[05:50] <dholbach> morning
[05:53] <robitaille> morning?  I just put the kids to bed and my bed time is also coming up :)
[05:53] <ogra> 5:51am here :)
[05:54] <Amaranth> 9 minutes until the meeting? just enough time to go smoke
[05:54] <dholbach> Amaranth: depends on WHAT you're going to smoke
[05:55] <Amaranth> marlboro :)
[06:02] <Alessio> i'm here
[06:02] <dredg> offs, wake the hell up! ;)
[06:02] <coastGNU> It's my first time at a ubuntu-meeting. Will anyone give a start signal??
[06:03] <crimsun> hey jthood!
[06:03] <crimsun> glad to see you're applying for maintainership :)
[06:03] <Phython> coastGNU: If you stay quiet you might not get notice
[06:03] <schweeb> coastGNU: best idea would probably be just to sit back and go with the flow :)
[06:03] <Phython> d
[06:03] <jdthood> Hello.  I initially thought the meeting was on #ubuntu, but obviously not.
[06:04] <coastGNU> schweeb: I'm just fighting not to flow asleep. :-)
[06:05] <ogra> hmm, where's mako ?
[06:05] <schweeb> maybe he forgot, heh
[06:05] <ogra> hrm....
[06:05] <schweeb> not so good!
[06:06] <Amaranth> should have started 5 minutes ago :)
[06:06] <coastGNU> may anyone ring Mako up?
[06:06] <ogra> i pinged him in -devel
[06:06] <dredg> er, relax.
[06:07] <diamond> dredg: at 5am, the real danger is of relaxing too much -)
[06:07] <ogra> dredg, i'd like to, yes....
[06:07] <smurfix> ogra: he's been idle for 3h, that's unlikely to have helped ;-)
[06:08] <ogra> smurfix, thats bad.....
[06:09] <Alessio> hi smurfix 
[06:10] <Alessio> mako is on the bed yet..
[06:13] <coastGNU> Alessio: Mako, which timezone, east coast USA?
[06:13] <dredg> so, does anyone have a way of reaching mako?
[06:13] <Alessio> the meeting is postponed tomorrow night ;)
[06:13] <dholbach> coastGNU: yes
[06:13] <schweeb> mako's Eastern time
[06:13] <Alessio> coastGNU, 0.00 am i think
[06:13] <schweeb> it's midnight right now
[06:13] <dholbach> so thats no reason not to attend :-)
[06:14] <schweeb> indeed
[06:14] <schweeb> he's usually awake this time of night...
[06:15] <Alessio> awake in a pub?
[06:15] <jdthood> Can anyone here call this meeting to order or shall we consider it cancelled?
[06:16] <jdthood> mdz?  Kamion?  thom?  lamont?  fabbione?
[06:17] <Alessio> sabfdl, where is he?
[06:17] <dholbach> jdthood: kamion and elmo are fast asleep, as for sabdfl i don't know, those 3 + mako can chair the CC
[06:18] <coastGNU> jdthood: May be it might be a good idea to start with a topic which may be discussed. So we may be able to get prepared for a follow up meeting?
[06:19] <jdthood> First item on the agenda is a list of new membership candidates.  We can skip that.
[06:19] <dholbach> dredg is about to send mako an sms
[06:19] <jdthood> Second item on the agenda is ' Need for IRC operators/moderators for #ubuntu?
[06:19] <tritium> speaking of that, bob2 should be here...
[06:19] <ogra> yep
[06:20] <coastGNU> 3rd item? LoCoTeams and Mailing list process
[06:20] <jdthood> "At the next CC meeting, everyone on the channel will be invited and there will be a decision for operatorship by rough consensus."
[06:20] <fabbione> sorry i am late
[06:20] <ogra> fabbione, nope
[06:20] <ogra> fabbione, mako is missing
[06:20] <smurfix> fabbione: Others are even later :-/
[06:20] <fabbione> ah ok
[06:21] <jdthood> Ref: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mako/cc-summary-20050322.html
[06:21] <ogra> fabbione, as well as the rest of CC
[06:22] <jdthood> Third item on the agenda, as coastGNU pointed out, is: LoCoTeams and Mailing list process. We need a way to recognize when teams become teams and what the relationship should be between language lists, moderators, and LoCoTeams is -- if any.
