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T-Bone_few, past midnight, high time to head home12:10
fabbionesabdfl gave the greenlight for the rh cluster stuff12:12
fabbionegfs & co will be part of the official kernel12:13
fabbionei got the patches in already, but i need to clean them up12:13
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T-Boneand I'm back12:59
T-Bonefeh12:59
T-Bonelamont: machines are all ready, the rest is really up to you now...01:00
lamontT-Bone: cool.  working on taxes tonight/tomorrow night.  Then I'll get the hoary archive all happy, and then we get to bootstrap hppa's breezy into gcc-4.0 toolchain happiness01:12
T-Boneschweet01:13
lamontgiven everything, I expect I'll poke you sometime friday night/saturday ish, but I'll have a better schedule idea come friday morning...01:13
T-Bonebtw, do you know where the ia64 archive lives? I'd like to install/upgrade some machines01:13
T-Boneok fine :)01:13
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lamontT-None: the ia64 archive lives the same place as the sparc archive. :-(02:37
dilingerdamn04:59
dilingerSubject:      [patch 001/198]  mmtimer build fix04:59
dilingerlotta patches..04:59
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zulheylo05:10
zullamont: are you around baz question for you05:18
lamontwell, for you? sure.05:20
lamont:-)05:21
zulcool...i can feel the love05:21
zulok..say that i am starting a new repo and i do all the crap that you usually do05:21
lamontincluding remembering --listing if it's a web-accessible repo05:22
lamontand always --signed05:22
zulso everynight i do a new baz get kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005 blah blah05:22
lamontok. you could just baz update in a tree that is already taht version...05:22
zulbut when i branch zulcss@gmail.com--2005 it looks like it clobers my stuff05:22
lamontclobbers how?05:23
lamontbaz branch is going to create a new branch with the given name...05:23
lamontwhich could overwrite what you've done...05:23
zulah...05:23
lamontyou really want baz switch, and baz merge type stuff05:23
lamontthat is, in a zulcss@... repo, baz merge kernel-team@ubunut.com--2005/kernel....05:24
zulah i see..05:24
zulcool..05:24
zulthat makes sense 05:27
lamontlikewise, after you do a bunch of stuff, then I say 'baz switch kernel-team@...; baz merge zulcss@...'05:39
zulyeah but i dont have sftp access05:40
lamontthat's why I said 'I' :-)05:41
zulheh05:42
fabbionemorning06:09
lamontdid my 'Breezy development discussion' email to kernel-team make it out to everyone?06:24
lamontor was I the only one who got it when I sent it?06:24
kylemi got it...06:24
lamontgood enough06:30
lamontdup elimination, followed by no traffic, can lead to worries...06:31
fabbioneyay06:32
crimsunI got it, will respond06:32
fabbionelamont: readding sparc32 is pretty straighforward06:40
fabbionethe point is that i don't have anyway to test the kernel at all06:40
fabbioneif you can install ubuntu with a debian kernel06:40
fabbionei can readd the kernel and you can test it06:40
fabbioneor give me console access to the machine :)06:41
fabbioneand a netboot setup06:41
lamontyeah - it's not high on my list, atm06:44
fabbioneyeah i can understand that06:45
fabbionedilinger: i am not going to pull in any of the 198 patches from andrew07:20
fabbionethey are all pushed to linus07:20
fabbioneand i am pretty sure linus will merge most of them blindly07:20
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Xgateshey all 09:29
Xgatesanyone in?09:29
XgatesI'm a Slacker compile junkie of 5 years, but was looking for some more ease of use and starting to move away from some of the compiling, but I still love it09:29
XgatesI just compiled a patched source of 2.6.10, and got all the correct hardware compiled in just for my box only so its pretty stripped down like a vanilla kernel09:29
