| Kamion | oh, btw, Kubuntu Hoary DVDs published some time ago | 12:02 |
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| Kamion | (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/hoary/release/) | 12:02 |
| Kamion | just torrents, as previously mentioned | 12:02 |
| cartel_ | guys has anyone run into kwallet shattering dcop stack | 12:11 |
| cartel_ | my kde is so fubar now | 12:12 |
| cartel_ | i dont know how to fix it | 12:12 |
| cartel_ | ok interesting, a development | 12:19 |
| cartel_ | killall -9 kded and restart kded unfucked the environment | 12:19 |
| allee | cartel_: logout/in still have the problem? --> check ~/.xsession-error ask on #kubuntu if you can't interpret it ;) | 12:36 |
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| CygnusX1 | Hello. I am trying to install kubuntu 5.04 on an Asus A7N8X-DEL (nforce2/sil3112SATA). My iso checksum is good, CD file checksum is good. Install fails trying to mount CD-ROM for packages. In debug I see: Missing module 'ide-mod' ide-probe-mod ide-detect and ide-floppy. | 03:14 |
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| CygnusX1 | I have used three different optical drives. | 03:14 |
| CygnusX1 | I just manually mounted the CD from within installer and the check cdrom integ option is running well. However, install will not go forward like this. | 03:15 |
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| CygnusX1 | Oh...there we go. I forgot to read the part in the manual that said to break out into a virtual terminal, mount the CD-ROM, Check integrity, THEN the install works. Thank you guys anyway! | 03:32 |
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| froud | question for Kubuntu User Manual. What is the recomended Spec on PC to run Kubuntu (Processor, RAM, DiskSpace etc) | 07:59 |
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| amu | * Pentium II+, 266 MHz oder hher, oder jeder AMD64- bzw. Intel EM64T-Prozessor | 09:40 |
| amu | * 1 2 physikalische CPUs | 09:40 |
| amu | * Mindestens 128 MB (256 MB empfohlen, 64 GB maximal) physikalisches RAM | 09:40 |
| amu | * 800 MB freier Festplattenplatz | 09:40 |
| amu | * 8 TB maximaler Festplattenplatz | 09:40 |
| amu | * 800 x 600 oder hhere Bildschirmauflsung; 1024 x 768 oder hher empfohlen | 09:40 |
| amu | s/EM64T/PowerPC | 09:41 |
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| froud-work | amu: thanks. good thing i can sepak some german :-) | 02:17 |
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| Riddell | allee: do you know where kapture is in CVS? | 04:35 |
| allee | Riddell: kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture I'm not sure if it's currently alpha or beta | 04:36 |
| allee | Riddell: ask mornfall on #kalyxo he's the developer. Have not seen a commit since quite some time. | 04:37 |
| allee | Riddell: some month ago it was impressing but not mature enough for general usage | 04:38 |
| Riddell | allee: richt, thanks | 04:38 |
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| dannya | Riddell: you should do a dot story about the award that mattias ettrich has won... | 04:54 |
| Riddell | dannya: feel free to submit one | 04:56 |
| dannya | hehe | 04:56 |
| Riddell | or get Martin Konold to do it, he was there | 04:56 |
| dannya | well, I guess it would be a bit low on information... | 04:56 |
| dannya | "mattias ettrich wins *bla* award - that is all" | 04:57 |
| dannya | :) | 04:57 |
| dannya | Riddell: did I hear something about kubuntu having KDE CVS snapshots sometime in the future? | 04:57 |
| Riddell | also it was won jointly with a certain former KDE developer so that would need to be handled correctly | 04:57 |
| dannya | hehe | 04:58 |
| dannya | well, someone announced it on planet.gnome.org... | 04:58 |
| Riddell | dannya: I'd like to do KDE CVS .debs, dunno if it'll happen | 04:58 |
| dannya | well, it certainly would be great | 04:58 |
| dannya | fortnightly would be enough... | 04:58 |
| Riddell | kubuntu needs a source code repository | 05:00 |
| dannya | yep | 05:01 |
| Riddell | well, a repository, for debian/ directories and the website and things | 05:02 |
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| JRe | hello | 05:31 |
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| JRe | :) | 05:37 |
| JRe | thanks alls for your good works on kubuntu | 05:37 |
| dannya | Riddell: where are the crystal action icons located in CVS? | 05:47 |
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| dannya | Riddell: where are the crystal action icons located in CVS? | 06:03 |
| Riddell | dannya: kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg | 06:04 |
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| dannya | Riddell: I scraped by... :) | 06:05 |
| JRe | :) | 06:06 |
| dannya | Riddell: kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg/svgz-action-text_italic.svgz is incorrectly named, right? | 06:09 |
| Riddell | dannya: certinaly is | 06:11 |
| Riddell | hmm, Frank, hmm | 06:11 |
| Riddell | dannya: feel free to fix it | 06:11 |
| dannya | yay! I win! :) | 06:11 |
| dannya | Riddell: ok | 06:11 |
| dannya | Riddell: what do you think to changing some names in crystal/filesystems? | 06:20 |
| dannya | Riddell: to standardise them... | 06:20 |
| Riddell | dannya: names can't be changed | 06:20 |