[06:22] <Amaranth> How do you volunteer to be an operator? Just say something? :)
[06:24] <coastGNU> Amaranth: By the principle of doocracy? Cite of Knut Irvyn, Skolelinux, 'We are a doocracy' :)
[06:25] <ogra> coastGNU, how does that work with having a dictator ?
[06:25] <ogra> oh, .au wakes up :)
[06:26] <daniels> i've been awake for five hours
[06:26] <daniels> and already uploaded two packages to breezy :P
[06:26] <ogra> heh, i saw :)
[06:26] <dholbach> daniels: you rock! we love you! :-)
[06:26] <dredg> daniels: yeah, not to keep score or anything... ;)
[06:26] <crimsun> I've uploaded an updated xfdesktop4, too
[06:27] <jdthood> I am considering the meeting cancelled.
[06:29] <Alessio> oh
[06:29] <daniels> actually, i think three today ... depends on whether i did nvidia-settings today or last night (i can't remember)
[06:29] <daniels> dholbach: oh man
[06:29] <dholbach> daniels: you're right, we might run into trouble with that one :-)
[06:30] <Alessio> can the CC start?
[06:30] <daniels> the thought of uploading stuff to rocky scares me
[06:30] <dholbach> haha :-)
[06:30] <Alessio> wake up 6 a.m. for nothing?
[06:30] <Alessio> :(
[06:31] <aj> so what's meant to be discussed, can't you just have an informal meeting, and thrust minutes on to the slacker chairs when they wake up?
[06:31] <crimsun> aj: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[06:33] <ogra> aj, there have to be approved a lot of members, which cant be made without their decision...
[06:33] <aj> oh, all decision making things
[06:33] <ogra> jop
[06:33] <Alessio> uhm..
[06:33] <aj> could work out a way to reco'nize when teams become teams
[06:33] <Amaranth> Doesn't everything need chair approval?
[06:34] <ogra> nearly...
[06:34] <coastGNU> If we figure out some arguments in a discussion it might be helpfull for a follow up meeting?
[06:34] <Alessio> ogra, are we waiting only mako?
[06:35] <ogra> looks like...
[06:35] <dholbach> Alessio: the other CC members should be sleeping (as for sabdfl i dont know)
[06:35] <ogra> i see no items that coud be handled without CC on the agenda
[06:35] <Alessio> i think that #ubuntu needs some operator
[06:35] <Amaranth> call one of them? :)
[06:36] <ogra> bob2 did a survey among possible candidates, he is missing too
[06:36] <dholbach> Amaranth: dredg sent an sms to mako
[06:36] <Amaranth> does a phone ring when it gets an sms?
[06:36] <Amaranth> a little light just starts blinking on mine
[06:36] <siretart> Amaranth: depends on the phone ;)
[06:37] <ogra> Amaranth, mine beeps...
[06:37] <aj> elmo's phone rings louder and louder 'til he wakes up
[06:37] <dholbach> poor elmo
[06:37] <Alessio> but is there any problem in syncronization of CC members ;) ?
[06:37] <aj> unfortunately he's coming to .au by next week and i value my life
[06:37] <coastGNU> Amaranth: depends on configuration, I would suggest to phone him directly. Should be the same number I would say.
[06:37] <dholbach> aj: hahaha
[06:37] <ogra> heh
[06:38] <Amaranth> where is elmo located? i could get screamed at if he is in the US :)
[06:38] <ogra> Amaranth, UK
[06:38] <aj> UK, where it's 4am or 5am or so
[06:38] <Amaranth> ah
[06:39] <diamond> 5:39am.
[06:39] <ogra> 5:38
[06:39] <ogra> heh
[06:39] <Alessio> bad time
[06:39] <coastGNU> Alessio: good time to get out of bed...
[06:39] <Alessio> but why have they fixed that CC?
[06:39] <dholbach> i get myself another coffee, call me, if i take too much time :-)
[06:39] <schweeb> I don't think elmo abides by the most normal of sleeping hours anyways, heh
[06:40] <aj> what, 3am to midday's not normal? :)
[06:40] <Alessio> for rotate?
[06:42] <Alessio> 41 minutes.. it's late
[06:42] <schweeb> yea
[06:42] <schweeb> well, mako's probably the best candidate for a phone call, if anyone has his number :)
[06:42] <Alessio> bad wake up this morning
[06:43] <Alessio>  ;D
[06:43] <dholbach> http://mako.yukidoke.org/contact.html
[06:44] <ogra> crimsun, you took a volovoguy background ? 