Xgateseverything boots up ok with the kernel, but at the login prompt the keyboard is dead and for the life of me for the past 3 days I cant figure why the keyboard is not working09:29
Xgatesit's just a PS/2 and I have it compiled in as --> [*]  Keyboards  <M>   AT keyboard support09:29
Xgateswhat heck might there be that Ubuntu wants to get this thing going?09:29
fabbioneXgates: if you compile your own packages, you need to get the config right09:30
fabbioneotherwise just use the normal packages09:30
Xgatesthe config is right09:30
Xgatesthats the thing09:30
Xgates[*]  Keyboards  <M>   AT keyboard support is al you need to run a PS/2 keyboard in Linux09:30
fabbioneXgates: if your keyboard doesn't work, the config is not right :)09:30
fabbionedid you build the initrd?09:31
fabbionenote that it is a module09:31
Xgatesanything beyond that is not normal Linux as a Vanilla kernel goes09:31
fabbioneit needs to be loaded09:31
XgatesI have built it with and without09:31
Xgatessorry what as a mofule?09:31
Xgatesmodule?09:31
Xgates initrd?09:31
fabbione[*]  Keyboards  <M>09:32
fabbioneeither you load the module or you create the initrd09:32
fabbionethe ubuntu kernel as it is needs an initrd09:32
Xgatesok right now I did not compile in ramdisk, initrd09:32
fabbioneotherwise change M to Y09:32
XgatesI mean you should be able to run Ubuntu with out them09:32
fabbioneno09:32
fabbioneubuntu can run without09:33
fabbionebut than you need to compile your kernel properly09:33
Xgatesno and what?09:33
fabbioneas i said your config is wrong09:33
Xgates[*]  Keyboards  <M>   AT keyboard support works in a kernel without initrd09:33
Xgatesare you saying it does not in Linux?09:33
fabbioneXgates: M -> module09:33
Xgatesbecause I have been doing it this way in Slackware for 5 years just fine09:33
fabbioneif you don't load the module09:34
fabbioneyou don't get the keyboard09:34
Xgatessorry what module?09:34
fabbionethe keyboard module09:34
Xgates[*]  Keyboards 09:34
XgatesOR09:34
fabbionethe one that makes the keyboard working09:34
Xgates AT keyboard support ?09:34
fabbioneAT keyboard support09:34
XgatesI did have it as a Module <M> and compiled in <*>09:35
Xgatesand both ways the keyboard would not work09:35
fabbioneXgates: does the keyboard work with the shipped kernel?09:35
Xgatesyes thats the thing09:35
Xgatesand I have compiled in all the main things that Ubuntu should need09:35
fabbioneXgates: than there must be some other options that needs to be changed from M to *09:35
XgatesI compiled them the same way09:35
XgatesFS support, ramdisk, etc...09:35
Xgatesal same09:35
Xgatesall....09:36
fabbioneXgates: well.. there must be a mistake than...09:37
Xgatesthats the thing there is really nothing here that should effect the keyboard09:37
fabbioneit's obvious :)09:37
Xgatesyea sure but it's nothing to do with normal keyboard support in any other Linux distro09:37
Xgatesa kernel in Slackware is a Kernel in Debian as in Gentoo, etc...09:38
fabbioneXgates: our kernel is no different in that respect09:38
Xgatesthe only time something isnt going to work is because of something comfigure different into the distro,09:38
Xgatesconfigured....09:38
Xgatessorry I dont mean that Ubuntus kernel is different09:39
XgatesI mean Ubuntu is09:39
fabbioneXgates: the way Ubuntu kernel is managed is exactly the same as Debian09:39
fabbioneso if Debian works Ubuntu does and so on...09:40
Xgatesyes but not like Slackware09:40
fabbionewell we are different distros09:40
fabbionethere are differences09:40
XgatesI have the exact same 100% settings in this kernel as it as been in Slackware for the past 3 years and now I cant get it to work in Ubuntu09:40
fabbionewe use an initrd boot system09:40
fabbionei don't know about slack09:40
Xgatesyes thats what I mean09:40
Xgatesand running udev, etc.. which isnt the Slackware norm09:41
Xgatesthese things make things like what Im encountering as the problem09:41
Xgateslearning the distro quirks as I call them09:41
