom - 2396 [05:15] acx_pci - 7160 [05:15] azx audio driver - 6629 [05:15] linksys wusb11 - 1534 [05:15] uli526x - 3618 [05:15] perc 4e - 8817 [05:15] qc-usb webcam - 6145 [05:15] ralink rt2500 -2570 [05:15] acer hotkeys - 8628 [05:15] pscax50x - 4500 [05:15] wlb2011pcm - 8152 [05:15] audigy 2 NX - 9068 [05:15] zul: kernel-team@ [05:15] ov511 - 8745 [05:15] belkin f5d6051 - 2652 [05:15] driver - bug # [05:15] ok [05:15] spam spam spam. [05:15] spam spam eggs & spam. [05:15] yeah so? :) [05:16] sorry, i've a final i'm going to fail in a couple hours. [05:16] so i'm kind of nutty. ;-) [05:16] ov511 and 9068 are upstream.. probably only buggy [05:19] send an email to kernel-team [05:19] now i can go back to my regularily scheduled program [05:21] holy crap its 11:30 already? [05:22] zul: where do you live? [05:22] Canada [05:22] am or pm? [05:22] am [05:22] ah [05:22] almost time for lunch [05:22] heading towards midnight here :) [05:23] signapore? [05:32] perth, western australia, australia [05:33] ah [06:06] zul: you are lazy [06:06] the list is far to be completed [06:06] we need to go trough buzgilla manually [06:25] fabbione: it was a quick overview [06:25] no way complete [06:27] zul: i understand, but we need to go trough all of them :) [06:28] duh :) [06:31] i wonder how divergent aacraid is... === caldwell [~caldwell@cerberus.dtn.radian.biz] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] [06:35] fabbione: do you have a todo list or something we can have a look at? [06:36] zul: nope.. we need to go trough the list of all requested external/update drivers [06:36] and evaluate which ones to include or not [06:36] and get the ok once in before the first upload [06:37] s/once/ones [06:56] spam.. [06:56] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&component=linux&component=linux-kernel-headers&component=linux-meta&component=linux-wlan-ng&component=UNKNOWN&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&resolution=DUP [06:56] LICATE&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= [06:56] holy crap. [06:58] zul: www.tinyurl.com dudde === fabbione larts zul [07:01] heh...this is not a good week for me ;) [07:02] http://tinyurl.com/4kn2e [07:03] much better :) [07:07] via has relased some drivers for their video cards as well [07:10] drm? [07:11] think so [07:11] http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/2005_archive/pr050412_driversource.jsp [07:12] ENOCARE :) [07:12] via sucks anyway [07:12] yeah but some users still use via [07:13] time for them to change to some sane hw [07:13] :) [07:15] heh [07:25] hm [07:25] what generates the pci maps? [07:25] something at buildtime [07:25] it uses the pci_table thingy [07:25] fabbione: damn, you're useful. ;P [07:26] if i knew it, i was not going to ask for a patch :) [07:26] you're supposed to be the kernel god [07:27] i delegate some of my allmighy duties to the others === fabbione hides [07:27] brb [07:28] god my ass :) [07:34] whoops...said the quiet part outloud [07:34] hhahaha [07:35] bah, I need more memory for my amd64 box. [07:36] only half a gig is useless for compiling shit. [07:36] a bit more than 100E for a gig more.. hmm [07:37] Mithrandir: keep in mind you are going to be married.. buy as much hw as you can NOW! [07:38] fabbione: nah, I don't buy hardware, I just end up with it. [07:38] ehehe [07:39] Mithrandir: she wont let you buy hardware anymore you have to sneak it in [07:40] zul: she's a geek too. It's me stopping this place from overflowing ATM. :P [07:41] hehe..wanna trade? :) === fabbione starts to take a look at GFS [07:49] nfs v4 [07:51] zul: that is already part of our kernel.. [07:51] at least.. we build it [07:51] bleah...nm [08:00] impressive.. the patches did apply without any problem [08:00] i wonder if it compiles :) [08:02] with the kerberos patches? [08:02] Mithrandir: plain GFS from RH CVS [08:02] nah, the kerberos 4 stuff [08:03] Mithrandir: meh.. why? [08:03] because kerberos and nfs4 is love. [08:04] nah... [08:04] GFS > * [08:04] nfs is boring [08:04] nfs4 is interesting [08:05] well i heard some stuff about it.. but never got around to actually test it [08:05] + i don't think it supports clustering as GFS does [08:05] and i am looking at the latter [08:05] I though GFS was just a good way to deadlock your kernel? [08:06] have you gotten any further on the xen