[06:44] <schweeb> I'd call, but my cell phone is uber-out-of-range at my house
[06:44] <tritium> I don't mind calling -- free long distance for me.
[06:44] <crimsun> ogra: nope, for now I just followed upstream's request to change it to non-Xfld
[06:45] <Alessio> bah
[06:45] <schweeb> tritium: same
[06:45] <ogra> crimsun, ah, because you wrote oliver....
[06:45] <schweeb> I live in an area devoid of cellular signal
[06:45] <crimsun> ogra: jani and I will work on getting/making some Ubuntu-specific Xfce artwork
[06:45] <tritium> I'll call...
[06:45] <Amaranth> oh, mako is in US
[06:45] <ogra> crimsun, yeah, that sounds great....
[06:45] <dholbach> crimsun: rock :-)
[06:45] <Amaranth> cell phone gets free long distance after 9pm, i can call
[06:45] <tritium> That's a Seattle area code, but I think he's in N.Y.
[06:46] <dredg> dholbach: that number is where i sent the sms to. either he's not checking his phone at all or my provider is silently dropping intl. messages
[06:46] <Amaranth> or tritium can
[06:46] <dredg> if someone wants to call him, fire ahead
[06:46] <dholbach> a call might be best
[06:46] <tritium> cool
[06:46] <diamond> dredg: sms to us providers is a... gamble 
[06:47] <Alessio> who call him? should i call?
[06:47] <dredg> diamond: yeah, it's gsm though so i'm counting on it being sane(ish)
[06:47] <crimsun> I can if Mike doesn't
[06:47] <crimsun> or perhaps we both will
[06:48] <crimsun> tritium: are you calling?
[06:48] <tritium> yes
[06:48] <tritium> chatting
[06:48] <crimsun> k, thanks.
[06:48] <tritium> he can be here in about 30 mints
[06:48] <tritium> minutes
[06:48] <schweeb> works for me
[06:49] <schweeb> who needs sleep anyways
[06:49] <crimsun> ok, so we will postpone for 30 mins
[06:49] <dholbach> thanks tritium 
[06:50] <crimsun> 0530 UTC then?
[06:50] <diamond> tritium: yay. cheers for making getting up at 5am not a complete waste of time -)
[06:50] <schweeb> I suppose I should eat dinner
[06:50] <Alessio> 30 minutes?
[06:50] <Alessio> oh..
[06:50] <crimsun> 0515 would be closer to 30 mins, but 0530 is more considerate ;)
[06:51] <Amaranth> unless ubuntu isn't updating my time 30 minutes is 0521 :)
[06:51] <tritium> Okay, just got off the phone.
[06:51] <tritium> He'll be here in roughly 30 minutes.
[06:51] <crimsun> great, thanks.
[06:52] <tritium> however, without the rest of the council, he thinks we'll push the meeting to Thursday
[06:52] <crimsun> sounds reasonable to me
[06:53] <dredg> yeah, doesn't it take 2 to approve new members?
[06:53] <tritium> So he'll post to #ubuntu-news with the meeting reschedule details.
[06:53] <ogra> dredg, afaik yes...
[06:53] <dredg> or is my sleep-deprived brain making things up?
[06:53] <dholbach> ubuntu-news@ rather, hm?
[06:54] <crimsun> or -devel?
[06:54] <tritium> dholbach, heh, yes :)
[06:54] <crimsun> ah
[06:54] <tritium> he specifically said "news"
[06:54] <crimsun> right
[06:54] <dholbach> anway... i'm taking the dog out... bbl
[06:54] <tritium> But he'll still be back online soon, even if the meeting is canceled
[06:56] <Alessio> can the meeting cancelled?
[06:56] <Alessio> the i can come bacj to bed..
[06:56] <tritium> rescheduled
[06:56] <Alessio> who can decide it?
[06:57] <ogra> night all
[06:57] <tritium> night ogra 
[06:59] <Alessio> i come back
[06:59] <Alessio> to the bed
[07:00] <Alessio> i hope that the meeting'll be reschedule..
[07:00] <Alessio> in the next days--
[07:00] <tritium> Alessio, plan on Thursday, according to mako
[07:00] <Alessio> same time?