fabbioneXgates: if we were all using the same, there would be no reason for Slack or ubuntu or debian to exists09:42
fabbioneeach distro is unique in its desig09:42
fabbionedesign even09:42
fabbione+ i would really suggest you to use the standard kernel09:42
fabbionethere is really no reason to recompile it09:42
Xgatesfabbione: right now I dont have ram, initrd support in it --> < > RAM disk support 09:43
Xgatesunless Ubuntu has a hard time without it09:43
fabbioneXgates: again.. if you remove that options you need to make sure to compile the kernel properly.09:44
Xgatesyes I have09:44
fabbioneotherwise enable them and use initrd09:44
Xgatesbeen doing it 5 years just fine until I started using Ubuntu09:44
Xgateshehe09:44
Xgatesfabbione: would you be so kind to look at this .config and see if you see anything besides my hardware setup and the basic kernel setups IF there might be something that Ubuntu is going to be looking for09:45
fabbioneXgates: put it somewhere, but a) i won't have time to compile and build b) i dunno when09:46
XgatesI dont need you to compile it09:47
Xgateshehe09:47
XgatesI just want you to look at it is all if you dont mind and see if you notice anything that Ubuntu needs that I missed09:47
Xgatesbecause I did not miss the correct settings for the kernel or my hardware09:48
Xgatesthis is the same box I've been running for 3 years and compiling on it 3 years with the same kernel settings09:48
Xgatesone sec let me upload it09:48
Xgatesfabbione: http://www.patientswithouttime.com/2.6.1009:52
fabbioneCONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD=m09:54
fabbionethis needs to be y09:54
Xgatesfabbione: you mean -->  <M>   AT keyboard support09:55
Xgatesif so I had it compiled in <*> before09:56
Xgatesand still didnt work09:56
Xgatesbut then again I might of had ram and initrd with it too09:56
XgatesI forget now09:56
fabbioneCONFIG_SERIO_PCIPS2=m09:56
fabbioneCONFIG_SERIO_I8042=m09:57
fabbioneall these stuff must be yes09:57
fabbioneconfig SERIO_I804209:57
fabbione        tristate "i8042 PC Keyboard controller"09:57
Xgateswel I was just dorking with those BUt I dont need those I have a PS/209:57
Xgateswel/well....09:57
fabbioneconfig SERIO_RAW09:58
fabbione        tristate "Raw access to serio ports"09:58
fabbione        help09:58
fabbionethis one too09:58
fabbioneyes you do09:58
fabbioneread the help09:58
Xgatesok my bad -->  <*> i8042 PC Keyboard controller10:00
Xgatesok well why does Ubuntu need these compiled in, and why wont it take them as <M> ?10:00
fabbioneXgates: as i explain to you before10:00
fabbionethe initrd stuff takes care of loading them when needed10:01
fabbioneso if you customize your config you need to change it properly10:01
Xgatesok so in a initrd distro like Ubuntu, Debian, if you compile in ramdisk, initrd then Mods are ok BUT if you dont use them then you need to compile in <*> these for the support, keyboard, etc...?10:02
Xgatesthen I need to do the same for the mouse yea -->  <M>   PS/2 mouse 10:02
Xgateschange to <*>10:02
Xgatesman Im not use to using a initrd system10:02
fabbioneXgates: that is correct10:02
Xgateshehe in Slack as a <m> is just fine10:02
Xgatesahh ic ok THANKS 10:02
Xgatessheesh10:03
Xgateshehe :-)10:03
XgatesI've run Debian but thats when I was starting out in Linux so for me the past 5 years have been in Slackware10:03
XgatesI never got into initrd systems so I understand them somewhat but didnt know this about them with the kernel ;-)10:04
Xgatesbut what are we saying NOTHING can be compiled as a <m>?10:05
Xgateswhat about this --> <M> Normal floppy disk support 10:05
Xgatesboy this initrd thing is confusing me10:05
Xgateshehe10:05
XgatesI mean IF you want to use things as a module for anything then you have to use the ramdisk, initrd in Ubuntu10:05
Xgatesso in a nutshesll not ramdisk, initrd support then NO modules at all?10:06
Xgatesnutshell.....10:06