| dannya | Riddell: why is that? | 06:20 |
| Riddell | dannya: because they're part of the API so need to be fixed until KDE 4 | 06:21 |
| dannya | Riddell: there is naming clashes... | 06:21 |
| Riddell | dannya: how do you mean? | 06:22 |
| dannya | Riddell: also, these particular icons are only referenced in the .theme file... | 06:22 |
| dannya | Riddell: see filesys/zip and mimetypes/zip | 06:22 |
| Riddell | hmm, nasty | 06:22 |
| dannya | you see it? | 06:22 |
| Riddell | yes, although I've never noticed it causing a problem | 06:23 |
| dannya | I propose that, in filesys, all the 3 overlay images (link, lock and zip) are renamed *_overlay | 06:23 |
| dannya | Riddell: I have :) | 06:23 |
| dannya | Riddell: the filesys/zip icon is only referenced in the .theme file, right? | 06:24 |
| Riddell | probably | 06:25 |
| dannya | so, no impact to changing them, right? | 06:25 |
| dannya | we cannot change the mimetypes naming, but, these ones can be... | 06:26 |
| Riddell | dannya: hmm, I would check it with kwwii or tackat first | 06:27 |
| dannya | yep | 06:27 |
| dannya | kwwii has been away 19 hours... | 06:28 |
| dannya | Riddell: what is happening with crystal in the future? is a totally new set being made? | 06:32 |
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| AMIGrAve | hi all | 08:04 |
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| AMIGrAve | what do you think if we communicate to all developpers of linux apps to use ~/.etc/ folder to write the configuration files instead of ~/ ? The goal would be that if the folder ~/.etc/ does exists it is used, if not ~/ is used. So let's say that in some years linux users will have a clean home folder ?? Am I utopist / ridiculous / funny ? | 08:14 |
| Kamion | ~/.etc/ just makes us gratuitously incompatible with the rest of Unix for no sufficiently good reason. lots of people share home directories between Linux and other Unix systems | 08:18 |
| Kamion | if you want a clean home folder, don't look at dotfiles | 08:18 |
| AMIGrAve | Kamion: if a user do not create the ~/.etc/ folder it is not used, so you would have the choice | 08:20 |
| Kamion | so more complicated code in every application. yay. | 08:20 |
| AMIGrAve | Kamion: and I hate hiding dot files. I don't like the idea of having files in folders. But having all these dot files in my home makes me crazy too | 08:21 |
| Kamion | chill :) | 08:21 |
| Kamion | and something that assumes nothing will ever automatically create ~/.etc/ is wishful thinking; some day some broken application would, and then suddenly your configuration files would go insane | 08:22 |
| Kamion | or some application would *only* accept ~/.etc/ and you'd have no choice | 08:23 |
| AMIGrAve | no, the goal it that progressively applications checks if the ~/.etc/ folder exists. The goal is not that application use only ~/.etc/ | 08:26 |
| AMIGrAve | for people who does not create the ~/.etc/ folder it won't change anything | 08:26 |
| AMIGrAve | for people who create it, they will have a mix between config files in ~/ and in ~/.etc/ until all applications support this feature, then when the time will come, they'll have all config in ~/.etc/ | 08:27 |
| Kamion | goals are nice, but you're assuming that a huge range of disparate programmers with no overriding authority will respect some goal you lay out | 08:27 |
| Kamion | they won't | 08:27 |
| Kamion | s/some goal/some policy/ | 08:27 |
| AMIGrAve | who won't ? | 08:27 |
| AMIGrAve | sorry didn't read prevoious message | 08:28 |
| Kamion | it just doesn't work | 08:28 |
| Kamion | people suggest this about once a month, btw | 08:29 |
| AMIGrAve | well if an effort is made at system level, any goal can be reached. If a standard function or watherver is defined for using config files, this function could be hooked for using another folder than the default one | 08:29 |
| Kamion | in various places | 08:29 |
| AMIGrAve | Kamion: oh ! so I'm not the only one to be annoyed by all these dot files in home ;-) | 08:30 |
| Kamion | I'm afraid that's hopelessly wishful thinking, sorry. Since that function would not be portable to other Unix systems, you'll never get everyone to use it. | 08:30 |
| Kamion | I'd probably go so far as to say you'd only get a very few people to use it (#ifdefs are annoying) | 08:30 |
| amu | AMIGrAve: the better solution is kioskmode, i'm not happy atm how it's implemteted atm | 08:33 |
| AMIGrAve | Kamion: mhh yeah right | 08:37 |
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| uniq | anyone tried to dist-upgrade to breezy yet? | 10:15 |
| amu | yep | 10:36 |
| uniq | any problems? | 10:39 |
| amu | yeah a missing g++ :) | 10:42 |
| uniq | well, won't the old one from hoary remain? :) | 10:42 |
| uniq | i can make a new chroot for hoary.. if i need to compile anything :) | 10:43 |
| amu | it will be 4.0 | 10:43 |
| uniq | I've figured.. started the dist-upgrade now. | 10:44 |
| amu | some gnome apps are new, that's all, there was a big merge comming from universe. | 10:45 |
| uniq | k.. the "import * from debian" is done? | 10:45 |
| amu | my sys already works, except some reported python probs | 10:45 |
| amu | hmm probably, i run no universe except some addtion packages for video and sound support *duck* | 10:47 |
| uniq | ok. | 10:48 |
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