[07:01] <schweeb> tritium: our Thursday or UTC thursday
[07:01] <Alessio> tritium, smae time?
[07:01] <Alessio> *same
[07:01] <tritium> schweeb, I guess either wait 30 minutes or so and talk to mako, or watch for his post to ubuntu-news
[07:01] <schweeb> yea
[07:02] <Alessio> night all
[07:02] <tritium> night
[07:02] <Alessio> 1 hour
[07:02] <Alessio> too late..
[07:02] <Treenaks> 4*mumbles something about daylight saving*
[07:03] <Amaranth> yeah, it would be 11pm right now and i wouldn't be forcing myself to stay up :)
[07:04] <Treenaks> the old time (1600 UTC) was not good for me (at 17:00 I'm in the bus home)
[07:04] <Treenaks> this time is bad as well: I'm going to work in 5 minutes 8)
[07:05] <Amaranth> well, hopefully the meetings won't go over an hour :)
[07:05] <Amaranth> hard to pick a time that people around the world can make
[07:05] <Treenaks> Amaranth: yeah,  rotating schedule would probably be best
[07:06] <coastGNU> Amaranth: May be we should use stardate time? ;-)
[07:06] <Treenaks> (sometimes 4:00 UTC, sometimes 8:00 UTC, sometimes 12:00 UTC, etc
[07:11] <diamond> Treenaks: it currently is on a 6 hour incrementing rotation
[07:11] <Alessio> the next at 8:00 UTC i think
[07:11] <Alessio> night all
[07:12] <dredg> diamond: naturally. the next meeting won't be held last week
[07:12] <dholbach> re
[07:13] <tritium> hi dholbach
[07:13] <diamond> dredg: ye..es
[07:14] <dredg> diamond: remember, half the world's population is water. the other 96% is wheat.
[07:14] <dredg> that's just not enough
[07:15] <diamond> lol
[07:38] <mako> tritium: greetings
[07:39] <tritium> hi mako :)
[07:39] <dholbach> hi mako
[07:39] <mako> hey everyone
[07:39] <dholbach> mako: any chance of getting someone of the other CC members here?
[07:40] <mako> dholbach: hmmmm
[07:40] <Amaranth> a couple of people that were on the agenda left already, didn't they?
[07:40] <tritium> mako, I hope you don't mind the phone call.  Did you make the "acceptance face" out of surprise?
[07:40] <mako> i think the chance of getting mark is very very low
[07:40] <mako> tritium: no, i'm glad you called
[07:41] <mako> i put the phone number up there for a reason
[07:41] <tritium> good deal
[07:41] <mako> croatians calling me at 4am because their shipments are in customs.. less good :)
[07:41] <mako> this, fine :)
[07:41] <diamond> lol
[07:41] <tritium> :)
[07:41] <mako> so anyway
[07:41] <mako> i thought the meetings were scheduled for the tuesdays always.. 
[07:42] <mako> in any case, there has been confusion on this one, and some, er selective memory i think
[07:42] <mako> when the meeting is at 4am, your memory gets selective
[07:42] <mako> so.. is there a log to speak of?
[07:43] <Amaranth> not really, nothing has happened
[07:43] <mako> alright
[07:43] <mako> well, i suspect tritium conveyed my message
[07:43] <tritium> I did
[07:43] <mako> voice->irc :)
[07:43] <mako> elmo and kamion have not been idle for too long
[07:43] <tritium> :)
[07:44] <schweeb> greetings mako
[07:44] <mako> long enough than they're are not about to wake up and too long that they will just come back
[07:44] <mako> so...
[07:44] <mako> if people have issues they want to bring up, we can do a sort of mock meeting
[07:44] <mako> although we can't vote
[07:44] <mako> since it would be the mako council then
[07:44] <mako> which, as much as i would like, seems a bit off :)
[07:45] <mako> and we'll reschedule for sometime in the next few days
[07:45] <tritium> for one thing, bob2 is not here to discuss ops for #ubuntu
[07:45] <coastGNU> mako: issues, shure I have :-)
[07:45] <mako> so, are most people interested in the IRC stuff?
[07:45] <mako> the #ubuntu operator stuff
[07:45] <diamond> mako: i'm here for the free sandwiches. oh, and membership ,-)
[07:45] <diamond> (which obviously is off the cards this morning)
[07:45] <mako> diamond: i was just about to cook something
[07:46] <tritium> membership and irc
[07:47] <mako> who is here for membership?