Xgateserrr not/no ram ......10:06
fabbioneyou can still use modules, but you need ensure that all the stuff you need to boot your machine is compiled in or loaded via /etc/modules10:08
Xgatesok yeah Slacks the same in that respect10:08
fabbioneXgates: that's the same everywhere :)10:08
fabbioneit's just how the kernel works10:09
fabbionesome distros use one approach10:09
fabbioneothers the other :)10:09
Xgatesyes I know :-)10:09
Xgatesahh /etc/modules is like SO different then in Slack10:09
Xgateshaha10:09
Xgatessheesh just add in the name10:09
Xgateshehe10:09
Xgatesso I guess just put in --> floppy10:10
Xgates:_)10:10
Xgates:-)10:10
Xgatesman I tell ya moving around from distro to distro can be confusing learning the ways in which the DEV made a distro, it's tools and quirks10:10
Xgateshehe10:10
fabbionei have been there a few years back10:12
Xgates;p10:12
Xgatescrap10:12
Xgates <M>   VIA chipset support 10:12
Xgatesit doesnt list the mod name10:12
Xgatesso I wouldnt know what name to put in /etc/modules to load it10:13
Xgatescrap10:13
Xgateshmm10:13
Xgatesoh forgot it I'll make sure ram, initrd is compiled in10:13
Xgates:-)10:13
Xgatesfabbione: hey one last one, you make a kernel with 'kernel package' and then install it, it boots and works, so then you remove the default kernel, NOW if you apt-get nvidia-glx will it install it into the /lib/modules path of this kernel you made, also I tried to install nvidia-glx, but then it was looking for the default kernel to install it back in, how do you get around all this?10:17
Xgatesapt-get install nvidia ......10:17
Xgatesbtw THANKS for the help :-)10:18
fabbioneXgates: nvidia-glx is user land10:18
fabbioneyou will have to recompile the kernel module10:18
Xgates user land?10:18
Xgatesrecompile the kernel module what ya mean?10:19
fabbioneXgates: please ask these questions in #ubuntu10:19
fabbionea lot of people knows how to do that10:19
fabbioneand i am kinda busy to explain these concepts10:19
Xgateshehe well since I'm working on a Kernel thats why I asked there10:19
fabbionenvidia is made of 2 parts10:20
fabbionekernel and userland10:20
Xgatesno I have not been able to get any compile issues like this solved in #ubuntu10:20
fabbioneyes but this isn't really a support channel10:20
fabbionethis is where we discuss the kernel development10:20
Xgatesok well if you can bare with me 5 more mins I'll be gone I really appreciate it10:21
fabbioneanyway i will answer your last question :)10:21
Xgatesok10:21
fabbioneyou need to install nvidia-glx to let X understand you have the binary crap installed10:21
XgatesI have installed and compiled Nvidia on Slackware if this is what your suggesting10:21
fabbionewell than you do exactly the same on Ubuntu10:22
Xgatesok wait backup10:22
fabbioneand don't install nvidia-glx if you use the installed from nvidia10:22
Xgatesnot sure you missed what I said said10:22
fabbioneinstaller even10:22
fabbioneXgates: if you use the nvidia installer from nvidia you don't need to install nvidia-glx package10:22
fabbioneas simple as this10:22
XgatesI mean if I make my own kernel, then rip out the default and THEN want to install nvidia --> apt-get install nvidia-glx it wants to install the default kernel image back that I dont want10:23
fabbioneyes that's why i said don't install nvidia-glx10:23
Xgatesyea sure just thought I'd try to keep it all .deb Ubuntu style 10:23
fabbioneXgates: isntall nvidia-kernel-source10:23
Xgatesahhh10:23
fabbioneand use module assistant to build it10:23
fabbioneor something like that10:23
fabbionethat will provide the bits you need iirc10:24
fabbionei don't play with nvidia10:24
Xgatesok10:24
fabbioneso i simply don't know10:24
Xgatesok thanks10:24
Xgatesfabbione: THANKS alot for the help for this initrd run-down  :-)10:27
fabbionenp10:32
fabbioneUHHAAAAA10:49
fabbione  * Add cluster support from Red Hat:10:49
fabbione    - Add Global Network Block Device (GNDB) support:10:49