stuff, btw? [08:06] Mithrandir: xen at the moment is no GO [08:06] and probably we won't be able to package images [08:06] not with 2.0.5 at least [08:07] i was talking with mjg59 and another guy in london [08:07] basically 2.0.5 is way to sensitive to the hw [08:07] it uses a microkernel to boot the real kernel [08:07] and they realized that it is *BAD* [08:07] so now they are changing the implementation [08:08] making the normal kernel to boot first [08:08] (that it is know to work) [08:08] and taking over at a later stage [08:09] ok [08:09] do you have any idea on ETA for it? [08:09] nope [08:09] also because they have their tree in bk :) [08:09] http://xen.sf.net/ [08:11] CONFIG_FS_GFS? [08:11] m [08:15] hmm, the map file is made by depmod [08:17] yeah and it uses infos from the modules === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:22] you know what would be nice a arguement that will build only one kernel without removing the configs [08:22] zul: uh? [08:23] say that i only want to build a 386 kernel, so i would do something like [08:23] dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us -b 386 [08:23] rm debian/config/{686,k7}* [08:23] and then the rules file in the debian directory would only build 386 [08:24] i know but without removing debian/config/{686,k7}* [08:24] i know :) [08:24] something like export FLAVOUR="386" dpkg-buildpackage or something [08:24] zul: patch debian/rules to support it [08:25] i don't mind to add this stuff [08:25] or even export IMPATIENT [08:25] just be sure to use an ENVVAR that is not common [08:25] oh i will [08:25] i just have to figure it out [08:30] wha... [08:31] bah [08:31] bla [08:31] gfs requires another set of kernel modules just to build.... [08:31] hah hah [08:31] at least it's all there [08:31] just need more crack :) [08:35] mm, crack [08:37] dilinger: you got mail [08:48] fabbione: seems like i2o_block needs to grow something like: [08:48] static struct pci_device_id i2o_block_ids = { [08:48] { 0x1044 0xa511, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0x10400, 0, 0, 0, }, [08:48] { 0, } [08:48] } [08:48] MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE(pci, i2o_block_ids); [08:49] Mithrandir: cool.. send me the patch please :) [08:49] or in an email [08:49] that's a patch. :P [08:49] and i will add it immediatly [08:49] I'll put it in the bug report [08:49] Mithrandir: just an email please :) [08:49] ok [08:51] but my gf forces me to pack for LCA and UDU now, so I'm off === T-Bone_ [~varenet@shirka.esiee.fr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:48] fabbione, ping? [09:49] hey T-Bone === T-Bone_ guesses it's too late. May Mithrandir could help, having trouble installing an U30 :] [09:49] hey zul [09:55] too much perl can kill you [10:00] perl made me sterile [10:00] im pretty damn close [10:01] perl is good for you [10:02] i thought you were packing [10:02] I am [10:02] actually, I think I'm fairly done. [10:02] son now I just need to think [10:02] about what I've forgotten [10:02] good thing I'm not leaving until saturday, my luggage is only half-full so far [10:03] when is udu again? [10:05] oh you wacky italians [10:05] T-Bone: i doubt can be installed at the moment. we will have to wait for breezy [10:05] you damn Short [10:05] bbl [10:05] gotta see some wedding pics with my wife [10:06] cool...it will suck the life out of you though === T-Bone_ guesses he'll install the U30 another day, too much a pain. Maybe the box is b0rken, even [10:08] zul: you are asking for it, don't you? [10:08] i was just reading about the juventus liverpool game [10:09] fabbione, actually i was planning to install debian meanwhile [10:12] right...im out of here [10:12] c ya later [10:22] cluster/cman/cnxman.c:1092: error: structure has no member named `sk_zapped' [10:22] doh! [10:25] could anyone tell me what i should put in my ia64 sources.list file; btw? === T-Bone_ is currently at uni; finishing racking some material [10:25] T-Bone_, http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian unstable main [10:25] ;-) [10:25] lol [10:26] T-Bone_, let me grep my log to see if someone's mentioned it here. [10:26] thx [11:03] s *.ko [11:03] gfs.ko [11:03] crack! === T-Bone_ is almost done. machines are up, SCSI arrays are up, needs some cable cleansing love and it'll be done [11:05] too bad i can't get that U30 to work ;)