[07:47] <tritium> mako, I, for one
[07:47] <schweeb> me too
[07:47] <robitaille> and me
[07:47] <schweeb> mako: if you look at the agenda, there should be like 20 of us here for membership ;)
[07:48] <dredg> mako: sent you an sms (apologies if you got it more than once)
[07:48] <mako> alright.. well i can go through the list of candidates and give you my impressions on the wiki pages 
[07:48] <dholbach> schweeb: 10 of them are here :-)
[07:48] <tritium> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[07:48] <mako> it's all not-binding but if there is still to do, best to know before the real meeting
[07:48] <dredg> mako: if you got it at all...
[07:49] <diamond> mako: ah. that would be helpful, cheers.
[07:49] <mako> alright
[07:49] <mako> MartinEricRacine ? 
[07:49] <mako> Hiweed?
[07:50] <mako> (both were on older agendas and were asked to fill out their wik pages)
[07:50] <mako> schweeb: next, yes?
[07:50] <dholbach> should be removed from the agenda, if they REALLY mean it, they can add themselves back to it... same should go for MaintainerCandidates (*mess*)
[07:50] <schweeb> mako: yep
[07:50] <mako> dholbach: i tend to agree
[07:51] <mako> dholbach: ogra did some work on that. i thin kthe ball is in my court now
[07:51] <dholbach> they will understand its no offense
[07:51] <mako> schweeb: cool, you're doing motu stuff, and another detroit loco guy?
[07:51] <schweeb> yep, done a few packages, got gsf-sharp added as NEW
[07:51] <mako> detroit is ubuntu central
[07:52] <schweeb> yep
[07:52] <mako> dholbach: he worked with you?
[07:52] <dholbach> yes, he did good work
[07:52] <mako> schweeb: cool, i don't forsee any controversy :)
[07:53] <schweeb> alrighty then
[07:53] <schweeb> :)
[07:53] <mako> schweeb: thanks for you work dude :)
[07:53] <schweeb> yw
[07:53] <schweeb> :)
[07:53] <mako> ReinhardTartler?
[07:53] <dholbach> :-)
[07:53] <dholbach> siretart: ping
[07:54] <mako> looks like you have a ton of motu packages
[07:54] <siretart> ah yes
[07:54] <siretart> I'm there, im here :)
[07:54] <crimsun> yep, he's quite active in MOTU
[07:54] <siretart> yes, the list are the packages I had a look at and fixed the FTBFSes
[07:55] <siretart> mostly
[07:55] <mako> wow, sounds good
[07:55] <mako> siretart: nice wiki page also :)
[07:55] <mako> makes your work on the project very clear
[07:55] <siretart> mako: thanks :)
[07:55] <mako> siretart: cool, i don't forsee membership being controversial :)
[07:55] <siretart> hooray! :)
[07:56] <mako> siretart: don't get too excited.. it's not official yet ;)
[07:56] <mako> ThomasHood 
[07:56] <mako> ?
[07:56] <dredg> he fled
[07:56] <aj> went to bed
[07:56] <crimsun> jdthood of Debian fame, shouldn't have an issues becoming a member
[07:56] <crimsun> any^
[07:57] <mako> i know thomas from debian
[07:57] <crimsun> yep, his ALSA work speaks for itself
[07:57] <mako> LorenzoHernandezGarciaHierro ?
[07:57] <ajmitch_> trulux - working on SELinux & other stuff
[07:57] <schweeb> ajmitch_: lol
[07:58] <Amaranth> he is the one posting Hardened Ubuntu messages to the -devel list
[07:58] <ajmitch_> he's done some good contributions for selinux that will hopefully get pushed for breezy - also libssp
[07:58] <mako> right, i see he seems to be most of the energy behind hardened ubuntu
[07:58] <mako> and debian for that matter
[07:58] <ajmitch_> yep
[07:58] <mako> do we know his nick?
[07:58] <ajmitch_> trulux
[07:59] <mako> that's trulux?
[07:59] <ajmitch_> yes
[07:59] <mako> ahh, ok
[07:59] <mako> i know him
[07:59] <ajmitch_> :)
[07:59] <mako> i irc with him all the time :)
[07:59] <mako> killer!