fabbione      . Add patch external-drivers-block_gndb.dpatch and10:49
fabbione        external-drivers-block_gndb-fixups.dpatch.10:49
fabbione      . CONFIG_BLK_DEV_GNBD=m for all arches.10:49
fabbionegotta love these CRACK!10:49
fabbioneMithrandir: i am not sure the patch is right12:50
fabbioneit has a couple of extra fields compare to what pci_device_id can take12:50
Mithrandirfabbione: it might be totally wrong, I'm not a kernel hacker. :)12:50
fabbioneoh don't worry.. i am just trying to understand :)12:50
fabbionethere is something weird12:54
fabbione+i2o_block            0x00001044 0x0000a511 0x00001044 0x0000c034 0x00010400 0x0 0000000 0x012:55
fabbionethis entry defines 8 fields after the module name12:55
fabbionebut i have only 7 in the include12:55
fabbioneMithrandir: can you paste me the first line of modules.pcimap please?12:55
Mithrandir# pci module         vendor     device     subvendor  subdevice  class      clas12:57
Mithrandirs_mask driver_data12:57
Mithrandirhm12:57
fabbioneoh i seee..12:57
Mithrandirmight be a paste error:12:57
Mithrandiri2o_block            0x00001044 0x0000a511 0x00001044 0x0000c034 0x00010400 0x00000000 0x012:57
Mithrandiris the line12:57
fabbioneah12:57
Mithrandirsorry, mea culpa12:57
fabbioneno problem :)12:58
Mithrandirso it's probably a 0, too much in my patch12:58
fabbionenot only.. i need to understand the meaning of 0x00010400 and why 0x00001044 0x0000c034 in 3rd and 4th entry01:00
fabbionePCI_ANY should give 0xffffffff01:00
MithrandirI think those can just be masked out01:00
Mithrandiryes, but I changed that, since I don't think they should matter.01:00
fabbionecan you try changing the values and see if it works?01:00
Mithrandirso we don't narrow it too much.01:00
fabbioneah ok01:00
Mithrandirsorry that wasn't clear.01:01
fabbioneactually..01:06
fabbionethe fix is not that either01:07
Mithrandiroh?01:09
fabbionecheck drivers/message/i2o/pci.c01:10
fabbioneis the i2o_core module loaded properly?01:10
fabbioneit looks to me like the pci_table entry in pci.c is just wrong01:11
fabbionei can't see any entry of it in pcimap01:12
Mithrandirroot@:~ # lsmod | grep i2o_core01:18
Mithrandiri2o_core               46000  1 i2o_block01:18
Mithrandirthe pcimap was hand-written by jbailey01:18
fabbionethat is correct because i2o_block will pull in i2o_core01:19
fabbionebut it should happen the other way around01:19
fabbionethat i2o_core recognize the pci device01:20
fabbioneand load i2o_block01:20
Mithrandiruhm, isn't core just a support thing?01:20
fabbionei think i have a patch :)01:20
jbaileyMithrandir: Ah, did I get it wrong?  Sorry. =)01:20
fabbionejbailey: not sure.. but it looks strage01:20
Mithrandirjbailey: I don't think so, no, argue with Fabio :)01:20
Mithrandirjbailey: I'm abusing your ia64 a little, since I managed to fuck up the previous upload :(01:21
jbaileyfabbione: I didn't try the case of jus tloading the control and hoping. =)01:21
jbaileyMithrandir: That's fine. =)01:21
MithrandirI guess I'll have to buy bdale some beers.01:21
jbaileyMithrandir: It may as well do something for all the electricity it consumes.01:21
jbaileyfabbione: I'm guessing if we let it auto load the drivers that we may eventually face the same problem we have with ide and scsi, which is that I need a hotplug pass to iterate over the bus.01:23
jbaileyfabbione: If there's an i2o device that needs a driver in the initrd it'll just silently not load.01:24
fabbionejbailey: i think the problem is way different here01:24
fabbionethe pci_table_id in i2o/pci.c is simply broken01:25
jbaileyfabbione: Ah, but that still might be an issue down the road for coldplugging.01:25
fabbionejbailey: if it is broken we fix it :)01:26
jbaileyfabbione: Yes, dear. =)01:26
fabbioneMithrandir: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/drivers-message-i2o-i2oblock.dpatch01:26
fabbionecan you please compile a kernel with that patch?01:26