[07:59] <mako> alright, we canm deal with that when he resurfaces
[07:59] <tritium> trulux is quite bright.  I chat with him often
[07:59] <ajmitch_> great
[08:00] <mako> i'm mostly wanting to talk to the people who *are* here
[08:00] <dredg> meh, i irc with batman. he'd kick both your asses. ors...
[08:00] <mako> to make a list of that
[08:00] <mako> StephenShirley
[08:00] <mako> ?
[08:00] <dredg> that's diamond
[08:00] <diamond> mako: yo
[08:00] <mako> diamond: you are here
[08:00] <mako> hot motu action, no?
[08:00] <dholbach> he's a ROCKing MOTU candidate as well
[08:01] <diamond> mako: as best as i could in time for the release. i plan on being slightly saner in future, pick some packages, maintain them. etc
[08:01] <ajmitch_> plenty of MOTU candidates around
[08:01] <mako> ajmitch_: definitely, it's great to see
[08:01] <mako> diamond: cool, well thanks for the late release push.. it's extremely appreciated
[08:01] <diamond> mako: thanks for the release -)
[08:02] <diamond> lol
[08:02] <mako> diamond: what other stuff are you interested in doing?
[08:02] <diamond> mako: i'm a c and python guy. i'm happy maintaining or devel, whatever needs to be done really
[08:03] <mako> diamond: killer.. i guess you'll find your niche with time :) but thanks for helping out in general :)
[08:03] <schweeb> diamond: python?  I have something you may be able to help with :)
[08:03] <mako> AlessioFattorini ?
[08:03] <mako> Alessio ?
[08:04] <diamond> schweeb: i'm happy to help if i can
[08:04] <mako> i certainly know alessio from his work on the italian loco
[08:04] <Amaranth> Alessio has been idle for an hour
[08:04] <Amaranth> I think he went to bed.
[08:04] <mako> alright.. well.. i'll mark down that he showed up
[08:05] <schweeb> diamond: Xen userspace tools... I was working on packaging them, but dropped cause of proximity to release...  according to fabbione they may not work with python2.4, so may need some python reworkage
[08:05] <mako> i'm already familiar with his work
[08:05] <Amaranth> he away message translates to "I am sleeping" :)
[08:05] <mako> Simone Gotti ?
[08:05] <dholbach> motaboy, brought some KDE love in
[08:05] <dholbach> worked with him and his packages weren't bad at all
[08:05] <diamond> schweeb: i'm not an expert, but that sounds very interesting
[08:05] <mako> does anyone know simone's nick?
[08:05] <Amaranth> motaboy hasn't been online in 7 hours
[08:06] <crimsun> motaboy, mako 
[08:06] <dredg> right, i need a couple hourss sleep before i start work. nightol.
[08:06] <mako> dredg: thanks for showing up
[08:06] <crimsun> night, dredg 
[08:06] <dholbach> sleep tight, dredg 
[08:06] <tritium> night, dredg
[08:06] <mako> JohnDong ?
[08:06] <dredg> cheers folks.
[08:07] <schweeb> yea, I'm actually tired at 2am for once, amazing
[08:07] <mako> jdong...
[08:07] <mako> spends 4 hours/day on the forums
[08:07] <Amaranth> heh
[08:07] <mako> wow
[08:07] <mako> that's pretty intense
[08:07] <schweeb> daamn
[08:07] <ajmitch_> impressive
[08:08] <mako> anyway, i think that counts as a major contribution :)
[08:08] <mako> JonDodson?
[08:08] <mako> we've emailed
[08:08] <Amaranth> Their wikipages should say their irc nicks. :P
[08:09] <Amaranth> You should point that out for the people that get dropped.
[08:09] <mako> Amaranth: would be nice :)
[08:09] <mako> dropped?
[08:09] <mako> Kassetra ?
[08:09] <Amaranth> dropped from the list, dholbach was saying something about that
[08:09] <dholbach> what?
[08:09] <mako> Amaranth: only the first two people who have not improved their wiki page over several weeks
[08:09] <schweeb> Amaranth: only the 2 that had missed multiple meetings
[08:10] <mako> Amaranth: we're just taking them off temporarily so we don't have to skip them each meeting
[08:10] <Amaranth> ah
[08:10] <mako> Kassetra is another major forums contributor it seems
[08:10] <Amaranth> you should add a note to the minutes then or something
[08:10] <dholbach> or add a to-be-revisited section on the wiki page
[08:10] <mako> i'm gonna be pleased to recognize those contirbutions
[08:10] <mako> alright.. into more familiar territory: DanielRobitaille
[08:10] <robitaille> here
[08:11] <mako> robitaille: hello sir
[08:11] <mako> robitaille: nice wiki page dude
[08:11] <robitaille> thanks
[08:11] <siretart> Amaranth: done :)
[08:11] <robitaille> I tried to be complete :)
[08:11] <Amaranth> siretart: ?
[08:11] <mako> robitaille: i think you've made the council's job pretty easy
[08:11] <siretart> Amaranth: my wikipage has now my irc nick ;)
[08:11] <mako> robitaille: you worked with anyone else who you think could vouche for you?
[08:11] <Amaranth> ah, nice
[08:12] <robitaille> thom was supposed to vouch for me
[08:12] <robitaille> not sure if he is around
[08:12] <mako> robitaille: i'm sure he's asleep
[08:12] <diamond> robitaille: impressive wiki page
[08:12] <tritium> actually, I think he's active in #ubuntu-devel
[08:12] <mako> diamond: seriously, yeah? :)
[08:12] <dholbach> he's pm #ubuntu-devel
[08:12] <dholbach> s/pm/on
[08:12] <mako> ok..
[08:13] <mako> i was like "prime minister?"
[08:13] <mako> damnit! i'm prime minister!
[08:13] <diamond> mako: seriously. it's a bit intimadating -)
[08:13] <mako> ;)
[08:13] <mako> robitaille: cool dude, great example page for other people
[08:13] <mako> robitaille: thanks for the continued work
[08:14] <mako> travis newman is around?
[08:14] <mako> panickedthumb, yes?
[08:14] <thom> eh, sorry dudes
[08:14] <robitaille> you're welcome
[08:14] <mako> thom: aren'y you supposed to be asleep?
[08:14] <thom> mako: i'm downunder already
[08:14] <dholbach> thom: woohoo! :-)
[08:15] <mako> thom: see you sunday
[08:15] <thom> mako: indeed :-) 
[08:15] <dholbach> monday :-)
[08:15] <thom> so yes, robitaille has been a huge help triaging firefox bugs; definitely should be a member
[08:15] <Amaranth> So, is ubu where sabdfl gets to whip you all into coding way too much stuff? :)
[08:16] <diamond> Amaranth: -)
[08:16] <thom> Amaranth: it's looking remarkably like that
[08:16] <mako> Amaranth: apparently not.. it's where we do meetings until we drop and then go home and have to do all the things we said would we would
[08:16] <schweeb> either that, or it's just an excuse for nerds to sit on the beach getting drunk in .au ;)
[08:16] <mako> schweeb: i think there's little risk of that
[08:16] <schweeb> lol
[08:17] <thom> mako: like Amaranth says - the whipping will happen at UDU, the coding after
[08:17] <mako> thom: true enough :)
[08:17] <mako> MichaelRimbert ?
[08:17] <crimsun> (tritium)
[08:17] <dholbach> tritium: here you go :-)
[08:18] <tritium> mako, here :)
[08:18] <crimsun> tritium has already been approved by the TB
[08:18] <dholbach> made a MOTU yesterday, needs membership before
[08:18] <mako> tritium: great.. i don't think it will be a problem
[08:18] <tritium> super!
[08:18] <mako> tritium: thanks for you work, and for calling me
[08:18] <tritium> no problem :)
[08:18] <mako> so.. 
[08:19] <dredg> mako: i take it that you didn't get the SMS's i sent then.
[08:19] <mako> i'm going to try to corner elmo and kamion tomorrow
[08:19] <dredg> cruddy irish tat
[08:19] <diamond> dredg: aren't you asleep already?
[08:19] <mako> dredg: did you send email or proper sms?
[08:19] <dredg> mako: proper sms
[08:19] <mako> dredg: hmm.. i send and recieve those internationally all the time.. 
[08:19] <dredg> mako: yeah, i blame my provider
[08:20] <crimsun> it'll probably arrive when you're downunder
[08:20] <dredg> mako: meh, someone got hold of you which is the important thing
[08:20] <dholbach> when will next meeting be?
[08:20] <mako> dholbach: not sure.. asap
[08:20] <dholbach> will the semi-approved guys be notified somehow or will they have to show up next time as well?