fabbioneand see if it solves the problem?01:27
fabbionebecause neither PCI_DEVICE_CLASS or PCI_DEVICE fills up the table properly01:27
Mithrandirsure, give me a few minutes01:28
fabbionei have no rush01:29
fabbionei am trying to get DLM to build01:29
fabbionecluster/dlm/nodes.c:280: error: syntax error before '&' token01:29
fabbionestatic void nodes_clear(struct list_head *head)01:29
fabbionei can't see anything obviously wrong here01:29
fabbionebut gcc still errors on it01:29
fabbioneit must be one of these very well hidden typos01:40
Mithrandirour kernel needs TeX to build.01:43
Mithrandiroh well01:43
fabbioneMithrandir: for the documentation...01:44
Mithrandirstill insane01:44
Mithrandir:)01:44
fabbionethat should be changed to Build-Indep01:44
Mithrandirisn't the kernel compile using -j ?01:45
Mithrandirit seems a bit slow here01:45
fabbioneMithrandir: CONCURRENCY_LEVEL01:47
fabbioneeither you export it or uncomment it in debian/rules01:48
Mithrandira tad better, yes.01:48
fabbioneehhe01:51
fabbionebtw.. how are you building?01:51
fabbionedpkg-buildpackage?01:51
Mithrandiryeah01:53
Mithrandirafter removing the variants I'm not building01:53
fabbioneah ok01:53
fabbioneif you call ./debian/rules binary-debs is better01:54
fabbioneit will avoid trying to build the udebs01:54
fabbionethe debs will be in debian/build01:54
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fabbionebah this piece of code is driving me nuts02:00
jbaileyUh oh.  My laptop obviously knows we're going travelling soon...02:19
jbaileyhda: drive not ready for command02:19
jbaileypauses the middle of my bootup.02:19
jbailey*phear*02:19
fabbioneARGHHHHH02:30
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fabbionethere was a name clashing in 2 functions02:31
fabbioneoh never mind02:36
fabbioneops02:37
Mithrandirfabbione: didn't work, it seems02:37
fabbionecrap02:37
fabbioneis there anything in pcimaps related to 0x1044 ?02:38
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zulhey02:46
fabbionehey zul02:46
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zuli have to make sure you guys are not talking shit about me ;)02:46
zulso we are actually using gcc-4 now for breezy?02:47
fabbionezul: for userland they already switched02:48
fabbionei am not sure what we will do for the kernel yet02:48
zuland is the external drivers the latest one?02:49
zuler..most uptodate02:49
fabbionezul: if you have the cluster patches yes02:49
zulok02:50
zulnow to really start getting into it ;)02:50
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zuljbailey: locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory02:51
jbaileyzul: Context?02:52
zulhoary->breezy upgrade02:52
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zuler...not quite back02:52
jbaileySo does it happen the moment you type apt-get, or does it happen every command after you've upgraded or what?02:52
zulapt-get02:53
zuland perl as well02:53
jbaileyWhen you run perl?02:53
zulhold on let me check something02:53
jbaileyecho 'print "hi";' | perl 02:54
jbaileyworks for me.02:54
zulit looks like apt-get 02:54
zulperl scripts run fine02:54
zulchicken little syndrome i guess02:55
jbaileyNo worries.  Just be specific with error messages. =)  02:57
zulyeah02:58
zulsmithers....coffeeeeee03:00
fabbioneMithrandir: i will see if the otherway of patching helps03:01
fabbionebut i want to finish the GFS stuff first03:01
Mithrandirsure03:01
fabbionei miss only the last 6 patchsets to apply,  but they will go in one shot03:03
fabbioneMithrandir: in the meanwhile you could try reverting the patch i gave to you03:07
fabbioneand add your patch to i2o_block.c using the table line in my patch03:07
zulfabbione: for the external-drivers that user want should we just add it to the external drivers list with no status?03:08
fabbionezul: or create another section with them03:09
fabbioneand at least the url where to grab them03:09
zulsure03:09
fabbioneModified files:03:10
fabbioneLog message:03:10
fabbioneops03:10
fabbioneModified files:03:10
fabbionedlm-kernel/src2: lock.c 03:10
fabbioneLog message:03:10
fabbionedon't do useful work in an assert macro03:10
fabbionei wonder what that entry means03:10
zulhttp://zulinux.homlinux.net/arch/zulcss@gmail.com--2005 should be accesible when i do some actual work there03:16
fabbioneoh crap03:49
zulhmm?03:50
fabbionethey moved the acx100 development to sf.net?03:50
fabbione716003:50
fabbionewe do have pre803:50
fabbionebut not + fixes03:50
zulon hoary?03:50
fabbioneon hoary we have pre803:51
zuloops..03:51
fabbioneafaik it's the clean pre803:51
fabbionebut there is another site with +fixes_crap03:51
fabbioneand we don't have that03:51
zulill have a look03:51
zulhttp://rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de/~andi/acx100/ contains the +fixes03:52
fabbioneyeah i can see that03:52
fabbioneok i have finished with GFS on i38603:54
fabbionetime to see if it builds around :)03:54
fabbioneFLY CONCORDIA!04:08
zulwhy not airitalia?04:09
zulheh04:09
fabbionezul: concordia is a machine at the DC04:09
fabbionei can easily compile the kernel in less than hmmm 10 minutes there04:09
fabbionein several flavours04:10
zulbitch..04:10
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zulthats low04:10
fabbioneehhe i know04:11
fabbionebut it's 3/4 days you keep pushing me to say that :P04:11
zulheh..even?04:11
fabbioneyeah04:15
fabbionewebdav error: Could not resolve hostname `zulinux.homlinux.net': Host not found04:17
zulhomelinux.net04:17
zulmy mother is off limits ;)04:18
fabbioneehehe 04:19
zulfrigging alsa04:29
fabbionelamont: can you kick a new kernel build on hppa please?05:09
lamontfabbione: sure05:10
fabbionelamont: big patchset from GFS05:10
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lamontwell, merges, but whatever05:13
fabbionethey are pretty big patches... sorry 05:13
lamontfabbione: is ok.  oo.o2 is already trashing things05:15
lamontwow.  saint thomas and san juan are now considered domestic travel.05:15
fabbionemy poor sparc is still building gcc-405:19
fabbioneit's running the testsuite now05:19
lamonta500 crashed during the build over night...05:21
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fabbionelamont: what kernel?05:21
lamontuh, 2.6.12_2.6.11.90-1 :-)05:24
fabbioneehhe well.. time to bitch willy & Co. to get it fixed05:24
lamont== hppa 2.6.12-rc2-pa1 (on top of ubuntu-of-that-day)05:24
fabbioneyeps...05:25
lamontthe final test I did before committing the hppa patches was to install it and build it.05:25
kylem`fixed'05:25
kylemfirst find the problem. ;-)05:25
lamontpatch 5305:25
lamontmeanwhile, in other news, 6MB of oo.o2 orig.tar.gz left05:25
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fabbionei think we should change our archive layout05:26
fabbioneeach time we move a source between main/universe05:26
fabbioneit's a full resync05:26
fabbionewe should keep the source in a single pool05:26
lamontfabbione: not if you have a smart sync script...;05:27
fabbioneand move only the binaries around05:27
fabbionelamont: yeah ok.. that means comparing the situation before and predicted and than do the real rsync05:27
lamontmind you, I need to add those smarts to mine still05:27
fabbioneof cource it can be done..05:27
lamontfabbione: current state for me is that I have a list of all the files I think are missing... I just need to scour the archive looking for files of the right name to move into place before actually launching the rsync05:28
lamontbut I really need to refactor it so that it (for my megaarchive) just sync's sources one at a time, rather than needing the whole ^)^* archive current before I can upload any more debs05:29
zulshit...baycom_epp.c doesnt build on breezy05:32
lamontfabbione: build running, competing with gcc-4.0 :-)05:36
lamont52Kbyte/sec isn't bad, right? :-)05:37