[08:20] <dredg> diamond: no, seems the 35mins i got earlier has broken me
[08:21] <diamond> dredg: ug
[08:22] <dredg> diamond: *shrug*
[08:22] <schweeb> does it matter if I show up for the next meeting, since my wiki page is fine?  It's likely it'll be scheduled while I'm unavailable (which is now 75% of the day)
[08:22] <schweeb> stupid work... blocking IM and IRC now. grr.
[08:22] <tritium> schweeb, mine too...
[08:23] <robitaille> same here... 
[08:23] <schweeb> I'll be working at DaimlerChrysler starting the 29th... I'm sure they've got all kinds of big brother stuff if I even attempt to do something out of line
[08:23] <dredg> heh, i'm the network admin. i control all that stuff here :)
[08:23] <siretart> dredg: definitly an advantage ;)
[08:23] <schweeb> dredg: I used to be...  now I'm in charge of everything except the firewall
[08:23] <tritium> I just hope the next meeting isn't Friday night, as I'll be at the U2 concert :)
[08:24] <dredg> schweeb: ah, i'm in charge of writing policy as well :)
[08:24] <schweeb> convenient
[08:24] <schweeb> heh
[08:24] <dredg> yeah, just a bit ;)
[08:25] <schweeb> I can't really f around with the new job, it's a contract, so they don't need any reason to fire :-/
[08:25] <schweeb> but, it's for a quite pleasurable sum of money per hour
[08:26] <dredg> right, i'm going to read for an hour or so
[08:26] <dredg> ttyl
[08:26] <schweeb> night
[08:26] <schweeb> I'm goin to sleep too
[08:26] <schweeb> later
[08:26] <mako> me too
[08:27] <mako> thanks everyone!
[08:27] <dredg> night mako 
[08:27] <tritium> Thanks mako
[08:27] <diamond> sleeeep
[08:27] <siretart> night schweeb and mako!
[08:28] <dholbach> erm did we have a decision on a date?
[08:28] <tritium> mako, let me know if you need a wakeup call ;)
[08:28] <dholbach> and the re-showing-up?
[08:28] <dredg> mako: let me know if you don't need a wakeup call but want someone to sms you anyway
[08:32] <mako> dredg: np dude ;)
[08:33] <tritium> mako, do you still plan to announce a meeting on ubuntu-news?
[08:36] <tritium> no worries - I'll keep an eye out for the next meeting.  Good night...
[02:45] <Kamion> garrr, sorry I missed the meeting, after lurking in the technical board meeting I totally forgot that there was a CC meeting this week AS WELL
[05:33] <jdthood> Was there a meeting?  I gave up waiting for it to start at 04:30.
[05:33] <aj> jdthood: only kind of; mako did a quick review of applicants to see if anyone obviously needed to do more stuff
[05:36] <mako> jdthood: cool, you were there?
[05:36] <jdthood> I went back to bed at 04:30.
[05:36] <ogra> mako, we all were there.... ;)
[05:36] <aj> mako: hey, i hear you're maybe taking the same flight from bne to cbr as me!
[05:37] <mako> aj: morning of the 17th?
[05:37] <aj> mako: yeah, qantas
[05:37] <mako> we're on the same flight.. :)
[05:37] <aj> mako: (i'm sure there were more than one, but Caesar says you're arriving at the same time too :)
[05:38] <mako> yeah, 10somethingish
[05:38] <aj> yup
[05:38] <jdthood> mako: Are there meeting minutes or an IRC log?
[05:38] <mako> there is certainly a log
[05:38] <dholbach> people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[05:38] <mako> no minutes yet.. i haven't decided if i'm going to make them.. it was really a proper meeting
[05:51] <mako> aj: that cool.. then we'll meet at the airport for sure
[05:51] <mako> i'll be mostly dead by then
[06:02] <jdthood> Is there a members list for ubuntu somewhere?  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuMembers only lists five names.
[06:06] <dholbach> jdthood: 6 now ;-)
[06:10] <Kamion> jdthood: last I checked mako's been keeping a separate list; I thought it was on his list to update that
[06:11] <Kamion> (or obsolete it)
[06:12] <mako> jdthood: there is a seperate list in a gpg signed text file
[06:12] <mako> jdthood: i will publish it
[06:21] <trulux> heya