fabbionelamont: ehhee05:39
fabbionelamont: hey 52K it's good :P05:39
lamontOTOH, it's almost sunday morning on my bw meter05:41
lamont:-)05:41
lamonts/)/(/05:41
fabbionesunday? meaning that you don't have more bw available?05:42
fabbionearen't you flying to LCA tomorrow anyway?05:42
lamontwell, it only matters at the end of the month, but yeah.05:42
lamontno LCA for me05:42
fabbioneoh i was sure you were going05:42
lamontwanted to05:43
lamontcan't afford to take vacation for it though05:43
fabbioneyeah same here :)05:43
fabbionei guess we are going to be the only 2 around here next week05:43
lamonttotal: 1,562,373,11305:43
lamontout of 3.2GB total for the month...05:43
lamontso I generally figure 100MB/day, making this sometime late tomorrow, actually05:44
fabbioneoh crap.. it's 6pm!05:45
fabbionei need to help my wife05:45
fabbionebbl05:45
lamontheh05:45
lamontenjoy05:45
fabbionemv bigtrash street/05:45
fabbionei will explain this later :P05:45
Mithrandirwhat have you broken?05:45
zulmust have lunch05:50
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zulwhat no blog updates fabbione? :)06:48
lamontfabbione: is building kernel #3, fwiw06:49
zulah06:49
T-Nonelamont: where is the sparc archive living, btw? :}06:50
lamontports.ubuntu.com06:50
lamontwell, eventually06:50
T-NoneNXDOMAIN :P06:50
lamontzactly06:50
lamonthppa hoary port will be at ~lamont/ubuntu-hppa sometime real soon too.06:51
T-Noneerrr06:51
T-Noneoh well06:51
T-Nonewhen i'll be tired i'll setup dak on my machines, eventually :P06:52
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lamontsparc hoary has the same problem we do...06:52
T-Nonethen maybe i'll offer hosting space ;] 06:53
=== T-None laughs cynical ;P
fabbionelamont: cook07:09
fabbionecool07:09
fabbionethere is a new inotify patch07:10
lamontgrumble.  on the bright side, the hppa gcc-4.0 build is no longer slowing down the kernel build07:12
fabbionedid the hppa build required any config change?07:13
fabbioneor did it just build?07:13
lamontfabbione: just building (kernl()07:14
fabbionerocking07:15
lamontalthough hppa64-smp still gets a shot at having new questions... :-)07:15
fabbionewell.. not related to GFS i hope07:15
zulfabbione: i take my arch is finally working07:23
fabbionezul: great07:26
fabbionezul: i saw that you started munging gcc-4 problems07:27
zulyeah fixed one on to another07:27
fabbionei think it is good, but we will need to force gcc-3.3 for the beginning07:27
zulill still do the drivers as well07:27
fabbioneand do some internal testing before release with gcc-407:27
zulsure..im running a breezy at work and hoary at home 07:27
fabbioneok good07:27
fabbionei am off to cook dinner07:28
fabbionezul: can you please update the acx100 and the inotify drivers for today?07:28
zulsure07:28
fabbioneso that i have them ready tomorrow?07:28
fabbionejust build on hoary...07:28
zulok07:28
fabbionecya later or tomorrow :)07:28
zultoodles07:29
lamontzul: that's his tomorrow, not ours. :-)07:31
zullamont: duh..07:32
zul:)07:32
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zulkylem: oclug web server down?08:45
lamontfabbione: building debs now, I think that's a 'yes'08:49
lamontdo we expect it to boot as well???08:49
fabbionelamont: yup09:06
fabbionelamont: and you can also use AOE + GFS to share disks now :)09:06
kylemzul, dunno09:15
zullol http://dev.gentoo.org/~lewk/img/vim.gif09:29
fabbioneehehe09:30
dilingernice09:43
lamontzul: lol09:44
zulneat openoffice209:49
fabbionenight guys09:49
zultally ho09:50
zulright im heading home09:52
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cartel_hey all11:35
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cartel_im just now trying to build xen 2.0.5 linux-image for ubuntu11:54
cartel_lets see how we go11:55
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T-Nonei'd say popularity is rising :)12:01

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